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Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
Previous Thread: >>53948043
Does anyone with MDR-7506s hear subtle, but very noticeable driver actuation noises when listening to bass tones under 200Hz?
It's like a fluttering noise, and I've been hearing it every since I bought them.
>download newest Skrillex and Diplo album
>put on MDR-XB950 on mid volume
is this what eargasm sounds like?
>>53964646
There might be something stuck into the driver like a hair.
>>53964646
It's either a hair in the driver or little hair in your ears and you need to remove them using tweezers. I thought my ears were ruptured but I tweezed a hair out that was stuck in my ear canal when I use IEMs.
>>53964700
I know that feel I have XB90EXs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pQjTIAZBAc
![Shure_SE215_K_SE215_Sound_Isolating_In_Ear_Stereo_758631[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/igQ05rb.jpg "Shure SE215 K SE215 Sound Isolating In Ear Stereo 758631[1]")
The (detachable) cable of my Shure SE215 broke. Should I get a new cable for 50€ or rather new headphones?
>Budget
less than 100€
>Location
Europe
>Source
phone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
I prefer heavy isolation and bassy sound. Are there better options out there? Thanks /g/
>Budget
More or less $650
>Location
USA
>Source
I don't own a DAC/AMP
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized open
>Comfort level
Average comfort
>Preferred tonal balance
V-shaped, or balanced with good bass
>Preferred music
https://youtu.be/g-lbSOARXZY
http://youtu.be/-lHRRVnoE0Y
http://youtu.be/oyCv6hI_rOk
http://youtu.be/uP7oqQFvn2k
>>53964931
Have you enjoyed the sound signature or looking to try something new?
>>53964931
The Fiio replacement cable for Shure's are decently cheap as far as aftermarket headphone cables go. RC-SE1.
No point in getting new if the IEM itself isn't broken.
>>53964947
HE400i.
Doesn't need an amp but either Schiit stack or O2+ODAC if you want one. Get whatever is cheaper.
>>53964967
I wouldn't mind trying something new. I like how they suck into my ears and isolate all noises and the bass. But sometimes I feel like they could be clearer? Don't know I'm probably a pleb.
>>53964931
Buy a new cable + buy this.
www.aliexpress.com/item/Fake_Shure_SE215/32478173825.html
Tell us what you think of your genuine and these ones.
>>53964990
You might give the sennhesier momentum in ear a try or maybe the rha ma750 will fit into your budget?
>>53964931
Might be worth looking into the ath-im50/im70. They're apparently bassy with good clarity.
>>53964606
So why is wireless frowned upon? Don't you just love the freedom of wireless?
>>53965081
More things to break that you pay extra for plus batteries. It is more sensible to get an adapter for wired headphones.
>>53965081
Autism mostly. No reason to hate on wireless. Problem is that there are only a few good wireless products we know of and most wireless stuff goes undocumented. Hard to recommend something nobody really knows anything about.
>>53965081
Oh, and I forgot to mention the proprietary technology involved that gets the sound quality to almost as good as wired headphones.
>>53964947
Beyerdynamic DT 990 premium 250 ohm with one of this guys >>53964989 amp/dac suggestions
Off-topic, but does anyone have any suggestions for a good two-channel stereo speaker systems with a headphone out? Was considering pic related, but it has no headphone out
>>53965514
>>53964989
Thanks guys
>>53965525
WHERE IS THE ALLSPARK!?
>>53965525
That looks like a horrible piece of shit.
>>53965717
>>53965743
I agree. Which is why I am asking for suggestions
>>53965756
>asking for suggestions
>no budget
Yeah, no.
>>53965768
Under 200 maple-syrup bucks
>>53964606
Are there any headphones with a lifetime warranty like the KOSS portapro? I keep seeing "these headphones are betturr" or "The portapro have shoit sound", but still, I'm a headphone abuser, I regularly wreck them. This has happened to me:
>be me
>headphone headband adjuster gets #rekt
>send it to Koss, saying "They sound a lil bit shit and also this piece broke off. Could you replace the bad parts?
>2 weeks later
>get it back
>look at the manifest describing what has been done with them
>New Y cable
>New PortaPro element (the headphone speakers I presume)
>new headpiece
That's basically new headphones, like out of the box new, and it cost me (including postage) 10 bucks. These have already been in service about five times (due to my stepping on them, tugging on the cable, fell on them during skiing - actually they didn't break on that occasion but I drowned them afterwards). So they are top notch for quality control.
Are there any other companies that have the balls to recommend these? I'd love to get some good headphones for my PC usage at home. Cheers, guys!
>>53965812
Get two postcards, remove speakers, solder some wire onto them and tape them to your head.
Sources: I heard that maplebucks are running really low at the moment.
>>53964606
Anime posting faggot
>>53965993
>companies that have the balls to recommend these?
I meant to enforce the lifetime warranty no-questions-asked.
>>53965993
If you abused headphones a lot just get German Maestro headphones
>>53966135
>100$ - 150$
>no lifetime free warranty as far as I can see
What is their selling point? Only ones I can find are 3 years of warranty. At that price, I could easily get the 4AAT or even 4AAAT with lifetime warranty from Koss. Not thinking about "Not being able to break them", because I can break absolutely any headphones out there, unless they're made out of concrete. I'm fucking clumsy. That's why I'm trying to save as much money post-purchase, because I know I'll get used to them and buying new headgear every couple months could burn a hole through my pocket.
