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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
Do thinkpads have membrane keyboards or scissor switches?
What are some cool add-ons - hardware and software - to a newly refurb x220??
>>54455575
scissor.
>>54455505
A reminder that LED backlight kits exist for CCFL thinkpads:
https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/thinkpad/led-backlight.shtml
2 questions.
1.Can i use 2 SSDs on a X220?
2.What should i tell the seller when i tell him to check if its a TN or IPS panel?
Hi guys, anyone knows why I'm getting these errors after the thinkpad logo at boot time, before grub loads, it lets me boot without problem and if I reboot they don't appear
>>54455854
You've got built-in peripherals conflicting in the PCI BIOS setup. Linux and Windows can both rearrange that on the fly once they boot, so you won't see it again on warm boot.
>>54455846
Yes - You'll need to buy an mSATA ssd and a regular 2.5" 7mm thin SATA SSD.
Not sure what to ask for an IPS though - I bought an x220 tablet one and all tablets have IPS, there's literally not an option for a TN tablet.
>>54455806
I'd love to get a daylight kit for my 14.1" T60 SXGA+ screen. I'll have to contact this guy and see if he'd make me a kit for a T-series. I'm assuming the 12" strip for a X-series wouldn't fit, even if (maybe?) the inverter would.
>>54456058
>I'd love to get a daylight kit for my 14.1" T60 SXGA+ screen. I'll have to contact this guy and see if he'd make me a kit for a T-series. I'm assuming the 12" strip for a X-series wouldn't fit, even if (maybe?) the inverter would.
Neither would fit, but he said he's adding T-series soon.
A little reminder of check you batteries for the Lenovo Battery Recall. you could be lucky as me
>>54455946
literally bought the tablet for the IPS panel. even it has this stupid image retention issue, it kilometers better than the TN on my old X200
>>54456541
>Model M
Very nice.
I want to replace the N-1000 WLAN card on my T520. What exactly does the whitelist allow for? Is it only options that came stock? If not, any recommendations?
Hey /tpg/, do you know if this pen would be fully compatible with my X220t? It looks like it should but idk
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Digitizer-Stylus-Pen-for-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X60T-X61T-X200-X210T-X220T-/400935408034
Is it normal for t420's to have a low "buzzing" fan noise compared to lets say a "whirring" noise?
>>54455846
>2.What should i tell the seller when i tell him to check if its a TN or IPS panel?
Ask him to take a picture from an angle. You will know right away.
Thinkpad-toting slav here.
Got myself a X230 (i5-3320m/4GB/320HDD/TN) a couple of days ago, along with Ultrabase Series 3 for ~$250. I wish it had IPS but can't really complain for the price.
Charging jack is busted (already ordered a spare), but other t an that it's in a very good condtion, 6-cell battery is mint (3% wear), still has a bit of warranty left (expires 06-01-2016). Already installed extra 4GB 1600Mhz, swapped the hard drive with 120GB SSD I had in my old Ideapad, now waiting for power jack. Also thinking of buying 60GB mSATA SSD (just for a OS, trying to keep it cheap) for ~$30 since I have to take it apart to replace power connector anyway.
pic related.
Latitudefag here, I have a free pcie slot in my system, is there anything I can put in there? Also planning on getting a battery slice along with a new battery so putting a GPU in might be viable.
>>54455505
>2016
>not using an x200 with libreboot with fingerless gloves on
>>54455846
ask him to provide machine type model, it's located under the battery, next to serial number.
You can then enter the MTM on lenovo support site and see if it says IPS in model desxription.
>>54456667
allow vendor ids from lelnovo, you know.
>>54456722
it will work perfectly, i had one of these "dubious origin" pen i bought for my x60t and works fine, and yes, it works on my x220t as well (the original pen from the x60t also works fine)
>>54457311
thanks based anon, i'll give it a try
>>54457285
I like the penryn thinkpads be cause they have the old IBM style keyboard buttons and mouse buttons.
T420 or T430?
>>54457484
T430 if you dont mind chiclet, but I hear you can bios mod and swap a T420 keyboard into it. But the T420 is a damn good deal and hangs in there performance wise.
>>54457484
T430 and swap the keyboard for the T420 one.
if you are too lazy for this, just go for the T420.
I have with me a t40 with a Pentium m and a whole 1gb of ram what os you recommend? currently it has widows xp
>>54457503
>>54457517
What's the problem of T430's keyboard?
>>54457542
>What's the problem of T430's keyboard?
Get the T430 then, you clearly won't mind.
