what was so bad about gen 5
1. The region (bland, linear, boring)
2. The new pokemon designs (no need to add anything, we all know what Im talking about)
3. The graphisms (pixelized sprites, shitty overworld)
>>26630109
Nothing.
Honestly it's my favourite gen.
its my favorite gen too
Its the best gen by a very large amount. Its barely even Pokemon, nothing can compare.
>>26630109
The BW forced you to use only new pokemon.
The pokemon design. A lot were shit and many were only decent. Only a few were good in my opinion.
I used to despise Gen 5 but it's finally growing on me a bit. BW2 is actually pretty cool. Loved that there was a challenge mode and the tower/Forrest were great.
Started the trend of shoving smelly niggers into Pokémon.
>>26630122
/thread
>>26630109
Apart from being forced to use only new mons in BW1, the bland region design (way too linear) and the terrible pixilated graphics, Gen 5 actually ranks high on the list of my favorite Gens. It's plus points are story, music, characters and the PWT.
>>26630188
what do you mean
>>26630122
>1. The region (bland, linear, boring)
Kalos is a lot worse, BW2 Unova is great with lots of nice locations.
>2. The new pokemon designs (no need to add anything, we all know what Im talking about)
At least half of the designs were good/great.
>The graphisms (pixelized sprites, shitty overworld)
Gen 5 sprites are just gen 4 sprites animated, it was still a step up. Gen 6 models have a lot of problems too. Gen 6 also has a worse overworld.
>>26630188
The black basketball players absolutely disgusted me the first time playing through, other than that its ok. I like Lenora.
>>26630122
this is true. i didn't hate the region and i think it is better than hoenn but there is something really boring about unova. the only interesting place in the region was city bridge.
this game did succeed with the plot and characters somewhat. it is the first game to feature relatively complex, dynamic characters, and the plot had an interesting ethical question. too bad they ruined it with the shitty ghetsis character
>>26630217
>Kalos is a lot worse
From from it
Kalos felt refreshing about the crap that was Unova
>At least half of the designs were good/great.
More like 10% were great, 40% were meh and 50% were shit
>Gen 5 sprites are just gen 4 sprites animated, it was still a step up.
Nah, Gen 4 sprites were better
>Gen 6 models have a lot of problems too
Models are a huge improvement over Unova's awful graphisms
I know you Unovabortions love to use Gen 6 as scapegoat, but it just doesnt work there
>Gen 6 also has a worse overworld.
Debatable
While Gen 6 overworld wasnt that good, Gen 5's was truly awful
>>26630227
Because, you know, whites are famous for playing basketball
>>26630188
True. Fucking niggers get out my Pokemon games REEEEEEEE
>>26630136
Mine too, but I wouldn't say it's without issues.
>>26630109
The hate the starters with a fucking passion
>Oshawott
Looks shitty in its first form, looks great as dewott, and goes back to utter shit as samurott
>Tepig
I really wanted to like this starter. A boar with his mane/tusks on fire would be cool af. Sadly we got some WWE belt wearing motherfucker.
>Snivy
Only design line I actually somewhat like. I dig serperior's design and the whole smug ass royalty theme they have going on.
>Other mons
The early route Pokemon are the worst out of any gen. They're all either ugly or useless. The pseudo legendary was the worst too. The Pokemon make the game and gen 5 really sucked in that regard. There are a few good ones, of course, but overall they're all either ugly or useless
>>26630217
>Gen 5 sprites are just gen 4 sprites animated, it was still a step up.
How? It used the same sprites as the gen before it, but extremely zoomed in and pixelated to the point of looking like minecraft. Also, the animations were piss- poor and had terrible frame rates.
>>26630237
>Unovabortions
>>26630237
You have shit taste, I'm sorry.
>>26630237
nobody likes gen 6
>>26630238
Nobody wants to see apehoop players in a Pokemon game in general.
>>26630258
OOGA BOOGA, fuck off whiteboi.
>>26630238
How about just not adding basketball players.
>>26630257
Not him, but I do you faggot.
>>26630257
On this board maybe
Outside, Gen 5 is the least populat gen
>>26630237
>>Kalos felt refreshing about the crap that was Unova
Has is it refreshing/memorable? Most of the characters sucked and the only good location was northern part and maybe the west coastline. Everything else is forgetful.
