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This thread is for the growth of artists and those who draw for fun. If you’re going to give critique, please do it constructively. Rude or blunt critiques won’t help anybody.
Requesters are free to request what they wish, but avoid bumping your request every half hour as it’s only going to put people off; try giving it an hour or more. Also, avoid asking for the same thing every thread. Have some patience and come back to it later. Please provide references in ONE image, especially when requesting something outside of the Pokémon universe. And if you request something from the old Drawthread or a separate thread, COPY & PASTE the actual request instead of posting a link.
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Requesting Marley sitting with a Jolteon. Such an underrated Pokegirl.
Requesting Xerneas cuddling with Arceus like pic related
That Growlithe in the OP is so cute.
Requesting more cutie Growlithes
Moving request about this QT being holded up with both hands grapping her white chest. Scene from liligant holder's eyes, liligant shows cheerfull expression.
Moving request from previous thread so 1 kind artist working on it can link it on this thread to this post,
Pic related with Cilan, Chili, and Cress, in whatever order you think is best.
>>26529560
Requesting entries for a commemorative collab since the /vp/booru's reached 10k posts, reposting this once every thread until June 12th.
Past collab for reference: http://img.booru.org/vp//images/5/0482ec966c1a0f85650bfb29715bf16b01b92bcc.jpg
Imgur album of all current entries: https://imgur.com/a/RWIOY/all
>draw a representative pokemon holding up or making a sign with or just saying "10,000" or "10k" or something similar, as long as 10k is in there
Preferably as a transparent png! I can shop in traditional art as well, I'll do my best to preserve your lines. Has to be full-body so it works with the rest of the collab, unless it's meant to interact with the edge of the image. High res is also preferred so I can resize these together better, maybe something at like 700x700. if you wanna do some fancy shading, light is coming directly from the top
Anyone can join and any pokemon can be used in its shiny or alternate/mega formes, and it's completely okay if more than one anon chooses the same pokemon, so just draw what you like best!
>>26529703
Actually, you know what would be perfect?
Can someone make a tiled background of Growlithes being cute?
This is probably one of those hellish commission-tier requests but fuck it. I need a new wallpaper and I love the work you guys do.
>>26529560
also thanks for letting this be op!
>>26530089
Any time, drawfriend.
Just keep up the good work and maybe you'll end up as the OP again soon!
Requesting Professor Sycamore fangirling/oogling over AshGreninja because its a type of Mega Evolution he's never seen before.
Requesting a spring themed drawing with these two
Requesting Luxray eating popcorn
Guys what programs should I use if I want to draw anime like drawings? I'm not sure where to start
>>26530649
Paint Tool SAI
/r/ a garchomp having its cheeks pulled and looking annoyed
Requesting a very, very long scolipede on their back with their legs up
Re-requesting last thread 's four swords of justice (virizion, cobalion, terrakion and keldeo) as Ghostbusters. Bonus points if the artist can add some ghost types scared of them
>>26531682
>ghosts
>afraid of fighting types
>>26531732
What is skill swap scrappy
>>26531747
Something completely irrelevant to the current discussion.
>>26531754
Wait, so what is your point then? Why else wouldn't ghosts be afraid of fighting types other than their immunity?
Can someone draw a Male Lopunny hanging out with the trainer from Ruby/Sapphire?
Nothing lewd or gay, just chilling.
>>26531777
You said it yourself, their immunity.
>>26531827
>What. Is. Fucking. Scrappy
>>26531840
Something that none of the Pokemon requested have you fucking autist.
>>26531874 Do you realize I had said "skill swap". Call me out on how hard omit would be to pull off, but you can't honestly say it's imposible
To the person who requested me to draw my least favorite Pokégirl in last thread: I'm in the process of completing it.
If anyone wants to make a request, I usually draw human characters and mostly bipedal mons (look at my Fennekin, I suck at drawing animals). I will most likely complete requests, but am slow sometimes due to life on the outside.
Pic related
>>26531901
They don't even learn Skill Swap in any fashion. You'd have to get an entirely different Pokemon from outside the group to Skill Swap onto them. You're at the point where you're forcing something that doesn't work for no good reason.
