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What for you is most definitive piece of evidence that JFK was assassinated by an elaborate conspiracy or by Lee Harvey Oswald alone.
I don't know about definitive, I tend to be a bit too much of a skeptic, but the piece of evidence that to me opens the largest amount of evidence comes from Curt Gentry's J. Edgar Hoover biography. (Gentry is the same guy who wrote Helter Skelter about Manson)
Anyway, he discusses how a few weeks prior to the assassination, Oswald visited a Dallas police office, and was rather threatening. I can't remember all the specifics, but he indicated he would perform some act of violence unless the tailing/following of him stopped, and even left behind a note.
The day of the assassination, Hoover very quickly decides that it was a lone assassin-long before he could have feasibly gathered the information to figure this out, so he was working toward a conclusion he already had in mind, not seeing where the evidence led him. In addition to this, he apparently called RFK, who described him as having a rather upbeat tone, considering the moment. (It's believed that JFK and RFK were working together to oust Hoover as director of the FBI; rather than doing it outright, they planned to just let his waiver to serve beyond the mandatory age of retirement lapse without renewing it.)
Anyway, spiraling back to the note: apparently it was destroyed very quickly thereafter, and the officer in charge was described as being a very by-the-book, upstanding sort of fellow; unless he had been ordered, according to Gentry, it's very, very unlikely he would have taken this action of his own accord. Purely circumstantial, but combined with Hoover's insistence it was a lone gunman, as well as later Congressional investigations deciding information had been withheld, and the (10, I believe) file cabinets that were Hoover's secret files he had his secretary destroy after his death, makes you wonder. Not just about JFK, but about how many other nasty secrets Hoover had lurking around.
>>17826146
*largest amount of suspicion, not evidence, fucking typoes
About Hoover's secret files: I found it particularly interesting that he instituted a policy wherein he would be sent the only extant copy of sensitive materials and all others were to be destroyed. Incredibly suspicious. Gentry remarks that at least some of the contents of them can be put back together because some agents realized that the files were valuable and so tucked away their own private copies, starting their own mini secret files... just all sorts of bizarre, paranoid, neurotic behavior in the FBI back in the day.
Also, extensive lengths were gone to to prevent the files being obtained by the people who were searching for them. The biography recounts several people trying to find them and being lied to by FBI agents about their existence: "There are no secret files..." Then, later, "Well, that's not the term we used. If he had used to proper term, I would have told him."
That sort of pedantic wordplay certainly raises other questions about what they were so determined to hide that Hoover was involved in. Likely not all of it had to do with Hoover's homosexuality and possible crossdressing, unless he was a real kinky bastard.
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It was the Clinton family.
Okay, I don't really know how to do this considering I'm an edgy /b/fag, the only other board I've ever posted on is /mu/ and it was only twice.
Anyways, I wanted to talk about some strange occurences that have been happening to me recently.
>Pic semi-related
I work at this shitty meat shop 7 hours a day, in the freezer. I have to make sure everything stays at the right temperature and none of the meat touches the walls, floors, etc. because my boss is too cheap to hire a fucking janitor. Regardless, I have one other guy working with me because it's a pretty big freezer.
Regardless, we do our job well, my co-worker in the freezer and I are pretty close friends, we've gone out for beers a couple times and he even invited me to a barbecue at his house once. While I was there, I noticed a bunch of weird decorations; his explanation was "treasures from his ancestors." His mom's side of his family is Native American, most of the stuff was weird masks, spearheads, the like.
Ever since then, I've begun to notice that he wears this weird necklace he always has on over his coveralls at work. It basically looks like a tiny mask. There's hinges on it but I've never seen him open it up
Since Monday, there have been increasing amounts of incidents regarding meat falling off hooks, being too expired to sell, etc.
The butcher thought we were just bad at our job, and even threatened to blame it on us to our boss if we kept fucking up. This set off my friend, and they got in a fist fight. My friend is pretty built, he has that sort of "no days off" attitude, but the butcher was a big guy. I'm just glad there weren't any of his tools nearby.
The next day, my friend didn't show up. Or the next day. Or the next. And then comes Saturday. On the weekends, we're just supposed to come in for a few hours and make sure everything is in order. He didn't come then, either, but the lights were on, which obviously freaked me out.
Continuing in another post, gotta type it all out though.
>>17826028
Friend starts a fist fight with a coworker and doesn't get fired? That's going to be harder to believe than the spooky Native American ghost stuff coming up in your following post.
>>17826028
Go on I'm with ya
>>17826028
>OP again, let me continue.
