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Last thread >>3111373
The same snot nosed 90s kids who almost killed pinball playing Mortal Kombat and consoles, are now helping it make a comeback. So ironic and joyful hah
>>3196478
Snot nosed 90s kid(87) who played MK here. I think you mean 80s kid who killed pinball. I(or people my age) barely had any money to spend on gaming let alone any arcades to spend it at.
>>3196478
where's the hostility coming from?
>>3196478
people that couldn't afford it in their childhood want their childhood back? Stop the fucking presses. Oh, and of course these kids are so much worse than you, you responsible grownup you. Born with a tie and a briefcase, I bet.
what feature on modern machines do you really dislike? What's something machines introduced that, in your opinion, just shouldn't exist?
What do you guys think about software pinball?
>>3196770
Not always.
Digital Pinball Last Gladiators was so realistic that they could build one of the tables as a real machine and the game played identical to it.
>>3196795
Interesting, I'll definitely check it out.
>>3196760
I've been playing the fake pinball version of a machine (Black Rose) I have in my basement but don't know how to repair. It's been sitting down there for years, so it'd probably need a decent bit of work... I've also been trying some of the other fake pinball recreations included in the pirated download, but from either nostalgia or its simplicity I just like Black Rose best. The best way to get points (sinking a ton of ships) is also satisfying as hell, and is only more satisfying on a real machine thanks to the cannon.
Anyone else played it? It's pretty underrated, in my opinion...
>>3196478
MK II gave hints about a certain Midway / Williams pin. Hold the flippers
>>3196747
What game is that on the end with the big ol' topper?
Got 2 billion (on ps4) in Judge Dredd
Slowly getting better. Its so much fun. But there's a lane that you literally can't even see and its hard as FUCK to hit. And you end up needing it to get extra balls so its a bitch. Trying to figure out how to hit it properly.
>>3197060
I believe that's Fish Tales
Why is Dracula so amazing?
>>3196747
>tfw no dedicated arcades, just bars with machines
fug
>>3196818
>Interesting, I'll definitely check it out.
Do note that there are two versions of the game, the initial release, and a 97 revision. The latter has more realistic physics, which also makes the game significantly harder.
There's also its sequel, Digital Pinball Necronomicon, which is easily the best pinball game on any console ever.
>>3197187
I'm really lucky man Colorado has a HUGE pinball scene, there are actually Barcades around like that pic which rock, and then pins scattered across bars all over, some in concentrated pockets where an individual owner renta his machines out and takes super good care of them
>>3197061
Backhand it with the right main or right upper flipper.
>>3197345
Well at least it wasn't some oldschool Williams or Data East
>>3196747
>an arcade with a ghost busters pro 2 1/2 hours from me
>a little less than 3 months till i can go to abarcade2 hours away from me for great pin action
goddamn the wait is killing me but their selection is going worth it if what the pinmap says is true
have any LA bros, been to the EightyTwo barcade recently and can verify if theres been any changes in the line up?
https://pinside.com/pinball/map/where-to-play/eightytwo-los-angeles-ca-united-states
>>3197848
Hell yah man it will be here soon enough, Barcades are alot of fun
>>3197179
that orgasmic noise when you light up all three lanes
>you put pinball circus out of order for the day
ps fuck you pinbo the elephant, your flipper is weak shit
>can count the number of tables in my country on one hand
>one of them is even broken
>>3198417
you're not one of these six-fingered freaks, are you?
>>3196753
cheap plastic toys
>>3198452
toys in general, or would you prefer a different material or quality?
>>3196753
The big lcd screen on wizard of oz weirded me out
DMDs are perfectly fine for pinball, no reason to change it.
>>3198623
I got to agree with you there. Sure, a color LCD can do more, and better, but displaying stuff is not what pinball is about. The display should be just good enough to display information, without distracting. The old DMDs did a good job at that. Also, they're kind of iconic nowadays.
I'd like to go one step further and expand it to all LCDisplays on modern machines. Using physical tricks and gimmicks is so much cooler than playing back a random video
>>3196354
Has there been a pinball machine based on pinball machines?
>>3198680
Does this count?
>>3198680
How about silverball mania?
1/2
>>3198691
2/2
in the last thread I wondered, do modern machines even have pins any longer? Some have center pins between the flippers, but beyond that? Kind of odd for the machines to still be called pinball, when it's one of the features that almost completely disappeared
>>3198701
Mos of them don't the only ones i can think of that still have them are The wizard of Oz, and maybe woah nellie big juicy melons,
although im probably missing some since i don't pay attention to clear attention to every single stern and smaller pinball machine producing company
>>3197189
>There's also its sequel, Digital Pinball Necronomicon, which is easily the best pinball game on any console ever.
Also, it has one of the raddest fucking soundtracks to any pinball ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnqbPjSZEIU&index=14&list=PLjy4IKq36VaFv5eSEtmf2XWDc35YBi9Iu
Personally, I'd still say that Vince Pontarelli's guitars rock harder than this, but this is still excellent.
