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>Official /5eg/ Mega trove, contains all official 5e stuff:
https://mega.nz#F!UVkTnT5b!FJ34UZ98BMY2mEtexenS7g

>Pastebin with homebrew list, SRD, resources and so on:
http://pastebin.com/X1TFNxck

>/5eg/ Discord server
https://discord.gg/0rRMo7j6WJoQmZ1b

>Community-generated Character Sheet, courtesy of charsheetanon
http://www.mediafire.com/download/1w2e7jploickkbj/tgCharacterSheet_v1.4.zip

>If charsheetanon fucked up, tell him to suck cocks here
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Previous Thread: >>46047892

Thread Question: What creative uses have you/your players made of low-level illusion spells?
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Still answering, and taking requests.
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>>46059628
You put the wrong character sheet in the OP.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/5m5afrklabpz5aj/tgCharacterSheet.zip
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We made a necromancer and his crossbow minions waste their readied action by hitting illusionary copies of us. My rogue ensured the wizard didn't get a chance to cast a second spell.
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>>46059628
>What creative uses have you/your players made of low-level illusion spells?
Hiding behind false walls, inside false crates, trees, doors, ourselves but three feet forward.
Feylock is great.
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>>46059697
Sizes of hybrid and animal forms for the wereraven would be appreciated! Or any other information you would care to share on them.
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>>46059706
charsheet anon here. I went ahead and replaced the files in the OP url with the current 1.5 files. The zip will still say 1.4, but it is the correct files.
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>>46059761
Hybrid would be racial size, raven is raven sized. I also have the book, not OP, but it does not directly mention hybrid size.
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>>46059761
Look at >>46059638
It would appear that the book doesn't give them. I'd guess both are small.
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>>46059761
Repost from last thread.
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>>46059787
Weight differences. Fighting style differences (fluff wise). Legality of weapons in setting. Prestige of using particular weapons.

Sorry you lack imagination.
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>>46059852
Hybrid would be racial size, though I could agree if players wanted them to be small. Ravens are tiny, however.
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>>46059886
>he's actually defending it
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>>46059697
Requesting whatever new magical items are in the book, specifically sentient weapons. Might be good to spoiler it though,
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>>46059761
It does say everything is the same except for size. I would think if you're a medium creature, going hybrid would make you small, and raven would make you tiny.
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Has anyone actually used the rules for going beyond level 20? (in the DMG? I forget)

How did it turn out?
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>>46059922
>>46059787
What exactly is the issue here?
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>>46059924
Magic items
1/3
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>>46059922
Not really. It doesn't need defense. It is a table in a book. It stands on it's own.

What I posted was a thinly veiled attack on the other posters ability to use their mind.
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>>46059634
Hope you never have to deal with that.
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>>46059974
2/3
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>>46059915
I did say guess. I wasn't going to bother checking what size a raven is. I've heard they're big for birds, so the idea of one being able to pick up a halfling and fly away with it didn't seem too far-fetched.
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>>46059956
Weapons, specifically the glaive and halberd, do the same thing, have no statistical difference, and only serve to take up ink and space. 5e is shit because of this minor "issue".

Not my opinion, just quoting the past ten threads.
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>>46059956
Many weapons are the same but more expensive or heavy.
Spear vs. trident, for example - the trident costs five times as much, is a martial weapon, and weighs more with no benefit. It's a waste of space and shows a complete lack of creativity or game design proficiency. Options shouldn't be worse in every way.
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>>46059787
What do you suggest to make the weapons more distinct then?
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>>46060003
3/3
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>>46059956
That weapons are boring and repetitive.

Because, you see, D&D is well-documented as a detailed adventuring simulator, and 5e has most definitely not been simplified for the sake of speed and accessibility.
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Are there any mention and/or rules for Power Checks?
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>>46059983
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>>46059697
>>46059860
>>46059974
>>46060003
>>46060030
protip: turn auto-rotate off on your phone
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>>46060015
>no benefit.
It's a hell of a lot cooler, especially for that guy a couple threads ago who wanted to play Aquaman. That's a benefit.
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>>46060046
Power Checks?
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>>46060053
Thanks. Ive been wondering why it does that.
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>>46060046
No. They were not in the original game. Though DMs are encouraged (by me) to simulate them however they wish.
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>>46060014
>the past ten threads
>complaining about weapons being mechanically the same
>>46060015
>complaining about some weapons being more practical than others

Jesus take the wheel
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>>46060023
They don't need to be individually distinct like that.

>>46060055
That's fluff, and it doesn't need to be mechanically inferior for no real reason.

Pic is from shadow of the demon lord, which shows a decent way to set weaponry up.
Only immediate flaw I've noticed is the printing error (since it's talked about on their google page) with the spear vs trident under mil melee.
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What's the easiest way to get a Rogue shields?
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>>46060106
>1d3
Fuck off
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>>46060076
Being evil in Ravenloft is dangerous for your character.
Dangerous in the sense that it corrupts, but gives you power too. If you get too corrupted, you become an NPC, possibly even the Lord of a domain.
One of the most interesting parts of it, in my opinion.