>>53966135
Thanks for the answer anyway, the German Maestros look like really nice headphones if I ever get less clumsy.
I want to gift my brother some entry level headphones.
>Budget
100 USD
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Medium, I know he'll use them for flights and watching stuff in bed.
>Preferred tonal balance
He's into bassy shit
>Preferred music
Latin Music and EDM
>Past headphones
Shitty iPhone earbuds (iems in general)
>>53967152
ATH Meme50X
>>53967152
Mud50X
>>53967152
Spend a little bit more and get the K553 pro on massdrop, id be worth it
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k553-pro-studio-headphone
>>53967152
100$ is way too much for entry level
Try the HD 202, they're durable, good enough for entry level and cost 20 dollars. I can personally attest for these as I've owned them for 2 years and still work great and the clamping force loosened into a really snug and comfy fit.
I also saw the Monoprice 108323 recommended a lot as entry level headphones but /hpg/ kinda forgot about it. Probably because the general went to shit.
>>53967195
> K553
> Portable enough for flights
>>53967232
It is portable just get a fucking case then its still better in every way than the fucking m50
>>53967328
> Needing an even bulkier case for your bulky headphones
I know nothing about headphones, I've been using sennheiser earbuds for years but I've never had decent on ear or over ear headphones. My dad's a cameraman and gave me his old hd-25s, are they good?
>>53967473
Yes. They're a great pair, especially if you got for free.
Enjoy.
Ok so since there isn't a general for speakers, I thought I should ask here. Are there any good bookshelf speakers which won't come with a ball busting price?
![Kro-Craft-Speaker-Rev_B-ViewSet_01[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SH5PfUp.jpg "Kro-Craft-Speaker-Rev B-ViewSet 01[1]")
>>53967710
Arguably the best at 60 bucks, if you really want bass to go nice and low you're gonna have to add a sub though.
They're fine on a desk, but they get overwhelmed quickly in a room.
They're also not very effecient so make sure to get a good amp.
how are the xiaomi piston 3 reddots? noticed the iem guide recommended piston 2s a while back, are the piston 3 a good deal?
Anyone here have any experience with FitEar customs?
>Budget
150 cad
>Location
canuckland
>Source
ipod/phone/computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
going to be wearing for long periods of time so somewhat comfy
>Preferred music
metalcore/trance/edm/rap
>Past headphones
very terrible iems
>>53967710
These go for $100 when they're on sale, which is pretty frequent. Widely acclaimed as the best speakers at their price point. You have to spend at least $200 to get anything better. Very flat frequency response, unreal bass extension given that the woofer is 4".
>>53967710
What do you consider to be a "ball busting price?"
Should I do it, /g/uys?
>Budget
100-150 USD
>Location
US
>Source
Note 4, laptop, iPod nano gen 3
>open or closed
Closed
>comfort level
Medium-high, my left ear does this thing where it rests on the cup and hurts after prolonged use so idk if that matters
>preferred music
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C5FXNA4UiJI
https://youtu.be/R2ZV_VlKMhI
https://youtu.be/Utj8DoSjfqo
Also some old school chiptune as well as stuff with more bass like squirllex and virtual riot
>past headphones
Generic Samsung earbuds, senheisser cx3.0, and some gaming headsets (afterglow Kral, turtle Beach x11, x12, and x32).
I'd also prefer something with a detachable cable, my past 3 pairs of earbuds died because the cable broke.
>>53968237
Also, over the ear headphones, missed that part.
Does any headphone beat qc25 in terms of noise cancelling?
>>53967953
Literally impossible to buy without the presence of a local authorised dealer.
>>53967956
Beyerdynamic dt 770 pro 80 ohm. Comfy as fuck and perfect for your tastes. It's also closed so you got some isolation.
>>53968338
Plzhelp, gunna go buy headphones today
>>53968494
No they are the best for noise cancellation but as you probably know the sound really is bad at the pricepoint.
>>53968494
Enjoy your shitphones
>>53968512
Wat about parrot zik 3, it is high end has many bells and whistles. And it says strong noise cnancwlling but im not so sure abiut that.
Is the noise cancelling on parrot zik 3 as good? I have a noisy house.
Thx.
>>53968573
Same price/performance really. Just get a good closed high end pair like the fostex thx00. Those will last you an eternity and really are amazing sound wise. Thr bad thing though is that they only have noise dampening, but it should be enough.
>>53968573
PSB M4U2 because Zeos says so
anyone on Sennheiser HD 201? i just need some low-tier shit around 20eur for work and what i read about them, they are pretty ok except the basses which i don't really care about
>>53967232
>>53967374
stop with this cancer meme
How harsh/forgiving are the M40Xs compared to the M50Xs?
>>53968573
it gud hameru.
>>53968672
Less bass, flatter sound signature, generally preferred around here over the M50X.
>>53968672
They are both trash memes
>>53968635
I have them.
