Pull the strings, and let the puppets dance across the battlefield. It's a serene performance.
>What is PDP?
A Pokémon/Touhou fangame, the style can looks like the old touhoumon hacks, but this one is quite different, it has many new features (animated battle sprites, customization of puppets, easy system to distribute EVs and relearn skills anytime, Reincarnation, unique map, HMs are key items, etc...). You can also make online matches.
>Give me the download link.
Here is: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ynnmmo4k9noe0cr/%E5%B9%BB%E6%83%B3%E4%BA%BA%E5%BD%A2%E6%BC%94%E8%88%9E.rar
Even though the game is translated to english, you will need the Locale Emulator too, or the numbers will be messed up (it's more pratical than change the native locale of your PC): https://mega.nz/#!q0lixKqI!n07oANzavBNSgGwWtm5Ezyuf9B0ifT36yi6Vmyi3kjoDon't use Moody your loser.Oh, you didn't used it? So let's have a gud bread.
>>24828356
First for Koishi komejis heartthrobing adventures.
God reimu's Suika just kicks my ass every time.
Needs more Yukari.
Third fur Yuuka is the best at everything and she is my puppetfu.
Fifth for this needs to leave this board.
>>24828402
That's not Nitori, you worthless ass.
>>24828413
its a slow board anyways.
>>24828413
the dl link is in OP. give it a try.
>>24828413
Cry to mods about it, faglord.
>, you will need the Locale Emulator too, or the numbers will be messed up
It doesnt mess up for me at all...I've been playing without that the whole time
>>24828558
Setting your computer to japanese locale works as well, but jackoffs prefer using emulators for such things.
>>24828600
oh...well then.
Do you use up those gems when reincarnating? I don't mean magic frag ones.
>>24828787
The only things destroyed in reincarnation is magical fragments. Puppets, stones, and emblems are all kept.
>>24828804
Nice thanks for the info. Guess I didn't need to restart my save.tfw deleted save already
>>24828813
SAVE THE SAVE NIGGA. IT'S IN YO' RECYCLE.
>>24828817
It's fine, I kinda screwed up my stats already for most of my puppets anyway.
>kosuzu gets banquet drunkard
>>24828920
goes well with moody, don't you think?
>>24828824
just re-reincarnate son.
>>24828413
There are a lot of generals and recurring threads far more off-topic than this one mate.
>>24828984
thats a stupid excuse.
there are plenty of murderers on the run, so theft is ok?
touhoumon is pokemon related. this thread is relvent to the board, period.
Why do i get good stats only on less fav mons?
>>24829025
Because RNG.
Go back to /a/ fucking pedophiles
Can you fight Miko yet?
>>24828413
>>24829035
its basic manners to continue with the people who replied to you instead of blindly bashing and bashing. can't you go talk to the wall or something? you obviously have no intent of listening, and your leave will upgrade the level of this board.
>>24829035
>>24821934
>>24821431
You first, chucklefuck.
Someone host.
what the fuck this is literally just touhou
take it to /jp/ or even fucking /v/
not knocking this game, but ever since you slow shitters got a hold of the translation you've been shilling it nonstop even though it'd been out for a good while already
>>24829459
Oh, another guy like that.
This game is totally based around Pokémon, has pokémon style of overworld, battle, items, many references to pokémon. It's not just a Touhou fangame, it certainly is also a POKÉMON fangame too.
Hide the thread, sir.
>>24829459
The game will get a great update at the end of the year, and just because the game is out for a while we shouldn't talk about it? Jesus.
>>24829459
I don't really see how this is shilling. I mean I'm fine with this leaving /vp/, I'm actually quite appalled its in this shitty fucking board and not somewhere else.
>>24829475
>touhou is pokemon
>>24829513
Just because it has a touhou skin doesn't mean the gameplay isn't pokemon
>>24829534
>4 choices RPG is Pokemon
>>24829536
>4choices rpg with ported moves, abilities, items, stat system, amount of "party members", mechanics such as weather and evs from pokemon isn't pokemon
wew lad
>>24829536
The Day we clear all Hackmon games, favorite girl, meme goes to s4s so this doesn't need to be her.
While we are at it, since Pokemon are animals, we too have to remove that from here since it is litterally animals.
This is how stupid this argument is going to be in a second. I am gonna make you safe from the embarrassment you are going to do.
While we are at it, do you like playing games, Gg is the place for you. So why is Pokemon a board? Ohh right, it was made because we needed a containment board. Until the day /th/ appears this is gonna stay here.
>>24829872
I thought /jp/ was /th/.
>Nitori S has blah defenses, 3 weaknesses, base 100 speed, and only base 105 special attack
How the fuck is she so high in the usage charts? Water Cannon can't be it; Water Spout generally only sees use on Kyogre in Pokemon, and that's because Kyogre is broken as fuck.
What does she have going for her? Is it just being cute?
Is there a way to play this in full screen? Manual says that f11 does it but it doesn't seem to be working. Also, any way to rebind keyboard keys instead of just controller buttons?
>>24830000
Of course. What other reasons are there?
>>24830000
She has Double Team
>>24830000
She gets Minimize (Camouflage), and she's cute.
>>24830000
Bulky offense with amazing type coverage that hits effective against a lot of common netplay puppets while still being decently fast.
Also, evasion boost. Mainly the evasion boost.
>>24830009
that is one of the things that was broken in the translation, japs code things weirdly
A reminder that the "metagame" for this is really better referred to as the "cutegame".
>>24830109
also the noonlineplayersgame
>>24830109
why so?
>>24830126
Everything is cute. Everything
>>24830126
There is a correlation between how cute something is and how useful it is in battle.
Pic related. Pic so very related.
>>24830171
futo isn't that cute.
>>24830206
Futo is lower in the usage charts than Kogasa.
>>24830000
I wouldn't say Water Spout is bad on her; she's built a lot like Typhlosion is. She also looks good at switching into and punishing the ubiquitous Power Iku due to Volt Absorb.
>>24830214
still too high.
is there trick room in this game
>>24830251
there is a terrain effect that switch fast and slow.
there is also one that turns healing into damage, one that ignores weakneses and ressitances (but not immunities) and one that remove crits and make all moves 100% hit
>>24830206
Don't say that anon.