>>46060080
Thanks. That makes me sad, but it's understandable. Do you think they'll publish rules for it in the supplements for DMs they have on the organized play thing they do?
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>>46060106
>1d3
That doesn't exist anon.
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>>46060106
Is your only complaint about the 5e table that they give each item its own stat line?

Maybe some of us prefer to be able to find them easily, dipshit.
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>>46060023
Armor piercing, better at disarming or tripping, having additional reach (pike and whip), doing different damage types or having the ability to deal multiple (halberd, morningstar, ect), causing bleeding wounds, being harder to disarm, having knockback or knock down effects, anything but the base rules really.
>>46060055
So refluff a spear if it's necessary. Or make trident d8(d10). Or give it better disarming abilities.
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>>46060116
Steal a shield. You are a fucking rogue.
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>>46060155
I agree. I am running Death House for store credit, and am sad that the "preferred" conclusion does not require Powers Checks.
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>>46060157
It is either 1-2/3-4/5-6 or 1-2-3/4-5-6.
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>>46060101
To be fair, the majority of complaints have been little more than "halberd=glaive, 5e BTFO"

>>46060116
Strict RAW? Moderately Armored Feat, gives you medium armor and shields.

You could also be a Mountain Dwarf and talk your DM into giving you shields with the medium armor prof you already get.
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>>46060164
Your suggestions are to add a shitpile of new weapon qualities to keep track of, or to just refluff weapons and not expect grognards to argue about what their stats should be if they aren't in the RAW.

Do you realize you posted a picture of yourself?
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>>46060199
If it is the preferred one, are there other ones? Since it seems you do have the extras, no mention to them in there too? =(
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>>46060233
Yes, I am not really that upset I just live for the (You)'s.
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>>46060106
>That's fluff, and it doesn't need to be mechanically inferior for no real reason.
I guess it doesn't need to be, but the inferiority is what? Weight, which nobody tracks, martial proficiency, which limits who can use it but not how powerful it is while they are, and cost. I'm willing to pay a couple GP extra for my character to have a cool-looking weapon, even if the crunch is the same.
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>>46060199
Hm...I might run something for my local game shop...how awkward are the people that showed up for your shit?
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>>46060252
Have you read it? The preferred conclusion is that your party sacrifices one of the other players. Otherwise they fight a CR 5 monster.
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>>46060284
Three of my players are from my regular game. Fourth is an AL player. Basically running it just for him, as he gets all the magic items therein.
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Can I run a boss design concept past you guys?
I know they have Death Knight, but I'm thinking fantasy Darth Vader, Golbez, Lord Soth, Ganael from Legends of Percevan, Zelgius from FE: Tellius, stuff like that.
I threw in some stuff I thought might be handy. For the sake of balance, this guy is definitely designed to be endgame, though I still think I gave him too much.
Comments? What should I leave out? Is there anything worth keeping?
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>>46060289
No, I hadn't... Goddamn, that's the mother of all powerchecks, betrayal, dark magic & murder in cold blood. That disappoints me that there are no rules for them... Well, 2e it is, then. Thanks for your help, annon!
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>>46060260
Well, I can't argue with that. It's the only reason any of us contribute to these meaningless arguments.

Have another (You) on me, you crafty Irish bastard.
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>>46060129
>>46060157
Yeah, 1d3 is weird, I didn't say it was all perfect. Rule is 1d6/2 round up here.
Just noting how there's battleaxe, sword, etc all the same cause then you just get "why is an axe 3 times the cost when they're mechanically the same" which is just answered by what "well an axe is clearly a more prestigious reason or I need the book to tell me maybe a axe is more costly to make because all my worlds are the same as the standard DnD one"

>>46060161
No, that isn't the only complaint. Do you even read? Individual lines doesn't mean much since it's just reading left to right rather than top to down.

>>46060265
Or it could just literally be the same and not have weird nonsense going on but I mean hey whatever man "it's your game" and in the end it's relatively trivial.
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>>46060129
>>46060157

Roll 1d6, divide by 2 and round up. I'ts not fucking rocket science guys...
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>>46060030
ANOTHER SUN BLADE? WIZARDS WHY
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>>46060030
>secretly fears its own destruction
So... it's self-aware? Is that a secret?
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>>46060334
Thanks, see ya next thread.
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>>46059697
Can you post a photo of the "Appendix D"? I'll be running Death House next week, but I don't have any of the stats of the creatures there.

Thanks in advance!
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>>46060265
Springboarding off of this, I'm planning to track encumbrance for my ranger-like character.

