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>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
And now that there's a thread up, are these any good?
>>53894111
Well they're extreme.
Hd598se
>>53894111
I'd steer clear just from the marketing on the box. How much you want to bet more was spent on the box than on the headphones themselves?
Holy fucking shit. Closed EL8.
>>53894492
Similar response to the open EL-8.
>>53894523
Well they didn't change anything other than closing it but the dip got steeper.
>>53894384
>idoltrash
haha
Hia
I need real music in my life.
One can keep listening to the same 50 or so albums but only for so long.
>>53893478
And yet the perceived result of frequency response such as the ones in the graph is not exactly bright and bass is there albeit rolled off. HD 600 sometimes described to be warm sounding.
The AKG K702 measurement looks off there. The rise slightly above 2kHz is too smooth and not large enough in magnitude and the peak in treble is in the right spot but also bit too low. The standard K7-series(excluding K712) is bright and bass light.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/248983394/ossic-x-the-first-3d-audio-headphones-calibrated-t
asdasd
Thoughts? Currently have a MTH-50X
>>53894464
Yeah. Digging up what info on them I could, the series seems to suffer from doing everything it can to force the bass. And that means quality is shit and the mids and highs all melt together into a slurry in favor of boom boom.
Also, I'm too tired to be typing.
Gonna pick up an amp tomorrow and might audition some things while I'm at it. Mainly interested in the HE-X, maybe K812 as well to see how shit they actually are.
>>53894492
-30db between 6~7k wtf? Do these headphones produce only bass and nothing else?
>>53895188
Let's see.
>Multiple drivers
>Wireless
>Microphone
>"""""calibration"""""
It's shit. What makes it any different from any gaymen headset?
>Hear your music exactly as the artist intended.
Top kek. Bet this is gonna be a muddy bass cannon.
>>53894801
same headphones here :)
>Budget
140$ (+/- 30$)
>Location
Switzerland
>Source
3.5mm standard output of the motherboard / Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized, over-ear
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
very comfy, ~3-4 hours
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
canyon cnr-hs1 (some cheap shit i got years ago as a present)
I also own a pair of studio monitors (M-Audio BX8 D2)
>>53895188
>HRTF
>four drivers per ear
Literally why? Humans have good positional hearing using just two ears, so two drivers is all that's needed. Even more so if they're using automatic HRTF calibration, which is supposed to eliminate the need for directional sound in the first place. My HD800's produce all the space and positional accuracy I could ever want even without HRTF.
>that moment when you buy used etys from amazon warehouse deals and they are full of earwax and smell like somali incense
When you get new headphones is it true that you have to let them "burn in" by playing music for like 100 hours or something?
>>53895870
It's bs. If burn in exists it's probably gone within a few minutes of listening to something.
>>53895870
Depends on the headphone. The most infamous is likely the AGK K701. Supposedly burn-in is 200-500 hours.
>visit friend
>we've never talked headphones before
>she just has hd800 out of nowhere
I was too awkward to ask to try it
>>53895742
>Considering used in ears ever
>Especially fuck my ears deep insertion Etys
>>53895870
no.
>>53895892
no.
>>53895918
max beta
>>53896209
no what?
do these suck for portable?
http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-Custom-Accessory-Remote-Microphone/dp/B00U86RBU8/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1459941044&sr=1-1&keywords=custom+one+pro
>>53896283
Just get MSR7.
>>53896222
No as in as drive physically changing its shape and mechanical properties over use is not a thing. And no as in burn in taking some arbitrary amount of time to take effect.
>>53896297
what about the dt 770 32ohms?
>>53896206
Used in-ears are fine if they have removable tips, filters and wax guard. Not cleaning in ears before selling them forward is disgusting tho.
>>53896331
Why so insistent on getting a Beyer? No, 770 is not good for portable.
Unless you would like to have a non detachable 3m coiled cable hanging out of your pocket, just get MSR7.
>>53896368
i´ll try, the MSR7 is really hard to get on my country thanks
>>53894106
Guys my brother is being recommended the Fostex T50 RPs and now he's wondering about the fully open version too, both are around £120 from amazon.
He was told that they're better than the 702s but I'm sure people on here don't rate these fostex headphones?, I have no idea about them.
>>53896308
And I supposed you have some citation to support your position? I'd cite Tyll as an expert, an authority on headphones due to his varied and wide experience over the years and he has made it known his position in regards to burn-in.
How fragile is the ATM 50X for travel in a backpack and possibly being crushed
>>53896283
If you can spring a Grant from your wallet then get the Sennheiser HD25 II-1.
>>53894111
I s a w those at sears, they are made from the cheapest plastic possible and will break from you putting them on
>>53896544
There are anons here more knowledgeable than Tyll on subjects he talks about and even I can prove him wrong on some accounts. I can try to find some burn in "test" results but the problem with the entire "burn in" concept is that it's very hard to measure and nobody has proven it to exist in the first place making disproving this probable phenomenom rather pointless and not a task for the "sceptics" for the lack of a better word. Not to mention it doesn't really make any sense either given the materials and size of the transducers used.
Tyll's methodology was flawed with the K701 "tests" he conducted as there were external variables known to have effects on the sound which weren't controlled, mainly the transducer's proximity changing due to pad deformation. Despite this the results he got were all well within one dB at a single point of the response making the differences practically inaudible even if they were there and caused by burn in.
I had one of these things (tascam US-144) in a box where I had left it since 2009 (when 64-bit windows support was broken). I've now started using it again with Windows 7, and it has been generally quite pleasant--at least still way cleaner than the motherboard sound.
Anyway, I was just wondering if someone has used one of these with Linux recently, and if so, how hard was it to get working properly. I remember back in 2009-2010 it was more or less unsupported.
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>>53892633
>>53895162
>>53893464
>>53896924
forgot image
I'm probably a horrible person.
New headphones are something I need, though.