>>24830251
Manifest Genbu is Trick Room
>>24830206
mfw special gyarados is S rank here
>>24830251
I'm building one right now. It looks a bit difficult (this is the one strat actually slightly harmed by lack of penalties on nature). At least Rika S gets to blow shit up (Steel type outrage with +30% boost, 30 base speed).
How long do terrains actually last and how common is that dark terrain breaker online?
Speed Futo is such horseshit. Why does she learn inferno.My team sucks ass against wind.
>>24830267
I sense hilarity with the Fissure clone.
>>24830463
>Rika S
also fuck you rika is in my original trick room team you can use other tohou
>>24830470
>cirno can learn inferno
>>24830470
>why futo learns inferno
maybe play the maingame before playing spinoffs
>>24830470
>Why does she learn inferno.
You know why.
>>24830494
>>24830495
I know the reasoning behind it. I just think it's stupid since Power Futo is already fire type and most other touhous are completely screwed when it comes to coverage moves.
Someone host so I can deal with those S Futos
>>24830530
i dont have one
>>24830536
Host anyways.
>>24830522
>most other touhous are completely screwed when it comes to coverage moves
you might rethink that
oh my god I just found where alternate costumes can be bought
MILITARY CAMOUFLAGE NITORI
I MUST PUT HER INTO MY TEAMis there a image of all the alt costumes
>>24830584
Yes, there is, but is more fun catchin em all and seeing for yourself.
What's the best nether type, and why is it that so few people talk about them?
>resisted by only one type
>great resistances + fighting immunity
>the one type that does resist (Light) can easily be covered with illusion or dark type moves
What's wrong with them
>>24830643
nobody likes nether tuhus
>>24830643
Power Kana and Power RIn are both worth checking out. I'm not sure what the "best" nether type is, though
>>24830654
>implying
>>24830667
Highest in the usage charts is MurasaD at 4th place (behind only UtsuhoS, MamizouD, and AyaP, and beating out SukunaD). Why that's the case I don't know.
>>24830643
There doesn't seem to be a problem. I hear Youmu is good. I kinda want to try Seiga, but at the same time she only barely misses out on a favorite 6 list.
>>24830643
I have three nethers in my team. They are pretty good.
>>24830484
Obviously meant P
But lolno, Rika's attack is beyond ridiculous. It's the only puppet obviously made for TR.
>>24830692
Trick Room is garbage in Pokemon and it'll be garbage here for one reason: 5 turn duration and no way to raise it.
>>24830728
>what is 3 vs 3
>>24830728
There's one way to raise the duration.. I don't think you're going to like the answer.
>>24830737
Use it again?
>>24830737
is the answeruse it again?
>>24830761
>>24830759
tere is stone that raises turns of all terrains dorks
>>24830759
>>24830761
No, even worse. There's a puppet in the game with an ability that increases the duration of terrain moves like Trick Room and that terrain that turns healing into damage.
>>24830728
You can extend the duration to 8 turns by using A. Renko, but she has pretty shit stats. All she can do is set up her terrain, maybe get a screen off, and die.
So, are you guys still trying to make stalling work?
>>24830881
Every time I see it get brought up it goes from someone complaining about how shit it is, then suddenly having an epiphany of how to make it work until someone else chimes in how there are a dozen different counters to it and then the original guy stops existing for a while until he comes back with even more reasons why it's shit.
So yeah it seems to be going pretty well, keep the dream going.
>>24830881
I want to flinch everything to death with Sanae.
>>24830881
im making trick room team atm tb h foam
>>24830681
>I hear Youmu is good
I have her in my in-game team, she gets Nether-type Acrobatics pretty early which was my strongest attack by Base Power for a good while.
>>24830927
She gets TWO moves with a 30% Confuse rate, another one with a 30% Flinch rate and Flame Charge to take advantage of them, and one with 10% chance to raise all your stats. That's hilarious.
When the expansion comes out, I'll be replaying with a Speed Sanae.
>>24831008
when patch comes out you have to grind again?
>>24831012
December 30, translation may take 3 months.
>>24831017
oh cool i play on nip verson so i dont have to
B^)
>>24831017
I don't know where you got 3 months but I can assure you it'll probably take longer, given that we're going to need to retranslate everything, and we aren't starting work -right- away.
>>24831050
I was trying to be positive...
so it will take a year again?
>>24831054
I plan to have the team whipped into better shape this time, not to mention the fact that we've acquired someone who's fluent enough in Japanese and won't disappear after 2 weeks, stalling translation every goddamn time. So we should be quicker, but I don't know if we'll be -3 months- quicker, considering the person who works on the exe will be busy with school again.
>>24831074
>stalling translation every goddamn time
This line is so fucking hilarious and irony in this thread.
>>24831017
Nazrin alt is her in Indiana Jones costume with a little mouse on top of her hat. It is too cute for me.
>>24831074
Is there a site to keep track of your progress other than random 4chan threads once you start working on it?
>>24831106
I guess they could useTumblr
>>24831107
We have the forums and irc chat, and sometimes members of the team post updates to their respective tumblrs about the progress. You're likely to get more information about the patch updates from the forums or chat though.
>>24831131
"The forums" being the Touhou Puppet Play Forums that's linked on the wiki, yeah?
Haven't really gone anywhere other than 4chan for discussion about the game but I can live with checking in on there every once in a while for progress updates.
>>24831074
I thought that you guys just had to copy paste everything in the of the already done translation, and just work in the new added stuff.
Damn.
>>24831152
If seems the expansion will also revamp the main story, hell, on the last stream vid, you can see some vid changes
>Maribel and Renko are gone, replaced by a sleeping Sumireko
>Reimu Oak now appears as soon you arrive to Gensokyo to insult you
also, pretty sure hemo and his team will act more patches after this.
>>24831144
Yeah, the Touhou Puppet Play forums are where we're stationed. There's an entire subforum within the main forums dedicated to the game.
