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/tpdp/ PDP General: You will be freezed by Letty Redrock Edition
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In the deepest part of a mysterious cave, through slippery floors that will make your puppets dance, there's a fat woman that waits for a fated performance.

>What is PDP?
A Pokémon/Touhou fangame, the style can looks like the old touhoumon hacks, but this one is quite different, it has many new features (animated battle sprites, customization of puppets, easy system to distribute EVs and relearn skills anytime, Reincarnation, unique map, HMs are key items, etc...). You can also make online matches.

>Give me the download link.
Here is: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ynnmmo4k9noe0cr/%E5%B9%BB%E6%83%B3%E4%BA%BA%E5%BD%A2%E6%BC%94%E8%88%9E.rar

Even though the game is translated to english, you will need the Locale Emulator too, or the numbers will be messed up (Applocale will not work):
https://mega.nz/#!q0lixKqI!n07oANzavBNSgGwWtm5Ezyuf9B0ifT36yi6Vmyi3kjo


If you don't get to make connections in the normal way, try Hamachi, here's some rooms:
PDP Arena 01 / PDP Arena 02 / PDP Arena 03 [All the passwords are 123]
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Can you fight Miko yet?
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>>24839520
This guy again. Postgame stuff. What is there to do/what new areas are there if any? I'm still looking around, but can't find much. Wiki's off again, too.

>>24839556
Have you guys tried Tunngle instead of Hamachi? Or even Evolve? Fuckin', anything's better than Hamachi.
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>>24839583
you can go to the ice cave in the middle of the misty lake!
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>>24839586
Nice, I like it. Anything else? Also, for reincarnation, I'd assume I can savescum that shit? Getting perfect S 'hus seems like it would be a huge pain, but I can deal.
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>>24839583
I just got used to Hamachi, it does the job for me, but to each his own.
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>>24839600
I guess you can savescum if you want.
I cant think of anything else im just getting to postgame myself. trying to farm up some magical shards
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>>24839583
in the postgame yu can rebattle bunch of tohos and do kasen quest.
kasen quest is recmended before reincarnations, and reincarnations are recomended before pvp.
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best place to get magical fragments...?
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Is there a working dex?
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>>24839814
Are you serious? Just kill whatever puppets you encounter.
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Here's a question: Speed or Power Yorihime? I tried Power before and reincarnated to get better stats, now I'm considering trying Speed. No idea if it's good though.
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>>24839939
Speed.
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>>24839952
Thanks. Is Shinki any good, by the way? I caught one earlier, don't know if I should fit it into my team or not.
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>>24839583
You could try not being technologically inept and just figuring out ports. That might work.
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spooky
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>>24839814

kill level 21+ puppets most of them have increased chances to drop fragments
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>not all puppets can learn sleep talk
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>>24839579
No until the expansion, she even gets a new protrait with bishie sparkles around her (her? Maybe now, but before...)
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Well I found a Sariel less than 5 minutes into Hakurei Cave. The problem is well this.
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>>24840497
wild puppets have shit stats
more news at 11
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>>24840500
I found a few wilds with almost perfect stats for their roles.
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>>24840497
I don't get it, she looks Flawless to me :^)
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>>24840503
B+ in your desired stat isnt good anon
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>>24840514
>B+
I'm talking A+ and S anon.
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>>24840518
im not your anon Anonymous
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>>24840497
Play for literally two more hours and you can start selectively reincarnating S ranks to use to make perfect teams.
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Next time wait til the old thread is on page 10, it's still up and on page 9 as of this post.
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Ughhhh.... now i got both the boat and the gap, i know i should go kill stuff at the forest but i fucking hate the place. isn't there a map somewhere so i could limit my time there to as little as possible?
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>>24840681
yes casualshiters.gov.com
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It took them long enough to have actually challenging fights. More fights need to be like Shinki.
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>>24840688
oh come on
other places have a porpuse
the forest is nothing but a big maze with a few items that isn't relevant to the plot after you meet alice, a few hours prior
forcing myself to go there really takes the wind of my sails, but thinking of the loot im leaving behind don't let me just leave it be.

