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Game download:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ynnmmo4k9noe0cr/%E5%B9%BB%E6%83%B3%E4%BA%BA%E5%BD%A2%E6%BC%94%E8%88%9E.rar
If it has letters messed up, you'll need to download locale emulator(Sometimes just changing the applocale works, but not always):
https://mega.nz/#!q0lixKqI!n07oANzavBNSgGwWtm5Ezyuf9B0ifT36yi6Vmyi3kjo
Pupppetdex, can't open online, use a spreadsheet viewer:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/ozuu2sf3ovitzux/tpdp_PuppetDex_1.91.xlsx
Trailer for the new expansion (released next commiket):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS5N0_paQME
>>24859172
Dammit OP, why you started the thread with a pic of super obscure 2hus? anons will not find the thread!
In addition to all that, here have a link to the wiki too and a picture of what the game actually looks like.
http://162.208.49.218/wiki/Main_Page
The URL is temporary and should be getting changed soon (Supposedly).
Also, I finally got to roughly translate most of the dialogue between Mamizou and the gatekeeper/farmer/guy.
Gatekeeper (1st line to Mamizou. 2nd line to no one in particular):
>あれ? 稗田の当主?
("Huh? You're the head of the Hieda family?")
>体験版だから この先は 進めませんぜ?
("It's not going to continue because this is a demo?")
Mamizou (1st line to Gatekeeper; 2nd line to player):
>あら それは残念。
(Oh, that's a shame.)
>せつかく この先の案内ができると思ったんじゃがのう・・・。
(I'll need a more fluent anon to translate this one. Guessing Mamizou is saying "I thought I would be able to guide you pass this giant potato field ... .")
Gatekeeper (1st line to himself. 2nd line to player):
>じゃがのう・・・?
("Potatoes ... ?")
>ま この先は製品版で遊んでくれということさ!
(Anyways, just continue playing this unfinished version as much you want!")
Mamizou (1st line to Gatekeeper. 2nd and 3rd lines to player):
>と いうことですわ。
("Well said.")
>今回は ここでお預けみたいですわね。
("It seems like we'll have to stop here.")
それじゃあ 私も用事を見つけたので 先に失礼させてしいただきますわね。
(Not too sure about this entire part. I think she's saying "Well then, excuse me but I'll have to go take care of something I've found earlier."
>>24859228
Pls don't bash my Sariel waifu.
>>24859255
that is Sariel? is hard to tell without her wings.
>>24859255
Good to know that really is the end of the demo then, although I already figured that was the case.
>>24859255
>Potato field
Guess we get to bully the Aki Sisters in the expansion.
>>24859000
I'm pretty sure that the growths from the stat ranks (IVs) are already calculated for the displayed stats, anon.
>>24859255
Tempted to delete and repost this; didn't quote the last line and I've missed some quotation marks for the third, fourth, and sixth lines.
>>24859316
Is that the Marisa that the real Marisa fights you with?
I assumed you made a starter Marisa who had 14 speed from an S IV which I said wouldn't match up with what the Marisa you fight would have, but if that's actually the one you fight with the A ranks then yeah you're right on the money.
>>24859316
Yup, yup. It's the Marisa that was borrowed to fight the starter.
>>24859357
Huh, didn't know you even got a chance to ever view its stats, but now that I think of it I forgot you can just view it in the battle.
There's still one more flaw with that though: The one in your picture has a speed emblem on it, which it may not always have. And there's also no guarantee that it's the same exact puppet that she actually uses, but it seems extremely likely that it is.
I'm going to go check to see if she always has that emblem, and if not then what she's at without it.
>>24859379
Tried it 3 times, speed emblem every time. Looks like it's guaranteed unless we really did roll a 1 in 5 chance 4 times in a row.
Seems like the dream fragment might actually be a 30% boost to speed and both attack types. That's nuts.
>>24859305
But you already could bully them.
>>24859444
Well maybe now bullying them will have story significance.
>人形舞闘会準備中
(Doll Dance Brawl in preparation)
"Brawl" was substituted for "party fight." However, keep in mind that 会 has the same meaning as "a group getogether," so don't get any assumptions about multis or arenas.
>>24859305
>>24859444
>>24859452
I'm pretty sure that Mamizou is just insulting Human Village, anons.
>>24859459
I do not follow.
>>24859479
She's calling the village "farmland," not a place to shelter and be inhabited by humans.
However if you're asking about the translation, I'm assuming that the sign hinting at a new location or feature in the expansion.