>>24831152
Some of it we can, but considering the story has been massively overhauled, all of that will need to be done from scratch. Very few things can actually be "copy/pasted" over. We can use the old translation as reference, but we can't just copy the files themselves, or in some cases the translation, without caution.
>>24831008
Power is the better option for Sanae since that form gets Lucky, not Speed. Speaking of that, I kinda wanna try Orange. She seems like a fun gimmick with Contrary.
>>24831180
>Reimu Oak
So how much of an asshole/smug prick is she going to be compared to regular Pokemon rivals
>>24831196
Considering she is already very asshole and smug in her canon...
>>24831196
Much, she doesn't even see you as a rival, she sees you as trash on her way.
>30% chance to inflict Broken Stance on the opponent.
?_?
>>24831236
Makes your next attack guaranteed to hit.
>everyone talks about the metas and viable competitive puppets
>nobody hosts or plays online
Does Thunder worth to spend 99 points for 1 pp move? I can't understand.
>>24831273
hosting is a pain
>>24831275
It's just a gimmick move to guarantee stall for a single turn.
Only having a single use makes it almost entirely useless, I haven't heard of anyone doing anything noticeable with it.
>>24831275
I guess they made that move to make fun of thunder ghost.
>>24831278
It works with hamachi, now if everyone got hamachi we'd be able to host.
>>24831308
>works with hamachi
oh nice
Meanwhile, in the Hemo's Waifu department
>>24831308
>hamachi
I'd only heard of it in passing until now. Seems neat. Do both users have to have it to make it work?
>>24831347
oh goodness
>>24831347
I KNEW HE WOULD DO THIS! THE MADMAN!
>>24831370
And i guess that confirmed pic related as Junko's alternate.
>>24831360
I think so
Why is this blatant off topic allowed here? /vp/ is shitty enough without other games taking over it.
>>24831394
This is the same as clover and other hacks.
>>24831360
Both need to have the program, and both need to be in the same room, then the hamachi will simulate a LAN (via internet), it's great for games with direct IP host/connection.
People with hamachi should join the network PDP Arena 01 with the password 123
>>24831394
How many times do I have to say it? Get a mod, or grow up and ignore us.
https://twitter.com/hemogurobin_a1c/status/676747391165272066
So what's the low down on the Phantom Ensemble?
>>24831549
I have no idea what I'm looking at
>>24831569
you can transform waka waka into hecatia
Alright, I don't know what the hell is going on.
First, I tried the version that you gave to download. It just shut down itself with "Game data invalid. Please re-install and try again".
>Install, ok, I'll look for the installation pack
Then when I got the ISO and installed it, I updated every patch up to 1.34; but the numbers still looks wrong. I have Japanese as one of the languages in the PC and also AppLocale just in case.
I uninstalled the game and reinstalled but still nothing, then I unistalled this thing for good, trying to play it again from the option here but nope. Nothing works, any ideas?
>>24831626
i literally downloaded game clicked left mouse buton launch in japaneese but whatever you say anon
>>24831626
Applocale won't work for this game, and it's deprecated garbage anyways. Try the OP version with Locale Emulator instead.
>>24831569
asked a Japanese-speaking friend to take a look, apparently reincarnating Wakasagihime was turning her into Hecatia for some unfathomable reason, so it's fixed now
>kasen cant learn sleep talk
HURR DURR GUTS SLEEP TALK WOULD BREAK GAME HOLY SHIT - hemo
>>24831633
>>24831648
Already tried with Locale Emulator too. Same thing. The game just doesn't start.
>>24831668
it works with me ill pm you ;)
>>24831626
do you have a japanese langauge pack installed?
>>24831347
>>24831370
Based Hemo
>>24831649
Is that waifu bias at work
>>24831668
Are you actually right clicking it and selecting Locale Emulator > Run in Japanese? That shouldn't be happening.
>>24831668
If you want to be completely thorough, do pic related -> restart -> download again -> unpack again -> run.
You really shouldn't have to dl again but let's just cover everything.
>>24831728
fffffffffuck
Is SDM the only place with the Patchy doll? Going there every time I want to reincarnated is a hassle.
>>24831773
http://en.tpdpwiki.net/wiki/List_of_puppets_by_location
Yup, doesn't exist anywhere else.
>>24831787
I think they mean the Reincarnation Patchouli Doll, like the PC Akyuu Doll. But as far as we're aware, yes all the same.
Is there a list of all postgame rematches somewhere?
>>24831773
>going through three doors
>a hassle
what
>>24831871
It's certainly less convenient than having one besides every Akyuu doll. I'm too lazy to hag map to SDM every time and from what she said, I thought there were more dolls.
>>24831728
>>24831733
I uninstalled the game that was with the ISO (Yep, with setup and all). Clean any residual data. Then, I changed the language back to the original (Non Jap); restarted, changed it again to Japanese, restarted.
And it just don't works. I guess I just give up, thi
>>24831885
Yeah well it's not like you're reincarnating all the time. Just reincarnate as much as you can every time if it's such a bother for you.
>>24831910
>thi
Well shit. "This" just won't work. I can blame my PC either, it should be dead.
why does nobody play online, jesus christ
>>24831932
Still building a team, do you want to crush some shit rank puppets?
>>24831932
online is postgame and barely anyone knows how to host
that should change soon since we figured out it works with hamachi though
186.19.217.72:10800
If it doesn't work and you wanna try with Hamachi the network is "PDP Arena 01" and the password is 123
>>24831932
That's like soku thing in /jp/ and /v/, the oldfags would fucking rekt your shit in. Is there an IRC for this shit? Atleast soku has one.
>>24832174
No IRC that I know of.
>>24832174
The translators have an irc and sometimes there's netplay there.
You're probably just as well off posting here though, if not better.
>>24832174
irc.rizon.net@#tpdp
>>24831910
>Then, I changed the language back to the original (Non Jap); restarted, changed it again to Japanese, restarted.
This doesn't really involve language packs per say. When you click the circled, a prompt should pop up saying that you need to restart. Going through that process gets your system locale in Japanese.
If you did in fact do all of that, then sorry mate I've no idea. What's your OS?
>>24832225
I did that, I mentioned that just for make clear that I made every step possible, since I already had Japanese as local language the first time I tried.