So when I unlocked the front door and walked in, I immediately got chills, for several reasons. Of course, the aformentioned lights already being on was one. But every other door was open. Restroom, storage, even the freezer doors. And that made it unbelievably cold. I put my jacket back on and walked through the freezer. Every single piece of meat (Save for one, I'll talk about thag in a sec) was off the hook, laying in heaps on the dirty floor. There were flies everywhere, and it smelled like shit. Ironically, the one piece still on the hook was the most rotted. In what I think was the chest cavity was my friend's mask necklace. I reluctantly yanked the thing from the meat and opened it up. It was a shrunked head. The rubbery skin and stringy hair felt too real for it to be some novelty item. I left immediately, and when my boss called this morning, I told him I was sick and couldn't come in. He told me about all the rotting meat and how my friend hadn't come in either. A couple hours ago, my friend's wife called and asked if I knew where he was, saying how he hadn't been home in days.
I don't know what to do, I'm freaking out right now. I still have the shrunken head necklace. I don't plan on goin to work tomorrow.
Moonbeams..... tried Googling this. But nothing on the net describes what I saw. One night over 15 years ago, me and a friend were walking in a field. Full moon, probably around 1 or 2 in the morning. Tree line of wooded area lit up. Probably 30' circle lit up like a spot light from a helicopter. But the light was coming from the moon. Looked crazy, but I started walking towards it. Friend of mine said he would go nere it. So then I got the fear. Always have regretted no going closer.
Sorry friend said he wouldn't go neer it. On mobile typing to fast.
Fae portal. If you'd gone through it you probably wouldn't have come back.
>>17826014
title of picture? artist?
http://www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/news/chester-cheshire-news/more-sightings-mysterious-hooded-figure-11488717
So there is this guy in the city I live who has been walking the streets dressed as a plague doctor. Nobody knows who he is or why he is doing it. Chester is a pretty old city too, has Roman ruins there as well as a load of medieval era buildings etc. Yes it is just some random dude cosplaying but still pretty spoopy bumping into him late at night!
ok
>Bloodborne costume scares entire city.
>>17825455
why dosent anyone beat the shit out of this guy, fucking brits no wounder you have sand niggers everyware
I can't explain what I have felt recently.
I felt as if I had skipped six years of my life and only just recently waking up in 2016. There are expired food packages that are dated 2010 in my home. Notes and belongings I had placed around the house dating 2010. I have photos and data stored on this computer dating from 2009-2011. I feel as though for six years I had been out of my body; as if I had been in a walking coma for this long.
I had snapped out of it in the middle of my last employment. I suddenly felt awake again and aware of my surroundings and all my memories had rushed back to me like a floodgate had opened. I immediately put my two weeks notice in to my boss to everyone's surprise because I was told that I had been a valuable and hard-working employee and happy.
Something happened in 2010 or 2011 for me that had me lost my sense of time and place. During these years I recall taking hard drugs. Perhaps it has messed with the chemistry in my brain relating to time and long-term memory. For six years I cannot recall a single thing, event or otherwise.
It is scaring me and has given me anxiety. Six years ago I had a neighbor couple that would walk their dog every afternoon and I would strike conversation with them every time. Now I had found out the husband had died of cancer and their dog of old age. I only see the widow smoking her sad cigarette on her porch every once in a while. I have this eerie feeling I can't shake off that time has just lapsed on me. My body has deteriorated also and I have aches and pains and wrinkles I am unfamiliar. Time for me has lapsed and I will not let it slip again this year. I think I'm going insane.
Interested --
Have any pictures or proof? Drugs could plausibly mess your shit up, but it would be unusual that you would have no recollection of it. Usually alcoholics and hardcore junkies, etc., know what has happened to them. Also, usually people who have serious bad trips, like on mushrooms, LSD, etc., wind up getting committed; they're not able to function. Go on more about the drug usage you remember getting into?
Otherwise, it's also possible you were just being a normal American, who goes through life somewhat like an automaton, watches TV 6 hours a day, etc.; and then something happened that made you basically smarter and realize how ignorantly you'd been behaving. I wouldn't expect this to be your explanation unless you came from a very uneducated/ignorant background -- could that be it?
>>17824967
Yes I felt like my body was on autopilot but my mind is not engaged. Maybe I am just going through life?
I have had a car accident in 2010 and I had saved my emergency room wristband to remind myself. I also bought new books in 2010 and I have them just on the shelf there with the receipt still inside.
I did feel suddenly a burst of high IQ. Seemingly out of nowhere and I have now a heightened sense of sensory perception and brain function. As if a "fog" had been lifted from my mind. Hence my quitting of (mind you a really great job) for I think I am smarter than that.
