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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
T60 is aesthetic as fuck
I'm looking for a computer that I can put inside my bag, do photo editing and travel with. if I can fit a second disk drive that'd be perfect. I know everyone recommends the t420 but saw the t520 was posted in the last thread. with the quad core and nvidia graphics card it looks like the better buy but isn't a quad core laptop prone to overheating?
link: http://m.ebay.com/itm/231939025791?_mwBanner=1
How are the temperatures on the x220?
>>54475437
It would literally be perfect if they removed the trackpad
>>54475655
Senpai mine are crazy, you the same guy in the last thread?
74 C CPU
75 C Mobo
Buying new fan asap/reapplying thermal paste
BTW, would reapplying the paste make the fan less crazy? (If the past was especially old?)
>>54475655
Mine aren't too bad. I don't have any numbers because I don't really care that much.
It's not even that loud at full load.
>>54475667
Try reapplying the paste before buying a fan. If the fan is working, I find it had to believe that is the problem.
If the paste has hardened, it will be making a negative effect on the thermals. It can make a real difference. Not fuss about what paste to buy though, if it's fresh it's fine.
>>54475548
They don't sell for that much more than the t420 because it's not as good of a laptop. (They're not a meme)
That makes them a good buy if you don't care. The thermals should be okay.
>>54475691
Yeah I have some left over form a CM Hyper 212, so I'll just use that tomorrow.
>>54475663
so X61
Literally the perfect small laptop.
>>54475437
T60 Porn
http://imgur.com/a/T3Rr4
>>54475428
what fuse number is used on t420's back light,also if possible a general idea where it is located
>>54475667
Is that full load or normal?
>>54475655
50 idle, 85-90 on 100% load.
x220 and an SP550 240GB SSD to go in it are both out for delivery today.
Come on Fedex i've been waiting for 5 days already. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
What to look for when buying a used x220t?
>>54475667
>>54475691
This is what my factory-applied x230 paste looked like. It was like old chewing gum hard, too. Idle is about 48-50C after reapplying. I think the x220 runs a little warmer.
>>54478019
>x230
My repasted T430 idles at 43C so 48C for a X230 is OK.
x220 or t420? discuss
>>54478427
Depends entirely on your use case. Try again.
>>54478427
The T410 is a pro machine, the X220 is a light machine. If you're a casual user when traveling or just enjoy taking a PC with you, I would go for an X220. If you don't have a robust main machine: T410
>>54478427
An X is better than a T if you are actually using your ThinkPad as a mobile device.
Using my T61 at work while I fix the indicator LEDs on my X60 and holy christ this is way too big and heavy for what I need it for.
Is there a better alternative to the X220 with an HDMI port than the Dell e6220? I heard the X220's DP doesn't output audio.
>>54478516
Using it for college. Would need to use Eclipse, so I'm afraid the X220 would be to small for working. But it has an IPS panel, though.
>>54475428
my X201t adapter is making whirring noises when charging. Is it a bad sign?
>>54478685
x220 with docking port and external monitor/peripherals would be perfect. You get portability for carrying around everywhere and that big production display and ergonomic interfaces for serious work.
Docking port makes it easy to leave your "workstation" in place at your dorm/apartment and pop it off when it's time to go.
>>54478788
yes, but I already have a main desktop. I guess the x220 would be a better fit. but i'm kinda worried about overheating issues. small laptops tend to me more "hot".
So in the ebay description for a T61 I wanna buy, it lists "administrator password" as a security feature. This means I should avoid it right? Cause I won't be able to boot it?
>>54477972
Well the X220 just showed up.
No sign of the SSDs though. Guess another Fedex truck will be by later.
>>54475704
alright, a t420 it is. thanks friend
Hey guys, what's best, a common laptop or a business one?
>>54478997
Do you know where you are?
>>54475428
i dun goof
bought a t420 160gb ssd from newegg thinking it would be a msata
now just waiting for it to arrive to return it
90 minutes until i maybe have a t420 in the bag
god damn i hate bidding on stuff, i just know some dipshit is going to outbid me when it's four seconds left
>>54479823
lrn2snipe
>>54479823
just get the manufacturer refurbished from geekdeal?
Any news or links about the supposed ~400USD Broadwell gookmade X60/X61 motherboard?
I have only seen a couple sell on shitbay as a full laptop unit for about 3000USD
Quick search doesn't return much
Picture unrelated
>>54478427
They're different laptops designed for different things, retard
>>54478672
X230 at least will output audio with just a passive mini-DP -> HDMI adapter.
