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Best character edition. Old thread >>24759312
Blue, Sky, and an emulator: https://mega.co.nz/#!6E8xWSzB!2TQy6qzEfI3qPxL3a2JJ9l7Wn6KXwHKxKxepMs3RIck
/vp/'s Sky guides: http://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
PSMD Wondermail codes: http://www.cpokemon.com/2015/11/24/todas-las-contrasenas-wonder-mail-
Super Mystery Dungeon FAQ: http://pastebin.com/aY45shVA
Super Mystery Dungeon Treasure List + Locations: http://pastebin.com/1xsZmqgJ
Side Topic: Aside from your starters, who is your one go-to mon?
>>24766703
First for woke up as soon as this thread was made
>ditto confuses guest
>realize that guest is going to kill everyone in my party
>can't toggle his moves off
>try to slumber wand him
>doesn't work and he oneshots everyone in the room
It really seems like this excavation looplet does nothing. Bounce or aerial ace?
>>24766775
It takes awhile for it to pay off, but you won't see gold sparkles on the floor without it.
Aerial Ace, since more mons can learn it
>>24766779
Gold sparkles? What do those do, and where do I find them?
>>24766791
Gold sparkles have vitamins, sitrus berries, Joy Seeds, more gold, that sort of thing. They're only visible when the leader holds the Excavation Looplet. Harder dungeons can have them more often
>>24766799
>They're only visible when the leader holds the Excavation Looplet
they are different from regular sparkles?
I'm thinking about getting into the series, should I start from the beginning or just play SMD?
>>24766810
Correct, if you switch to a partner they won't see them.
>>24766817
I suggest playing either Rescue Team or Sky to get a feel for the game first.
>>24766770
>hypno used trick
>hypno accquired weather looplet
>full emeras
>payback emera activates
it's a fucking tutor move why does it have it
>>24766817
skip Rescue Team because it's honestly pretty mediocre, play Explorers and don't come back until you finish it, then maybe go SMD.
>>24766703
ending spoilers and question
i played the old ones but I didn't speak english at the time, so I ignored story/didn't finish. Wich one is relevant playing now?Does the mew+partner that fight dark matter in old times is from a past game?
>>24766826
Sky is better then Darkness out of the pair?
>>24766817
Play Blue Rescue Team and one of the Explorers games if you can. Don't worry about 100%ing the post-game, but the main stories for both are good. A lot of gameplay changes in SMD are probably going to make it hard to go back to the earlier games, so you should knock those out first. But all the stories are separate
>>24766836
wait thats not the pair, my mistake.
>>24766836
There's also Time, but Sky is basically an upgraded version of both. No need to play T/D when Sky exists.
>>24766850
what's the difference?
story?
dungeons?
mechanics?
>>24766851
Sky has
>Secret Bazaars
>Spinda's Cafe
>Special Episodes
>bonus dungeons
just to name a few
>>24766851
I know nothing about the series except the first 30 I got to play of red rescue when it first came out, so I don't know the differences except each pair of games has version exclusives.
which room-hitting moves don't hurt teammates? i only know heat wave and discharge
>>24766836
Sky is to Time/Darkness like Platinum is to Diamond/Pearl. It is objectively the definitive version.
>>24766874
Razor Wind's another one, but it has to be charged iirc. Just use fliers with your 'quakers like Tate and Liza did.
>>24766851
sky is the same as time and darkness, but has more content
>>24766878
do all flying pokemon evade EQ or does the model has to be flying?
I had a salamence take EQ damage and I don't remember it being grounded/gravity
>>24766882
All flying evade unless type bulldozer emera or roost/gravity.
>>24766882
Pretty sure it's just Flying type or Levitate, just like in the main game. Might do slight damage if you're obscenely beefed up as iirc the immunities are still imperfect.
>>24766817
Don't listen to these dudes, just play SMD. I have no idea why you would want to play earlier games.
>>24766888
because explorers was better
does the level 50 salamence that you can get early game have a downside?
does he go on long breaks or something?
>>24766893
long breaks
>>24766891
Only thing Explorers did better was the plot.
>>24766893
Long breaks, yeah. Also you can't choose your partners on story missions so he can't help you there.
>>24766888
SMD has a lot of references to the old games; if you haven't played them you'll miss a lot and the experience will be lessened. It'd also be a nice primer to the series, as SMD is sort of brutal at times, especially for newfags.
>>24766903
And none of the references mattered.
>>24766971
It's still a nice continuity nod, though it would've been nice for them to have some real value.
