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>>17487337
>>17490314
Chironymous here, eventually doing I-Ching readings for whoever I can whenever I'm around, so definitely check back for a reply before thread's end!
I just need positive input*** to heal my wounds so that I may help others... and as much or as little of the following as you're comfortable giving me:
***Post something friendly, cheerful, helpful, upbeat, encouraging, caring, positive, or the like
*Name/nickname
*Gender
*Sign
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as is
Roberto Siller
Male
22
Tell me about misery and sadness
An old pastebin if anyone is interested:
http://pastebin.com/V1dKC9yy
A&w gurl were you at bby
>>17490337
Great, now I want root beer!
>>17490334
So this is what they look like without the glamour
>>17490331
Great pic and filename!
I'd tell you ALL about misery and sadness, but neither of us have that kind of time! :p
And it looks like I won't be telling you ANYTHING about misery and sadness, because you actually receive a good reading!
First, the hexagram for "Creative Activity":
Heaven above and Heaven below:
Heaven in constant motion. With the strength of the dragon, the Superior Person steels himself for ceaseless activity.
Productive Activity.
Potent Influence.
Sublime Success if you keep to your course.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
The time for action has come. You now have the focus and the stamina necessary for accomplishing great tasks. The path before you is being cleared and reward lies ahead.
CONSIDER:
The dragon rises high for all to see.
He has become the mentor he always longed to find.
Then, the hexagram for "The Cauldron":
Fire rises hot and bright from the Wood beneath the sacrificial cauldron:
The Superior Person positions himself correctly within the flow of Cosmic forces.
Supreme Accomplishment.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
Your needs are coming into harmony with the requirements of the Cosmos. Blending brilliantly with the Dance of Life, you are becoming an actual element of Cosmic Law. Your goals will now be realized because you no longer cut against the Cosmic grain; you are no longer swimming against the flow of the Tao. You are acquiring an intuitive sense of what can and cannot be, and aligning your efforts accordingly.
"There are plenty of people that want to see you fail, it's time you think about the ones who don't."
Zac
Male
Gemini
A bi guy who's feels disconnected and empty a lot and doesn't have the discipline to focus of things that matter.
USA
What am I missing that makes me feel empty and disconnected? Or what causes me to feel this way?
>>17490320
Life will try to teach you lessons at the easy way.. but when we don't learn that lessons, life will teach you in the hard way.. and it will keep happening until you learn the lesson..
Moose destroyed
Male
Aries
Entity from other existence experimenting what it means to be human, I read the sings of the cosmos, and the cosmos read my sings..
Canadá!
>Can you make a short general reading please?
>>17490331
See good finally coming with work.
As it will change you and siphon the depression.
See Pepe's around you. I like dank memes around you go to adv and get stuff off your chest tonight.
I think it will be very bright when you meet her. As you run into her accidently... Don't spill spaghetti or you lose out on a gf.
>>17490353
Ewe Gemini...
>>17490357
Aries are OK.
>>17490337
>>17490346
>>17490360
Do you see H and me getting together?
>>17490346
>>17490360
>>17490368
Hey Cheswick. Similar to TOC's question, do you see me and M getting together?
>>17490375
And here's Jack White.
>>17490353
The first part of your reading reveals the hexagram for "Return":
Thunder regenerates deep within Earth's womb:
Sage rulers recognized that the end of Earth's seasonal cycle was also the starting point of a new year and a time for dormancy. They closed the passes at the Solstice to enforce a rest from commerce and activity. The ruler himself did not travel.
You have passed this way before but you are not regressing. This is progress, for the cycle now repeats itself, and this time you are aware that it truly is a cycle. The return of old familiars is welcome. You can be as sure of this cycle as you are that seven days bring the start of a new week. Use this dormancy phase to plan which direction you will grow.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
You are about to experience a rebirth -- about to be given another chance, a new lease on life. You have persevered, gone the distance through an entire cycle -- through the Spring of hope or new passion, through a Summer of growth and building, only to be sacrificed like the archetypal Harvest King at the Autumn reaping. You lie dormant like seed beneath Winter snows now, healing and absorbing new energies in preparation for the new young Spring coming shortly to your life.
CONSIDER:
Watch out for bears.
To them, you are spaghetti dinner.
Then, the hexagram for "Expansion":
Whirlwinds and Thunder:
When the Superior Person encounters saintly behavior, he adopts it; when he encounters a fault within, he transforms it.
Progress in every endeavor.
You may cross to the far shore.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
Get ready to ride a tide of accelerated growth toward self-actualization. A joyful awareness of the best within you, coupled with an acceptance of your Shadow, will provide a greater repertoire, a much bolder vision, and new depth and clarity that will compel you to expand your horizons.
(Continued in another post...)
>>17490368
Thanks love being a leader
>>17490353
>>17490380
From what the reading showed, I'd say first off, you are missing strength. Use the time you have on your hands in the near future to build yourself up! Gain strength and wisdom! Next, I'd say you're missing something that was in your life before that is not currently. Perhaps old activities/habits or friends/family. Reconnect with these things that made you feel more whole before! Getting in touch with your roots and then growing from there will help you to feel more fulfilled! Also, when you begin feeling up to it, seek direction / a goal to work toward for a sense of momentum (and then accomplishment!). You can begin planning any time soon! The sky's the limit! Best wishes! :)
>>17490357
Moose destroyed?! Amazing.
The first part of your reading reveals the hexagram for "Retreat":
The tranquil Mountain towers overhead, yet remains this side of Heaven:
The Superior Person avoids the petty and superficial by keeping shallow men at a distance, not in anger but with dignity.
Such a retreat sweeps the path clear to Success.
Occupy yourself with minute detail.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
Retreat in this instance is not a desperate flight in disarray, but a conscious choice to distance yourself from forces that would rob you of your peace. It is not a surrender, but a regrouping. Retreat from this conflict is actually an advance toward your own center. You move toward balance, and thus a much stronger position.
CONSIDER:
He makes a dignified retreat and retains control of the situation.
Then, the hexagram for "The Wanderer":
Fire on the Mountain, catastrophic to man, a passing annoyance to the Mountain:
The Superior Person waits for wisdom and clarity before exacting Justice, then lets no protest sway him.
Find satisfaction in small gains.
To move constantly forward is good fortune to a Wanderer.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
You are a stranger to this situation. It is your attraction to the exotic that has led you here, but you will move on to a new vista when this one has lost its mystique. Because much of this environment is foreign to you, you must exercise only the best judgement. You don't know the custom here, and it's too easy to cross a line you don't know is there. Because you are the foreigner in this setting, you have no history to acquit you. Watch, listen, study, contemplate, then step lightly but decisively on.
>>17490380
>>17490399
This is a lot to take in. Thank you so much! And a fast question, what are bears in this context?
Rob
Male
Libra
23, Disconnected from the world/society for 3 - 4 years so far, impossible goal. personality wise calm, collective, neutral soul.
how can i become a god?.
>>17490409
You're very welcome!
It's just a general warning to avoid any pitfalls that could discourage you -- bad thoughts, words, actions, people, etc. And if you do end up down, don't stay down!
>>17490413
Learning how to soul attach. Real danger with that though...
Learn qi gong as it helps with transference.
>>17490405
I great you The Onymous CHRONYMOUS! Thanks for use your energies to show me a way. May I ask you, what should I do now? From your point of view
>>17490413
Reading this is at least a start: http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~phalsall/texts/taote-v3.html
And interesting that Cheswick mentioned qi gong!
>>17490386
Yeah but not sticking it out when it goes bad
Dummy
>>17490369
Is her name Haley? Do the honey pot.
>>17490379
I think you need improvement. Major space spaghetti.
Why not go on into the ask the opposite sex threads. You'll learn a lot.
How's your ears I see wax and a incoming infection...
And buy a Betta fish tommoro there cool.
>>17490337
Das me
But I need to sleep now
Goodnight my dearest Chessy. Godspeed
>>17490427
>>17490423
>>17490434
No. Okay, thanks.
>>17490435
When the aliens come, we'll try our best to beg for mercy, and they'll be swayed. But then they will see our political cartoons, and they will wipe us from existence.
>>17490420
what are the possible dangers?
what kind of transference?
>>17490433
I shall begin reading it, thank you.
>>17490434
Ayy lmao!
>mfw when I'm dummy
>>17490433
Move there soul out attach yours with a hell of a lot of energy movement. Dangerous though.
You can do it with fetuses and put your soul inside but if they abort you die....
>>17490434
Hey can you see if there is something wrong with me? I feel a pain in my back for 3 years now.. the doctors say that is just a gas.. but I don't think so :/ it feel like when you crush your fingers, it drives me crazy a lot of times
>>17490442
nigger nigger
>>17490428
You're very welcome!
I say use the near future to throw yourself into self improvement or a project / a series of projects! Take care of details! Something you can be proud of and find strength/wisdom in for when the world around you becomes more harmonious to your outward endeavors! Find your balanced center. All future movement should come from your center for best results!
Also: increase your awareness. When you are not occupying yourself with taking care of details, take some moments of stillness and mindfulness of what your senses perceive around you! It is good practice for being observant and having general awareness. Additionally, you will find calmness, peace, tranquility, contentment, thoughtfulness, and insight! Calm awareness, thoughtfulness, and good judgment will be key in your future! Best wishes! :)
>>17490435
You need to ask questions more bby. Night
>>17490417
Why am I hearing Haley... Are with the wrong chick then?