>>53968703
Suggest a headphone under 500 dollars that doesn't fall under the category of meme.
>>53968732
and? comfy enough?
>>53968737
K553 pro, TH X00, HE 400i, K702, DT 880, T50rp (the original), MSR7 are all headphones that were never fotm memes
>>53968773
Different guy here.
My dad has them, they're not very comfy to me.
Pads are flat and feel cheap, so they're pretty much on-ear.
Headband padding is soft enough.
Clamp is soft, because the entire thing's made of plastic. Makes it not absolutely terrible to wear.
It really feels horribly cheap, but they still work after a lot of years so I suppose they're not terrible quality.
Does anyone else here read what ilkless writes about audio? Pretty fun to see him destroy subjectifools. The antithesis of zeos if there ever was one.
>>53968814
but those are all memes. but at least zeos approves of the 400i and THX00. Also what gives, no HD600s???
>>53968854
>antithesis of zeos
then into the trash it goes.
>>53968773
>>53968635
It doesn't matter those things are shit just get one of those k240 knockoffs
>>53968858
None of those are memes and the hd600 is trash every headphone i listed is better
>>53968773
Yes to some degree.
I dislike the plastic build quality but once you put them on it doesn't matter.
Sound quality is okay. I'm still working on the HD201s EQ. I literally got these a few days ago for $15 in store. I suggest if you have a higher budget Superlux 668b or 681. Or Tascam TH02 if obtainable.
>>53968814
They are memes forced here by you.
So after reading all the reviews and seeing all the comments on the T50RP Mk3 is there truly no other headphone that surpasses it? Will i need an amp? Zeos says i do but others say it's highly efficient.
new pads wew lads
>>53969055
Zeos is also the biggest meme of them all.
I hope all the zeos love is ironic.
>>53969055
My phone can push my modded T20RP Mk3s to a decent level, but an amp is a good idea if you wanna get loud.
>>53968858
>zeos
who the fuck cares about this fat faggot
stop sucking his johnson you cock goblin
>>53969119
Ironic?
>>53969126
Yeah i'll get something small. Are USB powered amps enough?
>>53969147
Sarcastic. Whatever you want to call it.
He is Incompetent, fat and completely ignorant.
>>53969178
No i actually like his reviews. You're pretty rude.
>>53969147
USB power is probably enough, can't say for sure though because my amp has auxiliary power in.
I never go over half volume on the dial, with PC volume maxed.
I like the m50s, but i need something to wear in public. Are m50s a bad idea for public wearing?
Someone post the price range recommendation pastebin please, it's not in the OP
>>53969242
No, the M50x come with a small detachable cable that's perfect for portable use.
>>53969195
His reviews are entirely devoid of content and your ignorance is showing itself if you can't see that.
As >reddit users go, noaudiophile and ilkless provide far more information on audio.
>>53969273
Alright, i guess a few people don't like him. I'll keep watching though, he's given me good advice.
>>53969266
Unfortunately im on thw m50, not x. Maybe i should just mod them or srll them.
>>53969292
well they isolate well enough for portable i guess but that long cable is annoying.
>>53969290
He gives fucking awful advice that is either false, repeated without explanation, or ignorant. Doesn't have a single ounce of technical understanding in him. Doesn't measure stuff. Doesn't provide truly original content. Can't even do >subjective reviews properly. He is fucking useless and you should be ashamed that you think he is any sort of authority on audio.
Watching him is your loss, not mine.
How do you wear headphones with long hair? It screws up my hairdo most of the time..
>>53969243
https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/comments/3tu9gl/guide_headphones_gaming/
>>53969434
not even gonna click that
>>53969417
Just wear audio technicas with that wing design. Or just get iems.
>>53969417
I just put my hair behind my ears, then put the headphones over top. Works for me.
Recommend me good headphones in the $20 - $50 price range, prefferably less.
I'm looking for:
Closed-back, flat/analytical, good for electronic music.
Also, these are on a sale for $20, what do you think? http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/SHL3000_00/headband-headphones
>>53964606
>Budget
$100-200AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
Desktop PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Priority
>Preferred tonal balance
N/A
>Preferred music
N/A
>Past headphones
Wireless meme shit, I don't want to talk about it.
>>53968932
Get out sennfag and get over the fact that no one here likes your shitty memes.
>>53969434
> tfw your gaming heapdhones aren't there
I should probably throw these 550's into the garbage now
;_______;
>>53969477
M 5 0
What state
>>53969542
>mfw Zeos doesn't recommend your headphones.
>>53969571
Victoria
>>53964606
I just ordered Sony MDR V150 headphones. Should I cancel the order and get something different?
Cost me $10, and I don't wanna pay more.
>>53969577
Zeos is a meme fuck off with this shit now
>>53969592
Oh damn, i coulda got you some new ones for 60 bucks
>>53969620
This is how they look.
I really liek this classic look. And it's only $10.
pls send help
>>53969694
Could've told me that a minute ago.
Oh well, it's cool.
>>53968223
No. Beyerdynamic IEMs are generic, rebranded trash.
>>53969472
bumpo
>>53969694
Not him but why is it $60? Which state?