>>26630238
Cultural appropriation REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DONT STEAL MY CULTURE WHITE BOI ONLY BLACKS CAN PLAY BASKETBALL ONLY BLACKS ONLY BLACKS
>>26630253
>>26630255
>>26630257
Americans everyone
Love a shitty gen for nationalism reasons and wont accept that not everyone does
>>26630273
Its really trendy to disregard Gen 5 as a whole because of all the Vanilluxe/Garbodor/Klink Facebook memes.
>>26630276
>the only good location was northern part and maybe the west coastline.
Well, that's two more good locations than Unova then
Note that this is me only having played Black 1. I've been told a lot of my complaints are solved with Black 2, but I'm also not sure if it's worth spending the money on at this point.
1. The complete lock of new Pokemon only for BW added in some that, honestly, probably didn't need to exist as they were just filling in the gaps of standard Pokemon usually available in games - Palpitoad, Timburr, and Pidove come to mind. I honestly prefer things like Vanillish over these because they're at least the first of their kind.
2. It's hard to pick back up if you put it down for a while because if you forget one plot detail, you're kind of lost as to where to go next. Plus, if you think "well, it's been long enough that I'll just restart", the games don't have the best replay value and often just feel very tedious when you already know what's happened.
3. Started the trend of handholding that unfortunately carried over to XY. You're given a monkey super effective over the gym's monkey you'll be fighting immediately, nurses at every long route for you to go to and heal with, etc etc.
4. On the note of routes, every one felt like a pain to navigate without being all that memorable. Not even difficult, just very, very tedious.
5. Final evos of starters really disappointed me.
6. Very personal problem but I get motion sickness issues from some video games, and for some reason the animated sprites in BW, as well as some of the cities, gave me headaches that made it tough to play.
7. I couldn't really find myself caring about Bianca or Cheren.
I see why a lot of people like them so much, and I do see their merit, but personally it's been my least favorite main series game so far. I know that's just my opinion though.
>>26630244
true.
all games have their issues, mine would be how the Gym Leaders always have no more than 3 Pokemon, an issue I continue to have with this date.
ORAS did at least have two gyms with more than 3 Pokemon granted it's cause they were remakes but hopefully Soon and Moon can fix this.
>>26630289
I'm a Brit. Gen 5 was just really, really good. Nothing will top it.
>>26630293
Klingklang fucking sucks tho and follows the shitty trend that so many ghost and steel types follow of just being an object
>>26630109
>>26630237
I liked the pokemon and Volcarona is my bugbro now.
>An over-dependence on online features that are now deactivated. If you aren't a piratefag who can't edit saves then goodbye Dreamworld exclusives, berries, and C-gear skins
>The region was a linear as fuck circle
>Black City and White Forest are impossible to maintain in BW1 without AR codes. Join Avenue too in BW2 and the difficulty settings are hidden behind this stupid link-up gimmick
>No Frontier after Platinum and HG/SS spoiled us
>>26630314
>I'm a Brit
So basically an American slave
>>26630109
worst starter ever desu
>>26630109
Nothing, it just aged terribly compared to the 6th gen.
Oh and half the dex is ugly as sin but whatever.
>>26630307
>7. I couldn't really find myself caring about Bianca or Cheren.
They're easily the worst, less memorable "rivals" in the entire franchise
I see people praise them all the time here, but I even liked the XY crew more than these two
Hugh was okay though
BW2? Nothing.
BW1? Nearly everything.
Starters
The butt ugly color palette of unova pokenob
>>26630351
I'm so tired of this opinion. BW were fucking fantastic, such a good campaign.
It's my favourite gen to play competitively
BW 1 was pretty linear though and I can see why most people didn't like the new designs
Nothing.
>>26630369
>campaign
Fuck off.
Nothing is wrong with gen 5. It just became popular to hate on it now that their not the latest entries.
>>26630346
>aged terribly
How have they aged?
>>26630122
This
Fuck this board and its blind love for this gen
I guess it has to do with the fact there are a lot of americans here, since I never seen that on japanese sites
>>26630378
I see more hate for Gen 6 than Gen 5 on this board
Xy was so bad they didnt make a third version
>>26630237
>unovabortions
oh good, you're an idiot
>>26630373
>lust these kick
>>26630389
>japanese sites
>thinking gook opinions matter
>>26630109
1. The starters suck ass.
2. Fixed in B2W2, but the whole "You can't catch anything but Gen 5 mons most of the time) was really annoying.
3. Sprite animations could have been done significantly better by nearly any indie dev.
That's about it.