>>3198680
The Pinbot games I suppose
>>3198212
>not simultaneously achieving all three multiballs for 30,000,000 jackpots
>>3199401
Pinbot is about man achieving singularity with machine and the Voyager space program.
Almost done with the underside work, 1 more pop bumper to rebuild.
>>3200932
>Whirlwind and Twilight Zone
Fucking nice. What else you got?
Where there ever any James Bond pinball tables?
Does there exist a company that suffered as much of a humiliating decline as Gottlieb? They manufactured hundreds of copy-paste EM machines, then got undeniably left in the dust as pinball got more advanced. They continued to churn out forgettable schlock while the likes of Bally/Williams were revolutionizing the industry. I'd say even Data East managed to put out more enjoyable table in their short run than Gottlieb ever could.
>>3201113
Goldeneye is the only one I know of.
Last thread's OP here, here's another location near me. Games are:
>Sopranos
>Metallica
>Surfin' Safari
>Nascar
>Joker Poker (!!!)
>Cue Ball Wizard
>Mousin' Around
>>3201146
Decent selection there. Cue Ball Wizard is pretty terrible though.
>>3201178QUIT TALKIN' AND START CHALKIN'
>>3201252
They fucking stole that from Eight Ball Deluxe.
>>3200957
Doctor Who, Guns N Roses, Whitewater, Earthshaker, Roadshow, Gilligans, Jurassic Park, Funhouse, Midway Deluxe Shooting Gallery, Williams Double Play, and a 56 United Bowling Alley
Just dropped Ghostbusters off today
>>3201680
private or operator?
what's the price for a game on a modern machine?
>>3201728
Still .50 standard all over here, some places that have 1 or two new Stern's try to charge a $1, but the true pinball places still only .50 or even .25 if an EM
>>3201726
Private. Started collecting 13 years ago when games were a lot cheaper, and inherited 2 (shooting gallery and the Double Play).
>>3201929
do you let people play on them? Do you charge, or do you consider it the price of doing this hobby? Also, I envy you
>>3201121
Late Gottlieb/Premier is a thing of fucking beauty - if you love train wrecks, that is. Makes me wonder what would have happened if some of those themes they got went to Bally/Williams/Midway instead. Just imagine if the design that ended up being Addams Family ended up being a Super Mario Bros. pinball instead.
Though I do fucking love me some Big Hurt, so maybe I've just got brain damage. I think liking late Gottliebs is a symptom of that.
>>3201960
I was playing alot of Skydive today. I have a weird love for the old EM pins, but we also have a Street Fghter 2 near me, and you can just tell how far behind Gotlieb was compared to similar pins near that year like T2 and Adams Family
All I want is a judge dredd table of my own.
However I know once I get one I will end up getting more so I avoid it all together.
Thank goodness for pinball arcade, it gets me by.
>>3201441
It says that both when you start a new game and if you don't shoot the ball.
>>3201121
Gottlieb certainly has its place in history for pioneering the electro-mechanical flipper, but it is sad how ignored they became later on because of more quality companies.
Plus some of my favorite pinball tracks come from Gottlieb games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uU8Glyy4eQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBSwzJheylQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcixy7jHjE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqofTKxnu_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUFLBEFaB78
>>3201938
Have people over all the time. My son (who is 15mo old) LOVES to sit on the glass while I play. Doctor Who is his current favorite. Games are always free!
Did anybody figure out the next Pinball Arcade table? My guess isStargate by Gottlieb.
>>3202098
It's TX-Sector, apparently.
>>3202136
Nope this is 3 Kings Tavern, an awesome dive bar/venue in Denver
>>3202136
Isn't Super Arcade still closed?
>>3202328
I have no idea I was just checking the pin map for places to play nearby and i saw that place had a lot of the games that the Super Arcade had lined up next to each other in the pictures,
and i was wondering if that was super arcade because the entry was outdated by two years and i've been wanting to play a twilight zone again for a couple months, and junkyard and iron man are on my pins to play list. and i wanted to check before i wasted 2 hours driving up there.
>>3196760
meh it's ok
>>3196354
So the translite for spooky pinball's Domino pin was revealed a few months and prototype itself is going to be revealed and playable next month in vegas.
What are your guys thought on this
I'm surprised spooky was actually allowed to put the noid on there.
also apparently they are making are more "edgy" translite anybody here have any guesses on what it could be?
anybody play get to play Rob Zombies spookshow yet?
>>3202575
>Domino's Pizza pinball
Pfft. I haven't heard of this one. I hope the Noid's a bash target like in South Park or ToTAN.
>>3202536
Yeah, don't go. Super Arcade closed to move into a new location, but the city council is doing everything they can to keep it from re-opening. I think the owner has been fighting for well over a year now.