>>24859459
It's probably for the Battle Tower equivalent they've shown screens of.
Is Kokoro still best in the demo?
>>24859633
Aside from your starter yeah probably, not like you can really do anything with it though.
>>24859459
I have nightmares with these.
>>24859459
I wouldn't be surprised if they put some sort of login and serial shit to the new game to be honest.
>>24859744
didn't mean to quote
>>24859744
That seems unlikely since it requires the original game to work at all and that didn't have it.
>今は会場の準備してるから先に行っちゃだめだぜ。
("It's useless to try to go through here because they've already prepared the meeting place here .") or ("It's useless to try to go through here because there's already a meeting going on.") Will need another anon to help confirm which translation it is.
However, this dialogue is most likely flavour text and just to show off a new exit from the Human Village.
>>24859744
Don't jinx it, anon.
Assist or Power Eirin?
>>24859915
Assist in my opinion. Eirin in my team was too damn slow and squishy.
>>24859915
Assist is currently #12 on the JP usage charts, power isn't even on it.
Doremy's Learnset:
Start - Yang Energy, Tuning
Lv7 - Mirror World
Lv10 - Lullaby
Lv14 - Soul Hound
Lv19 - Destruction
Will get back to grinding Doremy to Lv 30 in about in hour. Other anons should start grinding the other new puppets.
>>24860045
Well those are pretty weak attacks.
>>24860045
please tell me you're at least using cheat engine's speedhack.
>>24860059
Well, yeah, they're sub-level-20 skills.
They're actually pretty damn solid considering that, albeit no STAB on anything other than yang energy.
>>24860045
I was autism enough to do all the dream shard testing but grinding puppets to 30 in the demo is too much even for me.
God speed out there anon, you're a far more patient man than I.
>>24860045
I'm sorry Anon these orbs aren't gonna farm themselves, I can't help you right now.
>>24860095
The joke of course being once he grinds that far he'll find out they disabled style changes in the demo.
>>24859444
I wonder why is almost universally agree between touhou artists that Minoriko is busty while Shizuha is flat as fuck, even more considering that the later is the older.
>>24860127
Age has nothing to do with bust size.
Also it makes more sense for the harvest girl to have larger breasts.
>>24859933
helper eirin returns!
Really though, EirinA being that high surprises me. I should train one and see what the fuss is about.
Changing gears. For those not up to date: there's been a notable addition to the upcoming expansion.
Your chosen starter has a special heart symbol, and this allows it to make use of a special item that an anon in the previous thread ( >>24858608 ) confirmed has the effect of raising FoAtt, SpAtt, and Speed by 20%-30%.
Another anon summarized it well: ( >>24858709 )
>Now everyone's favorite 2hu is pretty much always going to be the MVP of the team.
In my mind at least this appears to be a clever analog to megas, sans the stupidity. Your favorite and your opponent's favorite will simply get a non-trivial boost in fights. Let the waifu wars commence.
>>24860072
>>24860095
>>24860100
>>24860115
Looks like I'm grinding all 7 new puppets to lv 30manually.
>>24860168
WAIFUWARS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAjuEGoWCWk
>>24860168
>Another anon
>They both link to me
You got all the confirmed info but I'd like to add my own speculation to that as well: This is just a guess, but I feel like the stats it boosts are going to change based on your style.
The description of the item itself is extremely open-ended and vague which is a weird decision if it is nothing more than just the attack and speed boost, not to mention that it'd be very underwhelming on defensive / support units which goes against the concept of it seeming to be to ensure that any starter you pick ends up being viable throughout the game.
I would really like to see it switch over to boosting defenses and health for defense style or health and attacks for power etc etc, but this is again just a guess and right now it's 100% offensive-based.
>>24860204
Pictured, Anon in the future.
>>24860212
We now must force grind Anon to grind up Orange too.
>>24860136
But the harvest one is Minoriko.
>>24860127
Probably because the official art of shizuha, she is flat as a wall, and in Hopeless Masquerade, you can see quite the difference in bust.
>>24860217
Better hope that I don't finish grinding everything up to level 100 by the 29th, then.
>>24860225
Yes.
So.
She has larger breasts.
>>24860233
Sorry, I read wrong your post.
>>24859255
No potatoes, just Ye Olde Nihongo.
>"I thought I'd be able to show you past here at last, but..."
>"But...?"
>"Anyway, you'll be able to play the next part in the full version!"