you know what, screw it. ill just go route 2 like im soppused to. is not like im underleveled or something.
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>>24839556
>Letty is Red
At least she talks.
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>>24840698
they should remove exp share. it makes all enemies underleveled. even without grinding.
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>TPDP wiki is down

Anyone knows any alternative places to view Patchouli's skills and abilities for form change?
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>>24840712
discover it by yourelf
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>>24840720
I Like to plan out my teams in advance
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>>24840712
yes, the game itself.

what, you don't carry any rare cadny you find?
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anyone up for online ? or you re now making teams
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I think I'll just leave post game and everything else for the Expansion.
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isn't there like a place that constantly hosts online battles? what does pooshlmer have to say in the subject?
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>>24840712
She can change to Wisdom Eye as Defense, not sure about Power. Also, Power is Fire/Water and Defense is Electric/Nature.
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How would a Smogonite handle the metagame here
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>>24840735
>pooshlmer
im on page 10. i have seen threads from 2012, but i have yet to see one about tpdp.

>>24840827
bitch about no stall while not previously trying all the options.
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>>24840827
Stalling is impossible.
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>>24840050
It's supposed to be sad though. Also, you can reenter rooms to fight the sisters.
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>>24840840
>implying that you can kill stall ever
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>>24840706

They should actually balance the fucking game. Until you get the experience share, normal enemies were fine but bosses had 8-10 levels over you. With it, enemies are underleveled but bosses actually have normal levels.
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>>24841044
dude
exp share is ingame mechanic
you must be thinking about lucky egg
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>>24841036
You want to stall? Just fucking abuse evasion.

Seriously, why aren't you just using Camoflauge on your OrangeD? There's no evasion clause, you can go to +6 Evasion after just 3 turns, and back it up with Barrier Option + First Aid Treatment to ensure that nothing ever actually kills you before whichever status effect you've chosen to inflict has killed your opponent.

Enjoy losing!
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>>24841077

You're right, I'm an idiot. Still, the level scaling in the game is horrible.
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>>24841089

Yeah it's pretty awful and about the only real complaint I have for the game.

Here's to hoping the expansion fixes it.

>>24840712

http://www.mediafire.com/download/qmffs6x1429z7cu/tpdp+PuppetDex+1.8.xlsx

Can use this if you want, need to download it and open it up in a proper spreadsheet viewer, doesn't work in browser.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS5N0_paQME
>That happy Mima.
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>>24841111
So Junko and CP are joining the happiest puppets club? Maybe now I can make a team full of them.
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>>24841131
who are the other 4?
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>>24841131
Daily reminder that Junko's smile actually is of pure anger.
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>>24841137
I'm guessing Yuyuko and Wakasagihime. Dont know the other two.
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>>24841086
Switch in a Touhou that's immune to the poison status effect (for an example SakuyaP) and just wait for OrangeD to run out of SP or switch out. Or use Squall (equivalent to Whirlwind from Pokemon, which is a skill card with very good availability). Or use Upbeat (equivalent to Taunt from Pokemon, except here it's a skill card that anyone capable of using skill cards can learn).

Camouflage spamming OrangeD is an annoying gimmick, but it's not a very effective gimmick.

Actually that sums up stall teams in general: They're annoying and not fun to play against, but they're easy to beat up in the end because "annoy" is all they're good at.
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>>24841166

There's also a steel focus skill that has 100% accuracy and ignores evasion which would shred the evasion strategy instantly.
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>>24841166
Doesn't OrangeD get a Seismic Toss equivalent? That would probably be more effective than manually toxic stalling, you could even add a Poison trapper as a second member.
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>>24841137
Yuyuko and Waggysaggy are the best, but Komachi and Futo seem pretty happy too, as well as Yoshika and maybe Suika, but this one is drunk.
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>>24841180
Chrome Ray is a special attack actually, but it ignores all status changes period and is a skill card move so it's pretty available.

>>24841187
That actually would be much more effective than toxic, but the point is there are too many ways to render the strategy meaningless that it's not all that effective.

Besides, all you have to do against a stall team to beat it is to just quit out of the match and look for someone else to play against who isn't so boring. You can use trapping moves to keep a puppet trapped in battle against your wall, but you can't use them to keep an opponent trapped in battle against your boring stall team.

