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>Wizard
wahey
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>>48024583
Gisa x geralf rule 34 when
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>a bickering couple of necromancers fighting off eldrazi horrors with their own undead hordes

sounds like the buddy comedy of the century
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>>48024620
Looks pretty good. 3 mana for a 4/4 that shocks every turn.
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>>48024575
For some reason I thought of a thing called Ludevic, Living Laboratory.

But Lude's would let a little thing like getting latticed into his lab stop his work, right?

Yes I was thinking of Legendary Land that flips into a Legendary Creature.
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>>48024634
>sounds like the buddy comedy of the century
Cold Guts?
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>>48024583
We won't get Ludevic but am I glad that they didn't just killed or cronenberged them
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>>48024620
First good vampire to come from Inewstrad.
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>>48024620
Holy shit fucking yes. Something to replace Avaricious Dragon post-rotation.
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>>48024672
How do we know? It does look like Geralf lost his husbando
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>>48024673
>Falkenrath Gorger
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>>48024583
>>48024656
>Gisa and Geralf working together
>Ludevic wants to bromance with Geralf through science

So Innistrad is going to be saved by a team of mad scientists and undead obsessed wizards?
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>>48024620

Hellbent is BAAAAAAACCCKK!!!!!!
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From the German VIRUS Magazine:

Haunted Dead 3B (Uncommon)
Creature - Zombie
When Haunted Dead enters the battlefield, put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying into play.
1B, discard two cards: Return Haunted Dead from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
2/2
Ingenious Skaab 2U (Common)
Creature - Zombie Horror
Prowess
U: Ingenious Skaab gets +1/-1 until end of turn.
2/3
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>>48024620
The first ability is literally Hellbent.
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>>48024700
Sure why not.
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>>48024708
>Haunted Dead 3B

If this is real I will literally shit my pants.
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>>48024620
FUCK
YES
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>>48024700
Considering the trailer showed Emrakul getting hounded by like a billion zombies, absolutely.
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>>48024700
I mean, we knew that as soon as we saw the trailer with Lili's hordes.

>>48024689
Fingers crossed. Geralf is great and all, but Ludevic has the B-Movie Frankenstein thing DOWN. He also did stuff other than zombies, which was cool.
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>>48024700
Liliana is shown attacking the Eldrazi with Zombies too. Imagine if the true heroes of the block were Ludevic, Liliana, Geralf, and Gisa with the greatest army of the dead seen in the multiverse.

On a different note, where are Innistrad's dragons this time around? I'm expecting at least one of them to turn up either undead or Eldrazi'd.
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>>48024725
It is.
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>>48024708
>that madness enabler
Nice.
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>>48024725
How so? Am I missing something?
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>>48024583
They are beautiful
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>>48024749
>that pose on the spirit

Literally a fucking stand.
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>>48024583
Cute. I have a soft spot for sibling love.
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>>48024759
It's really, really good in limited
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>>48024731
>>48024700
and Liliana
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>>48024759
>>48024778

Not just limited, he's nuts in madness decks too.
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>>48024749
DUSTERMOND
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>>48024745
Innistrad's Dragons were always criticized for daring to exist despite not fitting the aesthetic and with Dragons of Tarkir having just happened, I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of the few sets where we don't get a dragon.
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>>48024749
>düster means eldritch in german
The more you know
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>>48024583
Best UB commander.
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>>48024749
Man, Watercourser was already good. Making him have prowess and a common seems suspect.

>>48024783
>>48024778
Fair enough. Also, the idea of the spirit stuck haunting their own corpse is pretty sad.
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>>48024788
thats a dope ass name
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>>48024700
>>48024731
>>48024740
>"The the most obvious benefit of being a necromancer..."
>"...is that dead outnumber the living."
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>>48024749
Zombie girl a cute! Cute!
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>>48024800
It means Dark, there is no good translation of eldritch sadly.
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>>48024749
I'm going to play Haunted Dead.
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>>48024620
>play this
>next turn drop sire of insanity
Pretty spicy, this is shaping up to be a good set.
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>>48024800

It means gloomy, it's a cognate of English dusky.
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>>48024749
>You die
>You come back as a Spirit
>You find your dead body revived as a Zombie
>You have to watch Zombie you blunder around like a retard while you're powerless to stop it