>>24860232
I don't think that's statistically possible in the time given without use of a cheat engine.
>>24860240
Ah, thanks for the elaboration, anon; it did felt like something was off whilst I was trying to translate it.
>>24860212
Oh, and to show the description that I was talking about, translated by our friendly translator anon that's been with us today.
>>24858142
>Constantly changes colors
I'd be very surprised if it remains exclusively as an offensive buff throughout the game.
>>24860241
I'll give up eating and 16 hours everyday until I, at least, get every new puppet up to lv 70, anon.
>>24860251
Maybe it gives a different buff based on the style?
With normal getting the same as Power.
>>24860273
At some point you could probably figure out some way to automate it, it's not like route 1 puppets will be able to kill you after a certain point. So you could at least have a sandwich.
>>24860292
Yeah, that's what I speculated in my first post, the one you replied to was an addition to it.
Normal gets +attack +speed which makes more sense on speed.
I'd figure it'd go something like: Defense gets +HP +defense, power gets +HP +attacks, speed is +attack +speed, assist is a lesser boost to all stats and extra is ????
Maybe a bigger boost to all stats than assist? I dunno.
>>24860136
>This touhou is canonically a mom
That is hot and creepy at the same time.
>>24860472
Are you saying you wouldn't make a GODDESS a mother given the chance?
>>24860168
>30% boost to both attack stats and speed with no drawbacks
What the fuck. That's a Life Orb strapped to over half a Choice Scarf with no drawback. If that was in Pokemon, it would be banned from Ubers for overcentralizing items to a hilarious degree
What the fuck balances it?
>>24860486
Description mentions something about it not working past the boundary, which probably means it won't do anything or won't be allowed in netplay.
>>24860486
It can only be used on your starter to begin with, with potentially some means of allowing it to be used on other puppets eventually as well but that's no guarantee.
No way to say anything more on it for now though, we just have to wait and see how the expansion goes.
>>24860486
The fact only your starter can use it.
>>24860472
>Kogasa with a fully grown Flandre
Just what the hell is going on in this pic, anon?
>>24860472
It's even better when you realise that while kanako adopts her form as a mean to interact with others, Suwako's form has less of a freedom, being more a consequence of people's faith on her and assuming her as a frog or loli, they literally made her look like so and she was the more fuckable one.
So who's going to get the Dream Fragment on your team
pic related
>>24860527
I'm pretty sure you can earn the heart mark on other puppets. The transfer infosheet just says that puppets with the "met in a special encounter" description or whatever it was have it from the very start. You need it for the white dress costume, and I doubt you'll only ever be able to see that on 1-2 puppets.
Been thinking, since the expansion will let you get your puppets from the normal game, can you transfer items with them? As in, can you get 2 of Suwako's items?
>>24860541
>>24860542
Please do not bully by associating her with shitposters, it's not her fault.
>a regular run of the elite 4 up to Yumeko takes more or less 6 minutes.
>a run with speedhack at speed 5 takes 1 minute 50 seconds
Oh baby.
>>24860547
The Wakasagihime in the transfer image lost her item, so unless he happened to remove it before he took the screenshot, I don't think so.
She also gained 150000 EXP, so either she gained some weight or the leveling curve has changed overall.
>>24860564
Relax anon.
>>24860486
I'm guessing you only get one, and there's no way to trade items as of now.
>>24860542
pic related
>>24860568
thank god for CE
>>24860574
If I'm remembering correctly it was confirmed that she (thus 80 cost puppets) take more experience to level than before.
>>24860542
The happiest.
>>24860568
Kasen is a fake hermit!She's also pretty solid ingame
>>24860644
>Has the most tragic backstory
>Is the most happy
Wat?
>>24860652
I'd be happy too if I could be a ghost who has control over life and death and happens to be Yuyuko.
>>24860652
Yuyuko puppet is a pretty happy puppet.
Also, she has been dead for so long that, unless she's planning on something and decides to drop her act, she doesn't give any fucks.
>>24860668
Maybe she enjoys the fact she is out of the reincarnation circle, which means she will never have to deal with pic related over her "sins".
>>24860681
The ghost is trustable, there's no reason Eiki should judge her badly, even if someone finally makes the tree bloom, since she's good at her job.
>>24860542
I'd like to know if there are any anons here who chose PC98 main.
Anyone got the skill page?
>>24860542
I hope her new form is really good. Wind nerfs kinda suck since she wasn't particularly strong before.
