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Programming editionsoundcloud guy here
I've started (sort of) working on a PMD game engine to see if I can't cobble anything passable together, trying to keep it commented so other people could carry on if I give up
>>24770781
How powerful should I AT LEAST be to be able to kill Kecleons?
>>24770794
lots of vitaminsAT LEAST
>>24770781
>trying to keep it commented
you're a more honorable coder than I am OP
is this javascript tho? i'd love to see an html5 launch-and-play thing, but javascript just seems like such a hassle to attempt
>>24770781
>no link to last thread
>no resource links
You should be ashamed you did such a shitty job.
>>24770805
I'm using Game Maker StudioThis also means I can make an HTML5 version
>>24770794
level 99AT LEAST
So, I have to wonder, did anyone else get Chimchar? The quiz chose it for me, decided to roll with it.
>>24770808
Oops
For anyone that cares
Old thread: >>24766703
Blue, Sky, and an emulator: https://mega.co.nz/#!6E8xWSzB!2TQy6qzEfI3qPxL3a2JJ9l7Wn6KXwHKxKxepMs3RIck
/vp/'s Sky guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-
Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA
Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJI'm a forgetful fuck
I forget, does increasing your teammates' IQ in Explorers actually make them more intelligent on top of giving them new skills? My Rotom is spamming Thunder Wave against already-paralyzed Delibirds when he has plenty of Thundershocks left.
>sell a ton of Fresh Apples in a Kecleon Shop on the 16th floor of Super Apple Forest
>take them all back, including the rainbow Dive TM
>use only 1 Reviver Seed escaping
>sell the apples again in town
>>24770821
>using Thunder Wave to begin with
Just give it Wide Slash or something
first for best mega
>>24770781
Sounds awesome, wishing you the best of luck!Totally wouldn't mind making a script/story for something like this.
>>24770846
Ampharos is best guildmaster
>>24770846
cant argue with that
What did_itmean by this?
Virizion is best girl
>>24770850
First I have to start with the basics, anon
figuring out dungeon generation for the first time, I'm thinking of randomly adding rooms and then ensuring each room has one or more connections to another, probably won't work in a way similar to the actual games
>>24770830
It's also frustrating how I have to turn off Squirtle's Bite to keep him from using it instead of his Water moves against Fire-types. The partner AI is basically the opposite of SMD, where they spam their strongest move until they run out.
>>24770879
PS, if anyone knows anything about how PMD generates dungeons, let me know
I know for certain some dungeons generate with different rules than others (longer corridors, etcetera)
>>24770873Tentacles
>>24770878
Shut the fuck up Dunsparce. Keldeo is already tapping that fat ass harder than Darkrai on Temporal Tower. Why do you think she's connected to Keldeo and not you? Grow some balls and get your own girl, Dunsparce.
reposting from last thread. Conflicted about what to do with SMD right now.
>for once in my life get Totodile first try in a Mystery Dungeon game
>Feraligatr is in my top 10 favorites
>play through the game and had a great time
>Water is one of my favorite types
>Crocodilia is my favorite order of animals
>Traveling through water makes dungeons easier
>Chespin is my 2nd favorite starter
>love Quilladin and Chesnaught too
>want to restart but don't want to be stuck through Serene Village for another 10 hours
>Fighting is one of my favorite types
>Knights/Paladins/Tanks are my favorite class in video games
>I have a terrible fear of birds, which makes me feel more connected to Chesnaught, who is double weak to flying
pic related is my playtime as of now
also made a strawpoll: http://strawpoll.me/6180771
>>24770921
Restart and take Chespin, and take Totodile as partner. You can switch between the two in dungeons
>>24770915
>Implying that Emolga is not the one fucking Virizion
>Implying Virizion keks Emolga
>>24770781
If you do stick with this, for the love of god use sprites
>>24770873
>it
literally referred to as a "she" in the game, famicom
>>24770915
>fat ass
H-how fat?
>>24770811
>This also means I can make an HTML5 version
good on you lad
>tfw when I cared about game design the main options required plugins
>got Torchic as my form
>picked Froakie as a crazy tomboy partner
>kickboxer/ninja of Team Mirage ftw>defeat Dark Matter
>feelgood times
>tomboy ninja turns out to be the reincarnation of the goddess of creation
>inadvertently picked a more symbolic name for team then I thought
>Froakie ascends to the heavens
>sad times
>currently hanging out with pop idol Sylveon and hiking bro Gabite for a while
>now earning cash to get a pass to the sand region to meet Xatu
So are Lapras passes for keeps, or are they just a one-time deal?
Some of these Pokemon have some interesting dialogue.
Since when has Fennekin shot fire out of its ears rather than it's mouth? Might ask a drawfag to draw this. Anyone else have screenshots of dialog like this, that's funny or would make a good drawthread request? I might make a little compilation of them and post it as a prompt for the drawfags.
>>24770781
So if you do manage to create a working engine, do you plan on creating your own PMD with it, or are you planning on releasing the engine itself?
>>24771006
>when has Fennekin shot fire out of its ears rather than it's mouth
that one scene in the anime introducing the starters around the prof, fennekin sneezes and its eartufts flare up iirc
>>24770921
I had a somewhat similar dilemma with Fire Emblem Awakening with the male and female Robins, and whether I should start a new save file with the opposite gender. I'd say if you're willing to invest as much, if not more, game time into Chespin, go for it.