Seeing as how it would only make my life more difficult RAW, would it be out of place to see about moving slightly faster while lightly equipped/below my encumbrance threshold?
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>>46060386
But this threads hardly begun
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>>46060030
>that sun sword
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>>46060421
And yet, I'll be there. Silently shitposting, making fun of barbarians and monks, watching as the replies trickle in. It's a leisurely life, with its own ups and downs, but it's the life I live.
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>>46060388
Yeah, but I'm pooping so give me a minute.
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>>46060467
why you gotta hate on barbs and monks anon
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>>46060467
What's wrong with barbs? Monks I get, as 1/3 of their core subclasses are shit.
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>>46059820
With what did you make these sexy charsheets anon?
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>>46060498
>>46060534
There is no need for them to be classes, it forces characters into roles that they shouldn't need to be in. A Jackie Chan or Bruce Lee style Martial Artist or a wrestling master or an unarmed fighter of any sort shouldn't have to be an esoteric master of ki and spiritual energy. A person who amplifies their combat ability with a special trance doesn't need to be unarmored or have any connection to wildlife.
Make Martial Artist/Unarmed Fighter or whatever a class, make Rage and Ki feats or archetypes.

Anyone else getting these annoying new captchas where you need to select "x" until none remain?
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>>46060613
You're trolling on such a high level I can barely see you, dude.
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>>46060613
Yeah, you are an idiot.
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What does it actually take to be an AL DM? Is there a certification they have to go through or something? Do they travel to WotC HQ and take special classes there?
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>>46060730
You have to either find a sweet gig (like mine giving me store credit) or lack any self respect. Sometimes both.
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>>46060759
>or lack any self respect.
Well we are on 4chan.
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>>46060388
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I don't know how to upload chapter 4. It's too big.
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>>46060388
2/?
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>>46060920
Mega. I doubt its 50+GB
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>>46060388
3/?
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4/?
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Do you modify the domains of clerics at all to fit more closely to the god you have in question?
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>>46061005
5/?
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>>46061025
6/?
Oh!
Couldn't find the auto rotate function
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mega(dot)nz/#!TgJQgZwa!OZw13Eb6BLAtQJ-SaRd18CgSTUHH6m-FsFwDwajEYBo

Throw that shit in the MEGA
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>>46061052
7/?
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Did that one Underdark book add Kuo-toa as a playable race like it seemed like it was going to? I was thinking of buying it if it did.
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>>46061061
On my phone. No access to p.c.
Someone else can do it.
8/?
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>>46061077
I haven't seen yet the new stats for Strahd
can you post a pic of them?
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>>46061106
9/?
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>>46061107
Stay tuned faggot.
10/?
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>>46061106
Well it's chapter 4. I've had my fill of mindlessly scanning pages. If some other anon wants to do the rest thats their prerogative. Hopefully this whets a few appetites for CoS.
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Can someone please add curse of Steve to the mega? It's really hard to find it.
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>>46061179
>>46061061
chapter 4
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>>46061173
11/?
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>>46061097
No. The DMG has some rough rules for incorporating it as a race if your DM can be persuaded (not for AL). No ability bonuses, Amphibious, Otherworldly Perception (sense creatures that are invisible or on the Ethereal Plane and pinpoint those that move), Slippery (advantage on escaping grapples), Sunlight Sensitivity, 30 ft swim speed, 120 ft darkvision, speaks Undercommon.
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>>46061203
12/?
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>>46061061
Thanks for chapter 4
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>>46061023
If a player came to me and asked I'd probably okay it provided the change was small and/or well justified. If I was playing I'd just work with what's there because I don't get to play much and have yet to exhaust every possible character option in the PHB like most of /5eg/.
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>>46061230
13/?
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Who was the guy who said he was going to upload the scan of the first 20 pages of the book?
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>>46061266
14/?
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>>46061023
The only big one I see is for Death domain, where I would switch out the Animate Undead spell for the deities that hate undead (they want the dead to stay dead).
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>>46059628
Made a false image of the BBEG in front of some minions. They were confused until we started sniping them from the shadows.
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>>46061294
15/?
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>>46061248
uhhh...
No problem.
This is and uhhh... should be.
A Bi-partisan effort.
A.
Rallying of all of us.
For uhhh... the betterment of everyone.
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>>46061318
16/?
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>>46061374
Thank you so fucking much!
I thought the Appendix D was like, one or two pages - I wouldn't have asked if I knew it would take so much work.

Have an awesome day!
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>>46061374
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>>46061318
>Unarmed strikes
Vampires know kung-fu now
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>>46061444
It was a good read. Wanted to share.
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>>46061493
Vampires are mystically stronger, and their backhands are strong.
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...i regret posting all that, now I'm sitting here waiting to talk while you all read.
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>>46061524
Then why not name it slam like in previous iterations?
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>>46061626
I'd love to see the "adventure hooks" section if you're offering. We only got the "Creeping Fog" hook in Death House. I'm curious to see if the others are better.
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>>46061702
Standardization, probably. An unarmed attack is an unarmed attack, isn't it?
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>>46061702
Because slam is not the same as an unarmed strike in this edition. I'm not even sure slam is a thing.
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>>46061702
Becasue a slam is a slam. An unarmed strike can be a punch, kick, slam, headbutt, jibs, etc.
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>>46060353
>lmao make the same item again these nerds won't have the DMG anyway rofl, yo perkins pass the weed nigguh
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>>46060233
What the weapon anon is saying its right.
I have played games with weapon qualities and its not hard.
Wizards have their spells, figthers just want to have a fucking reason to wield a mace over a quarterstaff. its not simulationist.
If the fighter were well done (like in the beta) it would be so fucking easy to add some bonus/penalty to the manouvers depending on the weapon you are wielding.
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>>46061806
no you see remembering that your weapon grants you +4 to trip is too hard to remember.
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>>46061806
>wizards have their spellls, fighter's should have something other than hitting for xdx damage too!

