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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>NEW Trailer for upcoming events:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfM1qP1cbj4

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
NEW Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0

Next episode:
>XY&Z026: Rival Showdown! Ash VS Shota!! [May 12th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z027: Snowbelle Gym Match! A Battlefield of Ice!! [May 19th]
>XY&Z028: The Winding Woods... The Dawn of Evolution! [May 26th]
>XY&Z029: Ash Greninja VS Mega Abomasnow! The Giant Water Shuriken Triggers!! [Jun 2nd]
>XY&Z030: Find Carbink! Goodra and Dedenne!! [Jun 9th}

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
It sure looks that way.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>26276456
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PM43 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_043_-_March_of_the_Nassy_Squad![H264_SUB][508C19A9].mkv.torrent

DP67 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_Diamond&Pearl_-_536_DP067_Hikari's_First_Gym_Battle!![H264_AC3_DVDSUB][A0B6C5D2].mkv.torrent

XY&Z21 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_021_A_Bride_for_Citron!_Eureka's_Sil-vous-plait_Panic!![H264_720P][16E8E590].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 18 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_-_The_Archdjinni_of_Rings_-_Hoopa[H264_1080P][0E97AEA2].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 18 SHORT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_Short_-_Pikachu_and_the_Pokemon_Musicians[H264_1080P][8CE702AE].mkv.torrent

XY&Z22 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=802866

XY&Z23 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=804860

XY&Z24 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=806938

XY&Z25 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=808965

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z26: RIVAL SHOWDOWN! SATOSHI VS SHOTA!! (MAY 12TH)
>Having reunited with Shota for the first time in a while, Satoshi decides to have a 3-on-3 battle with him. Shota has already gathered 8 badges, but just how strong is he now!?

>Summary:
>As Satoshi and his friends head towards Eisetsu City to get the final gym badge, they once again meet Shota at a Pokémon Center along the way. Shota, who greatly admires Satoshi, tells them that he has already collected 8 badges. Satoshi decides to have a 3-on-3 battle with Shota to test how strong he has become, but...?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Yuji Ueda: Gekkouga
>Shinichiro Miki: Luchabull
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kensuke Sato: Livolt
>Chiemi Ishimatsu: Junsa
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Trainer
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Female Admin
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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PM43 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_043_-_March_of_the_Nassy_Squad![H264_SUB][508C19A9].mkv.torrent

DP67 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_-_Diamond&Pearl_-_536_DP067_Hikari's_First_Gym_Battle!![H264_AC3_DVDSUB][A0B6C5D2].mkv.torrent

XY&Z21 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_021_A_Bride_for_Citron!_Eureka's_Sil-vous-plait_Panic!![H264_720P][16E8E590].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 18 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_-_The_Archdjinni_of_Rings_-_Hoopa[H264_1080P][0E97AEA2].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 18 SHORT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY_Movie_2_Short_-_Pikachu_and_the_Pokemon_Musicians[H264_1080P][8CE702AE].mkv.torrent

XY&Z22 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=802866

XY&Z23 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=804860

XY&Z24 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=806938

XY&Z25 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=808965

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z26: RIVAL SHOWDOWN! SATOSHI VS SHOTA!! (MAY 12TH)
>Having reunited with Shota for the first time in a while, Satoshi decides to have a 3-on-3 battle with him. Shota has already gathered 8 badges, but just how strong is he now!?

>Summary:
>As Satoshi and his friends head towards Eisetsu City to get the final gym badge, they once again meet Shota at a Pokémon Center along the way. Shota, who greatly admires Satoshi, tells them that he has already collected 8 badges. Satoshi decides to have a 3-on-3 battle with Shota to test how strong he has become, but...?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi dumps Serena
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Hideaki Tezuka: Fleur-de-lis
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Yuji Ueda: Gekkouga
>Shinichiro Miki: Luchabull
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Kensuke Sato: Livolt
>Chiemi Ishimatsu: Junsa
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Trainer
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Female Admin
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 32 (May 15th)

XY&Z027: Snowbelle Gym Match! A Battlefield of Ice!! (May 19th)
>Having arrived in Snowbelle City, Ash attempts the final Gym match needed to enter the Kalos League. His opponent is the Ice Type Gym Leader Wulfric. Ash struggles with the match, but the key to victory lies with a certain Pokémon.

XY&Z028: The Winding Woods... The Dawn of Evolution! (May 26th)
>Serena and the others are worried about Ash after he disappeared into the forest at night and still didn't return by morning, so they all decide to go look for him. But as Ash is lost in the forest, that other Pokémon that disappeared as well appears before him. What is the answer Ash found in the forest?

XY&Z029: Ash Greninja VS Mega Abomasnow! The Giant Water Shuriken Triggers!! (Jun 2nd)
>After interacting with the Pokémon in the forest, Ash has matured a bit further. No longer lost on what to do, Ash once again issues a battle. Ash summons up everything he has gained so far on his journey: The knowledge, the experience and the memories made with the Pokémon. But the ultimate opponent appears before him: Mega Abomasnow.