Fire Emblem shit no one cares about:My first Awakening MU, which was male, was manly and cool, and was my avatar for my first, "fun" playthrough. I did a new "serious" playthrough with a female MU for a few reasons though: I got invested in child skill inheritance and optimal marriages, messed up in my first playthrough in respect to levelling and marriages, and felt like my MU is better off marrying a guy than Anna.It doesn't help that I'm gay as fuck.I ended up having more optimized units and a longer-played save file on my second playthrough.
>>24771004
once you buy a pass you have them for good
>>24771004
Once you buy them, they're yours forever.
>>24771004
Once you buy the passes, you get access to the regions for good.
Be comfortable in the fact that Lapras passes are much more cheaper and economical than what's to come in the future.God, why is Hawlucha more of a jew than Coffin Jew when it comes to tutor moves?
Just did a mission to beat Garchomp. Unfezant male asked for help, and Unfezant female was there helping Garchomp.Did Unfezant m. just get c.uc.led?
Does illusion do anything in particular or is it just a useless ability?
>>24771063
what a big guy
A guide in the OP suggests you throw powerups through your team using a Pokemon with both Pierce Hurler and Natural Gifter. But according to Serebii, no Pokemon can have both those IQ abilities. What gives?
>>24771072
From what I've experienced, your teammates' AI is able to tell whether or not its opponent is an Illusion'd Zoroark. Today, I almost cursed when Infernape used Double Kick on a Mismagius, but did a double take when the hit connected and it was Zoroark instead.
I dunno if this applies to your own Zorua/Zoroark, but the implications seem worrying.
>>24771063
I'm almost kind of sad Ampharos and Mawile didn't Mega Evolve to make cutscenes super-shonenbefore being left behind at the Forest of Beginnings and the Voidlands, respectively.
>>24771045
Why don't you remove the name, Emolga?
>>24771110
Serebii's flat out wrong then, since I have a Jirachi in Sky with both. Everything in IQ group B can get it. Celebi, Manaphy, Wigglytuff, and many others can get it
>>24771110
Wow, Serebii FUCKED UP that IQ chart. Turns out both those abilities belong to the B group.
>>24770781
Are you skeleton guy? From the last thread?
>>24771130
>>24771137
Well shit, I've been using his stuff for Sky for years, never suspected it was wrong.
The fact that he didn't put too much effort into the Super Mystery Dungeon articles either is worrying.
>>24771160
Bulbapedo's more accurate for pmd
>>24770949
I'd have to do a shitton of 3D modelling and messing with shaders if I went 3D, it has to be 2D, the real problem is imitating the art style or having to redo all the art
>>24771010both
>>24771150
who? I just post remixes sometimes
>>24770781
time to ask the important questionwill we finally be able to fuck partner
seriously fuck this part i almost split my 3ds in anger
>>24771211
addendum, I plan on releasing what I had finished even if I give up
>>24771219
>>24771229
Anon, Chespin is not for sexual.
>>24771241
Yes, wait until he evoles
>>24771221
what's wrong with that part
>>24770781
I think there's a few hackers trying to figure out Sky and GtI/PSMD's programing out. They kinda got portraits figured out I believe, and where the music is kept.
>>24771252
ROMhacks of that aren't going to be anything impressive.
What are your thoughts onbest principal?I kind of thought he'd have a bigger role.
>>24771264
The voice I read his text in will always be Mr. Smalls.
>>24771264
I'm glad Amp ended up being the game's guildmaster over Simipour
>>24771264
I keep getting conflicting reports on whether or not Simipour's actually a she or a he.
Either way,he'spretty cool, but there's nothing more to mention of him other than that he'd fit better in a high school philosophy class.
>>24770978
Come on, senpai, don't make me fap to virizion. That's a step away from ponies.
>>24771286
Same, even if he never was the mega evolve mechanic unveil like I was hoping for.
>>24771211
I see. Well, if/when you get to making the game, I beg you...
Please please PLEASE don't make it to where Pokémon can only evolve after beating the final boss.Some non-starter player/partner Pokémon would be nice, as well. Cubone, Eevee, Machop, Meowth... We miss 'em.
>>24771264
Watchog is better.
>>24771221
Over the sheer ridiculousness of it, or the fact that it had so much build up only to take a steep roller coaster plunge?
>>24771295
deer are fair game
just ask deerling
>>24771300
Yeah I was hoping for that too, but pic related was easily good enough
>>24771304
Personally, I prefer how the game prevents evolution until the end
>battle mission
>cheese the fuck out of it with perish song
>>24771304
>>24771316
There's also the problem of portrait art...
>>24771295
No one is forcing you, well your dick might
>>24771320
>battle mission
>petrify the target(s)
>get HUGE with Nasty Plot/Swords Dance
>proceed to tear the target(s) a new anus with an Alliance
>>24771320
>battle mission
>Discharge+Earth Power combo them into kill
>>24771319
I never realized that he had to catch everyone else who jumped.
Poor Ampharos.
>>24771320
Ain't so hot if you're on the receiving end of a Perish Song.
Seriously, there should be a way to escape it besides carrying now-rare Heal Seeds. I hate losing a few Reviver Seeds just because I missed a few attacks on a low-levelled Politoed with PS.
>>24771325
I'm sure there's a way to rip them from PSMD. If not, an artist could probably still trace them.
>>24771345
It really should have dropped you to 1hp instead, like how Memento doesn't kill the user
>>24771345
refresh
>>24771345
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Aromatherapy, too. It's still a BS move, though.>3rd trees captcha in a row
>>24771351
The emotions in the portrait art, I mean. Some evolutions might end up just having the same blank face.
I fucked up, please help me. I got gang raped in a monster house.