Sounds fun.
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>>48024698
Gorger is cool but the ability is a lot worse than it looks in practice. If you're building a madness vampires deck, you want to pick the vamps that already have madness. Relying on having that one drop is asking for the deck to fall apart.
2/1 for R is good though so eh.
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>>48024700
It would actually be kind of fitting. They're the heroes Innistrad deserves.
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>>48024809
>Man, Watercourser was already good
No it wasn't.
It was barely average.
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>>48024862
I just meant the 2/1 for R. The ability is sweet if you get him off turn one though.
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>>48024583
>Wizards
>They can be turned into mega-Delvers by Final Iteration
Fucking hell, that's neat.
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>>48024749
>>48024858
I am loving the flavor on Haunted Dead.
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>>48024866
So if the Gatewatch is the Jacetice League...then are these guys the Doom Patrol (I couldn't think of a punny name, sorry.)
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>>48024791
Stained glass wings are sexy though.
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>>48024901
Excellent...
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>>48024869
I snagged them up in Limited. 2/3s are super important in most limited formats. Plus, forcing them to consider trading meant that you usually got through. I guess average is probably a better description. I felt they were solid. I never was upset picking them.

And yeah, spoiler, I'm not talking about constructed when discussing a common.
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>>48024843
Thank you for reminding me of that sweet card.
Time to make flashback control.
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>>48024620
ayy lmao
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>>48024901
POTTERY
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>>48024913
Gloom Patrol?
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>>48024944
that honestly looks like the face of a slightly chubby Asian man.
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>>48024944
I didn't realize tiago got to design another card.
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>>48024583

Cute.

Dumb question: "you may cast a Zombie", means you can only cast one zombie from your graveyard each turn, or as many as you'd like?
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>>48024913
...Legion of Doom.
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>>48024583
>During each of your turns, you may cast a Zombie creature card from your graveyard.

I'm an illiterate retard, so can someone help me understand how this works? Unless I am wrong, does it boil down to 'once a turn during your turns, you can play one zombie card from your graveyard as if you were playing it from your hand'?
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>>48024944
What the fuck?
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how many spoilers are they going to do a day? 5 seems a little slow for all 200 cards
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>>48024959
>>48024963
Pretty much, yes.
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>>48024944

>Wizards put LSV's waifu into the game
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>>48024952
Yes, just, yes.
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>>48024959
One zombie. Still a lot of value. Just don't expect to go off with Lightning Storm.
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>>48024749
STANDO POWER
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>>48024970
We've gotten six so far today.
Yesterday we got 13.
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>>48024959
>>48024963
On each of your turns, you can cast one Zombie from the yard. You have to pay mana costs, other costs, etc.
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I guess this will be the art on Lili's new PW card. Monday seems so far away.
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I like Geralf and Gisa a little less than Havengul Lich.
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>>48024944
Looks like an old Mongolian man.
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>>48025006
Pretty good, I just wish they'd stop hiding her tattoos.
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>>48024944
Good to see Wizards being inclusive towards the minority of chubby. baby faced, asian tranny looking vampires.
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>>48024944
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>>48025021
She broke the deal, those are scars
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>>48024999
>You have to pay mana costs, other costs, etc.
Hooray for Rooftop Storm.
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if there's a decent 1 drop for zombies prepare for relentless dead spike
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>>48025037
The marks on her skin were put there when she made her deal with Kothophed. They're not the result of her breaking her contract.
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>>48025029
Kek
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>>48025021
When it becomes plot-important, there will be some sort of 'Liliana, Veil-Cursed' card that's ridiculously expensive but powerful to boot. Expect it to have her covered in bleeding scarification.
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>>48025021
Her tattoos represent the link between her and the demons she made pacts with, Kothophed, Griselbrand, Razaketh, and Belzenlokm.

Kothophed and Griselbrand are both dead, so the link is weaker, which probably makes the tattoos easier to hide or just less glowy in general.
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>>48025029
Fucking lel, calling that card "BREKFAST" from now on.
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>>48024583

I like how their single cards can still be played and benefit the duo card.


Maybe I'll have to look into an EDH Zombie themed deck after all.
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>>48025006
At least you can sort of see them here, despite them being faint. Unlike loads of other Lili Art.