>>24766903
A lot of the "difficulty" stems from being used to the difficulty balance of the old systems, though. In the past we are used to relying on moves with items playing a very secondary role, in this one items play an essential combat role. A newcomer wouldn't necessarily find this all that difficult, it's just a different gameplay style.
>>24766977
i imagine a new kid that starts the game and gets oneshotted by boomerang would think it's a lot more difficult than what you'd expect from a Pokemon game.
>>24766893
No Dragon Dance.
>>24766832
>Does the mew+partner that fight dark matter in old times is from a past game?
Nope
What's the best way to clear a monster house? Totter orb and room-wide spread moves?
What do the gold sparkles around someone on the connection orb mean?
>>24767072
You'll unlock a new dungeon when you do their request
>>24767044
Both if you don't one-hit the targets. Sleep or Petrify orbs are generally better though, in case the targets have moves that hit the entire room, as they'll still hit you.
>>24767044
Just hit Grand Master rank, still working on Treasure Hunt. I'm always a bit wary of going into "Super Difficult" dungeons without my main 3 mons
I'm still a bit annoyed with Sky existing. If I knew they would release a third version I would have waited for it
>>24767093
I wonder if we'll get a Sky-like upgrade of SMD.
Is there an objective best Tactic to set for your party? I want my party to follow me around (instead of going off alone) but attack enemies once they're able to (unless they're asleep which I think stops them from auto-attacking anyway until I do.)
I've tried Let's Go Together, Follow Me, and even the Fight All Foes one but I still notice they'll derp around with me and not even always attack until I've attacked once or twice, despite being in range.
What Gold Bar TMs are good to buy for a Mudkip?
Plox rescue, anyone?
Seafloor ruins B12F.
I seriously need one. This dungeon is wrecking me.
>Going through Mysterious Geoglyph for the first time to grind exp
>Getting my shit kicked in by Techno Blast and the occasional Signal Beam
>Make it to final floor and start really raking in the exp
>Got a couple thousand exp, enough to finish evolving Braixen, 400 expedition points as well as the Sand looplet and connected with Genesect
Lost a lot of Reviver seeds but it was worth it for all the exp. I might need to get my team's Sp.Def and Sp.Att up a lot more and get Heat Wave's accuracy up before I can effectively grind there. Getting the Looplet from Raiku would help a lot too but that dungeon wrecked me even worse than the Geoglyph
>>24767141
My primary mode is Follow Me. This makes it so you'll be able to keep your party moving, despite some random enemy 20 tiles away what would be triggering attacks, but if you use an attack, even boosting move and your party members are in the same room as the enemy they will initiate an attack, assuming they are in range with the attacks they have.
Sometimes I will switch to Let's Go Together if my leader can't attack, so that way I can tactfully progress the enemy or move out of its line of fire while my partners will subdue the enemy.
>>24767202
yeah dude on my way
oh wait my file got corrupted oops :^)
So with Motivation and Unowns... Do I only need one Motivated Unown in my party for x6 exp for ALL, or do I need the Motivated Unown PLUS the other two random Motivated Pokemon as well?
>>24767202
I'll go
>>24766703
he's just so suave
My team just becameofficial explorersand just discovered thatLatios and Latias are stoned. How far into the game am I? And what kind of ride am I going to be in soon? No wipes so far, except for one time when I ran out of food and forced to use an escape orb.
> based Hydreigon didn't make the cut
>>24767312
The motivated Unown provides a x2 bonus, while all three provide a x3 in addition to the x2 from Unown. So you could take the Unown and two of your more useful Pokemon to a preferred dungeon while maintaining the x2 bonus.
>>24767341
So taking the Unown and a 'regular' party would just be double exp? That's fine; just wanted to get the specifics.
>>24767332
good god those lopunny hips
>>24767330
You're not that far but shit is about to hit the fan
>>24767150
Please respond.
>>24767406
Ice beam
When can I do a connection orb mission for Sewaddle?
>>24767202
this guy here >>24767318 I did it but I'm not sure if there is a way too save/post a screenshot from the 3DS...are you alright with writing the password?
>>24767414
Alright boss, thanks.
Oh fuck me, I just did the entei dungeon expecting to have to fight the fucker again, I wasted items doing this, fuck.
>>24767332
Snubbull is on there but not Hydreigon and Munna. Why? What was Snubbull even a part of? It's been years since I played RT but I don't remember it ever playing any kind of role, big or small. I couldn't remember Caterpie and Butterfree either but someone said they're from the very first mission in RT so they make some sense, but Snubbull?
Is there a point to the gold looplets other than selling them?