>>54478672
>>54480324
I've only tried the X220 with a DP to HDMI adapter and it outputs audio just fine
>>54475655
my sisters x220 was running at 95 C even at idle, pulled it apart and there was a fucking stupid amount of thermal paste all over the die and about 5mm all around it to, reapplied that and now its all good, peaks at around mid 60s at worst.
hey guys got my t530 in the mail and setting things up
what games do you guys play on your thinkpads? let me know i have ftl
>>54480909
I've lost many hours to Skyrim, SuperPower 2, and Civ on my ThinkPads
holy crapper i didn't get sniped i'm so surprised
>>54479888
i'm in yuroples and don't want none of that shipping nonsense
>>54480909
Medieval 2 Total War
Ordered my x260, it's arriving on friday. I can't wait to have a decent laptop. The battery life is why I went for it.
>>54480909
since im a cheap ass i torrented FTL and im having some problems. So im using linux and I can play it and everything but to open the game everytime i have to run the script in the terminal. im new to linux and have no idea but is there a way to make it like a .exe or soemthing similar?
What are /g/s thoughts on a Dell Latitude E6410 for 45 quid ($65)? has i7 620m, 4gb of ram and 150gb hard drive but busted screen and missing key.
>>54481415
A E S T H E T I C
>>54482066
I'm a huge rossmann when it comes to the old keyboard design, but that 260 looks freakin cool.
>>54482066
>gookovo
I don't think so
Why are Thinkpads so comfy?
>>54482089
Louis Rossmann
his is this /g/ embodied tbqh
>>54482125
I think it's the little curved part at the front of the palmrest, you could sit at it and type forever.
Gonna pick up up a x220t tomorrow, how good is the wacom screen compared to stand alone drawing tablets?
>>54482089
Rossman is bossman. The classics are always better, but thank God Lenovo didn't join the MacBook-look-alike circle jerk with the new ThinkPads
>>54482128
No he isn't.
We are nothing alike.
Louis actually knows his shit.
>>54480909
FTL and Brutal Doom are all I play really.
>>54475428
>PC broke
>Now only PC i have it t400
man I'm glad I fell for this meymey.
>>54478019
it looks pretty decent, what is your problem with application of the paste?
>>54482066
>tfw 4.6 might still not solve battery issues
>tfw might have to continue to deal with 2 hr battery life x220
>>54482125
old good keyboard
they have some weight to them so it's comfortable to interface with unlike the cheap flimsy consumer garbage
signature aesthetic without any flashy or obnoxious design choices
Basically everything that Chinkovo decided to fuck up
>>54482203
>he MacBook-look-alike circle jerk with the new ThinkPads
they did
Just because they still preserved their ports doesn't mean they didn't decided to chase the slim meem and jump on the cheap chicklet island keyboard bandwagon
Just look at that abortion with a Thinkpad logo slapped onto it. Gookovo has no shame.
>>54481907
sorry m8
Poorfag here, what's the best Thinkpad I can buy for 50 dollars or less?
>>54482313
>Implying anything other than T & X are real ThinkPads
Lenovo doesn't shit the bed with T and X, but they still make me nervous. Same with their Motorola direction.
>>54482205
I got a good laugh out of him finally being the guy that calls Linus out on his 'throw muh boards in the oven" shit
>>54482343
T61 or earlier, I'd recommend getting at least a T400.
>>54482343
T60, X200 or maybe a T400.
>>54482343
The IBM T60 hovers between $50 and $70 on eBay auctions, probably the best classic ThinkPad too
>>54475428
I'm currently using an 128GB Crucial M550 (mSATA) with 500 GB HGST 5400RPM HDD set-up.
Would shelling out money for a 920GB Crucial BX200 or 920GB SanDisk Ultra II to replace both be worth it?
>>54482395
If you've got the dough, get the the drives you mentioned, sandisk and crucial are really good.
>>54482395
Forgot to mention: the mobo is a Thinkpad X220.
>some guy selling x200 with libreboot for 450 eurodollars
sounds like a reeaal good deal
>>54482395
if you have the money, why not? everything will be faster now and you wont have to deal with the hassle of constantly switching between both drives mate.
>>54482359
>Lenovo doesn't shit the bed with T and X
I agree, it doesn't completely shit the bed but it's getting close. All they had to do was continue the same fucking formula IBM had with newer hardware iterations and making minor tweaks like good screens. Not every line of technology needs to be adjusted to consumer trends.