>>3202575
I welcome the Dominos pinball haha, it's so odd, yet so right. I'm glad to see them step forward to license to a pinball company in 2016, I just wish you could win free pizzas instead of replays. I plan on playing the Rob Zombie pin next month at the pinball expo
>>3202746
>the city council is doing everything they can to keep it from re-opening
why? I mean, at a first glance, an arcade sounds like a pretty good business to have in town nowadays. Do the old folks at the council think it's gambling or something?
>>3203206
http://superdojo.blogspot.com/
basically they had to jump thru a bunch of hoops and they still want him to jump thru some more
>>3203209
>a permit for "arcades" is no longer being issued
Why is the council that retarded?
>>3203209
that process sounds expensive as fuck. It's saddening. You got a dude there that has what's needed to get started right away, with a business that's very likely to work out really well, so naturally you stall them, eat into their finances while they can not generate any revenue, and I bet in the end, shrug when "for some reason" another small business fails. I don't wish that happening to this guy in particular, but the tendency is hard to miss, and it's maddening
Hey guys, I'm looking to buy a pinball machine. I don't play a whole ton of pinball, but what would you get if you wanted people to think you had good taste in pinball?
>>3203229
centaur
>>3203231
looks pretty cool actually
>>3203229
>what would you get if you wanted people to think you had good taste in pinball?
a brain. Buying something as expensive and high maintenance as a pinball to impress others is stupid as fuck
>>3203229
Addams Family or Twilight Zone
>>3203250
>a brain
>[...] one addition is that the game will randomly go into a "seizure" where everything locks up for around 15 seconds. A display effect was added for that occurrence, and a "special game over ... that tells you to let the next person in line play."
>>3202098
Dr Who
>>3196354
>We actually hit the bump limit Edition
missed opportunity for a "Bumpers held" title
>>3202575
Holy shit the Noid is on there? What if this causes more mass murder sprees?
>>3203229
>buying pinball to impress other people with your taste
that a very poor decision anon, you should be buying a machine you like and not what anyone else wants because you'l be stuck with a machine you don't want
although to actually answer your question
to me showing you have good taste is less so having one Pinball machine it's more having a collection that shows your taste
me personally I would collect machines from different eras by different designers that i enjoy to show off my "taste"
for games that are easy for non pinheads to learn scared stiff, Fishtales, Funhouse, and maybe roadshow also if the themes are more light hearted and humorous it helps them enjoy it
>>3203262
what a rude machine
>>3196354
AC/DC:
>shoot left loop
Ball screams straight down the middle on return
>shoot bell
Ball screams straight down the middle as it plummets back
>ball hits slingshots
Straight into the outlanes
>ball hits anywhere else
Straight into the outlanes
Best machine ever, two ramp shots you can make that don't result in ball loss.
>>3204973GIT GUD
What's /vr's verdict on Banzai Run? It's one I've never seen in the wild but would love to try out.
>>3206201
I played it at a big arcade show in January. It's pretty great, although playing on the vertical field is tough because of how steep it is. Also, the music is GOAT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxSK7Z95ZiY
>>3206207
Good to hear! The table just looks so rad I really want to play it. Found the ball lock music also while listening to the main theme you posted.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hrxa9LaRmng
>>3206207
Different guy here, but I'm going to a pinball expo in June I can't fucking wait to play some machines I haven't seen in the real world yet
A pinball arcade opened up within walking distance a few weeks ago. Made me realize I suck at pinball.
How do I get good?
>>3206620
practice
I want to make a huge pinball table where everything is massive.
>inb4 Hercules
No, bigger, the ball needs to be big like a basketball, you'd need like six service midgets who live in the machine, only by their combined strength can they cock the giant springloaded plunger.
Sure they'll go deaf, but that's the work hazard you sign up for.
>>3206679
Sounds like Pinboing.
Chased down a few Data Easts today on pinball locator. Unfortunately Last Action is down and Batman had quite a few issues, but was really enjoyable regardless.
>>3206907
Fucking 2000AD
>>3196354
Would any of you guys happen to know where i could get wood for making a playfield and an estimate of how much it would cost
for something like a 20.50" x 42.00" and 1/2 an inch thick piece of wood.
And or a webpage of with pre done drawing files or something for designing a machine, and tutorials for more complex shit like desinging dmd animations?
I've had an idea for a pinball machine to make for a while and with summer almost here i feel like designing a pinball machine would be a fun project, i already have the rules, figured out a good deal
but now i have to actually draw the layout, and the only snag im in right now is having to draw bootleg quality drawings of everything from playfields to inserts
Pardon my "quality" drawings
>>3207067
Forgot my picture
>>3197187
Weird how games were in the bars, then went out of the bars, and now they're back in the bars.
>>3207067
I can't really help with much of what your asking but I thought I heard of a program where you can design your table and actually play it. Maybe someone here knows what I'm talking about. Could be a good way to test your design.
>>3207067
Use VPX for design and basic testing. Once that's done and you're happy with the layout and whatnot, build it in meatspace. It would suck to build something halfway and then realise you need to start over to change a certain thing.
