so we have our official tier list but where the new games will fit there?
>will be another Masuda Trash
>>26318995
I'm actually having hopes in it being god tier, they are the last pokemon games for the 3ds they had to be good
>>26319131
it will be above average at best, they areng going to pull a BW anymore
>TFW we are never gonna get another 10/10 story
>>26319187
I hated BW my first couple playthroughs, but after leaving it for a couple years and playing it againI had a new appreciation for it.
>>26319259
It's the whole region full on new pokes sempai, that was some alien shit for us
>>26318995
>HG/SS/Crystal in above-average tier
Shit list; they belong in Below Average, Yellow needs to be with R/B and Emerald needs to be bumped up one.
>>26318995
Just here to say that chart is bullshit. GenV is average at best.
>>26319290
>he didn't like HG/SS
Look at the this absolute dogshit taste. To date my favorite entry in the series.
>>26319308
>Gen V
>Good
Oh I am laffin'
>>26319290
>CURRENT YEAR
>Hating on HGSS
What is wrong with you?
>>26319324
Woops, did not mean to quote anybody there.
>>26319308
>>26319324
samefagging this hard
>Pokemon Black and White in Above Average
>Should be put in HAND HOLDING tier
I think the multiple island region shtick alone will put it in above average.
For me at least.
There's still not nearly enough info to judge this early.
>>26319318
>>26319337
>Hardly fixed anything that made G/S/C the most flawed generation
>Postgame is a literal copy/paste of the superior Platinum's
I don't get why it's supposedly so good.
We'll never get anything as good as Gen V again, I can say that quite confidently. Though S/M might come close. It's looking a lot more promising than X/Y at least.
>>26319187
>B/W
>10/10 story
Have you not read a good book or watched a good film before?
>>26319346
My sides are outta here.
Your taste is shit.
>ORAS below RS
Way to prove its all nostalgia. Literally the same fucking game with added features and extras in the remakes.
>>26319364
for a pokemon game was the best one though
>>26319370
nice photoshop faggot
>23:31:42
>23:32:49
>want to play b2w2 again
>don't want to do pokestar studios
>>26319290
>Claiming Gen 1 is better than HG/SS
>>26319357
>>26319364
>>26319370
>>26319380
ORASfags in full force today.
Gen 5 is legit the worst gen in the entire series.
You can really tell that people who like it grew up with it as their first pokemon game.
>>26319430
>PFFFFRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTT
>>26319430
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>26319389
Yeah, he's not me, and that chart is absolute bullshit. B/W and B2/W2 were the most, chosen one, edgy, fedoracore of the series. I think that says more about you that you try to defend it.
>>26319430
silver was my first and it's objectively the best
>>26319430
Now this is bait
>>26319392
Takes like 5 minutes. When I replayed W2 recently I was dreading it but it went by really fast.
>>26319430
If it weren't for HG/SS and Platinum, Gen 4 would be the worst by far. Diamond and Pearl were disgustingly bad.
>>26319430
>Played through every game multiple times
>Dropped Black & White before the 7th gym due to being bored as fuck
>Dropped B&W2 even earlier
Gen VI even managed to outdo gen V and that's saying something.
>>26318995
Damn, this is a great tier list. Except XY and ORAS are too low because memes.
XY is average for large amount of in-game content, great breeding additions, high quality new Pokemon, and mega evos. ORAS is below average for DexNav, well-executed remastering of story and lore, soaring and flying to routes, and some great remixes.
Both games have their flaws, but ORAS' are larger.
>>26319389
>for a pokemon game
Not even. It's kinda hard to take something like B/W's story seriously. The smaller approach they had for earlier games was fine.
>>26319405
Do you have autism?
>>26319380
This. Having it below Emerald I can understand for the missing features, but OR/AS are far superior to R/S.
>>26319337
HG/SS are very overrated and get too much praise. In addition to introducing new problems, they barely did anything to fix the originals' problems of having an awful level curve, unbalanced Pokémon distribution in the wild and among trainers (Why didn't Morty have a Misdreavus and why didn't Falkner have a Hoothoot or Noctowl?), and a barren, stripped down Kanto. But it seems like most fans of the games don't even notice or acknowledge these issues because they're attracted to the special gimmicks like Pokémon being able to follow you (Pokémon Amie makes me feel closer to my Pokémon than them just following you) and a unique Safari Zone that has the unfortunate problem of making you wait several days just to catch certain Pokémon. Not to mention the Game Corner was outright replaced with the tedious Voltorb Flip, and you weren't able to just simply trade Pokédollars for the coins. You had to waste a lot of time playing the damn minigame to get TMs and other items you wanted. It just amazes me that, despite all of these noticeable flaws, there are many people out there who still insist these are the best Pokémon games ever. They're not bad by any means, but they are hardly the best.
>gen v introduced reusable TMs
this alone makes it the best gen. no longer do I have to autistically collect every TM and only use the ones available in stores.
>>26319483
You're in the minority. Horrendous taste.
>>26319430
This tbqh onii-chan. Gen V'ers are pure, undiluted autism in its most natural form.Yukiko a best too.
>>26319430
I started with Gen ll and I like Gen V, if HG/SS didn't exist, Gen lV would actually be the worst overall.
I dropped in Sinnoh after the 6th badge, that was the first and only time I've lost interest in a pokemon game.
>>26319518
>Stop liking what I don't like!