>>24771361
>go in with motivated team
>no Refresh
>>24771362
The game did a pretty good job giving all the Pokémon several different emotions already in their respective portraits; even the ones that aren't related to the story. If all else fails, someone could draw additional emotions for Pokémon that need them in in a similar art style, or just redo the portraits for one specific Pokémon in a different style.
>>24771361
Ehhhhhhh
One one hand, I think it's somewhat inefficient to carry a specific move for one specific scenario, and expecting at least one member to learn it on every team.
On the other hand, it would solve my problems with paralysis and sleep pretty easily too.
>>24771375
>one pokemon
>in a different style
I can't wait for everything to have conflicting art styles
>>24771377
its like a cleanse square but doesent remove buffs
sylveon is the earliest one to learn it
>>24771365
>>24771365
>>24771365
Anybody?
>>24771375
it's not terribly difficult to mimic the style in Explorers. SMD would be a little more difficult but still doable when they get ripped.
>>24771406
what dungeon you on bruh
>>24771418
Spiral vortex, water dungeon
>>24771375
YES. For the love of god, yes. The lack of unique portraits/animations is what turned me off of evolving.
Anyone know if the speed boost in PSMD also buffs the speed stat?
>>24771557
I don't believe it does, I think it just ups movement speed by a stage.
>>24771557
Yes after a certain amount of steps. Movement speed.
>>24771577
Huh?
>>24771583
Every ~250 turns movement speed is boosted (PSMD)
>>24771594
That's odd. I don't think that's related to moves like Agility though, which is what I was trying to figure out.
Just slowly figuring out how to build a proper framework for everything. From there it would just be entering data, which makes everything much faster.
this game made me realize I want to fuck Deerling.
What's a good way of leveling weak mons in Explorers of Sky?
>>24771437
>>24771413
>>24771375
>>24771383
Took a look at the Sky sprites. They have their fair share of inconsistencies, but they manage to make them look like they belong in the same game. As long as you don't take in legit crazy shit artists who advertise their involvement in making portraits, and have a reasonable Quality Control process, you should be good.
That is, IF anybody or any group is willing to take the time to make this shit in two years or more. Fatigue sets in, everybody has irl shit, etc.
Also, looking at the Sky portraits, I don't remember Mawile, along with other mons, being relevant enough to have expressions.
>>24771618
Oh, here's the link to the portraits if anybody's curious:
http://imgur.com/0RPsYoS
Should be worth noting that some portraits are really pixelly while others are fairly saturated (and thus might actually feel more at home in the Fates/Super art style), which is pretty indicative that multiple artists worked on this (with 500+ formes of Pokemon I wouldn't blame em)
>>24771609
Also, I'm considering removing the speed stat altogether, because there are other mechanics like turn ordering I'd have to account for, and it's a little annoying using slow Pokemon. What do you guys think?
Do speed looplets increase movement speed or stat speed
>>24771657
I have heard it affects Accuracy. Tailwind etc specifically boost Movement though,
>>24771648
I'd prefer putting normally slow Pokemon (like Rhyperior) on an equal ground to fast mons (like Shaymin-S) so people aren't frustrated with their favs in that respect.
I think it was the same as before in the Rescue + Sky games, so it won't be unfamiliar.
>>24771676
Sky Form Shaymin moved at permanent double speed in Sky, though.
>>24771676
I know, I've played every single Mystery Dungeon game. I just intended on trying to keep the mechanics from PSMD, especially emeras and holding L to see/select your moves.
>>24771685
Ah, right, wrong comparison. I'm surprised I forgot that considering it's the most broken mon in my save file.
Electrode/Jolteon/whatever fast mon for the sake of comparison. I think it would also be good if stuff like Agility only affects movement speed, not actual attacking turns (making it a bit broken in Sky).
>>24771698
Yeah, I definitely intended on attacking just ending your turn, no matter how high your speed is boosted.
>>24771698
I agree. Arceus help you if you ran into a Monster House in Sky and at least one of them had Agility.
Sadistic fucks, some of these programmers.
uhh so if i bring 3 motivated pokemons the rest of my friends will get double reserve exp?
>sand spiral dungeon
>that music from rescue returns
Holy shit.
>>24771747
Yes. If all your active team members are motivated, your entire roster gets the double bonus.
>Out of Reviver Seeds
>Kecleon never stocks more
>>24771758
You know what you must do, anon.
>>24771756
alright, which dungeons are good or exp grinding? the mist and sand dungeons maybe?
>>24771765I seriously would... If I weren't playing Sky
>>24771767
Mysterious Geoglyph. Bring Heat Wave or lots of lube.
>>24771609
I don't understand how programming works. All those texts and executions.
should i eat my golden apple?
>>24770896
i'm pretty sure there are parameters like how big rooms/floors are, separation and such
and then there's this floor layout that happens a lot in Sky Tower in RT i believe
as well as Silver Trench's floor-wide rooms
>>24771767
Once you unlock the Mysterious Geoglyph and have beaten it once, do the following:
-Bring a team consisting of: One Sunny Day setter (Cherrim preferred for Flower Gift boosts and Morning Sun, Fennekin line can also provide), and two teammates with either Heat Wave or Sacred Fire.
-Bring lots of Apples and Elixers because you're gonna camp on one floor for a while.
-Rush through all the floors at Mysterious Geoglyph until you reach floor 8.
-Stay on Floor 8 and spam sun-boosted Heat Waves and Sacred Fires for as long as possible before you have to leave the dungeon.
This is my main way of getting EXP on days where I get crappy motivated Pokemon or no motivated Pokemon at all.