Stall being dead is a good game design element here that Pokemon sorely needs. Yes, I went there.
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>>24841214

Not even the skill I was thinking of, as always there's a bunch of different ways to shit on stall in this.

If the wiki were up I could name it but it's not coming to mind and I don't like the spreadsheet.

I believe one of Miko's forms has it? Armor Piercing or something like that?
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>>24841222
Armor Piercing is only a 10% chance to flinch. Sword of Reversal is guaranteed to hit, but it's only BP 60 and thus isn't very useful
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>>24841237

Yep that's what it was, Sword of Reversal.

Yeah it's not always viable but it was worth bringing up in response to the Orange strategy since Orange has nonexistent focus defense so she'd still go down a hell of a lot quicker than she could kill you.
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>750000 players
>nobody hosts
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>>24841257
2hu is dead
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>>24841257
God, the fact you have to know a IP to play against somebody basically kills a competitive metagame.
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>>24841302
In Pokémon you also need to trade Friend Codes to play against somebody specific, it's not so different. Hisoutensoku (the fighting game Th12.3) also needs to trade IPs, but it had a good player base for a long time.

But yeah, I think that if the game had a system of hosting rooms where you could connect with strangers, it certainly would be more intuitive.
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>>24841257
you host.
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>>24841257
>>24841302
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/
channel: #TPDP

I would recommend the IRC, is more easy to get matches there.
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>>24841257
6v6 Basic
189.138.47.79:10800
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>>24841486
Man, RNG fucking hates you.
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>>24841486
gg
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>>24841486
Good Games
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>>24839556
>General
What the fuck are you guys doing?
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So is this game biased towards special attacks like regular Pokemon is (i.e. generally higher power special attacks than physical attacks with few exceptions, the very high power ones being much more widespread, not having to worry about burn anywhere near as much)?
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>>24841632

Dealing with some guy that forced out a new thread 10+ hours earlier than needed so he could be the OP and say what he wanted.
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>>24841636
in my view it seems fairly even with a nod towards physical
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>>24841636
Power drop statuses exist for both ends of the attacking spectrum.

Though I'm not sure where this question even comes from, because even with burn being prominent, physical attackers are far stronger on the whole than special attackers in pokemon, lol.
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>>24841636
actually, here burn is just fire type poison. it doesn't lower phys attack.
there is a status that lower phys attack- blind- but there is also one that lower sp atk- fear.
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>>24841696
Are those status worth applying? I'm wondering whether to use behind you or not.
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>>24841704
Well you can stack certain ailments in this game so why not.
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>Main game
>Piss easy with the exception of two fights
>Get to post game
>Try a random rematch
>Suddenly everything's hyper competent and properly decked out

What? Where did this come from?
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>>24841723
which 2 fights anon? i had troubles at most boss fights when i fuoght with equally leveled mons
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>>24841723
They were just being nice, having a little fun.
Now that they know you're competent they don't need to hold back.
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>>24841734
The last two because I didn't really know the types of the PC-98 2hus so I had to play a guessing game.
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>>24841723

Yep, the difficulty balance during the story is pretty wack. With the exception of Shinki and maybe the Remi / Reimu combo everything is really tame, which is hopefully something the expansion will fix.

The post-game fights are pretty much when the game finally decides to actually start throwing competent trainers at you and attacking weaknesses instead of using random skills.
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>>24841748
I'm fairly certain that the AI is set up to choose the move that deals the most damage.

It's just that most of the time either the opponent doesn't have a diverse attacking pool or, more commonly, they get blown the fuck up before they can do anything.
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>>24841771

You may be right, I can't say the AI ever got much time to show what its capable of until I got to the E4 / postgame.
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Good joke, patche
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>>24841782
It coudl always be worse.
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>>24841791
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>>24841791
the joke is, patche is canonly physiclyy inept, and this doll got s at hp and atk and a red mark.
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>>24841782
>>24841791
>>24841811

None of you know what true suffering is. I would have taken anything that had a C or better in spread attack and speed.
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>>24841813
In Genius of Sappheiros she hits like a truck physically and magically for some reason.
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>>24841814
You have three Flans, faggot, you know how long that takes? I only have a single one.
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>>24841748
Yeah the balance is like this:

Early game is difficult, drops a bit after team 9, spikes up hard for bamboo forest, has a huge spike at Remilia, spikes up for Reimu, then drops off a cliff for a huge chunk, spikes back up at Byakuren, keeps spiking for the major boss fights from there on out, goes skyward for Pandemonium, and then just flies into literal space (alongside the battlefield) for Shinki.