>>53969801
I assume they fell out of the back of a truck.
what's a good, small, modern amp that can drive high impedance headphones? i got an old pair of sennheiser hd414s that are like 2000 ohms and the 60s budget kenwood stereo amp ive been using is huge and kinda falling apart
>>53969762
Sorry! Youll enjoy them regardless.
>>53969801
Nt, i have 10 that i won in an auction. The boxes are water damaged but i tested each set for issues.
How do YOU break in a new headphone after a purchase?
>>53969868
Just use it. Normally.
>>53969868
Im sure breaking in is the biggest joke in audio technology. However i think mine did change a bit over time but honestly i doubt it
>>53969868
there's no other way to "break in" a headphone other than forcing yourself to use them for a long period of time until you get used to them
when will people stop believing in this meme
Opinions on these? I'm not familiar with Audio Technica. How do they compare to the K702 or the HD598?
>>53969868
I usually send them off to Zeos so he can run them for a week and do a review of them before he sends them back to me. He will usually contact me to let me know what he thinks of them and will return them to amazon if they aren't up to snuff. Saves me a lot of time and trouble.
>ctrl+f "zeos"
>12 matches
fucking hell.
>>53969935
>>53969926
Because you saw an article on it, right?
>>53970072
>ctrl+f "zeos"
>13 matches
Fucking nice.
>>53970081
are you seriously trying to say that breaking in headphones is a real thing
>>53968635
If you can get the HD 202 for around the same price and don't mind a slightly tighter headband, get that one instead.
The 202 has higher build quality and a more balanced sound signature. I've also seen people complain about the 201 pads falling apart. I used a 202 for about 4 years, and the pads are still intact.
>>53970081
No because i measured the responses on my xb1000s at 0 listening and after a few weeks noticing no difference.
Besides an article that has evidence or cites a study is a creditable basis to for an opinion on
>>53970101
>are you seriously
Don't meme with me, cunt. Isn't the concept of burn-in just hastening the process of listening to music?
>>53970081
>a few studies gets conducted, with actual data to back up their findings that disproves the myth that the phenomenon of new headphones sounding phenomenally better after having it blast noise for 300+ hours is a placebo
>after years of nothing but people just saying it's true but never really knowing why except, "well it's happened to me, and other people say the same thing so it must be so"
>after years of people arguing that it's a real thing despite the fact the only real data they can use for evidence is just word of mouth and personal experience
>you still think it's wrong
>>53970147
>degenerating to namecalling
>considering "are you seriously" is a meme
Breaking in headphones is not a real thing. The only thing happening is you getting used to your headphones by just using them normally.
Damn man, the left side of my headphones just stopped working. Lasted for two years
>>53969990
K702>AD900X>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HD598
>>53970245
Wiring issues? Try fixing it? Don't throw them out.
>>53970236
>Breaking in headphones is not a real thing
It kind of is. The pads get looser therefore the headphones gets every so slightly closer to your hear, so they sound different
>>53970282
when I say "not a real thing" I'm referring to the myth that they sound 500X better after having them sit there and blast noise for a long period of time, like some dolts do to their new headphones.
of course they'll sound a little different after wearing them for a while due to a number of different factors, but it won't drastically alter the sound
>>53970274
Probably yeah. I don't have any tools for fixing it though, and I'd probably be shit at it anyway. I think I might still have a warranty
>>53968635
I have them. Bass is there but it is weak, the rest is okay. Most people complain that they break or fall apart, mine are still fine, had them for 3 years. If you don't throw them around and treat them carefully they won't break. I find them very comfortable, ear pads are decently large (60x40 mm) but not deep (about 14 mm), so if your ears are huge or stick out a lot they probably won't be comfortable, clamp force is weak. They don't isolate much so using them in a bus or some place like that is a terrible idea, otherwise they do cut out enough noise to be listenable.
>>53968907
>I'm still working on the HD201s EQ
Can you post what you have going so far? I've tried to EQ them but couldn't get it right.
>>53970394
>eqs
Not yet. It's terrible and it sounds worse than stock.
>>53970308
by the time the sound changes in the headphone due to pads or some other thing, you wouldn't even realize the change because it's so small your brain could easily adjust itself to accommodate it.
Not only that, but the sound changes ever so slightly anyways due to the fact you never put your headphones on in the exact same way, so in the end there is no real effect going on that's immediately noticeable.
>>53970472
Yeah, I tried to EQ them by comparing their InnerFidelity graph to HD 600 one, sounded weird so I just left it stock. When do you think you'll have the EQ done? I don't check these threads often but wouldn't want to miss it.
Fill in the blanks:
_____meme>______meme>_______meme>>>>>>>>>>>________meme
>>53970263
thats completely backwards
>>53970542
subjective opinion > subjective opinion >>>>>>> subjective opinion
>>53970652
Zeos>Hifiguy528>innerfidelity>>>>>>>>/hpg/
>>53970509
I am no expert. I eq them by ear and switch until they sound good.
Two weeks or more. I made the Monoprice 8320 eq in the last thread but it doesn't sound 1:1, only similar. My eqs are subjective so they may not sound good to your ears.