They do, you mentioned them, the maneuvers.

Or you know, imagination, using the environment, using parts of your weapon and talking about stuff with the DM.

Not everything has to have crunch printed in the core roles, it's unnecessary. If you want to add these extra functions to weapons, go ahead, no one cares at all if you do.

We're not the D&D police, homie, do whatever the fuck you want.

It's just pointless to bitch about the fact that they aren't in core rules because most people don't give a shit anyway.
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>>46061828
Hell you could even go full 5e mode and just give advantage.
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>>46061806
How was it in the beta?
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>>46061713
1/?
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>>46062234
2/?
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>>46059787
>5e fags will defend this
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>>46062256
3/?
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>>46062289
4/?
I mixed this up with 3
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>>46062328
5/5
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>>46062328
If you are going to do it half assed, kill yourself.
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>>46062404
Why don't you go beg on reddit nigger.
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someone scan all of CoS quickly so beggars can fuck off and 5eg can go back to normal
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>>46062460
I own a copy of the book.
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So after seeing all the Ranger hate posts I figured I'd give them another look.

I get why they're not fan-fucking-tastic but if they're played in the right setting they would be quite useful, especially with the hunter archetype.

How does /tg/ feel about the UA Ranger update? Has anyone considered finishing what was started?
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>>46062634
>How does /tg/ feel about the UA Ranger update? Has anyone considered finishing what was started?

After experiencing the first two levels, I adjucated that it should e a prestige class.
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>>46059628
I might be retarded but how do I use the Mega trove?
For some reason I only ever get to a blank page when I us this link.
>https://mega.nz#F!UVkTnT5b!FJ34UZ98BMY2mEtexenS7g
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>>46062683
Seems a bit lacking to be used as a prestige class don't you think?

Fuck it, just make ranger a prestige class in general, or an archetype for fighter.
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>>46062782
It really should be an archetype for the Fighter or Rogue, imo.
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>>46062782
Just let's use magic-man and fighter classes, with everything as archetypes.
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>>46062822
3 classes: Fighting-man, Mage, and Rogue.

Everything else is an archetype.
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>>46062838
I always thought it was pretty zany that a wizard couldn't learn healing magics because it would be "trampling on another class's toes"

If you gave a wizard acess to the entire cleric spellbook it would still be more distinct from a cleric than a cleric is from a paladin
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>>46062854
Opinions you dislike aren't bait, anon. Grow up.
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>>46062888
Every time that subject is raised, it turns into a stupid argument that isn't going to change D&D going forward.

WR&M exists if you want a simplified class system. Early D&D editions also continue to exist.
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>>46062975
Nothing that happens on this board will change D&D going forward. Might as well not say anything at all if that's your only criteria for proper discussion.
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http://www.naturalcrit.com/homebrew/share/NyIgUsf6g


I try man. Just want to make you proud.
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>>46062886
wizard is already the broadest class in the game, if anything it could do with being broken up
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>>46063062
Yeah it always made me wonder why "does magic" is like 1 class but "does fighting" is like 7 different classes.

Part of it I guess is these subclasses would likely just be "is magic, but only accesses these schools of the massive grimoire" which isn't as...'exciting' as "fights mans, but with fists and ki stuff" vs "fights mans, but rages and hits harder than normal"
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Because Shit DM's exist.
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>>46062886
Wizard and Psion are completely different distinct classes in 3e
>lol whatever psion is just a different flavor of wizard just play a wizard we don't need 5e psions
Paladin and Cleric are now even more similar from how they where in 3e
>of course they're different classes, paladin is a class why would it be a cleric archtype, they're totally different, they'll fix it, it's a beta, it's gamer culture just accept it thats how its always beeeeeen
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>>46062284
Why the fuck would we?

Also, according to that table, a quiver with specifically 20 arrows in it counts as a weapon which deals as much damage as a sword.
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>>46063100
That's another completely reasonable point, you could get a lot of mileage out of being a dedicated one school caster with added class features that give it more distinct feeling.

I just think it's pretty balls that if you're going to have "Wizard" mean "can cast from any school of magic", why would you then say "lmao not healing though fuck you".

Summoning a fireball and creating an illusiory army are massively different things, so why can you do that on the same class but you can't zap someone causing damage but not have a spell that restores damage?
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potato
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>>46063176
>Fire your crossbow
>You shoot 30 quarrels at once and now you're out.
>1d6 damage
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>>46062284
>axe hand does 1d6

brutal
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>>46063166
Agreed 100%

Also I forgot druids were a thing because they're so ass, but why are "nature" spells also something a wizard cannot learn?
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Have any new weapons been added in Strahd?