XY&Z030: Find Carbink! Goodra and Dedenne!! (Jun 9th)
>On their way to Lumiose City, Ash and his friends decide to stop by the wetlands where Goodra lives. Ash and the others are delighted at seeing Goodra again, but then trouble suddenly arrives! Incredibly, a single Carbink appears to be going on a rampage in the wetlands. Ash and his friends attempt to stop the Carbink together with Goodra and the wetland Pokémon, but then Team Rocket show up.

DREADREA (BY SERENA, CV MAYUKI MAKIGUCHI):
http://www.megafileupload.com/aynY/DreaDrea_(Serena,_CV_Mayuki_Makiguchi).aac

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA CHAPTER 1:
http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
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STOP SPAMMING

>>26281528
>>26281528
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>>26281740
>yfw Luna wins da satoshi
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thanks op
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>>26281740
>It sure looks that way.
You can't be serious.
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:^)
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It's a relief to finally have the good thread
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>>26281751
>>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi dumps Serena
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>>26281817
That wasn't OP
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>I-Its fine amourahipper is better than most imaginary ships
>we o-over achieved this season!
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>>26281814
This isn't a good thread, sadly
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I just want to talk starters someone fucking tell me which thread,

>Gen 1 all 3 starters
>Gen 2 all 3 starters
>Gen 3 Grass Line
>Gen 4 Grass and Fire Lines
>Gen 5 all three starters
>Gen 6 Water Line
>Gen 7 ???

So is Ash getting Ashimari? It would be odd to see him just get the water line again after this gen, but I could see them doing that. Will he get two lines and the third goes to a travel companion? Or will Ash get all 3 again? Personally I think the XY anime has been so good because Ash only had to showcase one starter. I can't see them giving him Rowlet because they will want to give him the regional bird, and Litten seems like it would go to companion flavor of the week. Which makes the sea lion the most likely candidate.
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>>26281863
It is, the shitposter part of the OP was made by some random faggot that posted after OP.
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>>26281868
Yeah basically. They have to give Ash the regional bird so no Rowlett, and Litten doesn't look like it's Ash's style at all.
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Why don't we just ignore the troll OPs? Bringing attention to them just makes it worse
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>>26281881
It isn't, and misusing spoiler tags isn't going to change that faggot.
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>>26281804
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>>26281740
Fuck off
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>>26281889
So you're saying we should ignore this thread? Ok
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ib4 clueless janitor deletes this thread
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>Everyone getting butthurt over "Will serena win da Ash?" being changed
why not just completely remove it from the OP? It seems kind of pointless anyway.
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>>26281763
Episode 30
>Ash meets Goodra again
>Wild Carbink goes nuts
>Goodra might come back onto Ash's team

Pls make this so his Goodra is so much like his Bayleef.
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So what do you guys think Serena's role in the Volcanion movie is going to be? From all of the previews we've gotten so far she hasn't had much of a presence.

With the focus on Volcanion and Magarnea's relationship and the plot to rescue her, do you think we'll have something similar with Ash and Serena where Serena gets captured and Ash plays the role of knight coming to the princesses rescue?

Since it's the last movie the possibility of a spaghetti scene wouldn't be to far fetched.

>>26281868
I see him probably getting Litten if they stick to the XY formula of Ash having fast and strong Pokemon. Rowlet probably won't be chosen because of the regional bird thing they do with Ash, and Popplio looks like it could potentially grow into a Walrin-esq sized Pokemon which is slow.

Litten looks like it'll be a quick, agile and strong starter.

Really depends on what the final evolutions are and whether or not the writing goes pants on head retarded like BW.
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>>26281889
We had the same troll edit in the OP for half a week once because nobody noticed and just kept reusing it
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>>26281939
his Goodra is a man
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>>26281941
Carton waifu
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>>26281917
Either that or just using whatever thread without making a fuss about troll edits every time. It's not like we can't silently fix them when the time for a new thread comes
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>>26281941
Hard to say. It seems Citron is going to be the one getting focus as far as the trailers go.
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>>26281973
I meant personality wise.
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>>26281983
That's literally just inviting trolls to make threads early and put whatever they want in the OP.
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>>26282011
>and put whatever they want in the OP.

Nobody fucking reads the OP anyway. Who cares?

Remember when this thread was for discussing anime instead of getting pissy over one line a OP being wrong?
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>>26281988
He's not in the manga, though.
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>>26281946
None of the links are duds. So what if someone changes the pseudo faq you sperg, it's not a big deal.
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>>26282030
>Remember when this thread was for discussing anime instead of getting pissy over one line a OP being wrong?