>>54482407
>>54482416
Out of the SanDisk Ultra II and the Crucial BX200, which one would you recommend?
>>54482229
Surely you jest. It doesn't look like it covered the whole die and there was 3x more than was required.
>>54482449
>Lenovo will never release a ThinkPad this comfy
Feels bad, man
>>54482493
I use a Sandisk and it's really good, but Crucial SSDs are made by Micron, a big memory chip maker much like sandisk. They're both gonna deliver great performance for you, those two brands aren't some cheap crap.
>>54482514
>tfw the age of quality ultraportables is over
>>54481415
>The battery life is why I went for it.
Did you also get the 72Wh battery?
Colleague of mine gets 14 hours of battery life on an X250.
>>54482395
The BX200 has a really poor IOPS and a long random access time when under heavy load. Probably doesn't matter to most people but I'd spend the extra money for a Sandisk Extreme or a Samsung 850 instead if possible.
I'm having issues with my X200 where it hangs, then resets any time the power state is changed - this includes power down, suspend-to-RAM, suspend-to-disk, and possibly reset (can't really tell since resetting is the desired behavior when i ask it to reset). It happens roughly 50% of the time, maybe a bit more. I haven't kept extensive logs of this issue, but it seems like suspending to RAM works the first time that I do it after booting, and then the second time it hangs and resets. It might occasionally do this the first time I try to suspend but I can't say for certain that it does. When it suspends successfully, the screen and fans turns off almost instantly, the sleep LED turns on, and all other LEDs are off unless the AC is plugged in, in which case the battery and AC LED are on. When it fails, the screen turns off but the fans and battery light (and AC light, if plugged in) stay on for about 10-15 seconds, then everything turns off and it reboots. If this happens as a result of attempting to suspend-to-disk, it boots fresh instead of resuming. This also sometimes happens after a system halt - instead of turning off, the power cycles and the system reboots.
I think I found this problem mentioned on ThinkWiki but now I can't find that specific page. IIRC, someone mentioned that the solution requires replacing the main board.
Has anyone else run into this? Is there a non-invasive fix by twiddling with the BIOS settings or using a different driver or kernel configuration? It's more of an inconvenience than a huge problem.
>>54475428
Would using dark themes on my x220 help battery life?
>>54482577
keyboard looks cramped as fuck
>yfw people keep complaining about Lenovo but the same IBM R&D team are still working on the ThinkPad in 2016
>>54483095
We know this, which is why we complain. How can you make a design that set a standard for the likes of Dell and HP, and fuck it up so badly?
>>54483095
I thought they would have ascended by now?
>>54483117
because /tpg/, thinkpad forums and /r/thinkpads represent less than 1% of lenovo's profit from thinkpad
>>54483159
You're forgetting that Lenovo backpedaled, and reverted the trackpoint buttons of the T450 to phsyical buttons,because of online backlash and the refusal to purchase it if they kept going this way.
>>54482714
no, it's not an OLED display so the amount of power the backlight uses won't change with what's displayed on the screen.
>>54482698
Are you using Linux or Windows?
>>54482616
I've heard a lot of people say the BX200 series is bad for some reason, so I'd advised against that one.
>>54483200
Linux, of course. 4.4.6 but it's been happening with older kernel versions as well. I don't remember if it happened when I bought it (about 10 months ago) or if it started happening later, but it's been happening for a good long while.
>>54483117
I could be mistaking, but I think when you take inflation into account Thinkpads are a lot cheaper now than they were before.
If keeping the exact same quality and design means they would cost $4000+ today they would get destroyed by competition.
>>54483412
I was watching a louis rossmann video where he claimed to have paid $750 for his T520 1080p screen in 2011, that is not expensive, machines with an ergonomic design, and durable construction are not a pricey thing to make.
>>54483317
I have suspend and hibernate working OK on my X200 under kernel 3.16 with Lubuntu 14.04 (don't see any reason to upgrade from the LTS supported kernel, it's not like I need new hardware support)
>>54483475
Googling some old reviews I get prices from "$999 starting" (http://techworldson.blogspot.nl/2011/02/lenovo-thinkpad-t520-launched-lenovo.html) to 1600 euro's. (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T520-Notebook.51596.0.html)
At 1.5% inflation over 5 years that's $1076 to €1723
Here in the Netherlands the cheapest T560 on the Lenovo website is €1119 with VAT, which is €924 without our 21% sales tax.
The top model is €1.826,10 (€1510 without sales tax).