>Budget
<400
>Location
USA AZ
>Source
Don't own an AMP but don't mind looking into getting one. Mainly use it for my homedesktop and my work laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed. I hate when people hear my music
>Comfort level
More comfortable. My current everyday is ATH-M50 and they pinch my ears way to much and after long use get heavy
>Preferred tonal balance
Personally I love feeling the bass in my music but I listen to all kinds of music. Hip-hop, jazz, pop, metal etc.
>Preferred music
I listen to all kinds of music and like to enjoy them all
>Past headphones
First nicer kind was Skullcandies fullsize. I liked them because they were loud as hell but the noise leak was huge and sound quality just wasn't there at all.
For gaming I used some Razer Cacarus and the comfort on these phones were amazing. 100% amazing but the sound quality and the leak on the felt pads were rubbish.
Now I use ATH-M50 with Modmic. The sound quality is good and the loudest and bass I like but the comfort level of these phones suck. I have tried stretching them but it hasn't helped. Generally my ear are getting pinched a lot and the upper parts of my ear are just hurting a great deal.
Are these actually any good? I was thinking of getting cheap open headphones to try it out. A while back I was looking some up and these seemed to be pretty popular but that was probably over a year ago so I don't know if something more worthwhile has come out
>>53970714
>AMP
>>53970786
I don't understand what your getting at here.
>>53970814
why did you capitalize it
>>53970828
idk because I felt like it I guess...
>>53970852
are you autistic?
>>53970542
Mine>Dank>Shit>Your
>>53970863
other people in these threads capitalize dac/amp so why of all days do you decide to shit on this one anon?
>>53970889
DAC is an acronym.
>>53970706
Well I'll check the archive for it when I'll remember it a few weeks from now, good luck!
>>53970897
but AMP could just mean Another Massive Penis
>>53970912
>an another
Which ones should I get, /g/uys? I'm mostly looking for isolation, comfort, and good bass. Something fun for a long trip. Any help is appreciated
Looking for an warm AMP to drive high impedence cans? Any recs?
>>53969117
Looks comfy. What are they?
Guys I'm really liking my Oppo HA-2 AMPs
>>53970931
>>53970961
>being this MAD
>>53970927
nothing beats the comfort of Shure's IEMs.
Except of course Custom Fit IEMs..
I recommend Shure since I have a pair and the bass is nice enough for 99 dollar headphones. Neither of those are going to be "bone-rattling" so why not pick the one that's more comfortable and has better isolation?
>>53970985
>not wanting an Anonymous Moist Pussy
>>53970985
My Anonymous Dick?
>>53970767
Go for the Philips shp 9500. Those are just cheap knock offs off the beyer dt 880.
>>53970927
Get Shure AliExpress SE215s >>53965019. I don't have them but just saying one guy at Head-fi said it sounds 7/10 to the real thing. And get that 2nd earphone in your pic.
>>53967152
Takstar 80 pro
>>53970767
Those were my first 'real' headphones and let me tell you for the price they're incredible. Nice sound and great build quality. Just buy them, for the price you can't lose.
>>53971072
>>53971370
I'm very torn now. The Philips ones are a bit more expensive but maybe it's worth it
>>53970951
M40x with Brainwavz pads. Really comfy.
>>53971406
I've never heard of those phillips although they look like the 'junior' version of the X2's and that's probably a good sign, however if you've never had good headphones then the takstars will feel god tier. If I was you i'd buy them because you will either be so happy that you won't care about upgrading ever or you will love them but want something more after a while if this hobby consumes you.
What i'm trying to say is that the takstars will be your end game instantly or you would end up seller either of them for something better in the long run.
>>53971798
I have MDR V6 at the moment, not super but decent. Just looking at trying open headphones and I don't have that much to spend. The US sellers I was looking at don't seem to ship to Europe though and on UK Amazon the Philips are twice the price of the Takstars
>>53971880
The Philips are discontinued, so if you want them, now's the time to buy them.
>>53971880
Ah, Iv'e never tried those headphones but I know that they're supposed to be decent. Honestly I wouldn't bother buying either of them for an open headphone test. I was assuming you only tried pure shit headphones in your entire life.
The next open headphone step imo would be the akg k702 (fully open) or the fostex T50RP mk3's which are semi open. If you can't afford £120 or so then I would just stick to what you have, for now at least.
I don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but I was looking to update my PCs surround sound. I need a new AV receiver since my current one is old as shit and the best it supports is S/PDIF.
HDMI supports Dolby TrueHD/DTS-HD/Lossless PCM/ect and most AVRs seem to focus on having a bunch of HDMI input on the back and one HDMI output that you then feed to your monitor. Sounds easy just plug my video card's HDMI into the AVR and then from that go to my monitor. But apparently this introduces a certain amount of latency which isn't really acceptable if I'm going to be playing games on this.
So then I was thinking I'll get a splitter take the HDMI out of my PC put it through the splitter and have one going to my monitor and the other to the AVR I'm going to buy but none of the ones I could find supported HDMI 2.0 most were just 1.4 which isn't going to work with my 4k monitor.