Actually? Never
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>>26282031
That's because Ash is travelling alone in the manga.
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>>26282036
They've changed the links before. That's the shitposter edit that stayed so long.
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>>26281937
Yeah I was about to say this.
It was okay in the beginning when everything was all fun and games, but now the amourshippers are too zealous for it to be left there without them getting triggered.
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>>26282070
>>26281946
>>26281889
>>26281881
>>26281863
stop misusing spoiler tags
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>>26282030
>Remember when this thread was for discussing anime instead of getting pissy over one line a OP being wrong?
People here like to complain about the shitposters, but those very people are easily just as cancerous and played an equal part in ruining these threads with their stupid, irrelevant e-drama discussion. It's really depressing.
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>>26281937
>>26282081
You do realize this would've happened if they/you had changed something else, too? Your falseflagging isn't helping you any
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>>26281988
Serena is barely in the trailer
Kek

Even Bonnie gets a pretty fucking rad scene
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that should have stayed as to avoid this kind of shit

>ask bonnie about it
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>>26282052
That's such a bizarre change. Why make the manga so different?
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>>26281937
>everyone getting butthurt over "Will serena win da Ash?" being changed
This is exactly why amourshippers killed these threads just as much as the "shitposters". Fuck me what's wrong with you people? Is one fucking line really this important?
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>>26282103
Now I don't even know what you're talking no one is false flagging anything.
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>>26282128
Probably the mangaka's preference.
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>>26282153
talking about*
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>>26282124
Nice try shitposter, you tried this trick in the thread from 5 days ago.
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>>26282153
Shitposters have been making new threads with rewritten OPs for a long time. What specific bit they've changed isn't the point, nor is it consistent.
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>>26282170
>falflagging this hard
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Holy shit just stop. Can we go back to discussing the movie?
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TV Ratings

GEN MIN - MAX
OS 8.3% - 18.6% AVG 14.105%
JT 5.3% - 14.9% AVG 10.689%
AG 4.2% - 11.0% AVG 7.065%
DP 4.1% - 9.3% AVG 6.396%
BW 2.2% - 9.3% AVG 5.292%
XY 3.2% - 6.4% AVG 4.559%
XYZ 2.4% - 4.4% AVG 3.673%

My pronostic:
S&M 1-2% - 4% AVG 2.5%

Should Satoshi stay or go?
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>>26282170
why? that was just there for comic relief, until someone changed it into what we currently have I wasn't me you fucking autist, go to tumblr and die with those faggots that still ship ash with misty
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>>26282193
I'm not, he tried making this argument in one of the threads sometime in the last week. I'd provide the proof if fgts wasn't down.

The current line stays, amour is happening.
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>>26282206
>we
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>>26282256
>amour is happening.

No it's not.
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>>26282239
I don't think you understand how ratings work.
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>>26282256
>The current line stays, amour is happening
Don't you have ship kids to draw tumblr landwhale?
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>>26282267
>>26282243
Go away.
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>>26282243
We did talk about changing it back a couple days ago, though. Right now the thread is just too full of shitposting and falseflagging to do much.
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>>26282239
Ash stay in SM and Serena dies in kalos
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>>26282256
>The current line stays, amour is happening.
If you seriously, actually believe this, then you are just beyond out of touch with reality.
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>this entire thread
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>>26282312
wasn't in that thread sorry, but yeah better wait for a mod to resolve this, both threads still get replies so nothing to do right now
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>>26282365
That's why the replacement thread needs to be made instantly. This turned into too big of a mess.
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So why did Ash not use his old mons in Unova league.
>inb4 cause it's BW
I didn't watch BW so I want real answer. Did he decide it or something like the Hoenn League?
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>>26282350
Ashs adventure ends in alola? Luna confirmed best grill?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10189522
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>>26282407
It never got addressed at all. Just BW being BW
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>>26282409
No, you'd get Ash and Serena traveling in Hawaii, Luna gets dealt the Hilda card so people don't bitch about her and the anime to some degree.
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>>26282407
He had more Pokemon to rotate around.
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>>26282414
I'd vote for changing it back to what it used to be, but I don't think this is the best time to discuss that.
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>>26282256
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Honestly i would prefer that ash won't recall any old mons

His current team is way too perfect
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>>26282437
Default Luna has black hair though

Only the aryan /pol/ trash wants blonde to be mc
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Is this thread the real thread???
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>>26282484
Yeah, but it's a mess.

Seems to have mostly calmed down right now, though
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>>26282484
Nope. Go to the other one. It's actually having decent discussion while this one is just retards getting angsty over a line being changed.
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>>26282461
Me neither, but it's not like shitposters are going to stop anytime soon
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>>26282437
>the Hilda card
So we're getting a Gym Leader then. That'll be nice, Iris fans were a lot calmer than Serena's.
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Have some Dawn for the day
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>>26282479
All SM fem protag have dark hair save one that's the Serena color.

