Why are people complaining about GO?
Its saving the pokemon franchise.
I don't understand either.
Sun & Moon sales are going to huge because of this.
GO fuck yourself.
>>27117975
The sales will be great, but people wont keep on playing after Sun and Moon.
But that will mean they made alot of money they can use on future games.
Fuck yourself asshole.
Because 14 millon copies sell everytime needs to be save.
>Saving
>One of the most popular IPs in the world
>>27117961
It's surface-level normie trash. By this time next year it won't mean shit, just like every other fleeting normie trend.
>>27117961
>saving a franchise that outsells fallout at its worst
>>27117961
>mobile cancer is saving pokemon
ok
>>27118445
>>27118432
>>27118395
Jesus christ the samefagging is insane here.
>>27118395
>>27118432
>>27118445
You guys do realise that Pokemon has been on a decline for years right?
You should have realised this during the DS era
>>27118805
it was obvious in gen 2 retard.
but XY sold as much if not more than BW, and again, still outsells basically everything else. By no means in need of saving.
>>27117961
Because Gastly can be hurt by Porygon's Quick Attack. Unless you dodge, of course.
That is all that needs to be said.
I think Go is fine, I just don't like the fact that nintendo's biggest selling products are amiibos and a smart phone game.
>>27118816
>but XY sold as much if not more than BW
It has yet to cross black and white anon.
>>27118805
And the games selling less means the franchise is dying? Come the fuck on, GO wouldn't even be successful if the Pokemon IP wasn't as popular as it is.
Fucking Yokai Watch was the closest thing to a Pokemon killer, and it took it half a year to just barely outsell what ORAS did in a month.
>>27118837
What did you expect?
People don't want video games that are actually video games and that's all Nintendo offers on their systems. What they really want are icons and other shit.
>>27118875
>And the games selling less means the franchise is dying?
That is generally what dying means, yes.
Note the "ing" and not "dead".
>>27117961
It's a simple matter of popularity. The abhorrent humans populating this board spent years of their life dedicated to the Pokemon franchise.
Instead of being recognized on some level for their "efforts" and "dedication" they're witnessing a gigantic mass of normalfags outrunning them in 1 week.
They're mad because casuals are more relevant than them, with a casual spinoff game.
Seeing all these mentally ill neckbeards sperg over the board it's fucking hilarious. Their special sekrit fanclub has been hijacked by normalfags. And what's even more funny, casuals bringing in a shitload of money and free publicity with a free app
>>27119112
>The abhorrent humans populating this board spent years of their life dedicated to the Pokemon franchise.
I doubt that, it's most likely the "Sekrit Club" kiddies who don't realise that the people who have been long time fans are also playing this.
In other words it's poseurs vs fans.
>>27118805
>decline
In what universe? gen 6 has sold better than gen 5, and is still pretty much up to par with the rest of the series except gen 1 and 2
>>27119017
Then you're retarded. "selling less" does not mean "selling poorly". The lowest selling Pokemon games sell more than the majority of other games. And those are just the games, not the merchandise.
>B-but genwunners aren't real fans
>W-wah w-why are they having fun?
>B-but muh sekrit club
People who say any of the above are retarded, pokémon has always been normie as fuck and has been gaining popularity with the 20-30 yo crowd, almost everyone in college were playing ORAS last semester. Now with a mobile app it was obvious this was going to happen.
>>27119160
>gen 6 has sold better than gen 5
>15.60 mil is less than 14.70
I let you figure out which is which.
>>27119163
See
>Note the "ing" and not "dead".
>>27118816
?
obvious in gen 2?
>BW sales: 15.60 millions
>XY sales: 14.70 millions
are you retarded or something?
>>27119175
Are you pretending to be retarded? XY is still in production and getting more sales, BW isn't. XY sold faster on average
>>27119183
>genwun
>30 million
>gentoo
>22 million
wow
>>27119183
In respect to DS and 3DS lifetime sales, it did do better than BW.