Its Win10, tried with and without compatibility enabled for W8, W7 and even XP. Nothing worked.
>>24832250
You know in those situations where you thought it was a joke and you just passed it off? Well then
>he uses windows 10
>>24832250
>W10
that may be it. It doesn't seem to play nice with doujin stuff in general, and I've run across some hearsay saying it doesn't like this game in particular. Sorry man.
>>24832250
>win10
Can you actually buy Tewi's item or is it just her fooling around with me?I know the answer but I must be sure I can't trust the bunny.
>>24832314
>>24832263
To be clear, this PC is almost dead, W7 was falling appart almost every 10 minutes since even with everything about updates and options disabled, still showed up the thingy to update to Win10.
I had two options
>Keep going and crashing with Win7
>Update and free this poor machine of its mysery.
And somehow it worked, it still crash itself but it can be worked around, since its just every now and then. Well, I guess that's it. Thanks for the help anyway.
>>24832341
>still showed up the thingy to update to Win10
oh, you really were retarded this whole time, if not you got us good.
Oh my.
Man that Yuuka fight was underwhelming as fuck. The inbuilt exp share really makes battles a waste of time if you have a semi regular team.
>>24833148
All it really does is get rid of the bullshit grinding.
>>24833148
It's definitely designed with swapping your team to higher cost puppets throughout the game and is really easy to end up overleveled if you don't.
It was mildly disappointing being overleveled for some key fights on my first playthrough but I still like the mechanic in general, hopefully it gets polished a bit better in the expansion.
Although it does also sound kind of fun to try and actively go out of my way to minimize XP gain without straight up skipping fights.
How does this door work even.
>>24833323expansion
>>24833297
the difficulty absolutely needs some tweaks. I'm near the garden of the sun, and everything after Remi has been a joke.
It's apparent that the game was rushed in my view, so hopefully this will be addressed.
>>24832395
sexy were-teacher. Neat
>>24832457
fucking great costume
This game has some very pretty vistas.
Lastly, I chose Byakuren as my starter, but she's... kinda mediocre. Light is a lousy attacking type. She does get swords dance, 120BP light + 20% dmg with her ability, and 130BP fighting, so she's above average I'd say. But compared to many comparable offensive puppets she's really nothing special. Her stat spread is a bit too middling as well.
>>24833374
Yeah, it feels like there are a lot of things in this that they just didn't quite have the time to do what they really wanted with it and thus that's what the expansion is for.
>koishi sleeps with you
cute
Her move pool is surprisingly shallow.
>>24833576
>tfw this dissapointed me the most out of the whole game
fug
>>24833576
Ha, that's the same set I'm running. Seems to do the job, though.
And yes, it is. Generally higher cost/BST puppets have more limited movepools it seems.
And neat, first fight to make me think in ages. I've been playing sub-optimally though. Pictured: Ran about to get wrecked. Shouldn't have assumed nature.
This reminds me of Sakuya A dialog with Kagerou in DDC.
and here i thought youkai mountain was long.
Seems like it could be fun.
>>24833740
I tried continue + anatman combo before. Maybe it was just me but my luck is just fucking rotten.
I can finally net battle now but I want to ask; if I enter a battle with normal rules, will dolls under level 50 be brought up to Level 50? I need to know whether or not I can reincarnate without missing out on the fun due to an underleveled team.
>>24833889
I don't believe they are.
But since you do need to earn PP in order to ramp your stats and learn moves, chances are you're not going to be lower than 50 anyway. More so since the majority of puppets absolutely need their level 70 move.
Where can i get best girl?
>>24834003
Just start with her, dude! If she's your favorite, just tell glasses man and you'll get her right away.
No one has posted best 2hu yet. I think I will.
>>24834003
After you get rock break.
>>24834003
>>24834023
time travel to december 30th
>>24834023
Rumiafags are even worse than flanfags.
>>24834028
You fucking idiot.
>>24834030
EX-Rumia is best girl.
>>24834030
>Cirnofags are even worse than flanfags.
ftfy
Meanwhile there are like 8 moves I want to run on Raisins. Fuck.
>>24834028
I can't wait.
Do we know what type she is? Dream? Void? Illusion?
Fuck i've used like 20 threads trying to catch a Yumeko. what the hell.
>>24834097
>dream
no way they'd make something dream type, nothing uses dream except the yin and yang attacks
>>24834114
lower her hp
>>24834114
Get better threads and fire type move
>>24834097
she is shit 2hu type
at what part of game you are anons?
>>24834288
Final battle
>>24834288
About to go to Eientei
Is Flandre any good? I need fire but Rika isn't really cutting it with her abysmal speed.
>>24834342
She is as good as that abomination of a wallpaper is on my eyes.i.e. okay, since the wallpaper isn't making me vomit my organs out
>>24834342
>that picture
Who thought the world needed this?
>>24834288
Just cleared Bamboo Forest, had to grind a bit for Marisa.
>>24830881
I think focus on assist mons rather than defense mons might do the trick. d mons have good bulk, but to really control the field you need a mons arsenal, and stall is all about controlling the field.
>>24834473
oh....oh my god her fingers
>>24834500
POWER OF MIRACLES
>>24830584
if you like puppets in militery costumes and want to have your own army, try gyokuto as well.
along with rika, youll get yourself militery thamed team.
>>24833754
try that combo on a yoshika- she gets desperate defend, which raises her def on status condition.
>>24834532
Its still RNG bullshit with a 10 sp move. Its gimmicky as hell but I don't think it will really cut it most of the time.
>>24834500
artist did it on purpouse
>>24834117
i once tried to use pretense to change my puppet into dream type.
it failed.
>>24834539
why...even
Do I need a specific program to extract the portraits and music?
>>24834549
you need to see his other works
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?page=1&tags=ao_usagi
Who do I go to for reincarnations
>>24834573
after you finish the game, reincarnate with patchouli. you should get the reincarnation items before doing so tough.
So just asking, does this game have a decent amount/a lot ofPC-98 characters?
>>24834601
yes. You can even have some characters put on alternate costumes to make them look like they were on PC-98.
>>24834342
anon, WTF is this shit?