That and the characters are being customized. Also fuck /pol/ and /tumblr/.
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Reminder that amourshippers are easily just as bad as anti-amour shitters. All this debate over the "will serena win da ash" is fucking cancerous and you should all fuck off to Bulbagarden.

There's way more to the anime than shipping but you autists just can't let it go.
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>>26282535
Even with shitposters, the poll was against ditching it, at least.

Would anyone mind if we changed it back to the "Ask Bonnie" version next thread?
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>>26282474
He only has five Pokémon and three of them are Flying types. He needs to bring in the reserves for some variety otherwise we'll have a repeat of BW's league on our hands.

Trust me his current team will get their chance to shine. Ash used his entire DP team against Paul after all.
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>>26282536
>Iris fans were a lot calmer then Serena's
There were no Iris fans to cause a ruckus though.
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>>26282615
You'd think they'd have started marketing his older mons by now if they were returning, though.
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>>26281751
>>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi dumps Serena
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>>26282600
That's because these threads are now dominated by amourshipping retards, the same retards who willfully engage in all these shitposting wars despite preaching against it.

Just get rid of that stupid faq altogether.
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>>26282536
>implying Iris had fans
Male gym leader, Ash, and Serena. Why wouldn't you get a gym leader, although I suppose Tracey exists.
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>>26282643
Some shitter posted inbetween the OP dumps
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>>26282599
post yfw Ash wrecks Shota's shit with his trump card, Goodra. Shota may have analyzed Ash a lot but it's the only pokemon he would have no idea about. He will be in for a surprise.
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>>26282564
But the gameplay footage defaults to the light skin with black hair designs for both characters. That means they're the default.

The blonde version has only been shown on the select screen.
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>>26282600
I wouldn't mind. But I can't help thinking the line per se is just fuel for shipping wars at this point
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>>26282643
He tried shitting it up but didn't work.
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>>26282599
I suppose to them, not acknowledging shipping at all is the same as admitting it's not happening.
Which is why they're so zealous in asserting their belief that amour is true and canon or whatever.

So either way, it's a lose-lose. Amourshippers won't accept anyone saying anything bad about it nor will they accept the option of just not talking about it at all.
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>>26282662
I don't read spoiler tags. I haven't finished watching all the episodes yet so I don't want to be spoiled
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Fucking hell
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>>26282671
>at this point
It's literally been there since day 1. I don't really see what has changed since then.
There's never been any genuine shipping wars here either
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>>26282681
It clearly did.
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Touko has better design than Luna
We already know what happened to her
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>>26282667
>Shota expects Ash to fight him with lightweight hard hitters
>Not bulky tanks with high power
He's fucked.
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>>26282686
Some shitter posted inbetween the OP dumps
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>>26282670
I didn't see the light skin on the girl, just on not!Calem.
Also:
>Ash has light skin
Customization's a thing now.
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>>26282564
>Also fuck /pol/
/pol/ is the neutral position, you can't hate them. It's about finding the truth and gaining knowledge of political stuff.
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>>26282706
I'm still mad. Fuck Worst Director.
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So, crazy theory. Between Pokemon Origins, the mini-short for Black and White 2, and a few other snippets, it is apparent that Pokemon is at least entertaining the idea of dropping Ash.
So they do it. The whole lead up with Diantha inviting Ash to the champion's league, and Ash's ties to the region and all that jazz is how they get Ash to stay in one place. Ash's story, as we follow him, is done. Maybe he gets with Serena, maybe (Insert Pokegirl of choice) comes back, maybe he goes down the path of a true wizard and never gets with anyone, whatever. He's done. Neato burrito.

The Sun/Moon anime primarily stars BOTH male and female protags, who are both newly moved there and bond over a mutual interest in Pokemon. Just like that Sun and Moon trailer. We follow all new characters, and maybe, just maybe, they run into Ash at some tournament somewhere, aged (yes, actually aged) 3-5 years and have an awesome, big-budget, three episode battle where Ash just barely wins and becomes champion on-screen/gets stomped by a newbie and is robbed yet again.
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>>26282706
I still don't get why the hell they chose not to use her. Her design is perfect.
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They wont make that mistake again they will use luna>>26282706
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>>26282699
By shipping wars do you mean May-Ash shippers and Serena-Ash shippers fighting or something? Because then obviously not.

There has more or less been an ongoing war between people who think amourshipping will happen, and people who don't though.
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>>26282706
Iris was a mistake
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>>26282758
I'm going to say because they wanted Ash to have three starters again.
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>>26282756
i was thinking the exact same thing
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>>26282768
To avoid that mistake they'd use Serena.
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>>26282756
>Between Pokemon Origins, the mini-short for Black and White 2, and a few other snippets, it is apparent that Pokemon is at least entertaining the idea of dropping Ash.

Origins was primarily aimed at adults who had played gen 1 as kids in an attempt at making them interested in picking up X/Y. The B2W2 short was literally animate scenes from the game.