>>26531945
I know. I never said it was viable , I said it was possible. Take a look at the posts. I know you'd have to be in doubles, with something like a medicham. But the point is, it is relevant to the conversation, so you're wrong.
>>26531965
It's not relevant to the conversation, because a Medicham isn't part of the conversation. Nothing that was part of the request can pull it off.
>>26531902
well, if i can make a request..
how about a zoroark in workout gear?
pic related
>>26531979
What if the Ghostbuster suits work as mega infusers, and all megas have scrappy? What then huh?and as far as the request foes, they'd be fucking Ghostbusters, that's pretty scary for a ghost
>>26531979
Holy fuck who cares dude, if everyone was autistic like this we'd have a quarter of the fanart that actually exists
Just let the fucking picture get drawn and suspend disbelief for two seconds
>>26532049Why not use an actually known ghostbuster in Miltank?
requesting a shuckle admiring the shell of a shiny shuckle
>>26532064
But that quarter of fanart would actually feel like the person who made it played the fucking game and wasn't a poser drawing this shit for popularity sake. What's the point of drawing fanart of something when you gut the source material in the process? If you're creative, you can make small changes to make something work and actually enhance the quality of it like in this case actually using Fighting Types that come with Scrappy.
>>26532124
Because I love virizion and like the musketeers, they represent justice so it makes more sense than a literal fucking cow.
PS:I do like miltank, but not your idea
>>26532142
fuck off
nobody is upset about this but you; it's your problem
>>26532146
If you're hung up on justice, why a Ghostbusters parody? Why not like an Ace Attorney parody or something where justice actually is a theme?
>>26532167
Mostly last thread gave me a funny picture of that, ans I thought I'd like to see it actually represented.
I'm sorry I apparently triggered you, all I wanted was my favourite quartet to play a funny and tangentialy related role
>>26532032
Those are some pretty snazzy and cute outfits. Will get on it after the first request.
>>26532202
thanks man. your artstyle is really lovely.
Requesting Cerebella and Popplio doing something circus-related together.
Re-requesting the arceus+giratina+palkia+dialga mario party session featuring turn 50 chance time space reactions
Requesting Empoleon doing this
Requesting Rukia doing something cute with a Klink
For the anon who asked me to draw my least favorite Pokégirl.
>>26532241
Thank you! Will start on your request soon.
>>26533417
>least favorite
good art, horrible taste
>>26533508
Thanks. Yeah, I know, but every time I see Hilda, I am reminded of Han Solo.
>>26533586
>Han & Leia
>>26533635
Oh shit!
>>26533286
Enjoy.
>>26530069
can i draw a shuckle
>>26533957
CUTE
Requesting any NPC trainer (e.g Hex Manic) being their usual "self" in front of the player character. Just as they about to engage in battle the NPC trainer look at their watch and notices that it's break time. Cue the sudden transformation as that trainer drops whatever facade they had beforehand and walks out to get some lunch. The player character is utterly confused by how different they were.
Basically imagine whatever personality or appearance an NPC trainer has is nothing more than a mere act and that they're paid to be goofy/strange/etc... So for my example the Hex Manic would be all creepy & whatnot upon first encounter, but as soon as break time comes around she's suddenly cheery and a bunch of energy.
>>26533957
You just did.
Requesting a hydreigon version
Rerequesting the Swords of Justice with balloons tied to their horns.
Requesting Keldeo with a balloon tied to its horn, looking like its getting some sort of sexual pleasure from it.
>>26532142
>>26532189
What a fucking faggot.
>>26532189
>>26534188
Sorry, didn't mean to link your post, you didn't do anything wrong. I meant >>26532167 of course.
Requesting Arceus with Link's cap on his head like a sock, and the master sword and hylian shield on his back (however you'd like to manage it, with or without the ring being there) and a shiny mew posing as Navi
Draw them doing something mundane like checking out a dungeon map or the shiny mew annoying the living fuck out of Arceus
>>26530733
Not him but why? I hate how it decides to have an interface different from literally everyone else.
>>26533417
>least fav
Fantastic taste my familia. 30 year old mom looking pokegirl
>>26533586
I'm gonna need to know your top 5. maybe you can redeem yourself
>>26534983
>Kris
>May (ORAS version)
>Rosa
>Lyra
>Shauna
I like too many, difficult to narrow it down.