Abort honey pot then and try for someone
Here in div
>>17490444
The Locke lamora series touches on soul transference.
>>17490445
Aries always leave... Seen any good shows lately I need a new one op
>>17490450
Honestly after he said he was a feminist male I lost all hope for this nation.
I bet mostly gay porn with bbc
>>17490455
>nice dubs
I will become the watcher, I will make sure of reach a good state in my awareness!
Have a good one! Moose out!
Thanks again!
>>17490457
You should try samurai champloo
>>17490464
>>17490410
Oh boy, can you get me a specifical detail about her? Something that let me know is her.. sorry if I ask to much.. is okay if you can't
>>17490449
I see a lot of pain and I think it's muscles and babby tearing.
I think you might need a non gluten fud too.
There's stuff you can take if you go to a health store. Like Nature remedys and go see a natropath instead of a doctor.
After see if you can see a reiki or shaman to pull the pain out.
>>17490457
this might be a bit different to ask but is it possible to switch souls between "dimensions". I've became aware of a different "me", elsewhere in a different world not fit for him. much like this world isn't fit for me, if we were to cross-swap souls it would seem like a win/win for the both of us. I apologize if this sounds crazy and unbelievable, but I'm hoping if there is any slim chance if such ritual exists.
>>17490474
Seen it .... I have like 330 series on DVD of anime... I was a real fag when I was younger.
>>17490474
It was slow for me to get into that, but then it was GREAT! And the music rules.
223
>>17490481
Yeah I'm interested in how you know it actually exists...
You can but this you can't stay learn to ap good. And you can possess you other self's body.
Really hard though. I've had nothing substantial come it.
>>17490478
Nice bubbly personality black hair shorter side. Has birthmarks.
>>17490457
I dunno! I don't know any Haleys! Not with the chick yet!
Too late to abort the honey pot! Just finished!
"Try for someone here in div"? To date? Lol. Or is there something I'm supposed to ask someone?
>>17490497
Thank you! I can feel she is my golden gal!
>>17490480
But what is this pain? Some curse? Or just a random pain by almost 4 years I guess
>>17490320
Sorry, I don't know what kind of cheery thing to post... um.. I really like to make people smile though! So I'll try hard to make everyone smile today! I hope you will smile today, too. You're great.
Cal
Male
Leo
Brown hair and blue eyes. Pretty tired.
Texas
A general please ;_; I'm so freaking upset about so many things. I'd appreciate it.
>>17490539
I got your back, happy pic inbound
>>17490507
wax in the water produced something that looked like a coccoon
>>17490320
Hey Chironymous, first time poster here :D
It is beautiful that you are seeking to heal yourself in order to help others. Different people are going to leave this thread and lead better lives because of you. I already feel better just reading your other posts. Thankyou.
Zachary
Male
Taurus
19yo just breaching adult life with his head far too often found up in the clouds. I care deeply about those in need, and am pretty self focused. Brown hair and blue eyes.
Australia
What do I need to do to find my purpose/path in life, or what is my purpose? (Do I need purpose to be successful?)
This whole divination thing seems so interesting, but I'm a muslim and it's haram for me to believe in it or practice it. Sad.
>>17490497
I remember before being reborn there was a powerful white flare, and I felt something was not right, soon after I felt there were two of me (possible soul split?) to describe this feeling is tough to put into words. I was born, unfortunately a part of me was left behind. I'm not sure what happened to it after that (I assume it was born else where, as i often had dreams where they feel too real to be fake (the world, the people i interacted with, and the smells. they felt exactly similar to this world). I also grew up feeling sort of "half-empty",(this was before i combined with a certain "spirit" later on in my life) (this i will provide details later on if you'd like to hear that). I have acknowledged that he exists based on how he can communicate with me at times. as well as how we can seem to share "memories (not all memories just the ones we choose)" some which include people i have never made contact or seen in this world before.
The world in which that other "me" resides in is the one i wish for.
and the one I am (this one) is the one he wishes for.
In the world he is in, you can become a god through soul absorption, as that allows manipulation of reality itself. The drawback to this in that world is you can't trust anyone. the world itself is in a chaotic state as there is no "higher" power of government, there is always war. (I wish to be in this world as my dream is to become a god and that world is as close as i can get to become one).
The "me" over there had told me he wishes for a more peaceful world (basically he described this one).
Honestly I would like for us to switch places as i am not doing too well in this world and he isn't doing too well on the other world either.
sorry for the wall of text this is the first time i've ever talked to anyone who i think may have an answer.
>>17490618
It's actually not quite that simple. Divination in Islam (kihanah) is haram if it is associated with non-muslim faiths but there is a long standing tradition of several types of soothsaying and prophecy in islam to the point that it is considered ulum. The opinions on this matter vary from scholar to scholar but I believe it is generally thought that divinely inspired gifts for prophecy and soothsaying are considered acceptable. Muslims have practiced various forms of astrology (they actually contributed a great deal of knowledge to this discipline), physiognomancy, chiromancy, omens, and other methods.
I am not a muslim myself, but I know more than a little bit about the history of divination, so take my words with a grain of salt, but there is actually a historical record of many forms of divination involved with Islam being considered acceptable. Perhaps what you are feeling is a calling?
Be well.
Hello divinators, long timer 4chan lurker but recently started browsing /x/
>Eric
>Male
>24
>Scorpio, introverted but at the same time outgoing in some social circumstances. Heavy smoker and drinker.
>South of Latin America
Tell me about the girl I like, she just got in the same university I am. Thanks.
>>17490641
Every time you post I admire and respect you even more than before, sèvis.
>>17490646
aww thanks onymous, just trying to spread the knowledge a little.
Hi /div/. First time doing this.
>Andor
>Male
>18
>Sagittarius
>Outgoing with people of the same age but quiet and shy with elder people. Muslim convert. Rarely smoking.
>I was born in Hungary but I've been living in Malaysia for 9 months now
What am I doing wrong? I'm an exchange student and my first 6 months here I was feeling so good, but now I'm feeling like a complete wreck, I couldnt learn the language, I feel like I wasted a year, and I feel distant with my family, even though in the first 6 months I was no doubt the happiest out of all 30 exchange students here. Now I feel like giving up.
>>17490320
This one is kind of long, but I like the saying of "This too shall pass" here is a summary of the saying's story www(.)experienceproject(.)com/stories/Cant-Change-The-Past-But-I-Can-Change-My-Future/2079435
SA
F
Aquarius
I wear glasses, longish dark brown curly hair, dark eyes, light skin, I love animals and having close friends, I am a shy and sensitive person
mexico
I came back with my boyfriend after having breaking up over a difficult situation, I love him a lot but I cannot stop thinking awful stuff, I'm having a hard work getting over my own anxiety which was the thing that started spoiling our relationship. I know that knowing if it will go good or bad is not going to calm me down. I want to know how to stop being clingy and anxious.
>>17490667
don't even need to read for this one...
I know its a cliche quote from star wars but... youve got your eyes on the horizon when you need to be paying attention to where you are and what you are doing.
You are 18 years old, no one is expecting you to move mountains right now. This is a time for learning and appreciating where you are. Recognize that everything is as it should be right now, stop focusing on what its supposed to be in the future. Language will come, time was not wasted, you just got over-focused on where you think you should be.
Reconnect with your family, forgive yourself a bit of time for working towards your goal, focus on where you are, and relax. Recognize that you are not farther, nor not far enough on your journey, you are precisely where you should be, here, and now.
Hey everyone. Just dropping in to say hi to everyone!
I'll give you guys this cute drawing I did.
Anybody doing readings
>>17490539
Oh no! I'm sorry you're so upset and that I was away and didn't see your message sooner! I know what it's like to be upset about many things and how not fun that is. You shouldn't have to feel that way.
The first part of your reading reveals the hexagram for "Decrease":
The stoic Mountain drains its excess waters to the Lake below:
The Superior Person curbs his anger and sheds his desires.
To be frugal and content is to possess immeasurable wealth within. Nothing of value could be refused such a person. Make a portion of each meal a share of your offering.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
This is an occasion for downsizing to fighting trim. Simplicity and economy are strong defenses against the slings and arrows of Outrageous Fortune. Whether this is a time of want or a time of plenty, it is an auspicious time to shed a dependency.
CONSIDER:
You approach with humble honesty and generosity.
This is a superior act.
Your future reading reveals a single, definitive hexagram! It is the hexagram for "Awesome Power!":
Thunder fills the Heavens with its awful roar, not out of pride, but with integrity; if it did less, it would not be Thunder:
Because of his Great Power, the Superior Person takes pains not to overstep his position, so that he will not seem intimidating or threatening to the Established Order.
Opportunity will arise along this course.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
The Awesome Power available in this hexagram stems from what the Taoists call your Te, a term not perfectly translated into English. Roughly, it is your Integrity -- not in the Western sense of honor -- but more in the psychological definition of a full integration of Who You Are. This Awesome Power is achieved only by fully embracing both the good and the bad, the strong and the weak, the masculine and the feminine -- all polarities within you. Such self-knowledge spawns a Mastery tempered with the humility necessary to rein in and harness this Awesome Power.