I know that all the other adventures have added new weapon types of some sort, for example the boomerang from EE, or the repeating crossbow from OoTA. Did anything new get added?
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>>46059628
If I multiclassed wizard and sorcerer, with 1 level of wizard and 4 levels of sorcerer, could I take the 3rd level spell Vampiric Touch?

Sorcerers don't normally gain access to this spell; it's a Wizard and Warlock spell, and Wizards can normally only gain it at 5th level. With multiclassing rules on spell slots, taking 1 level of Sorcerer and 4 levels of Wizard would give me the same amount of spell slots as a 5th level Wizard, but I'm wondering, should I be able to take a 3rd level Wizard spell, even though I don't have 5 levels of Wizard? Can multiclass casters tale spells from their other casting class even though they wouldn't have the levels in that class under normal circumstances?
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>>46063035
Yo you the REAL MVP. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK YOU AUTIST
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>>46063223
You can if you multiclass, though I much prefer to multiclass Druid with Nature Cleric because fuck it why not?
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>>46063195
>Summoning a fireball and creating an illusiory army are massively different things, so why can you do that on the same class but you can't zap someone causing damage but not have a spell that restores damage?

in fairness, it would look odd to an outsider that modern civilization can fly to the moon or transplant a heart, but can't cure the common cold. without knowing exactly how arcane magic works (and i mean exactly) it's impossible to say exactly what can and can't be done. the only rule that really decides whether a particular spell makes it into the book is tradition and game design, not whether or not it makes sense according to rules we don't know. and it will continue to be that way until they explain exactly how magic works in specific detail (eg. never).

or maybe the gods just decided "fuck you, healing is for our guys".
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>>46063318
Bards can cast Arcane Healing Magic because fuck you.
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Everyone bitching about Wizards not using holy spells... It's called Class Balance. Why would you make one class be able to do everything? At that point why have clerics, druids, bards at all?
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>>46063035
Seems decent. One complaint is mind blast. I can understand the scaling, but the levels at which is scales are weird. 6, 11, and 16 are weird choices. Fighters get extra attacks at 5, 11, and 20, and cantrips get extra dice at 5, 11, and 17. I'd say change it. Otherwise it's pretty good.
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>>46063344
bard magic works differently than wizard magic and is actually derived from the gods, even if it's not directly granted by them. it's still arcane because reasons. i guess the arcane/divine categorisation doesn't mean much anymore, the important thing is each class has their own way of doing magic and those methods have their own advantages and disadvantages.
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>>46063297
True, but then you lose levels in Wizard and are a bit more MAD.

It just seems like a very zany way of presenting a wizard class.

"This is a Wizard: He can draw upon an unparalleled range of spells, able to turn a man to stone with a word or soar into the sky by whistling like a lark.

But he can't heal you lmao, or the cleric will sue him for stealing his job."

Why?
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Tell me one good reason why would you want to translante old games from old editions to 5e? no, really, I need to understand why my GM tries to do it.
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>>46063392
So you admit that arcane healing is inherently feasible but oyu contest that for whatever reason, Wizards, those nerdy bastards who spend decades studying some absolute toss, haven't a single clue how to use arcane energy to heal someone but bards can sing a wound shut?

Why can a wizard not study this effect in practise and develop a similar spell?

Because fuck you, that's why, stop treading on the cleric's toes, waaaaaaaah
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>>46061778
this edit of that picture made me laugh more than it should have
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>divine casters: Druid, Bard, Cleric
>arcane caster: Sorceror, Warlock, Wizard
>tanky martial: Barbarian, Fighter, Paladin
>sneaky martial: Monk, Ranger, Rogue

Is this the best way to catagorize classes?

Or would this work better

>divine: Cleric, Druid, Paladin, Ranger
>arcane: Bard, Sorcerer, Warlock, Wizard
>martial: Barbarian, Fighter, Monk, Rogue
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>>46063400
Why have any classes besides a Wizard? Just let them be the only class.
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>>46063253
>boomerang
>repeating crossbow
>more weapons besides that
What.
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>>46063459
Definitely not the first, simply because it implies Paladins and Rangers lack casting ability, which they obviously do not. Same even for fighter and rogue, but to a more limited extent.

The last one uh, sure. We 4e now.. Wait, why is Ranger "divine"?
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>>46063447
>So you admit that arcane healing is inherently feasible but oyu contest that for whatever reason, Wizards, those nerdy bastards who spend decades studying some absolute toss, haven't a single clue how to use arcane energy to heal someone but bards can sing a wound shut?

like i said, wizard magic and bard magic are different, even if they're both "arcane" (which doesn't mean much). just because bards can do something doesn't mean wizards can too, unless they learn bard magic, in which case they would have bard levels.
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>>46063281
I'm asking this because I want to use the Quicken Spell metamagic from Sorcerer to cast Vampiric Touch as a bonus action, but I don't want to have to wait until 7th level to do it.
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>>46063459
Nah, go with

>Magic: Wizard, Priest
>Martial: Fighter, Rogue

Fuck ranger, it should just be a fighter subclass, but get rid of all the terrible spells as well.