>>54457542
see this
>>54457553
>>54457553
>>54457562
The difference between each keyboard is very noticeable? I live in Macau, Thinkpads aren't common here, so i've never tested neither.
>>54457652
>Macau
dude. you literally can cross the bay and find Thinkpads on Hong Kong.
i have to import them from USA
>>54457652
Totally different layout and switch design. T430 feels good but the layout is not on the same level
i'm having kind of an annoying issue on my thinkpad x220
would this be software or hardware related? whenever i wake my x220 from sleep the wifi doesnt work for a while, unless i turn the networking switch on the side on and off. even then, that doesnt work all the time, its really sporadic. it's pretty annoying.
think i just may need a new wifi card?
What OS do you /g/uys have on your ThinkPads?
>>54457688
i have arch on my X60t and i works marvels. everything from thinkpad features to screen rotation works
i had arch on the X220T and it was...terrible. im planning to move to OpenSUSE on it.
>>54457687
Could be all kinds of things, mpice connection, the card, the switch or something deeper. Those wifi cards are cheap so it worth a shit
>>54457735
what's the best card i can get for my x220? there wouldnt happen to be any cool aftermarket AC cards or anything, right heh
>>54457721
oh alright, good to know. i just ordered an x220, thankfully not T because i was planning to try out arch once i get a bit more comfortable with loonigs and I am guessing that this will make it easier to set up.
>>54457662
Well, It isn't so simple, I work and study a lot, can't just look for thinkpads on Hong Kong. I'm struggling just to find a seller.
By the way, where do you live?
>>54457684
Is it easy to change T430's keyboard?
>>54457767
most of my gripes with arch on the X220T are related to the screen rotation, touchscreen and wacom rotation and the mess the KDE team have on that distro.
heres a video of my X60T pimping the autorotation for the wacom screen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfnIFpuPUP4
>>54457795
How the hell do I get my X220t to do that shit on wangblows?
>>54457843
no idea. i guess should be some app to to do that but i cannot be sure.
on linux is achieved by a daemon monitoring HDAPS output, sending Xrand commands to rotate the screen and relying on the wacom app from KDE to auto orient the digitizer .
>>54457867
the thing is. i sort of get the same daemon to workaround the bullshit lelnovo reimplemented on the SMAPI interface, and got the screen to rotate, but then the Wacom app seems to be broken for KDE5 so no luck there.
so in other news, i managed to fry the Audio Device on my X220T. stop working on linux, and now on Windows it also says "Driver Installation Failed: Could not find the device for this driver"
welp, glad i ordered another.
>>54457867
I just tried the APS as some of the lelnovo forums users suggested. Apparently the accelerometer is shit or something because APS+Tablet Shortcut Menu ain't doing dick other than always rotate to portrait when it's folded into a tablet (happens with just Tablet Shortcut Menu).
How long does your battery last on the x220? Do you have the 6c or 9c battery?
Nvidia mobility modder is the best thing ever.
>NVS 160M overclocks to almost 2x stock frequency
>temps stable, battery freq cutoff and speed stepping still works
>45 FPS in Trackmania United PC2 benchmark
vtec just kicked in yo
Noticing that trackpoint.
>tfw waiting for your 9cell in the mail
I bought a thinkpad off ebay. It smells like burnt popcorn. How do I get rid of this smell?
>>54458403
Yo I see you are in universe sandbox. You should check out Space Engine.
>>54458663
>smells like popcorn
>get rid of it
eat it.
>>54458403
Also, fun discovery on the E6400
Holding Fn+Shift and typing "15324", afterwards pressing Fn+R, pops up a BIOS control panel that allows you to adjust fan speed and CPU throttle manually, from any OS, at any time. This works on all E6x00-series machines.
>>54458667
Space Engine doesn't allow me to blow up South America with the Moon.
>>54458700
burnt popcorn. It doesnt smell nice. kind of like burnt out capacitors. It works fine tho
>>54458702
Very cool, you've been finding more about these things than I have in a year and a half of using them.
>>54458722
alright, if that's what you're looking to do.
>>54458776
Yeah, I get autistic with the research when I get a new machine. I want to know everything about it. All this week at work, I couldn't wait to get home and do something with it.
Luckily, the 6400s were popular enough that there's some good info out there.
>>54455806
Which kit should one use for those QXGA panels? And where such panel can be found?
>>54458841
It only takes about 300,000 years for the crust to stop glowing and the plants and atmosphere to come back.