B2W2 are the best Pokemon games in the main series.
Literally the perfect gen
>>26630400
Except no third version was planned
You can see that SM were already planned before XY release through various hints in the game
XY got a better reception than all of Gen 5 btw
>>26630217
It's sad how the only way you can defend your shitty generation is to bash others. What a joke.
>>26630422
>caring what "video game critics" say at all
lol stop
>>26630161
>The BW forced you to use only new pokemon
I suppose you enjoy seeing zubats and geodudes
I liked see new pokemon trough the game and old ones trough postgame
>>26630122
>>26630316
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have
>>26630380
No wifi access.
>>26630422
Something something Famitsu
>>26630443
Should your personal opinion be held on a higher regard
Anyway, if you want to know the players opinion, here it is >>26630273
Try to find a gen 5 starter
>>26630422
game reviews are just opinions
>>26630373
>rage maniac kiss
well yeah but they were all lined up so i don't think it counts
>>26630273
Judging from this image gen 2 is actually the least popular
>>26630237
>Kalos felt refreshing about the crap that was Unova
>I know you Unovabortions love to use Gen 6 as scapegoat, but it just doesnt work there
Hi Kalosperm
>>26630454
I prefer zubat and geodude to uglier versions of the same Pokemon
>>26630273
i thougth it was Gen 3
>>26630456
>get a load of this
>>26630477
At least Kalosperms can go to term, while you Unovabortions never will
>>26630457
Gen 4 doesn't have that too.
And none of the other gens had it, the games are not completely designed around online, the only real thing you miss out on is the dream world.
Sometimes I feel like gen 5's hate is almost exclusively from the people who got butt hurt over ice cream. A few bad designs out of a roster of 156.
>>26630369
Nah man. Terrible Pokemon distribution with all the good Pokemon only starting to show up at the halfway point and only really showing up in the final stretch, preventing those who may not like the new Pokemon from using old ones if they wish without having another game to trade them over, the worst rivals in the series trumping even the four stooges, railroading you throughout the game so they can jerk themselves off over their shitty plot, said shitty plot with mostly unlikable characters and every plot point telegraphed to hell, the region mostly being pretty boring which BW2 thankfully fixed by spicing up a lot of the boring areas and all of its new areas being great, BW1're honestly some of the worst games in the series in my book.
The only really good things about BW1 is it introduced the overall great wave of newcomer Pokemon and the engine and presentation itself was pretty polished, but even BW2 did that even better.
>>26630400
They didn't make a third version because they felt it was already great. Most agreed with that.
>>26630467
Oshawott's actually the fifth highest starter on the list. Sixth if you count Pikachu. Pretty good if you ask me.
Edgelords: The Thread
>>26630467
>once again resorting to ad populum as an argument
Friendly reminder that Bioshock FUCKING Infinite has a 94 on Metacritic.
Friendly reminder that Fire Emblem: Awakening has a 92 on Metacritic.
Friendly reminder that Fallout 4 has an 84 on Metacritic.
Friendly reminder that those are all the worst games of their respective franchises.
>>26630519
Or the fact it wasnt based on Japan
>>26630515
And Gen 4 has aged, too. I don't see your point.
>>26630550
Well, that's the reason why amerifats blindly love it, so it compensates for the hate
>>26630237
Gen 6 designs were straight up shit (barbaracle line, delphox, malamar, aurorus, goodra, diggersby, slurpuff, aromatisse) or uninspired (pyroar, trevenant, talonflame). There are a few exceptions of course, but it's still not great. This is made worse by the fact that they added so few new pokemon. A really high percentage are bad designs.
Models in Kalos were also terrible. We went from having stylized graphics with little details to blander gcube era graphics. Oh boy.
Kalos was also completely bland and forgettable just like unova was. They both have atrocious overworlds. I can't remember 75% of the cities in either game.
I know this is bait but XY sucked
>>26630541
>Fallout 4
That implies it's even the highest rated in the series there, or even of the first-person ones.