Druid is just a priest of a nature god or something, who cares honestly, fuck druids.

Bard is just a half wizard half rogue, it doesn't need to be it's own class.
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>>46063463
This guy gets it.
>>46063500
The spellcasting they get is from druids, they're basically Fighter/Druid multiclass and it's dogshit.
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>>46063281
>>46063514
bumping again in the hope that I get an answer to my mechanics question
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Would you play a game where player races where Yuan-ti, Bullywugs, Bugbears, Goblins, Kobolds, Kuo-toa, Myconids, Ratlings(Not-Skaven), Protoniths(tribal Zoidbergs that ride dinosaurs), and Duergar? Set in a hollow earth style Land of the Lost setting with Dinosaurs and Conanry turned up to 11?
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>>46063781
Add tengu as a playable race and I'd be on board.
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>>46063781
>tribal zoidberg

So, zoidberg?
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>>46063765
Yes, you can. Spell slots are not class specific.
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>>46063781
Sure?

I don't see why the races would make me want to not play your game unless it's "all c@girls" or some shit.
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>>46063281
>>46063890
incorrect. You prepare spells as if you only had the one specific class. A wizard1/sorcerer4 would not be able to prepare any 3rd level spells. He'd have 3rd level spell slots, but would only be able to use them with 1st and 2nd level spells.
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>>46064073
Wizards learn spells by inscribing them in a book, though.
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>>46062360
Thanks a bundle, anon! I was the requestor for that section and I really appreciate it. Don't listen to >>46062404
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>>46064144
Yes and they can only inscribe spells of a level they can cast AS DETERMINED BY THEIR SINGLE CLASS LEVELS IN WIZARD
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>>46064144
But you can only scribe spells that he is capable of casting. My party found a scroll of True Polymorph near the beginning of the game that is being saved until desperate circumstances or until it can be scribed at level 17.
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>>46063463
Slow down there, Monte Cook.
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>>46064073
wizard spell prep relies on having slots, so if you have slots, you can prepare a level 3 spell as a level 1 wizard.

>You prepare the Iist of wizard spells that are available for you to cast. To do so, choose a number of wizard spells from your spellbook equal to your Intelligence modifier + your wizard leveI (minimum of one spell).
>The spells must be of a leveI for which you have spell slots.

so if you have spell slots at that level you can prepare it.
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>>46063411
When you use the term "games," do you mean campaigns that were previously dropped? The DM probably has a plot thread he was really hype about, and now can't finish and would feel dirty retreading.
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>>46064210
he has a level 3 slot from his sorcerer levels, so he can cast the spell.
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>>46064210
>But you can only scribe spells that he is capable of casting.
That's not the issue. Vampiric touch is a 3rd level spell, and a Wizard 1/Sorcerer 4 has 3rd level spell slots, but it doesn't matter if what >>46064173 says is true.
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>>46064173
>>46064210
>>46064233
Look at the multiclass rules. It's quite explicit on the subject.
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>>46064253
Check page 164 of the PHB.

"For example, if you are the aforementioned ranger 4/
wizard 3, you count as a 5th-level character when
determining your spell slots: you have four 1st-level
slots, three 2nd-level slots, and two 3rd-level slots.
However, you don’t know any 3rd-level spells, nor do you
know any 2nd-level ranger spells. You can use the spell
slots o f those levels to cast the spells you do know—and
potentially enhance their effects."
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If you don't like it then houserule it. I do
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>>46064234
Yeah, meant old campaigns.

But, really, those games can't be translated to any edition, and specially not 5e.
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>>46064289
Look in literally the next paragraph. It explicitly prevents that.
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>>46064259
he's wrong.

nothing here would limit you.
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How familiar is the average player with the movie Hot Fuzz? I sorta want to bite the idea of a murder mystery where a group of people from a town are murdering people for simple things, so they can have a perfect town. I just wouldn't want any players to catch on too fast.
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>>46064144
>>46064233
>>46064253
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>>46064330
Exactly. It's the multiclassing rules that prevent it, not the class rules. The class rule that prevents it would be the part where you're treating it as if you were just a 1st level Wizard while preparing and learning your Wizard spells and as if you were just a 4th level Sorcerer when learning and (not) preparing your Sorcerer spells. Since neither a 1st level Wizard nor a 4th level Sorcerer can learn or prepare a 3rd level spell, a Wiz1/Sorc4 cannot either.
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>>46064300
the multiclass page is badly written and forgets wizards can copy spells they find.

he wouldn't have the spell at level 1 wizard, but he can find it and cast it given they build he presented.

the restrictions are

>do you know a 3rd level spell?
he does
>can you cast a third level spell?
he can

the wizard spell prep requires a slot of that level, nothing else.

the copying of a spell into the book requires a spell slot of that level, nothing else.

so he can, 100%
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>>46063841
*I had actually meant to have added Kenku to the list but I forgot to save the change I made adding it before I went to bed last night. Was thinking the Kenku would have a Crowlike subrace and a really creepy Vulturelike subrace like that one fantasy movie with the evil Vulture animatronics.