>>24860728
You mean the skill card list?
http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=520.0
>>24860738
yeah, thanks.
>/jp/
The max level for the puppets in the demo is Lv 20. FUCK.
>>24860854
Think of all that time you've wasted Anon.
>>24860854
It's okay anon, you tried your best, you've earned your relief from duty.
That's a hell of a lot better than it just going up to 30 and just being "jklol no style change allowed", the suffering ended early.
>>24860854
They thought in everything.
>>24860864
At least now he can save other anons from wasting time
>>24860864
>>24860865
It's okay; I can just grind the other 6 to lv 19.
>>24860874
For what purpose.
>>24860874
A true warrior is never removed from the battlefield by any means other than death.
>>24860757
I don't see a waifu circlejerk though.
>>24860907
That's cause your waifu a shit.
>>24860907
Is a bait, ignore it.
>>24860646
Kasen is a good girl even as a fake hermit.Unfortunately, I don't know how to build her properly.
>>24860757
>/jp/
>>24860930
/jp/ has a 3 months old and counting thread for discussing Nitori's nipples, it's a cool board.Really though, the people there are really nice and kind when they want to be.
>>24860963
>discussing Nitori's nipples
brb, /jp/
>>24860963
And /po/ has a thread thats over a year old. Its not that much of a big deal for slower boards.
>>24861009
I meant that according to the subject, /po/,/e/, /p/, etc, there are many boards slower, but /jp/ has a constant influx of people creating a thread only for it to die in a few posts, even without that many posters. It's interesting in the sense some autist kept bumping the thread over all this time.
>>24861045
Well the thread is about to hit /jp/'s autosage limit so it'll be gone soon enough.
So which type is going to be the best off in the new expansion?
>>24861053
Sound, if you want to crush Reimu Oak
>>24861058
I mean in terms of the metagame
>>24861053
I dunno but looking forward to dream.
>>24861053
Dream seems to be pretty good, so far; only used a single Rice Cookie since I've gotten Doremy until she steamrolled the Baka Squad.
>>24861060Your favorite
>Fight Reimu for the first time
>She nearly wrecks my entire team
Thank god for Keine, this game doesn't fuck around.
>>24861076
If Reimu gave you a hard time Remilia is gonna tear you a new asshole.
>>24861060
The metagame is "waifu + other favorites", so that doesn't mean much.I can't decide what to use on my team, there are too many cute choices
>>24861076
Keine is pretty fucking great. If she could keep were-hakutaku form consistently she'd by a favorite pick in my team.
>>24861092
Is her alternate costume.
>>24861092
Maybe Extra style Keine will do that. Extra Keine being Ex-Keine writes itself man.
>>24861104
If extra Keine is werehakutaku form consistently then she would fucking wreck shit. She gets such a nice speed and focus attack boost.
>>24860635
Finally someone with a fine shared taste.
>>24861132
WereKeine is my way of grinding makai. Mokou is always the first one you face with Yuki, give her a black chocker, then wreck everyone's shit,
>>24861132
She also gets a significant boost to her smugness which is by far the most important factor.
>>24861158
Alternate costume is pretty fucking A+ in my book.
>>24861158
She'll still never out smug Doremy.
Not Touhoumon but figure it's a good place to ask, sometimes when watching videos of the PC-98 gamesI only learned today that Alice stops shooting some of her bullets if you don't fire at her shield, holy fuck how did I not figure this out I'm an idiot, and the sound quality is a ton higher than in my game. I've fucked with the sound options but nothing I do causes the sound to improve to how it is in the video, are there multiple versions of the PC-98 Touhou games, or do different emulators have different types of sound?
>>24861198
More likely than not it's the emulator, some are pretty lousy ones, but games felt consistent when I plaed them.
>>24861213
Is Anex86 good? It's what I've been using but now I'm worried I'm being ZSNES-tier ignorant.
It's not that the sound is BAD, just not as good as in the videos, especially sound effects.
>>24861228
>Anex86
No idea, I never used it,sorry. Try T98-Next, it's the one I use and quite good, in my opinion.
>>24861228
Anex86 isn't very good. T98-Next is good but more demanding to run.
>>24860542
her
>>24860542
My kappafu.
>>24861405
Good, I was hoping those things would do something in the expansion.
Now it's just a matter of what exactly it is that they do.
>>24861419
Reposting because I didn't format the previous one correctly.
Found this whilst grinding up my Ringo.
>地蔵にお供え物をしますか?