>>26630109
In hingsight and considering how x&y went and Aplha/Omega
BW and BW2 where pretty fucking sweet. Challenge mode alone should be a main feature. My only problem with BW2 is that I really dislike Hugh
BW nailed not only the rival situation but the villains as well. We essentially had two champion battles.
>>26630596
>Models in Kalos were also terrible. We went from having stylized graphics with little details to blander gcube era graphics. Oh boy.
That has to be a troll
No one can have such shit taste he would prefer pixilized 2D sprites over 3D models
>>26630558
So all games that don't have online have aged? Playing any of them without wonder trading/online battle diminishes the experience?
You could always play any metagame on showdown anyhow.
>>26630618
What was wrong with ORAS?
>>26630623
A lot of people do
Kalos' graphics won't age well at all. I've seen 3D graphics come and go and look like shit a year+ down the line, but stylized graphics of any kind always have charm to them. Kalos' 3D models and environments were incredibly phoned in
>>26630596
>not liking Slurpuffor Delphox
>>26630623
It's a pretty popular or at least loud opinion here that the models suck and the sprites were better in the past games.
It's wrong, but it is popular/loud.
>>26630623
I agree with you but there are 2 people on this board who are massive losers with no life who hate the 3d models.
>>26630642
>implying the heavy stylization Gen VI's models have aren't consistently the main complaint people have about them
>>26630639
What WASN'T wrong with AS/OR?
>>26630644
It's literally one dude
You can recognize him because he'll call them "washed out" all the time
He's still a very young kid in his head, that's why he loves flashy colors
>>26630623
>3D is better
>it's better because it's new
>not because it's cheaper
You also liked the Star Wars prequels, didn't you?
SM is 3D and already looks amazing, by the way.
>>26630596
>STILL shitting on pokemon designs
Fine, get a bigger load of it
>>26630664
I don't go on the boards often. XY's models just look bad. It's a necessary step towards making 3D environments/models that actually have character, and maybe look good, but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck now. Imo, they just don't look great.
>>26630644
>having this shit taste in pokemon
Sprites overall had a better aesthetic, but in the future models will look better. Currently the 3D looks bad, but it's a transition state
>>26630677
>opinion that I disagree with
>the "it's just one person" meme
It's literally one person baiting unovabortions all the time. You can tell because he'll call them "dead games" all the time.
The models are great. The colors on the models are shitty and you know it. Why make them so high poly if they're just going to be rendered as if they were 2D sprites?
>>26630711
>literally my mom's colored water drop
wow so this is the pokemon killer..........
N for starters.
Pre-bw2 Plasma too.
>>26630317
>2 easy
>>26630389
>blind love
More like blind hate Tbh
Holy shit the butthurt in this thread
There were a few pokemon abilities that were terrible too
-illusion
-defeatist
Defeatist took a cool pokemon design and made it useless. Illusion was created to debut Zoura for the movie promo; but inadvertently made it a detriment in vs. Player battles.
It made the bottom screen useless.
That's my only real complaint for the gen.
Sure, the visuals were a bit choppy, the routes were a tad dull, and some of the pokemon were quite awful, but every single gen has similar problems.
>>26630798
This.
>>26630109
I don't get why those that like gen 5 get automatically called Unovabortions. My first game was Yellow and Gen 5 is one of my favs
>>26630859
lmao I remember when people were saying this about gen 3
how time has flown
>>26630715
Personally, I much prefer Gen VI's models and their direction with the color palettes. Gen VII is a further improvement on that with what we've seen. But the only sprites in the series I really ever felt looked good were Crystal's battle sprites.
But Slurpuff is adorable, I don't know how you can hate it.
the c-gear textboxes every time you start up the game were the absolute cancer.
Surely no one can deny this
>>26631075
Found the soft reset faggot.They were badly implemented.
>>26630826
>It made the bottom screen useless
By giving it a useful function?
I don't get it.
>>26630109
Nothing. BW2 were the perfect Pokemon games. Yes, better than Platinum and HGSS.
>>26630314
Based britbongbro.
>>26630273
This is a poll for Japanese kids to vote for a Pokemon to give away in an upcoming event. You'll notice that all the Unova legends ranked very highly, despite being easily transferred to Bank through Transporter.