>>54483684
And yet it's going to be an unusable poverty spec
main rig is in the shop, so im getting more familar with my trusty backup, a t400 6474, fast enough, but how the fuck do i switch from on board to internal pci ATI graphics? yes ive already switched the bios settings and downloaded the switchable drivers package from lenovo's site
>>54482449
nigga if you really want your ibm features it is going to be 2017 in a couple of months and you will have your retropad with babby lake
>>54483789
>going to be 2017 in a couple of months and you will have your retropad with babby lake
that was a PR stunt
nothing is probably going to come out of it
Even if there will be a finished product it's probably going to be 2000USD plus due to the special effort put into sourcing and assembling good components
>>54483836
Just use the x260 then I guess.
There is literally nothing wrong with it.
>>54483857
keyboard not as good and its not as sexy as older thinkpads
>>54483893
It's pretty sexy and yes you do have me on the keyboard but nothing to be done you know.
>>54483893
>shit keyboard or shit screens
How are X250's anyhow.
1080p Screen IPS
Extended Battery
8GB Ram
1TB HDD
i5-5300U
$620
Seems a bit expensive for what I'm getting
>>54484433
no shit, a brand new x260 is only an extra $100 with the discount.
>>54483783
anyone? im i mistaken in thinking this thing even has separate graphics?
>>54484548
If your bios is set on 'ATI graphics', it is using the ATI, and if you are getting proper resolution, your drivers are working fine.
>>54484433
50 series and even 40 series Thinkpads are still relitively new. Have the pricetag to show too.
>>54482125
I see this wallpaper and I know the guy uses 4chan's /wg
>>54477972
Well I got the x220 set up with one of the SSDs.
Just handed it over to my mom for a late mothers day present. Hopefully it will work for her needs. She is upgrading from a refurbished HP AMD Turion dual core.
>>54484615
>AMD Turion dual core.
God those things are nasty, The sandy bridge will be way better.
>>54484585
i see ati graphics in the bios but it seems to be referring to cards in the dock, shit, i think ive been wasting my time
>>54484611
What's wrong with that anon
>>54484639
Yeah, she got it refurbished in ~2011, so it was already 2-3 years old at the time.
Only real downgrade with the x220 is the screen size, but the resolution is the same, and IPS is certainly an upgrade over the TN she had before.
She also didn't have an SSD in the HP laptop, so just getting an SSD will likely be a nice quality of life improvement for her.
>>54482192
p good there's pressure sensitivity at least. disable finger touch.
>>54484660
Nothing, we're all using 4chan right now.
Is €289,98 a good price for a T430?
Intel Core i5 3rd gen 2.60 GHz
8 GB RAM
Intel HD Graphics 4000 1 GB
320 GB HDD (I already have a 500 GB SSD)
the seller lists it as "14,4'' HD Widescreen" so I'm assuming it's 1366 x 768?
>>54484772
can be 1366x768 or 1600x900 on the T430 I think, either one could technically be called an HD widescreen. Though I believe the 1600x900 is usually branded as HD+
>>54482192
You'll get 4 or 5 distinct brush levels compared to new wacom models hitting 15 and upward. (photoshop)
With the small screen you'll be zooming around a lot and the touch is near useless in navigation, has a very crude feel.
It's perfectly usable though as a drawing tablet. Has a slight slant from the battery so it won't lay flat. The edges of the screen are unusable when drawing. You need to maintain the angle you calibrated with on the pen.
>>54484811
After looking around on the website a bit it seems like he specifically mentions it when it's 1600x900 so I'm pretty sure it's 1366 x 768
I'm kinda in doubt, I have a shitty Toshiba right now with a 1366 x 768 resolution and I rather have a higher resolution. On the other hand, I have a desktop with a large monitor already.
Does a thinkpad still shine when it only has a 1366 x 768 resolution, and more importantly, is €289,98 a good price for this laptop?
>>54484906
It's not a bad price, but I am in the US so I can't speak too much about Thinkpad pricing in the EU.
I personally dont have a problem with 768 at that small screen size.
Assuming a W520 I buy doesn't have the raid feature, is there anyway I can go about creating a raid 0 set of drives which is accessible to both Windows and Linux?
I don't need the absolute up most reliability as all of the content will be on a NAS anyway... although with this said I don't want it to be temperamental.
I am debating between...
>256GB msata + 2 x 1TB HDD
>256GB ssd + 1 x 1TB HDD
>>54485501
you can set up a raid on anything you can connect all the drives to. an rpi even. if you're worried about throughput you might want to think about used server hardware.