Then post-game curbstomps you into the ground if you don't prepare for it. "Oh look it's Letty sh-OH GOD MY EVERYTHING"
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>>24841834

Yes, yes trust me I assure you I know full well how long it takes, I can guarantee you that.
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>there's no skillcard for this game's equivalent flamethrower and surf/ice beam
>there's still one for thunderbolt

Literally why
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Are there any fast and hard-hitting nether types? Basically a puppet version of Gengar?
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>>24841887
what about seiga?
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>>24841895
Only base 100 special attack.
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>>24841887
YoumuS, RinP, and KanaP if you count up tempo.

As far as I know there isn't a perfectly analogous representation.
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>>24841838
How lucky was I to encounter one while getting to Remilia?
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>>24841973

3.33% encounter rate, if you traveled the whole way without repel then it's not too unusual to run into one along the way, especially if you get lost.

It's only a pain in the ass if you're actively trying to get one when you normally just mash out repels in any cave / dungeon area.
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>>24841723
You can still beat just about everything with a Power Aya.
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>>24841887
Nether is more like Dragon
Illusion would be more like Ghost
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>>24842036
Oh.

Nether version of one of the many many overpowered dragons in Pokemon then?
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>>24842057
this game doesn't have pseudo-legendaries or legendaries, so that doesn't really apply.

Closest would be MimaP, I guess.
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>>24842057

doesn't exist, very few touhous have over 600 base stats, there is no real analog to any of the dragon types that wouldn't have much lower stats, a worse typing or worse moves.

an example is power ran, her stat spread and abilities make her a moxie salamence but she is still 10 - 30 points lower in various areas then salamence and her typing is not as good as dragon.
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is there a dex somewhere?
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>>24842120

an ingame pokedex? nope, the only thing is the puppet book and it sure as hell doesn't tell you were to find puppets you have seen
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>>24842057
Nope.

Basically every good dragon is BST 600; the only BST 600 in this game is Shinki, who's only good in one of her two stances anyways.

Nether is offensively on par with Dragon pre-Gen 6 but there aren't any Nether types with a high attack stat (i.e. 120+) and high speed (i.e. 100+), and if they did the defenses would suffer as a result.

Face it, there's no way to just spam a single type like you could Dragons in Gen 5 and win everything forever
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Holy crap the Puppet Book is useless. I mean, it won't even tell me where puppet's I've seen are.
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>>24842177
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>>24842189
That helps with the Wiki down thanks.

Though, why on earth a feature that was in RBY isn't in this I don't know.
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>>24842157
You have not yet dealt with MimaP then. Base 135 ATK, only one weakness to Dark, gets Curse Return (aka Magic Bounce) to fuck stall over even harder than it already has been, gets Curse Reversal (AKA Pain Split) to cripple high HP puppets and heal yourself...

Pair up with ShinkiS for maximum rage, since with Dark Clothing ShinkiS is immune to MimaP's one weakness. Only issue is MimaP is neutral to ShinkiS's one weakness rather than resistant, but you could always cram in ReimuD to stop Illusion moves flat. Congrats, there's a trio of things that share 0 weaknesses and cover for each other's one singular weakness, all of which are very good!
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Are Puppets other then sweepers even possible?

I'm not even thinking about stall. But simple things like setting up hazards, support Puppets, and defensive pivots.
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>>24842350

In terms of netplay it's mostly just sweepers, setup sweepers and bulky offense.

Defensive / supportive play in general isn't useless (Only full on stalling is unviable) but as of right now everything generally revolves around offense, with anything not directly killing your opponent serving only to make it easier to kill them in the next turn or two.
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>>24842350
Hazard set up is not a good idea because Smash Spin is learnt by basically everything, but support is definitely viable (KoishiA and EirinD say hello) and defensive pivots are dominant (the #2 in the weekly usage charts is MamizouD).