>>27117961
Yeah cancerous normiebait and even more genwun pandering is exactly what the franchise needs.
>>27119193
Yeah and no one is buying X and Y anymore because of ORAS and X and Y.
Also how does that change the fact that Black and White has sold more than X and Y?
>>27119175
See
>Selling less does not mean selling poorly
Are you that braindead? It would be dying if it was barely scraping a million. Pokemon isn't dying any time soon.
>>27117961
God fucking shit. Why is it so hard to just put "Pokemon go" in the OP, so I can filter it like the other 15 threads?
I don't like mobile games, I don't like Pokémon spin-offs that are simplified and I don't fucking want to see this. Play it, talk about it, but please give me the possibility to hide it. Thank you.
>>27119217
You don't realise what "dying" means do you.
>>27117961
Why does Pokemon need saving, again?
>>27119209
Given the fact that Black and White came out during the last 4 or so years of the DS?
It's doing considerably worse.
>>27119196
so?
got a huge decline in gen 3 and in gen 4 sales got risen again.
your point?
>>27119213
>and X and Y.
Excuse me
Sun and Moon*
There's literally no reason for anyone to pick up X and Y and they aren't given the fact it's nowhere on monthly sales charts.
>>27119221
Yes, certainly not what's happening to the Pokemon IP. Do you seriously think GO would have been nearly as popular if the franchise was "dying"?
I bet you're one of those fags that says "I'm a year closer to dying!" on their birthday.
>>27117961
>Gen VI 14 million sold on exclusive platform
>Needs saving
Kek
>>27119183
I think he meant combined
XY + ORAS > BW + BW2
>>27119247
>Do you seriously think GO would have been nearly as popular if the franchise was "dying"?
It's a free game that's pandering to the people who played it as a kid.
It would do well regardless in the same way people are happy about Crash Bandicoot coming back.
You really have no understanding of the situation here do you.
>>27117961
>Pokemon Go saving Pokemon
>With a terrible battle system and no content
I'd say this is a bad thing more than it is good. Nintendo is going to look at this and think its alright to continue to spam more games that have little to no content and try to appeal to nostalgia 90s kids and literal children instead of the markets they need to be targeting.
>>27119268
It's consistently beem one of the most popular IPs in the entire planet for 2 decades.
You're clearly the one who has no understanding of what "dying" is.
>>27119277
>and no content
More content than X and Y.
>>27119213
The first games of a generation always sell consistently even after newer games release, XY still sold around a million copies in 2015
>Also how does that change the fact that Black and White has sold more than X and Y?
You realize every generation has lower sales than the previous gen at one point, right?
>>27119277
>try to appeal to children
like the casualization of sun and moon?
>>27119284
You do realise that something can be popular and still be dying right?
This isn't just a case of "oh it's popular one day and now it's dead". It's a slow death, people are clearly beginning to tire of the pokemon formula as noted by the decline in sales over the years.
This shit doesn't change in a flash you idiot. It happens over time.
pokemon company will learn the wrong lessons from it and try to adapt the newer games to be more like pokemon go
>>27119288
As much as I was bummed with X and Y, no it fucking doesnt.
And you are proving my point exactly, Nintendo has skimped out on content the past gen, this game is that notion extremefied.
>>27119320
>and try to adapt the newer games to be more like pokemon go
Not as long as the system it's on can't connect to the internet all the time.
Also TPC doesn't handle the games.
>>27119336
>no it fucking doesnt.
Except it does by the fact you have an entire world to explore and more than 8 gyms to deal with.
>>27119183
>BW released in 2010
>XY released in 2013
BW has had 3 more years of exposure, and that's just for the US release.
>>27119306
So basically, it's dying because one day in the far fucking future, it will be irrelevant?
Please, learn what dying means. Regardless of it selling less, it's still selling a disproportionately huge amount. And like the close minded mongoloid you are, you forget that the franchise exists outside of the games.
Pokemon wasn't dying prior to GO, and it certainly won't be dying afterwards. You'll probably be dead before Pokemon.