>>26319518
>minority
Last time I looked, Gen 6 is the most loved and highest rated games in the series.
>>26319502
It's literally just nostalgiafaggotry.
>>26318995
>gen 1 games above anything
HAHAHAHAHA
>>26319500
the execution of oras was absolute despicable garbage though
>>26319380
A lot of where ORAS failed is how it compared to past remakes. In both HGSS and FRLG, we had new areas added and plenty of new, fun features. We also got cool, useful peripherals. In ORAS, there are no truly new areas (mirage spots replace mirage island, battle resort replaces frontier, revamped abandoned ship). The new features are great (dexnav and soaring) but old features like contests and secret bases deserved to be improved more than they were. Getting rid of berry blending was bullshit, too.
The updated story and lore were cool, but hgss had the arceus and celebi events and frlg had the deoxys event. The mystery and coolness factor of those are on par with that of delta episode.
>>26319357
>most flawed
It's almost universally hailed as the peak of the series dude.
>>26319259
Agreed. I never realized how good they were. It felt like a real adventure with the story and the places.
>>26318995
>spot the sinnohbabb: the list
Protip: every gen 6 game is better than every gen 4 and 5 game.
>>26319575
It's more "stop hating things for no reason". Also is that all people can do these days is call each other autistic?
>>26319612
Far better than HGSS.
>>26319625
No, that would be BW2. G/S/C may have gotten a lot of hype due to the pokemania of the day, but it's become obvious since then that it was a hugely flawed generation and more of a lazy cash-in on R/B/Y's popularity than anything.
>>26319622
Doesn't explain how it's below the originals.
>>26319590
Having nostalgia for a gen4 game? Are you fucking 12? I remember when diamond and pearl were released like it was yesterday. I'm incapable of having nostalgia for something that recent.
>>26318995
>gen 5 above anything
>>26319672
HG/SS praise is ultimately nostalgiafaggotry for Gen 2 you dolt. That's how remakes work.
Today I will remind them.
>It's a "Gen 5 kids get laughed off the board" thread.
>>26319654
was everything new revealed before the game came out?
was the demo datamined to reveal literally every stat and move change, and every trainer's pokemon and move sets?
did HGSS fail to deliver on simple improvements that crystal had?
>>26319650
For no reason? It was horrible. All the fanboys claim the game had some amazing characters, and story that rivals almost any other game. Neither of those things were even close to being true. The Pokémon were awfully over designed, and that game marked the beginning of dumbing the games down (and that says a lot for a children's game) I mean there's trainers that heal your pokemon at almost every turn. The game was not challenging, it was flat as hell, and I've given away my copies of both black, and black 2. Awful, awful games.
>>26319502
Pokeathlon was the greatest. Atmospheric sounds when you were next to water were great. Pokewalker, following, gym leader rematches, berry pot, sinnoh and hoenn sounds, swarms, gb sounds: all great.
The level curve argument is so stupid. I didn't notice this shit at all while playing, as I'm sure most non-autists didn't. What's the argument? It made the games harder? It's Pokemon. Stop crying.
Kanto was given Pal Park, Viridian Forest, Fighting Dojo, and Steven Stone. It's pretty great as far as postgame goes. Great music, too, such as the viridian forest theme, ecruteak, and ho-oh's battle theme.
HGSS aren't as amazing as B2W2, but they are the games that got me back into the series.
>>26319688
Is that why ORAS was hated?
>>26319741
i dont get it why waste so much words and time, shitting on a game you probably never finished let alone played the 2
fuck you your shitting a decent thread
>>26319741
>It's a "Newfags obviously invaded the board at some point since Gen V was nearly universally loved on /vp/ originally" thread
FTFY
This board has truly gone to shit.
>>26319767
No, the vast majority of OR/AS hate comes from asspain over the lack of Battle Frontier.
>>26319753
This.
The story was just as juvenile as any other pokemon game. The mere fact that the vocal minority try to claim B&W's story is good is testament to how young they are.
No pokemon fan enjoyed being pigeonholed into using the awfully designed gen 5 pokemon.
You know why "challenge mode" was added? It was so they could dumb down everything else. Challenge mode was literally just how the games were in previous gens.
Taking this into consideration, if you like gen 5 you're either -
>An actual living breathing autist.
>Underage.
>Both
This is non disputable.
>>26319782
it always goes to shit when a new game is announced
>>26318995
I agree with a lot of things on this list but I'd definitely adjust some things. Emerald should go up a tier, also you're giving X/Y and OR/AS a little too much flak although I agree they're about average at best.
>>26319666
Yes, it does. You're clearly using a different metric than OP. If I took a Pokemon game, added one more fun battle to it and that's it, by your rating, it's above the original. However, if you look at how much new shit we actually got, it's nothing.
Additionally, ORAS removed some features, such as berry blending. The game's overworld looks fairly ugly, even relative to the originals, because of the weird zoomed out camera combined with awkward, skinny chibi models and blocky feaures. They added annoying bits, like instantly warping after getting Surf (an immensely stupid move, because it means you have to hike all the way back to Petalburg to explore all the new Surf spots, like the one in the same town you just teleported from.
>>26319442
>not wanting that
what are you, gay?
>>26319782
I came back just recently and fuck, this place has changed. Outside of the "ICE CREAM POKEMAN" bait threads there was barely any hate for Gen V in 2013. Now it's in every fucking thread, people go out of their way to shit on it.