Rerequesting Outlaw Clefairy vs Sherrif Audino dueling at high noon
>>26535129
shit taste redeemed by Kris
draw me a Kris
>>26535151
Hell yeah! Will get on it after the request before you.
Re-requesting a family portrait sort of thing with Maractus/Cacturn/Cacnea or Slowpoke/Slowbro/SlowkingOr both
>>26535151
So what're your top 5 judgmental worthless anon?
>>26535151
>liking a non-canon character
>>26535206
>opinions
>>26535221
>not liking the original girl
>>26535242
Oh, so you're the type who can talk shit about other people's favorites, but when you're asked for your own you're too chicken to say? Wow, you're even more pathetic than I expected.
>>26535247
Forget about her anon. Game Freak sure did.
>>26530343
I don't know why I tried.
So has that guy who requested Skyla in Phoebe's outfit given up?
>>26535413
Hahaha, that's pretty cool.
Requesting a Misdreavus throwing a childish tantrum, shouting and flipping a table.
I would like to see two artists do HitmonleexPrimeape and HitmonleexMachoke, and then a third artist to combine all three.
Lets see artists working together to make something creative.
>>26535256
It's only okay to talk about opinions when they are the same as yours, huh nigger?
>RSE May
>Kris
>Hilda
>Serena
>Dawn
Now fuck off to the pokegirl threads.
>>26532032
Holy shit, I think I am spent for the day. I will try again tomorrow. I am so sorry for the atrocity.
>>26535151
I will do your request tomorrow as well.
If anyone else has requests, you can go ahead and post 'em. I will work on them some time tomorrow.
>>26535570
>>26535570
I will do the Hitmonlee/Machoke tomorrow, if that's cool with ya?
I'm anon from >>26531902
>>26535605
Works for me anon.
>>26535129
Rosa's alright
>>26535256
woah woah. I was the one who put the favs in question, idk who that other anon is but I aint afraid to put my taste on the table
my top five are
>Sabrina
>Drasna
>Jasmine
>Roxie
>Shauntal
>>26535571
>nitpicking over RSE May versus ORAS May
That's a special kind of autism.
>actually liking Dawn, literally the worst girl ever
It's funny, because you're judging others.
>It's only okay to talk about opinions when they are the same as yours, huh nigger?
>after you said shit taste redeemed by Kris
>and I only asked for your favorites
This is called being a hypocrite, and ironically if anyone here has named one of my top 5 it was you with Hilda.
>>26535628
Now here's some good taste, and big surprise it came from the guy who wasn't talking shit! Go figure.
>>26535628
>Roxie
>>26535571
>RSE May
Not only shit taste, but worst version of her
>Kris
Not canon, ugly design, they replaced her for a reason
>Hilda
She's ok, but inferior to Rosa
>Serena
Literally a bland, clean slate so you can design your own character
>Dawn
She's ok.
4/10
>>26535761
>misty not being best girl
>anyone ever
>>26535733
>saying someone has "shit taste" in passing
>anon autistically picks this random phrase apart over multiple posts
I don't even really like pokegirls, man. and drawanon is drawing my request so it doesn't matter if he likes things I don't like.
>>26535771
>Misty
what?
She isn't best girl at all, but she also wasn't mentioned in that post at all, so...?
>>26535780
Maybe stop acting retarded and people will stop treating you like one.
>>26535787
she is best girl or you will perish....song
>>26535790
>people
>more than one person
stop having shit taste then
>>26535811
I have no clue who you think you're talking to, but your statements haven't been making sense for awhile now.
Would love to see a sableye challenging a mewtwo to a duel.
>bring it on, imp
>staring contest
>i've made a huge mistake.gif
>mewtwo trying really fucking hard not to blink
>sableye chilling with a smile and resting head on hands
>comments that mewtwo has beautiful eyes
[mewtwo sweating intensifies]
>>26535628
Good taste.
>>26533417
As someone that likes Hilda, I can kinda see where that might come from.Of course my least favorite Pokegirl is Jessie, so I'm probably worse than you if I were a drawfag
>>26535920
Jessie I can understand. You have to see lots of obscure episodes of the anime to really appreciate Jessie.