You're really comparing apples and oranges here. Neither used Ash because there was no point in them doing so, just like the Mystery Dungeon specials didn't.
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>>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi dumps Serena

Holy shit.
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>>26282781
Advanceshippers would win that war anyway.
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Is it safe to say Amourshipping ruined these threads?

I'll be glad when Serena leaves, and her one-sided crush stays one-sided and unresolved. Maybe these threads will chill the fuck out and focus on other shit besides whether or not Serena will get fucked by Ash.
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>>26282756
>Between Pokemon Origins, the mini-short for Black and White 2, and a few other snippets, it is apparent that Pokemon is at least entertaining the idea of dropping Ash.
No, what the hell are you talking about? Those were all just to help promote the game. Animated shorts for games are created all the time. Star Fox literally just had one made.
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Moonshipping fanart when??
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>>26282867
No, they were ruined by you.
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>>26282781
Not really, unless you count the shitposters and their bait as "people who don't".
Also, it IS a subplot, the issue is how it will develop, not whether it's happening or not
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>>26282756
Your reasoning isn't very sound to me as >>26282817 said, but I like this idea. They're probably gonna drop a Pikachu voiced by Ikue Ohtani to one of the protags though because muh mascot
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>>26282859
Shitposter tried being the second info dump post but the real one made it first.
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>>26282796
Reusing a companion after their generation is a mistake. Misty was boring in Johto and Brock was completely pointless in Sinnoh.
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>>26282921
Misty's problem stemmed ever since Kanto and Brock was the one working in the background in Sinnoh.
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>>26282479
Fuck you degenerate scum, I bet you're a Jew
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>>26282882
What the fuck is moonahipping?
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>>26282921
May was kept for two separate quests and went after two different Grand Festivals without getting stale. Misty and Brock's problems were tied to their charcters.
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>>26282953
Go away Sweden you are drunk
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>>26282891
See this is what gets me, do amour shippers seriously actually truly believe that everyone that doesn't believe that their little fantasy will come true is shitposting or baiting?
Either this is just extreme autism, you're doing this on purpose and saying it's shitposting/bait to try and get people to believe it actually is, or your faith in amourshipping surpasses that of the Pope in God, and as such you can't even fathom that someone would think Serena will not end up with Ash.
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>>26282955
I assume Pomf's name for Ash x new girl?
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>>26282891
>Also, it IS a subplot
Idiot. You don't know what a subplot is.

Spaghetti moments here and there is not a subplot. Stop applying your headcanon logic to everything.
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>>26282968
May was still in her generation. She was dumped ASAP once Dawn was available.
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>>26282952
But had she actually left before Johto that problem wouldn't have gotten as bad as it did.
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>>26282976
What the literal hell are you even talking about?
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yare yare daze
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>>26282867
I don't ship hell I don't follow the anime so closely, but it matters because it gives the anime something to work towards, an extra layer of depth, rather than a shallow kids show
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She's retardedly cute with that retarded hat
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>>26282989
Maybe if you watched the episodes instead of baiting like you are now you'd see that it is a subplot. Stop applying your headcanon logic to everything.
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>>26283012
>rather than a shallow kids show

don't kid yourself, it isn't any less shallow just because they make one of the characters blush every few episodes.
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>>26282996
She went on two separate quests without growing stale. "But it was the same gen" doesn't change that.
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>>26282968
But in was still Gen 3. It also despite being set in Kanto was centered around Emerald's Battle Frontier.

Pokémon Sun and Moon is a new generation.
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>>26283028
>Maybe if you watched the episodes

I did. And she doesn't do anything outside of dropping her spaghetti every few episodes. I'm not even the guy you replied to.

>Stop applying your headcanon logic
This is hilarious coming from an amourfag.
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oh for fuck sake this still going? better wait 2 more days
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>>26283042
Yes, but you're still not explaining why that's some kind of dealbreaker. It's still two self-contained quests.
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>>26282756
I feel like they're getting ready to do this.

Not yet, but very soon. Maybe starting to really phase Ash out during SM and then do what you wrote.

I feel like they were testing the waters with various things.
>BW2 promo
>Origins
>ORAS promo
>ME Specials

Seeing how audiences handled and thought of these new protagonists, seeing whether or not it was a plausible idea to replace Ash or restart the series with a more rotation based cast of characters similar to the Pokemon Special manga.

