What do police forces do when their country is invaded? Are they expected to stay and fight, or do they just follow the civvies in any evacuations and let the armies deal with it?
>>28292923
Not expected to fight in a million years unless they have a contingency like the Basij
Evacuate civilians and help with relief efforts, as well as continuing their normal policing duties.
If the situation necessitated increased security details for VIPs and important facilities, they might also be drafted for that, although it would likely still be the military running things.
I doubt you'd see police officers in actual combat, unless the country was truly on the ropes and every able-bodied man was being sent to the front. Even in a total war scenario with conscription, police officers are unlikely to see combat (discounting reservists who...
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>>28292923
At most you will see them in first response engaging enemies that get too close to the evacuations but other than that the other replies have it.
Hello /k/. I am looking for an affordable .357 revolver that doesn't suck scrotum. I have a budget of up to 450 US dollars, and would prefer something at least somewhat reliable. Please toss me some suggestions. I dislike snub noses.
Lurking this thread for something similar in .38 or .357
Used GP100
>>28292981
get a police trade in Model 10 if you want a .38
Great guns for less than 400 as long as you dont mind holster wear
>>28292893
as for .357
Ruger GP100 of S&W 586 / 686
Im looking at getting one of these 2, leaning towards the 586
I have been thinking, is there any dead historical figures who would have been loved by /k/. Do we have a few historical figures who would be honorary /k/ommandos. I nominate Mad Jack Churchill because he was a total badass.
I wish more people knew about this guy, he was such a genuine person while being more operator than vining
The more I learn about Jack the less I like him
He seemed like a show-off that got his men killed
Lewis B Puller, USMC
Anyone shoot USPSA, IPSC, Steel Challenge? Any and all competition shooting goes here.
Quick question, if a MTF tranny was entered into a 3 gun match, would they shoot women's or men's division? What if they were post hrt and have titties, but still swing a bat?
I feel like they would have to shoot male division and would get a ton of crap, but on the other hand, we do let the French compete.
>>28292524
Your gf a trap?
>>28292524
I shoot IDPA. Want to try USPSA, but there isn't a club near me.
I'm not too familiar with USPSA rules, but I don't think there are gender divisions. I know IDPA doesn't have them. If there are, then at a local low-level match it would probably be up to how tolerant the locals are of being trans. At a big time match, no idea.
>>28292596
Specified 3gun, pretty sure they are male/female divisions.
I guess the best option would be contacting the organization directly, who makes the rules?
>>28292580
No, just wondering
But I like swords. Am I not wanted on /k/?
>>28292426
Nah. Yer cool.
>>28292426
You may be LESS wanted, but /k/ is weapons, not guns. If you're interested in the use of swords, not just the swords themselves, you may want to check the HEMA threads on /asp/ as well.
Fuck off back to whatever shitlord board you came from .
This is /k/, not faggot willy wop sword and shield
Where can i get bulk 7.62x54r online???
buying ammo off the internet is a myth, you cant
>>28292327
I've got a couple thousand rounds I need to sell really quick at like 30 cents a round or so, you interested?
>>28292341
Yes
So we are all in Agreement then?
Seriously, how can you justify having such a long cumbersome efficiently designed rifle when you can have a tactical bullpup?
>>28292276
Ejecting round close to your face is pretty dumb in design. And most of us were trained on non-bullpup rifles so it would seems weird to hold one, let alone shoot one accurately.
>>28292300
The brass in the face can be solved by a brass deflector, which you can buy aftermarket for many bullpups for like, $15. And your obsolete training is not a reason to continue using obsolete technologoy.
I love my bullpups too but...well I'm left handed so that doesn't really work out very well
I'm looking into a cheap optic for an SKS scout build. Can /k/ recommend one?
pistol scopes might be good. I don't know of any off the top of my head but they're usually cheaper than full power scopes. Red dot might be good too
>>28292177
Side mount a PU
>>28292438
Are NC Star optics ok? They're dirt cheap.
hello /k/
Went through the gun stores today and put on a Bersa Thunder 380 on layaway.
What do you guys think about this for a first gun? I liked it because it is close in operation to the beretta 92fs (my first pistol when I joined the military) and it looks like James Bond's gun
But I am not sure if I should switch to a 9mm due to ammo cost of the 380 or if there are any other guns that I should consider. Let me know waht you guys think especially if you guys have had a Bersa thunder or similar compact pistol.