So I'm kinda at a loss for what to do, should I just buy that new AVR turn off as much processing features as I can and eat whatever latency it shits out. Internet varies from "I don't notice any" to "Can't play anything because of the 35ms of latency it introduces" to "lol I dunno", maybe I should keep trying to find an HDMI 2.0 splitter or maybe just stick with S/PDIF and just say fuck it to modern audio standards.
I was thinking maybe I should get like a sound card with HDMI out but from what I was looking at none of them supported that it was either S/PDIF or a series of 3.5mm jacks.
So I'm getting to the point where I just don't know anymore.
>>53966010
Welcome to 4chan.
>>53971921
True, on the other hand their price has gone up because of that so I don't know if they're worth the hundred or whatever they go for now. The selling point was that they're great for the cheap price but now they're up there with more expensive ones
What headphones besides V-Moda ones work with the Boompro around 100 bucks?
Are there any open-back options?
>>53972250
Yeah, they were a fucking steal at their original €60.
Even at €100 they're supposedly still good value though. I'd say when you get to about €150 or so there's better options.
>>53969868
Download a pink noise track. Put track on DAP. Play track on autorepeat. Put DAP and headphones in sock drawer. Come back in a day or two.
>>53971140
I'm not really the kind of guy who rewards others trying to rip off another company's work.
>>53970961
>Oppo HA-2 AMP
It's pretty good dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5UQSqwRPQc
>>53971406
>>53971072
The SHP9500 at 70 dollars are totally worth it. Takstars just can't compare. As zeos put it, the takstars are baby DT880s but just don't come close. The SHP9500 are equal to or better than the venerable HD600 and as we all know the HD600 trumps the DT880s.
> mfw when I could have bought the K702 for 60€ but it rose to 180€ because I asked the seller for information
Someone end my pathetic stupid fucking life and my dumb ass brain. I just didn't want to waste 60€ because the seller was fishy and could have sent me a fucking rock for all I knew. Turns out it was legit.
>>53972948
Don't worry the K702s aren't that good either, probably not worth the 60 euros.
>>53972918
Europe always gets shafted with prices, I would totally order them at 70 dollars but they won't ship over here, and in Europe the cheapest ones I can find are 100 pounds plus shipping so that's twice the price
>>53972980
still worth it but since you are on a budget get the takstars.
>>53972974
But what is good? Dont recommend me the Fostex. They're semi open, on-ear that require additional pads which raises its price to well over 200€
is ATH-M50X still GOAT for their price? it's been like 5 years and still no challenger
>>53973007
SHP9500
>>53973119
why those when the m40x are better?
>>53973134
My ear looks like it's going to hit the driver
>>53973134
The SPH9500 are a worse X2
The X2 are shit
Why would you recommend this?
>>53973219
because the X2s are better than the HD600 so if the SHP9500 are worse than the X2s then they are equal to the HD600 which you guys praise.
Why is there no analogue portable media players? Only digital? Its really upsetting because digital is supposed to be only a vague approximation of the original sound's wave form, which can only be captured by analog media.
>>53973264
>>53973362
(you)
Holy crap, I cannot recommend getting an M40x in Canada now unless you can find a big discount. Regular price rose by ~$50 here since I bought one in 2014.
just got these, loving them so far. I never thought I could wear iems because my ears are weird, and they usually fall out, but the ear raping of the etys negates that occurence.
highly recommended if you like lots of detail.
Does anyone have any experience with amazon warehouse?
>>53972287
sph9500
>>>53912441
AAAAAARRRGGGGGUUUHHHH
AMFUCKINGPERIOR SUPERIOR GAAGGGH
ION TTUSB05
can anyone tell me if this is shit or not? and why if so. I found it used irl and im wondering if i should pick it up.
anyone have experience with Sennheiser HD439's?
>>53969844
Anything with enough voltage but you'll need to know the sensitivity of the headphones. O2 will do it.
>>53969868
I don't. Those who think they do don't either.
>>53973686
Yes, hit and miss.
>>53973541
Yup they are amazing.
>>53974301
>Yes, hit and miss.
Do you have any idea for how long do items stay in the amazon warehouse? Is it possible that I could buy something used that's been there for over a year?
>>53974324
I have only experience as a buyer, I don't know about their logistics.
>>53968512
bought em today, specifically for nosie cancelling thx /hpg/
>>53973714
These are cheep enough, i guess it could work just fine, it's just for casual gaming anyway, thanks Anon.
>>53971556
how hard is it to remove the pads and put new ones on?
>>53974596
Not him, but the M40X pads come off pretty easily and the HM5 pads need some manhandling in order to go on.
>>53974830
Zeos says that replacing the pads for HM5 pads makes them more bassy which defeats the purpose of getting M40Xs .
>>53974859
He asked how hard it was to replace the pads.
I answered.
Also you don't have to use pleather HM5 pads, velours and hybrids also exist and change the sound in different ways.
>>53964606
>wireless is frowned upon
You cucks will be singing a different song when Apple improves the industry.
>>53975231
Yep. HPG is so adamant to anything that contradicts their perspective that they even REFUSE advice from knowledgeable folk like Zeos and Tyll.
>>53975231
One of the biggest problem (if not THE biggest problem) with wireless is the necessity of proprietary technology. That problem will be fixed by a company infamous for private garden proprietary technology.