>>27119306
>barely any disparity between sales over the last 10 years
>XY sold faster than BW
>slowly dying
>>27119354
no.
people mostly don't buy an older generation when a new game is released
this only happens in a few cases
your comment makes no sense
>>27119395
Look at XY's sales over the years yourself, it's still selling decently even after ORAS released
>>27119306
>>27119346
That isn't more content. You can only do 3 things around the "world" compared to all the shit you can do in mainline games. Everything is simplified in Go too.
>>27119418
>"an older generation"
ORAS is still gen 6
we can discuss that a few years after SM got released
>>27119346
>an entire world to explore
Yeah an entire world filled with boring gameplay mechanics and gyms run by autists.
>>27117961
Signing in with the Pokemon Trainers Club always gives me "unable to authenticate errors please try again"
I'm sick of this shit
>>27119359
The go fags think that just because every new game release isnt getting 30+ million sales then its a flop.
Just a reminder to these numbers, mariokart 8 sold 7 million, smash 4 (Wii U) sold less than 5 million and both were huge successes for nintendo.
These sale numbers also do not include the people who buy their games digitally.
Go genwunners are just fucking cancerous fucks that are leeching onto this franchise until temple run 3 is popular next week and they jump on to that.
>By 2015, the Pokemon franchise had earned ¥4.6 trillion in revenue, equivalent to $57.65 billion. From this amount, ¥74.11 billion ($927.43 million) was grossed from the the Pokemon movies, while the rest of the earnings were from the video games, trading card game, licensed products, and animated TV shows.
Yeah, pokemon can't sustain itself =(
>>27117961
It's not available in my country. If it was I'd probably play it.
>>27119523
Lol get madder I'm gonna go play Pokemon.
>>27119523
>Go genwunners are just fucking cancerous fucks
and they are making Nintendo's market value increase a lot.
So, those fucking cancerous fucks has more value to Nintendo/GF than pokemon fans that love all gens.
>>27119578
Making Nintendo's market value increase does not equal "Good for pokemon"
>>27119578
>more value than 57.65 billion
You are highly overestimating how much go is gonna make.
>>27118805
Black and White didn't sell because they were shit quality abortions ejected at the end of the DS' lifespan. Gen 4 was the second best selling.
kek
>>27117961
It's because you people have started a fucking culture war on this board. And now you're coming to us crying crocidile tears bitching about people fighting back.
>>27119599
actually, it does
>>27119613
57.65 bi in how many years, again?
pokemon go got released last week
I'm not saying that will make more than 57.65 bi, but will make Nintendo think about new paths for pokemon
If they are gonna follow or no, I don't know.
But nintendo wants money. The faster the money, the better.
>>27119288
>>27119346
>He seriously thinks GO has more content than a main series game
Pokefags BTFO by normies
>>27119886
this.
Genwunners won.
>people downloading a free game will make them go out and buy a 3DS for sun and moon
its popular because everyone with a phone can get it for free
chad normalton ins't gonna go out and buy a 3DS anytime soon
>people consider themselves "fans" yet hate a new idea branching off the franchise that's basically "Pokémon in the real world"
These people are almost worse than normies.
>>27118395
Internet Protocols?
>>27119635
>15.6 million copies
>didn't sell
>>27120033
Yes, thank you.
Pokemon GO is literally just satisfying the desire everyone who has ever played Pokemon has always had. "I wish Pokemon were real!" This is as close as it gets.
>>27119912
>>27119886
Go is adding next-gen content. Steel and Fairy are confirmed, Pokemon have attacks that didnt exist in gen1, etc. Give it time, and hopefully the fad doesnt burn out in a month's time and retains popularity. Overmeme has hung on this long so far and it costs MONEY to play. once the battery drain is improved along with a few launch bugs, people should stick around. Plus, it hasnt even launched in europe yet so there'll be a whole second wave. Plenty of time for it to keep interest after they add updates and more 'mons.
>>27119940
This.
Charge even as little as $10 and no one would bother with Go!