("Do you want give offerings to the Kshitigarbha [Jizo] statue?")
>はい
("Yes.")
>藤原煎餅を お供えした
("A Fuji Rice Cookie was offered.")
Can't seem to interact with the Jizo statue afterwards, no matter what.
>>24861380
>Hemo can draw cute and lewd
>most of the time, he combines both
No man should have this power...
>>24861441
Keep up the good work translation anon, you're doing us all proud.
>>24861419
>>24861441
Wonder if you can do the same with the tanuki statues later.
>>24861445
Truly he is a threat to us all.
>>24861445
His pictures always make me conflicted between patting their head and telling them everything's going to be okay or just drilling them into submission until they become a slave to dicks.
Life has some real tough decisions sometimes.
>>24861451
>>24861441
Hell. I was wondering what those tanuki statues are for, creeps me out when I see em.
Hemo did this pic that gives some explanation about the puppets: mentally they are like fairies, very carefree, they also like sweet things to eat and are immune to everything but other puppets' attacks.
Also, shinki says that to make a puppet, you need to boil a fairy and use the liquid to make a puppet, but yumeko says she is lying.
>>24861470
Wakasagihime confirmed for stronger than Arceus
>>24861470
>immune to everything
STANDO DA
>>24861480
Not stronger but Arceus cannot damage them in any way.
>>24861470
By boil a fairy does she mean boil them into water, or boil them and use the water that they were in?Because couldn't you just use their bath water then?
>>24861470
Goddamn that shit is adorable as fuck, I need some non-H full cute puppet doujins from hemo.Maybe a little bit of H too.
>>24861470
I want to boil down busty fairy NPC and use her essence to make a new puppet!
>>24861470
>Puppets are immune to everything but other puppets' attacks
what if I tied a bunch of puppets together and weaved them into some kind of tank.
>>24861484
Well, if they weren't immune to everything but themselves, pic related would have just exterminate them all in cold blood.
What? they are cute and people like them? she doesn't give a shit, she only cares for the balance.
>>24861470
>You will never own a puppet
Why live?
>>24861470
what say the note in her feet?
>>24861498
Then you become a god.
>>24861513
That they escape quickly went they "faint", just like pokemans.
>>24861498
>instantly think of the Punisher panel with the bad guy with babies taped all over his body
Fucking brilliant. Just use puppets instead.
Also found this
>http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2006476?tags=gensou_ningyou_enbu
Every single solo art of the puppets on the trainer card, except for nerd girl and the lok's 2hus.
>>24861548
>http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2006476?tags=gensou_ningyou_enbu
There's a download of all the in-game files unpacked somewhere with pngs of the puppets without trainer card.
>>24861526
Make it all Doremy too, just to make people cry.
>>24861470
>Boil a fairy
That doesn't sound too good for the fairy.
>>24861470
Panel 1:
>Alice: So, about those puppets, how do you make them?
>Shinki: Wanna know?
Last Panel:
>Yumeko: It's a lie.
>Alice: Chocolate...?(She is probably referring as to how it is similar to make a handmade chocolate)
This is all my japanese can do.
>>24861470
I want a puppet to cuddle with.
>>24861670
The closest you'll get are fumos.
>>24861680
Those are too expensive though...
And Kokoro is out of stock...And Nitori doesn't have one...
>>24861684
Amiami has the cheapest selection and they occasionally restock on certain fumos.No puppets though so deal with it
>>24861636
Meh, she will revive anyway.
Any people here who raised a SeijaS? I need help on stats.
Instead of spending time to grind Ringo, I've decided to get distracted with eating and translating this, instead.
>お人形かわいいよウェヒ ウェヒヒヒヒ・・・。
("Oh, this puppet is so cute. U~ehi U~ehihihihi... .")
>ちょっと何見てるのよ!
("Hey, what are you looking at!")
>私のお人形愛でタイムを邪魔しないでくれる!?
("Can you not bother me while I'm spending time with my beloved puppet!?")
>>24861757
>flipping the bird
Does it mean she loves you?
>>24861851
Shit. They put me in the game.
please excuse my newfaggotry on the subject, but can this be played on a emulator?
I've a question for people using the excel puppetdex: does the team builder work properly? I can't be sure if it's bugged or if libre office is simply freaking out.
>>24861851
That text already exists in the main game.
>>24861896
It's a native Windows application. It'll probably run on anything newer than Windows ME, and even Linux through WINE.