I guess since Origin's came out, Lili is stuck as a fair skinned, raven haired girl, you can't make the tattoos too dark without them looking weird.

No more Nubian looking Liliana. Also, just looked at all the Lili planeswalker cards, Steve Argyle's Of the Veil literally has no scars or tattoos. Was he just not informed?
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>>48024901
>the army of the damned marches on to meet Emrakul and her eldritch abominations
>Geralf and Illiana bolsters the rank and file of zombies to slow the Eldrazi's advance
>While Ludevic and Geralf unleashes their most prized creations, unliving siege weapons to spearhead the assault
>But no matter how many corpses are thrown against the true enemy, it was not enough and they were slowly losing ground
>Suddenly from the distance the weary necromancers could hear a faint buzzing, growing louder
>The skies of Innistrad were blotted out with the beating wings of human insects, lead by an visably eldrazi melded horror
>The defends prepare for the worse
>To their pleasant surprise the insect swarm dived on to Emrakul's tentacle hordes and the're advance was finally broken.
>"My word! The other stitchers, skaabarens, scholars and I thought you succumbed to the madness of your dark research Delver, what's with the sudden change of heart?"
>With a crackling and croaking laugh Delver retorted, "And let my fellow research colleagues fall when there is still more research collaborations to be done and darker secrets left unexplored?"
>Ludevic, Geralf and Delver's fists and chitinous appendages meet as one and shouts of SCIENCE echoed across the battlefield.
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>>48024913
The scAvengers?
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>>48024944
>>48025029
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>>48025114
Dark-looking Liliana was an experiment for one block. Otherwise, she's either be lily white, olive-skinned or had her skin obscured by a magical glow.
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>>48024749
Can someone translate this? I can't into reikspeil.
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>>48025158
earlier in the thread senpai
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>>48025062
I know. And when she broke the deal the tattoos turned to cuts and she nearly bled to death. They're scars senpai
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>>48025154
Fair. What block?

Remember this big piece? It is the only detailed pic of all the walkers and literally none of them look anything like their depiction here since the recons. Sorry that I couldn't find a larger image.
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>>48025114
>Steve Argyle's Of the Veil literally has no scars or tattoos. Was he just not informed?

She had just killed Kothophed at that point and I think they may have played with the idea of removing them entirely because of that.
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Ingenious Skaab
2U
Creature - Zombie Horror
Prowess

U: Ingenious Skaab gets +1/-1 until end of turn
2/3
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>>48025138
I love it!
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>>48025138
>Suddenly from the distance the weary necromancers could hear a faint buzzing, growing louder
>The skies of Innistrad were blotted out with the beating wings of human insects, lead by an visably eldrazi melded horror
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>>48025194
>tfw we get a block of every living Walker vs Phyrexia
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>Ludevic, Geralf and Delver's fists and chitinous appendages meet as one and shouts of SCIENCE echoed across the battlefield.

I never knew I wanted this so so badly.
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3B
Creature - Zombie
When Haunted Dead enters the battlefield, put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying into play.

1B, discard two cards: Return Haunted Dead from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.

2/2
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>>48025204
>Prowress it
>+1/-1 it
>Swing
>Beef it again if it's unblocked
GENIUS
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>>48025194
>elspeth
>sarkhan?

what the fuck is wrong with them.
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>>48024583
A friend brought up a good point: Gisa and Geralf is the only "couple" card that isn't Red.
Tibor and Lumia (2UR)
Anax and Cymede (1RW)
Pia and Karan Nalaar (2RR)
Mina and Denn, Wildborn (2RG)
It's interesting that Innistrad would have a pair team up out of colour.

>>48024831
>>48024844
>>48024800
DARKMOON
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>>48025194
Actually, I've been looking and she's never been dark-looking on any of her cards. The closest we've come to that is the olive-skinned look of Innistrad's Liliana of the Veil and Liliana's Caress.