>>53896796
Burn-in must be some sort of myth, I think any self-respecting audio engineer would commit sudoku if their product left the labs and ended up sounding different in the consumer's hands, especially if it's high-end. The very concept of burn-in would assume performance drift over time, and that means speakers/headphones that would sound differently depending on what kind of music they had playing, and that's what I would consider a mechanical failure of the device. We already had analog devices, primarily based on tube technology, like cameras and televisions, whose performance would drift over time, and that's not something I'd like to come back to or see with rose-colored glasses again.
What you ARE supposed to do is get used to the way your audio gear sounds. If you only spent 5 minutes with a new piece of gear, it might not immediately seem any better or even different that what you're used to, and I would say it's natural, like with being a connoisseur of anything. Photographers immediately notice technical aspects of images, musicians can tell when the music isn't right even if it sounds "good enough", and so on and so forth - people trained on something can always better appreciate it's finer points. This is something I've noticed all throughout my upgrade path as I've moved through better gear; new thing arrives, doesn't seem that much better or all that great, a week or two later I go back to the old one and wonder how I ever tolerated it. And not just with audio gear, but other things too, like cameras, even though visual quality is a much easier thing to objectify. Even so, when I'd buy a better camera I'd be like 'hey this isn't so different, but years down the line I would feel disgusted to use my old rabble and wonder how I managed to get any good photographs with it.
Hurry and join the fostex massdrop!
>>53897122
> headset
>>53896659
you mean these?
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD25-1-II-Closed-Back-Headphones/dp/B000TDZOXG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1459949072&sr=8-1&keywords=HD25+II
does it have good noise isolation from outside?
>Budget - 500 $
>Location - Poland
>Source - looking also for amp
>Preferred type of headphone - closed
>Comfort level - high
>Preferred tonal balance - skip
>Preferred music - classical
>Past headphones - siberia v3 prism
question: cad they play in 5.1 for gaming ?
>>53898122
amp not included in budget
Just got my Superlux HD681 EVO. Immediately replaced the earpads with the velour pads. Sounds pretty good for €30. Little bit too much bass for my taste maybe.
I heard there's a foam mod to reduce excessive bass a bit or something?
>>53894106
How hard it is to link the old thread you imbecile?
>>53872952
>>53898552
I wasn't in the old thread and it was already dead.
>>53898122
>500
>Poland
Come on Wszekej, You are king of Pooland now, you can buy mansion and get best kurwas with that money in Pooland
Good morning /hpg/, what are you guy up to?
>>53894111
lol, reminds me this receiver+speakers set i saw once in front of a store, nothing but bass coming out of it, came closer to check it out, it had a freaking buttom called "BASS BAZOOKA".
>>53894755
Sup.
>>53894801
I like you stuff.
About the music, have you tried albums from different artists of the general same genre? It's an easy way to branch out.
>>53897122
>Six Degrees
Not bad, need to listen to the rest though.
>>53898543
There are some mods but an equalizer does the same thing more accurately and with less effort.
>>53898122
Fostex TH X00 purpleheart
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00-purpleheart-headphones
If I buy HD201 can you hear the distortion?
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD201.pdf
>>53899173
On loud volume likely yes.
>>53899222
What are the tells? I mean what am I supposed to recognize? Is it scratchy noises like scanning stations on the radio?
Are the bose queitcomfort any good? Every review site I see shills these headphones really hard. Wondering if it's as good or if I should just get a sennheiser hd 598.
>>53894111
Looking up video reviews of those, every one is a Youtube video from a prepubescent child.
No wonder these things flopped.
>>53894111
For a second that looked like a magazine cover.
>>53899880
I can get them for $5 if I use up a voucher on them, is why I was curious. But even then, I'm unsure I'd get more joy out of them than the other pointless shit I was peering at.
>>53899865
please goys.
>>53900021
why?
>>53899865
do you need the noice cancelation because the HD 598 let every noice inside since there open
>>53896927
No subbass, bright and disgusting 2kHz AKG bump. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove with the graphs but since you don't know how to read them you're just doing yourself a disservice.
>>53900371
Fuck off and stop trying to shill that thing
>>53900374
>if it doesn't have veil its bright
lol sennfags fuck off
>>53900448
Stop shitposting in a weak attempt to argue the truth.
Ok boys im in need of some new in ear headphones, my shure se215ltd's are at the end of their life so i want to upgrade. Budget is anything under $225. Reccomendations/ experiences are appreciated.
>>53900457
The truth is the HD598 is overpriced and over rated and just about everything sennhiser makes is veiled except the HD800 and IE80 just to name a few
>>53900714
I didn't mention the HD598.
>>53899865
Bose QCs are literally good for only one thing and that's noise cancellation, which is what makes them the only Bose product even worth considering since better companies haven't offered alternatives.
If you constantly travel on noisy commutes or long distance like air, then you can get some semblance of audio through them vs. trying to use conventional cans, but getting some nice IEMs would be the better long-term investment, since they can be used to actually enjoy music.
Trying to create an in ear coupler correction plot to make these in-ear measurements more accurate. How does it look to anyone who can judge?
Classical music guy here with not a lot of expirence with headphones. I listen to mostly live orchestral and chamber music live at good venues. But I'm going to be away from a good philharmonic for a while.
I currently listen to my music at home with a decent stereo system (bose, I don't remember the models) that I inherited from my father. But due to upcoming circumstance I want be able to play it very frequently.
Any recommendations on a good headphone for orchestral music? Or is it pretty much going to be the same for any type of music?
I haven't posted in /hpg/ for about a year now, things have changed. For the better, mainly.
I made this, I love you guys.
>>53900515
Havi B3 Pro 1? GR07? Audiotechnica's IM line?
There are a lot of obscure microbrand IEMs that are interesting, look them up. Also the 215's are shit, gomen.