>>24767499
They tend to have more notches than your average looplet. Other than that, no. Eventually you'll get looplets that exceed them.
>>24767499
Doesn't seem like there is any use, other than to get cash money.
By the way, what's pelipper island's deal?
>>24767547
Seems like the excavation looplet holds about as many as a gold and helps get loot.
>>24767552
Read the FAQ listed on OP's first post.
>>24767121
I would like that if the added more content, like old towns and dungeons for example, and improved upon some of the mechanics.
jesus fucking christ that ylvetal fight is pure bullshit
I want to see explorers in 3D.
>>24766703
What is an easy to way to get Joy Seeds, other than just getting lucky with Excavation Looplet? I want to level up my MC so I can use my bros more because of that shitty Break system.
>>24767641
That fight was surprisingly easy for me,Jirachi and the mega tyranitar fights on the other hand was brutal
>>24767595
I don't see anything related to pelipper island, other than use it as a way for farming. Is that it?
>>24767699
It's where you go to rescue other players.
>>24767681
Apparently the Kecleon who spawn and attack you from stealing have a high rate of dropping Joy Seeds. But you'd need to be strong enough to down them anyway soooo. . .
>>24767735
How strong, at least?
>>24767744
The one time I fought one during the story it hit Raichu for 234 damage.
I wonder what the world of super was like when time stopped.
What's Kecleon's moveset looking like this time around?
>>24767720
Okay, thanks!
How do I evolve in PSMD?
>>24767744
>>24767754
for some retarded game coding, the game thinks kecleon is a boss monster. so using status wands or orbs will only affect it for one turn
your best bet is hitting it with truant orb and fuck up it's stat by slowing it/quicken your team
>>24767786
>for some retarded game coding
it's like the game doesn't want you stealing
Alright faggots. I bought this game because you all say it is so good. I haven't played a mystery dugeon game since the first. Is agility still broken? If not, what is the new combo/op buff move I can put on my partner. Probably picking torchic as my main.
>>24767786
actually it's pretty easy, just curse or quarter wand the fucker and you're good
and if anyone didn't know already, decoy seeds fucking last forever
>>24767786
>for some retarded game coding, the game thinks kecleon is a boss monster
it's meant to be that way, has been since the first game
>>24767794
>Is agility still broken?
Speed buffs such as Agility only increase Travel Speed now, so no.
Should I evolve me and my partner as soon as possible?
>>24767831
Evolution is only good for movepool/ability/type/appearance changes. If none of those apply to you, I wouldn't bother.
Apple land or whatever is on the mist continent right? Any particular mission unlock it? I need apples.
>>24767831
There's no stat boost but if you don't mind losing the sleep animation then go for it. Personally I don't see why the sleep animation is such a deal breaker for so many people. I'd rather have a wider movepool, more STAB and resistances and possibly a better ability. You know, things that can actually help in the gameplay as opposed to a short, pointless animation.
what level are you supposed to be at for some of these post-game dungeons? I couldn't do a thing at the Isle of Light
>>24767875
Super Apple Forest is unlocked by connecting with Ledian. I think it is on the Mist continent, but it *might* be the Grass continent.
>>24767766
Off the top of my head, they know Psybeam and (maybe) Night Slash.
>>24767882
Stats are what really matter. Even after some vitamin boosts (My stats are still under 100) I couldn't make it far in the Isle of Light either
>>24767823
Fug. What's a good partner that buffs you then? Or maybe a status inducer?
>>24767943
Multi-hit moves are still broken as fuck. Chespin is one of the best you can pick from since he starts with Pin Missile.
>>24767950
And he has an upgraded protect like in the main games? If so I can use him with torchic and it should work fine, right?
>>24767950
Pin Missle + Bulldozer + X/Y Gems + Barrage can do a stupidly high amount of damage, and at a very long range.
>>24766703
>side topic
Aron is basically my second partner because I hatched it back in Sky and thought it was bro-tier, so now I have another one
>>24767332
Is that the gardevoir from rescue teams? Or from team charm? Or are they actually the same gardevoir?
>Zero Isle 7th floor
>Ran into Steelix in a big room
>Fucker picked up a Tiny reviver seed from another room
>Too far away to be hit by Water Pulse or Bubble
>Dig is hitting my whole team, often times OHKO'ing Gengar and Bisharp
>Finally KO'd it and it ate the Tiny Reviver seed
You know what you big motherfucker
>>24768016
>going through all that hassle on floor 7
Why not just restart from save?