>>26319815
you also get given lati@s halfway through the game, have to backtrack through granite cave for mawile/sableye among other things.
>>26319773
>I should be capitalized
>Don't should have an apostrophe
>Comma after it
>Many instead much if put in front of words but words doesn't really make sense. Should have just used time which, in that case, would have been much
>Comma after finished
>This isn't Normiebook. Type out your numbers
>No need for that double space
>Capitalize fuck
>Comma after you
>You're instead of your
>*shitting on a
My god
>>26319724
>Gen 5
Will there ever exist a gen that surpasses how much of a joke this gen is?
>>26319843
>>Many instead of much
Before you fags point it out
>>26319808
>No pokemon fan enjoyed being pigeonholed into using the awfully designed gen 5 pokemon
Source: own asshole
On that challenge mode bit, I don't remember E4 having held items ever. Hm.
You're so quick to throw underage around. Telling.21: love the shit of gen v. Autist? Bruh, this is /vp/: we're all autistic. I'm fairly well-adjust, hard-working, and sociable, but I still spend hours of my day discussing Pokemon in this cuckbox. So yeah, probably autistic. As are you.
>>26319843
>Not know that gen V kids are still attending school
Anon please....
Cut them some slack.
>>26319842
Good points.
>>26319824
I don't even know where these faggots came from to be honest. Reddit? Tumblr?
It's like they just recently migrated here too.
>>26319824
>came back
>2013
Motherfucker that was hardly anytime at all. Remember when the board was /tr/? Probably not. No one's going out of their way to shit on the game, it just wasn't that good. Most people who played the games before genV was released saw that it wasn't that great. You'd see that too but your 15. No one expects you to have good taste.
>>26319843
>capitalizing greentext
>being a grammar nazi on the internet like you're god's gift to earth
Brother, they would LOVE you on this hip new site called reddit.
>>26319887
>Remember when the board was /tr/?
Not that anon, but I was here in 2010 and /vp/ loved the fuck out of B/W. I came back when B2/W2 was released and /vp/ universally praised that as well.
If you're pretending to be an oldfag, you're not doing a very good job of it.
>>26319892
I usually don't bother but there were so many errors I couldn't resist. Also, about the capitalizing free text thing, mu Normie phone automatically does that. Currently away from my computer so I'm stuck with this. Reddit's design is ugly as hell and difficult to get basic information from
>>26319808
I've been replaying all the games recently, and I can tell you for certain that BW/2's blows the rest of them out of the water. Also the Pokemon being awfully designed is just your opinion. Personally I think Gen V has the strongest batch of Pokemon out of the gens, and they're one of the reasons why I favour replying V over the other gens. There's so many good Pokemon to choose from, I always end up finding a new bro after a playthrough.
>>26319928
BW/2's story*
>>26319857
>Source: own asshole
Source >>26319724
Inb4
>N-n-n-n-no reviews don't matter gen 5 is the best because I said so
>On that challenge mode bit, I don't remember E4 having held items ever. Hm.
Held items or not, the E4 in Gen 5 were just as laughably easy as any other pokemon game.
If we're discussing challenge though, why don't you try explaining how X&Y provide, by far, the most difficult Nuzlocke challenge of any of the other games?
Don't even try to dispute this either, it's a universally agreed upon fact.Providing you don't use exp share.
>You're so quick to throw underage around. Telling.21: love the shit of gen v.
So you would have been about 15 when B&W first came out.
I rest my case, these underage faggots legit think their opinions hold any weight, it is comedy gold.
>>26319430
Gen 5 would be the worst, If gen 6 didn't come with a spoonful of shit in every box..
>>26319808
>No pokemon fan enjoyed being pigeonholed into using the awfully designed gen 5 pokemon
Jesus Christ, is it even possible to be any more of a wrong faggot?
I wish I had instant access to a full archive of 2010-2012 /vp/ just so I could chase all you underage little mongols back off to whatever shithole you crawled out of.
>>26319958
>So you would have been about 15 when B&W first came out.
It is common knowledge that gen v'ers grew up with the games m8. Probably the first/second game in the series they've played which is why they latch onto it while the rest of us laugh at them and their shit taste.
The creme of the crop though is how they've already gone full nostalgia mode and hate on gen 6, which is far and away superior to the shitshow that is gen v.
>>26319958
>XY nuzlocke
Currently running one and I can agree that it's hard as fuck. You can get fucked over real good with encounters. Current team is
>Lucario
>Vespiqueen
>Toxicroak
>Azumarill
>Tyrunt
>Helioptile
Haven't used the exp share yet and just God done beating that electric shit. His almost 1HKO bullshit with buffed thunderbolt was annoying as fuck.
>>26319923
I was here in 2010 and I remember people hating BW. Specifically the ugly over designed shit mons like smugleaf, and gothtower.
>>26318995
>HG/SS/C above average and G/S average
You don't even get full access to Johto Pokemon until after defeating the Elite Four and have to use the same Kanto pokemon from the previous games.
>Emerald
>Only average
Confirmed for shit taste.
>>26320002
>It is common knowledge that gen v'ers grew up with the games m8
I made a thread not long ago asking people to list both their first gen, favorite gen and least favorite gen.
The people who said Gens 1 or 2 typically chose 5 as their favorite and 3 as their least favorite.
The people who said Gens 3 or 4 typically chose 3 as their favorite and 5 as their least favorite. Some of them chose 4 as their favorite as well.
tl;dr: You're a fag.