>>54458963
Oh nice so humanity finally died. Maybe now nature can develop organisms that aren't ignorant idiots that contribute nothing to the planet.
Could I use a x220t as a drawing tablet with photoshop?
Anyone with one have anything to say on this?
I never used a drawing tablet before, so I can't imagine the 256 pressure compared to something much higher.
Not sure what questions to ask. Glad the thing's fairly cheap on ebay.
How is the 1900x600 Intel HD Display compared to the 1366x768? What are the reasons for choosing one over the other? Can the former play 720p HD video content?
Which of these the better deal?
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-laptops/kitchener-waterloo/lenovo-thinkpad-t420-intel-i5-8gb-ram-in-mint-condition/1162732650?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
>1900x600
>8GB RAM
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/LENOVO-ThinkPad-T420-Lenovo-ThinkPad-Docking-Station-Type-4337-AS-IS-/291738172163?hash=item43ecf33b03:g:OnIAAOSwGYVW9DXD
>1366x768
>4GB RAM
>no battery
I'm going to be using this primarily for browsing the web and watching video. Does the amount of RAM matter for that?
What's the point of the clit mouse?
I run a t420 with xubuntu and never find any need for the little guy.
When do you guys find yourselves using it?
>>54459218
A T420 is gonna handle 720/1080p playback no matter what, it's a total beast, and the 900p display will give you more screen real estate. 4GB of ram is enough to get by for your needs, but I'd suggest upgrading to 8GB, that's the sweet spot.
>>54459276
The resolution of the first one is listed as 1900x600, which I've never seen before. Is this an error?
Is the t530 just a bigger t430? Did I get memed?
>>54459315
Not an error
>>54459346
>Pale Moon
ma brotha
>>54459315
It's an error, the screen res is 1600x900 on the high end one.
>>54459346 is a joker.
>>54458412
That UBARUCHANG :-DDDDdddds
Guys, what is a reasonable price for an i7 thinkpad x220, with IPS? Im in the Netherlands and I am really hesitated to sell my ASUS 15.6" craptop (one year, want at least 550€ for it) old and buy a 12.5" thinkpad.
Hi /tpg/ so I asked for this
>>54459150
and was redirected here for advice.
Is there any?
Guys I think I just saw one of you in my class.
The guy sat next to me, was skeleton mode, long messy hair, shitty long neckbeard, glasses, and an ancient thinkpad with linux running on it.
>>54458403
Link please?
>>54456058
I bought my LED upgrade kit from www.iccfl.com
Note that you should follow https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/thinkpad/led-panel.shtml guide and just cut CCFL cable, or you will end up dirty result when disassembling whole LCD screen to get light going correct place.
So this ain't "clean way" to do it, even you were able to remove CCFL without cutting anything.
>>54460444
Example of failed installation, note how top part is much dimmer.
>>54460459
Of course I was able to get it working, with fingerprints on panel. So at least remember to use gloves.
Getting a T420 for ocasional shitposting, recreative programming, web browsing and movies.
Would putting a SSD on it a waste of money?
There is a T510 that is cheaper than the T420 I'm looking at. Is there any reason to choose one over the other?
I was thinking of buying a t420 for school since I'm going to be starting in august.
I've heard a lot of people complaining about the screen, but I'm only going to be using it for web browsing and word processing, so viewing angles/color accuracy isn't very important to me.
Is the t420 a good deal for like $220?
>>54461259
If it's the 1600x900 screen then sure
>>54461328
What's wrong with 1366 x 768?
All my laptops have been 1920 x 1080 so I've never really used any other resolutions, but like I said I don't need a pretty display since I'm not going to be watching or playing anything on it.
>>54461355
1366x768 is pretty cramped for a 14-inch screen. It's not terrible, but why would you limit yourself like that? Even if you're just doing word processing and web browsing, it's good to have that extra screen real estate. It's about as small as you can get while still being able to use two windows side by side.
>>54461355
The extra work space is worth it, otherwise grab a small laptop that manages 700
The Acer Aspire E1 I was using before it stopped working had a 15.6" monitor. The Thinkpad I'm looking at has a 14.1" monitor. Am I going to miss extra 1.5" if I get it? Is it worth getting a 15" thinkpad?
>>54461381
>>54461410
Alright guys, I found one with 1600 x 900 resolution for less money.
Thanks for the advice.
How is the battery life on a t420 and is there a significant difference in battery between windows and linux?
>>54461355
Text is rendered better at higher resolutions
OR
you can have smaller fontsizes while still being readable
Crucial for programming.