>>24768005
We don't know how much time passed between Rescue Team and Explorers. For all we know they could be the same, considering the Gardevoir in this game is connected to both Lopunny (Team Charm) and Gengar (the one from Rescue Team).
>>24768033
>being a casul
>>24767980
Chespin doesn't get Spiky Shield; you'll have to evolve to Chesnaught to get that.
And yes, you'll be fine.
>>24768033
That Steelix is the only problem I've ran into and I made a stupid mistake by not using a wand. If I run into another one I'll play smarter and make it through to the end
>>24768005
its the slut from team charm
where the fuck is xerneas?
Is there any point to Gold Loopletd outside of selling them?
>>24768086
Try reading the thread sometime.
>>24767499
>>24767547
>>24767552
>>24768089
Whoops. Thanks.
Someone should put how long weather lasts on the faq. Hell we could fill it with everything if it were open. Is it open to edit? I can't tell because I'm on my shit phone
I just beat the main story. Other thangetting my partner back, what else is left for me? How much postgame are we talking, here? Is it "just" connecting with all the Pokemon, or is there more story going forward?
>>24768151
Also, anon, I'd also like to note that "Pelipper Island" is incorrectly spelled as "Pelliper Island" in the FAQ
>>24768151
Only I can edit it, but i'm open to any improvements.
>>24768177
Will fix.
>>24768051
Sweet. Thank you anon
>>24768173
Just connecting, but there's a fuckton of content, every Pokemon, loot for days, ITT every really fun aspect you've enjoyed so far other than the main plot.
>>24768200
Nice. Looking forward to it.
>>24768200
Someone rescue me please
floor 7 on the ancient ruins
>>24768226
>does a screencap
>doesnt post the QR code on the bottom screen instead
>>24768226
I'll try it, anon.
>>24768249
>>24768251
t-thanks
>>24768246
>>24768251sorry this is my first miiverse screenshot
>>24768251
But I wanted to do it :(
>>24768251
Nevermind, I'll let >>24768249 handle it.
>>24768265
Thanks
Just let me enter the password which is super long for some reasons
>>24768185
>Implying that post has anything to do with what the anon asked
Xerneas wasn't mentioned in the thread until that anon asked where it is
>>24768085
According to Serebii you have to connect with Latios to connect with Xerneas in the Tree of Life, and you have to reach Master rank and do the mission to connect with Latias in order to connect with Latios.
>>24768275
>>24768265
>>24768261
>>24768251
>>24768249
>>24768246
>>24768226
Here you kind anons go.
sorry about the password
I WAS EXPECTING SOME HEARTFELT POKEMON STORY
NOT GODDAMN TENGEN TOPPA GURREN LAGANN
soundcloud guy here
https://soundcloud.com/lotias/064-temporal-tower-draft-again
I can't figure out which instruments fit where for the life of me, but I'm still getting closer and closer to finishing it
>>24767438
I'm fine with typing the password.
>>24768307
Oh no
It's the Chaos Elemental
>>24768322
I'll get it ready then
>>24768300
>>24768261
Here it is
I also attached a Reviver Seed to it
Watch out for Vibrava's Earthquake assuming it's the dungeon it appears.
Just realized how some dungeons lack certain evolutions. Nuzleaf, alongside the main characters of the story important to the plot,do not have any counterparts in dungeons. It's basically pre evolves, fully evolved, or some just MIA until you connect with them through connection orb. Probably due to 721 Pokemon they made the dungeons diverse. This game is quite deep. Meteors,Time Stopping,and Petrification while throwing the planet off orbit. What was Gates?
>>24768415
Thank you so much!
Heat Wave caps out at 30PP, I think other ones might cap at that too
>>24768307
Don't forget Tales of Symphonia.
>>24768425
>What was Gates?
Everyone's a dick: The novel.
>>24768425
>What was Gates?
Better characters.
WHERE IS GALVANTULA NODE HOLY SHIT I WISH YOU CAN JUST SMACK A POKEMON SO HARD IT BEFRIENDS YOU RIGHT AWAY
>>24768322
K3QTX360S0@5S36MPNN9
J9PPQ32N0K0CF@9KST0W
3&YMRSFH#6+J8R=45MF0
0#%4FPR7#3#MYS78=&4C
the @ is the double circle symbol,tell me if I mistyped this
>visit past continents
>can't revisit old local town from previous game.
Someone get Primal Dialga.
Actually,what happened to the future Grovyle and company were in? What made Dialga go Primal again?
>>24768461
But that's still true at times. See: every battle mission ever.
>>24768310
What happened to ampharos
>get turned to stone
>in mid air
Wouldn't they break if they fell to the earth?