Even actual walls are usable (OrangeD is good just because she can stop most special attackers flat, even if she can't do that much back in return).

The only thing that legit doesn't work at all is stall because stall teams are the worst part of regular Pokemon competitive
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>>24842350
If I recall, there's a Sticky Web-like move, it'd probably be worth getting a support mon for that.
In the end it's just another tool for sweeping, though, like >>24842360 is saying.
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>>24842274

none of those things you listed have over 100 base speed, exceptional defenses and still have many things that can hit them for neutral damage.
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>>24842379
Yeah, a Choice Specs NitoriS would just blow them all away with Water Cannon. Or Choice Band AyaP with Twister. And 2/3 of those are physical threats that would basically get destroyed by SukunaD.
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My habit of autistically checking every fucking rock I come across pays off.
This is the proudest moment of my life.
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>>24841850
Actually, you can buy the equivalent skill cards in the underground, they're all [type] spear.
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>>24842481

Those are only 75 power skills, the ones he was talking about are all 90 power 100 accuracy.

And just for clarification they're [Type] Javelin instead of Spear.
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>>24842564
Oh, whoops. I guess that shows how much I know about pokemon. I thought that those types of moves were 75 power.
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>>24842613

Yeah I don't know half the shit that gets said in this thread either but just googling "Pokemon [Skill/ability/pokemon]" always pulls up a wiki that explains what it is and then you can match it to the appropriate copy in TPDP.
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>>24842564
Actually the top-end special attacks here are mostly NOT running on Gen 6 stats (i.e. when Game Freak decided special attacks were too good and nerfed almost every single one); they're still BP 95
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>>24842654

Ah, I see, good to know, I'm not overly well versed in Pokemon either.
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>>24842480
I hope you've been checking cabinets, dressers, and trash cans too
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>>24842698
At first I even checked suspiciously empty spots in tall grass, but I've never found anything like that so I stopped doing that.
I do still sweep every room for cabinets and such, yes.
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Why are there no stat boosting moves in skill cards

Why are there so few setup sweepers
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Would you believe me if I said I just beat Remi with this team?
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>>24843116
>Alice
yeah
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>>24843116

Yep, definitely. Remi's fight is either an unbreakable wall or an absolute pushover depending on whether you have the right tools.

If you have someone that can either outspeed or survive a hit from Remi she usually goes down in one shot, the only problem is that it's not hard to fail to meet either of those requirements so early in the game and she just out-speeds and oneshots everyone that comes in.
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>>24840497
NOT
>>24841782
NICKNAMING
>>24841791
YOUR
>>24841814
WAIFU
>>24843116
TRULY EBIN
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>>24843410

>Telling your waifu that she's imperfect and needs a better name

Absolutely disgusting.
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>>24843116
If you have a steel type that either has priority or can take a hit, you can beat her.
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>>24843410
>Not liking your waifu's name
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Mystia starts with the equivalent of Nasty Plot.

On to my in game team she goes.
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Where's Suwako? I'm already in post game and I don't see her anywhere in Moriya Shrine.
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>>24843586
In the middle of the lake.
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>>24843592
Any special requirements?
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>>24843597
Buly Saynay
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>>24843597
First defeat postgame sanae (even as a chibi, look at those boobs)
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>>24843410
The only acceptable nicknames are Okuu/Orin, Patchy/Remi or playing with names and surnames if you pick tiny2hu or the captain.
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>>24843606
>>24843601
That's weird, I already beat up Sanae, but she's not there.
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>>24843666
I think you have to meet Kasen before Suwako will show up for some reason.
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>>24843678
That's probably it. I don't know where to look for Kasen.
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>>24843687
Go to the rest stop on the east side of Youkai Mountain, and head west until you reach a foggy valley.
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Does anyone have that image with all of the wedding dress sprites? I need to see what Rinnosuke looks like.
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>>24843746
say no more
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>>24843752
>tux
Boo
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>>24843765
Well, what the fuck you expected?
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>>24843752
Rika and Unzan are the best in this.
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>>24843752
I want to drum with Raiko during the wedding.
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>>24843752
I'm losing my mind at YuugenMagan
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>>24843752
>Nitori doesnt' have her backpack anymore