>>53898122
pinset dolcow? o kurwa chlopie bogacz pan jestes
Ale tak realnie, >>53898912
albo Fostex T50RP MK3
Amp = SMSL SD793
>>53901450
>haven't posted in /hpg/ for about a year
>things have changed for the better
correlation?
Just kidding, but yeah, a year ago the samefagging and shitposting was much greater, still i don't think the general ever saw a worst period than "Beyeremorse vs veilheiser" shitpostin, threads would die in a matter of hours thanks to all the samefagging.
>>53901602
I'm on the Shillheiser camp, in case you couldn't tell. There was also the whole hype train with etymotics being bad, and I never knew whether they were shit or not.
I have tried DT880's and ended up developing an absolute hatred for Beyer. Not even for the ear-rape treble, they fucked up the upper mids, which is why I'll hate them forever.
Does /hpg/ hate M50's now, by the way? I swear everyone was hyping them here but now we're actually disliking them.
>>53894106
Would the fidelio x2 be a stupid upgrade from the 702?
If so whats's a nice upgrade on the 702?, something maybe with a touch more bass. No EQ involved.
>>53901450
Should have posted that yesterday when someone unboxed his new DT-1770s. He was full damage control in the thread, so much beyersremorse
>>53901840
>Shillheiser, in case you couldn't tell
I did, but meh, brand shilling/bashing is probably the most boring aspect of these thread as it adds nothing to any discussion, most of the time i just ignore it. (I'm ok with both brands, not that ir matters)
About the M50, the M50X got expensive enough that people started hating it and going for the alternatives, i believe the prices are lower now, but by now posters just hate it anyway, many don't even know why and just blame it on the bassy FR alone even though that was one of the things /hpg/ liked in it a few years ago...
Very specifically, what are some good cheapies that stay on and don't have any sound cancelling or blocking effectiveness? I need headphones for running that won't lead to me being hit by a truck. Preferably with a remote and in-line mic. But classic earbuds with an in-line mic are rare as hell. And hard to find since people don't get the dif between earbuds and IEMs.
>>53896796
You'll excuse me if I scoff at your attempt to persuade me with only your opinion. You seem to act as if I should believe a complete stranger on the internet in any claim you make, from stating that burn-in is a myth (which is contradictory to my own experiences so I have no reason to believe you) to Tyll's lack of experience and expertise (you fail to provide any authoritative citation so again I have no reason to believe you).
All you've done is convince me that you have nothing but your own opinion to support your own opinion, i.e. you're talking out of your ass.
>>53901506
dzięki wiesz gdzie kupię to w polszy ?
>>53901506
i czy te słuchawki ogarną mi 5.1 / 7.1
>>53902360
nie wiem, ja w anglii :^)
>>53902515
w chuj z 5.1, 5.1/7.1 w sluchawkach = gowno maksymalne
hi my name is shit taste and I'll be your guide to the world of music
>>53900374
>No subbass
But they show more subbass than the HD600
>>53902535
ale da się na nich imitować 5.1 / 7.1 tak ?
>>53900374
>akg bright
>>53900448
>senn veiled
I just want neutral headphones
So guys, I've recently been debating between a pair recommended by a previous thread and a pair I thought about originally buying:
Takstar hi2050s (original pair) or a pair hyperx clouds (pair recommended). Does one sound distinctly better than the other? Is the microphone worth the tradeoff?
Any help is greatly appreciated
>>53902609
no nie, jak by mozesz procesowac przy jakies karcie dzwiekowej zeby zrobic wirtualny surround, albo np przy razer surround, ale nie ma nic takiego wbudowanego
>>53902693
czyli musiał bym mieć 2 pary słuchawek
do muzyki i filmów i gier.
These things any good?
>>53902661
I don't think the price difference is large, and besides that the SQ i think is nigh identical, same drivers at least
HyperX Clouds aren't bad at all.
>>53902757
o jezu
jesli sie usrasz na surround to moze, ale sa jakies tam pierdoly/dongle zeby miec symulacje 5.1 (podobne to co jest w headsetach, bo siberia nie ma realnego surrounda, sa 2 sluchawki i digital processing)
surround w grach tylko troche pomagaja, idz zalatw ze stereo i tyle
razerzone kropka com/gb-en/surround
>>53902661
As far as I know they are the same thing, So in that sense the hyper xclouds must be the best, or one of the best gaming headsets available, just buy them.
>>53902833
>>53902835
Thanks for the input!
What about Audio Technica m50x?
>>53902833
k dzięki za pomoc,
btw Audio-Technica ATH-M50x
co o nich myślisz ?
>>53902869
>>53902887
(EN) Everyone is very conflicted as of right now in terms of whether you should get them or not, but I would hold off as a lot of headphones in similar prices have surpassed them. They're the one step up from Beats. Notably the Audiotechnica MSR-7, or even the ATH-M40x, which have more subtle bass and highs. which sound cleaner, have more relaxed bass and have highs that are much more relaxed. M50's soundstage is very closed, treble is not relaxed at all and force details out at you. Not if you want a relaxed listen. For electronic/hip hop it might be slightly better, but I would not recommend. If you want a mastering can, the Shure 840 is what you want. ZeosPantera reviewed the MSR7 and the Shure 840, take a look.
(PL) Raczej nie rekomenduje. Treble sa mocne, basy sa za mocne, I akustyka jest do dupe, bardzo zamkniente sluchawki. Popatrz na M40x, Shure 840 (studiowe), albo Audiotechnica MSR-7 (portabilne, neutralne) ZeosPantera niezla (angielska) recenzje ma.
>>53901261
Any headphone with a "bright" fr.
Try K612
ATH-A550Z guys what about this ?
Just got my Dynamic Motion DM100s and I gotta say these headphones are like polished logs of shit.
They certainly look premium but the sound quality is horrible.
Soundstage is quite spacious for an IEM, however, the highs are too fucking harsh and the lows are virtually nonexistant. I find it hard to believe it's made by a company that specializes in making this shit when it sounds so bad.