My T440 just stopped working. Tried different batteries and chargers. Where do it send it to get repaired?
I need your advice guys. My dad needs a new laptop. I wanted to get him one of the recommended models but none are being sold in my country, the oldest being the T440, which isn't old at all. My dad isn't a delicate man, so I thought a thinkpad would suit his needs very well, but since he's against internationally shipping a used laptop (which I guess does sound odd) I find myself looking at the T450, which I think would suit his needs more than the 440, based on the specs. Can you advise me? Is this a bad model? Should I just go for another brand altogether?
Man I can't decide between an X220 or a T420. I don't know if I want a cute little ThinkPad or a massive ThinkPad I can abuse my wife with.
Is buying a thinkpad guarantees Linux compatibility? I'm planning to buy E560 but I'm not sure how well it would fare with linux, how can I check?
>>54485877
>E560
Don't even think about it.
Anyway, last I'd heard Skylake support as a whole was still sketchy on Linux. Better to buy older or wait a few months.
I connected my x220 to my x60t via a patch cable. The link leds on both laptops do not illuminate. What am I doing wrong?
>>54485850
I'd go with the T420 since you can get a 900p display for more screen real estate. The X series are cute though and you can out an ips display on them. Also people don't reccomend the T520 or W520 enough, they're really not much bigger than a T420, but you can get a nice 1080p display on them.
Just got a Latitude E6430 for 200 bucks at my local computer shop, how'd I do?
>>54486156
Did it come with the SSD or is that something you had on hand and put in there?
>>54486202
Came with the SSD
>>54486213
Good deal assuming it's not semen covered or similar.
>>54486239
Corner is chipped but everything else looks out of the box.
>>54486156
I don't know much about Dell pricing but
>i7 ivybridge
>8gb ram
>900p
>240gb ssd
I'd say really good! Thinkpad equivelant would have cost a lot more. Was that the way it came? Just make sure you don't upgrade to Windows 10, don't think Win7 Home has downgrade rights.
>>54485806
please help
I found a X240 for $360 but I think i can talk them down.
For the price, is it a good deal? Around here I can only find X220 for about $200 and X230 for $280 and up.
Anyone used this vinyl on their lelnovo? Not sure how well this will hold up overtime.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/KH-Special-Laptop-black-Leather-Skin-Cover-For-Lenovo-Thinkpad-X220/32267516552.html?spm=2114.40010608.4.2.hjZ12P
>>54486253
This everything that came with the laptop when I bought it, I already deleted all the windows 10 upgrade bullshit so we're in the clear.
I gotta say the keyboard is better than I thought it would be and the trackpad is comfy, the only thing I have a problem with is sometimes on black backgrounds the screen looks like it's waving but if I turn the brightness up I can't notice it. Anyone have a fix for this on low brightness settings?
>>54486313
You should buy it and post results here. Reviews look okay though.
>>54485806
>>54486288
all thinkpads are fine enough. the newer ones have some things that people don't like like the new keyboard, but it's still loads better than other laptops. We recommend the ones we do because of the pricing we can get. if you can't that's unfortunate, but they're still good laptops.
>>54486598
thank you
More like this please.
>>54486313
why bother?
>>54486745
>tfw you don't even own enough stuff to create a notenook gangbang.
Hey guys. T440p here, without Nvidia.
Can anyone tell me which drivers/packages do I need to install in Linux for it to work well?
>>54486745
I would but i got a dock
>>54486745
This is why i just ordered a dock
>>54478019
>This is what my factory-applied x230 paste looked like. It was like old chewing gum hard, too.
Sigh. It's not paste. It's a phase-change pad. It's supposed to be hard at room temp.
>>54480015
They're only selling in China right now. Got one through a friend.
>>54487283
Holy fuck, i'm jealous.
>>54487283
>X62
Holy shit. Jelly.
Is that just a custom faceplate/branding or is that brand new hardware modeled off an X60.
How is the motherboard? Any issues so far? Any news on when it will be ready for western markets?
Please share what you know anon
>>54487377
The motherboard drops into an X60 or X61 case.
The faceplate was custom; came with the mobo :-)
So far, only issue is audio is wonky. I knew that would be true ahead of time, supposedly there's a firmware update in the works that will fix it.
It's not clear it will ever be sold outside China, thus me finangling a first run with a few issues-- I was worried it would be my only chance.
>>54487283
How difficult would it be to get one? If I can get someone who can read chinese for me, could I somehow get one?