>>26320028
>he unironically thinks people disliked Smugleaf or Gen V in general back in 2010
Fuck, it's Friday so you kids don't have school tomorrow.
>>26319995
>Gets blown the fuck out and shits the bed about being called underage
>"N-nuh uh, you are!"
Pottery.
I've been on 4chan longer than over half the years in your life friendo.
I bet you weren't even around when /vp/ was first created and we had the most autistic threads ever dedicated to people claiming a pokemon name so you could become the "official" tripfag of that pokemon.
Not that that fad lasted very long because it was autistic as fuck, but still, it was one of the very first things that happened during day 1 of /vp/ being made.I claimed Kabutops :^)
Get the fuck outta here you underage cunt, nobody liked Gen V here. The entire gen was ridiculed non stop for having awful looking pokemon, and rightly so.
>>26318995
I'd switch all the games in Masuda tier and below average tier but good list otherwise OP
>>26319290
Hoenn is shit
>All these opinions
>So many blogs to subscribe to
You're all literally retarded.
>>26320097
Explain
>>26320103
That's like, your opinion, fag.
>>26320084
>I bet you weren't even around when /vp/ was first created and we had the most autistic threads ever dedicated to people claiming a pokemon name so you could become the "official" tripfag of that pokemon.
Jesus christ I remember that shit. The guy setting it up had a goddamn google document set up and wrote down everybodies tripcodes so nobody who posted with a pokemon tripcode that wasn't on the doc would be acknowledged.
>>26320108
Ugly designs
Ruined rivals
Dropped day/night
Recycled sprites
Water
ORAS
>>26320084
>I bet you weren't even around when /vp/ was first created and we had the most autistic threads ever dedicated to people claiming a pokemon name so you could become the "official" tripfag of that pokemon.
That wasn't even the oldest fad on the board you fucking newfag. I bet you weren't even around when the board was pervaded with almost nothing but porn.
Get the fuck outta here you underage cunt, almost nobody hated Gen V here. The entire gen was praised non stop for its designs, gameplay, characters and story, and rightly so.
>>26320078
>disagree?
>child>>26320084
>>26320026
Other early threats -
>Double Furfrou battle
>Mr. Mime + Machoke battle
>Sawks
>Hawlucha
>Fucking Wobbuffet cave
>Random ace trainer with a high level Kadabra
X&Y nuzlockes are pretty brutal.
>>26319958
So you think I started playing Pokemon when I was 15? And you think 21 is underage? Are you wearing boxers or briefs on your head right now?
My first game was Sapphire in third grade, but I had been involved with Pokemon in other forms since the age of 5. My parents didn't want me playing video games at a young age, which is probably a good thing because I didn't wind up being a sperg. Now, is 10 years (now 16) of Pokemon experience not enough to form an opinion? I've played all the games, after all. Or are you so busy breaking your neck to try to suck your own dick that you can't recognize your assessment is wrong?
>>26320084
>I didn't like it so nobody did
Gen 5 has been loved by the majority here since its release. I feel like the hate it's been getting recently is in retaliation to all the love it gets.
>>26320127
Opinion
Opinion
An actually good point
From where?
Personal preference
That's gen 6
>>26320139
Literally a child on 4chan
>>26320139
>That wasn't even the oldest fad on the board you fucking newfag.
It was the first thing on the board.
>board being nothing but porn
How to spot a newfag - the post.
>>26320155
That furfrou duo killed my fucking starter and my spewpa. Fuck them
>>26320110
Fuck. You're right. I'm no better than any of you faggots. . .
>In that case
Soul Silver is objectively the best Pokemon game. If you disagree, please seek a mental physician, as you are clearly retarded.
>>26320173
From g/s (back sprites). This is common knowledge.
>>26320173
Weren't pretty much all of the returning pokemon backsprites from Gen 3 just touched-up versions of the Gen 2 backsprites?
>>26320193
He's actually right about the porn thing. 2010 /vp/ was filled to the brim with that shit.
>>26320084
>I AM RELEVANT
>SO IS MY OPINION
>>26320139
>That wasn't even the oldest fad on the board you fucking newfag.
>The first thing happening as soon as the board became a thing isn't the oldest fad
What the fuck am I reading.
>>26318995
>thinking ORAS is worse than RS
>>26320228
>What the fuck am I reading.
the babbling of a newfag who is parroting what others told him since he was never around when /vp/ was created.
I think the reason why people defend B2W2 so much is due to the MASSIVE postgame:
- Hundreds of medals to collect
- The dream world
- PWT
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
>>26320202
>>26320210
The fact that I've never noticed after all these years either means that they did a damn fine job or I'm mentally retarded. Most likely the latter
>>26319741
That is my exact reaction to reading through this thread.
How will they ever recover from this humiliating defeat?
>>26320261
>the dreamworld
I remember that one summer
>>26320282
The ones on emerald were that way, fire red and leaf green had new sprites though.
>>26320309
No, they were still the same.
>>26319259
I never played BW, only saw how shit the anime became, and I felt alienated.
However, after watching the animated trailer for BW2 I got the chills, and after palying it and experiencing such variety and no forced HMs I fell in love with the game.
>>26320168
>I feel like the hate it's been getting recently is in retaliation to all the love it gets.