Other than the ssd ive already installed, are their any upgrades i can make to my x200 (non-tablet)
>>54461615
Depending on what you use it for
>>54461316
>>54461615
Killing yourself is a good upgrade.
>>54461653
Shitposting and ftl:faster than light
>>54461712
Overkill, then.
>>54461615
IPS panel.
>>54457291
Thank you.
>>54457220
install linux
I recommend mint Xfce (easy to use if you're used to winblows) but it's best to look around for yourself
What's the best upgrade for a X61t
>>54460444
>>54460459
>>54460485
Thanks for the tips, anon.
Is x201 as good as t420 and x220?
Anything reason why it's not recommended aside from lack of ips panel(unlike x220)?
Is this a good deal for a T510?
$290 Canadian and 4GB of RAM
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?requestSource=b&adId=1160926123
>>54462145
I just got a t530 for 200 Ameridollars including shipping.
>>54462263
Well aren't you lucky.
>>54462296
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-T530-i5-2-5GHZ-4GB-RAM-500GB-HD-Webcam-USB-3-0-Laptop-/301948821887?nav=SEARCH
Desu
>>54457688
Arch on my t420
>>54462387
What's the screen size on that? I've decided I need at least 15.6 inches.
>>54462426
Lucky guy. It is 15.6".
>>54462387
Is it heavy to carry around?
>>54462438
So that would cost me $357 Canadian right now. Probably worth it for all those inches. ;^)
>>54462483
I forgot Trudeau bombed your currency. I'm sorry leaffriend.
>>54462454
I don't think so. I think its around 2.5 kg.
Anyone here with a T460? How good/bad is the screen?
Should I pay a bit more and go with a Latitude E7470 instead?
I can't decide
How long does your 9c battery last you on an x220? More than 6 hours of use?
Just got done putting a 250GB 850 EVO in my x220's mSATA slot... and just realised its probably mSATA II only?
Am I wasting my SSD here? q__q
>>54462861
yeap it's SATA 2 for the mSATA slot :(
Is this a genuine Toshiba fan?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CPU-Cooling-Fan-Heatsink-for-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X200-X201-X201i-Toshiba-product-FA-/400957280798?hash=item5d5aea921e:g:NOMAAOSwpDdVOgEt
>>54462861
I went from a 2.5" SATA3 Evo 850 to a mSATA (SATA2) Evo 850 in my x230 and I couldn't tell a difference. It's fast enough if you're not doing heavy disk I/O tasks. Plus it frees up the 2.5" drive slot for a big spinning rust storage drive.
If you do a lot of disk-resource-intensive tasks, yeah you may have fucked up.
What's a good lightweight thinkpad that I can currently get with good specs?
>>54462990
x220
>>54463016
What's battery life like on the x220? I am thinking about getting the 9c one.
Accidentally popped a key off my T410's keyboard and now it's loose. Can't tell if I broke something or just didn't put it in back properly. Any way to tell for sure?
What symptoms would indicate if the inverter on an X60 tablet was bad? My indicator LEDs stopped working and I know that this means the LCD cable is bad. Problem is I replaced it and the LEDs are still out. Display and backlight work fine though.
>>54463230
Pop it back off. See if any of the clips are broken.
Could be one of them is, or it just got loosened/weakened by you initially popping the key off. At any rate, a tiny dab of superglue on the clip(s), properly snapping it back down, and letting it dry will alleviate the problem.
Dual channel memory in mobile devices is a MEME.
>most so-dimm ddr3l memory sticks uses 1,5W-2W of power, which is equal to a hard disk
If you care about battery life NEVER use more than one memory stick. It's gonna rape your battery life.
Props for Lelnovo for limiting memory sticks to a single one in x250/x260 models.
>>54455505
Thanks for x220, I spilled a cup of water last night on top of it.
This morning after putting it in reverse V shape upside down it works like a charm ;^)
Just ordered myself a refurbished x220 with an ssd
I'm kinda hype.
>>54463930
Just ordered myself a used refurbished x220 and a new SSD.
I'm super hyped.
Just picked up a T420 with 8 niggabytes of RAM for $170. Good deal or no?
>>54464072
If it has the 900p yeah. I got mine for 175 and it has everything.
>Nehalem temps.
>>54463930
>>54464029
You should probably order an IPS panel right away, you'll want one.
>>54464220
Holy fuck anon I pray for your survival, don't forget your sunscreen.