Whatever information they received through all this possible testing, I'd love to see their internal results and findings.
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>>26283006
>someone says amourshipping is dead/stupid/not happening/anything against it
>Nuh-uh! You're just shitposting!
That's what I'm talking about.
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>>26283033
I never said going on a separate quest made characters stale. I said staying after their generation. If I meant that I'd have said Misty got stale in the Orange Islands.
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>>26283030
It's a step in the right direction. Do you know how amazing the potential is for Pokemon to have an anime that explores the hidden implications of the universe
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>>26283097
She did
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>>26283055
>I did. And she doesn't do anything outside of dropping her spaghetti every few episodes.

m8, you're not fooling anyone.
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>>26283078
but they are, amour its happening, why the fuck would they push it so hard in the anime?
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>>26283097
>Misty got stale in the Orange Islands.
Mist got stale BEFORE the Orange islands.
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>>26283097
>If I meant that I'd have said Misty got stale in the Orange Islands
She honestly did.
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>>26282882
It's going to be SunShipping or AlohaShipping.

Preferably SunShipping. If the moon becomes a favorite at least do LunarShipping.
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>>26283097
Misty had her issues in Kanto, she went to islands then another region. They tried giving her something in OI but that wasn't even touched until later Johto, and even then rarely.
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Do you still like XY Ash despite being the same Ash who lost to a Lv. 5 Snivy and created bullshit strategies such as the thunder armor and "aim for the horn"?
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>>26283117
Rack in the viewers. Jesus it's not even hard to understand. Have you seen the previews for episodes with spaghetti? That's what they promote. Bait and switch and your episode was meant to be a sylveon one. But that's Tokyo TVs way of doing things perhaps not what the director wants to get accross same with the promo accross magazines etc.
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>>26283173
OI is where that Water Pokemon Master thing got introduced, right? Then they just pretended she had always claimed she wanted to be one.
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>>26283103
>>26283123
>>26283125
It was a downward spiral. Johto just marked the point where she'd hit the bottom.
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>Serena ends up going with Ash to Alola
>She gets her hopes up and ends up convincing herself it's gonna be some romantic trip
>He's just excited about the new pokemon and the new league
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>>26283117
I have no clue how you can thing it's "being pushed so hard".
It's been nothing more than a one sided crush from Serena with cute moments. That much is obvious and I don't think many people will deny.
It's when people start saying that Serena will stay and end up with Ash, when there's virtually no evidence to support that is what people are talking about when they say it's not happening.
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>>26283055
>I did. And she doesn't do anything outside of dropping her spaghetti every few episodes. I'm not even the guy you replied to.
Yeah, that's bullshit and you know it.
>This is hilarious coming from an amourfag.
All you're doing is saying you haven't actually watched episodes.
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>>26283208
think*
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>>26283190
>Do you still like XY Ash despite being the same Ash who lost to a Lv. 5 Snivy
Not well written, but had an in-show explanation
>and created bullshit strategies such as the thunder armor
Bullshit writing, but the strategy worked
>and "aim for the horn"?
That was Pikachu. And it, too, worked.

Not seeing your point.
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>>26283117
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>>26283028
But I have been watching, and once again, it's only ever been spaghetti. You. Stupid. Idiot.

Go research and understand what a subplot is before exposing your stupidity again, or at the very least, explain HOW it's a subplot, rather than mindlessly claim it is like the moron you are.
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>>26283205
Obviously, but that's the case for Brock in DP too. Doesn't change the fact that he was just as stale as Misty in Johto.
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>>26283200
Yeah, before it was "better trainer". The problem was she didn't even try being better in Kanto either.
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>>26283190
didn't pikachu got his power stolen by zekrom before fighting snivy?
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>>26283285
Yes.
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i hope serena's braixen evolves into best fox before ash moves on to a better female companion
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>>26283207
This is very suspicious.
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>>26283117
Not same anon, but while Serena's crush on Ash is canon any evidence of Ash having feelings for her is up to debate. I personally believe Amour is kinda happening (don't know how far they'll go with it), but I can imagine other people thinking otherwise.

>b-but they're just baiting/shitposting

I know, there's shitposters in here, but too often who doesn't believe in Amour being a two-sided thing gets silenced here even if they just wanna have a normal discussion about it.
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Serena gave me short hair fetish.

Now I can't stop thinking about gen 7 girl
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>>26283285
Yeah. It never plays any purpose beyond making Pikachu lose that one battle, either. BW was such a fucking mess.
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>>26283123
Eh, Misty was still alright in Orange Islands. Maybe its because Tracey was there too, but she still had her funny moments in that season and I loved the Golduck episode.
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>>26283244
So you post your file name to describe yourself?

I don't know where to start, Serena leaving and starting because of Ash, those moments where Serena is what gets Ash to go further in his journey, the moments with Serena during Tripokalons. Please tell me I'm being baited.

What's the image for anyway?
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Anons

Is it ok if we discuss OS?
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>>26281740
Why does he have so many flying types in his party?
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>>26283291
then how its weird that he lost?, if you want to argue with something like levels in the anime then pikachu had like 1hp left, not defending BW in any fucking way, it was shit and I personally hated BOTH cilan and iris, but I never found weird that he lost there
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>>26283304
>I know, there's shitposters in here, but too often who doesn't believe in Amour being a two-sided thing gets silenced here even if they just wanna have a normal discussion about it.
I honestly don't see that happening unless they're being really bad with their wording or pick the middle of a shitposter spree to mention it. There HAS been proper discussions on the subject.
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>>26282867
These threads are slow as fuck when they're not being shitposted, but they have nice discussions like in the four days before the SM video.