>>46063888
More of a proto-Illithid with half of them having crabclaws instead of hands.

>>46063932
A lot of people seem really averse to games without Elves and regular self-insertable Humans, though I was thinking the Yuan-ti would be Human/Elf enough but would force more of a savage Conan theme than the average standard fantasy setting Human.
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>>46064335
How would you determine that short of asking? I don't imagine ttRPG players have any more propensity to watching Hot Fuzz than normies.
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>>46064397
No he can't. The multi-classing rules explicitly state that "what spells you know and can prepare for each class
individually, as if you were a single-classed member of
that class."
Ergo, you can only scribe spells as if you were a Wizard 1. No getting around that.
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>>46064397
You're forgetting the part where it says that you can prepare spells that you have available slots for. Since the multiclassing rules say you prepare spells as if you only have levels in that one class, you aren't looking at your total number of spell slots, just the spell slots a 1st level wizard has. So while preparing spells (the part governed by the multiclassing rules) you don't get to prepare a Wizard spell above 1st level.
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>>46064442
>>46064397
>>46064384
>>46064347
>>46064330
>>46064327
>>46064300
>>46064289
>>46064253
>>46064233
Maybe I'll just ask my DM what he thinks, and have him rule it for me.
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>>46064335
Then prevent them from catching on too fast by being a creative GM. Don't follow the same beats as Hot Fuzz, have the cult secretly form in the city they're already in and have them notice a gradual improvement, but don't give them solid clues until you're ready for the adventure to begin.

>>46064397
The Wizard 1 doesn't have 3rd level slots. The character does on a certain level, but he can't comprehend wizarding arcane spells of that magnitude.

He has a very slapdash understanding of MORE DAKKA pasted together from all the casting he does, and can DAKKA with some difficulty, but artillery eludes him.
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>>46064442
What the fuck that's actually right.

I completely take back what I said, the multiclassing rules are zanier than I thought on my first read.

My bad
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>>46064509
Oh yeah, it probably could have been phrased much more clearly and noted with the classes themselves ^-^
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>>46064496
There was an Anon who suggested that kind of plot before when a DM complained that ever since his party got a land deed that they'd stopped adventuring.
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>>46064493
You can apply the logic to anything. Which also basically implies that you admit you're wrong and don't like your outcome.

Why the fuck would you bother asking here?
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>>46064586
That sounds like an incredibly boring DM.

The party now owns and has control over a piece of land, but what happens when an elite group of thieves have something buried under the keep/mansion/house the players live in? What happens when an army is invading the nearby kingdom whom acknowledges and protects their right to live on that land? What happens when a shady businessman wants to buy the land they live on, constantly upping the price until they can't refuse, but then turning it into something destructive and harmful?

And that's not even going into all the horror/abomination/rampaging monster plots that could arise.

DMs that expect players to go searching for plot threads in order to do anything with the game are disappointed DMs.
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>>46061897
I think the base class had sup dice and manouvers, battlemasters being even better at it.
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>>46064698
What? The reason I said I'll ask my DM is because people here seemed to not settle on a conclusion, until >>46064509 posted, which was after my post.
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>>46063459
The second one feels more appropriate than the first, but this is how I would do it:

>Divine Casters: Druid, Cleric
>Arcane Casters: Bard, Sorcerer, Warlock, Wizard
>Martial Casters: Paladin, Ranger
>Mainly Martials: Barbarian, Fighter, Monk, Rogue
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>>46063035
reflavored eldrazi?
or is this an actual thing in and of itself.
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>>46063781
You had me at Yuan-ti
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>>46064719
> Generalizing this hard

Shit player detected.
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>>46063459
gimme my primal magic back dammit
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New guy to 5th ed here, got a few questions since I'm unfamiliar with the system.

I'm making a dwarvern barbarian at 6th level, using halberds and polearms mostly.

Now, it looks like you only get feats sparingly now instead of every three levels, is that right? At sixth level a barbarian only gets one, and it looks like great weapons mastery looks good due to having advantage on strength rolls; can you apply this on both attacks? And if I were to take polearm mastery later would I get three attacks at an advantage, each with full strength bonus to damage and +10 each time?
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>>46063035
>text over image background
Stop posting this asshole's stuff.
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>>46064776
...Oh.