I wish /v/ thread is as good as this thread.
I wonder if it's getting better or getting worse.
>>24834712
/v/ is full of touhou elitisms (MUH SECONDARY BOOGIEMAN!) and the boatfag.
>Pokemon board
>Touhou
>>24834744
See this and dare to tell me is not like pokemon
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtNF3DkZaps
>>24834543
It also doesn't work with protean.
someone host
>>24834744
It was a pokemon rom hack. They had to make an exe out of it because they wouldn't be able to sell it at comiket if they used pokemon original game files.
This thread is related to /vp/, /v/ and could even be on /jp/. But this is where it got the best reception.
>>24834830
i don't think calling it "pokemon hack" is longer correct because it was built from scratch, is now a game on its own, a touhou fangame with gameplay inspired by pokemon.
>>24834858
It's less "inspired by" and more "lifted entirely from" with a few improvements.
>>24834963
Maybe he was talking about the engine? But then, I dunno how many changes were made to the basic Pokemon one.
>>24834974
They don't use the actual files but I'm pretty sure the calculations are the same. Hell even most of the moves are direct parallels to Pokemon moves.
Wiki is down, don't expect it to be back up for a good long while. In a nutshell, the wiki was still getting hammered with activity to the point where the actual webhost was like "You've used 300 gigs of bandwith in one week, shit's about to explode". We tried to fix it last night but in between the fixes and now we got another 750000 hits to the wiki which completely killed it. We are looking into alternatives to hosting, but if we can't find any, expect the wiki to go on a wikia.
>>24834994
The fuck, was the game that popular online?
>>24834994
Holy shit, I had no idea that many people were playing this.
For those in need of information now, just use this in the interim: http://www.mediafire.com/download/qmffs6x1429z7cu/tpdp+PuppetDex+1.8.xlsx
>>24834994
>almost a million people play this
>nobody hosts
>>24835006
>>24835007
The statistics we were given show that, on average, the wiki was procesing more connections from similar IPs than unique IPs. The wiki got about 300k visitors a day, but only 5k were unique. This would mean that each user is looking at aproximately 30~60 pages per visit.
We also identified that a good 18% of these numbers were from bots that do absolutely nothing, so we worked on banning those. Ultimately the damage was far too great and this was the equivalent of putting a bandage over a gunshot wound.
It also doesn't help that, apparently, the wiki was getting ddosed somehow while we were looking at statistics - who knows, maybe it was always getting ddosed, I wasn't the one overlooking statistics. The wiki maintainer tried to install hotlink protection or something, but again, it was all too late.
The level curve in this game is terrible. The first few bosses are strong as fuck, then your team is ten lvls higher than everything midgame.
Exp groups seem a lot more noticeable compared to normal pokemon. Hope there's a difficulty option in the expansion.
>>24835031
Guess the people who didn't like the game were more than just very dedicated shitposters. How silly.
>>24835041
Everything you said is true, and will hopefully be fixed in the expansion. If it's any consolation the difficulty apparently returns endgame, though I've yet to see that for myself.
MugetsuP looks fun. Calm mind, good stab, fire blast. Nothing earth-shattering but looks solid.
>>24834744
>video game
>not on /vg/
Your move jerk
>>24834994
Fug. I was just starting to research counters to my waifus, too. Would have gone a long way in lining up a solid team.
>>24834994
>expect the wiki to go on a wikia.
No, God, anything but the shitty theme Wikia forced on the web to pander to smartphone faggots. Wikia died to me in 2010.
>>24835349
Trust me, wikia is the last possible option we want to resort to. We've found some possibilities that could work, but they all require either advertisements or paying for a vpn/dedicated server.
>>24835385
Welp, that sure blows.
Oh well, as long as it exists somewhere it's still better than nothing. Thanks for your work, hopefully it can end up being on something that can be appreciated.
>>24835394
What would be the price for that, depending on how much it was, I'd be willing to help a little for better quality servers.
>>24835412
Something we're looking at would cost 18 a month, but the actual person who'd host it is asleep and I want to discuss it with them before we do anything like open a donation pool.
so, how good is power-aya
>>24835644
Easily in the top 3 best puppets in the game, if not the absolute best (For netplay, at least).
Nothing else can put out as much damage as she can while having as much speed as she does.
>>24835031
>30~60 pages per visit
>I literally went over all puppet pages just to look at alt costumes
I-I'm sorry.
>>24835746
Don't worry anon, I'm a big offender too.
All the costumes are just too cute.
>>24835746
I opened 60 pages every time to upload the custom sprites, so I'm also to blame (the server admin even said I was one of the largest individual bandwith users (with an account) on the wiki)
So is this game any good compared to actual Pokemon or is it just a glorified waifu fight simulator
>>24835947
better mechanics
>>24835952
In what way
>>24835947
A large amount of the tedium in preparing your team both during the story and in post-game min/maxing has been made dramatically more accessible and the overall balance of the game is good enough that it's almost always viable to choose your favorites instead of having to use what's objectively better.
The story is nonexistent (Not that that's a bad thing really) and the dungeon / world design is pretty hit or miss but overall everything else is very well done and soon to be even better with the upcoming expansion.
Also it's adorable as fuck with great music.
>>24835959
>alternate palettes
In Pokemon, a Pokemon has a ~1/4000 chance (and that was doubled in Gen 6) to be an alternate color from normal (i.e. shiny), with some mechanics existing to make the odds very slightly less of a long shot.
Here, you can just buy the alternate palette for 3000 at the tailor. Or an entire alternate costume.
>type balance
Pokemon? Compare Steel as a defensive type to Ice, and remember that Steel lost 2 resistances in Gen 6 (it used to resist ghost and dark as well). Note how Ghost has only two weaknesses (one of which is itself, and also note how it's arguably the best offensive attack type in the game) and two immunities. Dragons before Gen 6 (Game Freak said Fairy types exist solely to stop Dragons). It's completely fucked and Gen 6 only made it slightly less so.
Here, the type balance is, while still not perfect (Wind is dominant as all hell, Water is prevalent), drastically improved. No type has fewer than 2 resistances or more than 5, no type has more than one immunity and those that do get fewer resistances, and no type is weak to more than 3 other types.