/Tpd/, why should I get a 460 (or x220) over the latest Zbook? What does it have to offer that the sleek, metal frame of a Zbook doesn't? I'm getting a new laptop for my next year and Uni so I'm going to be taking it with me to classes every day.
Was funny today. My brother came over and saw my 2 thinkpads. And asked about them. he worked at a shipping store. he said " I have shipped a ton of these things out and they seem to always have good insurance" that feel when someone actually says something /g/ related I guess
>>54464492
>/Tpd/
ThinkPad Deneral?
>>54463816
>Lelnoveo cheaped out and gave me one DIMM, and now I'm defending it.
>>54463816
Props also for Lenovo for removing removable battery from x260.
>>54464949
:DDDD
which thinkpad is best for gayms?
pls respond
>>54463816
>never use more than one memory stick
Enjoy your reduced graphics performance.
Actually, having a dual channel setup improves the iGPU up to 30%.
>>54465452
Lelnovo ChinkPet xXx420
>>54464492
whatever is cheapest
>>54465127
looks pretty removable to me
I have a T60 with the HD IPS panel, love it. But theres a very faint white spot on the center and I'm autistic/too poor to replace it. I was offered a trade for a T410S in near mint. What do?
>>54465553
do.
>>54465553
>go back to tn 1440x900 dog shit
My last hope for getting some response out of my X301. After cleaning it one day I started getting beep codes and no response from the keyboard, only the power button worked. Hopefully a new keyboard will fix it.
anyone here tried using the m.2 slot in a w540/t540 or t541/w541 with a normal 42mm SSD? i found a 120GB intel 1500 series that fits and is recognized in the BIOS, but it acts really loopy. windows sees it but thinks it's readonly, linux seems to have no issue with it.
>>54463816
is x250 model much better to game in than a t420 with crap nvdia?
>>54465452
Lenovo Ideapad Y700
It's also not a thinkpad.
>>54465553
Just live with it.
>>54465658
Do you actually use the X301 or T420 more? I have both (plus an X220) and I might be retarded but most of the time I still use the X301 even though it's way less powerful than the others.
>>54465755
Pretty tempting. The T410s is better overall, but God the old IPS ThinkPads are other worldly
>>54465722
neato, thanks.
>>54465768
Well my X301 has been busted for a solid 4 months so I use my T420 more. Plus I have Fedora 23 on the T420 and its just a better experience for coding and web browsing with the faster processor, and 8gb ram in comparison to the 3 in the X301 (with Xubuntu). I do love how light the X301 is but the battery life is significantly worse.
>>54465846
That's what I'm saying. If you're not bottlenecked by the T60's performance (or RAM) you're better off keeping what you've got. I don't even think the battery life is going to be better on the T410s.
Any idea where to get a Japanese keyboard for my X220t? eBay doesn't seem to have a single one. The ones available for my T530 are also horribly expensive.
>>54465965
Its actually noticeably better, but it's also a bottom-on battery that can't be expanded, which makes it feel like less of a ThinkPad to me
>>54465452
What do you play? Source games? Older stuff? Do you want a machine to play Crysis on high just to show off or do you actually want to get real gaming done?
Latitude E6400 w/ Quadro NVS 160m and NMM-modded driver. The hardware is based on the 8600m GT but with a slower memory clock. With NMM and Nvidia System tools you can overclock the shit out of it and run most anything at low/medium, though older stuff (HL2, etc) will usually run great on medium/high. The cooling system is literal wizardry and is perfectly fine running the GPU at 700-800 MHz (stock clock is 400). Just replace the trackpoint tip with a red one and pretend it doesn't say Dell on it.
>>54466002
Huh. Wouldn't have expected it, since it's still a C2D and only 3900mAh.
Best thing about C2Ds in general though is you can undervolt the shit out of them with PHC or RMClock.
>>54466072
>>54466072
Disregard, I suck cocks. T410s is first gen core-i series.
>>54466048
I'm not really a graphics whore and the laptop I'm using now (Toshiba Satellite P50 B) can run most new games if I set the graphics to medium or low (currently playing Battlefield 4 on lowest graphics and GTA on high)
I'm pretty much just looking for a laptop that will be able to play Hitman when it's finished and Batllefield 1 when its out even if I have to set the graphics to medium or low
>>54466088
The battery and processor kick ass, but it really just feels like an Apple ThinkPad next to the old T60. Maybe I'm just an oldfag
>>54466184
Look for something that's not a Thinkpad.