I can't put into words the feeling that time has lapsed and I cannot recall the six years in between. What astonishes me is there are no traces of the in-between years. No photos, documents, nothing. I would listen to 2010 songs and it would bring back memories from that year but nothing past. Maybe I need help
Welcome back op. It's nice to have you here.
when people talk about the illuminati I think it’s just representative of like this shared desire for control that we all have, I believe the illuminati are less an actual entity and more a psychological archetype, like we subconsciously all want to believe that some shadow government rules the world and has all of the cards laid out in front of them, and that somewhere SOMEONE is in control when in reality the opposite is true, we're just a bunch of insects running here to there, of course there are kabals of government with shared ideologies and motives but there is no one master of everything, we're all just trying to survive and project the feeling of security and serenity when in reality we're all oblivious and afraid
>>17824729
same
>>17824729
flood prevention, please try again later
Tfw you realize that the world is nothing but smoke and mirrors
Tonight, at about 2:50 am, I'm planning on going alone to a locally famous haunted staircase (in a graveyard), and trying to communicate with the ghosts people say are there.
I'm bringing a candle for them to manipulate, a ball to push around, and a flashlight. Any ideas on how to start up a conversation? Should I talk casually, or like they're a spook? Am I bringing the wrong kind of things? Am I a faggot? Advice would be appreciated.
And yes, I am salting my doorstep.
>>17824431
Be accepting and respectful. From my experience ghosts only act out if they feel feared or disrespected. My apartment was haunted but it was a pleasant experience until I upset the ghost. I actually miss the playful haunting and it feels empty now that the ghost is gone
Are angels flesh & blood, /mu/?
>>17824265
no but kurt did a lot of occult stuff
he was a big fan of anton lavey and did voodoo and hexes
>>17824272
Was his suicide such a "hex?"
>>17824286
no i think his suicide was regular and he probably had courtney or a friend help him
but I have heard that he tried putting a hex on a journalist once and that he was into voodoo
Can objects be possessed?
>>17824197
Yes, it is called "ownership"
>>17825662
i liked this post
>>17825088
keep it up buddy, you're rocking those digits, shilling for demons all day long
Itt: Reincarnation
I had a recent event that sort of rattled my belief system of the after life.. Id rather not discuss it, but can x point me twords reputable literature, or articles regarding reincarnation? Maybe also famous, intelligent, or historical people who believed in reincarnation? Only person that I know off the top of my head is General Patton.
Enlighten me plz x
May I introduce you, there was once a man Jesus who died and came back from dead after three days.
>>17824153
Im familiar with the concept.. and that, if true would be a resurrection. I'm more interested in reincarnation after death into a new body.
No one can prove shit. That's what Faith is. Believing in something that can't be proven. The truth is no one really knows. The book Many lives Many masters is supposedly by a pschologist and i thought it was a fun read about reincarnation. Otherwise idk know thyself man.
Does anyone have links to weird or creepy Emergency Alert System broadcasts? Even the weekly tests scared the living shit out of me when I was younger and I'd scramble to shut off the TV whenever I saw one come up.
I've already seen the Local 58 fake ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw_HKzo9Ync
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV0I-iA5lJU
>>17823892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CvjdbQ29qU
>>17823892
https://www.youtube.com/user/shelter345/videos
Watch them in chronological order. There's an ongoing metaplot through all this guy's videos, and it'll make a little more sense if you watch them in order.
i really hope he makes more of the local 58 ones
So I will tell you a true scary story that happened to me, so I studied psychology and when I had to do my social service, I went to a childcare foster care home, ran by the local authorities (the goverment, you know that shit), suffice to say I live in one of the most corrupt countries in the world, I witnessed the most attrocious and vile things done to children, muttilated genitalia, disease/famine due to negligence, all sorts of sexual, psychological and physical abuse, Like a woman, she had a baby, the father abandoned her, she had another boyfriend, this boyfriend didn't like the baby at all, he used her as a human ashtray, literally, he hit her with a copper cable when she cried at night, almost kills her, the mother of the baby just enabled all of this.
So many things I don't want to remember from those times, but I think I have enough alcohol to get through tonight without incident, I think.
Seems like a waste to hit a baby with a copper cable, were there literally no other solid objects around?
Continue, preferably with green text
I remember two of my colleagues had a strange case that I was involved in, and the reason why I quit that job.
So my job there was basically to do psychotherapy with the children and supervise their relatives/tutors visits.
I was just finished with the last appointment that day and I was taking the child back to the dorms with the other children and the caretakers, when one of the caretakers (all of the were female) told me that she needed help fast.
So the caretaker asked me to follow her to the laundry room, there I saw two other caretakers and one female child, she was about 7 years old at that time, she was crying, then one of the caretakers told me that she found her being penetrated by an older boy, 10 years old approx.
I was baffled, I felt my stomach shrink but I kept my cool, I asked for all the details we could get and told the caretakers that the offender must not be near other children at any time.