It's a cheap game with "gameplay" any moron can pick up and play.
Yeah it's "trending" on social media, but that's just because it's an official Pokemon game available on smartphones for free.
Eventually the novelty of it will wear off and all the normies will forget about it by the time Sun and Moon come out.
>>27120033
>>27120204
The problem isn't that it's "pokemon in the real world". That part is fine, in concept. The problem is that it's barely a pokemon game at all. It takes no effort to actually catch pokemon other than "lol exercise, so hard" and the "pokemon battles" are a joke.
I don't have a problem with pokemon spin-offs, as I've enjoyed both Rangers and Mystery Dungeon, but at-least those presented some sort of challenge other than "nerds leaving their cave".
If they want this game to last past the hype, they need to completely overhaul it.
>>27117961
>game just came out
>typical huge rush magnified by pokemon brand
>IT'S SAVING THE FRANCHISE
Stop. Just cause something just released is popular means shit. Especially if people get bored, which is happening fast. Most this did was show Nintendo never to work with Niantic again for their next mobile kick, because they fucking suck.
>>27120275
Have you played it
>>27117981
AHAHAHA
LMAO
ROFL XD
>>27120275
I agree 100%. I don't see this fad lasting for long when normies just want to catch pokemon, and the pokemon fanbase actually want a pokemon game out of it. Normies aren't going to be attached to it for long if all they want is to catch pokemon, and the game just isnt good for anyone looking for an actual pokemon experience.
They have to change the battle system and stats system 100% if this game wants to have a chance.
It's objectively a bad game.
Shut ins and fat fucks are finally making friends though, so they think the game is fun when in reality they're just having fun meeting other people.
If you need a shitty mobile game as a motivation to exercise and be social, your life is irredeemable
>>27120275
Well yeah thats why theyre adding aspects that are core elements of the main series, like battling and trading. They needed the time and money to develop them though, so the game launched without it.
The reason games lately tend to launch with "half the features missing" is because advanced tech is harder, slower, and more expensive to develop on so companies run out of resources with less completion than they would have fifteen or so years ago. DLC is a workaround for that problem. It also gives them a chance to gauge community input and opinions before setting any gears in motion
>>27120727
>Battling and trading
But what's the point of battling when the battle system sucks complete asshole.
They gotta fix the battle system if they want this game to be anything more than a monthlong fad
>terrible combat system
>gyms are a waste of time, your gyms will be taken over within an hour and the defender bonus is shit compared to just catching pokemon for stardust
>leveling pokemon is a waste of time, you'll catch/hatch high level pokemon later anyways
>no PVP
>no trading
>no breeding
>literally no reason to meet with other people IRL unless you want to talk about the game and fellate each other over whatever team you're on
>don't even bother playing unless you live in an urban area
>buggy as fuck
>gen 1 pandering
>literally the only fun part of the game is catching all the pokemon, which is getting old fast
If this is going to "save" pokemon, then I don't want any part of it
>>27120727
Most games that release with missing content still have 10 times more content than this game has though. This mess of a game barely has any gameplay at all
>>27119724
Go would have to stay on top of the charts for months and nintendo would have to rake in something like 150 million a month for this to make any impact.
if you want to complain about something look at this
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyciJbUUS0fQXQxTTwhfr4A
>>27120204
>adding next-gen content. Steel and Fairy are confirmed, Pokemon have attacks that didnt exist in gen1
genwunners don't care about those things, they just wanted the original 151.
>>27120275
>all the normies will forget about it by the time Sun and Moon come out
do you think that normies care about sun and moon?
>>27120614
>They have to change the battle system
>The game so far is a sucess
it's gonna take a while for they think about change it. So far, the reception is good.
>>27120817
>literally no reason to meet with other people IRL unless you want to talk about the game and fellate each other over whatever team you're on
>>27120817
so go play sun and moon, you /vp/ normie
>>27120075
For the record, he meant 'intellectual property'
>>27120886
that's the goal, champ
>>27117975
no one is gonna drop hundreds of dollars for a 3ds m8
if SM was on the iphone/android, then it would become huge
>>27119523
>Not seeing the consistent decline in sales.