(Continued in another post...)
>Jose Julio
>Male
>25
>Libra Introverted, kind of depressed
>Dark hair, brown eyes.
>I've been lurking /x/ for years but it's my first time in /div/.
>Had an anxiety attack when I found I had tinnitus been pretty depressed these lat days. Getting better but still feel weak.
>born in Mexico, living in Spain since I was 10.
I would like a general please. I also heard some people here can even tell me what I've been in my past life if that's possible, if not, the normal reading would be great too.
Thanks in advance.
>>17490539
>>17490813
SUMMARY:
Although you are in want, you are unburdened by these assets and are leaner / more agile for the fight at hand. Shake off your hurt/upset and desires. Attain a firm, positive, can-do attitude, and do not get discouraged. Be consistent and persistent. Determined. Unshakable. Make do with what you do have -- the resources available to you. Find worth in yourself -- not the external. Consider your wants to be the sacrifices that were necessary in the progression forward. Be generous when you can. Such nobility and internal value will become a source of wealths for a cycle of warmth, comfort, joy, opportunity...
As long as you make certain to embrace Who You Are on this journey forward, you will find opportunity and exercise Awesome Power in more harmonious times to reach what will most bring you joy in life!
Keep your head up! Best wishes!
>>17490320
>David
>Aries
>male
>NC
>introverted yet talkative once I get to know someone
You have done a reading for me in the past and you were spot on! I would just like a general reading please. I feel a change coming in my life and I'd like to know if it is positive or negative. Things haven't been going well for me lately but I feel this deep connection with God/the Tao/ universe but I don't know what to make of it.
>>17490769
Hellos! Yay drawing! :D
>>17490773
>>17490314
Chironymous here, eventually doing I-Ching readings for whoever I can whenever I'm around, so definitely check back for a reply before thread's end!
I just need positive input*** to heal my wounds so that I may help others... and as much or as little of the following as you're comfortable giving me:
***Post something friendly, cheerful, helpful, upbeat, encouraging, caring, positive, or the like
*Name/nickname
*Gender
*Age
*Sign
*Description of yourself
*Locationish
*Query (one part/question only... two if absolutely necessary!)
>>17490823
I don't do past life readings, so you'll have to ask someone else here for that bit! But I can certainly do a general reading for you! I'm sorry to hear about your tinnitus, depression, and weakness. I hope you feel much better soon!
The first part of your reading reveals the hexagram for "The Mountain":
Above this Mountain's summit another more majestic rises:
The Superior Person is mindful to keep his thoughts in the here and now.
Stilling the sensations of the Ego, he roams his courtyard without moving a muscle, unencumbered by the fears and desires of his fellows.
This is no mistake
-
There is a higher vantage point available to you, but it is obscured by the visible peak of personal ambition. To climb to this higher plane, you must shake off the desires and fears of the conscious, visible world around you. To make this journey you must quiet the Ego, empty your mind of past and future, and dwell totally in the moment at hand. Thorough mindfulness of what is before you is the only tranquility.
Be. Here. Now.
CONSIDER:
His constant goal is an end to striving.
Good fortune.
Then, the hexagram for "Creative Activity":
Heaven above and Heaven below:
Heaven in constant motion.
With the strength of the dragon, the Superior Person steels himself for ceaseless activity
Productive Activity.
Potent Influence.
Sublime Success if you keep to your course
-
The time for action has come.
You now have the focus and the stamina necessary for accomplishing great tasks.
The path before you is being cleared and reward lies ahead
SUMMARY:
The past makes us depressed. The future makes us anxious. To live in the present moment brings us peace. Shake off your fears and desires. Still yourself and find tranquil contentment. Do not put so much pressure on yourself. Things will come in their own time as you take each step toward them. Focus on each step. You will grow in strength after each one, and you will find great satisfaction in all that you accomplish!
>>17490841
Hello! I'm glad my past reading for you was spot on! I'm sorry things haven't been going well for you lately, but I'm glad you're feeling a deep connection to ponder!
Have you read this version of the Tao Te Ching?
http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~phalsall/texts/taote-v3.html
The first part of your reading reveals the hexagram for "Recruiting Allies":
Deep Water beneath the Earth's surface:
Untapped resources are available. The Superior Person nourishes and instructs the people, building a loyal, disciplined following. Good fortune. No mistakes if you follow a course led by experience.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
You must gain support from others. Find a way to make others want to see your objectives met as badly as you want it. How can they profit from the attainment of this goal? Can you command confidence that you are just the person that can bring this plan to fruition?
CONSIDER:
It is never a mistake to retreat to a stronger position.
Then, the hexagram for "Enthusiasm":
Thunder comes resounding out of the Earth:
Similar thunder roars up from the masses when the Superior Person strikes a chord in their hearts.
Whip up enthusiasm, rally your forces, and move boldly forward.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
There is a rhythmic force, a world music, that lives deep in the Unconscious of each of us. It's a primitive drumbeat, a shaking rattle, a tribal chant that invokes the primal self to rise up and join the dance. This is the enthusiasm that is generated now. Not rhetorical persuasion, not a play on the emotions, but a charismatic, irresistible Call of the Wild. Confucius said that the person who could comprehend this could 'rule the world as though it were spinning in his hand.' This is a time for instinct, not intellect -- the Thunder from Beneath.
>>17490870
thank you for your time I'll reflect about what you told me
>>17490880
Thanks brother, I've read the Tao Te Ching a couple of years ago. I've been thinking about picking up the I Ching but I'm not sure it's the kind of book to read cover to cover. I'm also thinking about reading up on Tibetian Buddhism. I've been feeling and thinking very eastern now a days.
>>17490893
You're very welcome!
>>17490894
You're very welcome!
My favorite version of the I-Ching that I use here is:
http://www.ichingonline.net/
Reading up on Tibetan Buddhism sounds like a great idea! Definitely check out Zen/Zazen as well! Oh, and The Art of War and The Book of Five Rings are good too!
>>17490905
>http://www.ichingonline.net/
>>17490905
This is an awesome resource, thanks man!
>>17490953
I'm glad you think so! You're very welcome!
Thoth, if you're here, can you astrally fuck me please?
>>17490848
Something positive... I'll give you something my sister told me.. The prettiest flowers grow out of the biggest bullshit ;)
> Anna
> Female
> 24
> Taurus
> Short, quiet
> IL
I'd like a general reading please.
>>17491082
You have to be hawt for Thoth... He has standards.
>>17490769
Awe thanks
>>17490619
That's not good.... Why would you leave that planet for here. It's cute to see highly evolved lightwerkers coming to earth.
I thought they didn't keep there past though.
Your special. And I think as you come into your real power lvls and commune with him you won't be whole but feel a semblance of hope.
I really have this fucking problem too. As I have 9000 lives and like them more.
It only gets worse unless you come to a understanding....
Topkek "welcome to your life...there's no turning back...."
I wanna know more op.
>>17490609
Post it I wanna see.
>>17490539
I like TX something about your house... Can I see a pic of a outside window. I feel you have some fey babbs
>>17490527
It's a guide for you discovering a past life.
You need to look back to go forward.
>>17490507
I don't see why you want a relationship with a mundane your probably the most important part of div with the famous ring in your eyes.
Try for a magical girl bby
Hello thread. Hope we're all having lovely days. I'll be around, might do a reading or two but no promises. Been pretty out of it today, so we'll see how I feel.
Love and good vibes be with all of you lovely people
>>17491282
Morning Ches, how are you holding up?
>>17491282
Are you hot for Thoth? I haven't seen you :o has he and you fucked?
>>17491307
Hi Empath, don't want a reading just to thank you for the one you gave me in the previous thread. Happy Early Birthday, Did you enjoy your party?
>>17491322
Ches and I only bang in dreams, anon. It's magick!
>>17491255
That's awesome! Haha! Thank you tons!
The first part of your reading reveals the hexagram for "Durability":
Arousing Thunder and penetrating Wind. Close companions in any storm:
The Superior Person possesses a resiliency and durability that lets him remain firmly and faithfully on course.
Such constancy deserves success.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
Endurance is the key to success in this situation. However, durability is not synonymous with stone-like rigidity. True resilience requires a flexibility that allows adaptation to any adverse condition, while still remaining true to the core. Can you maintain your integrity under any circumstance? Can you influence the situation without giving opposing forces anything to resist? Then you will endure to reach your goal.
CONSIDER:
One must remain constant, or the only permanence will reside in disgrace.
Then, the hexagram for "Receptive Force":
Earth above and Earth below:
The Earth contains and sustains. In this situation, the Superior Person should not take the initiative; he should follow the initiative of another. He should seek receptive allies in the southwest; he should break ties with immovable allies in the northeast.
Responsive devotion.
Receptive influence.
Sublime Success if you keep to your course.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
This is a time for dealing with reality as it is, not as you would have it be. If you realize that in this situation you are the receptor, not the transmitter of the stimulus, you will find yourself reaching goals that seemed unattainable under your own steam. If you persist in futile efforts to be the Shaper rather than the Shaped, you will completely miss this unique opportunity.
>>17491057
You gave me a reading a few weeks ago and I want to thank you again. That's the most kindness anyone has shown me in a while.