>>3207001
>>3207125
hey thanks anon this is fucking great!
I'm going to be able to finish designing this in no time once i get familiar with it.
>>3205926
I can beat your shit score on it or any other table you shitlicking pleb
>>3200932
hell of a job there mate
>>3201146
Nascar has one of the coolest launches I've ever seen on a pinball machine.
>>3208008
why?
>>3201723
reminds me of this place I know of downtown inCanton
Aside from that there's a huge bowling place half an hour away that's got 20-odd machines, I don't approve of their game costs though. Also I really suck at pinball.
>>3208010
When you launch the ball, it goes up the normal path on the right, then goes around the top, along the left side, around another set of turns, and finally up another straight into the playfield, essentially they incorporated a nascar track into the table for the ball to run on, and I think that's cool, even if I'm not a nascar fan. I've never seen another table do something cool and thematic with the ball launch like that, closest I can think of is the one Arabian Nights one where you shoot for the snake.
>>3208008
Harry Williams did the same thing in the '50s. Pat Lawlor = evil man, steals the ideas and credit from others.
>>3208043
you're saying incorporating concepts of the theme into the table is a bad thing, because someone else did it before?
>>3208048
I'm saying Python knows the truth and it must be propagated. Pat Lawlor is not a chemist. Yet he claims credit for Diamond Coat.
>>3208053
what does that have to do with a ball launch?
>>3208082
Every thread there's some butthurt guy with an axe to grind with based Pat
Game of Thrones>Ghostbusters
>>3208447
I dunno about all that now
Safe Cracker is one of the most unique games I've ever played, but holy hell I have no clue what the fuck I'm even doing. Very unlike a professional bank robber to go in with zero plan.
Seems like a fun game to play with friends, though.
To whoever uploaded the new Pinball Arcade version, thanks, I need it for my pinball fix because the one No Good Gofers nearby me doesn't even have working lights so its impossible to play, plus the Seattle Pinball Museum drama.
>Asked Seattle Pinball Museum when they're going to bring back Twilight Zone, told them I'd happily stop by again if they did
>"We'll do it soon"
>Its been over half of a year, no sign of it
>They keep filling their showroom with fucking modern Stern bullshit and other garbage
You can just tell me straight up to fuck off, its not hard. Fuck those people.
>>3196753
This isn't just in modern machines because it was in Addams Family but fucking magnet bullshit that messes with your ball drives me nuts. It feels like at that point, it doesn't matter how good you are but rather if the game decides you should win or go straight down the middle.
>>3208724
>fucking magnet bullshit
And Stern goes overboard with that shit, see X-men and Ironman
>>3208724
>They keep filling their showroom with fucking modern Stern bullshit
Not sure why but I just can't get into newer pins like the ones Stern pumps out. They are just all "meh" tables.
I bet they're a bitch to maintain when something breaks or stops working. You would have to call in a specialist expert to come and fix it.
>>3208921
Or learn that shit before parting with thousands of dollars for a large cumbersome toy with hundreds of moving parts that are bound to break at one point or another
>>3208921
It's just like any other hobby, you learn it and pick it up as you go. Thankful for us we have soooooo many great videos and forums to ask for help. I got into dirtbikes a bit before pins, and when parts break you try to trouble shoot and fix it yourself if applicable. It's part of the joy of laboring over a hobby. I've never owned a pin, but this is how I imagine it, although I'm sure it can be frustrating
>>3208724
>To whoever uploaded the new Pinball Arcade version
wheres the new upload at?
>>3208848
>They are just all "meh" tables.
Agreed I played the newish wwf table recently, boring as fuck.
>>3209640
I really like Sopranos, Transformers, Ironman
>>3209640
The ring feature is pretty fucking cool though
>>3209639
KAT. Viper did it
>>3208817
>X-Men
>has tons of magnets
What were you expecting?
>tfw no no fear machines near me
at least i got attack from mars and medieval madness
>>3208921
They're relatively complex, but you logically would take it on yourself to learn basic maintenance and repair. Older tables are way more difficult than newer ones, arguably.
>>3208464
I love how the TPA version includes tokens rolling down the playfield glass.
>>3212235
If you want difficult maintenance then try those Bally machines with the funky backboxes like pic related. It's a complete clusterfuck of wires inside.
>>3212290
Tpa is better for casual play while vp is better for simulation
Nothin wrong with that, different programs for different means
>>3209708
Tron and Star Trek are pretty sweet as well.
>>3212295
star trek is pretty much the best Stern
>>3212293
The casual thing about Pinball Arcade is its level of fidelity to realism and accuracy.
I'm hearing mixed things on Ghostbusters. What are /vr/'s opinions from people who have had the chance to play it?
>tfw pinball machine gives me an erection
Elvira pls
>>3213303
It's called Scared Stiff, isn't it?
(or, at least one of them are)
I think it's kinda cool that she has her own pinball tables btw.