>people who buy on-ear headphones
>not buying over-ear headphones
just fuck up my ears please
>>53903616
On-ears can be comfortable and the smaller cups make for a lot more mobility.
>>53903666
on ears are supremely un comfy famalam
>>53903884
Either your ears are unnaturally sensitive or you've never had comfortable on ears before. I have worn my Senn HD25II-1 for eight hour marathon studying periods without any discomfort.
>>53904014
All I have are porta pros and even on the loosest setting they suck
Has anybody here tried anything Soundmagic?
I've been looking at the E10, they got nice reviews but Im still undecisive
>>53904056
>you've never worn comfortable on ears before
Glad that was cleared up.
>>53904014
Not him, every review i see about those says they do a lot of presure
>>53904129
I dont think they exists
>>53904130
What do a lot of pressure? Portapros?
>>53904176
No the HD25 1 II
>>53904203
no one would pay $250 for on ears
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD25-1-II-Closed-Back-Headphones/dp/B000TDZOXG
>>53904203
Got a link to these reviews? I've had this pair for about six years and never had a problem with the clamp.
>>53904253
To be honest i think it were like 2 random ones on headfi, is your head big? Do they truly keep the noise out?
>>53904222
Well these are suposed to be really good at isolation, and have a nice sound for a portable headphone
>>53904287
You mean like:
http://www.head-fi.org/products/sennheiser-hd-25-1-ii-professional-headphone/reviews
In almost every review they note the headband loosens over time.
> On a note of the clamping force, the frame needs to burn in, so that the force loosens and optimum comfort is achieved.
Then there is a mix of those who say:
>The clamping force of this headphone can quickly fatigue anyone who is not used to On Ear Headphones. Moreover, the pads tend are sweat magnets, especially if it’s hot whereever you are. The HD 25-1 II will work flawlessly within reasonable temperatures, I’ve used them outside as low as 15 an as hot as 107. Though, at hotter temperatures it does get sweaty and at colder temperatures it can be a little painful on the ears.
To those who say:
>The split-headband design allows for both a secure and comfortable fit, perfect for lengthy listening sessions.
Maybe there was a bit of clamp the first few times I wore it but after this long it's perfect.
>>53904287
>Do they truly keep the noise out?
Forgot to get to this part.
Used on busy buses, noisy airplanes, etc. Yes, with the pleather cups they keep noise out (other than the engine vibrations which nothing can keep out). I think they're measured at 25dbs of isolation. But they also come with velour pads which are more comfortable but halve the isolation. It is nowhere near as good with the velour pads.
Would it be worth it to "upgrade" my 15 years old speakers with cheap but recent ones (pic potentially related)?
They were bundled with my old ass hifi system (Daewoo ami-208mc): they sound kinda ass but they still work after all these years (they did made a strange hissing sound last week though but it only lasted a day for some reason).
>Budget
$150-$200
>Location
Australia
>Source
Computer mobo
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size over ear
>Open or closed
I don't really mind either way, closed would be preferred but if there is an open option thats marginally better that'd be ok
>Comfort level
very comfy I'd spend way too much time with these on 4+ hours or so
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
i'm using Sennheiser HD439
I was looking at getting ATH-M50X, are they still the go-to headset
>>53905903
ATH-M50X are not neutral, if you can get the AKG K550 then go ahead, if you find the ath-mrs7 used or in your budget would be better
>>53905952
desu man i don't really mind about the tonal balance I missed the part where it said optional
So I sold my M50X's with hm5 pads and now I regret it. Whats my next move?
>>53906021
if you are used to the HD439 bass and want to somewhat keep it while you get better but not overwelming highs then go for the M50X
>>53906057
what did you buy?
>>53906177
nothing
>>53906136
Alrighty, the only reason i'm getting rid of these 439's is that the band snapped and I was thinking of upgrading, they've served me well for the past two years
>>53906198
M70X
>>53901870
x2 has a fair amount of bass accentuated around 60~100Hz, most of the sub bass is close to the level of the mids.
The mids are recessed a fair bit, higher end mids from 1Khz+ are recessed even more so.
Treble is a bit lacking except where it peaks around 9~10Khz.
I don't mind my X2s but there are many people that dislike its sound signature. Haven't tried the K7xx, but is another alternative if you find the bass to be too much for your liking on the X2s.
Not that the X2s are basshead headphones by any means.
Any recommends for over the ear bluetooth headphones? No budget (dont go insane though).
>>53907674
Unless you absolutely need wireless, like your pet is fucking up everything, don't get wireless. It's all shit.
>>53907731
need it for gym / on the go use, i hate having wires everywhere. I have preference to over the ear, otherwise id have went jaybirds
>>53907752
Get a bluetooth adapter to work with wired over-ears.
How the fuck do you sift through all this information picking headphones?
I've been looking at the CSD graphs on changstar and only feel less confident in what I want to get by the minute..
Where's that webm of a guy having an orgasm from using headphones?
>>53908821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQ
>>53896283
They're shit.
If you want portable headphones with a mic and control button,
1) get literally any decent headphones with a removable cable
2) also get this http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-1-Button-SpeakEasy-Cable-Red/dp/B00MYTRFJE/
>>53908821
It's the opposite. Tyll is cringing because of how shit they were.
>>53904222
These were $200 5 years ago. Why have the prices gone up?
>>53908821
>every day there's another retard who thinks he's enjoying them and not the opposite
>>53909041
>>53909283
Maybe Tyll is a masochist.
What should I think about going for if I liked the m50x but desire a slightly bassier tonal balance? I lost them, by the way.
Should I just get new m50x's and equalize it to taste? I was thinking about the DT-770s which seem to have the tonal balance I describe but everyone here seems to say Beyerdynamic is shit so I don't know what the hell to do. What other options are there to consider?
>>53909296
>a slightly bassier tonal balance?
my sides
>>53909314
If there's something wrong with what I said, could you offer a brief explanation rather than spending that time to mock me instead?