That's probably exactly the case, honestly. /v/ is similar in that it also has this sort of contrarian mentality where people immediately start bashing the shit out of a game for no reason not long after it was nearly universally acclaimed throughout the exact same board.
/vp/ is no different really. I was also here around the time that the board was first coming up and I can definitely confirm that most people loved it; it got to the point that whoever trash-talked it was almost immediately laughed off the board, so I can see why some users started to push back against it.
>>26320348
That's 4chan in general. There's no deterrent for a minority to flip the tables on the majority with hate threads. Negativity speaks louder than positivity.
>>26320348
>Parrots what >>26319741 said since he's young and that's what young people do when they want to act cool
>Still pretending he was here when /vp/ was created after getting exposed for being a liar
>Implying gen 5 has ever been seen as anything other than a joke on /vp/ and /v/
You cannot make this shit up, lmao.
>>26320323
Uh, no, they weren't
>>26320465
Not sure what you're talking about, I've only posted in this thread twice.
>mfw this guy is taking black & white fags on his wild ride
>>26320490
Yes they were you dumb shit.
>>26320084
>>26320465
Hey faggot,
How does this thread >>26320195 make you feel?
>>26320323
Wrong
>>26320490
>>26320553
We're talking about the backsprites you ignoramus
>>26320553
back sprites you retard
>>26320500
>Maximum damage control post
Why are you suddenly trying to save face so hard? You've already embarrassed yourself.
>>26320547
>Gen 3 winning
>Gen 5 tied for least favorite
Makes me feel oh so good, my assblasted friend.
>Makes thread with N as the poster boy
>Gen 5 gets slammed
Pottery
o
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r
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Can someone explain the appeal of BW/B2W2?
I played Black & Black 2 and I really don't get the appeal, and whenever I ask someone who is a fan of these games all I get is "there's no reason to ask such a thing, clearly you just don't like it but other people do!"
>>26320584
>Gen 3 winning
>Gen 5 tied for least favorite
Now I know you're baiting. Glad we cleared this up.
>>26320587
Best postgame by far
>>26320584
>Gen 3 winning
All that does is explain the amount of teenagers on this board who sadly started with that gen.
>>26320587
It's the "shadow the hedgehog" of the series. Fanboys will defend it without reason.
>>26320587
Do you like being stuck with ugly, overdesigned messes of pokemon?
Are you under the age of 18?
If the answer to both of these is no, then there is literally no appeal to B&W. I dropped Gen 5 personally. So damn boring.
>>26320620
Gen 3 isn't winning anyway, it's got like five votes compared to Gen 5's almost 20 votes.
>>26320639
>I can't count
I've just skimmed the thread and I count at least 10 votes for gen 3.
>>26320584
What am I damage controlling, exactly? You seem a little upset by the fact that multiple people claim they've been here since /vp/'s beginnings and saw that most people liked gen 5.
I mean gen 5 isn't even my favorite or my least favorite so it personally doesn't affect me either way, but you seem so invested in this shit.
So we all just gonna ignore Emerald or somethin?
>>26320667
You can't count for shit apparently. I just revisited the thread and now Gen 3 has 8 votes. Previously when I made that post it had only 5.
Remember that the second number = favorite gen.
>>26320628
I thought it was a snooze fest too, that's why I'm having such a hard time understanding its appeal. I don't shit on people who do like it, but very rarely do I get a straight answer out of these people.
>>26320622
That makes sense too
>>26320614
At least that's an honest answer. I don't remember the postgame being any good, but maybe that's because I got lazy and never finished the post game. I honestly don't remember.
>>26320686
I have no problem with emerald, so why discuss it?
>>26320686
I liked Emerald
>>26320671
>What am I damage controlling, exactly?
Your underage opinion, which you're now desperately trying to hide by claiming gen 5 isn't your favorite.
>You seem a little upset by the fact that multiple people claim they've been here since /vp/'s beginnings and saw that most people liked gen 5.
Not true, as the other people who actually were here when /vp/ was created (as apposed to those that don't even know of the major board events that happened on the very day the board was created) have also verified.
You on the other hand, are just parroting shit that everybody knows to pretend that you've been here since then.
>>26320733
The post game of b2w2? You get to call a girl every now and then. That's about it.
>>26320628
>So damn boring.
Wasn't ORAS kinda, y'know...NOT directed by Masuda?
>>26320584
>Hoennbaby can't even read through a simple thread
V is winning you dumb inbred.
>>26318995
What a horrible fucking list. Wow. Never knew anybody could be this retarded.
>>26320587
I find it hard to believe nobody answered that question for you. I'll give you a quick rundown of why I love them.
Story:
Yada yada, I'm sure you've heard this. Characters were great, especially N. All gym leaders were given some sort of role and story, gyms and music that reflected their personality. Plot is not incredible or anything, but the twist in the pokemon league in bw was unprecedented in terms of departing from the Pokemon formula. What Ghetsis did was truly fucked up, dangerous, and real: corrupting a human creates a hugely powerful asset. Second sequels in Pokemon history and let you see how things have changed ingame and with the memory link. Handled better than gs in this manner.
Region:
I love Unova as a region. Stick around when we have a gen v appreciation thread and you'll see why. Varied geography, comfy seasons and bridges, wonderful locations like Pinwheel Forest, Village Bridge, Virbank, Marine Tube, etc. And you get to go through the whole region in two different directions. Version differences mean something more than just Pokemon selection.