>>26535934
Seen 'em. Still feel the same way.
>>26529703
here you go!
>>26530076
I'll do this too but it'll take some time
>>26533835
I love it
Thank you
>>26535570
>>26536018
Oh god that's cute.
>>26535570
>>26536207
Figured I'd give this a color since the anon wants us all to collab. I'm not very good at coloring but I tried my best to get the shading as close to Machoke's as possible, probably a bad idea really with the fur. Colors are just the two of them mixed together.
>>26536322
ayyye lemme do that last hitmon x choke cross
>>26536018
adorabu
>>26531682
Bumping, because maybe it got lost among the debate that was had
Requestieng spy from team fortress 2 using joltik as sapper
>>26531902
Requesting furisode girl Linnea sitting with an Aromatisse on her lap please.
>>26536811
I probably should bump these other SOJ requests now that you mention it - it looks like they got wedged between the ghostbuster and pokegirl debates - >>26534127 and >>26534154
>>26529707
Floof i believe in you
It's finals season. Hopefully I'll deliver all of the requests I promised after this. I'm sure other drawfags are in the same situation.
>>26537269
Good luck with your finals anon.
>>26537269
A little late for finals isn't it?
>>26537269I had my finals 2 months ago
>>26537332
urop
>>26537269
Struggling in finals is for weak. JUST GO AND REKT FINALS SO HARD THEY WILL KNOW THEY CANT DO ANYTHING TO YOU. Ab\nd when you can't outfight them, you can outsmart them.
Even if i not have finals yet i survived finals year ago and 2 years ago and 3 years ago, so these finals i will rekt hard too.
>>26536018
Adorable! Thank you!
Requesting some THICC Umbreon
>>26537235
Thank you T^T
>>26537995
No problem. I just wanted to cheer you up. Even if something didnt let you make my wish true, remember i believe in you.
Will there be drawfags in the nsfw board after finals are over?
>>26536018
If you want to do a tiled background I highly recommend krita, which has a "wrap around mode" that lets you draw seamlessly
Krita is free and it's basically as good as SAI imo
>>26538127
Don't you worry anon, I haven't stopped doing your request......not even for my birthday on Sunday (until my family made me for a group portrait and some food) I WANT to do this.
>>26538203
ah really? that's like really good to know oh man, I have krita lying around but don't use it
>>26538287
Just tap the w key, it might ask you to enable opengl which is in the program options
Requesting Hex Maniac variant
>>26537269
That was two weeks ago for me, but I know the feeling.
>>26537277Thanks. Although I might... fail the exam I just took. Shit.
>>26538317
Sauce of that pic?
>>26538796
It's from one of the recent eps of "Netoge no Yome wa Onnanoko ja Nai to Omotta?"
Requesting Pikachu's Ultimate form if he were a Digimon.
Pic related being Champion level.
>>26535628
Hey dude where's your tumblr/twitter?
>>26529996
>>26510430
Rerequesting this.
Requesting this with a Pachirisu and a dog Pokémon.
>>26539761
Requesting that but with a Dodrio/Hydreigon and a Rock/Fairy type, respectively.
>>26535414
This would have been finished two days ago if not for the fact I have been too busy.
Just checking if I can draw anything besides Serena.
>>26540001
Wait, are you the Serena guy who does her in all those other outfits?
Thank you for all that stuff.
>>26535414
Actually i just didnt had acces to internet, just came here :P
>>26540001
Thanks mate
Requesting box of floettes.
>>26540032
I hope your desire for girls in Phoebe's outfit has been satisfied.
>>26540142
yes.
>>26540001C-could you do Roxie in that outfit?
Maybe in her own colors.
>>26540207
>>26540001
Seconding the Roxie request
Also your Skyla picture is fantastic!
Requesting Mienshao helping take care of a beat up/hurt Honchkrow.
>>26540001
You made this one, right?
>>26540254
This sounds cute.
Also requesting.
>>26540001
So you're taking requests?
Requesting a shiny weedle chewing on some leaves
>>26472603
Starting now, I still may take a bit.
Requesting a female trainer playing with a happy Meowstic-M while a Meowstic-F watches angrily.