>preparing for competitive
Oh god the difference here is so insane it deserves it's own post.
>>24835959
Nitori is in it.Now that's a, ah say that's a joke right there son.
>>24835959
Some stuff that I can remember right off the bat:
>No HM
They have been replaced for key items.
>Reincarnation
Faster way to breed.
>Complex maps
Some maps are mazes or just really big(but not just an open space), you may want to draw a map, or just look at it on the net.
>Seal, not catch
You can 'seal" a puppet right away with no penalties, the thing is that once they are sealed you have to defeat it to catch it.
>>24836014
So in Pokemon, you want something to be ready for competitive battling? First, you need to breed flawless IVs into it, a process that will take an eternity unless you were smart enough to just get a ditto with 31 in every IV from some hacker. Then you have to give one parent a Destiny Knot (so 5 IVs get passed on rather than 3) and the one with the nature you want an Everstone. Then you have to look up whether the thing requires egg moves. Or moves it could only learn from a previous generation, and if so then prepare for the living hell that is pre-Gen 6 breeding, or just do the sane thing and cheat instead.
So once you get all the egg moves on, start breeding until you have the right ability (if you were shooting for the hidden ability I hope you remembered to make sure the female parent had it), the right nature (thankfully Everstone guarantees that's passed on now), and the right IVs in the right spots, because you need exact combinations to get a specific hidden power type and some things NEED a specific HP type to be useful. Note that when an egg pops up is pure RNG and that the number of steps can reach ridiculous amounts (up to 10k!).
Once the universe deems you worthy of mercy and finally blesses you with a competitively viable mon, all you have to do from there is EV train it (Gen 6 made this an order of magnitude less bullshit thank god), slap on the right TMs and HMs, and settle in for the incredibly long grind to level 100. Now repeat this five more times for the other 5 team members, and then one more time for each additional team member you want to have as an option in your boxes. And Gen 6 made it an order of magnitude easier in every single way, especially in regards to legendaries (whom are now actually feasible to get good ones of since they're guaranteed at least 3 flawless IVs period).
NOW you can actually start playing competitively and losing to boring stall teams!
>>24836162
In TPDP, here's what you have to do.
Take your chosen puppet. Reincarnate it (aka press a button and done) using the rainbow stone until it has flawless IVs (assuming both "parents" are perfect in terms of IVs, it's a 1/16 chance to get perfect IVs everywhere; getting the first perfect puppet will still be difficult but once you have that things will get infinitely easier), using whatever mark you want to ensure it has the right boosted stat.
Now level it up and stance change it to whichever stance you want. Use your PP to put the EVs exactly where you want them, and then if it has the wrong ability spend the 20 PP to switch it over to the other one.
(Note that there's an item that does this in Pokemon, but it doesn't work for hidden abilities and costs 200 BP, which is best described as "more than a full party's worth of top-end hold items". I ran out of space last post to mention how many hours of Battle Maison you'll have to go through in order to get the items you need, and how since hold items can't be ported over across generations anymore you'll have to repeat the grind again in a few years anyways.)
Also note that in TPDP said top-end hold items cost regular money. Lots of it, but there are easy sources of money to grind on and it takes nowhere near as much time to afford even a 250k item as it does to afford a 48BP item in Pokemon. And since item clause is enforced online under normal circumstances in TPDP, you won't need more than one of a given item.
Now level the puppet up to 70 (which is when it learns it's last move from leveling up), use PP and skill cards to finish the moveset up, give it whatever item you want it to use, and you're done with that puppet. And if you know what you're doing you can do this with up to 5 puppets at a time as long as the last one can 1-shot anything you have it fight (whereas in Pokemon you have to wait until you've finished EV training first).
The only agonizing part is finding a battle online.
>>24836228
hey nice arguments man but RAIKO IS FUCKING GARBAGE LMAO
>>24836254
Raiko more like Rai-NO.
>There's Raiko
>But no Suicune
>Entei is apparently some house in a bamboo forest
Yeah this game is crap.
>>24836254
Calling the others waifus of garbage is kinda rude, dude.
>>24836273
suicune is what u should be considering right now
>>24836228
Not defending Pokemon, but you could've listed the few problems the reincarnation system has, so they aren't misled.
>You need to finish the game to use it, whereas breeding tends to be avaliable sooner
>You don't generate new puppets, just improve old ones, meaning you'll have to go out and hunt for the rarer ones, if you want, say, two Flans, both times at a 3,33% chance of appearing
>reincarnating uses items, while that's certainly enough to go by and make a full team and even more, whcih is enough for most, if you go fully obssessed, you'll need to grind such items as well(You can also savescum, which is the best alternative)
Still miles better than what happens in Pokemon, unless you cheat. Anyway, have a Raiko.
So for those of you who were interested in the wiki's future, we now have some news for you. The administrator of the forums and the late wiki has re-opened the donation pool for the wiki.
http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=582.0
We'll be looking into a dedicated server hosted via Lithium, it'll cost 15 dollars a month for Tier 1. Any amount helps keep the wiki up even longer, so if you can afford to drop even a little bit, it'd be greatly appreciated.
>>24836281
Yeah. Also worth mentioning is the type balance isn't as good offensively (Earth hits 4 types for SE whereas only a few others even get to hit 3 for SE, Nether offensively is basically Gen 5 Dragon, etc).
Reincarnating using items is a pain, but thankfully the item needed to reincarnate is frequently found from random encounters, or given in sets of 6 for winning online fights. Other two points are on the dot though.
>>24836275
Maybe he shouldn't have a garbage waifu then.
what does fear weak dark statuses do?
>>24836281
If seems you really like Raiko, anon, sadly she is doomed to become obscured, i seriously don't understand why she is not popular.
>>24836867
http://tpdp.supersanctuary.net/manual/#dis
>>24836884
>Explanation of the puppet screen with different numbers for each part of it
>MFW the part number 9
>>24831180
It kind of needs it. The gameplay's good, but there's way too much "go here because I say so, then it's never relevant ever again".
where is wiki
Man I need a replacement for P Marisa. I'm getting tired of everyone and their mothers packing Light/Dark resistant puppets and one shotting her on the counter.