C-carry on anon
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>>46064818
I remember when we had
>Warriors: Fighters, Paladins, and Rangers
>Priests: Clerics, Druids, and specialty priests
>Wizards: Mages and Specialty Wizards (including Illusionist, the example specialty)
>Rogues: Thieves and Bards
Yours feels to me like the best fit for a modern continuation of that.
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>>46064886
I'm a shit ForeverGM, thank you very much, and there's a reason why I don't run sandboxes anymore.
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>>46064884
Yuan Ti used to be Humans. And lots of them still look very human so their females having breasts tactfully makes sense.
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>>46064951
> ForeverDM
> Knee-jerk judgement of others' games
It's self-inflicted.
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>>46064911
It's probably because that site is optimized for Chrome and you're using FF. I don't use it as a result, not even sure why it's so hard to manage.
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>>46064971
How does one, "Tactfully," have breasts?
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>>46064907
I believe it's advantage on strength *checks* which doesn't apply to combat but rather things like climbing and swimming
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>>46064995
>>>/g/
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>>46064887
Primal magic is a type of divine magic, taken from nature deities or spirits of nature, rather than more traditional divine sources. Druids, Rangers, and Totem Warriors count as such, I'd imagine.
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>>46064995
Even on Chrome there's the entire "Rift Torn World" paragraph at the top right.
It's worse on Firefox.
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>>46065002
Shhhh.
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>>46064971
it's a cropped joke about the X-com snake ayy lmaos, anon.
I know about Yuan-ti.
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>>46065002
The t was a mistake. I just wanted actually.There was not supposed to be a T
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>>46064907
>Now, it looks like you only get feats sparingly now instead of every three levels, is that right?
Correct

> At sixth level a barbarian only gets one, and it looks like great weapons mastery looks good due to having advantage on strength rolls; can you apply this on both attacks?
Yes.

>And if I were to take polearm mastery later would I get three attacks at an advantage, each with full strength bonus to damage and +10 each time?
Correct. Bear in mind that if you were in a raging frenzy you could get getting three attacks with the main end of your weapon (two from "extra attack" class feature, one from "frenzy" class feature for a berserker) with full strength bonus to damage, rage bonus to damage, and the great weapon mastery to boot. With advantage. You'll get a level of exhaustion for using the frenzy, but that's an available option in any given fight.
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>>46064907
You can take a feat instead of an ASI at 4,8,12,16 and 19. So yes, you'll only have one at level 6.

To your second part; yes you can apply GWM to all of your attacks, including the bonus action attack from Polearm Mastery.
So it's 2 x (1d10+Str+10) + (1d4+Str+10), all with -5 to hit.
You don't get advantage from the strength check thing, but you can get it from the savage attacks class feature.
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>>46062838
But rogue is a shit class and fightingman is retarded when two of the three pillars aren't combat.
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>>46064907
>>Now, it looks like you only get feats sparingly now instead of every three levels, is that right?

To be specific, you only get feats when your class tells you that you do. For MOST classes, that's 4th level, 8th, 12th, 16th, and 19th. Fighter is an exception in that it gets them at 4th, 6th, 8th, 12th, 14th, 16th, and 19th. Note: You can get a feet OR a stat boost at each of those levels, but not both. Also if multi-class, it is possible to never get a single feat or stat boost if you never take a class beyond 3rd level and just keep taking new classes.

>>At sixth level a barbarian only gets one, and it looks like great weapons mastery looks good due to having advantage on strength rolls; can you apply this on both attacks? And if I were to take polearm mastery later would I get three attacks at an advantage, each with full strength bonus to damage and +10 each time?

For great weapon mastery, You can apply it to any melee weapon attack with a heavy weapon, at your option. So if you are a fighter with 4 attacks, you can have 3 of them be boosted, and 1 not, or 2 and 2, or 1 and 4, or none, or all.

As for the other part, rage does -not- give you advantage on attack roles. It gives you advantage on strength -saves- and strength -checks-. So basically skills and saves.
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>>46065017
>>46065084
>>46065090
All right, cheers. Is there any other thing to do to trick out my barb? I probably won't take beserker path due to style reasons but other than that is it looking like a solid martial build?
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>>46065090
>You can take a feat instead of an ASI at 4,8,12,16 and 19.
Maybe, if your DM is using them.
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>>46065126
>Rogue is a shit class
>Expertise
That sound you here is the entire world laughing at you.
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>>46061282
right here. caught a cold so didn't post last night.
first 20 pages uploading here.
https://mega.nz/#F!4hxnmbbC!b4VJCYBTKvNN4FJ1zQU2uQ

sorry for shit quality and not pdf.
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anybody play the AL adventure "Suits of Mist" ?

or have a PDF of it?
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>>46063536
>ranger, it should just be a fighter subclass,

No, it should be a rogue subclass.

Sneakiness and shadowing (but in forests, not cities), light armor, Dexterity, dual-wielding, minor magical effects, skill monkey, etc etc.
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>>46065155
Thanks. I won't complain. Anything is fine.
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>>46060155
I havent seen it in curse at all. Not that you couldnt housr rule it
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>>46065179
>>46063536

a prestige class maybe?
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>>46065084
Strength ability checks and attack rolls are not the same thing, as can be seen by the fact that 1 level of exhaustion gives disadvantage on ability checks, while 3 levels of exhaustion gives disadvantage on attack rolls, showing that the two are separate.
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>>46065141
Frankly the main thing to concern yourself with when creating a martial character in 5e is making sure that you aren't a boat anchor outside of combat. Pick up a couple of skills that compliment one of your not-fightan stats. Make your third or fourth good attribute Wisdom and get proficiency in Perception or Insight so you've got something going for you other than "angry beatstick."
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