>>54487283
Fucking sexy. Replace that Thinkpad badge with a proper IBM one. It deserves it.
>>54487433
Might be able to. I'm not sure if the first batch is bought out by now or still on sale.
>>54487432
>The motherboard drops into an X60 or X61 case.
Nice. I'm really starting to drool. I better start looking for a good condition X60/X61 body. I want to get my hands on a mobo somehow. I have only seen complete units on ebay, but they go for about ~3000USD ;_;
>It's not clear it will ever be sold outside China,
Shame! Is there any specific reason you might know of? This is a dream laptop
X220 w 512msata, anyone want?
It's not ips panel tho
my current setup, a Libreboot'd travel laptop Thinkpad X200 with Debian GNU installed, an old ass laptop from 2012 with
>Ubuntu
installed only to test out the new LTS and a T420 with a newly installed minimal Debian straight out of a net install today, also muh quality mic
>>54482514
what model is this?
>>54487691
That's what HOPE (the Dude) at nb51 supposedly said. First batch was only for Chinese forum members, he would consider selling a later batch overseas.
>>54487723
Get some electrical tape and a xacto knife for the camera anon. Then you can use the memelight. Or just disconnect it.
Are there massive differences between the X series of laptops? I'm trying to debate whether a X240 is worth it, or if I should just go with the x200/x220
>>54487742
I used my broken Galaxy S5 for the picture, luckily my new OnePlus X is coming in the mail tommorow so thatll fix my meme camera problem
>>54487795
I meant the camera cover on the t420 fampai
>>54483783
What OS are you using?
Switchable graphics doesn't work on anything newer than Windows 7 (the driver installs and starts but doesn't actually do anything). You'll have to pick one in BIOS.
I set mine to use the HD3470 at all times because I'd rather deal with slightly lower battery life than the shittyass Intel iGPU. If you decide you'd rather have longer battery life at the expense of being able to play gaems than the T400 supports Core/Libreboot with the integrated GPU only.
Enjoy 16:10 while you can, feg.
When the only things I do on a t420 (900p) will be programming and the occasional watching of videos (youtube / mpv) with the odd game (ftl, roguelike, nothing 3D really), and I run linux (Arch), is it worth the nVidia card?
I know optimus has issues but apparently they aren't that bad for the t420, however I don't think I need the GPU and would prefer more battery life?
Thoughts?
>>54487890
No, mine runs spintires on med-high and can handle my dual 1050 monitors with ease.
>>54478345
>mfw my ancient T601F idles at 44C
>>54487890
The nvidia can be disabled, it's a mustve have, unlike penryn and arrandale chips where it's either gpu or nothing.
>>54487737
Ah, gotcha. Thanks for spoonfeeding me the info
Wheres a list of thinkpads which have vertical screen real estate?
>>54488011
T500 with a 1200p is the best thinkpad wthat is still readily available to buy.
>>54488011
I was going to give you a list, but >>54488044 is the best answer if vertical screen real estate is your principle requirement. You could go T601F with a x1200 display but that's going to cost more and be a fair amount of DIY fuckery.
>>54488140
is there anything that can take a better CPU than a Core 2 Duo?
I don't need something insane but more threads would be nice.
>>54488234
If money isn't an issue, the T560 has a 1440p tall screen.
>>54488264
it is :(
need laptop to get education to stop being poorfag
>>54488294
X201 is 16:10 and cheap, with a gen 1 i5/i7.
>>54488294
Best compromise would be the T520 with a 1080p screen, it's still pretty current and it's a tall screen.
Is there any place that sells a cover with the old IBM Thinkpad logo on it and/or an IBM Thinkpad sticker on the palmrest for the T420?
>>54488828
google is quicker than we are
>>54488867
Disgusting
I'm not sure I've asked this before, but which backlight replacement kit would be proper for one of those IAQX10N QXGA panels?
>>54477972
Preemptive apologies for my newfaggotry, but what is this REEEE thing?
>>54488906
Came from /R9K/ when someone is freaking out about something. For example, "768p? REEEEE"
>>54487432
>It's not clear it will ever be sold outside China
found this from a week ago
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://www.51nb.com/xinwen/benzhanshiye/2016-05-03/76006.html&usg=ALkJrhjMqaziNuBQ2XEnL9GM_kn4YdwqBw
they're at least continuing production.
>>54488916
REEEEEEEEE is the sound a some species of frogs makes when approached by a threat in order to try to make it go away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYKPdNvH800
>>54488988
>:50 "come here you hoe!