>>24771802
all programming is a fairly simple "if x, then do y" or simply "do y" structure
it's just a matter of learning the grammar and syntax
in that image I'm setting up how the engine handles turns between Pokemon, it's a bit challenging to figure out how everyone takes their movement at the same time but I think I've got it
is the looplet that helps find sparkling floors worth the ten gold bars?
>>24771819
I didn't think it was all at the same time, but a pre-determined order with maybe a single frame of delay between each Pokemon's movement (unless they're using moves)
>>24771809
Sky Tower Summit's structures had a few more rooms than that but the layout scheme was the same. There are definitely a lot of different ways floors are generated, but there's some single underlying method where rooms never overlap - I can think of a few ways the rooms are placed, but corridors are gonna be the real challenge for me
>>24771820
Honestly, gold bars are so easy to find casually that it's usually not worth it.
Heh, imagine that. Having to spend Jew Bars for a device that helps you find Jew Bars.
>>24771320
>battle mission
>petrify opponent
>lock-on + sheer cold combo on smeargle kills instantly
bonus on the fact that smeargle doesn't go on break often
>>24771827
I want to eliminate that delayit really annoyed me in Explorers of Sky, but I still have to process the movement sequentially to avoid the AI stepping on top of other Pokemon by accident, which shouldn't be too much of a problem, specially working on much stronger hardware than a DS or 3DS
>>24771836
Do OHKO moves work on bosses?
>>24771831
Gotta spend big to win big.
Excavation Looplets only really make a difference in situations/dungeons where it'd be far beneficial to your survival to pick a more hardy looplet like the ones in the Treasures list. At least in my experience.
>>24771843
Don't you need to be higher level than them?
>>24771843
nah, stuff like HP-Swap Wand, Quarter Wand, Endeavor, Sheer Cold etc doesn't work at all on bosses.
Locked-on OHKO moves is guaranteed to hit no matter what.
unless your target is an end-dungeon boss
I am not a responsible adult.
>>24771858
>Snivy
I'm sorry.
>>24771870
I've gone with Treecko one too many times and I like Serperior more than Chesnaught
Is there some future terror awaiting me a la Poliwrath River?
>>24771876
Snivy just has a limited movepool compared to other starters.
At least it's not Chikorita.
>>24771870
Exactly what's so bad about Snivy?
how can i nickname other pokemon? and if i cant, then why the fuck not?
>>24771891
Can't, and "because".
>>24771888
Enjoy your Energy Ball and... Energy Ball.
When so i know a pokemon can learn a move? Is there a chart?
>>24771879
Does he at least get more Dragon type moves?
Does the HP-Swap wand work on postgame-bosses? I doubt it, just figured I'd ask in case I could use it just for fun.
>>24771906
Quick way to see is to go to the Mewtwo or Reshiram/Zekrom battle dungeons, and trying it out.
Speaking of which, I'm both amazed and legitimately horrified at how effective (too effective) the Memento spam strategy is on legendary bosses. Once you're done, they're only doing 1 damage to you.
>>24771309
Not him, but both.
I was just thinking "this is silly" the whole time.
>>24771911
I have Mewtwo, and I'm not a high enough rank to get the Zekrom/Reshi dungeon. Ah well, guess I'll try it on Giratina or something once I get down there.
>>24771905
Nope, and unless you're willing to either evolve post-game or work with expensive tutor options like Iron Tail and Aqua Tail, you're stuck with mostly normal- and grass-type moves with situational support attacks.
>>24771904
check ORAS learnset
>>24771906
it doesn't, unfortunately
>>24771911
what does Memento do again?
>>24771932
>what does Memento do again?
Drastically drops the Attack and Sp. Attack of all enemies in the room, while also cutting the user's HP to 1 and warping them.
Since boss fights tend to take place in a single room...
>>24771932
Memento significantly decreases both the Attack and Special Attack of your targets at the cost of 99% of your health. Once you're done, you teleport somewhere else.
Just get three Pokemon with Memento, do an Alliance attack with all three using it, and the battle becomes a laughingstock at the cost of a few Reviver Seeds or Oran Berries.
>>24771927
A-At least it gets Coil, right?
>Heliolisk
>razor wind spam
why is this allowed?
>>24771952
To convince players that they can't just grind their way through this game and have to rely on items like Sleep or Petrify Wands occasionally.Yes, I fucking hate them too, anon, but not as much as future roadblocks
>>24771952
>Spawn in the buttfuck middle of a large room
>Heliolisk all the way next to an exit
>Approximately 11 tiles away
![tumblr_nyv9uoyo4Z1uh3x51o1_540[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/m5w37VK.jpg "tumblr nyv9uoyo4Z1uh3x51o1 540[1]")
more reason why you shouldn't evolve recruits unless super absolutely necessary
>>24772018
>evolving
Which ones give me rainbow tms?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/160809-pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon/cheats
And are those all the tms?
>>24772018
Oh my god
>>24772023
not him, but greninjas overworld model is pretty great
>3 excessive force on 3 room-clear spammer
>>24772018
>ninetales going through a crisis and imagining that she's younger than she is
>Decide to roll Riolu for replay because no one talks about him
>Learn Counter
>Abuse Counter
>Sheer Mountain Range
>See a Swablu sleeping
>Use Counter to counter its Peck before waking it up
>It uses Furry Attack
>Mfw countering every single hit
>For the exact amount of damage
Riolu's fucking great
So is Arceus a normal size pokemon (not gigantic) or should I just stop playing now?