>>53909296
you can try the v-moda m100 or the dt-770
>>53909296
Not everyone here thinks Beyerdynamic is shit, i for once like the DT770 better than the M50, both soundwise and and comfortwise.
>>53909296
>I describe but everyone here seems to say Beyerdynamic is shit
One K702 shill is not 'everyone here'.
The VE Monks have just been surpassed.
The Fiio EM3 is now the best low-priced memephone there is.
>mother's cat just ate my headphones
kill me
Anyone know of something ~$110, closed headphones? I listen to a lot of metal
Is it okay to buy Over-the-Ear headphones that have been used? I'm assuming you can just replace the pads + disinfect and have no problems with anything gross.
I would buy new but they are all asking for $30+ shipping whereas these used ones are less than $10 and the price is also lower.
>>53909441
Why would anyone ever buy earbuds? Like I understand if people can't handle Etys, but other IEMs like E10 with a shallow insert?
I will never understand.
HD800 vs k812?
which one should I get?
>>53909777
Everybody and their mother considers the K812 a mistake.
>>53909777
ARE YOU KIDDING ME
HD600 no doubt.
>>53909777
>k812
What a fucking mess
Is getting the 250 Ohm version of the DT-770 really worth the amp it needs? Does the 32 Ohm one really fuck up the bass that bad?
>>53894111
Wow 2 X's man like holy shit this thing must really hardcore. I'm gonna tell Mom to buy me one of these do they come in green so it matches my epic razer gaming laptop?
>>53909777
Try both but k812 is a flop.
>tfw your X2's were the poor QC bunch and you didn't return them
feels pretty bad to be quite honest
>>53911234
must feel bad that you fell for the x2 meme. even tyll opened his eyes
>>53911234
I guess.
I've been using the M40x's a lot more recently. I'm pretty satisfied with what I have (except for the poor build quality of the X2's) but still feel the urge to buy more expensive headphones.
What do you guys think of the Brainwavz HM9? I hear they sound similar to Beats (hoping it's not true).
I'm not sure if I should get them because of the abundance of bass present, but from what I've heard they have great clarity and noise isolation for the money
>>53911275
If you want to endgame then just get Ether + amp and get on with your life.
>>53911421
>Ether
>endgame
lol Ether is midfi
>>53894384
>amnesiac instead of kid a
>good kid maad city instead of to pimp a butterfly
>crystal castles 2 instead of crystal castles
What's wrong with you?
>>53911633
Might pay to read what is says under 'albums'
Also GKMC > TPAB and II > CC anyway.
>Budget 250 $
>Location - poland
>Source - pc
>Preferred type of headphone - closed
>Comfort level - very high, im gonna use them 5+hrs
>Preferred tonal balance - neutral
>Preferred music - clasicall , nightcore
>Past headphones - stocksamsung galaxy s6
headphone should have detachable cabel
>>53909475
>not knowing how to repair your chewed cable.
Get a cheap soldering stick and ethernet cable or etc and 3.5mm diy jacks.
Got a silver Sennheiser Amperior for half off, did I do good senpais?
>>53912414
You might bring Amperior Superior anon back to life.
>>53911667
msr7
>>53909777
k812
>>53895656
k612
About to order a pair of sum TASCAM TH-02
Is gud?
I heard them get recommended here to an anon who had pretty much the same needs as me
Would it look weird to wear them outdoors as well, though?
>>53912591
They have very long delicate cables unless you make it short and using tape.
Why would you even get one for outdoor use? It's not that durable and I'm worried that the leatherette headband will peel and tear and everything looking awful.
Can you like. Get a in-ear, earpods or something? People with full-sized headphones outdoors are weird.
>>53912792
PM3 are pretty /effay/
>>53912848
If you want to look like a sperg JRPG fag, sure.
>>53912792
>>53912848
>>53912861
Ok, they gud for getting dem audio waves pumped into your brain-holes tho?
I have seen a lot of FR for closed headphones and every one of them does bad in highs between the 4khz to 6 or 7khz, why is that?
>>53912848
Oppo PM-3's ?
Know anything about the comfort?
Just had my Momentum Wireless overears stolen.
>>53913013
Pads were a little small but generally very comfortable, material used was nice but not user removable (can't use HM5s or anything like that). Could go maybe 5 hours straight with them.
What the fuck, apparently MSR7NC is a thing.
>>53909777
HD 800 out of those two easily. Can't see why anyone would consider wasting money on K812.
>>53910413
No and no.
>>53913012
Everything above 5k in any graph should be taken with a grain of salt. Lots of crazy shit happens up there and even TOTL headphones struggle there.
Does anyone have personal experience using superlux hd 668b (56 ohm impedance) on a mobile device? How much is quality/sound level affected on these? These are going to be my first headphones and don't really know what to expect. Will these be usable enough with my phone mp3 player?
>>53913664
Just tested them with my phone, they're fine.
Not the best headphones (the treble is killer on these), but for it's price I wouldn't go wrong. I put hifiman velours on them, and I would recommend you do so too.
>>53913600
What im seeing is if the HP has a lot of gain on the sub bass the highrange sufers more
>>53913722
Will do thank you
>>53895742
>>53896356
Don't in-ears have a globally limited lifespan? They're made to break or something.
>>53914295
Just like jewelry. If you leave your wristwatch or ring in a jewelry box or only wear them at home they'll last forever.
If you wear it outdoors. It's a no brainer your stuff will get scuffed, scratched or broken.
>>53914322
That's kind of what in-ears are for though. For all you know the previous owner kept them in his ass on the way to the volcano where they used them.
>Budget
$70
>Location
Sweet Czech Rep.
>Source
Computer
>Preff
Over ear
>Open-closed
Dunno, help
>Comfort
Max, like 10hrs
>Past headphones
None, just bunch of iems
I am thinking about Audio Technica ATH-AVA400, ATH-AVC500 or ATH-M30x
but I am kinda new in this /HPG/ stuff, so, advice would be nice. Dank.