>>28292122
There is nothing wrong with them other than the magazine disconnect. Ditch that shit as soon as you get it home.
If you plan to plink with it you can switch to a 9mm but in my opinion I dont really go plinking with a 380. I practice with it and carry it.
If you want a cheap pistol buy a sd9ve
These are jam o matics from what i hear
>>28292139
I checked out YT and its just a small C spring that needs to be removed to allow that magazine disconnect to work. What would be the advantages of not having a magazine disconnect?
One of the 4 great Gunsmiths of The Apocalypse. You are sorely missed comrade. Use this thread to express gratitude to a great man and his work.
>>28292078
really dont give a shit, a tripfag died boo hoo
>>28292088
>>28292088
You..... need to lurk moar. Jesus.
could someone explain a few things about ammo to a rookie?
so there are douzens of distinct kind of ammo, full metal jacket, hollowpoint, soft nose, various AP cores
how much more effective are hollow points in handgun calibers than AP or jacketed rounds?
it struck me that especially in larger harder hitting calibers, would an AP round not still stop someone dead; why would you give up that penetrative ability?
would it not be dead easy to put a core in a hand loaded round? even if it was not dead on center would it make the round tumble or veer off?
if...
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>if FMJ's tent to feed better, why does anyone use non-jacketed rounds?
>you can even get jacketed hollowpoints, is it just the cost?
It's the round nose of the FMJ that lets it feed better. There's at least one hollow point deisnged like that, Corbon Pow'R Ball, which has a plastic round nose over the hollow point
>>28291997
>why is ammo so damn expensive?
>if companies are price gouging, why don't back yard factories start popping up everywhere?
Same answer for both: Quality control and safety. The cheapeast of the cheap ammo tends to be unreliable and sometimes unsafe due to things like double loaded ammo
Hollow point is preferred over FMJ for human targets because hollow point will fuck your shit up 10x as easy. FMJ also has a small chance to pass right through the target, doing very little damage. I saw a news article where this guy tried to shoot some attackers with that super high-velocity Swiss stuff and it took like thirteen rounds to put down each guy. The rounds just went right through their bodies without expanding and did not damage any internal organs.
So I want to practice remedial action drills with pistols, but I have a problem, none of my pistols malfunction regularly.
I want them to be a suprise, not a set up malfunction I could do with snap caps.
So what gun can I buy for practice that will malfunction a lot? I was thinking things like double feeds, FTE, FTF, just general crap.
Was looking at maybe getting a 1911? Or a taurus?
>Don't suggest SIG, M&P, CZ, Makarov, PPK, or clones of them, those are the ones I can't get to fucking malfunction.
>>28291920
Hi point
Low velocity ammo
/thread
Let your friend load the magazines and tell him to insert the snap caps randomly.
>>28291920
Get a AMT Hardballer
This is mostly theorycrafting since I don't have much experience with material science, let alone ballistic testing. Between reading about naval armor systems, especially those used by the US Navy in WW2 battles and a paper about edge strikes on M2 .30-06 AP (which explains perforated armor).
My intent hear would be to provide Level III protection at a weight of roughly 5 pounds.
The method to defeat penetration would consists of a very hard plate to deform the an incoming projectile as much as possible (like the outboard decapping plate on US battleships),...
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>>28291834
It already exists and it's ceramics.
Also M855 is not steel core.
>>28291976
>ceramics
This thread was intended to be about things that aren't your traditional boron-carbide ceramic plates
>not steel core
Well, whatever you call its steel penetrator section, that was to what I was referring
>>28291834
Why would I want it I can have sk4 30,06 AP ceramic multihit at 3,1kg
Confused....
Hey /k/, what's the worse that could happen from shooting a round or two off in my basement?
What would make a good backstop? Are there any negatives?
Thanks
I had a friend that used to shoot in his bedroom into bundles of magazines.
>>28291918
You mean cokeman?
>>28291828
lead poisoning
Does this make a good intermittent bipod? Ya know, to be used when needed, and taken off when not. For laying down prone shooting out to <100yards
~~~Type yes for yes
~~~and no for no
>>28291704
Blue.
Dammit, I fucked up.
quit smokin that antifreeze anon
The spring is super strong, it holds well. However the local Ace Hardware want $8.99 for the 6" model (it's like the one pictured) I don't think a Harris would be better than having twenty of these bad boys