>REEEE
I learn something new everyday. Thank you, Anon.
>>54489024
When people ask questions the usual response is "lurk more", but lurk more doesn't work if no one ever answers them.
I'm trying to decide if I want to get an ultrabay hard drive adapter for the old 160GB mechanical drive that came with my T400 (that I replaced with an SSD). One one hand I never use my optical drive and it would be kind of cool to have the extra storage space, but on the other hand I don't really NEED the space, and it would be a slowass 5400 RPM mechanical drive.
>>54484643
Peep this shit.
http://win10-on-t500.blogspot.com/
>>54489063
A 160GB drive in your ultrabay can hold quite a few blu-ray rips, I'd suggest it.
>>54486156
Are the e6430 any good? From the reviews I've read it doesn't seem extremely reliable but it only seems like HDD failure.
I just need a laptop for programming work and some light html work
>>54489063
Go for it.
I want to buy a L460, is it any good? or should I buy something else?
Price would be 869€ (1187US$)
Specs:
Intel® Core™ i7 (6. Generation) 6500U Prozessor Skylake
8 GB DDR3L SDRAM (max.32 GB)
14"
AMD Radeon™ R5 M330 2048MB
256GB SSD
USB jacks etc
>>54490655
forgot pic
>>54490662
>>54490655
Nice bridge shots anon.
Not super sure, but you may want X or T model.
>Wiki
Other Series:
Unless the deal is excellent, avoid:
R-series
L-series
SL-series
Z-series
Edge/E-series
>>54490870
Yeah that's why I'm asking. The deal seems pretty great to me, it's special offer for students and is 400€+ cheaper than in other shops.
I looked at the wiki and found almost nothing for the l460.
Whats 1600x900 resolution like to work with?
Thinking of picking up an old x1 carbon
>>54490938
If it looks like a good deal (and onboard GPU, new Skylake, 1/4TB SSD does [not sure about build quality]) then I guess go for it.
But don't let /tpg/ be the last word anon, shop around some more to see if you can find a better deal on a better lappy.
>>54490662
>>54490655
>>54491030
$1200 USD is pricey though...
>>54491030
yeah I will do so. thanks
>>54491048
for reference, lenovo sells the l460 with i5 and no dedicated graphical coprocessor for 1031€ on amazon
I will look a little more for other series but I think I will stick with this one. a huge plus for me is that I really like the design.
>>54484946 #
>have a problem with 768 at that small screen size.
Yeah one of the differences between thus thinkpad and my toshiba is that my toshiba is 15.6" and the thinkpad is 14" so it'll look crisper anyway
I think I'm going to wait till the end of this semester though when buying one since I tend to spend way too much time on a new PC, maybe it'll also help with the price
Is the difference between a i5-3320M (2.60 GHz) and a i7-3520M (2.90 GHz) really noticeable?
Can I replace the CPU myself?
>>54491915
Battery life off the top of my head.
>>54487723
>installs Linux
>still worried about someone gaining access to his camera.
What's the point?
Why are the speakers on the t420s so fucking bad? Literally the only problem I have with muh baby.
Just purchased a seller refurbished T420 off of eBay for £131. How fucked am I? What are the chances the battery will be shit? I probably should have consulted /tpg/ before I bought it but oh well.
>>54492464
>131£
Too good to be true
>>54492586
what is the average price for a t420 I paid 160 for mine and that looked good compared to the others
>>54492343
what expectations did you have from a business laptop? they're fucking great compared to X220's
So what's the future of Thinkpads in say, 5-10 years?
Will we bite the bullet, continue the current system and buy used, shitty chiclet Thinkpads? Or will we continue using our ancients T420:s and X220:s, or will we simply find another brand altogether?
What price should an American be looking for when searching x220 tablets on eBay?
>>54492650
We'll use the X301 remake due next year.
>>54492736
you're putting a lot of faith in that thing actually being good
How do the speakers and display in a T420 or W520 compare to a 2010 Macbook Pro?
I'm trying out a free T61 right now and the viewing angles on the display are pretty bad and the speakers are eh.
MWAHAHA
I just got this from eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262431212713
It has found a good home.
>>54492946
business/10
What's a great all around thinkpad for about $250~ with at least 4gb of ram and easily replaceable keyboard caps?
>>54475428
Hi TGP, I'm a bit new to in-depth hardware specs, tolerances and stuff,
but I'm trying overclocking for the first time and I have a few questions.