Selling 14.5 million copies compared to 30+ million is the sign of dying. Pokemon GO has revived interest in a stale franchise, get over it.
>>27120912
>if SM was on the iphone/android, then it would become huge
>this is what normies believe
Hold me, /vp/. I'm scared.
>>27120852
>So far the reception is good
>/v/ shitting all over it
>Reviews mediocre
Please, normies will be moving onto a new thing in a month or two, the only people that would care to continue playing it would rather have a nonshit battle system.
>>27120952
now you understand that the only reason it was successful was because it was on a huge platform
>>27120939
You're working under the assumption that nintendo is going to stop producing pokemon games just because they have lower sales.
What you have to look at it as is they will keep on selling pokemon games as long as profits out weigh production costs.
And just to let you know, production for pokemon games is super cheap considering they more or less recycle the same engines and stories gen after gen.
>>27117961
We'll stop when we get proper battle system and PvP
>>27120958
>one or two boards don't like it
>normies all around the world love it
really?
>normies will be moving onto a new thing in a month or two
who knows? try to say that in a month or two
>the only people that would care to continue playing it would rather have a nonshit battle system
and you say that based on an anonymous board opinion?
the world is full of normies. Again, so far the reception of the majority is good
>>27120127
GB2 Reddit
You dummies need to sack up and realize that this is the best thing Nintendo could have done in order to preserve itself.
Of course they have brand recognition, but churning out the same business model year after year, console after console is not the way to drive sales.
Think about this: when NX comes out, people might be more likely to give it a look because they enjoyed the experience they had with Pokemon Go. Also look for Nintendo continue to expand offerings and add-ons to mobile platforms.
Pokemon Go is just the first step.
This is the future. This is how they need to progress if they are going to keep offering you lot Mario Party 1,000 and decent franchise favorites like Zelda, Smash, and Donkey Kong.
They can't rely on 35 year old fanboys to keep the ship afloat forever.
Deal with it, nerds.
>>27117961
It didn't need saving
>>27117975
sun and moon will sell with or without go
GO will be dead once S/M is released, and hopefully these shit threads will die with this lame phone trash
>>27120912
Alpha/Omega already got a boost from GO.
>>27121608
Read the above post as to why "lame phone trash" is here to stay.
You thjnk Nintendo would walk away from those platforms after this? Look at the stock price!
Look at the people that have never played a Pokemon game in their life installing the app!
Seriously, "muh pokemanz ree normies get out" club needs to just suck it up and accept that if you want Nintendo to be a thing 15 years from now, it has to branch out.
>>27121579
You say that as if Pokemon Go is a new IP or something.
Maybe its time you face the reality that GO would not have done so well if they didn't use the pokemon franchise as a skin for the leeches who stick onto fads.
>>27121693
I don't disagree with that. Pokemon is huge. You're missing the point.
Putting stuff out on mobile platforms is here to stay. It's a smart business move. Quit your whining and let people enjoy it, even if it's a husk of the real thing, because in the end it's good for Nintendo's bottom line.
That's my point.
>>27120973
Does that alone warrant it to have THIS degree of success though? Not only is it the highest grossing app on the app store, it achieved that faster than anything else. Like half a day. It's also more downloaded than popular dating sites like Tinder and searched in google more than porn. This isn't normal.
>>27120665
>PEOPLE NEED THINGS LIKE SPORTS AND ALL IN ORDER TO MEET OTHER PEOPLE THEY ARE TRASH I'M SO SUPERIOR
>>27121740
Massive, well-known franchise + massive platform + augmented reality = success
>>27121768
Yeah, pretty much this.
>>27121673
>>27121738
And my point is they would have been fine with or without go for decades.