>>54466213
nothing wrong with being old fashioned, anon
>>54466048
The BVS 160 is more like a 9300m, hence why it's so good, the NVS 140 is the one like the 8600m, which is why it is known to be so unreliable in thinkpads and latitudes it came in.
>>54466419
>BVS 160
NVS 160*
>>54466217
noted
Any news or links on the gook made Browdwell motherboard that was supposed to start selling for around 400USD for the X60/X61? I have only seen a few units on shitbay for around 3000USD each
Picture unrelated
is there any driver packs for t420 it seems lot to install
Does anyone know how to fix the thinklight and capslock icons from popping up from sleep? I already tried downloading the hotkeys update from the website. I have a t430s if that matters.
>>54466537
I'm still waiting for that T61 board to become reasonably priced...
>buy x220
>swap out cum stained keyboard
>swap out HDD for SSD
>swap out battery
>add IPS monitor
At that price I can buy a used Macbook Air that can be easily resold. Why bother with the x220?
I'm not even trolling. While the air will neither have replaceable ram nor as strong of a CPU, they all come with SSDs and amazing (swappable) batteries. And they're half as wide.
Where am I going wrong in my thinking /tpg/?
>>54467178
The air will break if you sit on it and daily use causes it to disintegrate.
>>54467195
>daily use causes it to disintegrate
I've been using a unibody macbook since late 2008 and this hasn't happened yet.
>air will break if you sit on it
Is this all you've got?
>>54467213
Without spouting memes? yeah. I dont know much or care to know much about macs. If you want to get a mac then do so, just dont expect /tpg/ to like it.
>>54466537
>>54466900
This sounds fucking awesome, I hope they make more
>>54467178
>mac
>>>/hm/
>>>/fa/
>>>/lgbt/
This thread is for business class hardware.
>>54467241
Fair enough
>While the air will neither have replaceable ram nor as strong of a CPU
that's your reason.
i literally cant understand your reasoning, the macbook air is half as thick would be the only reason for you to pick it over the thinkpad then
in that case, the thinkpad is better because its more durable.
>drop macbook air
>dents the unibody
>its a fucking unibody so you cant replace it, gotta replace the entire thing but you're out of money so you gotta live with the dent forever
>drop thinkpad
>palmrest chips
>but $20 palmrest from ebay
>easily replace it, have mint thinkpad again
Got this T400 for $58 including shipping. How did I do?
>>54467482
Not bad for $58, it's integrated graphics and a 25w P series CPU, will make a good low power using laptop.
>>54457542
The productivity shortcuts are wierd and the layout kinda sux, if you dont mind that and the other type of keys go for t430
>>54455505
it sucks not having any cash reserves built up. if I had the money to spend right now, I could a two thousand buck thinkpad for around two hundred bucks. but since it does me no good, I"ll share it with you guys, maybe someone wants one or two
well shit, never mind, looked it up and it's already out of stock
>>54467577
Wtf even is this post?
>>54457688
Win7/Fatdog64 dual boot.
>>54459342
T530 is a large t430 yes, memed? I dunno. What were you looking for?
>>54467586
it's me bitching about being poor and having no savings to buy sweet shit when I find it at a good price
>>54467619
I see, we're relegated to $200 chinkpad refurbs as well, welcome to the club.
>>54467639
no, if I'd had two hundred to spend I could have gotten a two thousand dollar i7 thinkpad with 8gigs of ram and a tablet/stylus mode. I love refurbished shit
I bought this, did I do good /g/?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262417187176
>>54467674
Good job
>>54467674
Damn good deal, the QM proc and 12GB are a pricey piece.
>>54466765
Guess i'll do a clean install. The damn 'usb plug in' sound when waking it up is driving me nuts
>>54467712
>not loving the beeps
I need a modern chinkpad and I've narrowed it down to 2 models.
>X1C4
>T460
I'm leaning towards the X1 because the screen is better but I'm hesitant on buying a machine with soldered RAM and a non-replacable battery. What would you guys cop?
>>54467761
T460 man, you've got to.
Excuse my ignorance, but why are Thinkpads so popular on /g/? is it just some meme that was taken too far or are thinkpads better than other laptops, and if they are, what makes them so good?
>>54467761
Go with the T460p man, you'll get better value at the cost of .13 of an inch thicker than the T460. If you're dead set on just those 2 models though, I'd go with the T460 because it's more modular and serviceable. X1carbon is nice and sleek though, and it'd be cool to have one of the flagship x series Thinkpads.
What was the smallest thinkpad made?
s30? x40? something else?