>>3213603
lots of people have their own tables. Indiana Jones, Judge Dredd, Spider-Man, Batman and many, many others
>>3213603
It's alot of fun too
>>3213875
Yeah but that she actually owns copies of her own tables, and play them, I heard she's a pinball enthusiast.
>>3214269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cY_gCiGIm8
>I heard she's a pinball enthusiast.
i think this promo video speaks for itself
bally or williams?
>>3214828
Williams. After 1988 they're the same company anyway, so just judging by their earlier works I have to give it to them.
>>3201113
Secret Service is in everything but name. It even plays the theme from The Spy Who Loved Me.
>>3214269
>Copies
We're talking about hand-built machines here, not video games.
>>3196354
My father was a pinball wizard and, in the days when you could rack up an infinite number of free games, he'd always leave 99 free games for the next guy to come along.
There was an arcade across from the building where my father worked, and every night after work he'd spend an hour or two there unwinding, playing pinball. He only ever spent a single quarter, and could play as long as he wanted on it. The arcade owner hated him and two went to war. Each day my father would come in to find the pinball game he'd played the day before had been jacked up to a higher angle, had bumper strength reduced, the flippers weakened, and the spinners all tightened. He'd still rack up free games, and the next day the machine would be made even harder. After months of this, every pinball game in the building was practically impossible to play and tilted up so high that the slightest jiggle from pushing the flippers would cause the machine to tilt.
>mfw the arcade owner destroyed his own business to keep my father from winning free games
>>3216415
Why didn't he just change the settings so it didn't give out free games?
>>3216484
because it's a made up story
>>3216484
Who knows? He clearly wasn't rational if he was willing to sabotage his own pinball games just to keep my father from playing on a single quarter. I mean, he could also just have banned my father from his arcade. At some point it became an obsession.
>>3216489
I'm curious, even if it was entirely made up from whole cloth (it isn't), what's the benefit to you in ruining someone else's fun? There was a time when people took pride in crafting stories which were just at the edge of believable. Half the enjoyment from being on 4chan was trying to guess which stories were true and which were bullshit. I'm guessing you're too young to remember those days.
>>3216516
Autism, TX
Which one /pin/?
>>3216854
both at the same time
>>3216856
Those outer lanes in Circus are intense
>>3216854
Neither: Xenon.
>>3217130
>Get it in there
>Good Head
>Bad Head
>Sleeeeeeepy Head
>>3216969
Such a pretty pin. Haven't seen one in the wild yet, maybe at the pinball expo this sunmer
>>3217279
>Such a pretty pin
And a pretty voice.
>>3196354
>We actually hit the bump limit Edition
SoTILTedition, then?
>>3216415
>tfw an EM pinball arcade an hour away
I love it. I can't explain how much having an oldschool pin place has expanded my respect for the game. I even played a few for .10
>>3216854
Scammer con man shit game or game by he who couldn't be great without Python? Ramp ramp screwdriver guy. Such hard choice. Burn Voltaire like the rest of its kind, sell Scared Stiff.
>>3217449
Jesus.Christ. Anon, pinball isn't that serious anymore. These are both enjoyable and beautiful games, get a grip bud
>>3217472
So not serious that scammer Popadiuk uses it to steal millions from buyers of his non-existent pinball machines.
>>3216854
I've never seen a Voltaire in person. Do all of them have that fancy topper?
>>3196354
Just got done with Ann Arbor pinball show. Best show I've ever been too. 300 pins and I got to play Hobbit / Ghostbusters.
>>3217731
"Huh"? Don't be talking shit when you don't know shit then. Real Men burn Popadiuk machines, Voltaire included, because Real Men had real money stolen by that scammer. Over 1 million US dollars. Fuck his scam machines.
>>3217807
granpa its time to stop posting on your chinese canoeing forum and go to bed
>>3217807
Are you the same anon who acts all crazy over the mention of pinball arcade? I'm new to pinball so by all means if you wanna elaborate briefly about this scam from the designer, or if you got ripped off I'd like to hear it since this is a pinball thread, no need to get all crazy
>>3217807
Was burning pins apart of your plan?
>>3217859
Wow, you actually think "apart" and "a part" mean the same thing? Are you in fucking elementary school?
>>3217873
He probably hears that alot.
>>3216516
>what's the benefit to you in ruining someone else's fun?
I didn't craft or post the story, I just commented on it.
>you're too young
You jumped to conclusions and insulted a random passerby with a meme, well done
>>3217918
OH SHIT
A DRIVE BY MEMEING
ON THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY
>>3217873
>>3217830
Read all 18776 posts for the full story
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jpop-update-thread%E2%80%A6%E2%80%A6%E2%80%A6%E2%80%A6%E2%80%A6mg-raza-and-aiw%E2%80%A6
>>3218280
>Read all 18776 posts
>>3218280
>>3218280
>please read 18000+ posts on some forum
Nigger are you for real?
Post a tl;dr of what you're trying to say, nobody here cares about drama on some board somewhere, especially not 18000 posts of it
>>3218734
Ok thanks for the tl;dr.