That image is as dark as she has ever come. It's the only image in which you could consider her to be non-Caucasian. Even in all variations of Liliana of the Dark Realm and Liliana Vess, she looks mostly white beneath the ethereal purple glow that surrounds her (although it's admittedly hard to tell).
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>>48025204
Skaaberen just don't feel like skaabs when they don't mill or require you to discard or exile body parts.
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>>48025194
Garruk, Ajani, Chandra, Karn, and Koth all look roughly the same

Gideon seems pretty consistent

elspeth look a little bit older

Tezzeret, Jace, Sarkhan, Kiora, Nissa, and Sorin all look really weird
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>>48024979
Cheon is LSV's waifu?
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>>48025194
>Tezzeret looks like a fugly parrot man
>Sarkhan looks like a generic asian horror entity
>Elspeth has a HGH tier head
>Liliana looks ghetto trash mulatto

I'm glad that piece of shit art never had any bearing on designs, it's horrible.
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>>48025243
That's the only image in which Gideon looks like Bruce Willis.

His variation is from looking pretty Nordic in Rise of the Eldrazi to gradually becoming more and more Mediterranean as time has passed.
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>>48025228
>The more you prowess it, the more you can safely +1/-1 it
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>>48025223
Nicol Bolas seems to have plans for collaborating with Phyrexia somehow. He sent Tezzeret among them for a reason, even if Tezzeret is eager to resist him.
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>>48025138
/tg/ yet again comes up with better lore then Mtg ever can.
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>>48025277
Bolas becomes the new Father if Machines
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>>48024740
>>48024825
Geralf + Ludevic are OTP
Gisa and Oglor can pair the spares.
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>>48024583
Hahahah hell yes.
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>>48025235
thats a pretty good point. All of those other creatures, (except maybe Mina and Denn, I dont know) were married couples. Red is the color of love.

just a thought
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>>48025203
Hm. Idiots. Let's remove the only interesting part of her look! Maybe they thought artists couldn't draw it consistently?

>>48025229
Well, Sarkhan is an angry and insane Mongolian fucker and Elspeth... didn't really have an established look without her hood. I'll be honest, I still don't know what she is supposed to look like without it.

>>48025239
I dunno. Her body and facial type doesn't look very Caucasian on the original Vess and promo one. But what do I know? She's white as fuck now for sure.

Chandra's now even whiter than ever, since baby Chandra is super fucking ginger. There was some ambiguity before, but now? Not so much.

I don't care about whitewashing, I just wish these guys had a consistent and sensible look.
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>>48024960
>>48025146
>>48024913
I hate all of you so much.
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>tfw wizards will never make an enchantment or creature that has an activated ability of RG: Transform target werewolf
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>>48025311
>Chandra's now even whiter than ever
Despite having paki parents
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>>48025318
And we all love you too.
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>>48025213
>>48025138

>song related starts playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0DDY299Ly4
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>>48025328
Only one
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>>48025274
Nissa was also clearly Kristen Stewart looking in Rise. Not so much now.
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>>48025204
This card looks super fun to play with in limited. Will make combat a nightmare for the opponent.
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I just realized what the perfect next step would be for the Delver and his crew.
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>>48025343
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>>48025235
>>48025303
Red is the color of passion, so they're all pairs that fight together out of passion for one another.

Black is the color of self-interest and Blue is the color of logic, so Geralf and Gisa are a pair formed by the understanding that they need to work together for their own survival.
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>>48025311
They've had a couple arts of Elspeth without the hood.
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>>48025311
Too glowy and colorful to tell too much about the details but her facial structure strikes me as very European, has this sort of foreign femme-fatale look to it.
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>>48025321
What is moonmist?
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>>48025203
>>48025114
>>48025021
>>48025037
>>48025077
>>48025075
>>48025114
They aren't "tattoos". They're brands of power. They only show up when she's working her mojo. For instance, Liliana's Caress.

>>48025138
You meant Gisa and Liliana.
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>>48025328
If they didn't make baby Chandra a chubby faced pink ginger, it could have been passable. Pale Indians exist. Then have her red hair only show up with her powers manifest hardcore.
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>>48025243
>Gideon seems pretty consistent
Until they suddenly decided he was Greek and overnight he went from brown hair and tan skin to black hair and bronze skin. That was a fun retcon.
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>>48025363
She looks like she could have been meant to be Romani.
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>>48025243
>>48025194
>>48025274
>>48025379
>That's the only image in which Gideon looks like Bruce Willis.
I've always felt Hugh Jackman. Though I swear I'm thinking of someone else, too. I can hear his voice, but can't put a name to it.
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>>48025376
loli Chandra a cute
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>>48025243
>>48025229
This was when Sarkhan was in his dark period. When he was nutso.
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>>48025373
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/original-spin-2015-08-17

>And yes, for those who are unsure, that is Liliana in the art getting her "contract" (the full-body tattoos).