>>26540700
Why does this look like cropped porn?
>>26540731
It's just your imagination.
Don't worry about it.
>>26540748
I found that one, but I can't find the other.
>>26540807
That's unfortunate.
Requesting Calem, or the male protag from Sun/Moon, wearing the same kind of swim trunks Ash is wearing on the right.
>>26540835
>>26540700
Found it. Yep, it's cropped porn alright.
>>26540748
Female Meowstic panel 1:"This pervert over here."
Female Meowstic panel 2: "Making advances toward a male Pokemon? Are you crazy?"
Male Meowstic: "Whoa, this human is turned on by me despite being male!"
>>26540049
bumping.
>>26540404
HaHa nice facebook pic link yuo FAGGGOT
>>26536838
bump
Requesting Lenora, Fantina, Olympia and Shauntal in Ghostbusters uniforms.
Requesting a Beedrill looking overprotective of the gen 3 female trainer.
All this clothes swapping is making me wanna see something like that. Requesting a shiny Serperior wearing the upper clothes that Hilbert wears (as in his hat and shirt, gloves optional). If you want you can have an upset Hilbert in the background wanting his clothes back. (keep his undies on please) Thank you in advance!
>>26532032
I coudln't help it, i had to.. but somehow this is how i imagined it
>>26541444
>I have trascended the internet barriers. I can no longer be seen with the unenlightened.
>>26535570
I can't edit on my phone, but here. Man, I am really sucking at drawing today.
>>26542068
well I strongly doubt this'll happen since its so weirdly detailed, but this is a hybridization I'd love to see since I think it has potential to look awesome
This is dark falz's third form from the PSO game, I'd like to see it mixed with Arceus' design, please. Tried to get the best ref material of it I could've.
>>26542097
Ha! Might as well be.
To the other anons who I need to draw for
>Kris
>Zoroark
As you can see, I am sucking a lot today. Don't worry, I'll draw them but am shit today.
>>26542219
I love PSO, great taste.
>>26540842
sorry anon, i suck at drawing males lmao, and i dont have time to color : ^ (
>>26536322
Looks good man.
>>26542068
Looks good to me man.
Now all we need is for someone to do the finale.
>>26542717
That's alright, you tried at least and it doesn't look bad at all.
Thank you anon!
>>26539492
I'll do this one! if no one else has..
Requesting an airheaded rocket girl hugging a pokedoll of the artists choice.
>>26542932
No one else has.
And thank you.
Requesting Lopunny dressed as Sheik.
Requesting Wulfric and Beartic clicking bottles of cola together.
https://vine.co/v/ibEUdL50vW0
Foxes apparently do the above when they make friends.
/r/ing Braixen attempting to do this with a terrified Greninja.
>>26535150
Bump
>>26539492
the pose is a bit bland,but i hope you like it anyways!
>>26543685
c-cute!!
>>26544519
not OR... but that's fucking amazing
tomorrow's my birthday
requesting an improved (preferably colored) version of this Latias with a birthday cupcake
>>26544911
fug
>>26544519
OR here, thank you a lot.
C-Could you add his MetalGreymon wings too?
Requesting a realistic girafarig
Requesting the ORAS Fisherman being sexy, but still safe for work
>>26540660
Here's the basic layout of the confectionery, this still may take a while, but there will be people, decor, and Pokemon scattered all around, I won't stop until I'm satisfied. I'm going to try and learn techniques and then come back to this project to exercise what I've learned. I MUST GET BETTER!
requesting a dragonair flying with just its ears while the rest of it dangles stiff in the air
How can I improve this meme?
>>26545139
Damn, so much detail.
After this game of lol Ill be on to draw your deepest poke desires.
>>26545661
what are the limitations?I request THICC Umbreon though
>>26545661
How about a Shuckle?
>>26545661
Sample of your artstyle?
>>26535204
Bump
>>26545661
I want a cute pic of Morty and Sabrina at odds but tsundere as fuck.
>>26545417
Please /vp/ I can't make my own judgement
>>26546128
I think it looks great man. Could potentially do a lightnight strike in the background, but that'd mess with the shading you already have.