>>24772018
Was clearly happy as a vulpix you sick fuck
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLmmYmk4b6eBRmrc_vrpno1wGFz-GivkeY&v=Awp6UbmvNQc
>>24772076
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F_DXeT3SGV4
Oh fuck yes!
Damn, so way way later post game there is a dungeon on grass continent that's nearly a full stop for getting past. It's 39 floors, you can only bring 1 Pokemon, start at level 5, and you can't bring any money or items.
I don't even know where to begin. From my experience so far you either have to get very lucky with finding items/Emera, or there is some Pokemon I'm not aware of that has a good ability/move combo at level 5, since all the moves revert to that low so you usually end up with Tackle/Growl for a lot of them.
Anyone manage to complete this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=otHZelcycs4
>>24772088
In the Rescue Team games, I cleared one of the 99 floor level 1 dungeons with just Alakazam.
I just used Teleport to cheese around.
>>24772088
Just try pokemon with better starting moves. For example, Charizard starts with heat wave.
This game was literally secret of mana, tales_of_symphonia, and Gurren Lagann in the mix.
>>24772098
felt like ff5 to me
>>24772095
They've nerfed Teleport's PP since then, so it's a bit more difficult to do that.
>>24772095
Hah! That is an intriguing strategy, might have to try that.
>>24772096
That's what I've been doing but it only takes you so far.
I've heard Keldeo might be good, staring with Aqua Jet and then learning Double Kick shortly after.
>>24772100
Ah yes,the void.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SyhXIduqRT4
>>24772101
Do you really need to get out of bad situations more than 8 times per elixir, though?
If the new ones are only 40 floors, it's not going to be nearly as hard as it used to be.
>>24772105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgAEVaAuuoE
Some themes reminded me of fire emblem
>You'll never save the world.
>>24771891
>Thanks for helping me out back there, bud. If you and your little expedition friend need a hand exploring feel free to call me!
>sweet your name's ShadowXBlaze99 now
>>24772121
>you'll never wake up as a creature equal to your qualities
>you'll never live in a simpler, less sinful world
>you'll never have a partner who'll literally live and die for you
>>24771325
>>24771351
>>24771413
I've actually worked on a few sprites and portraits in my spare time.
Here's two WIPs of Espurr's and Oshawott's basic portraits (in EoS style because I liked it a lot).
Oh, those were soundfonts I've been posting. I thought it was in game.
>>24772138
You're getting there
The outlines are slightly thicker than that, I think, and a bit blurred on the very edges (anti-aliasing)
Hey. Were you having a good day today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkgaIrPEyPk
NOT ANYMORE YA AREN'T
>>24772137
>less sinful world
Bro, if it was less sinful,this game's plot, as well as Gates' plot, would have never happened
>watch charmander jump those rocks falling from the sky and your partners shooting him up at the sky.
where do i find waifu meowstic?
>>24772158
Need to connect with Blissey to get to her.
>that dark matter boss theme.
>>24772166
thanks anon
>>24772176
Which one?
>>24772146
>Restart the game to replay it for fun
>Go through all the massive tutorial with Nuzleaf
>Finally get to the title part
>Mfw the partner tune plays
>Mfw the tree in the background
>just beat main story
>realize I don't like the pokemon i chose for my MC or partner at all
How long is the post game? If it bothers me a lot is it worth redoing it now before I get too deep? I should mention that I didn't enjoy the actual story at all so if I replay it's purely going to be a grind back to where I am now.
>>24772238
Do you dislike their current forms or all of their line? If you go to the Tree from Lapras you should be able to evolve to at least their middle stages now
>>24772144
The outlines aren't really thick, the anti-aliasing makes it appear like that (though not all of the outline is anti-aliased).
anyone know how to get the mission from blissey?
>>24772241
I do like their evolved forms but they don't gain any new abilities or types. I'll give it a shot later and see how I feel after. I heard you lose the sleeping animations each day, is that it?
>>24772264
Yeah. They won't be shown waking up each morning anymore but partner retains his personality and all, and you still get nightly dinner with the guild
>>24772254
Blissey is a traveling Pokemon.
>>24772273
FUCK
>>24771264
Simpour > Audino > Farfetch'd > Watchdog
They were all pretty good though.
>>24772288
>Watchog that low
For real nigga? Farfetch'd and Audino barely had any presence.
>>24770781
Copied from previous thread:
Blue, Sky, and an emulator: https://mega.co.nz/#!6E8xWSzB!2TQy6qzEfI3qPxL3a2JJ9l7Wn6KXwHKxKxepMs3RIck
/vp/'s Sky guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-
Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA
Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ
Oh, and link to old thread: >>24766703
>>24770781
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what are some 'mons that are worth using a lucha token on?
>Get back the Popular Ribbon or whatever
>Petrify everyone
>banf bang Hydro Pump, Basculin dies
>Goldeen steals it one square away from me
OK fuckers. You want to play? Let's play your game and make sure you bleed next time as I have your family for Saturday dinner.
>>24772378
Cinccino, for the love of god, CINCCINO.
So I have a Motivated Unown and the game tells me that's a very high EXP boost.
Is the Double EXP for taking only it enough? Or is the passive EXP gain for everyone else for using all 3 motivated pokemon worth taking Snover and Mudkip as well?
>>24772385
Basically having Unown doubles your EXP output.
Your motivated Pokemon gain 6x EXP, and using all your Motivated Pokemon (Unown included) means your entire roster gets 6x EXP.
>>24772388
Okay, so I should find a way to use Snover without his ability hurting everyone else on my team.
>>24772416
Try Weather Looplets. I always pack one or two of those when I get a motivated team with fucking Sand Stream or Snow Warning.