I can't tell if this ruins her or not.
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>>24843838

At least it means she gets new animations.
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>>24843678
When you beat Suwako she says something about Kasen's quest. I imagine that's why.
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>>24839556
Who draw this?
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>>24844106
OP here, I drawed it, together with the last thread pic.
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Mokou looks nice.
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>>24844559
>>24844106
Who is the artist of these?
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Ok I think I've played too much, I dreamt that my Pokemon team in Ubers got swept by Touhous against all logic and reason
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>>24844666

>Not dreaming about your TPDP team sweeping ubers

Clearly you haven't played enough yet.
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>>24844637
The same of the chibi ones from the game.

>>24844666
Satanic trips confirms, this dream is something more.
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>>24844666
Before you ask, no I don't remember most of it. I do remember Darkrai dying to RaikoP thanks to Active stopping Dark Void (which I assume it wouldn't), and Arceus getting taken down by WakasagiS.
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>>24844731
>Arceus
>dying to the spoiler

Details. Now.
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>no adult Rumia costume option
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>>24845367
>wanting to use some old lady
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>>24845355
So my Blissey is staring down WakasagiS; I was dumb enough to not have run Snatch on her and leaving her out would mean WakasagiS would be free to set up on her with Brave Song, so I decided to switch out to Arceus and rip her apart with Extreme Speed.

She used Cold Rain and got the 10% Stop chance.

I try to use Extreme Speed and don't break free. She uses Brave Song.

I try to use Extreme Speed again and still don't break free. She uses Ultra-High Tone, crits and takes Arceus down, and gets a speed boost from using the move.

The rest of my team is sweeped from that point onward. Bonus points for her getting the 10% Stop chance to hit on Blissey and then using Brave Song two more times to mock me. My team of bullshit legendaries and supreme walls was torn apart by a BST 480 puppet.

I have failed at competitive battling in my own dreams
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>>24845439
that dream is a massage from your subconsious anon. it tells you that playing touhou would be more fun than playing pokemon.
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>>24843410
None of them are my waifus.
>>24843448
>>24843137
It was a combination of Steel Trap halving Remi's HP and Patchouli criting with Moonbow, which was her only attack, so I just lucked out.
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>>24845439
Your subconscious is trying to tell you that you are in love with Wakasagihime.

Make a competitive one now and embrace the fragile sweeper

I'd post her ingame sprite but I don't have it on me
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>>24845478
Here ya go.
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>electric/light typing
>disturber ability (reduce spa if ressit hit)
>power magnetism move(makes next e attack electric)
oh chiyuri, you so funny.
to bad i still carry a dislike towards you from the touhoumon days.
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>grinding in SDM
>find two Flandres in the space of three encounters
>'That's pretty good. Stats are gonna be shit though.'
>check stats
>mfw
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>>24845942
2/2
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>>24845945
its undoubtly your lucky day man. go fill a lottery ticket.
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>>24845945
i got better stats, but it was on a wriggle- and who wants to train a fucking wriggle? she's not even a real girl.
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>>24845967
I plan to use any puppets with S ranks in reincarnation. More useful than leaving them there.
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Is this a decent set for a bulky-attacker Murasa? Does she learn any useful recovery moves or stronger STAB attacks later?
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>>24846040
more like crappy lamoa
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>>24845967
>>24845945
>>24845942
>>24845715
>wow look at my shitmons
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>>24846081
>flandre
>shitmon
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>>24846084
>any puppet
>good
lmaoing @ 1000 rank shitters
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>>24844666
Actually, it makes sense, puppets can only be damage by other puppets, pokemons and 2hus cannot do a shit to them.
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>>24846084
>Not posting the vid version
Anon pls.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LnhOWkniX4
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>>24845489
That thing killed the Pokemon equivalent of God.

Run.
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Is there a type matchup chart somewhere?
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>>24846389
She was the artist and main programmer favorite, but them pic related appeared (that is honey), i bet my ass she will be OP in the expansion.
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>>24846448
http://i.imgur.com/FJvVPWq.png

That being said, I'm in need of knowing what types everything is, I can't remember that shit.
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>>24846458
Entrance animations tell type dude
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>>24846474
both of the types? Or is my colourblindness fucking me up.
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>>24846477

No, just the primary type.