>>26546128
Looks fantastic
>>26545417
Make it a non-trashmon. Literally anything else would have been better. Vaporeon or some other Hydration abuser.
>>26546148
>lightnight
Maybe I need some sleep, lightning*
>>26546148
>>26546172
Thanks. A lightning bolt would be cool. I think I will leave it at this, thanks again.
>>26546185
But Manaphy does abuse Hydration, it sets up on things like Mega Sableye or Magic Guard Clefable, Vaporeon doesn't abuse Hydration at all in gen VI
>>26546128
The joke only works when it's something the character ISN'T supposed to represent or support.
>>26546224
this
>>26546224
Not really. That's the reference, sure, but I think this Manaphy picture has used the idea perfectly
>>26546217
It looks pretty badass, anon.
>>26546217
I'm sorry to tell you this but it's fuckingepic
Pic related with Ethan and Totodile.
K, fags. First response gets an /r/. No furshit or linking to posts already made ITT.
>>26546340
can you draw a shuckle
>>26546356
Sure :^)
>>26546340
Requesting anything with chimecho
>>26546356
This >>26546362 was a delivery for you awhile ago that I'm not sure if you got, but I'll do another. I'll do you >>26546367 as well because fuck it.
>>26546418
>>26546362
thank you i did get it i did not recognize you sorry you dont have to draw another shuckle if you dont want to you should draw the chimecho first
>>26546428
I'll do both. Stand by for delivery.
>>26545736
sure
>>26545746
aw i love shuckle
>>26545749
here ya go
>>26546115
um maybe?
>>26546468
quit delivering to furries, faggot
>>26546550
Your """""""""""art"""""""""""""" is shit anyway.
>>26546468
would you draw me a slurpuff being lewd?
>>26546674
site-wide furshit ban when?
there should just be a /fur/ board like /mlp/ really
>>26546706
>site-wide furshit ban when?
How new are you?
>there should just be a /fur/ board like /mlp/ really
There already is. It's called /trash/.
>>26546706
Looking lewd is not depicting the act of lewd you Silly goat. the fuck is wrong with that request?
>>26546718
How new are you? furshit is still allowed basically anywhere, including /vp/
>site
>wide
>ban
>when
ban mobileposters too while you're at it (assuming you're mobileposting because you're a fag)
>>26546706
>there should just be a /fur/ board
There was.
>>26546756
That was a fucking joke.
I mean there actually should be a fur board to contain anthrofaggots.
>>26546706
Furfags are more liked on draw threads than people wanting just cute stuff almost all furfag fuel requests are delivered almost instantly and for cute requests like >>26540049 you maybe will be lucky if you get after posting on 3th draw thread
Motherfucking shitkissing christ, this is the FOURTH spillout argument this thread's had. If you want to bitch out furries just go over to /trash/ where the catalog's filled with unambiguous ones.
>>26546749
It's not allowed. It's tolerated. There's a difference.
>>26546614
>>26546888
>>26547086
>doesn't like Regular Show
What are you, underage?
>>26547086
Not him but I unironically think Regular Show is pretty good. Definitely don't like using tumblr memes though.Except ayy lmao.
>>26547042mods pruning off topic fighting shitlords when?
This is something I want to see. Does a Shuckle become buff when using Power Trick despite the fact that a sneeze will mortally wound it?
>>26547136Not in this delivery, but I think I thought of something better than the in-game text for this regardless.
>>26547105Sorry for using a gif from Tumblr. It's a very old one though. I didn't have anything similar at hand. And I used that gif because that guy's art really is shit.
>>26547178
Can't argue with that.
>>26546356
>>26546367
And there you have it. Enjoy lads.Deleted to fix one minor error.
>>26530069
i make poost
>>26547442
Holy fucking christ that's awesome and hilarious. Nice work anon.
>>26547442
thank you very much i love it
>>26547470
>>26547504
You're welcome lads I'm here all week.Literally. Starting tonight, I'm working til next Tuesday. Pls kill me.
First response gets a free /r/.
>>26547516
Cute dustox
>>26547533
sure
>>26547533
H-here ya go.
what's with the increase of birthday requests lately
>>26547516
>>26546674
or cute if lewd's the wrong word? that would be cool... i mean... if you want..