Music:
Amazing. Just so, so great. Excellent battle themes. Overworld themes are great, and tons of them have variable instrumentation. Unique gym themes. Final Pokemon music. Tons of different genres and flavors, like flamenco, jazz, folk, etc. No two towns shared a song.
Pokemon:
Tons of new Pokemon. If there isn't a team of six you like, you're trolling or nostalgiablind. Having only new Pokemon for ingame BW made it a true new adventure. It was appropriate to bring back oldies for BW2, though.
There's other miscellaneous things, like catching N's old Pokemon, White Treehollow, Challenge Mode, Funfest, DW, going into friends' games, Join Avenue, Anville Town, PWT, medals, and more, but I hope this bit clears it up for you.
>>26320749
>Your underage opinion, which you're now desperately trying to hide by claiming gen 5 isn't your favorite
Uhh sure, whatever you say.
>>26320757
Yeah, that's pretty much it apart from that forgettable little world tournament thing.
>>26320799
You should really get to know yourself better then! :^)
>59 / 7 / 48 / 1
>Get blown the fuck out in this thread
>Cannot argue back anymore
>Make a thread and samefag in it
>Post it here
>B&W is still barely ahead
Will there ever be a time when gen five autists aren't a laughingstock?
>>26320757
>>26320829
>PWT
>forgettable
>>26320887
I already had forgotten about it until you just reminded me again with this post.
>>26320813
What ghetsis did was real? He made a kid live in the wild so he could develop the magical ability to speak to them, so that he could then use the kid to trick people into letting their pokemon go, so that he could be king of new York? Seems kinda, idk, stupid.
>>26318995
You're an idiot. I can't believe this thread has so many replies. Oh wait, yes I can.
>>26320902
Is this an admittance of mental impairment, or...?
>>26318995
>XYORAS worse than Gen 1
>Worse than DP
>Worse than RS
Only on /vp/
>>26320916
Sounds more like an admittance that the PWT was shit and nobody gave a fuck about it to me.
fixed
>>26320943
This sentence confirms >>26320916
PWT was one of the best things in BW2, only thing i wished they done is added the Frontier Brains in it too
>>26320951
Muh
NIGGA!
>Gen 5 faggots have already run out of steam in their OWN circlejerk thread
>They've gone to make more threads with the subject "B-black and white are good, stop hating us" right now due to being triggered hard
Retreat to your safeplace you tumblr loving fucks. Kek
>>26320905
N could already speak to Pokemon before N brainwashed him. That's why he made a good pawn. He had him live with abused Pokemon to give him a reason to what to rid everyone of their Pokemon. N's conviction convinced all other members of Plasma, creating an army. Pretty smart plan.
Conviction is huge, dude. You can't rule the world unless people have reason to go along with what you say. N truly believed humans were evil because he came to the conclusion "himself". It didn't seem likely to him that his father was deceiving him.
N became an extension of Ghetsis, rather than a hired gun.
>>26320940
Seriously.
>>26320846
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Care to elaborate?
>>26320943
And here I thought this place couldn't get any more retarded
>>26320971
you do realize you're arguing with underage right?
why would you expect them to be able to handle the banter?
>>26320951
I can second this
I
II/VI
IV
fuck d/p so forgettable
>>26320951
Platinum was complete shit compared to BW2. Gen IV was way too slow to be entertaining.
>>26320813
It does. Thanks!
I actually really liked N as a character myself. In retrospect you're pretty spot on in terms of the gym leaders. I can remember almost all of them!
The region, I'm not so sure of. I liked a couple of the locations, but not so much the cities themselves (with very few exceptions).
I really didn't like the new Pokemon that much, though. Included is a list of my top 20, hopefully it gives you an idea of the sort of look I leans towards. (Unfortunately nostalgia goggles are pretty tight when you've been a fan for as long as I have, at least in terms of Poke designs)
>>26320951
platinum is shit though. put gen 3 in godly and then we'll talk.
>>26318995
I like how the only good thing abortions can tell about BW is "m-muh story", while at the same time ignoring all the handholding, shitty railroaded region with no exploration, terrible gimmicks, awful starters, forgettable Pokemon and no notable gameplay changes on top of borderline unplayable online
Guess the western AAA devs were right all along, modern gamurrs are only interested in "cinematic experiences", waifus and muh feels
>>26320951
Switch Emerald and Crystal and I'll concede
>>26320971
>with every smug anime girl, my argument strengthens!
I'd love to see anti-gen-fivefags provide a non-baitworthy argument. But that's not what I'll get. I'll get another self-righteous Korean doodle.
>>26320973
You know what's a better motivator than blind conviction? Money and power, with conviction. So I guess team rocket's story is a lot better and more realistic then team plasma's. It had the same elements, after Giovani went into hiding team rocket went through a lot of a hit to try to get him to return. That's conviction, and they didn't dress Renaissance fair queers.
>>26321007
You have basic bitch tastes
>>26320971
>homophobic slur
>circlejerk
>Retreat to your safeplace you tumblr loving fucks. Kek
>triggered
>tumblr
>safespace
>kek
>smug anime girl
Wow, this is the most 4channiest 4chan post I have ever seen. I feel the need to bury it in a timecapsule. Do you mind if I screenshot this?
>BW2
>God tier
Is this a meme, it's the only main series game I haven't played
Black/White is probably the weakest entry I've played
>>26321007
>Chikorita and Meganium in top 20
Anon, you seem like a really nice guy, but...