I tried to follow your advice and just leave things be, and as soon as I started moving forward and putting him out of my mind and ignoring him he started to miss me and talk to me again, handing me a fresh opportunity to confuse and horrify the both of us with my renewed feelings which immediately became destructive. I'm stuck, and it's hard to be alone, but I can't attract someone new with this shitty attitude. 6 months after a breakup I shouldn't still be grieving, and continuing to make things worse. I just can't stop obsessing, and I'm scared to meet new people. I have very strange nightmares of places I've never been sometimes and recently woke up with a terrifying presence behind me. Maybe it was just from sleeping on my neck funny but I haven't felt safe in the dark since then, I can't even leave the house without a lot of hesitation and fear. There's still so much hurt. Any idea where to start healing myself?
Scorpio, F, Canada
>>17491342
>6 months after a breakup I shouldn't still be grieving
there's no time limit of grieving. it took me a year to get over a 4 month relationship, a few weeks to get over a year long relationship. try going on new dates, filling your time with hobbies, hitting the gym and just focusing on yourself. it'll get better, it always does.
>>17491323
You're welcome anon, I hope it helped/was insightful haha.
Thankyou. Not much of a party; don't have many (see almost none) friends but family dragging me out to shops was fun, despite not wanting to go
>>17491282
>I don't see why you want a relationship with a mundane your probably the most important part of div with the famous ring in your eyes.
That's sweet of you to say, but hardly! All the readers that came before me and formed this community deserve that title far more than I would!
>Try for a magical girl bby
Haha, a magical girl sure does sound nice!
Matt
22
Capricorn
Ginger living in the US
What will be the outcome of my current relationship troubles for me?
Answering questions for a while. Not doing readings. Ask me anything regarding magick, divination, etc
>>17491390
What's with chakras? I so much as walk by a room and I can feel mine shift in response to the thoughts or moods of the people in there.
I need to figure out what to do to further cultivate whatever the hell that is, and understand it better
>>17490848
I hope you're doing well Chinron, whatever wounds you feel need healing, I know you'll be strong enough to overcome these pains, and the people around you have your back when you need a rest from being strong.
You can refer to me as Klaynexas
I am a male
20 years old
Pisces
Imagine Shaggy with hipster glasses, Prog rock band t-shirts and a full beard.
North Carolina
Should I be taking a break from the dating scene for a bit longer, or am I ready to get back in there?
>>17490457
>You need to ask questions more bby.
You weren't on div for a while though. I tried summoning you w/ Jack White
>>17490464
I imagine him getting fucked by sjws/feminists with strap ons.
There's a little bit of a problem with that guy in my life that you refered to, he has pic related as gf. I don't think I can compete and she seems like a nice girl. I just think he's too Chad-tier for me.
Wut do
>>17491329
Aye Thoth
Apparently you posted dik pic on another board
Where would I find it?
>>17490320
>>17490848
"Be the person mr. Rogers believed you can be" is the most positive and motivating sentence I've ever heard. I hope it helps you too.
Aleksi
male
23
aquarius
quiet and shy, but strongly idealistic
Finland
I am not well. I've been diagnosed with depression and anxiety in the past, and lately I've been experiencing the worst period of depression of my life. I'm taking medication, but I know from past experience that, for me, a spiritual cure would be more effective than a chemical one. What I'd like to know is, what should I do to get myself out of this slump?
>>17491411
Honestly uninformed regarding chakras, but look into "empaths". You may very well be one (many are)
>>17491428
Shit if pic related was you then say so and get easy access (kidding).
It's somewhere in /v/ or /vg/. Have fun. I was underage when posting it years ago. 17 iirc.
>>17490848
Hello if you're still doing this I would love to have a reading!
Name: Rick
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Sign: Capricorn
Description: Reclusive
Location: Florida
Query: What should I do next?
>>17491482
Fair enough. Do you have any advice related to empaths, or should I just start digging?
>>17491501
You'll need to learn to control yourself, especially when exposed to others pure emotions.
I'd recommend stoicism, for one. The philosophy, that is.
Secondly, meditation. You need to learn to quiet the buzzing around you. And then you can begin using such skills to help others as well as your standing among them.
>>17490314
You gave me a love reading a long time ago, and it was about the universe shifting, and that I have to not get in the way.
Well, I see how that's true now. But instead of thinking there's an army in the way of my love, and me having to move from it, I see now that the force I had to move from was myself. My strength, exhalation, expression, freedom, existence, energy, power. I had to move away from blocking these things, because omg, it's intense.
>>17491501
I'd recommend activated your inner natural power. The trick is to know that your inner power will kick in in any situation, and therefor you don't have to have doubt, fear, worry, shame, grief, about lies, about illusions, nor physical attachments. Activate this freedom, and you'll activate everything else.
>>17491514
If you want to follow grandpa here, and his old ideals, born from men who thought they had to control and limit themselves for their actions to happen (right?), then go ahead. But I think it's 0.01% the speed of my method.
>>17491482
Was it under your trip?
I'll have to do sum archive digging
Nah not me, I'm the young ass camwhoring grill, but I've done shots w/ her a few times at parties
Control yourself, she's 15
>>17491342
You're very welcome! I'm glad I could be kind to you in the meantime before you begin the task of surrounding yourself with people who are kinder to you! You are awesome and deserve kindness!
I'm sorry you had such an unpleasant rehashing of things with your ex! Emotions can definitely be tricky and get the best of us with how strong they can be. I've certainly been there! Been stuck too! And I find it hard to be alone as well, so you're not alone in that! And yes, you have to be in a good place to begin a relationship, so that means getting yourself there. You must build up your strength mentally/emotionally/socially. It will take time and some effort, but you can and WILL get yourself to a good place again! Your outlook/attitude can and WILL improve if you set yourself to it, and that is the task at hand now.
What this poster said is correct:
>>17491347
There is indeed no time limit on grieving, and indeed some short relationships have long grieving periods and some long ones have short grieving periods. I've experienced them both as well, and I know how not fun the long grieving periods can be! But you can shorten it by occupying yourself with self-improvement, socializing, and doing things that you enjoy / make you happy! Treat yourself! Enjoy projects/hobbies, find new groups, meet new people, go on practice dates and maybe even some real ones!
I also know that it can be hard to stop obsessing, but keep yourself busy/occupied/distracted, and it will get easier / hurt less with more time keeping at it
Nightmares do happen sometimes! And at harder times! Don't freak out! That's just your mind gradually sorting things out! Take comfort in that! Ugh, I sleep funny on my neck too. :( Bleh! And I know it's hard, but try to stay calm and not fear / be paranoid. Remember to breathe! Nothing is out to get you! :D If the dark is still a problem, leave a light on or rock a nightlight! :D You need to find your confidence, dear. It's in there! I'm sure of it!
>You will be just fine, no matter what, you will be okay
>Rachel
>Female
>Aquarius
>Young, short, long curly hair. Green eyes. Crude sense of humor
>Scotland
> I want to know how im going to do on my exams and if there is anything I could do to help my marks
>Im really stressed, so thank you for any insight you give me
>>17491514
Thank you. I might find aspects of stoicism interesting and helpful. I can make more of an attempt to meditate, since I don't really "practice" it, I just sort of let my mind slip in and out of states throughout the day, as if I'm falling into a natural meditation. But I can see why that's unreliable for daily situations
>>17491331
Thank you for the reading, but I'm afraid I'm still pretty confused on what to do.
How can I adapt to the situation I'm in? Integrity is already gone, staying the same will just make it worse...
The second part talks about being the receptor; being passive I take it. I don't think I can remain passive, I don't have the strength to survive it any longer.
>>17491540
I see the wisdom in this, but what do I *do* to activate it? I already feel it kicking around to an extent, do I just trust it more or what?
>>17491553
From experience I-Ching readings are very metaphorical. Try applying it to things you didn't think it would apply to.
>>17491556
Be yourself, silly. It's the easiest thing in the world.
>>17491541
>implying age matters when they're 15 or over
Pfft
Anyways, it was without a trip. I bet someone here knows me well enough to find it. Don't be surprised if it pops up. >>17491551
I understand completely. As for the control aspect that T contested, it's for the purpose of not overwhelming you. Too much energy input and you'll burn out quick, or be confused on your own emotions. You must learn to separate the Other from the self.
Are you still doing this?
Name: Julieta
Gender: female
Age: 25
Sign: Capricorn
Description: hardworking and faithful
Location: Mexico
Query: I just broke up with my boyfriend after a stupid fight where he lost his shit (he has some type of anger issues) and I truly want some guidance on whether or not I should give him another chance (it's happened before, he gets furious and dumps me and then calls me to say he's sorry)
>>17491376
Your reading first reveals the hexagram for "Conflict":
The high Heavens over a yawning Deep chasm:
An expansive void where nothing can dwell. Even though he sincerely knows he is right, the Superior Person anticipates opposition and carefully prepares for any incident.
Good fortune if your conflict results in compromise.
Misfortune if your conflict escalates to confrontation.
Seek advice.