>>24861470
>>24861645
Got you both covered, anons.
Panel 2:
>で捕まえた妖精を湯煎で溶かして
("Boil a caught fairy in hot water")
>湯煎!?
("Boil!?")
Panel 3:
>型に流し込んでから冷やし固めて完成!
("After you pour it into a mold and it cools down, it is finished!")
>簡単でしょー
("Wasn't that easy[?]")
>>24862096
>That text already exists in the main game.
Whoops.
>>24861757
I want an ISC where Seija bats it out with LoLK folks, just to cement her being the most powerful being in gensokyo.
>>24861905
It doesn't work for me using libre office either. I've asked but apparently no one uses the team builder.
Can anyone who uses MS excel check if it actually works for you?
>>24862143
Teambuilder works fine as far as I know. Running it on MS excel 2010.
>>24862126
I like how Raiko doesn't care at all to the point of not even shooting danmaku.
>>24861169
fuckin caved
Is there a list of post-game trainers I can rebattle?
hows the exp balance in the demo?
>>24862551
1.my mom
2.your mom
I'm retarded, I can't find the entrance to the underground.
On route 2, I know it's supposed to be here somewhere.
Please help.
Where is the game equivelent of shell bell?
>>24862694
by the rest stop.
>>24862698
Yep, %100 positively confirmed retard.
Thanks, anon.
>>24862694
go back to route 1
the other side of the pokecenter is another breakable rock
Finally posting dialogue about the Yoma Books after smoothing out my initial translation of it.
Kosuzu:
>あ Grinderさん. いらっしゃいませ!
(Ah, Player-san. Welcome!)
Note that さん can be replaced with titles such as "Mr., Ms., and Mrs." So, "Player-san" can also be interpreted as "Ms. Player."
>妖魔本を読みに来たんですか?
("Did you came by to read a Monster [Yōma/Youma] book?")
Options:
>はい (Selected)
("Yes.")
>いいえ
("No.")
Kosuzu:
>今読める妖魔本はこちらです。
("Now, here are all of the Monster [Yōma/Youma] Books we currently have for you to read.")
Options:
>人形断章 –其之壱– (未読) (Selected)
("Puppet Fragments – Book One – (unread)")
> キャンセル
"Cancel."
Book:
>どうやら幻想入りしてしまったらしい。
("It seems that they make illusions, apparently.")
Not too sure how してしまった should be. I've used "make," in the meantime.
>このままでは帰わないと教えてもらった。
("Truthfully, the current situation always seems to happen.")
>この人形の騒動をどうにかしないといけないみたいだ。
Really need an anon for help on this one.
("This puppet of mine throws tantrums one way or another in public whenever it's not appropriate.")
OR
("This puppet of mine throws fits that resembles batting [with a shinai]."
>とりあえず 人間の里に向かうといいと教えてもらったので 行ってみようと思う。
("For now, Human Village is going to be fine to be honest, because they're continuing to believe so.")
Kosuzu:
>これは 誰かの日記みたいですね。
("Hey, doesn't this seems to be like someone's diary[?]")
> 人形の騒動とも書かれていますし 今幻想郷で起きている騒動と関係しそうな気がします。
("The troublesome puppet seems to draw a connection to Gensokyo's
current problems with the barrier.")
>それにしても 幻想入りとはどういう意味なんでしょう?
("But, I wonder what did it mean by "illusion?")
>また読またくなったら いつでも話しかけてくださいね!
("Please speak to me whenever you want to read again!")
>>24862721
I've just realized that there's a good chance that I've messed up the translation for the book portion of the dialogue, and I should get some sleep.
Will attempt to re-translate and continue grinding after I wake up.
>tfw no post-game way to make the grind for a fresh team of perfect puppets easier
>>24862782
What about all those rematches, Letty Red and the upgrade E3?
>>24863217
I barely made it through them, I got no one to grind them quick with.
>>24861089
I don't know, Reimu absolutely wrecked my shit the first two fights but Remilia was really easy.
>>24863338
I bet it was because of Aya.
>>24863403
Mostly the fact that I didn't have anything good against fighting types. I had to get my own Aya to win.
>>24863228
Doing everyone in post game, with Suwako being one of the first gave me enough XP to do at least Yuki, that should help you out. Start out with the ones that use SuikaP, it's gimmicky, but you can just alternate barrier option and a boosting move and easily wreck anyone who uses her.