I've never played a Mystery Dungeon game in my life but I saw the commercial on TV advertising that all Pokémon are available and that is a huge plus for me. Should I get this game or is it not that good? Thanks!
>>24772421
It's great, hard as balls and has some pacing issues at the start with the serene village I guess.
>>24772421
I'd suggest download an emulator and try Blue Rescue Team (3rd gen) or Explorers of Sky (4th gen) first since you can get them for free. They'll help you get a feel on what to expect since they're not only more difficult than the main series, but also a bit more story-focused.
But if you like those two, then go ahead and get SMD. Some will argue it's the best Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game.
Has anyone ripped the profile icons yet?
>>24771063
>TELL ME ABOUT NUZLEAF, WHY DOES HE WORK FOR DARK MATTER
>>24772435
not yet but probably we're close
http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?46904-Pokemon-Super-Mystery-Dungeon-And-PMD-GTI-Research-And-Utilities&p=208489&viewfull=1#post208489
>>24772435
Not yet anon. I've been trying. I can extract damn near every other file but the one containing the face graphics is giving me a fuck load of trouble.
are there any recommended levels for each dungeon and/or continents? so far i know that water is for 10-20 and grass is for 25-30 but i'm not really sure
australian here, is SMD playable on flashcards yet? any place to get the rom if so?
Wow. Chunsoft was so anal about the gender differences that they have separate models for male and female Torchics even though the difference is so minor and literally impossible to ever see in game.
>Trying to fight yveltal with no revive seeds.
>>24772558
Woah hey can you maybe put together a dump of what all of the evolved starter's models look like?
>>24772535
indonesian here, yes you can get them from lots of sites
>>24772574
I would, but you can easily find out what they look like by finding them around the towns. Also none of the files I have are named anything useful making finding any specific Pokemon a massive pain.
If I come across them as I go through the models I will.
>>24772559
>fighting yveltal with blaziken and chesnaught
>>24772579
Dang, thanks anyway.
I mostly just want to see if Grovyle looks good or not.
>>24772579
these are put through ohana3DS right? is there anywhere to get the decrypted files?
>>24772605
>these are put through ohana3DS right?
Yeah. but you will have to extract pokemon_graphic.bin before you can do anything, which is a pain.
>is there anywhere to get the decrypted files?
I grabbed a pre-decrypted .cia off of 3DSISO and extracted the files myself.
>whiscash can learn magnitude, earthquake, surf,and muddy water
just finished the game but still a newbie when it comes to team-making
can anyone recommend me some good team setups? Super Mystery Dungeon
i heard that room-clearing moves are great and i made a team with Rotom, Golurk,and Charizard but i hate the way they go to breaks every mission
Just heading to the ruins with beheyeem, how long until the end of the game? I don't want to reach the final boss unprepared
Someone poated 2 threads ago Chesnaught was connected to Machamp. Where is this said, how and why?
>>24771615
Get a Miracle Chest, found in 96-97f of zero isle south OR randomly through a Big Win in the Cafe.
Go into a hard dungeon with Eyedrop Seeds/Goggle Specs and look for a Pokemon Trap. Throw a ton of Geo Pebbles/Sticks in the room, trip the trap, and use a room clearing move THAT IS LINKED. It HAS to be a linked move, so you get bonus Exp.
Or you can get a mon with Nature gifter, do Golden Chamber missions until you get a Golden Seed, and eat it to give everyone 5 levels.
>>24772088
Try out Drifblim. It gets 5 different starting moves, so one wont be there. Starting moves are Constrict/Gust/Astonish/Minimize/Shadow Force.
With Unburden, each move activates twice per use, but uses only 1pp. This means +4 Minimizes and insta use Shadow Force. You can't hold items while doing this, but you can keep using Emeras aside from that.
>>24773067
I recruited him by just talking to him
>>24773100
Wait. Fix your pronouns please. Him who?
hat happened to the "DLC" songs from previous games that were in the ost rip? I remember there were 24 songs in total and I assumed that they were just included in the sound player but none of the songs are there.
how do i turn shaymin into sky forme?
>>24773241
It'll ask you what form you want when you enter q dungeon
Visitor missions are give me trust issues
>>24772559
>not just grinding for some more Reviver Seeds at Pelipper Island
I swear, it's as if people don't look at the main menu at all
>Doing Togetic mission
>In the room with Togetic's item
>Shifrty uses whirlwind and knocks Togetic into the wall doing 5 damage
>Togetic faints. From being hit for 5 damage. In the room with it's item.
There was a sparkle spot with a Tiny reviver seed in the same room and it warped to another spot in the same room but getting KO'd by 5 fucking damage? Even Shedinja survives harder hits. Togetic had to have been hit by something before that but I don't know it could've been. I made sure to keep it safe. The one time I got separated from the team it was blocked in the room
>>24773317
are you sure rthey didnt get hit by something else earlier? I've had escorted mons die from weather floors eventually.
>>24773331
It must have been hit by something sometime, I just don't know when or what. Thinking back, there was something that got KO'd when the team was blocked in the starter room after I was warped. That was probably when it got hit.
>the only rainbow tm's i've been able to steal are weather tm's
I have like 3 Rain Dance rainbow TM's now
>>24773356
I stole a rainbow dazzling gleam and then got it as a rank up reward 10 minutes later
Got some questions.
I'm playing with a Mudkip starter and a few days ago I had asked for general party recommendations. Someone had advised me to use Rotom(-Heat?) and Shedinja. Since then, I've realized there are several different Rotom types (I know next to fuckall about Pokemon past R/S/E) so which one should I be specifically using? And also any advice about the Shedinja would be nice. I honestly have no idea what a good moveset would be or anything like that.