Postpone your crossing to the far shore.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
Conflict is a necessary part of life. Tension upon the strings of a violin can make majestic music. The critical mass of two hydrogen atoms trying to occupy the same space fuel the sun that nourishes our solar system. Most conflicts you face in life are the result of your Path converging with another's. Your Path is not his, and one Path is not necessarily more right than the other. Can you work together to remove the blockage?
CONSIDER:
Knowing his comrades would be annihilated against their much stronger foe, he orders a full retreat, retires into seclusion, and is condemned by the very neighbors he saved from ruin.
"Following":
Thunder beneath the Lake's surface.
The Superior Person allows himself plenty of sheltered rest and recuperation while awaiting a clear sign to follow.
Supreme success.
No mistakes if you keep to your course.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
Thunder from the Lake -- the lulling, rhythmic roar of the faithful tide, eternally wearing away the stone of the shoreline, forever obedient to the phases of the moon. The pull of the moon on the tide is the Following called for now. As mighty as the tide is in its own right, it is ever the puppet of the invisible, irresistible gravity of the moon. What cyclical forces pull you along? Are you futilely attempting to resist a natural attraction?
>talk of Empaths
to that anon, I'm more than happy to talk to you about it if you're interested. Skype is easiest right now (mrayner225) otherwise look out for me in future threads
>>17491411
Hop in the chat room linked in the very first post to talk to some other empaths!
>>17491594
Good idea, thank you
>>17490314
question. What is the point of divination general threads. There are so many now me might as well just have a board for them. Can someone explain to me why we have these?
>>17491570
15 is the prime peak age
Ok, I'll be on the lookout bb
>>17491615
Femanon here. I'm pretty good at digging. Give me some time and we'll have it ;)
>>17491607
We'd have EVEN MORE if we didn't pack tarot, I-Ching, runes, scrying, energy readings, etc. into divination general threads! There's usually a new and an old thread... and sometimes errant and/or lingering older threads as well.
I would personally not be opposed to a divination board if it got to be THAT high-traffic.
>>17491600
This is one of the empaths I was referring to (before I saw his post). Please contact him using the preferred details he provided, but you are still welcome in the chat as well!
>>17491570
There really /isn't/ an overwhelming. There's more energy storage in someone than you'd think. Producing energy is what burns you out (including trying to control it), rather than having energy go through you. You will never be confused by your own emotions. You'll worry that you're confused by your own emotions. There is no need to separate yourself from others' emotions, because you'll always know which are your emotions and which aren't. People aren't that dumb.
>>17491621
Well, what is the purpose of these threads. like, what do you do in them?
>>17491625
>>17491600
>>17491587
This is one of the empaths I was referring to (before I saw his post). Please contact him using the preferred details he provided, but you are still welcome in the chat as well!
>>17491617
Ok
You have my confidence and best regards
>>17491630
I'm speaking from my own experiences; which, admittedly, may be different than others. Also, you misunderstood my point. He must learn to interpret which comes from himself and which comes from another source.
But ayyy, why bother arguing with someone who thinks everything is objectively right or wrong?
>>17491633
OH! Using different methods of "divination", such as tarot cards, scrying from a mirror, consulting the I-Ching, "readers" give readings to answer queries/questions from "querents" regarding everything from a general outlook on one's life... to glimpses at future events... to help with specific issues/problems... to advice!
>>17491642
If you are speaking from your own experiences, why bother arguing? We're obviously going to have different points of views. I'm adding to conversation in order to help the new guy. I didn't think you'd interpret this as hostile.
Interpreting what comes from you and what comes from others is as natural as separating sounds, objects in an image, etc. It may seem hard at first, but it's super easy if you just trust your own senses.
Don't assume what I think :P
>>17491657
I understand how to interpret the difference. Have for years. But when I first experienced it early on in puberty it was some crazy fucked shit. Would not recommend.
Stop fighting with a douche that shouldn't even be here. Keep reading, mates
>>17491674
You must trust yourself more.
>>17491684
W-who are you referring to?
All readers are welcome
>>17491684
Ikr. Hostile behavior shouldn't be allowed on a thread contributing insight and information for the betterment of each individual.
>>17491427
Thank you so much!
Your reading has an interesting answer to your query!
First, the hexagram for "Enthusiasm":
Thunder comes resounding out of the Earth:
Similar thunder roars up from the masses when the Superior Person strikes a chord in their hearts.
Whip up enthusiasm, rally your forces, and move boldly forward.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
There is a rhythmic force, a world music, that lives deep in the Unconscious of each of us. It's a primitive drumbeat, a shaking rattle, a tribal chant that invokes the primal self to rise up and join the dance. This is the enthusiasm that is generated now. Not rhetorical persuasion, not a play on the emotions, but a charismatic, irresistible Call of the Wild. Confucius said that the person who could comprehend this could 'rule the world as though it were spinning in his hand.' This is a time for instinct, not intellect -- the Thunder from Beneath.
CONSIDER:
His music strikes a chord and wins hearts.
His trust makes them true, and brings great success.
(Continued in another post...)
>>17491427
>>17491695
Then, the hexagram for "Receptive Force":
Earth above and Earth below:
The Earth contains and sustains.
In this situation, the Superior Person should not take the initiative; he should follow the initiative of another.
He should seek receptive allies in the southwest; he should break ties with immovable allies in the northeast.
Responsive devotion.
Receptive influence.
Sublime Success if you keep to your course.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
This is a time for dealing with reality as it is, not as you would have it be. If you realize that in this situation you are the receptor, not the transmitter of the stimulus, you will find yourself reaching goals that seemed unattainable under your own steam. If you persist in futile efforts to be the Shaper rather than the Shaped, you will completely miss this unique opportunity.
IN SUMMARY, first get excited that you'll be getting back in there! Harness confidence and enthusiasm! Then just get out there and be chill and mingle! Don't go too hard or push! But instead be open to opportunity you find around you. When you aren't expecting it, you'll find what you're looking for... if it doesn't find you first. ;)
Diviners, when you feel something, get images/words etc... How do you know what you're perceiving is correct and not from the subconscious?
>>17491707
name: Stefan
Gender: male
Age: 23
Sign: Leo
Description: 182 cm, 73 kg, brown hair brown, eyes, assymetrical face, kinda depressed or at least sad all the time
Location: right now northern Italy
Query: can you tell me how my next months are going to be?
>>17491711
That's one of my greatests concerns
To help me with that I always ask for feedback, if what i'm saying makes sense and if it's being helpful.
>>17491711
This is why feedback is a vital part of /div/. I for one appreciate feedback immeasurably, especially for tarot as I'm quite new to it
>>17491738
You doing readings m8?
>>17491690
I wasn't referring to a reader. I was talking about these people coming to this thread to question the reliability of divination. I mean, why be a dick? If you don't believe in this, leave people alone
>>17491695
>>17491707
Huh, this will be interesting, I'm normally so used to being the one to make the first move and start a relationship and keep things going strong. This might be hard to keep chill enough to just let something happen, but at the same time, I do like the idea that for once maybe someone is going to be trying for me instead of the other way around. I'm ready to be the shaped honestly. Just have to wait and see how much I need to try and how much I need to keep it easy.
Anyway! Thank you for the reading! I hate that most of the time I want a reading it has to do with love readings, but hell, most everything else I just let fall into place, that's one of the few things I want to actively know about my life. But anyway, I do hope for the best for you man, whatever happens to be going on.
>>17491711
The doubt in general shouldn't exist. Much like empathy, divination/gaining insights comes from the self, and it's the self we should be enhancing. Mostly by embracing and allowing what is naturally there; empowerment comes naturally thereafter.
Doubt blocks our will to exist. By embracing your existence fully, you release doubt blocks.
>>17491799
Do you do readings?
>>17491746
Not now sorry anon, earlier I was. What's your query, might sneak you in when I'm on break.
>>17491825
I do yes. Though I think I need something specific to follow, so I can appease the querent somehow.
>>17491853
Are you doing readings now?
What do you need?
>>17491864
Just a query perhaps.
>>17491868
Hmm okay.
When is T going to make his move on me?
>>17491868
If you're willing to take another, what academic domain would I do well in?
>>17491868
Should I ask him out?
>>17491433
I grew up on good ol' Fred Rogers! He WAS the best, wasn't he?! Everyone should be the person he set the example to be!
I'm sorry to hear you're not well. I've struggled with depression and anxiety as well. It's certainly no walk in the park! Know that you're not alone in dealing with it and others of us know how hard it can get and wish you didn't have to feel that way also! Medication can be tricky but helpful. A spiritual cure? What inspires you? What are you passionate about (and yes, your strong ideals as well!)? Find your spiritual cure in/through these things. Take an assessment / list out what stirs good/moving/powerful feelings/joy/motivation inside you, and then do/embrace those things! And, if you can, seek out and surround yourself with people/groups who lift you up, not drag you down!
My very best, warmest wishes to you, friend!
Hold your head up!
It you try, it will get better!
I was skipped last thread. Male here, cancer, for any reader who is still around, just want to know if there is any future for my relationship.
Thanks
>>17491878
T? Hehe. Are you someone I know?
Are you the same person who wanted to know why someone was hot and cold?
It seems he's distant because he enjoys the activities he does for fun. Perhaps he doesn't need someone in his life right now? It seems he likes you, and enjoys spending time with you, but he's not completely ready for a relationship. As such, you should be able to give him time. If you try to force it, you'll be in a wonky relationship, that is forced.