They're referred to as tattoos multiple times by official sources, anon. You can be pedantic if you want, but tattoos is an acceptable term for them and everyone knows what you mean when you say it.
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>>48025366
moonmist is good, but there needs to be a repeatable effect or more cards that have similar effects
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>>48025381
It's just the dress that looks that way. Go look at her flip card, and you'll see that she looks normal
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>>48025373
This, her patterns only show up when she is channeling mana and casting spells, which is why LotV and the Innistrad promo art of her sitting on a throne dipict her without the patterns.
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>>48025354
Yeah. Though now she has a rounder, flatter face.

>>48025358
Admittedly, she could sometimes still wear a bun. But yeah, it is very different.

>>48025363
I dunno. I'm not good at spotting these things.
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>>48025390
Gisa is cuter.
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>>48025408
>Go look at her flip card

Anon, we're discussing how the appearance of planeswalkers change from one card to the next. Saying "go look at one of their other cards" is missing the point.
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>>48025354
>tracing over an image of a methed out looking meme artist from a 3rd world country

I wish Die Antwood would just fuck off and die.
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>>48025408
He means original intention. New Liliana is clearly just a white chick. Heretical Healer and the Lili on Tainted Remedy is cute.
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>>48025379
They made some clear progress towards looking more Mediterranean even by RtR. Also, still got brown hair.
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>>48025277
I don't know if anyone read the Thran, but phyrexia existed before Yawgmoth found it. And it was inhabited by the corpse of a giant dragon. There is probably going to be some time fuckery that involves Nicol Bolas creating pyrexia.
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>>48025453
>Bolas created Phyrexia
>He's thrown into the distant past alongside it
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>>48025303
Mina and Denn are also brother and sister. I was going to mentioned they were all married or romantically involved until I saw that.
Not that it should stop you from thinking of them as being romantically involved >>48024603

>>48025311
>I don't care about whitewashing, I just wish these guys had a consistent and sensible look.
I was disappointed when the Venser alt art didn't look like David 10ant.
But it's like comics. They're always going to have different designs.

>>48025357
I'm aware. Just that it was interesting that Innistrad is the first plane that happened.

>>48025381
She definitely had a gypsy vibe

>>48025397
They're still magical tattoos that don't always show up. I just meant that they're not going to always be visible.
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>>48025453

Implying it isn't Ugin
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>>48025431
>>48025434
And I'm saying that the original intention was not gypsy, and that the only reason you think that is because of her clothing.
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>>48025442
Return to Ravnica looks best, because you can't see his dumb fucking sideburns
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That's it? Boring ass spoil day.
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>>48025194
that lili does unspeakable things to MY DICK NNGGG
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>>48025473
>like comics

I don't get why this is the case. Why are people defined by their outfit and hair?

It frustrates me so much.
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>>48025492
It's not even 9:00 AM Wizards time, anon. THere's still more to come
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>>48025490
Are you saying her facial features are distinctly non-Romani in the original artwork?

Her dress is definitely not "the only reason".
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>>48025512
The bulk of daily spoils come from the official article dump, which had 2 cards total.
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>>48025501
Mostly because those are the consistent things you can latch onto when you've got one of two dozen artists working on a given thing, and it's in your best interest to let them draw in their own style. Imperfect system, but I mean, what are you gonna do?
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>>48025381
>>48025408
No, I can see the Romani as well. In fact, it does have a pretty strong gypsy vibe, both facial structure and dress.
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>>48025501
Because artists aren't going to prioritize consistency of facial features. A lot of artists aren't technically skilled enough to consistently depict facial features in their own work, much less in keeping with other artists.
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>>48024710
Ability words are only used when it's a theme in the set that Wizards wants to highlight. This is far from the first time this happens.
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>>48025442
from far away I like flip gideon's art the best but when you look at it closely he looks like he's smelling something bad

BFZ gideon looks like a neanderthal
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>>48025513
Not DISTINCTLY, but there's enough of a difference that, were she in different clothing, my first thought wouldn't be "oh yeah she's a gypsy."
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http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/games-2016-04-27
Ah, sibling rivalry.
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>>48025542
>>48025535
Would it not be easy to just given every character distinctive character features and have each artist look at a master reference?