>>26321007
Are you a grill? Be honest with me now.
>>26321053
To be fair, I liked Eevee long before Nintendo started promoting them in the last couple of years.
I mean you gotta remember, for a long time it was just PIKACHU THIS and PIKACHU THAT; but at some point the Eevolutions started getting some love, and, eventually, Eevee.
But nah everything else does feel pretty basic, but I can't help it. I like cute shit.
>>26321078
I know, everybody hates them.
>>26318995
After Gen 6, and seeing the starters/legendaries, I do not have a lot of faith in Gen 7. I'm really afraid that, especially since it's the big 20th anniversary, they're gonna make it super casual like X/Y. It feels like they don't need to try very hard to make people happy, so they'll just pop out an easy simple game for people to eat up.
It'll be like X/Y. Maybe there'll be a neat new mechanic, but as a whole, the game won't be very fun.
>>26321007
So you like cuter, softer, more simplistic designs, it seems. Large eyes, small or not visible mouth.
How about Joltik? I could also see you liking Yamask, Venipede, Sewaddle, Lillipup, and Klink. You seem to like mammals, so maybe Liepard or Emolga, as well.
A good portion of the Pokemon you posted are in BW2, as well! Eevee, for instance, can be caught before the third gym.
>>26321040
>I'd love to see anti-gen-fivefags provide a non-baitworthy argument.
>non-baitworthy argument
>Somebody writes one up (implying I will, that's not what I'm here for)
>B-bait
The most in depth critique you'll receive from me is this.
Out of all of the pokemon games I've played (which is all of them), I've only ever not finished 2. B&W and B&W2. The boredom I felt in those games cannot be topped.
As much of a slog as ORAS was, and despite how much I dislike it, it was STILL better than any of the gen 5 games because at least I finished the fucking thing.
>>26321040
Be my guest.
>>26320971
How many smug animu pics and generic memes are you going to post in this thread before you realize that nobody fucking likes you or agrees with you?
>>26321106
I like em'. SD Seed Bomb Meganium was a bro in HG.
>>26321113
>w-well, I-I was bored okay?! geez
Oh wow so in depth, I totally see your point now!Faggot.
>>26321117
>nobody fucking likes you or agrees with you?
I wouldn't go so far as to say I like them, but I agree with them.
>>26321092
M-Maybe?
>>26321112
I do like Joltik & Klink! but I was pretty neutral to those other ones.
I did think the Litwick evolution line was pretty cool
>>26321113
You're not even good at this...
>>26321043
Yeah, Ghetsis and Giovanni are similar in their charisma. What Roclet tried to do was brute force their way into powet, though. That's way different than Plasma, who mostly tried to convince people to release their Pokemon willingly. A lot less messy, and is likely to net better results if dome correctly.
Also, Plasma did have money and power. Lots of members, and some fancy tech. They made an entire castle emerge from the ground. They had a flying ship with an ice cannon. I really don't think Rocket had those same funds.
I kinds like costumes, too. Sure, I remember disliking them at first, but I think I've changed my mind. And you gotta admit Neo Plasma's are cool.
>>26321077
It's good but overrated
BW belongs in trash tier along with ORAS
>>26321163
>Derailed the thread since the start
I think he's pretty good at this.
>>26321139
He articulated that comment in a mature way that was intended to help you understand how stupid you sound.
Then you make it seem like he was struggling to find ways to make a point and that he must be some kind of simple minded child that can't handle his boredom. You're an idiot.
Also games are supposed to be fun, if people get so bored with the game play and the story that they just quit halfway through then the game has failed. It's as simple as that.
>>26321117
He's doing God's work at keeping underage Unovabortions like you and that Hilbert avatarfag in check.
>>26321117
First 3/4 of this thread is filled with gen 5 hate and people agreeing with me.
Remain asshurt though, I'll be sure to stay here triggering the fuck out of you.
>>26321139
Calm down autismo. It's just a game.
>>26321179
>that game has failed
*for that particular individual
>>26321113
That's a decent point, and definitely a fair one. Maybe if you put up with the game for a little bit and finished it, though, you might actually enjoy it. Same games require that, but I wouldn't say it makes them bad. I could not get past Osohe Castle for the longest time because it felt boring to me, bit now Mother 3 is one of my favorite games. Now might be a good time to try Gen V again while we're waiting for SM, if you're up to it. They were definitely better with wi-fi, though.
>>26321164
>They made an entire castle emerge from the ground. They had a flying ship with an ice cannon.
Look at how amazing the genV story was
>>26321225
Are you looking for realism or something? Why? It's a magical pet anime game.
The castle emerging from the ground was pretty cool, in my opinion. I can only imagine the machinery necessary for that kind of operation.
>>26321216
No, for many people. There is a reason gen V is always voted as the least liked/popular anywhere BUT on /vp/, which is full of manchildren who gauge the game's quality based on the number of waifus they can fap as opposed to genuine gameplay improvements.
>>26321218
Not sure how long you've been in the thread, but since you aren't sperging out like the rest, I'm going to assume you've only just came in here.
I didn't play the games for 10 minutes and put them down. I played White up until the 7th gym before dropping it, and W2 up to around the 3rd/4th gym.
I'm not a fan of the Gen 5 pokemon at all, so forming a team that clicked with me just never happened, which is one of the main reasons as to why I could never be bothered finishing them.