As to answer the question, it seems he won't for while. At the moment, at least 2 months. Unless he is super horny, or suddenly has needs (of which would be what he thinks he needs; peer pressure from friends for example).
I'm getting insights on your relationships, but it's hard to interpret.
>>17491884
I'm getting science. Math is a closer second. Art is like second bottom lol.
I'm not getting further insights on your career.
>>17491898
I'm getting a strong no, with a slight shine of yes. It seems, in some ways, you. aren't ready. If you were to ask him out, and it were to succeed, the relationship would not have much driving it. The only reason why there is a yes, is because you share a common interest, that you both really want to express. But there won't be much more than that to the relationship.
Further insights: look into cars. I have a feeling you'd be interested in how cars work, and their builds. You'd benefit from looking closer at things to figure out how they work.
Exploring your interests would offer you more depth in your relationships. You're not ready to explore raw romantic feelings.
>>17492062
What up Trex? How's the day going. Feel like giving me a read, you're always hilarious. All good if you don't, I don't need one anyway
>>17491483
Query: What should Reclusive Rick do next?
First, your reading reveals the hexagram for "Difficulty at the Beginning":
Thunder from the Deep:
The Superior Person carefully weaves order out of confusion.
Supreme Success if you keep to your course.
Carefully consider the first move.
Seek help.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
New ventures always pack along their inherent chaos. Though this is an annoyance at best, and can even imperil or downright doom an endeavor, it is also the friction needed to polish your project to jewel brilliance. Learn from these early obstacles.
CONSIDER:
A hunter who pursues his prey without a guide will lose his way in the deeps of the forest.
The Superior Person knows his limitations and gives up the chase.
To advance brings regret.
(Continued in another post...)
>>17492062
Can you tell me if i wil find love soon?
>>17491483
>>17492078
Then, the hexagram for "Attraction":
The joyous Lake is cradled by the tranquil Mountain:
The Superior Person takes great satisfaction in encouraging others along their journey. He draws them to him with his welcoming nature and genuine interest.
Supreme success.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
There is no greater natural law in the Cosmos than Attraction. From the magnetic pull of an atom's nucleus to the centrifugal force that spirals a galaxy, the face of the universe is shaped by Attraction. On a human scale, it is Attraction that fuels procreation and furthers our species. Yet it is also Attraction that spawns greed and covetousness, threatening our extinction. Attraction is the underlying force of the situation in question. You are refined or debased by the objects of your desire. What gravitational pull are you now under? Around what sphere of influence do you circle? Can you use your own ability to attract?
SUMMARY:
What you may have to do next, no matter what you do, is overcome some obstacle! You'll just have to stay headstrong. :) Since you are beginning a new venture, these things are to be expected anyway! The battle is part of the journey!
As for WHAT you should/will be doing next? Hunting for it! But you'll get lost and not find it if you don't know your way, so use the resources that are available to you, and you'll find your way! ;) Just make sure you know yourself! KNOW your strengths and weaknesses!
Then, know what attracts you. Know who attracts you! With knowledge of yourself and of the goal(s) appropriate to you, the hunt is on and the game is afoot! Either lure it to you or GO GET IT!
>>17492062
Do you see anything happening with me and my crush??
>>17492062
>I'm not getting further insights on your career.
That's alright, some confirmation of direction is all I needed.
Could you tell me anything about my love life? There's a guy I'm interested in, am wondering if you see mutual feelings?
>>17491522
Hello again! I'm glad you found truth in the reading and in your own insights! May your growing wisdom serve you well on your path!
>>17492117
Thank you, Chironymous, it's always good to get a reading from you! I do hope whatever ails you clears up quickly and speedily!
>>17492145
You're very welcome! I'm glad my readings have served you well! Thank you so much!
>>17492077
I'm trying to follow my own philosophies, but it's harder than I thought. Doubts aren't unblocked for some reason.
Hmmm, you have a lot of things in your life managed, both consciously and intuitively. It seems you're blind to manage something to do with things that are in your immediate life, but aren't entirely close to you. You're simply hesitant. It seems you're interested in feminine energy, but something you might not know, is that this feminine energy is coming from yourself. You're more feminine than you realize. It seems you want more from your life. There's just a bit of stagnancy. If you were to open yourself up to more possibilities, things would flourish naturally. Your dog's cute. Uhhh, there's more but third eye's starting to get blocked due to social pressure. There's something nagging at you. It has elderly woman energy. It may be a local spirit, or someone physically. Something about orangish rivers. It isn't flowing in your ethereal realm as much as it should be. There may be a pleasant person giving you flowers today. Insights are getting hard to interpret. Something about a young man and a lamp. Enjoy your day :)
>>17492097
You might. I mean, there's a lot of stuff you need to work on, but finding people who mutually need the same work won't be too difficult. People with similar problems tend to draw together. However, this won't mean that you will love eachother. But anything can happen. If you want a purer form of love, I'd suggest working on yourself, and love will be drawn to you naturally.
>>17492123
Not necessarily. You're obviously too shy to pursue him or her. But it doesn't seem like the timing is right. The whole thing is sort of just for fun, so if it does happen, things would get too serious too fast. This might be something you're both aware of. If something does happen, I recommend staying friends.
>>17492133
No mutual feelings. You're strictly work friends/acquaintances. Your lofe seems it will be healthy.
(cont.)
>>17492187
Hey Rex.
Could you give me a love reading? Am I going to meet a Qt any time soon?
>>17492187
Thanks man, you're a legend. Very astute reading, in many ways you probably don't understand. Thanks again man, I owe you a reading.
>>17492097
>>17492187
>finding people who mutually need the same work won't be too difficult
well it sure as hell has been difficult for me
>>17492133
He's simply not ready for such things. Your love life seems it will be healthy. It will be easy going, and active. There will be little obstacles.
>>17492139
Thank you!! I hope you find guidance as well ^_^
>>17492197
You will, but you'll be too weird for her to accept you. You see love as a warm, nice breeze in your life, and many people simply don't share the same idea. Your love life will improve if you open your mind as to the many kinds of love, and the many ways love can be.
>>17492199
You're welcome. Thanks for the recognition (and feedback)! I wouldn't be here if it weren't for a decision pending on another reader.
>>17492209
You'd be surprised. Not many people are visible with their problems.
Go right now, and share your problem with your social circle. You'd be surprised to find that people are going through the exact same thing.
>>17492157
>>17492117
hey Onymous, just a question since I dont think I've seen you mention it before, but are you adjusting your readings for your old yin and old yang outcomes?
>>17492209
>>17492214
Well i meant it as people that are potential mates
also my social circle isnt that big
>>17492230
Oh lol. You're still young (your social circle is immature), so you won't find love at the moment. Bask in the mutuality for the time being, and you'll find your time enjoyable until then :)
>>17490848
Keep helping people on /div/ and you'll soon be a master diviner!
>Roy
>male/masculine
>19
>Libra (virgo if using the Vedic system)
>I dress like a poor man. I'm lazy and waste a lot of time. I love spirituality and politics.
>Miami, USA
I want to know what I should do now to progress spiritually.
>>17492214
Thank you, Rex.
I actually don't see love the way I used to.
Take care
>>17492218
Changing old yin/yang are the source of the "CONSIDER" glue-text between the two (1.Before/First changing to 2.After/Then) hexagrams.
There is no additional text for a single, definitive, unchanging hexagram.
>>17491868
If you're down, can you read for me on the chick I'm thinking of? Thanks.
Hi guys, good to see you're still around!
Spread the love with some wisdom on top :)
Can I get a love reading? Lots going on, hard to describe here
Robin
Male
29
Libra
Description; open and flowing!
Query: What's going on this time? :D
Doing three (3) readings. Using either Tarot or scrying. Just tell me which of the two you want.
For Tarot I'll need:
>first name/nickname
>location (state/province)
>query
For scrying I'll need:
>first name/nickname
>tell me something you're passionate about (hobbies, subjects, ideologies, people, etc.)
>your query
I'm new so take everything I say with a grain of salt. It's good if you ask the same question to multiple readers so you'll get a more accurate answer. Please give me feedback, I want to know if I'm doing things right. First 3 people to reply get read.
>>17492308
L
Music, books and languages
Future love reading, please?
Thank you
>>17492270
No problem.
Our view on love can shift the more we figure out about the world :)
You too. Thanks.
>>17492276
She a skanky skanky stanky skank. She'll get in your pants without a second blink. If you want love, you got another thing coming. It may be too difficult to get through to her. You may want to take extra care on the things you may lose. Parts of yourself you may lose, if you were to pursue her.
>>17492279
Uhh, like you said there's a lot. As with your generation, you're focusing on the mechanical aspects of the situation, rather than the emotional ones. It seems you may be stuck on something, because there isn't enough /emotional/ flow. Seems convenient to mention one after the other. In order to do this, you may want to focus on things that have no reason, no purpose, or structure. It will bring you happiness through enlightenment.
As for what's going on, it seems there's just a bit of drama going on. It's not that big of a deal.
>>17492272
oh ok, I just was curious if you were taking them into consideration, you clearly are. That was all!