>>53914394
M40x or bust. Some find them uncomfortable, I think they're fine.
Anyone remember LH Labs and their shitty Verb?
They sent out an e-mail for "free" IEMs, LH Labs 'VIBRATO' to make up for it but have the audacity to charge $15 for shipping when it would cost them at most $8 through USPS.
>>53914295
Not any more than electronics in general. Buy a quality pair and keep them well. They'll last for a long time. Most wearable parts are replaceable in good models.
>>53905423
Anyone?
Just ordered these. How much of a mistake did I make?
>decide to buy headphones
>wait one day to purchase
>price rises 15%
fuck me.
>>53894755
Dat moody blues
My nigga
What would /hpg/ suggest to gift a normie friend?
>Budget
$30. Can maybe go upto 35.
>Source
Mobile devices, computers too.
>Tonality
Neutralish.
>Past Headphones
ES18s
Don't really care about much else.
Bonus points if looks good
>>53915726
Depends. Are they 600ohm version? You did good. Are they any other ohm version? You did not so good, but ok
>>53914394
closed is for outside places with noise, it is a lot more resistant to windy-dust.
open always has much better sound, but let the outside noise in and can be damaged more easily if it gets liquids and dust on the open part. You should choose this if you only ear music inside your house or only game.
anyway, fot that budget is almost ever
HD558 for open and MDR 7506 for closed, if you already like audiotechnica then the M40X, maybe you´ll need more money but is worth it
>>53917754
250. But the differences are supposed to be more slight compared to the differences between the 32 ohm I've heard.
>>53917754
not him but
what amp you need to drive the 250 or the 600 ohms versions?
>>53917826
> 250
The fiio e10k can drive that to ear destroying levels on low gain
>600
I'm sure the same e10k can drive those just fine in high gain but maybe an o2 would be better, not sure
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>>53917754
>>53917806
For comparison
>>53899173
I'm gonna buy one of these for $15 later today and eq them.
>>53917873
im confusend with the ohm-less one, is 80 ohms or 250 ohms?
>>53917857
O2 struggles with the 250ohm DT880. Why do people think it's a powerful amp again? The amp in the SD-793II is much more powerful than the O2.
>>53917928
250 because it's the standard model, there is no 80ohm 880. The Pro model 880 and 990 are also 250ohm.
>>53917928
250, there isn't a 80 ohm version
>>53917931
Really? Mh, I might be mistaking something here then.
>>53917961
Well, to be fair I think the one I had was 1x/3x gain. 2 o'clock at high gain was listening volume with the 250ohm DT880.
Speaking of the e10k, would buying an O2+ODAC be worth the price, or would it be more of a small upgrade? I ask because I've owned the e10k for a while, it's capable of powering headphones such as the DT990 and the K612 Pro even on low gain and I'm wondering if the o2 would change how they sound or simply increase the volume?
>>53918109
Mr. Me And My Brother-fag said O2 sounded better than E10K. And then another anon said all amps are transparent and there's no difference.
>>53918150
did you blind test them?
>>53918150
And Zeos says the e10k is sterile
>>53918150
>person who paid money for x talks about how x is such an improvement
gee willy
>>53918171
>zeos
>opinions relevant
pick one
>>53918166
idk don't ask me
>>53918166
The brother-fags say they tasted blindly but I can also say I have a 10 inch dick, which I've actually measured
>>53918171
Good thing nobody takes him seriously.
>>53918214
they don't know how to blind test properly. they probably thought doing it blindfolded was 'blind testing'.
>>53918231
it´s kinda hard not? you have to make sure they have the exact same volume to be sure which sound better
>>53918281
you also need a randomizer and not just a switch to go between the two so you never know if A or B is playing.
ABX > DBT
>>53894106
So ladies and gents
I was thinking of a good pair of headphones for my home computer
Sadly, no soundcard although I'm not that picky so it doesn't matter.
I'm looking below £100 ($140) and thinking Sennheisers perhaps
Thoughts?
>>53918597
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00HVLUR54/ref=psdc_4222329031_t1_B00HVLUR86
Also thinking, maybe these
>>53918705
only get those if you're a masochist
best portable DAC for $300 usd?
>>53917873
I can't be the only one who thinks 250ohms looks better in the graphs.
>>53918767
It does. It looks better in Tyll's measurements too but there's too much unit variance in Beyer products for it to be conclusive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy5pzN-wLxg
>he bought a $850 DAC
>he doesn't even know what it's supposed to do
don't be this guy /hpg/
>>53918767
It seems the best yes.
>>53918902
>"Best headphones in the world"
>"HE 6"
>"i'm not sure i believe in audiophile dacs but i got one just in case"
Kek, this is some form of subtle humor, right?
Are the Brainwavz HM9 good?
Can anybody recommend me good replacements for the hd558's ? I really liked them but is there anything better for around 100-150 dollars? I liked open back and dont care for sound canceling and all that just what sounds the best.
AKG K702 or HD598? (or something else)
>>53919514
k702=DT880=HD600 > AD900X > HD558 > HD598
>>53919590
yes
>>53919590
>k702
no bass
>DT880
treble spike, shit mids
>HD600
no sub bass
>>53919590
maybe
>>53919660
>exagerations
>not offering alternatives
>no attempt to answer original poster in a constructive way
>>53919514
Dt 880 if you can eq the treble spike
>>53919660
You can't bass boost?
>>53919590
AKG K553 pro on massdrop
>>53919807
Not a bad call if Anon wants closed back.
>>53919752
I've tried a DT990 and the right pad starts to really hurt my hear after just an hour. I must have a retarded ear
>>53918597
Sennheiser hd 558 or Philips shp 9500. Takstar pro 80 or Sony mdr 7506 for closed back. That's as good as it can get at that price. If you can get a dt 770 pro 80 it would be a lot better though
>>53918759
Probably the Oppo HA-2, it has gotten a lot of positive feedback from around the web. I'm possibly thinking of getting one myself so I can drive high-impedance cans off my iPhone.