One of the very few things I liked about gen 5 is the music. I can't really give it any more praise than that, since again, they're the only two pokemon games in the entire series that I haven't finished.
>>26321275
lmao at that pic
It's just oldest to newest
>>26321298
So why isnt BW/2 higher than XYORAS? /vp/ told me everyone hated those games
>>26321275
RBY were the best only in terms of the culture relating to the games at the time. I don't think anybody can successfully argue they were the best games, even fore the time. For that reason, it seems like this poll can't be concerned with the game quality.
Also, it seems to be nearly linearly decreasing relative to the release date of the gen. Nostalgia?
>>26321298
Almost. Gen 6 is beating Gen 5.
He is right though, go anywhere other than /vp/ and you'll find that gen 5 generally leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths.
/vp/ never even always liked it either. This place is filled with contrarians. Just take a look at the polls now as to which starter of gen 7 is best. Popplio had barely any votes a few days ago, and now it's coming close to being number 1.
>>26321275
>brings up a poll filled with Genwunners to prove a point
I mean if we're going strictly by the opinions of casuals outside of /vp/ then we might as well proclaim R/B/Y to be the best Pokemon games ever.
>>26321312
/vp/ is delusional. See >>26319724
Gen 6 receives much more praise than gen 5
X and Y are the highest rated pokemon games on metacritic, no?
>>26319923
i remember the first few days of release because of how people kept saying they boxed their starter on account of how useless and shit they were
>>26321290
I've been in here for longer than I should. I had figured you played the games for more than a couple of hours. Up until the the seventh gym? I think that's actually the point where the plot picks up speed again. It sounds like you put in a lot of effort to finish the games, and it doesn't seem like you want to try them again. That's fine: it's not inconceivable that you don't like them. I had never played Plat before, and I'm trying to now, but it's similarly not holding my attention. I'm gonna keep at it, though. I think you might really enoy BW2 though, and especially the PWT. Colress is a fun character with awesome battle music.
Speaking of which, glad you like the music. I adore it myself.
>>26318995
>the only games I skipped are in God Tier
shiiiiet
What did I miss exactly? iirc I managed to make it through the story before dropping B&W but CBF to go more than 6 badges into X&Y.
>>26321353
Tepig is great in-game, though. Flame Charge is incredible. Oshawott's not bad, too.
>>26321371
I think as far as B&W goes, I'm done with the game. I was far in and it still did nothing to grab me.
B&W 2 though, I suppose I can try again sometime before S&M since I wasn't all that far in.
Still highly doubt I'll like it, but worst case scenario,I can still refresh my memory on the game for future shitposting.
>BW2 in God Tier
>It's the only game I haven't finished due to boredom
Oh.
>>26321433
Nice. Make sure to pay attention to small details and side missions. They make the game fun. Some of the Funfest missions are great for getting Pass Orbs to useful Pass Powers, and ones that involve battling are pretty useful for grinding.Too bad you can't visit Unity Tower or use Join Avenue.
Try to have fun, and hit up those hidden grottos.
>>26318995
ORAS was directed by Ohmura but I can agree with this.
I dunno why but the Pokemon selection in BW2 always felt like a romhack to me.
>>26321490
That's XY for me.
>>26321503
This.
>>26321490
That's what makes it so good :^)
>>26321490
It's arguable that GenV tried harder to replace more existing pokemon than any gen before it, though if that was the reason you'd have felt that way about B&W as well
>>26318995
I made some necessary adjustments.
Btw It surely will be average tier (considering they are the first two pair). If we are lucky we could get a platinum-tier third title.
If we are unlucky those game will be another xy-tier crap followed by a oras-tier shitty sinnoh remake.
>>26318995
this is literally the "everything was better in my days" verion of a kid who started playing in gen 5 or something. everything newer is total shit for no other reason than it's new and everything older is somewhat shitty because its old technology. fuck off. i played since gen 1 was released when i was a child and x/y were fantastic games.
>>26321920
My nigga.
I'm 28 and I enjoyed the fuck out of XY too.
The only new game that I genuinely didn't like is ORAS.
>>26318995
Put HGSS in below average and it's perfect
>replay HG
>having fun at first, slowly but surely start losing steam
>completely bored by Radio Tower team rocket
>dreading that lifeless Kanto
>drop it
>start playing B2
>having the time of my life, all these bros, all this adventure
>can't wait to start playing again every day after work
>>26322420
>tfw browsing and playing W2 at work now
Don't tell my boss
>>26321920
>x/y were fantastic games.
lmao!!!!! lmao!!!!!
>>26318995
i think b/w were better than b/w 2
>>26321111
x/y were rushed as fuck, had to be on a new engine, and had tons of garbage like poke amie wasting dev time. the first 2 gyms of the game are great, after that it just becomes pure trash, worse than gen1.
im sure gen 7 will be alot better than x/y/or/as
>>26321920
people dont like x/y. get over it dude, they were bad games and a massive step down after gen5 and hg/ss/platinum
>>26318995
>Gen5
>Good
pick one
>Emerald
>Average
kill urself
>>26319454
>B/W and B2/W2 were the most, chosen one, edgy, fedoracore of the series
what does this even mean?
>>26322456
I won't I promise.
>>26320686
It was the worst of Gen 3. Nothing else to discuss.
>>26318995
>Gen 6
>Not above averga
You're obivously retarded
>>26318995
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