>>53975231
>You will like something when it stops being bad
Thanks Captain, it wasn't obvious enough before.
>>53968347
Incorrect. It is possible with ear plug molds; you simply integrate your IEM into the mold while its setting.
Not as good as a pro job perhaps, but its something.
>>53975291
>knowledgeable folk like Zeos
Come on now.
yo any1 have a guide on how to put a modmic on a Beyerdynamic DT-990-Pro-250. and what mic to use??
>went around shops looking for headphones covering the entire ear
>either 20 bucks pieces of shit, wireless or $180
What happened, a few years ago there were plenty
>>53974596
you have to manhandle them but it's not really that hard once you realize the pads stretch. They've added a little more bass, mids might be a little veiled, idk. I think they sound a little better. There's a layer of foam in the original pads that comes out that I had to put behind the new ones or else cymbals would stab my ears. After that it was all good. I'm really happy with it.
>>53974859
Who gives a fuck what that fat faggot says? He doesn't provide any actual data in his reviews anyways, there's no technical basis in what he tells you. He rants about stupid shit. Yes, they're slightly more bassy, but it's not nigger bass. It just gives it a little more impact. There's nothing wrong with that if your headphones are more comfy.
>>53972974
>K702
>not good
nice bait
>>53975231
more bait
>>53976626
>>53976658
>replying to bait
>>53976672
is letting retard know that you are not falling for their shit stupid?
>>53976626
>>53976658
Just ignore it Anon, no reason to link those posts and prompt others to reply as well.
>>53976626
>>53976658
>>53976672
>>53976698
>>53976702
>>53976710
>>53976722
Back to headphones, shall we?
>>53976626
the hd600 have much lower thd and resonance compared to the k702.
so yes, the k702 is shit
>>53969117
I want those pads so bad.
>>53976802
20 bucks on Amazon
>>53976785
>implying thd is noticeable on that level
Are you just trolling or are you really just that stupid sennshill?
>>53976834
Don't forget the HD600 is over a hundred eurobucks more expensive.
>>53976785
>He thinks the HD600 is good
lol
>>53976870
>100 yurobucks more for a shittier headphone
top kek
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK702.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf
>>53976834
>>53976870
Im just saying the hd600 measures considerably better than anything in its pricerange
>>53976888
The K702 measures better and is cheaper just leave this thread now sennfag
>>53976888
In certain parts of the world, the K702 is not in the HD600's price range at all though.
>>53976902
The only place that the K702 is more expensive is shitpostland and CURRENT YEARland
>>53976901
It measures SLIGHTLY SLIGHTLY better in fr response but in other things like csd and thd(the things that actually matter) the hd600 beats its
>>53976925
>>53976902
But it is just because the K702 is worth the price to be more than the HD600.
>>53976902
>>53976901
>>53976888
>>53976884
>>53976873
>>53976870
>>53976834
>>53976785
>>53976626
You faggots should just get the T50RP Mk3.
Holyfuck why is /hpg/ so dense. The K702 and HD600 are ancient 90s headphones, get on with the times already and stop comparing two shit headphones. Literally apples to apples.
>>53976955
Fuck off zeosfag not even the sennfags fall for your shitty fotm memes.
>>53976970
http://www.kenrockwell.com/audio/akg/k702.htm
Not even a zeos fan, this article proves the K702 are memes.
>>53976935
>shit that is not perceivable and only people with complete autism care about
The fr is far better as well as the driver matching
>>53976935
>CSD and THD > FR
>>53976985
>kenrockwell.com
what
>>53976989
>sennheiser user pulling out FR bs
Why am i not surprised. Have you actually listened to the headphones? FR isn't as important as you think.
>>53976998
Hes just trying to make himself feel better about his overpriced 90's memes nothing new here.
>>53977007
It's a review you mong, read it.
>>53977017
Im saying the FR and driver matching is better on the K702 smart one
>>53977033
>review by some meiningless site that i have never heard of
baseless shit no one cares you shitposting faggot
>>53964700
Do you just love to have shit taste in everything or is this b8?
>>53976998
CSD > FR >>> THD
>>53977069
>15 hours later
>>53977053
>some meaningless site
>never heard of it
I guess this goes to show how much research you do. Please leave.
>>53976998
It is, you can get resonance in 6khz and 2khz and that will make a headphone sound compressed and will not show on the fr graph at all abd thats something that cannot be eq'd out
>>53977089
kys faggot
>>53976985
I trust this dude on headphones even less than with cameras.
>>53977101
>Twice now
kek, you just can't handle people calling on your bullshit, can you? Grow up.
>>53977097
Can you stop stimming i cant understand this autistic gibberish.
>Budget
300 usd
>Location
Mexico
>Source
Xperia C5
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM´s
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy
>Preferred music
EDM, Metal
>Past headphones
Shure SE215, Bluebuds X and X2, DT770
>>53977097
>headphone sound compressed
What does that even means? Honestly curious.
>>53977131
Im so sorry you are fucking retarded
>>53977133
T50RP Mk.3.
>mfw you faggots arguing over HD600, K702, and T50RP Mk.3's and I'm sitting here satisfied with my current headphones, observing the shitstorm caused by zeoshills
Why not enjoy your headphones instead of replying to bait, anons?