Also while going through a dungeon, I don't know what caused it but my Shedinja somehow had 18/18hp. Could someone tell me what did that or how it occurred?
Lastly, I have not gotten my Partner back yet but it is a Chimchar. Is that worth incorporating into my main party? I'm not too worried about hardcore min/max but I'd like my members to be efficient, at the very least.
>>24773364
Shedinja has more HP than the main games. It CAN be increased with Sitrus Berries, so you can see why this can be brokenly good.
As for Chimchar, it can probably learn Heat Wave from tutoring, which is always good.
>>24773372
Well, I haven't really checked but does Shedinja normally have 18 max hp? That sounds incredibly handicapped and harmful.
I think the person who recommended Rotom to me mentioned Heat Wave but I don't really remember. But if Chimchar can learn Heat Wave then I may as well stick with Chimchar then?
>Having an exploration mission and a locked door mission in the same dungeon
>>24773389
In RSE it had 1hp. The idea being it's immune to every non supereffective attack. You can boost the HP in pmd, while keeping the amazing ability.
Rotom-Heat can learn Heat Wave/Discharge/Ominous Wind, all good room hitting attacks.
>>24773372
how do i get the tutor?
>>24773401
Hawlucha is the move tutor in the postgame. You have to select "Learn"
>>24773400
Ah okay. Yeah I don't know anything about Shedinja and don't remember a lot of specific Pokemon from R/S/E either, if that wasn't obvious, lel.
Okay so having such low hp is offset by Wonder Guard so that makes sense at least. Do you think I should keep Shedinja in my party then and use him throughout the game?
How can I tell which Rotom is the 'Heat' Rotom? Will one have a Fire ability? I only have three Rotoms recruited so far and been using the Electric one for now.
>>24773414
All Rotom are Electric type. Look for the Electric/Fire one that looks like an oven of sorts.
Use Shedinja if you want, it won't be available all the time though.
>>24773425
Okay. Will do.
Who would you advise I use instead of Shedinja then? And wouldn't eventually using Chimchar render the point of using Rotom pointless? So I'd eventually end up going Chimchar + ???
Do I have to unlock the excavation looplet for purchase somehow? Can't find it in Cofag's shop.
What were all the room-sweeping moves that don't hurt teammates without type immunities?
>>24773448
Most special ones don't. I can only think of surf that does?
>>24773433
Theres a place you can grind with room hitting moves. Heat Wave is the best for this, so having two Heat Wave users is good for that.
>>24772336
It's not ready for sharing, but eventually I will
>>24773457
Ah okay. Wasn't sure if having two Fire-types would majorly fuck me or something.
>>24773464
In postgame you'll be using many different pokemon anyways, get a feel for ones you like.
>>24773445
Once you connect with Cofagrigus a new part of the shop will be open. The Excavation looplet is in the new part and costs 10 gold bars to buy
>>24773466
Why is that? Because I should be choosing Pokemon based off the dungeon, right? For better matchups and whatnot
>>24773469
Thanks!
>>24773472
Pokemon go on break apart from your starters. Really, just use your favorites, but have a backup plan for when they go on break
>>24773356
Mang, gimme somma dat.
Weather moves are surprisingly good in this game to power up attacks and replace other annoying weathers.
>>24773478
I would if there was a way to give items save for rescuing
>>24773477
I haven't really had an issue with that since I try to use Pokemon around my starter's level. I know using high-leveled mons will make them go on break for ages.
>>24773472
You'll be constantly using teams of three motivated mons so the rest of your roster gets that exp. Therefore, you'll be making a lot of trips to Hawlucha so he can make them remember better moves.
And yea while some dungeons are reliant on matchups, once your mons get to a high enough level and stats, that won't be too much of a problem.
>>24773484
My Nidorina goes on break fairly regularly and she's lower level than either of my starters. I also use Ampharos but sometimes they're both on break at the same time and I don't have a mon for those instances yet.
Can someone please rescue me on Blue Rescue Team? I lost to a monster house.
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>>24773494
What dungeon? I'll get right on it either way
>>24773490
>she's
>>24773506
nidorina is a girl in my headcanon anon please stop bullying me
>>24773487
I wasn't the one who asked about Hawlucha but I've been trying to do that anyway when I use different Pokemon.
Okay. I'll try to remember which dungeons have which types, or which Continents, either way.
>>24773490
Really? Huh. Alright then. Will pay more attention and try to remain cautious.
>>24773503
It's the Howling Forest.
>>24773524
I don't need a reward, good luck!
ok so i reached yveltal and i have no more revive seed because i didn't think i'd have to run like 3 dungeon all at once without being able to talk to Cofagrigus ever again
how fucked i am and what's the best way to deal with this fight? petrify orb barely buy any turn, i have a few ban seed, staves of any kind (including truan since i remember someone saying that would be helpful even though i'm not sure what it exactly does) and a progress device+ to save the floor before the boss
Seriously, what are the levels for those legendary dungeons?
I'm done the main storyline and now hunting down legendaries and RAIKOU and Isle of Light is so fucking hard even if my team is with lvl 56 mons
How do I get through these hard ass dungeons? Regular enemy mons keep fucking killing me!
>>24773550
Truant first round, after that if Yveltal uses Oblivion Wing, Ban Seed it.
>>24773560
Vitamins from Coffin go a long way.
>>24773566
You talking about Protein, Carbos, etc? Feed that to my main character and partner like crazy?