>>17492308
Cat
Mexico
GIve me some advice to find love
>>17492246
im 20
god damn, first you say i will then you say i wont
>>17492333
Cool! And now the basic explanation's there for anyone else who might be curious as to how that stuff works! :)
>>17492308
Emily
BC
general future, what to look out for
music, reading, art, shitposting
I'm unsure whether scrying or tarot would be better suited, up to you
>>17492308
Tarot:
B
California
Money is very scarce, will this change soon?
Scrying:
B
Gaming, leading, creating, conquering
The same question, just looking to know if money will come soon.
>>17492326
>She a skanky skanky stanky skank. She'll get in your pants without a second blink.
She's actually a virgin. Thanks for trying.
>>17492361
maybe she's just a skanky virgin
>>17492342
You may find love through the people you run into, though it may not be as pure/stable as you'd want it. If you want a pure love, find more emotional growth with people who share your problems.
>>17492361
You're kind of thinking of a different "chick" more. I do sense a virgin, but you're barely thinking of her. She doesn't have enough qualities that you find appealing.
>>17492347
I think were probably still speaking a foreign language if people dont have any experience with it.
Fun fact, African Ifa divination, using cowry shells (except they use four instead of three) is very very similar to the i ching with broken/unbroken lines, and has certain readings much like old yin or old yang in which the meaning changes. Unfortunately the interpretations of Ifa are very guarded and only taught through oral tradition.
Even they don't write most of them down and only learn the interpretations by memorizing songs containing the meaning, taught from the master to the student over many generations. There are hundreds and hundreds of possibilities though, just like the book of change.
There is a simpler form of Ifa which uses the coins/shells for a gradient of Very yes/yes/probably yes/unknown/probably no/no/definitely no and dont ask again its bad luck
Just interesting that they both developed such a similar system of mathematical divination based on solid lines, closed lines, and the fall of a coin/shell, apparently independently.
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>>17491868
There's a few different girls in my life right now, T-Rex. Can you tell me what the future is looking like with J, L, and M?
>>17492322
>>17492308
I don't know what gender you're into but I saw a man and a woman having sex. I also saw a red-headed woman. She's skinny, wearing short shorts, was waving at me. I also received the name "Jonathan". He's either the person you might date or you might meet someone through him.
Out of curiosity, are you an angry person? I feel like that's something hindering you in the love department.
>>17492394
I can over react sometimes, working on that already. I'm a Straight man.
How was the woman I had sex with? I don't know any Jonathan.
>>17492326
Thank you so much! It's a lot like you described. Hmmm, focusing on small or pointless will do fine!
Ty have a good one!
>>17492373
tell me something really nice t-rex, pls
>>17491868
Do have any natural ability for divination?
![tumblr_ngdvcaHhrt1tpypfzo5_250[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/esWQykt.jpg "tumblr_ngdvcaHhrt1tpypfzo5_250[1].jpg")
>rejected by another chick
off to /r9k/ i go
>>17492373
Hello I hope I'm not bothering you but I was wondering if I could get a read
I'm a 20, Aries male
Could I get a general love reading from you? Will I get a chance with E again or is she gone forever?
>>17492442
there's gotta be a girl out there for you somewhere anon
>>17492391
Very cool about Ifa!
If I recall correctly, I-Ching came along as a more formalized system for divination than the even older method of reading bones (which I'd LOVE to learn how you do!). I love that they tried to formalize I-Ching in logic based on concepts pertaining to elements, frigging BINARY (2 to the 6th power = 64 hexagrams (or 8x8)) permutations of broken/unbroken no/yes 0/1 yin/yang lines, and a sort of "best out of 3" coin tosses for generating each of the definitive/changing lines of the initial hexagram (and I have no effing idea how yarrow stalks work).
The huge number of unique readings from the permutations/combinations in systems like tarot, I-Ching, and Ifa is indeed astounding!
Meanwhile, you make the simpler form of Ifa sound like a Magic 8-Ball. ;)
The independent development of Ifa and I-Ching and their similar approaches and results are definitely interesting!
Thanks for schooling me! :)
>>17492448
I should have figured they said no considering i got 4 of pentacles..
>>17492373
>You're kind of thinking of a different "chick" more.
I made sure to get the right one in my head by focusing conciously when I queried and listening to music that reminds me of her.
>I do sense a virgin
Care to tell me about her?
>>17491550
Thank you!
>Crude sense of humor
We ARE on 4chan! ;p
I'm sorry you're stressed! Try to keep a calm, cool, confidence, and remember to breathe. ;)
The first part of your reading reveals the hexagram for "Inner Truth":
The gentle Wind ripples the Lake's surface:
The Superior Person finds common ground between points of contention, wearing away rigid perspectives that would lead to fatal error.
Pigs AND fishes!
You may cross to the far shore.
Great fortune if you stay on course.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
The subject of this hexagram discovers a key to Tranquility by first gaining insight into his own nature, then turning that vision outward. By resolving inner conflicts and being at peace with himself, he learns to gain insight into others. In effect, he enters another, sees with the other's eyes, listens with the other's ears, feels with the other's heart. He then returns to his own center, with new perspective and understanding.
The second part of your reading reveals the hexagram for "Creative Activity":
Heaven above and Heaven below:
Heaven in constant motion.
With the strength of the dragon, the Superior Person steels himself for ceaseless activity.
Productive Activity.
Potent Influence.
Sublime Success if you keep to your course.
SITUATION ANALYSIS:
The time for action has come.
You now have the focus and the stamina necessary for accomplishing great tasks. The path before you is being cleared and reward lies ahead.
SUMMARY:
Stay on course. Do not have rigid perspectives that could undermine/sabotage you. First rest, and attain calm -- INNER peace and order -- so that you may smoothly, fluidly, easily bring the order you seek to your OUTER world!
Then you will be primed to best accomplish the tasks set before you! Ceaseless, productive activity! Potent influence! Action! Focus! Stamina! Energy! Sublime success, great accomplishment, and reward! Best of luck to you!
>>17492338
>>17492308
Current situation: Ace of Swords reversed. I think this means that you're not sure what it is that you want. Define what it is that you're looking for in a relationship.
Obstacles: Eight of Swords reversed. I don't think that the reversal has any meaning here. The environment that you're in isn't helping. Maybe your family doesn't want you to get into dating, or your friends. I'm not telling you to ditch your family, but you might want to keep your soul-searching hush-hush for now.
>>17492410
I don't know how she was, maybe she was the redheaded woman. You might meet a Jonathan in the future, it didn't feel like you knew him already.
>>17492457
>even older method of reading bones (which I'd LOVE to learn how you do!)
The chinese oracle bone readings are actually scapulomancy or plastromancy by way of pyromancy. In english: Take a turtle shell, or an ox shoulder, carve yoru question in the bone, get an iron red hot or otherwise heat the bone/shell and it cracks, you then interpret based on the cracks. Im not sure if this was an intuitive art, or if they were looking for specific shapes in the cracks or what.
The kind of bone reading I do is more similar to hoodoo bones, or african sangoma traditions, in which a bag of bones (and/or curios) is cast. Its something between tea leaves and rune readings, and is unique to every reader.
>2 to the 6th power = 64 hexagrams (or 8x8)
Ifa is even worse, there are 256 base figures called the "odu" each one of these odu have a complicated oral history behind them and there are generally in excess of hundreds and hundreds of lines of story PER odu. Each line of which is a divinatory tool. How these lines are extracted is a secret to the Ifa Babalawo (ifa readers). That's thousands and thousands of possible meanings per reading, and the Ifa is "alive" it continues to grow with new readers. Its really a lifetime calling.
>how yarrow stalks work
Basically, its just another number randomizer like flipping the coins, it has to do with sorting out the stalks between your right and left hands fingers and counting them. I dont know how it works, but its not difficult or hidden, you could do it, it just takes forever. Go on a google adventure!
>simpler form of Ifa sound like a Magic 8-Ball.
Well technically it's not Ifa at that point, just the same as getting yes/no answers from three coins isn't I ching anymore.
>systems like tarot, I-Ching, and Ifa is indeed astounding!
Ifa actually has the most by far, but it's also a completely guarded discipline, impossible to learn, and in my opinion it might be overly complicated for anyone who's not a yoruba.
>>17491553
I'm afraid I'll need a more specific query than a general one if we are to more directly address those issues with a reading + interpretation!
>>17492533
are you doing readings man?
>>17492531
OK, Thank you man. Good luck.
>>17492308
Jefry
General/love
I enjoy the sumerian culture, bmx, and playing bf4 on my ps3..
Scrying please
>>17492544
I wasn't planning on it, I was just watching the thread and having some theory discussion, I suppose it depends on the question though. What's up?
>>17492533
Awesome info as always! :)
>>17492576
i just got rejected for the second time in a month
and im pretty desolate right now; just wondering when/if it'll get better
>>17492602
Sorry you're feeling down anon...
>rejected for the second time
By a reader? Or a love interest?
What's the question exactly? Just "is it going to get better?"
>>17492607
rejected by a love interest, i didn't ask the same person though
question: is my love life going to change in the near future?
>>17492352
>>17492308
The cards weren't speaking to me so I did scrying.
I felt like a secret of yours was going to get out. I think a friend of yours who knows is going to tell. It reminded me of a card I had pulled for you, the Devil reversed (usually dealing with vice). Make sure that whatever skeletons you have in the closet don't get out.