>>24863338
Reimu's actually got a diverse and competent team where the Remi fight is pretty much either it's literally impossible if you don't have the right tools / levels or it's a complete joke if you do.
If you're underleveled / have shit team diversity it's not hard for the Remi puppet to just instantly gib anyone that comes in and you never even get a chance to fight back, but anything that can survive a hit or go faster than her is likely going to oneshot her.
>>24863706
Well, it's supposed to be related to the characters. The best fight in the game is Seiga by far.
>>24863866
Not saying it's a bad fight, just that there are a lot of people who hear about Remi being a wall of pure fuckforce but then suddenly it's ezpz steamroll for them, so I felt like explaining why.
>>24861851
>ウェヒヒヒヒ
That sounds like Madoka's cute laughter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwjQpkGcUX4
>>24861757
I don't have a SeijasS.
But from what I can see, maxing out FoAtk and Speed would be the best thing for her. As for skills, Cross Drive and Arclight synergize well with the Unjustness ability.
At first i thought the reason makai puppets are all over gensokyo is because there is no makai and the maker still wanted the puppets in the game.
Now i realize the reason is because this incident is basically another makai invasion.
does charge affects 'high crit ratio'?
>>24864078
It shouldn't, no. Crit rate stays the same and no bonus damage from charge unless it has another effect that gets negated.
That's how sheer force works in Pokemon anyways and charge should be a direct copy of it.
>>24864105
I see, thank you.
>>24859172
>Speed Aya was banned
>now Power Aya is going to get banned
W H Y
>>24864378
How are they gonna ban P Aya? Will they hack into everyone's computer and disable her from the game?
>>24864378
>implying puppet players will do the ban bullshit.
>>24864603
But the health of the metagame is at risk
>>24864677
Nobody's banning anything, it was a joke from the last thread.
It's not like AyaP is some uncounterable supergod or anything anyways, she just needs to be kept under control.
>>24864677
What is the metagame anyways
>>24864677
The metagame so far is "use your favorite 2hu at best of her ability", all them are viable, except renko.
>>24864688
Using your favorites.
>>24864688
Pick your favorites and make them as good as possible.You wouldn't have favorites that aren't good, would you anon? Surely you have better tastes than that.
is this game speed based like pkmn?
should I make all my 2hus S style and be hated?
>>24864713
Yes, no.
Speed style doesn't always directly translate into more speed and more speed doesn't always mean it's better.
EG: AyaP is faster than UtsuhoS and UtsuhoS is better (Or at least used more).
>>24864726
So I shouldn't be pushing speed over everything else, makes sense.
I started this recently and can't decide if Suwako S/D and Remi P/Syeah I know, my taste is shit but I would the frog
>>24864756
Speed is still often an extremely important stat, especially when the meta of the game is generally just "Kill them before they kill you" right now, but there are many situations where having something that doesn't die in one hit is what you need to get a kill instead of just being faster than them and likewise you'll need a slow but heavy hitter to deal with their tankier units and so on and so forth.
The frog goes speed, Ojou-sama goes power in terms of what's objectively best in a vacuum, but sometimes you gotta make some sub-optimal decisions to round out your team if you're using favorites.
>>24864770
Thanks a lot m8, will have all that on account, Remi hooked me into Touhou like 4 years ago with pic related, is a must for me
>>24864802
You've come to the right game anon, put all the cuteness to good use.
Ringo's Learnset:
Start - Yin Energy, Reinforce Bulwark
Lv 7 - Apple Bomb
Lv 10 - Thunder Veil
Lv 14 - Drain Seed
Lv 19 - Hornet's Dance
Should be able to send out two learnsets in about an hour from now.
>>24864693
Even Renko has a viable use if you want to make a Genbu team; double duration on the move is a godsend.
>>24864880
How come you don't just hack the level to 100 or the like?
>>24864814
>you will never be verbally abused for having shit naming sense
Why even live anon?
>>24865078
Don't worry, not being abused is another form of abuse.
>>24864887
A reminder that even SukunaD is larger than the actual Sukuna.
How can something so small be so adorable
>>24864880
Comp crash; will take about 20 mins to get a particular puppet back up to level 19.
Have this picture as compensation.
>>24864887
Too lazy to mess with the .sav file and CE.
I do I, a foolish mac user, get this shit to work
>>24865738
I think your SOL.
Finally finished up these two learnsets after breaking my vow of not getting distracted several times.