Anyway if some guy tells me to read 18k fucking posts, I'm not gonna bother reading any of it, seriously.
>>3218734
Then fucking say that you cunt, instead of linking a thread on some forum and telling us to read several thousands of posts, some of us have shit to do.
>>3218734
Check your autismo rage at the OP guy, this is a thread to discuss pinball. Beleuve it or not everyone didn't spend the past 30 years playing pinball, so alot of us are learning. Don't know why you're so goddamn cynical, I'm assuming you're the same guy who was reeeeeeeing earlier
What personal goals is everyone working on?
I'm still trying to get through Battle for the Kingdom. Last time I got to the end and forgot to save some troll bombs.
>>3220874
Valinor which will be my fucking death. Closest i got was 5 elf gifts, destroyed ring, 2 of 3 multiballs done and got to there and back again.
Game has crazy staying power, which is why its a keeper.
>>3220874
The place I go to play pinball has a couple tables, including Mustang, Game of Thrones and KISS, and I've been trying to make the wizard modes in any of them and making questionable progress. I haven't gotten close to Silverball Stampede on Mustang yet, made Hand Of The King and Winter Has Come on Game of Thrones, but not close to Iron Throne, and while I made KISS Army on KISS, it was a massive struggle and I didn't get close to either of the other wizard modes.
There used to be an Addams Family near me where I once managed to Tour The Mansion five times in one game. Kind of wish I could go back to that kind of success.
>>3221113
>Valinor
Fucking hell, I couldn't even remotely imagine trying for that. I guess it would be different if I owned the table (and therefore could practice every day), but even though I play LOTR whenever I get a shot at it, I'm fucking happy just getting to Destroy The Ring.
>>3220874
trying to make the second damn right ramp shot to stir the cup in Diner the shot feels like it's very hard to make the shot with the ball cradled, and I instead need to let the ball have some spin on it before i shoot it to get it up the ramp
>>3221508
What a cool pin, I haven't got to play it yet
Had the pleasure of playing Gorgar earlier, might head back for a few more I love the old school pins
>>3222797
is that a library?
>>3222806
It's a bookstore/coffeeshop and I love it
>>3222797
I'm jealous of that Cactus Canyon. You certainly don't see those every day.
>>3222902
That game is pretty sweet too. Especially the Draw feature.
I've been playing a lot of Last Action Hero recently since it came out on TPA, and I'm slowly trying to work my way up to 1st place.
Data East/Sega machines have really nice bass to their speakers.
>>3223345
I don't understand why this game has a playfield magnet other than Data East's fetish for shoving gimmicks like shaker motors in every machine.
>>3223427
I'd love it if somebody's game titled because of a shaker motor.
Speaking of Data East, has there been any other pinball manufacturer that made custom games for people?
>>3223345
I really like the Data East machines, I wish the Last Action Hero near me worked looks fun
hey lads, back from a 3 day ban, /vr/ sucks balls outside of the pinball thread
Honest question, not trying to shitpost: Would games like Metroid Prime Pinball be allowed here? It's on the DS, but it's a pinball game
>>3212431
Played a few games on it at Pin A Go Go over the weekend and really enjoyed it. That, Americas Most Haunted and Archer were my favorite games of the new ones. P3 and Full Throttle were also cool, as was Hobbit.
>>3225746
Fair question, physical pinball tables have been so far exempt from the 2000 NOT RETRO! cut-off. We discuss modern Sterns and the current tables coming out like Ghostbusters, The Hobbit and Game of Plebs etcetera...
Console pinball gets mentioned but usually not a lot of discussion on it, I see the Saturn pinball games get mentioned regularly. Those games are retro and pinball so that shit is cool. The title that you've brought up is a video game that falls outside of /vr/. But it is pinball and we have a pretty slow thread here, I don't think anyone would jump down your throat over it.
>>3224254
>plunger button
maybe you need another ban
>>3225880
Kek
>>3225885
Earthshaker was the first, but WIlliams never patented it, so DE felt the need to just copy it and put it in everything.
>>3225873
I think it's a really well made set of pinballs. The developer, Fuse Games, is some of the remains of Pro Pinball's Cunning Development. The pinballs in the game are not "realistic", there's lots of moving objects and effects, though mentally I treat them like enhanced video mode. The mechanics are simple, but because of that also quite accessible. As such, I think it's a great example of a portable game. Based on a fairly big console game it sums up the story. Based on actual pinball machines it streamlines the gameplay, without losing entertainment value.
All that said, I really love the whole theme. Metroid, and playing the whole thing as a morph ball was just genius. A beautifuly little detail is that morph ball samus is always aligned with her movement direction. She'll turn, if necessary. Sure, it's just the ball sprite changing, but it fits the theme, and makes reading the low resolution screen easier.
The game's story has 6 tables. Two of them are closest to normal standalone tables, with a theme, and lots of shit to do. The remaining 4 tables are "boss" tables, with at least one central boss, and minimal table design to enable interaction with that boss.