Like, if Lili has a huge snoz and high cheekbones, it can't be that hard to make 15 people draw her with a huge snoz and high cheekbones for example, no matter the style.
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>>48025594
My first thought was that she was some sort of haunting, ethereal-looking witch. Racial details are impossible to tell when you're shrouded in the glow of death magic.

But trying to analyze what she looks like beneath the veil of magic, I'd argue that she's more Romani or Eastern European looking than any other ethnicity.
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>>48025006
Hotter than LotV.
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>>48025645
Eh, I think some comics franchises did things like that but it tends to make the art come out weird sometimes. It's one of those things where you're kinda just forced to give artists the basics and let them do their thing or else it's gonna be worse anyway.
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>>48025006
>>48025114
At least they've got her art-style pinned now, rather than jumping around. Her scarification is now faintly visible, her skin is deathly pale and they don't see to be moving away from that any time soon.
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>>48025652
I think she looks that way because she's like 100 or something.

Like, she's supposed to look young, but he has little signs of age here and there (like the really obvious clavicle).
She honestly looks like someone who is older than their body
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>>48025654
True. I like the fur.

>>48025694
A bit sad about the scars, but true, it is a great step. Hopefully, we'll get the same with the rest of the walkers, not just the origins ones.

>>48025667
I wonder why. It just doesn't make much sense to me, but I am no artist.
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>>48024844
INNISTRAD 5: DUSKY MOON
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>>48025744
I'll admit that she looks more like a cougar than some sort of youthful pixie. Then again, she's got that look even in a lot of the newer art.
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>>48024583

I'm so fucking glad Gisa didn't get Emrakul'd. She ran off with Nahiri in the story, and well most people didn't turn out ok.

Part of me knew they'd get a dual card. I might have to make my Gisa edh into this.
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>>48025006
Do want.

Might be the hottest looking walker art since BFZ's Kiora.

>tfw love collecting walkers
>tfw we might get Moonfolk waifu to go with Necromancer waifu in the same set.
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>>48025758
I'd say she looks youngest as a Planeswalker in Defiant Necromancer. It's right after she made her pact with Kothophed, rather than when she was actually that young though.
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>>48025758
No, she's definitely gotten a lot younger in later art. She doesn't look older than 17 in >>48025006
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>>48025146
I'm voting for this one.

I'm really skeptical about a lot of things in this set, but I'm really hyped about G&G and Ludevic. I wonder if they're gonna cooperate with Lili.
Shit, now that I think about it it is totally possible the team writing the lore wanted them and a bunch of others (Thalia, and I guess one or two vampires) to be the ones saving the plane and were forced to cram the Gatewatch in at the last linute.
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>>48025793
I'll admit, that one does leave her looking genuinely young. Meanwhile, >>48025006 is pretty ageless. At the very least, I've got no luck pinning her down. Could be anywhere from 16 to 40 as far as I can tell.
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>>48025814
Where do you come from that has teenagers that look like that?
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>>48025793
She's built like a fridge in that art, do not want.

Liliana PW art in order of hot to gross:

>Of the veil
>Vess (Lorwyn)
>Defiant necromancer
>Of the dark realms
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>>48025793
>It's right after she made her pact with Kothophed, rather than when she was actually that young though.

Actually, now that I look at it again, I think that might be the Chain Veil on her hip, which would make this closer to the time she killed Kothophed.
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>>48025174
>They'll have you in stitches!
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A question for standard players.

When we go to Kaladesh in September, what cards will you be happy to see rotate out, from Dragons of Tarkir and Origins?
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>>48025841
Nigga you wot? She's gorgeous in the Defiant Necromancer art.
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>>48024749
This might be a stupid question, but can Haunted dead be played in a mono B EDH?
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>>48025897
yes.
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>>48025841
What about the two Promo Vess arts?
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>>48025897
Yes because no w symbol
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>>48025897
Yes. Only mana symbols and color indicators affect color identity, so the fact that it makes a white token is irrelevant.
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>>48025880
Collected Company.
Also, Collected Company.
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>>48025897
yup, I actually think its really odd edh ruleswise.