Hecatia's Learnset:
Start - Yin Energy, Favorable Wind
Lv 7 - Stone Rain
Lv 10 - Invisible Heart
Lv 14 - Retaliation
Lv 19 - Sun's Protection
Junko's Learnset:
Start - Yin Energy, Reinforce Bulwark
Lv 7 - Light Up
Lv 10 - Retaliation
Lv 14 - 時の螺旋 (Spiral of Time)
Type: Chaos
BP: 60
Atk: Focus
Acc: --
SP: 20
Priority: 0
種別 (Variant): EN (Energy)
Description:
Attack will always hit
Lv 19 - フィールドシフト (Field Shift)
Type: Chaos
BP: --
Atk: Status
Acc: --
SP: 10
Priority: 4
種別 (Variant): None
Description:
>相手の バリアオプションや 壁を 自分の場に移動させる
("Steals the enemy's Barrier and Wall for your party/field.")
Basically allows your puppet to steal an enemy's Field Barrier (Light Screen) and/or Field Protect (Reflect), if the enemy currently has any of those Fields up.
>>24865738
Use Wine.
>>24865911
I remember seeing someone say they got it working on mac with Wine or something but I don't have even the faintest idea of how to do it myself so I can't offer any help to the guy.
>>24864887
Renko only does double duration? I thought I read she makes it permanent? On that note, is there a puppet that can keep terrain effects longer than average?
>>24865918
Screenshot of "Spiral of Time," for those who are curious.
>>24865918
Have you discovered anything that interacts with the BU / EN stats yet?
I'm sure it's just going to function like contact / no contact in Pokemon which isn't too exciting, but I may be wrong.
>>24865946
BU - Physical/Contact
EN - Special/No-Contact
>>24865943
Godammit; forgot to move main game out of the way.
>>24865943
The fact that Junko is so happy freaks me out, she is pure anger.
>>24865936
Assist Renko actually just adds +3 to the duration of Terrain skills, including Genbu/Trick Room, Suzaku, Seiryuu, and Byakko.
Speed Renko makes Weather (Fog, Aurora, Sandstorm, Calm) permanent.
>>24865966
Puppets are made of happiness.
>>24865966
She's happy about being angry.
>>24866001
You mean she is so mad that she has gone full circle and become happy, even thought she is still mad?
>>24865968
Well shit I guess permanent Byakko terrain was too much to ask for.
This is a pretty fun game.
Though it confuses me why Gengetsu isn't dream type, given she's some sort of dream demon.
>>24866020
Because Dream type will only get introduced next expansion patch.
>>24866020
Probably just because the type didn't exist as an actual type outside of the two starter moves in the base game, odds are there'll be a decent numbers of 2hus getting it in their new extra styles.
>>24866020
How do you people manage dark puppets? They're weak as shit to many types and often partnered with another element which makes them weaker to more types. I really love my KagerouP but she's fucking made out of paper and is just weight to team.
>>24866056
Easy, I don't.
>>24866056
There's not really any managing to be done, I think there might not even be any dark puppets in the top 50 on the JP usage chart and if there are it's very limited and they're not unique in what they do.
It's not so abysmal as to stop me from using my favorites that have it on them though, Remi is still pretty solid.
>>24866031
Ah, I thought it was the equivalent of dragon type, where only a tiny, tiny percentage of puppets get it.
I'll await the english version of the expansion pack then.
>>24866056
Sekibanki hasn't been too terrible for me so far, but I haven't played competitive or anything. (haven't even finished main game)
>>24866085
She also has the best alternate look.
>>24866056
I don't know, Rumia's been doing pretty good for me so far.
Android version when?
>>24866172
Never, unless someone mods the game for it.
>>24866221
Suwako is a hat, the body is just some random assfaggot that carries it around.
My shitty team just after beat Remilia, her Flandre puppet was no joke.
>>24866226
No, the hat took over that loli's body.
>>24866253
Living the dream.
>>24866253
I saw 4komas where the hat evolves into a muscular JJBA like creature.
>>24866282
Most I remember are of Suwako and the hat being separate beings, so the hat itself eats and other sort of shit.
>>24866250
Why only 4 puppets?
Wakasagi is a very gentle girl!
>>24866302
Not him, but there's no point filling up your team early if the puppets you want are later in the game.
>>24866311
There is I think. Its called taking a hit while your favorite puppets heal up.
>>24866311
I literally sealed the first 4 puppets that appear + my waifu + Sekibanki at the Human village and beat the game with them, couldn't have done it without girls, the last fight is sick