But then, two of my colleagues (other psychologists working there), stepped in, at that time I was young, 21 years old, I was green, these were old women that had been working for years on this, they started telling me that those children were just playing to the doctor, that this was normal, that I was overreacting, I told her that the caretaker said penetration happened, I told her that probably the offender had been sexually abused before.
I was called a charlatan, a lunatic, they told me that they made a mistake hiring me there, so I spoke with the head psychologist, and the other ones, I was basically intimidated... I turned to alcohol, I had a friend who worked with me there, a lawyer, I told him about this situation, he told me that I should not mingle into these things if I value my life, he said that there is dirty business going on these government foster care homes and a lot of money involved. I signed my resignation two weeks later.
This has been bothering me for 6 years now, my career, ruined...
So do you people actually believe in ghosts? I'm kind of neutral on the subject, I don't like to believe anything without proper evidence. Anyways, I live in Virginia, and I've heard there are rumored to be lots of haunted areas in this state. Anything you want me to check out and report on specifically in the next few days? I literally have nothing better to do.
Yeah, it's unfortunate it's so hard to prove. But let me add to the anecdotal evidence by saying I do believe but only because something that has no logical explanation occurred right in front of my face. I haven't seen an actual apparition but I've seen an object lift up and drop back down. I've also heard (my sister heard it too) a groan from my dad's bedroom 2 days after he passed away in the same room.
>>17823621
Well, you are going to have to give more of an explanation on what the object in question was, if it was something like a glass bottle that would be strange, were you smoking anything?
What the groan could have been:
>An animal/pest/pet
>Machinery (such as vents, pipes, etc.)
>Creaking floorboards
>Another family member assuming they were in said room.
Also, I'm sorry about your loss anon.
>Nana is very, very close to death (again)
>last time this happened, both me and my sister had dreams about my Grandfather being in my house waiting for her to move on
>very odd things would happen (shit falling off shelves, glasses moving)
>my dog REFUSES to be anywhere near my Nana, espesially at night
>will sleep in the basement when she sleeps upstairs, if she is near her room at night she will often stare at nothing and start whining
>getting feelings of something else being in my house, but this time it doesn't feel like my grandfather
I think the reaper is hanging around at night, pretty sure my nana is going to die in her sleep within the next week
ITT: If aliens made direct contact publicly do you think they would be friendly or hostile?
Also aliens thread
>>17823548
they would have to be sufficiently advanced to have the technology to reach us in the first place, that level of tech SHOULD save them from needing to scour earth clean as there are barren planets with better resources and robots make better slaves than humans, so unless they just want to kill us for keks, I bet they'd be friendly
I thought they'd be friendly for a long time. Then I saw what mankind is capable of and thought about what their reasons to come would be, so I thought hostile.
Here's my reasoning. Our civilization is so entangled in recklessly fighting itself for monetary profit and doesn't care much about investing money into something which probably won't return any profit, that it's quite unlikely that mankind would work together as a whole for even saving itself, Yet alone discovering other civilizations. A civilization capable of traveling the universe would have to be extremely aligned and have a strong focus on that job. You don't get that through hippie friendliness (that's coming from a friendly hippie btw), but through strongly enforced dictatorship. If they come, they want our resources and they won't accept us for being different, because them being all the same enabled them to get here in the first place.
>>17823589
OP here
the way i look at it would be hostile given that its obvious that with their technology they would already have a vast understanding of the human race and earth as well so thinking like that my idea is that they would truly only arrive here to capture our planets for its resource other wise to move their population, otherwise they could always arrive in order to establish a connection with another intelligent life, it only seems more plausible that they would take advantage of a lesser species
Don't really know if this belongs on /x/ as it's kind of more psychological than paranormal but what do you guys think of Tulpas? Are they real, can they seem real- or is it a troll to get people to waste their time?
For those who don't know what a Tulpa is, it is basically a 'sentient' individual being that lives in your mind that you can supposedly create through time and willpower.
Any of you guys know anything else/ how to make one? I'd make a Rias tulpa- fuck, can you imagine if that worked? It would be weeb paradise and even better than VR.
I also heard about some guy who got haunted by a fluttershy tulpa because he fucked up visualizing it. So there is the creepy side of it.
So you wanna induce a multiple personality disorder?
Well, I dunno whether this is possible but I know that the disease exists. But I don't know whether the affected person or rather personalities can talk to each other. I think they just "take over" independently and dont really interact with each other, but they know about each other. Might be wrong though. So, that would not be useful to a weeb. But all in all, its quite sad that you say its a dream come true for a weeb.
>>17823489
No it's different than that. The tulpa is not a second personality of the host, but rather a separate sentient entity altogether- I know it's far fetched but I am on /x/, right?
People have claimed to not only speak to their Tulpas, but even be able to feel them. The tulpa can't hijack your mind, but can be loud and talk whenever it wants, and are very hard to get rid of