>>53977199
Tell me anon, what are your current headphones?
>>53977199
Because i can do both. I enjoy listening to my T50RP Mk3s while proving sennshills and akg drones wrong every time. Feels good to be well informed. It's like sennshills and akgdrones just parrot old audiophile dribble from 10 years ago that's easily disproved with todays standards.
>>53977199
Zeos is a fucking idiot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45dU4WnD_LA&app=desktop
Zeos review
Vs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWlHA56HcS4&app=desktop
Someone who actually knows what they are talking about
>>53977157
>T50RP Mk.3.
IEM
Kek
>>53977228
>trusting an aussie shitposter
lmao.
>>53977199
I'm sitting here, listening to my modded T20RP Mk3s, enjoying the shitshow.
>>53977199
Im here listening to my apple earpods and laughing at you cucks who actually think you can judge the difference in sound
>>53977228
>he recommends bose over sonys
wow, and this is the person who is supposed to be better than zeos? are you stupid?
>>53977199
Just lsitening to some Jazz here and trying to write while the thread slowly bumps to limit.
Imho people just enjoy being antagonistic, hell, i know some channels on youtube that are entirely devoted to hating stuff, it's really weird.
>>53977225
I'm >>53969117
I've been enjoying the new pads and shitshow all afternoon.
>>53977227
I want to try the Mk3's at some point but I'm not going to be enthused just because some fat faggot on the internet is sperging out about them. If I get any more headphones any time soon it will probably be Sony MDR-1A's.
I really like closed headphones for some reason.
>>53977228
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45dU4WnD_LA
Damn those are some yellow HD650s.
>>53977304
Zeos gave the sony's really good praise. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
>>53969477
I think you could have priced matched this MSR7 from wireless1.
MSR7 >>>>>>>>>> Earpods > M50X
>>53977304
The 1A and 1R are no different but the 1R is much cheaper
>>53977308
Stop shilling
>>53977359
Do you have some natural knee jerk reaction to shitpost or did you have to develop it over numerous threads?
Nothing was posted that suggested quality or popularity or anything nice about them and yet you still respond with a shitpost anyway. Why did you even bother to respond to the post?
>>53977199
>implying we're not trolling, taking bait, and typing with our cheetos-covered fingers while enjoying our headphones with shitty music
Please learn to multitask.
>>53977320
$0.05 has been deposited into your account, shill
>>53977336
haven't googled it yet, know anywhere off the top of your head where I can compare measurements? I was looking at the 1R over the MSR7 because Sony's are typically warmer (and comfy) and I've heard the MSR7 is essentially a reshelled and more neutral M50x. Also my Audio Technica's weren't comfortable for the first month or two.
Is there any legitimacy to the idea that some headphones need to be "driven well" to sound good, or is it safe to assume that headphones that get loud enough are performing their best?
>>53977097
CSD is just the Fourier transform of the FR. How does it surface any resonant property that can't be captured in the equivalent FR curve? They are two sides of the same coin.
>>53977421
The latter. If amplifiers sound different anyway how can you identify 'driven well'?
>>53977421
yes, specially AKGs since you need a heavy amp to make them sound okay.
>>53977509
stop shitposting
NEW THREAD
>>53977540
>>53977540
>>53977540
>>53977421
Some amps are better than other yes, but it not a huge difference
>>53977421
I've found some headphones with portables get "loud enough" at the upper volume levels but they sound better with an amp at about the same listening level. The HD650 and the Q701s were a couple of examples.
>>53976998
>>53977080
what is CSD?
>>53978512
Cumulative Spectral Decay.
>>53978545
>Cumulative Spectral Decay
seeing one right now, what does time show here? resonance on certain frequencies or something?
>>53978644
An alternate way to look at CSDs is a chart showing how a system stores and outputs energy as depending on frequency.
A resonance stores energy longer at some frequency, and is also given to increased sensitivity at that same frequency. This translates to peaks in the charts that you normally see.
>>53978790
So much audiophile memetry in one post i can't... even... fuuuuuuck.....
>>53978790
so, the less the peak through time = less resonance on that frequency? or did i misunderstand?
>>53978843
Kinda. Saying "less resonance on that frequency" is a little ambiguous.
There are a few things that describe a resonator: the frequency, the intensity, and the Q factor.
The intensity would be how high or low the peaks are.
How the energy is stored is described by Q factor. The higher the Q, the longer the input energy is stored. The width of the peak is narrower at the same time.
>>53971997
Does your computer not have s/pdif?
Why do you want to use HDMI audio?
What is the receiver you were looking at?
Yes you would probably notice the input lag, like when using a projector for gaming.
>>53977421
Ideally if the amp has good jacks and enough power you could power anything from it. You don't need a three thousand dollar piece of equipment to get clean amplification.
Which pistons and off which site should I buy?
>lost 3 earbuds in two months
>going insane from silence on the bus
>cancuckland
Hey guys eh, my M50's headband have gotten all flaky over the years, and the earpad too but I can see it lasting for a couple more years.
Where can I find cheap wrapover headbands? And earpads?
>>53980946
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121780905571
+
New pads
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