I'm heading to mysterious jungle with my Snivy. Lv 27 and no stat boosts or vitamins. How fucked am I?
Also, does my partner level up while they're gone, or am I going to have a five or so level difference when I get it back?
is there a move guide for pokemon super mystery dungeon online?
>>24773577
as long as you packed enough reviver seeds youll be fine. therell be a 4-5 level gap in the end. enjoy venomoth :)
I'm at Lv. 23 in Reversal Mountain
Am I underleveled?
>>24773587
it uses the ORAS movelists if that's what you mean
>>24773593
You're fine. It's not like you can grind anyway
>>24773591
Thanks, I have 13 RS, should maybe be fine.
Still not sure about the partner level though
>>24773560
Believe it or not, your Pokemon's levels don't actually contribute to their performance in battles aside from having a long list of remembered moves.
Your raw stats (attack, defense, etc) determine how well you take hits and dish out hits back, so roiding your mons with Vitamins is a particularly good investment if you got enough Jew bars. So, you can have a level 40 Wooper or something that performs better in dungeon than your level 100 Arceus because you roided up that Wooper.
>>24773566
but what the fuck does truant do? i understand it change yveltal ability but is yveltal ability dangerous to begin with? does truant fuck up with the enemy in any other way?
>>24773577
Your partner will suffer a small level difference, but that's not a big deal once you can actually grind.
And Vitamins are cheap enough, buy them. If you need a little insurance, bring Hoopa's lamp with you and make him forget Ally Switch at Hawlucha's.
>>24773594
cool thank you
>>24773587
Don't think so, but that kind of thing is what I'll need once the basic framework is in place
Movesets by level-up, tutor, etcetera (and if there are any differences from OR/AS)
How stat increases on level-up are calculated (or if it's just a lookup table)
How much stat boosts buff your stats
How damage is calculated, how hit chances are calculated w/ the move accuracy & evasiveness boosts/debuffs
blah blah blah
Not sure I want to do that much data entry but I'm sure there are some anons with enough free time when the time comes
>>24773566
How can you get the gold bars for that?
>>24773550
Go to the main menu, select Pelipper Island, and collect Reviver Seeds by using your other Pokemon in other dungeons. It gets transferred to your save file.
>>24773614
you're doing god's work anon
>>24773606
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Truant_(Ability)
>>24773544
Thank you very much, anon!
Hopefully my copy of PSMD arrives soon.;_;
>Frogadier used Fling
>Frogadier threw the Apple
>Entei's Belly was somewhat filled.
>Entei used Sacred Fire
>>24773614
Level Up stats seem to be a lookup table since some Pokemon in the same family obtained at the same time have identical stats. Florges, Floette, and Flabebe at level 100 all had the same stats as I leveled up my other mons.
>>24773576
Yes. Get the water looplet first if you can.
>>24773606
Makes Yveltal a brick every other turn.
>>24773616
Just run dungeons over and over looking for sparkly tiles, or rank up.
>>24773638
It could also be calculated based on certain rules, though, which would also give the same results even for different Pokemon.
>>24773643
Why water looplet?
>>24773621
oh, that's a good idea, think i will do that before trying the fight again
>>24773643
dang i had this thing in my inventory and i never used it until now? i'm fucking dumb
how do you get hoopa unbound?
>>24773661
Do you have Hoopa Confined?
>>24773659
When you equip the water looplet and throw a vitamin at your party it will pierce and use the item effect at the same time.
So pretty much you throw an iron at two team members in a line and they both get the +2 def permanent boost.
>>24773660
Truant wand works for all bosses too, and they don't shake it off since it isn't considered a status effect. Good to keep them on you at all times; especially if you're a fire/water starter.
>>24773661
Hoopa will take random form when you release him from the bottle upon entering the dungeon.
>>24773661
Use the Lamp obtained at the Sand Continent town, and when you summon Hoopa, it has a chance of being in its Unbound forme. Keep in mind that it's only functional as a guest party member, but can be levelled up and shit like that.
>get toM-Rayquaza
>make Chespin use Rollout
>Petrify Power Emera petrifies it multiple times
>they can't do anything at all
>>24773674
>>24773678
>>24773675
ugh. why did they do this mechanic?
>>24773685
Because he's a trickster to begin with. Sometimes when you go up floors in the dungeon Hoopa will return to the bottle and you can summon again for another chance at getting the other form.
>>24773698
will hoopa always return to the bottle even when knocked out?
is there no way to unlock hidden abilities?
>>24773703
No, it's like an escort guest. Hoopa will require a reviver seed or revive all orb.
Only time Hoopa will return to the bottle is when you go up a floor/reobtain the bottle,
>>24773714
lame
>>24773729
>>24773729
>>24773729
>>24773729
NEW THREAD
>>24773675
Does that Water Looplet Trick work with other items? Like Mega Donuts or Golden Apples?
>>24773741
works with everything
>go fight Darkrai
>don't find a single Sleep Guard emera
>Darkrai used Nightmare!
>Darkrai used Dark Void!
>Darkrai used Nightmare!I know I could have brought a Chesto Berry or two, but I thought Reviver Seeds were more important.
>>24773995
>forgot pic
>>24770896
Werster knows all
Watch his BRT speedruns
>>24773601
Leveling up certainly does affect your performance, especially the speed stat.
It's just vitamins are faster and more readily available. Hence why in the beginning the Salamence you get wrecks so much, not really because it's Salamence, but the stats it accumulated from 50 levels.
>>24774002
I brought a Pokemon that had Worry Seed for my other two party members, worked great.