Now look at how fast they are, and how shipping discussion overtook the discussion about Greninja's arc or the upcoming battle against Shota.

It's fucking shitposters, and I'd bet I'm replying to one, but I guess you're right on one thing: there won't be any shitposting after Kalos, no matter how it ends, because of how fast these threads will drop to page 10.
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>>26283357
He didn't fly so good.
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>>26283354
Sure? We were already kind of talking about it.
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>>26283369
Yes. filipino here moving to hawaii soon. It's literally philippines 2.0 but you're considered as american.
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>>26283315
maybe because he recovers his electricity at the end of the chapter? people that complain about that actually watched the chapter or are just memeing?
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>>26283366
>because of how fast these threads will drop to page 10.

The threads aren't THAT slow, anon. And the start of the next series WILL bring in new people
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Luna >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Serena >May>All
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>>26283369
I know people like Phoebe, but they rarely post here.
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>>26283294
I feel like this is going to be brought up near the very end, Serena wanted to talk to her mom here for advice it seems but chickened out.

She'll probably contact home before Ash leaves and asks for her moms advice on what to do. Whether to pursue her dream or follow Ash.

Also, after Yashio said "I'll teach you everything there is to know about being a performer" I expected a hard cut to some sort of hentai of an idol sucking off a producer or hiring agent.

4chan has ruined me.
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Amour has not changed since the first relationship chart.

Serena loves Ash, and Ash views her as one of his best buddies.
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>>26283414
She's cute /padt/ I'm losing myself.

I hope Ash's journey ends on a high note and she becomes MC
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>>26283348
>So you post your file name to describe yourself?
No, it's to expose your laughable samefag accusations, idiot.

>those moments where Serena is what gets Ash to go further in his journey, the moments with Serena during Tripokalons
That isn't a SUBPLOT. You're a fucking moron.

>Please tell me I'm being baited.
No, you're just outrageously stupid. Explain what a subplot is, then explain how "moments" like that fulfill the definition of subplot.

>What's the image for anyway?
Ok, so you're even dumber than I thought. Lurk more you idiot.
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>>26283358
>>26283400
I think a lot of it is just the usual "the anime sucks" people finding something specific to jump onto. See also "Ash forgot what a Koffing was".

For some reason they never shitposted much about the Elesa battle even though Ash IS disturbingly out-of-character stupid in it.
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>>26283429
Dawn's the best buddy in case you missed the memo and what happened in recent episodes.
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>>26283369
She's a foreigner.
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>>26283294
This is it for Serena. I still find it hard to believe that Yashio wants her
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>>26283432
She is a qt

Need more fanart

Hopefully over the weekend
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>>26283369
I fapped to futa porn of her. Don't judge
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>>26283294
fuck that old bitch
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>>26283457
She stepped on Hawaii

She is the hawaiin queen
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>>26283469
Cute
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>>26283441
Well, have to say that wasn't me if you were trying to put that second post as me. Although you did confirm that you're the usual shitposter with all your use of "idiot" "moron" and shit.
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>>26283426
>Serena always does the opposite of what her mother says
>mfw Grace tells her to follow Ash and she doesn't
rage.jpg
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>>26283496
There's something about those shorts I really like, though I don't get what
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>>26283452
>Serena is his childhood friend love interest.
>Dawn is his fembro/imouto.
>May is his kouhai
>Misty is his tomboy pal
>Iris is a nigger

The girls each have their role in the hierarchy of relationship to Ash.
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>>26283469
Damn now i want a girlfiend with black hair. Sorry Lorena
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>>26283512
>this is the one time she follows her mothers advice to close off her character development for XY
I'd fucking love this.
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>>26283512
>Grace overheard about the Tripokalon thing
>Grace tells her to do the Tripokalon
>because Serena does the opposite she'l go with Ash
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>>26283478
Because the insert song. Honestly.
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>>26283398
from what I also researched many Ilocanos reside there, or have relatives.
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>>26282758
Too hot for the anime
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>>26283523
So the next girl is going to be the busty and lewd onee-chan?
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>>26283523
so old one that teach him about the pokes of her region and acts like a sensei when? I just want the /ss/ pics
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>>26283553
How? She's no worse than Misty or Shauna.
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>>26283553
They had Elesa and Georgia and they showed Misty in the old OS clothing. That wasn't it.
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>>26283403
They are. The only reason these threads don't fall so quick is because this is a slow board, except during happening times just like this one. If the SM characters hadn't been revealed yet, these threads would be sliding to pg 10 hella fast, as there wouldn't be anything that relevant to the anime to discuss (like new companions or whether Serena stays or not or whatever).