>>53919845
You need to use an EQ to lower the frequencies your particular ear make resonance with first, and lower the peaks if you want to flatten the FR, that way i gave my HD598 more sub bass
>>53919913
Impedance?
How manny channels does the EQ have?
>>53919942
It's not the frequency. It's the pad that starts to hurt my right hear
>>53919942
I think he was commenting on comfort, Anon.
>Budget
50-100$
>Location
NY, USA
>Source
Ipod 5th Gen and Samsung galaxy 5s
>Preferred type of headphone
No Earbud/In-ear. Everything else is fine.
>Open or closed
Closed, i hate listening to the noise on the bus.
>Comfort level
2-3 hours at a time.
>Preferred music
https://youtu.be/PTF5xgT-pm8
https://youtu.be/uiwllaWuSd8
https://youtu.be/X2qH1NEVUeU
>Past headphones
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sentry-Fat-Boy-Headphones/39577311
Help me, /g/.
>>53919966
Impedance is how much voltage is required to supply your headphones with power, you will end up with weak sound if your device can't push out enough.
What do you mean EQ? Portable DACs usually have just a bass or treble boost toggle.
>>53920367
Sorry my bad, i meant to ask for a portable player for 300 usd, i saw the portable dac is great for headphones up to 300ohms
>>53920367
What about headphone sensibility?
What's the difference between high sensitivity + high impedance vs low sensitivity + low impedance? Would it lead to the same result?
>>53920502
Impedance is the sensitivity; if it's low, your headphones will sound louder on a given device, if it's high, it will sound quieter. Some headphones have varying impedance throughout the frequency range, so a lack of power will screw with the sound.
>>53920634
But AKG headphones are hard as balls to drive and their impedance is very low. Fine example: K702.
Meanwhile the DT990 is easy to drive and it's 250 ohm
>>53920281
MDR 7506, also, see if you can get Auray sheep skin pads for better comfort and isolation.
>>53919807
How does the k553 compare to the Takstar pro80?
>>53919503
Not really, they are pretty good for the price but you can try a more fun v shape like dt 990 or the akg k 702 if you can stand little to no sub bass.
>>53920909
The k553 are more neutral, and are better made, now are on sale on massdrop, usually are at 200usd
>>53913237
nobody's reviewed it yet and it seems to be virtually identical except for that one feature
i'd wait on it if you were thinking of purchasing
>>53921128
How's the bass on it though? I want some phones with some bass but I don't mind if they're not bassy
>>53921183
The sub bass is great not overwhelming, i guess is the result of closing an akg HP you lose a little treb and gain bass
>>53921183
Flat and almost "planar like"
>>53917931
the fuck are you even talking about. the o2 can hit 7 volts. That's enough to a dt880 600 ohm to 110-115db.
keep in mind that the choice of dac and gain can ultimately limit your power output...and I assume that's what happened in your case.
>>53917931
>O2 struggles with the 250ohm DT880.
It doesn't, in fact it can make it deafening loud, no problems with HD600 (300ohms) either.
had these for 2 days now, was meant to replade my 1 year old QPad QH-90. but holyfuck they are plastic everything, they litterally have zero noise isolation etc etc, feel cheap. why the fuck is everyone giving them 5 stars?
no i am not brain damaged, i know what good sound sounds like, i own klipsch, have owned b&w, Dali.
and for 216$ these are worse than my 84$ Qpad QH-90
>store accepted my refund for these shitty headphones.
>beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80 Ohm
>first and last time buying beyer.
>>53922127
also extremely uncomfortable and hurts my ears after 1 hour. and the foam on the cups is from 90 year old cabin beds it feels like.
yo /g/entlemen, dumb question but are there any sub £/$ 100 headphones that do not let sound escape? Eg. If im walking i dont want the fag next to me be able to hear my music.
>>53922197
OP above you, i would recommend Qpad QH-90 Even though they are gaming centered. and would look stupid if you wore outside? but those bitches isolate better than fucking ear protection and sound great for a gaming headset.
>also removable mic
>pouch to hold them follows
>>53914418
>>53917802
I'm in a very similar position to >>53914394
Are amps and DACs something I should be looking at this early in the game?
>>53922127
>>53922148
>why the fuck is everyone giving them 5 stars?
Same reason you don't like it, >opinions
Can anyone recommend a good mini headphone extension cable.
It's basically to extend the life of my daily use headphones I was thinking a cable a few cm long would take the stress point og the headphone cable and put it onto something cheap and more replaceable
>>53922266
No, all three headphones i recommended dont need amp, you can use them with phone or portable player also if you dont know your prefered tone go for the hd558 or mdr 7506
>>53922266
Also DACs are only needed if your source sucks, like a damaged sound card or an old PC then again you dont need amp
>>53914394
NVX xpt100
Purchase advice please?
>Budget: <100USD
>Location: BurgerLAND
>Source: PC
>Closed
>Comfort level: Dont give a fuck
Mainly gaming, my speakers scare my fucking dog. Please halp.
anon with uneven hearing here
just wanted to say thanks to the other anon who suggested i go see an doctor, turns out i have a massive ear infection...7 days of strong antibiotics and i should be fine
>>53924365
Damn, it's a good thing you went to see a doctor, i hope you get better soon, Anon.
>>53924365
Well I have tinnitus
No cure for that...
28th of August, I don't think I slept that day, nor the week after.
>>53924497
Hypersensitivity is worse, to get any sleep I had to build basically a sound-proof room to sleep in, so I have my room and my "bedroom" now.
>>53899173
>>53917897
Got them. Sennheiser masterrace. It was chump change for $15. It's a pos but I'll eq it.