It undoubtedly helps a lot but there are still tons of situations where "Oh, it played the water effect when she came in, time for an electric attack!" and then it hits neutral for half her health and she kills my puppet.
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>>24846457
>That feel when Hecatia is my favorite newhu
>She has one very dedicated artist
Nothing better than knowing someone else loves the same thing you do.
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>>24846517
Is just matter of time for him to do a lewd doujn of her, the only lewd doujin he has done so far is of Wakasagihime.
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>>24846538
>Triple Selfcest Hecatia
>Triple Hecatia x milf Junko
>Triple gangrape
>Triple vanilla
>Triple fendom
Imagine the possibilities.
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>>24846552

Hemo is vanilla as fuck which is by far a best so don't get your hopes up too much.

It's probably going to be full cutemax which is much better than going pure slutforce.
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>>24846561
consensual sex is only for sluts. Rape doujins for life.
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>>24846561
Well, that's a shame. I was hoping for Hecatia x Junko. Vanilla is okay too I guess.
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>>24846570
>yuri can't be vanilla
Anon, what?
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>>24846577
It can be of course, but in the context of the conversation I'm assuming normal sexual relationship between a male and a female for the purpose of procreation with the lights turned off on a fluffy king-sized bed with cuddling afterwards.
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>>24846583

Oh, nah, not quite that vanilla.

Most of it is definitely consensual dicking for the purpose of expressing love but the Waggysaggy but he's done some yuri pics and the Waggysaggy doujin started off forced until she ended up building a soccer team with the tentacle monster.

There's likely never going to be anything involving the girl not being happy with it though, and not in a I've-become-a-slave-to-dicks way.
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>>24846588

Christ I fucked that up.

*Most of it is definitely consensual dicking for the purpose of expressing love but he's done some yuri pics and the Waggysaggy doujin started off forced until she ended up building a soccer team with the tentacle monster.
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>>24846588
>ended up building a soccer team with the tentacle monster
where do i read this
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>>24846602

http://exhentai.org/g/691311/26ec037d57/
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>>24846604
people still using sadpanda? why? there are many more h-sites out there, who are more open for who uses them.
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>>24846040

is that power murasa? you should get A Hand in Adversity, when hit with a status effect her stream form ability
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Power or Speed Flandre?
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>>24846629
Such as? Sad Panda fucked up when they got rid of a ton of artists, but I'm far too used to its interface(and image search options) to search for something else.
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>>24846798

huh it cut off the rest of my post there but with murasa her stream form ability makes it a 270 power move and she also has dragon dance to boost her lowish speed
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>>24846802
>such as
any site where you don't need to google how to access it.
http://www.perveden.com/en/
http://hentai2read.com/
http://www.guromanga.com/
etc
just search the name of your doujin in your fav search engine.
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>>24846835
>http://www.GUROmanga.com/
Oh you fuck, i am not going there
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>>24846921
It's alright, it doesn't plaster guro all over the screen as soon as the page loads.
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>>24846800

Power is more used in netplay, all she's good for is doing loadsa damage to anything slower than her before she inevitably gets one shot.
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I wish I had a Doremy puppet irl to give me good dreams
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>>24847141
I wish I could have a nicehead yukkuri pet so I could take it easy with her.
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I'm sick of competitive Pokemon.

How's the meta in this game? What playstyles are viable and which aren't? Is there anything besides singles? How's the balance? What Pokemon/2hu equivalents exist? Is my favorite 2hu good? Pic related.
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>>24847254
Stall is dead, most things are viable in some way, but I think bulky offense is most common.
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>>24847254
Stall and most of its tools are is shit, though you may find a use for miasma(toxic), most people either go full offensive or bulk offensive, more finding the later to be the best, some setup characters can work too. No doubles, but singles can be ither 3v3 or 6v6.
Balance is okay, there are some blatantly OP ones, and only a select few are definetly shit, moody and evasaion are unbanned, so that might make you salty.
Not many direct equivalents around, besides the mandatory Shedinja,Wobuffet and similar gimmick ones.
Meido is good.
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>>24847254
>Stalls is shit
>all the 2hus but Renko are viable for competitive battle
>super offense is the most popular style
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>>24847254

In addition to what the other two said, defense and supportive play in general isn't useless but everything you do revolves around either directly killing them or setting it up to make it easier to directly kill them within the next turn or two.