White /=/ W when looking at card identity.
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>>48025897
The word "white" is not a problem. It's only if the actual white mana symbol were to appear.

They even got around that with Extort, since the hybrid mana technically never appears outside of reminder text.
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>>48025889
>no hips
>built like a linebacker.

I bet you think Chloe Moretz is hot too.

>>48025906
Duel deck one is too "busy" to really see and that one is the defination of butterface.
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>>48025432
>meme artist
What makes it a meme though? And honestly they dont look bad when they arent in character
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>>48025839
I'm a kike, so trying to narrow it down to one place in particular is an argument in futility.

I've got a cousin my age who actually looks a bit like Liliana in >>48025006, and she had full breasts by 13. No-one else in the family grew that quick, though.
17 is probably a bit of a stretch, yeah. She certainly looks younger than 20, though.
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>>48025947
I mean they kind of make themselves a meme on purpose. It's like their thing.
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>>48025880
Bant Company. It was already a little annoying, O-Com for Jace made playing against it a chore.
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>>48025006
>>48025952
Man, fuck, I can't get over this art. I love it so much. I don't even like Lili. But her coat and the zombies and her face. It just works.
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>>48025947
Being a meme is literally their thing.
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>>48025929
>yup, I actually think its really odd edh ruleswise.

There's not an intuitive way to rule it.

Say you counted color words. Suddenly Pyroblast is UR, so that obviously doesn't work.

Well, then we restrict it to tokens. Suddenly Hunted Dragon is RW, so that doesn't work either.

So you'd have to make a rule that only a card that makes tokens specifically for yourself has its tokens counted as part of it's color identity. Suddenly every Living Weapon is a Black card, so that's a problem too.

It's not something worth dealing with.
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>>48025952
She looks nearly 30 to me. Like that age where all of someone's features start to get sharper, but their skin hasn't broken down from age.
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>>48024731
Wich is weird since i think i recall old Emrakul to be able to just make anything getting too close to it levitate into oblivion. So a zombie horde shouldn't be too much of a danger for it.
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>>48024740
>Ludevic has the B-Movie Frankenstein thing DOWN

...maybe.. maybe he does..

Maybe Ludevic made a frankenstein's monster to fight Emrakul

maybe he IS the monster
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>>48024791
Their design was great though.
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>>48025983
Kozilek got retconned into reality distortion, Emmy is now mind and bio bending. Ie. Zombies are free to do whatever.
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>>48024583
You have to admit that this art can ONLY be them just about to die, though.

They're both paper thin nerdy types, not brawlers.
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>>48025975
Where do you come from that 30-year-olds look like that?
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>>48025970
>>48025960
I thought it was just South African social commentary through satire. Is meme the new satire?
>A Modest Proposal was just meme shitposting
Please let this be true
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>>48025138
>>48025287
Damn.
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>>48025114
>>48025114

argyle just likes depicting tits. the dude is a glorified bad superhero fanservice creator from deviantart. no surprise his liliana doesn't actually look like liliana but some marve;/dc generic "sexy supahero grl"
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>>48025994
>maybe he IS the monster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH_6iFYiryY


>yfw he turns up with an even bigger undead version of his abomination to slap the jellyfish faggot in the gabber.
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>>48026007
>yfw Lily turns Emmy into a zombie and conquers all of Innistrad.
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>>48025994
>maybe he IS the monster

>post yfw Ludevic makes a suit of hulkbuster armor out of body parts and uses HIMSELF as the controlling mind for it, just so he can beat the shit out of some eldrazi.
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>>48024944
Can she count to potato?
>>48025006
Pretty nice, not too flashy.
I like it.
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>>48025938
>Her hip to waist ratio has to be AT LEAST 1.2
>Shoulders are far from broad
>Dem perky teddies
bruh
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>>48026039
Are you me?>>48026057
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>>48025904
>>48025910
>>48025917
>>48025929
>>48025932
Nice, thanks.
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>>48026037
Argyle does better work than most MTG artists.