Who else /Sennheiser/ here? I have a pair of 1st gen Momentum over-ear in black,and I fucking love them.So comfy and well-made.
can someone id these headphones?
I happened upon some Piston 3s recently. What are these meme HD600 equalizer settings I've heard about? I don't have access to any HD600 headphones, so I can't just compare the damn things.
anyone have er4-pt?
Considering trying them out, used to have the hf5 but they flayed at the plug after a year.
>tax refunds
do i really need a 4th headphone
is this the slipperly slope
>>53926220
I own Etymotic. EK5, MK5, MC5 soon, ER4PT.
I will order a HF5 later today. I got the MC5 really cheap on ebay.
>>53924497
i feel you
not going to stop me from listening with my headphones, but I feel like my tinnitus acts up for an hour after listening even when I don't even have it up high.
eventually we'll have stem cells grow ourselves back in 50 years, right? Or at least some method to repair the ear cells. Gotta be positive.
>>53920658
>But AKG headphones are hard as balls to drive and their impedance is very low. Fine example: K702.
I still don't understand what this means
So I will have no problems getting the volume up high on a K702 because the impedance is low, but what does it mean if it's hard to drive? It's hard to compare and remember what the difference is between my E10K amp and my mobo sound (either my on-board sound is already decent or the E10K doesn't do much).
>>53920634
>Impedance is the sensitivity
Impedance and voltage sensitivity are two different things, retard.
>>53921916
HD600 are easier to drive than the 250ohm DT880.
>>53926220
When did you buy your HF5? Did it come with a white retail box or black retail box? I'm going to order one now.
>>53927048
Yeah, i guess you're, was only thinking about impedance at the moment, my mistake, the point about O2 being powerful enough for the DT880 250 ohms remains however.
>>53926331
Low impedance means more current, which means it's a harder load on the amplifier by default. Low voltage sensitivity means the headphones need a higher voltage to get to a certain SPL
>>53927158
Yes it may have been the default gain on the Head'n'Hifi combo, see >>53918029
>>53927116
black retail box and this was years ago
>m40x/m50x
>v6/7506
>dt770
>k550/553
Why is it so hard to find a closed headphones with detachable cables under $200-$300
>>53927271
Go for a pair of either Momentum over ears or Urbanite XL.And yes,get refurbished to save a little bit.
>>53927271
Yeah. Get momentum or urbanite xl. They sound as good as M50x's.
>>53927370
m50x sound terrible though
>>53927383
No they're not. Z Reviews says they are good for sound monitoring.
>>53927400
>everything about this post
i mean ignoring the fact that he hates them because they're shit this point is still so pathetic it's hilarious.
>>53927400
>>53927383
>>53927370
>>53927271
As long as we are suggesting (or not) bassy headphones, might as well suggest V-Moda, every model from them has detachable cable that Anon wants and at least the are as durable as Sony V6.
>>53897313
what's so great about them?
they are expensive ;_;
>>53927749
nothing, why do you think there is so much aggressive shilling going on for them
Looking to replace a pair of broken Sennheiser HD201s. Don't really want to spend more than $30. I was just thinking about buying a new pair, but is there anything better in that price range?
>>53927893
I'm actually looking at buying a pair of 201s. Are they any good for the price?
>>53927906
Yeah, I'm using them right now. Haha wtf >>53924543.
Stock frequency response ain't that bad. It sounds good. Horrible build quality though.
amzn.com/B00ELAM8NC
Yes? No?
Are there better IEMs at a similar price point or should I just get these?
>>53927931
>it sounds good
That's all I want. They're just replacing a $2 pair of in-ears.
Thanks!
>>53927943
That image is lewd.
>>53927906
I found something interesting. They're not the same but just look at it. Too bad Headroom measurements are different. I gotta try my HD600 and play around with the HD201's eq.
>>53895244
uhh m8 they hit -40db not -30
brb not buying overpriced placebo headphones
New thread:
>>53928814
>>53928814
>>53928814
>Location: Australia
>Budget: $1000AU
I know this isn't strictly thread relevant but it's the best place to ask.
I'm looking at getting an integrated amp and the Cambridge SR20 pops up as a good offer. It has a tuner, a wolfson 8728, digital in, and throws out 100w per channel. For $750 AU it seems like a great deal. Especially considering I need a headphone amplifier as my current system is limited to the outputs of my pc, and I'm looking to add a pair of 600ohm dt880.
What does /hpg/ think? Can I do better for the money? Or less?
>>53905423
Genius make cheap shit.
Your new cheap shit will sound as bad as the old cheap shit.
Spend more money + make better purchases = the right way to go.
>>53905903
Sony MDR-7506
Shure SRH840
Beyerdynamic dt440
Sennheiser hd598
>>53909296
Beyerdynamics sound great. If you don't have to wear them out and about consider the DT150. They sound like exactly what you're looking for.
>>53915726
>not the 600ohm version
Pretty big considering they're the same cost as the 250 ohm version.
>>53918902
>he bought a $850 DAC
Stop there. The nigger already done fucked up.
>>53922127
Having not heard the 770 I can't comment, but to say that all beyers suck because of one model is shitposting.
I had dt150's that were fucking awesome.
>>53922260
Don't listen to this guy.
Clearly just recommending you what he has, and the fact that he'd dismiss an entire brand because of one bad experience (with headphones he didn't even have for very long at all and clearly bought without auditioning) then his opinion can pretty much be discarded.
Look for anything with "active noise cancelling" not just noise isolation.
>>53925128
flashy trash
Look at the thin joint connecting his plastic headphones to the plastic headband.
All that stress on one tiny joint and it will break.
make my decisions for me /hpg/ i'm currently looking to buy IEMs for when i'm not in my house, tossing up between ATH-IM70 and SE215. Feel free to suggest anything else in their price range. Detachable cable is a must though and coming with a decent case is a bonus but not essential. I have a pair of Q701s at home and I like how they sound.
>>53929544
IM70. SE215 is a muddy mess.