Also, has anyone tried Yuuka/Meira?
>>24837056
apology for poor english
when were you when wiki was kill
i was at kasen home training puppet when yukari ring
'wiki is die'
'no'
and you?????????????
>>24837071
YuukaD is very good.
Not sure about Meira.
Who do I go to for reincarnations
>>24837104
you need to kill yourself first
>>24837113
awesome
>>24831649
>>24831569
>>24831549
It's about transferring your puppets.
>When transferring data to the Gensou Ningyou Enbu expansion, several things change depending on which puppet you started with.
It looks like if you choose the same puppet both times, then you get it at the start leveled back down to 5, whereas if you chose a different one then you get it back later (presumably post-game) in its original condition (though it looks like no item).
>>24837104
SDM
someone host
>>24837056
Went down due to too much traffic, they're currently in the process of finding a new host.
>>24837166
Huh, interesting. Does it say any benefits to transferring your save other than being able to re-obtain your maxed out starter?
Any benefit to de-leveling your starter?
>>24837226
There's a whole infosheet about it.
Skimming it, it looks like you'll be able to unlock puppet transfer from your old file post-game. In order to use the wedding dress costume or hold the dream shard item, a puppet needs a "heart mark", and starter puppets have that by default.
>>24837278
Looks like you're gonna have to earn that full-waifu team.
Thanks guy, keep the info comin if you happen to look around any further or when new things get revealed if you can.
>>24834719
Maybe try to discuss there without derailing the thread or just make your own thread there.
>>24836882
You replied to the only Raiko picture that wasn't him, Raiko is ok but I like other characters more.
I was just replying to his observations and feeding him another Raiko picture because he's fun to help and a nice guy.
>>24837278
So basically there's an incredibly rare mark (possibly shiny equivalent) that not only unlocks a second alt costume but is needed to hold a hold item that boosts all stats.
So outside of the starter, how do you get something with the heart mark? There's an actual gameplay element involved here
>>24837424
I'll bet it'll be some equivalent of happiness in Pokemon, you keep them around, fight and such and eventually, they'll get the mark.
>>24837424
Maybe it's been explained more somewhere else, but here it just says it's an indication that it's fulfilled certain conditions. I'd guess happiness, battle tower completion, or an event.
>>24837443
Well, the optimal thing to do assuming getting a heart mark is incredibly rare/hard to do would be to pick a different starter from the first go-around; you get a new starter with a heart mark as long as you don't pick the same one you picked in the first game, and then postgame your original starter comes back also with a heart mark.
Optimality!
What the fuck? the stats for my puppets are barely changing when I reincarnate them?
>>24837461
>Asking people to choose something other than their favorite as their starter
Heathen.
>>24837461
>pick someone other than Raiko
>not have Raiko with me on my trainer card
Nope can't hear you
>>24837466
Are you using the stone that makes the stats for your puppet not change when you reincarnate them?Frankly, unless you have the rainbow stone, don't bother and just go get that.
>>24837480
where do you get a rainbow stone...?
>>24837486
Do Kasen's quest, she's located in the same route towards the giant frog's pound.
>>24837486
http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=374.0
>>24837489
>>24837490
thanks guys.
>Bump limit again
Is so nice to see this place full of life.
>>24837501
It looked like it was slowing down for a bit but it came back up again.
The expansion oughta get it soaring again soon, although I'll be a pleb that has to wait for the translation.
>>24837489
>>24837490
Also beat up Suwako for her 2xEXP 2xPP charm
>>24837525
If I beat Shinki again, can I refight Suwako for another copy?
Only reason it's not taking so long to level up my characters is because Kogasa is of a low cost.
>>24837531
No, only one per file
Is true that defeating shinki again in the postgame reactivates all the rematches and Letty Red?
God Im having a hard time finding my way around this foggy area
>>24837553
I recall hearing somewhere that it does but I haven't confirmed it myself.
>>24837553
>Letty Red
Seriously, why she was chosen to be Red?
>>24837531
It's pretty easy to level just by grinding the E4. A banded level 100 Power Aya can carry five level 1s through with only with only a Revive or two per fight.
>>24837751
because letty A CUTE
>>24837769
>Red
>cute
That doesn't add up.
>>24837751
Probably because of that whole Letty could cause a whole incident by herself thing. That's exlcusive to her as a stage 1 boss, except for maybe Rika (Not counting Yuyuko, of course.)
>>24837751
>According to ZUN, if she was to show her full power compared to her strength shown in Perfect Cherry Blossom, it would cause an incident.
Also, she let the MC win and solve the incident because even she thought Winter was lasting too long.
>>24837777
Fangirls think that manga!Red is cute.
>D Yuuka
>Slow as shit
>Has equivalent to Analytic
>Also has Giga Drain and Recover
Why would I ever take P Yuuka over D Yuuka?
>>24837899
It's there just in case you wanted the option of making her mediocre instead of really good to fulfill your masochism quota for the week.
We require more bread.
>>24837751
So would she beat Red in a fight or not
>>24837930
/vp/ is a slow board so we stick with the thread until it fully drops off and gets archived, no need to make a new one quite yet, still has some time left.
>>24837937
If she fights by herself and because MT.Silver summit is always cold (her power source), she will always be full power, but i guess Charizard could give red a chance.
>>24837950
I mean in a Pokemon/Puppet battle, not an actual fight
Speed Meira
Steel/Dark
Learns Mad Rush Stance, Overtake Strike, Baton Pass and Pursuit equivalent.
Has physical version of Positive or Weak Armor for her abilities.
Power Meira
King's Rock in ability form or Steel Type Overgrow
Has a lot of moves that can cause flinch and Overtake Strike just because.
Statwise it feels like Focalens just swapped FAtk and Speed and called it a day for both forms.
>>24837944
But I need to post my face when 6S Reimu in one reincarnation.
>>24837957
But puppets are stands, only other puppets can damage them, which means red's pokemons will be useless.
christ kyouko hits hard
>>24837982
She has like the second or third highest spread attack in the game and niche (Makes STABs do double damage instead of 50%).