If you get up into the really tryhard leagues you're gonna have to use the rather small amount of objectively better puppets out there but most people go along the lines of trying to maximize their favorite 2hus instead of using what's best.
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>>24847254
Why are you sick of competitive Pokemon and why would you play a Touhou Pokemon fangame instead
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>>24847274
>>24847285
>>24847319
So it's about mid-way into Gen3 and Gen4 meta? Sounds real fucking good.

>>24847326
>Why are you sick of competitive Pokemon
Because I like competitive but it went to shit for obvious reasons I shouldn't have to explain.

>why would you play a Touhou Pokemon fangame instead
Because I like Touhou and this fangame seems real well done instead of just being another shitty romhack.
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>>24847884
Are word filters gone?
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>>24847897
just for cuck i think
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>>24847141
I wish I had Suwako puppet so that I could shower her with my happiness milk whenever I want to.
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>>24847971
>he starts game before new patch
haah waaw
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>>24848004
The translated patch will take forever to come senpai, may as well start it now just in case a miracle happens and the saves end up being compatible.
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>>24848032

There was some info that got translated last thread about a couple of minor bonuses you get from importing your save into the expansion.

Namely if you import and then choose a new starter your old starter will be somewhere in the game exactly how you left it.

Can also choose the same starter again and it gets reverted back to level 5 but I have no idea if that comes with any added benefit to it.
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>>24847964
...I got that reference, I just fapped to it. Okay what the hell
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>>24848131
That shit is so good it's worth fapping to it literally every single day, don't feel bad senpai.
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>>24848149
>les and less artists are drawing stomach bulges.
The company is hard.
The good news is that lenfried went to finally show her pixel ated goodness. I think I went for the albums Atleast 15 times in a week.
> you will never have a relationship with lenfried
Why live?
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>>24847971
So when Gethis sealed Black in the white stone, he actually ended in Gensokyo.
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So what are some universally accepted good puppets?
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>>24848093
I'm pretty sure you'll be able to import anyone you like once you unlock it post-game, probably at some Fragment cost or otherwise time-gated. Starters from either game automatically have the White Dress costume unlocked.
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>>24848335
SFuto.
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>>24848335
power aya
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>>24848335

AyaP, SukunaD, FutoS, UtsuhoS and MamizouD are some off the top of my head.

http://gensou-suwako.com/correct/URViewer/URrank.php

Can use this if you understand Jap or are patient enough to cross-reference the moonrunes.
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>>24848335
Power Suika, jesus christ just look at that damage.
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>>24848367
But how you deal with her useless ability?
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>>24848363
>>24848367
So are Assist puppets that useless? And Defensive puppets vastly inferior to Speed and Power?
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>>24848335
Assist Chen, Power Gyokuto, Defense Alice, Power Iku, Power Elly, Defense Rumia, Defense Sara

>>24848389
No, but Assist forms don't really follow a general rule, typically go to characters who aren't canonically powerful or popular, and tend to be less direct in how they work. Assist Kogasa and Assist Chen are both very good. Defense puppets seem to be best off supporting your offense rather than trying to just stall out the foe due to the threat of Suzaku.
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I feel bad for laughing.
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>>24848451

Just wait until she starts following you the whole game and riding the bike with you in the expansion.

The more you laugh the more you'll hurt poor Waggysaggy's feelings.
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>>24848558
Waggysaggy can kill gods.

Do not hurt her feelings
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How the fuck is her Daiyousei moving faster than mine holy shit you gotta be fucking kidding me.
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>>24848647

Maxed out EVs and IVs with possibly a green emblem can easily do that if you haven't done it yourself.
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>>24848647

"speed" daiyousei only has 15 more base speed then defense, if you are not full EV's rank S and speed nature you might not be faster
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>>24848684
Fucking hell, guess I better reincarnate her whenever the fuck I'm done leveling my lvl1s.
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>>24848721

Welcome to a very good example of why you gotta get that shit done if you wanna do well in netplay.
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