Also
>bring new people
If by that you mean new Japanese children who will replace the ones already too old to keep watching Pokemon, I agree. Other than them, the anime fanbase will drop to BW levels or lower, as most of them will be convinced (if Kalos ends like the rest of the regions ended) that Ash will never win a league, will never get a girl, and will be repeating the same formula ad nauseaum in every single region until Rica dies, Pokemon as a franchise dies, or Tv Tokio dies.
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>>26281788
that picture makes me like her more, props to artist
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>>26283546
One of the few times dub did something better than sub.

The Time Has Come > Oyasumi Boku no Pikachu by far.

Although the former was specifically made for this scene if I remember correctly.
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>>26283573
>If by that you mean new Japanese children who will replace the ones already too old to keep watching Pokemon, I agree.
>Japanese children
Anon...
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>>26283567
>>26283566
her extra short shorts were too lewd
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>>26283580
>Although the former was specifically made for this scene if I remember correctly.
Yeah. Oyasumi Boku no Pikachu was an old image song from the Mezase Pokemon Master CD and the lyrics had nothing to do with the scene.
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>>26283441
Here is Amour. The mater list:

XY005: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY006: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY007: Serena being beta, spaghetti and Ash being clueless.
XY013: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY0021: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY025: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY026: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY031: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY037: Serena being worried about Ash
XY040: Serena being beta and spaghetti
XY059: Serena being beta and spaghetti with Ash being a good friend
XY060: Serena being bashful around Ash and Ash being clueless.
XY080: Serena being beta and spaghetti with Ash being clueless.
XY085: Serena being beta and spaghetti with Ash complimenting Serena AND Bonnie.
XY090: Serena being beta and spaghetti with Ash being clueless.
XYZ12: Serena being beta and spaghetti. Ash encouraging another guy to go with her and being clueless.
XYZ19: Serena spaghetti and Ash clueless
XYZ20: Serena spaghetti and Ash clueless
XYZ22: Serena spaghetti

inb4 muh samefag fallback. Because they don't know how to say anything else.
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>>26283586
Shauna's are shorter than Hilda's. Hell, they're about Misty's length.
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>>26283549
13% of hawaiian state population are filipinos
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>>26283108
Yeah, rewatching the episode, it's really great seeing how confident and enthusiastic Ash was about becoming a Pokemon trainer, despite not being any good at all and everything working against him, with him finally succeeding in winning over Pikachu at the end.
It would have been nice to see things have more meaning like this or something like that I'm not sure how to explain it. But the general tone of season 1 is something I really miss in XY, and pretty much any series after Season 1 too actually. Every epsiode where Ash got a new Pokemon in season one managed to be somewhat emotional in a way, only times they weren't particularly was when he got Caterpie and Pidgey, but in those cases their releases ended up being really good emotional episodes.
And of course Muk and Krabby weren't very emotional either.

>>26283404
Yeah it really got the emotional moments down well.
Posting her because someone said I should.
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>>26283595
That explains why some of the lyrics felt a bit off.
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>>26283441
>>26283598
At least pretend you aren't samefagging.
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>>26283561
Only the bird screencap this
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XY is shit because the whole 8 badges plot is not only retarded, but it's been completely exhausted to the point where it's become meaningless. Who the fuck cares about the league or winning badges at this point, it's all just a method of starting pokemon battles for the kids watching. At least in the OS, Gym battles provided Ash with character arcs that develop him as both a trainer and a person, but now he doesn't develop at all; there's nothing left to do with him.
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>>26283586
If this was okay, Hilda's are okay.
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>>26283617
Nice shitpost m8, keep proving my point and showing your predictability.
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>>26283496
Black hair is more cute
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>>26283507
>Well, have to say that wasn't me
Nice try idiot.
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>>26283586
It would look good on Serena
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>>26283598

>list doesn't even have all the moments
>disregards actual moments that aren't about spaghetti
>jumps to "m-muh samefag fallback"

Seriously.
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surely there won't be as much shitposting later when the ep airs right
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>>26283640
True desu.
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>>26283611
I think the Hawlucha episode is pretty good for evoking those same feels. It's all about gaining a wild Pokemon's respect and working with it
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>>26283640
A question of taste
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SO
IT
BEGINS
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>>26283640
>>26283691
I can't choose. Fuck.
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>>26283604
yeah but there was a lot of fanart of it the moment it was announced, like really a fucking lot of fanart, people was to aware of her ass/legs to let it pass

seriously now, its probably this >>26282784, and the fact that they wanted to cater to nostalgia a lot with BW
>two gym leaders traveling with him
>fucking charizard
>3 starters
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>>26283640
When the new series starts, it will be called Chickenshipping.
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>>26283642
Good try idiot.
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