At least Swanland has improved, all his art looked the fucking same when he started doing art for magic.
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>all these bulk rares and crappy mythics
That means all the EV will be concentrated in Emrakul and the PWers right?
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>>48025994
>>48026057
>http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Ludevic_of_Ulm

>Some think that Ludevic's consumption of potions and inhalation of toxic vapors has left him no choice but to abandon his experiments

>He knows that the only way he'll survive another experiment is to become one
>So he becomes an undead god

Post yfw Ludevic melds with Emrakul, taking control of the Eldrazi.
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>>48025194
Come on man, this art is fucking bad.
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>>48025938
>>48025841
You are like a living stereotype of "I need feminism because female body representation is unrealistic".
I honestly can't tell whether you're trolling or what.

>Captcha thinks duck sauce is tea
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>>48024858
Think of it more like those dreams where you're watching yourself do something stupid from outside your body.
I think of it as hilarious rather than tragic.
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>>48026026
They are both 3/4. They can kill bears barehanded.
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>>48026082
Well, you are allowed a distinctive style of you aren't doing established characters. People can't complain about all art being homogenized to the point where individual artists are unrecognizable and then whine about spikes-man.
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>>48026086
Gisela the broken blade is preordering for $26 on starcityjews.

I'd shift any Emmy I get for better stuff asap, that card will not be worth much compared to the price it will be at release.
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>>48026092
Well it's that or Ludevics Moving Castle.
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>>48026097
This art doesn't fit our persception of the characters. It was created with essentially no knowledge of what these walkers are supposed to look like. I don't see anything wrong with it other than "these guys don't look like they should and look kind of ugly!"
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>>48026116
>Gisela the broken blade is preordering for $26 on starcityjews.
Goddamn, she started at $15
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>>48026086
>Emrakul literally preselling for $20

You should literally steer clear of it if you're gonna buy it for that purpose you stupid fucking Albanian
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So nobody cares about the cards?
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>>48026106
I think the 3/4 take magic and equipment in account. Geralf lives in a castle, probably full of D&D like traps and filled with skaabs, and Gisa's got a bunch of zombies and a (probably) magical shovel.
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>>48025442
BFZ looks ridiculous. The middle ones are the best by far.
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>>48026110
He just threw spikes on everything, to the point where stuff like Augur spree looked like a fucked up shot of Wurmcoil engine.

>>48026104
>>>/r/eddit.
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>>48025138
I can't tell you how pleased I would be just to have some problems solved by non-planeswalkers again
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>>48026150
>and a (probably) magical shovel.
It's only magical in the same way that Gordon Freeman's crowbar is 'magical'.
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>>48026116
Emmy-chan has *serious* potential. I wouldn't go to sleep on that card.
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>>48026129
A lot of the face looks like they've been traced over some celebrity picture and the color mood is a mess.
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>>48026126
Ludevic becoming a lab makes sense. To... a degree. His lab was clearly the best one in Innistrad.

I'd love to see him do some crazy mad science shit that isn't zombies. He made a whole town go blind once, I assume for gags. He also made that Godzilla.

He doesn't do much with Geists, but he also made this haunted construct. I want something that feels Necro-alchemist-y unlike Geralf.
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>>48026175
>Emmy-chan

Fuck off.
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>>48026205
But it's such a great meme.
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>>48026195
Oh shit, he did make a robot with a soul in it.

>>48026039
>>48025994

Pacific rim: Eldrazi boogaloo confirmed.
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>>48026188
Fair.

>>48026157
I'm gonna look up the word Augur. And if it means what the card seems to depict, I'm gonna call you out.

It doesn't. I literally have no idea why that card is called that. Or what the flavor text is referring to. You are safe.
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>>48026195
The fact he can animate junk makes a pretty good case for him turning his lab into a Jaeger.
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>>48026242
It seems like they mixed up augur and auger.
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>>48026245
That would be wunderbar.
Add to that Lili's giant skeleton somebody suggested in a previous thread and it's a deal.
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>>48026261
They didn't. I did. Fuck.

It totally says Auger and it means a tool for drilling.

I don't see how it looking like some getting stabbed with spikes is bad. I also don't get why the Azorius can't confiscate it.
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