>>17492576
I hate to jump on the wagon, but I rarely catch you when you're reading. I've been struggling with depression for over ten years now, and I need a way out of this. I was able to deal with it before, but it's gotten really bad lately. I already meditate, work out, have hobbies, and socialize, but it's not doing anything for me anymore.
If you don't have time right now, it's cool; I'll hit you up when I see you doing readings.
>>17492630
I make it a policy to tell people in your situation that you really need to see a doctor. Please understand this is not meant to dismiss your trouble. I am just not a medical doctor, and if you have been suffering with your depression this long you need a medical professional. All of the things you mentioned can help certain people, but it sounds to me like you need some help in breaking you out of the cycle. While I can console and talk, I can't ultimately help. I really really encourage you to see a therapist or doctor to work this out. Ive dealt with depression for a lot of my life and I can give first hand recommendation to the process.
>>17492612
your reading is confusing... what the hell is going on with you outside your love life? Are you a female? Im seeing a young male figure in your reading that's important, but everything else is all jumbled. Whats going on with your sense of self? Why are you confused as to what you are?
>>17492663
>>17492612
I am a female... not really confused to what i am, just lonely :\
>>17492677
ok let me sit on this a second, Ill get back to you in a minute, I need to think about this one.
>>17492663
I'm poor as shit and have no insurance, so I can't see a doctor. They make me paranoid anyway. Thanks, have a nice day.
>>17492626
Shit
Can you give any description of what it will concern? I probably have a few things that it could be, but nothing is coming to mind right now.
>>17492690
alright take your time thank you
im not going anywhere
>>17492705
The thought of drugs came into mind. But I'm not too sure that it'll be that.
>>17492607
Hey sevis, could you spare me a love reading? I'm having such a bad luck lately. Do you see anything good soon?
Also, last year you gave me a reading regarding a love interest of mine, you said she would reject me... She did :(
I'm male
>>17492607
Sevis, give me a reading?
Depressed because I have no money and am wondering if my luck will change soon. Also hoping to know what the future has in store for my love life. Thanks.
>>17492717
I'm a good grill
Never done drugs, haven't even tried weed.
Either way, I'll keep an eye out m8
>>17492690
Everyone's gonna start hitting you up for readings, but I'll try anyway
What do you see with me and Alicia? She used to be my best friend's FWB (she might still be for all I know), but she still wants to keep me on hold for a potential boyfriend... >.>
Whatever you decide to read, I won't be surprised
>>17490641
sèvis could I please get a reading regarding a love interest of mine? I Ned help figuring out how to get in contact with them, and what night happen if I do.. it's complicated... I hope you can help me it's really affecting my life in a very negative way :(
>>17490618
One of my students is Muslim. She has a true gift, and it would be a damn shame if it went to waste.
>>17492701
There are free options at your local colleges, and there are therapists who work on sliding scale, you can get help. Im not sure what to tell you about the paranoia though. I really do hope youll reconsider.
>SEVIS LOVE READING PLS
guise pls. I usually don't even do love readings. If half of you just shared emails, these love issues would probably resolve themselves. ok here we go...
>>17492710
I need to know what it is you're so eager to keep secret, I mean I guess I dont need to know the actual secret, more why it's so important to you. Your reading is going in two different directions, and it's got confusion and unanswered questions all over it. We need to figure out what some of that is before we can even think about love.
I didn't pull for any of these, but, my advice on the following:
>>17492730
>you said she would reject me
Did I? I very rarely say stuff like that, do you have an archive link or anything?
>>17492750
Money has a funny way of making your luck turn around doesnt it? Id say work on your self sufficiency (job and money) before you worry about your love life anon.
>>17492760
>she still wants to keep me on hold for a potential boyfriend...
Do not accept this, tell her to make up her mind.
>>17492764
Im not sure how to tell you to get in contact with them... have you tried googling them? My instinct is to tell you that this love interest isnt whats negatively effecting you, it's your problem with prioritizing.
>>17492827
No, I don't have a link.
But you said she wouldn't accept my moves, we wouldn't be together, maybe in the future.
You were right
>>17492827
>>17492710
secret? i guess its important because i still have hope for the first guy that rejected me. we would both benefit greatly from the relationship and he's the first person I met that i feel really attracted to. im hoping for anything for us to still be together and my hope is practically an obsession at this point and trying what i can (distantly) for us to be together
Anybody here doing readings? I never got mine and I'm like truly confused about what to do :c
>>17492843
>You were right
well, shit. I like being right about medical conditions or something that can help someone, I hate being right about bad shit.
What's going on with your bad luck? whats happening?
>>17492848
Ok now we're getting somewhere. You helped me understand one of my bones a little more now, thanks for that. Your obsession and determination here is absolutely focused on this guy. You are basing a great deal of your concept of the future on it and it is hurting you badly. Look the truth is, we all experience rejection, sometimes with a good reason, sometimes not. The only sane way forward is to accept it and keep moving. You have to experience rejection, but you do not have to suffer it.
I also misread the bit about you not knowing who you are, that is not the problem. The problem is that you have problems showing your own courage and self-esteem. Why do you think this is a problem? People are attracted to confidence dear. Especially men. Well, any men worth your time anyway.
Either way this obsession is pulling you in a different direction than your path and its getting you tied up in a knot. He may eventually come back, maybe he wont, either way, you need to focus on YOUR path, and stop hanging the future on this relationship happening or not happening. You have focused your will, your wishes, and your energy on another person much too hard, its time for some you time. I know you said you're lonely and you think you've had plenty of "me time" but you're not using it for your own betterment.
Focus on your individual life, reinforce yourself, don't be afraid to show others who you really are and move forward.
Also, just a little aside, keep an eye on your finances please, if this keeps up this way Im getting the impression theres going to be trouble down the road. Not immediate, but it's coming if you don't get a grip on it.
>>17492827
how do i get over the fact that my skills arent showy and unappreaciated and all my short comings are on the other hand are look down to
>>17492890
this was me btw, dropped my name
>>17492914
Im assuming you're the one who I told to focus on your job and self sufficiency first? I'm not really sure how to advise you on your whole career, what kind of skills do you have that "aren't showy"? Is there some reason you are not employable or something?
>>17492927
hey sevis i sent you an email a few days ago, did you get it? i want to make sure hotmail wasn't fucking up
>>17492827
>Do not accept this, tell her to make up her mind
It's already been very heavily implied. Do you see any other women I should look for in her place?
>>17492890
Well, that's OK :(
>my bad luck
I can't find someone, and whenever I find someone interesting , something happens and everything falls apart, like I'm meant to be alone.
>>17492914
>>17492927
nope, im new poster
Im good at math and programming things, its not that im employable. its that society cant see or cares about the level of skill that i have while a useless artist can make something pretty but useless and get recognition.
And im pretty shy which is dooming and may as well negate a lot of things i can do
>>17492890
what does my path lead to? what does this obsessed path leads to?
>>17491578
Ugh, there are two sides to that story... but it all comes down to how angry he gets... and you used the word "furious", which is a strong word, and we wouldn't want that to lead/escalate to violence, especially since the anger is an issue and the angry breakup fights have happened before. Besides, it's not fair to you emotionally, and emotional/verbal abuse can be on par with as bad as physical abuse and have the same effects (think PTSD, etc.). I'm usually all for second chances, but if he's had three strikes already without talking to him about it and his learning to control himself, he should definitely be out... and it sounds like he should most probably be out sooner (NOW) anyway!
ill do tarot readings for pics of gareth campesinos
give me yer name
I like this girl at work. She seems really sweet. Should I ask her out despite my past? Need am actual reading, not just advice please
>>17492956
>gareth campesinos
who?
>>17492956
Call me B
What do you see, /div/?
>>17492956
Oscar
give love reading
>>17492975
So there's heartbreak in your past, yes? Someone broke your heart.
Now you're in this situation where you're faced to make a difficult choice. You don't want to make this choice though, you're just sitting there stagnant. You must give in and have faith in your intuition and in a connection with higher source energy to get you through this time. When you do this, you are allowing for your inner peace to be restored which will breathe the life back into your veins. Consider the fact that you are unable to see your options, so your personal perspective may be skewed.
Fear not, you are turning a corner and leaving behind one of the worst chapters in your life after you make this choice. Future shit won't be as bad as this. Not ever again. Your world is about to get brighter, as it hardly could ever be any darker than some recent dramas you have encountered.
In the future it gets better, so much better for you. A new person will come along in your life. It's a new beginning for you and you're going to love it. It'll make you so happy. You'll feel anew. You'll feel like you can do anything with this person. Keep your chin up anon.
>>17493020
looks kind of like blood clots floating in water.
>>17492956
luv reading
Is the guy I like the one?
>>17492956
call me marina
love reading if you please
>>17493034
God, you seriously just gave me the will to keep living. Thank you so fucking much.
>>17492956
Call me Brandon. I'll take a love reading.
>>17492956
Y.
Love reading, please
>>17493044
Also, name is Maddy
>>17492953
Thank you very much! What you told me is just what our friends have told me, and I do know everyone's right. I guess I wanted some sort of magical/astral advice, something beyond human thinking.