Lots of rambling here, but I think as far as digital/virtual games this is one of my all time favorites, because of that variety, yet focus on a theme, the creativity in interactions, the fairly strong story telling (for a pinball, anyway) and the "friendly" difficulty giving even noobs like me a chance to do something.
Pic is my favorite table. Everything flows so nicely there, including the music (though that's all from the video game, so the pinball can't get much credit there)
>>3225964
>The pinballs in the game are not "realistic", there's lots of moving objects and effects
That's what I like about pinball video games. No point in restricting yourself to real-world limitations when you're working in a virtual space.
>>3226007
it's a mixed bag. A huge part of the appeal of pinball machines is their physicality, and even the video games tend to simulate (more or less successfully) a lot of that physically. The angled playfield, the flipper arms, the bumpers, slingshots, they all behave "physical", and they give the player a sense of that they're playing a digital variant of a real machine.
To me, Metroid Prime Pinball did good again due to the way they added the "unrealistic" bits.
Like the already mentioning alignment of the Morphball. Unrealistic as fuck, but super fitting for the theme, and not distracting from the table at all.
The wall jumps (upper third on both pics) have Samus act in her traditional humanoid manner, but only very briefly.
The color coordinated phazon multiball is unrealistic as well, but it feels like a careful enhancement again, because it's still a fully table dominated game. It's just, the targets are put on the field out of nowhere, randomized, and color coordinated, so you need to hit the right target with the right ball.
I guess what I'm saying is, these additions don't sound like the developers feeling restricted by the physicality of pinball and letting all loose. It's more like the developers envisioning not-yet-possible things for actual tables, and then letting them interact on a virtual table.
What's deviating from this is the combat mode. Both tables have a circle pad bottom center. When combat mode is enable, and Samus rolls over that circle, she becomes humanoid for a short fight section. She stands in place and autofires. Flippers just change the direction she fires at. The whole thing is over aver a couple handful of seconds. That's why I kind of treat it like video mode, and I'd dare say, it could even be done fully in video mode.
There are a few other brief features that stray, and I have to admit, I kind of don't like some of them, because of that.
>>3226007
And after all the MPP rambling in >>3226023 I have to add, I played some Zen Pinball tables, and they didn't appeal to me as much. Mars was a freebie, and that shuttle was just so annoying. It didn't feel like a cool toy or feature, it felt like it's getting in the way of the actual pinball. Some of the other tables were not doing any better. Sure, you can do all these things, sky's the limit and all that, but, to me, pinball is a bit of a finicky kind of game, that does not handle well when it's pushed to the side lines, because a toy wants all the attention.
Are there any good multiplayer pinballs? I don't mean hotseat scoring, unless the actions of one player affect the other player somehow. Someone mentioned a two player cocktail design in a thread a while back, but that's just one ball for two players, which does not sound very pinball to me. Is there anything else? Machines where you can play duels, like a score chase, affect the playfield of the other player somehow? So each player has a ball constantly in play, has their own table, but is still player with/against someone else.
>>3226039
There's been quite a few released over the years, though it may be difficult finding one in good playable condition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVp_4SEfpVQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgoDryiZHY8
>>3226007
I know it's not a popular opinion on /vr but I really lovethe first two levels ofSonic Spinball.
Had some fantastic music also!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UcYTD9Uhato
>inb4 the option screen song
Yes, we know it's bad
>>3226107
that's the two player - one ball cocktail thing though, no? Players don't have their own independent playfield and their own set of balls
>>3226215
>independent playfield and their own set of balls
That's completely retarded. You can just take turns on a single table.
>>3226241
not if they affect each other. Say, there are moveable barriers on the table, that pop up on one table, when targets are hit on another. These can be negative barriers, that keep your opponent from scoring, or positive barriers, that protect your co-player's outlanes or make a ramp shot easier. Or you do a score race, who gets faster to a certain score, with parts on the field changing based on anybody reaching a certain score, so, for example, a certain bonus is only available to everyone playing, as long as the player most ahead has fewer than X points. Or co-op tables, where any one player can trigger objectives, but the objects can only be completed together. A cross table combo, for example, where a player does 3 ramps on their table, which lights up a ramp on the other table, that the other player needs to shoot to continue the combo and so on. Or a multiball where one player can provide additional balls to the other one, by shooting certain sink holes during the mulitball, which "pass" the ball from their table to the other one.
>>3226246
or plain shooter death match between up to 4 players/tables. Targets and ramps on the table select gun, ammo and what player you're aiming at, fire the weapon, etc. Quick targets pop up to dodge. Health is tracked as a stat for all four players, maybe prominently on the playfield. If any player is killed, their table behaves like a tilt, with flippers not reacting and the only ball in play draining. Last man standing wins. Machines may even have different layouts and rules for different fighting styles.
car themed table with an actual race, where players need to shoot ramps and targets to speed up, change gear, bump nearby opponents, shift down and brake to not spin at a turn, and so on. Tables again react to each other. So you got to brake (hit the right target) on a timer when the car in front of you brakes, for example.
the possibilities are pretty unlimited
A friend of friend wants to sell one like pic related, is it worth it /vr/?