1. Do people usually leave their laptops in an overclocked state?
Or is overclocking predominately used for gaming sessions on underpowered hardware?
2. If CPU temperature and stress tests reveal no problems, would it be ok to leave it in that state?
I'm dealing with 1.7ghz and I'd like to see a constant 2.1 or more if possible.
>>54493018
Warning: you will want one with an NMB keyboard. Though I'm very fond of the Chicony on my T60. It is... loud, the clicks are much louder than in the NMBs I tested.
>>54487731
X60
>>54487283
Dude i fucking jizzed, specs?
Jesus man I wish I knew about these before I bought this shitty cheap ass Asus laptop for school. The x220 looks cool as hell man.
>>54494803
>tfw my x220 arrives tomorrow
>>54494803
I was in your position a year ago, torn between a safe and shitty Asus netbook, and a used X220 from some sketchy dude, both priced equally.
I'm so fucking glad I chose X220, best decision of my computing life.
>>54495085
What's your battery life like? More than 6 hours of browsing?
>>54495031
Got mine yesterday, popped an SSD in there and gave it to my mom.
Pretty solid little laptop, I enjoyed the hour or two I was messing around with it before I gave it over to my mom. If I needed a laptop i'd probably be tempted to get an x220/230 or a T520/530
>>54495151
Your mom better be using it with linux
T430 or T420?
>>54495248
She needs W7 for work.
She has used a few linux distros though, she is a web dev.
>>54495145
I wish, man.
I received the X220 with the battery with two thirds of original capacity.
If you get a new 9 cell battery (~60$), you'll get 5-6 hours easily. But I get 3 hours max with my 6 cell (so practically 4 cell).
>>54495085
Is it really that nice? I mean I can get one for like under 200 on ebay and I'm pretty sure I can sell this laptop I hate for 200. It looks small enough to me, but it looks really thick, is it not really a big deal? I definitely love the look.
>>54495290
>but it looks really thick, is it not really a big deal?
Nigga you're in a /tpg/ thread.
>>54487881
Man, you should stop using your thinkpad near waterfalls, squirting pornstars or whatever you were doing when that picture was taken.
>>54495290
It's not a Macbook Air, but I wouldn't call it really thick. I don't mind it at all, and I wouldn't dare sacrifice any of its benefits for a slimmer package.
And yes, it's nice. If you're not planning on doing any heavy gaming, it's a great machine. You can't beat it for 200$.
Would it be proper to use epoxy to build a kind of a rollcage for a 15" T60 top lid? I don't like the way it flexes.
>>54488044
got an old T500 for free, slapped Ubuntu/i3 on there. Barely touch my HP ultrabook anymore.
>>54495275
That's p cool.
Just did a rough calculation on how much would it cost to create a bluetooth keyboard from the X220's keyboard.
150$.
That's a lot of money. That's a I-should-just-buy-a-mechanical-keyboard amount of money.
I've never even designed a PCB in my life, so I should just abandon this idea before I have to.
>>54495668
Yeah that's a real waste.. The keyboard is nice, but only for being a laptop one, can't really see why you would want to use it on anything else..
Alsop, you can just buy standalone wired version if you really want one
>>54483684
Hi I'm Dutch too, do you know a good place to buy Thinkpads? I found asbascomputers.nl but they have very limited offers
I'm looking for a T420 or T430 (I think I'll go for the latter though since it has 2 USB 3.0 ports)
>>54495741
>can't really see why you would want to use it on anything else
I bought a shitty bluetooth keyboard and got all salty about it, to the point of embarking on this fun adventure that has to come to an abrupt but expected end. I would probably do it if it was closer to 100$, but it's definitely going to go near 200$, so I'll have to pass.
Didn't know about the wired one, I'll keep that as an option.
Does the trackpad on the x220s do gestures? I really find the scrolling one to be useful.
>>54495901
Lenovo does make a bluetooth keyboard with a trackpoint, but the keys are the chiclet design ones from the 30 series.
>>54496247
Yeah I've seen those, but chiclet is just as bad as the keyboard I currently resent, so not good enough for me.
>>54495407
Only if you want something about as strong as uncooked pasta.
I figured out why diablo 3 was running like shit. because my BIOS puts Optimus nvdia on everytime I rbeoot so I have to put it to integrated graphics manually. any fix so it doesn't do this? Is it because of dual boot?
>>54496247
>>54496287
same scissor mechanism, idiots. the main problem is still the shitty layout
Anyone here have an eGPU setup?