>Buried in reams of financial data is the revelation that Nintendo have 812.8 billion Yen (£6.7/$10.5 billion) in the bank – enough for it to take a 20 billion Yen loss (£163/$257 million) every year until 2052. Then there’s almost 469 billion Yen (£3.8/$6.0 billion) held in premises, equipment and investments. When that runs out – we’re in the year 2075 by this point – they’ve got some of the most valuable intellectual property in gaming to sell off before the company goes out of business.
Keep on saying that go has saved nintendo from financial ruin.
>>27118823
Aim for the horn, my friend.
>>27121808
Never did I indicate or imply that they were in financial ruin. They aren't. It's more about relevance, and reaching a broader audience.
Since when is having a long-term business plan and growing an already massive empire a bad thing?
>>27120958
You idiot. A more complicated battle system would in fact leave most people out and they WOULDN'T be interested. the average candy crush saga players don't care about stab, memorizing the effect of every single attack of the game and the likes. I'm not saying that it's a good thing gamer-wise, but marketing-wise it is, and even if Go dies in a month like any fad, it'd die even earlier without being simple
>>27120958
>>/v/ shitting all over it
No one cares what /v/ is saying.
>>Reviews mediocre
Absolutely wrong.
>>27120912
On Amazon all game are getting a boost, ESPECIALLY Sun and Moon.
>>27120665
>If you need a shitty mobile game as a motivation to exercise and be social, your life is irredeemable
Dude, i live near central park and went to see what all the go craze was about.
I expected to see normies playing the game but what i saw was monstrosities with unkept beards with crumbs in them, ham beasts that that were using canes because their weight was too much for their bodies, and the worst part was almost everyone was dressed in sweat stained clothing that smelled funny.
These are the type of people that are acting so condescending towards anyone that doesnt like go.
>>27121857
Look, it's just like when the wii got mainstream again and the "gamer club" turned all elitist instead of enjoying its own thing, exactly the same thing, awesome.
>>27118805
>>27119306
>>27120939
>declineposters
You guys realize there's more to success than just raw sales numbers right? If you take into account the install bases of each console, the amount of money put into each game, when each game was released relative to it's respective consoles lifespan, non-vidya franchising and so on, it becomes pretty clear that Pokemon was nowhere close to dying even before Pokemon GO came onto the scene.
The only real 'decline' happened in the first three generations. Pokemon has been pretty damn steady since Generation 3
>>27121945
Yeah, I know. It's just a bit pathetic.
Games are supposed to be fun and have the magical power to bring all kinds of people together.
>>27121659
Source?
Could you guys stop being autistic for a second?
What's bad that Go is casualshit?
S&M is here as well. And the hardcore players can still chain breed their perfect 6 IV hidden ability shiny pokébro.
We can have both and we're better with both. Go made U$11b for Nintendo this week and if even some tiny fraction of that money is invested in the main IP, that's good for us. Go is the best way to leech casualfags( who would never buy a Nintendo platform, again) for our cause.
They can have fun and we can have fun.
Also, only a retard would think that Nintendo will walk away from their main IP. Go, the anime and the spin-offs can only exist because they have a solid game as context.
>>27121992
I could more or less understand if sun & moon were confirmed to become Go 2 (and in a major way, not just like the pokewalker) because of this, but right now they're complaining about something on the only basis that "it's less technical/there are normies in it!!" While true how the fuck does it related to you doing your own stuff. Thee people complain about genwunners but they are exactly the same, genwunners don't shut up instead of just doing RBY again, they just don't shut instead of sticking to the main game because "muh my hipster serie (that never was one to begin with) isn't hipster anymore". Both sides are ridiculous atm.
>>27122248
Amen, dude.
Expect S&M to have cross platform interactions with Go.
Want a shiny ratatta to put in your gym and rekt the other team?
Buy a 3DS with S&M, activate Mistery Gift, transfer it to Poké cloud and get it on your cellphone.
Do you want a shiny Charmander to impress and rape some noobs on wifi battles? Catch this egg on Go, walk some blocks to hatch it and then, transfer it to the Pokébank.Seems fun.