>>26631628
Tell me how good is the c-gear you are using right this moment.
Send me a message on my pokenav, ok?
>>26631628
The only use it had was IR trading
>>26630809
>-defeatist
Its just like Slaking's truant.
>>26630109
The fucking terrible graphics
>>26630273
....Umm senpai...That's a lot of gen 5 pokemon near the top.
>>26630373
Bail the see.
What?
>>26632505
>chinks
>entitled for anything
>>26630109
Snivy evolution line
>>26630217
>At least half of the designs were good/great
You get that that's not a particularly positive comment, right?
>>26632674
Is that a joke?
It's the only Gen 5 starter that kept a good design all along
Tepig was ruined by the firefighting bipedal meme and Wotter line had a pukeworthy color scheme until the last evo (which had a weird design instead)
Gen V actually has my favourite music in the games by a fairly significant margin
le dank and edgy gen 5 suks anus maymay
Pokemon that don't really work outside of gen 5.
>>26630245
>looks great as dewott, and goes back to utter shit as samurott
You fucking faggot. Just because Samurott isn't a stretched out Dewott does NOT make it a bad Dewott evolution at the slightest.
>>26630109
It didn't introduce anything that couldn't have been coded in Gen 4.
Gen 7 will suffers from the same problem towards Gen 6.
>>26630217
Unova was so linear, your journey literally went full circle cloockwise
>>26633265
Gen 5 was a refinement gen. It refined gen 4 and made it better and more polished.
Hopefully gen 7 will do the same for gen 6 because gen 6 needs a hell of a lot of refinement
>>26630109
Nothing.
Gen V was fantastic.
>>26633255
The Oshawott line is all about otters that fight with their shells. That trait is very apparent in dewott and Oshawott. Samurott is just an otter with facial hair and shells on it. His weird leg proportions make it hard to imagine him using his arm blades in any way that doesn't result in him falling forwards
>>26630788
;^)
>>26633311
>Samurott is just an otter with facial hair and shells on it.
Shell armor retard. As Oshawott and Dewott also used their shells like shields(anime and their HA as proof). And facial hair like what an experienced SAMURAI WARRIOR possesses? Yes, what an inconsistent design choice.
>His weird leg proportions make it hard to imagine him using his arm blades in any way that doesn't result in him falling forwards
You clearly never saw the design's leg dexterity from it's 3D model then.
>>26633311
I bet you were the kind of fag who refused to use the leg parts from Bionicles for anything but legs
Shit starters.
That's about it.
>>26630109
if you have to ask then you clearly never played it
>>26630490
Should rename pic as Eggman Nigga. Bet he'd be chill to hang out and blaze it.
>>26630347
>Hugh was okay though
Hugh at least treated you like a partner and friend. Cheren treated you as a yardstick to how much he sucked, and I just felt bad for Bianca... I even purposely lost to her once just to give her a win and the game just said "lol u blaked ut, also it didn't count..."
I will say her sprite was cute as hell
>>26630109
too many simple designs.
>>26630109
BW1
>>26630109
Es una buena generación, no puedo quejarme.
>>26630665
Most those things are in Emerald. Yeah ORAS still sucks but it's because RS are shit
>>26631075
This. I want to make a thread with real criticisms of Unova games even though their my favorite games. I'm scared of it turning into a flame war.
>>26630373
past peep i
At first i didnt like gen 5
but then i loved it
Volt switch
>>26630109
Pokémon designs mainly.
I was really bored with black 1 and white 2 to the point where I had to force myself to finish the game.
However, music was spectacular and there were some genuinely sad moments in both games, the saddest came from the dialogue in white 2 about time passing on. ;_;
>>26630109
Rosa isn't real
>>26630373
suicide, nude, eat
>>26637941
And that's the whole reason Game Freak suck.
If HGSS could stay true to the originals, yet implement elements from the Crystal, there is NO excuse for them not doing the same with ORAS. It was pure laziness.
I dropped the games after learning the Battle Frontier had been dropped.I'm STILL salty.
>>26630373
rage
lice
kiss
>>26639673
Im salty too mane. Emerald is still my most played pokemon game and i wish oras could have been as good.
Other than b/w's postgame and shitty starters nothing else rings off the top of my head that was really awful.
>>26630373
>Bail
>Fool
>Leave
Uh...