>>54467844
look at the op post for 15 seconds before you hit submit
>>54467844
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/landingpage/why-choose-thinkpad/
>The latest ThinkPads are further optimized for Windows 8 - with convenient multimedia buttons
WINDOWS 8 ANON, WE IN THE FUTURE
>>54467844
Build quality, Linux support, reliability, innovation, etc..
I'm about to say some stupid shit.
Are any parts for lenovo g series laptops compatible with lenovo thinkpads? I'm wondering if I can just drop the hardware from my lenovo g510 into a thinkpad case. because the g series laptops have absolute shit build quality.
>>54467844
good specs, good build quality, professional looking, and can be had dirt cheap used/refurbished
>>54467844
niggers won't steal them
>>54467888
not sure, but if all else fails you could head on over to /diy/ and make yourself a wood case to drop your guts into
>>54467844
They're cheap and well built. Replacement parts are also very easy to find, making them very serviceable.
>>54467888
RAM and storage are givens. You should be able to swap the processor if it's going into a Thinkpad of the same CPU generation and the one in your G series isn't soldered. That's about it.
>>54467844
Why carry a self-defense weapon and a laptop when you can have both in one device?
I'm having a problem with my wifi adapter: When I first start up the computer, it works great. After a suspend, the wifi no longer works at all until next restart. Laptop: Lenovo Thinkpad X220 Wireless card: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1000 OS: Ubuntu 16.04
>>54467981
kek
>>54467981
HAH
>>54467904
underrated post
>>54468059
Driver?
Did the batter recall on both of my batteries (a 6cell and a 9cell).
The 6cell originating in europe took about a week to arrive, but havnt heard anything about the 9cell yet (probably originating in the us, as it was shipped there from ebay.) q__q Its been 3 weeks now.
>>54468241
I found out my X220 was eligible, while my T530 wasn't. At least I get 1 new battery..
>>54468241
Battery recall?
>>54468216
I downloaded one from their website and followed a guide, but it didn't seem like it made a difference
>>54468425
A buddy of mine recently bought a x220t and a driver install/update fixed wifi issues for him.
ey steve, you lurkin? Help this anon out.
>>54468425
>>54468216
>>54468059
Okay I found a fix. I installed this guy's bash script: http://askubuntu.com/questions/761180/wifi-doesnt-work-after-suspend-after-16-04-upgrade
Basically adds a systemd service to restart the network manager every time I reopen my laptop lid. I guess it's a little jenky but it works.
>>54467844
price to performance ratio
>>54468534
This. Even th 2520m you commonly see is a monster, it's faster than a 2006 mac pro, yes that a 5 year older workstation, but still, beastly.
>>54461615
flash libreboot and make stallman proud
I convinced my sister to get a T430 and she's installed Ubuntu on it!
>>54456541
man $50 for kb on ebay?
fuckkk i used to see them suckers on side of the road an din thrift stores. what a bad feel
>>54457285
What OS is that? don't look like any DE's that i recall.Unless kde or somethin
Will a X200 (7459-FHU) handle 8G of RAM? Didn't see that specific model number on the thinkwiki unofficial memory page, hoping it might support it.
>>54470528
Yes, wouldn't really recommend more than 4GB on an old Penryn unless it's the only thing you want to use forever.
>>54470581
For the **00 generation it's fine since they're DDR3, 8GB is like $30.
>>54470627
>$30
Holy shit, do it then.
>>54470627
>>54470669
ffs, there's one for $26
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YG8X9Y/ref=twister_B00H8JVIKM
>>54470712
You won't be able to use that in an X200, though. 8GB is the maximum total, but I'm pretty sure each slot will only take up to 4GB individually.
>>54470723
ah, well there's the 2x4G for $30 so i guess that's about right.
>>54470581
>>54470627
Thanks. Going to order 2x4G then.
Tired of FF causing me to run out of memory when browsing imageboards...
My current daily driver for school is an X220t which is great for taking notes. Its not great on screen real estate though so I'm thinking of picking up a tablet to supplement it for referencing documents while working on projects and such. I would just get a portable external display but all the tablet sized ones I've come across are the same price or more than just buying a tablet.
tl;dr: Is a ThinkPad Tablet 2 worth $150 to $200 or are there better options in/under that price range? Does anyone have one?
>>54459080
I personally have used mine for drawing in a few different programs, Photoshop included, and as someone with no former experience with drawing tablets, I like it quite a bit and found that the pressure sensitivity worked really well. I generally use it as a tablet for taking notes/casual drawing in OneNote which natively supports Wacom pressure sensitivity as line thickness.