Yeah, she does some damage.
>>24837975
So a Smogonite using nothing but Ubers would watch helplessly as his overpowered legendaries were destroyed by this?
>>24837378
Maybe if the others keep talking about their subject (like the touhou ambition game's anon) instead of shitposting about the puppets.
>>24838026
If we going for the stands' fact, yes.
>>24837899
It's funny because technically D Yuuka deals more damage than P Yuuka
Where do I fight Letty?
>>24837769
Fall > Winter
>>24838131
In a cave at mystic lake, it opens in the postgame.
>>24838131
End of the ice cave, entrance is in misty lake in the water and opens up after you beat Shinki.
NIG YOU'RE FACING THE WRONG WAY
>>24838228
She can't help it anon, can't you tell she's blind?
>>24838228
Use echolocation.
>>24838228
She uses sound attacks, she's rebounding them off the walls for triple echo damage.
Don't you even know how Pokemon works?
>>24838228
She's wearing sunglasses in a dark cave.
Power Yuyuko has been surprisingly useful.
>nifty (if situational) typing that gives her good immunities and resistances.
>great attack
>good bulk
>movepool is limited but has all she needs. Nether hits nearly everything and she can nuke or heal herself with nature
Far better than I was expecting.
Also can someone fill me in on why KoishiA is used as much as she is? I can't figure it out.
>>24838363
How did you build your Yuyuko? Subseeding seems unviable on her, but I can't think of a 4th move besides two stabs and energy drain.
>>24838363
Prolly because of her waster ability.
For the next thread, please don't make a general style opener, it just invites shitposting.
It's so much less convenient trying to build a team without the wiki. How much does the hosting cost?
>>24838344
So she can so she can?
>>24838428
http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=582.0
>>24838395
It's a work in progress. I couldn't think of a 4th either, so I just slapped a screen on her.
Looking at her options, she has trick, and good dark and poison attacks via TM. Looks like poison bomb is popular in the Japanese scene.
>>24838400
It's been ages since I bothered with comp play, so bear with me. I'm guessing the idea here is to hold a really shit item, use trick, and that's it? Isn't that rather gimmicky?
Alright, after looking at the usage stats it seems that her most popular use is laying down priority screens. Curious.
>It's so much less convenient trying to build a team without the wiki.
Are you aware of the excel file going around? It's more convenient than the wiki in some ways, and less in others.
>>24838520
>Are you aware of the excel file going around? It's more convenient than the wiki in some ways, and less in others.
I've been using it alongside the wiki for some time. I'm currently looking at the possibility of dumping it into a sql db which might be a bit more convenient
Speaking of Koishi. Is this good for her?
>>24838585
Better than mine
>>24838585
For a catch, that's damn good for KoishiP.
For KoishiA that speed is a bit disappointing, but overall well above average.
So yes, it's a good catch. I swear she has one of the better sprites in the game.
Who else here is using cheat engine for the speedhack? My goodness I love having my turbo back.
>>24838501
Assuming those numbers are accurate just donated for the rest of the month. Didn't get any answers on the IRC so hopefully that's right.
hopefully it stays up for a while
>>24838665
Nice work anon, I can definitely say I'll be one to appreciate it if the wiki goes up somewhere good again.
>>24838626
Sucks wiki is down and I can't compare between KoishiP and KoishiA. Guess I'll just put her in the box of shame in the mean time.
>>24838874
use >>24835007
It should suffice for a comparison
>>24837278
That makes me drool.
>>24838891
Well this is nice. Both KoishiP and KoishiA seems pretty good. Any idea how KoishiA would work though?
>>24838874
jesus how horrific
This is my Keine. She fucking pulverizes.
>>24839142
I have a Keine as well. She also fucks shit up.
I'm going to make Kokoro work dammit.
>>24839182
Defense Kokoro seems good.
>>24839142
Good Keine, she can be useful to step in othersor step in me, I would love it.
>>24839194
Moody stall is boring. I want the protean shenanigans.
>>24839241
Well then dump Kokoro. She's a fucking shit 2hu anyway.
>>24837531
only suwako's give both xp and pp, but the item that gives double xp exists twice. you can simultiously level up 3 mons at once, that is like half your team.
>>24839252
You sounds like a smogon fag.
>>24839241
she's too slow to really use protean well
>>24838520
>>24838395
i like the waster ability because i combine it with mind control to negate enemy ability and item both at a single move.
>>24839252
>She's a fucking shit 2hu anyway.
I didn't know that's how we say "best" now, I'll keep that in mind.
>>24839411
I wouldn't call her "best", but she's definitely supercute.
>>24839424
>cute girl in pink with no emotions
Sounds perfect to me.
>>24839449
She has emotions, she just can't show them properly.Nitori is best anyways.
>>24839449
Pedo arab oil prince detected.
>>24839451
>She has emotions, she just can't show them properly.
Practically the same thing, not being able to show that you are emotional is a lack of emotions.
>>24839453
>wanting girls to have emotions so they can get all moody and slutty
I just like them pure and not insane. Kokoro is a good girl, don't dirty her.
>>24830009
For future reference, in order to play in fullscreen you have to press f11 while in the options menu. Make sure you save first because on some systems it will just freeze (I learned this the hard way).
>>24839472
You sick pedo fuck.
>>24839476Are you saying you wouldn't?
So, just beatShinki, is there a list of postgame shit to rip through? I know about reincarnation and fighting Yukari, but not about much else. I'd check the wiki but it's fuckin' down again or something.
Where'd the best place to farm some cash, I need to buy all the skill cards that I havent gotten yet.
>>24839534
The elite 3 is the fastest money. A slower alternative is wild puppets outside kasen's house.
>>24839540
alright, thanks
>>24839556
>>24839556
>>24839556
New bread, eat before freezing.
>>24839565
>/tpdp/ general
One job.
>>24839565
Anon, you can at least wait until page 10 here. This isn't /v/. This is a slow board.
>>24839565
>>24839565
You fucking moron, wait until page 10.
>>24839565
>general
>edition
stop that. The only things associated with those terms is shit, and I don't think you want that.
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