>>3226260
If you like that movie, yes.
If you like pinball and/or Star Wars, no.
>>3226214
It's not the best pinball game, it's not the best Sonic game, but it has its charm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkWUJfIotfU
>>3226215
Did you watch the Joust video?
Here's another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob7CM71J2No
>>3226331
just did, and, well, it's a cocktail machine, with a single playfield and players don't have their own set of balls, so ... ok?
>>3226340
How would you incorporate 2 separate play fields for simultaneous play?
>Flippers (4), Kick-out holes (2), 3-bank drop targets (4), 2-in-line drop targets (2), Spinning targets (2). After both players have drained all balls, each has 30 seconds to play an unlimited number of balls.
>This is a head-to-head game where two players at opposite ends of the playfield compete in simultaneous play. Each player has flipper buttons which control only those flippers facing the opponent. Play begins by one player pressing the flipper buttons.
>>3226356
Draw it up for me, I'm a visual person
>>3226363
the red bits are serial/ethernet cables.
There's not much to draw really. Any of the connected machines can change gameplay state and move physical targets based on input from one of the other connected machines. Instead of your own table bringing back a target bank, a signal from the table next to you does it. The rest is just sugarcoating these "distributed" actions in a ruleset.
>>3226374
So this could potentially be a program for existing tables, with some modification, not an entirely new table design or Frankenstein type deal with separate playfields meshed together for one larger multiplayer machine.
>>3226241
I'd like you to meet the unreleased Total Recall table(s?) by Data East.
>>3226396
Ideally the tables are specifically made for that kind of play, so the rules "make sense". I mentioned a few such theme/rule examples in the two posts I quoted.
For existing tables it's kind of hard to convey to the player why the kid next to them started the multiball for them.
However, the table itself would look like a fairly standard common single player table. It's all in the rules and theme, no special playing field.
Yeah, definitely no frankensteined machine. Each player has their own playfield. All multiplayer interaction is through the rules. After all, you still want all the things that come with good pinball tables. Comfortable size, solid layout, ability to nudge and bump, and so on.
Just imagine the frenzy at an arcade when three connected RPG-themed machines are playing together, one player opens the door to the end boss, all machines play the boss theme unison (maybe some light animation across all machines, that relies on the way they are positioned in the arcade), and a 4-ball per machine multiball starts, with all players together draining the health of the big bad boss on a timer. Hell, you'd get shouting matches between players "shit, he paralized my upper left flipper, can any of you two spare a potion? (sink hole, select inventory item with flippers). Followed by a couple more seconds of target rampage to hit that boss and then high fives all around because 3 players together fulfilled one common objective.
>>3226408
that thing looks cruel. Just big enough to still allow nudging. Should fuck up your neighbors play beautifully. Top center seems to be a combined playfield, with either one player controlling both flippers, or both players controlling one flipper each
>>3226260
There is a cool documentary on YouTube about this game and the crash of Williams, I believe it is called Tilt. It is nostalgic yet sad at the same time
>>3226454
>the crash of Williams
>>3226860
The driver had the ballys to walk out of the car and midway on the track, can you believe it? They gave him a stern warning to not do it again, or he'd be racing jack next time
>>3226860
lel
>>3226860
>crashing this company
>with a few survivors
I will never not be curious about the world of Spanish pinball. Sadly a majority of these machines are either unemulated, lost to time, or both.
>>3227834
Then again to us Americans, what they have there seems primitive compared to the machines made over here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY-6T8ODt3E
Got 200 mil on Creature tonight, halfway to Grand Champion. Next time I'm gonna beat the shit out of that scaly green cocksucker and get his super jackpot.
>>3227859
>Next time I'm gonna beat the shit out of that scaly green cocksucker
hey now, be kind to your arcade owner. They're putting a lot of work and time into these machines so you can enjoy them
>>3227862
Heh, but seriously the owner is an incredibly nice guy. He says Ghostbusters will be in soon, but it's being delayed.
>>3206298
On January 30, 1989, Kenneth Lamar Noid, a mentally ill man who thought the ads were a personal attack on him, held two employees of an Atlanta Domino's restaurant hostage for over five hours. After forcing them to make him a pizza and making demands for $100,000, getaway transportation, and a copy of The Widow's Son, Noid surrendered to the police.[4] After the incident ended, Police Chief Reed Miller offered a memorable assessment to reporters: "He's paranoid."[5] Noid was charged with kidnapping, aggravated assault, extortion, and possession of a firearm during a crime. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity. Noid spent three months in a mental institution, and eventually committed suicide in 1995. This incident caused Domino's Pizza to discontinue advertising using the Noid as their mascot.[6]
holy shit