>>54470920
Consider a chinese market one (such as a chuwi Hi10). Better screen resolution and more ram for around the same price.
This guy seems to do alright reviews. http://techtablets.com/
>>54462145
okay, how much should I offer?
what questions should I ask? this guy obviously has no clue. I think it might be stolen
>>54471050
I wouldn't even bother. Go for an X220 instead.
>>54471050
God anon, get a T or X 20 series. chromebooks are cool, but not at over $600/
>>54471050
Anyone who puts over inflated prices of new units in a sale post always expects too much.
I wouldn't even bother making an offer.
>>54470973
I see these and xiaomi phones promoted a lot in /csg/ and my main concern is battery safety. Has anyone gone in and done any testing on these things?
>>54456659
looks like an SSK too
>>54469923
Very nice anon
Now be her tech support
Hopefully she will move to ubuntu MATE or Mint.
Maybe eOS if she doesn't mind its retarded windows controls.
>>54467761
?
The battery was replaceable on the X1C3...
Personally I didn't like 4K display on the X1C3, everything was too small, it was too much. I was happy with the 'sub 3K' panel thats on the ChromeBook Pixel.
>>54467674
Very nice anon, I sold one of those for $520 a few months back, well worth it.
>>54457688
Mint on T430s - my main
W10 on X61T because it busted some command line out of nowhere when booting W7.
W10 on W530, W7 on secondary drive...
Lubuntu on T60p
Not sure on X300, was running netrunner.
W2000 on T22.
>>54457538
Been awhile since I had my retro machines running...
I used CruncBang before it ceased existance on a T30 and A31p.
I forget what release of eOS I had but it worked good on the T43p.
Not sure if you have to deal with the force PAE bullshit on those models.
>>54457542
Different keyboard layout, backlit keyboard feels... not as robust.
I've gotten used to it
>>54457688
I dual boot
ElementaryOS/Windows7
What OS does /g/ recommend for my R60? Currently running Mint, and it works, but I'm a little bored with it. Mostly something to get my computer to run faster and be bare bones would be ideal, since this is my daily commuter laptop. Only needs a text editor and internet.
>>54455789
Most popular is adding USB 3.0 with the use of the expresscard slot.
>>54471050
Don't even bother.
Nothing being said about its condition, the fucker searched "X131e" and you have no fucking idea if its bios locked, computrac'd or whatever CPU it has.
Bust out a screwdriver and check out the RAM and HDD, base your price off of that.
I personally wouldn't pay more than $60 for that thing but even so I wouldn't be happy with it.
They are worth from $100 fully working to 150, afterwards, you're not using logic with buying.
Its not a bad machine, but I personally like the Yoga 11e more as its a way better machine for its price/hardware
>>54471544
What processor do you have?
I had a T60p with 3GB RAM, 2GHz T2500 CPU, ATI V5200 and 160GB 7200RPM HDD. It ran Windows 7 like a fucking champ, even gamed league on it. Course it had some arctic silver.
>>54471602
I believe it is running on the Intel Core Duo 1.66 GHZ model. It was a bargain bin laptop I want to turn into a sleeper.
Is there another hotkeys driver out there? The lenovo one is giving me problems.
>>54471501
Yeah and I don't mind being tech support.
So since coreboot has been ported to the T420 as of April, is it worth it to install? I've never done anything with the bios of a computer and was wondering what the process is and what the risks are.
>>54471501
Crunchbang Plus Plus (#!++) and BunsenLabs exist with Jessie+ packages
I'm running a modified #!++ on my x230 with sid updates and desktop with default Jessie stable right now. Prericed, easy-to-use Debian+Openbox lives on.
>>54471544
>>54471602
I played HL2 on a T60p but I'm sterile now.
>>54471733
Thats good anon.
>>54471624
Damn... thats harsh.
You'll def need an upgrade.
Do you have the 15" 4:3 R60? The frame of the laptop is phsyically different and I couldn't put a T60 heat sink fan into it when I tried to mobo swap it... and the motherboard didn't fit either, special frame for that bastard.
Good luck anon, you'd be surprised the price of Core Duo (and compatible core 2 duo) processors you could get.
>>54471778
I knew about BunsenLabs but not about #!++
That sounds pretty damn neat anon.
>>54471694
Which laptop and what OS?
I've had problems with trackpoint drivers before... had to use drivers for another system and OS i believe...
>>54460742
An SSD is never a waste of money. Just get a 240 GB crucial for like $70