>>24768461
I'm pretty sure I found him fainted randomly in a dungeon.
I use him all the time, he's pretty dope
>>24768476
didn't I have this conversation a few days ago
>>24768445
Eh not really. The only cool character was Hydregon. All of the other ones were just annoying.
I didn't care for the whole dunsparce shit.
>>24768479
fall damage is disabled
>>24768493
I don't think so, and the game's story was much better off for having a smaller but more focused cast. Also takes the strain off the partner to try and carry the whole story, because that shit did not work for me at all in Super.
Dunsparce is just an inferior Sky episode Bidoof though.
>>24768310
Isn't there already a soundtrack dump? Or is this your version?
>>24768520
I make remixes
Temporal Tower isn't even in PSMD's soundtrack
All my completed ones are in this playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjAT1aL3ItBLSnRTHRISj9N-wpDotR2F5
>>24768523
>Temporal Tower isn't even in PSMD's soundtrack
Well, unless you count the one in the jukebox that's ripped straight from Sky
>>24766810
I haven't seen one so far. What a waste of 10 gold bars.
>>24768523
Er, I forgot to add the one I did of Great Canyon to that playlist, fixed
>>24768514
Well to me, most of the characters in Gates combat wise were complete shit bar a few.
Super has characters that actually fucking help in dungeons (which is much needed considering the difficulty at times) which in the end made me like them better.
I do agree that the more focused character pool made them more fleshed out, but I also really liked the exploration society characters. Archen seemed to be the responsible levelheaded one, Buizel the fighter that went in a little over his head at points, Mawile the wise and extremely powerful, etc.
>>24768487
did you
Just realized how similar Hydra (FE Fates) and Darth Matter are. Nuzleaf is literally Takumi or Gunter.
>>24768561
in fact I did
I said Ampharos doesn't want to talk about it
>>24768547
>mawile
>wise
more like learned
>>24768547
Annoyingly, I found that Dunsparce scales really well with levels in PMD, but he can't be used on the later story dungeons. He becomes a boss wrecking machine at least in the limited post game.
Super had this weird thing going on for me - I liked the school kids as characters, but they didn't really do anything. The expedition society did things that were relevant to the plot, but I never cared for them as characters. Swirlix might be the dumbest character in the entire series. Super did have the best use of guest party members however.
I was expecting the same ending as Rescue Team regarding the fate of the player character but I have to admit that they got me with that switch.
Also I'm torn because I finally get to actually explore some dungeons without the tedious story interrupting constantly but I just realized after all that I really don't like the Pokémon I chose for me and my partner.
>>24768606
>Ancient Burrow
>team up with all the kids from school to enter the forbidden dungeon
>tfw we kick so much ass
>next chapter they drop off the plot
>all that wasted potential
>>24768640
Wished the Expedition Society still rejected you so you and the partner start your own with the school kids and eventually save the planet.
>>24768623
Same thing happened to me. I actually restarted the game after like 25 hours of gameplay because I wasn't satisfied with my main characters.
>>24768649
>start your own group
>save the world
>expedition society congratulates you and lets you all join
>post-game story about the expedition society
>>24768649
They still placate the you and your partner on the basis that they're still kids, so there's that. Only Ampharos seems to not give a shit.
>>24768652
Would you say it was worth it, considering how big the post-game is looking? I'm considering it but if you can't skip scenes then the story is going to be hell to go through again.
>>24768662
He should've turned you down as well. Would've been a perfect excuse to throw more of thatDon't Give Upmessage. Form your own society with the kids from school and not only show them up by being better than them, but save the world in the process.
Let's get all Spongebob Movie up in here.
>>24768679Guess I wasn't the only one who saw Dark Matter reverting you to your first forms being like Dennis taking away the fake moustaches
>>24768283
It's in the faq faggot.
>>24768693
Should've told him to read the FAQ in the OP instead of directing him to a completely unrelated post about reading the thread then, Dickhead. It must suck having the same IQ as your age.
>>24767044
I tend to carry a slumber orb and rush a corridor, making better use of my long-range artillery partners while I tank the damage.
>just got tothe voidlands
meh,FUUUUTURE was spookier
>>24768660
>You, the partner and the rest of the kids are on the ropes against a powerful foe.
>The teachers suddenly come in at the last second to fight alongside you.
>Watchog has a stupid amount of HP from all the attacks he took at school
>>24768759
I would buy a remake of Sky for the 3DS with updated mechanics in a heartbeat.
>>24768759
I liked theVoidlandsnot because they were particularly spooky, but becausealmost everyone in the world has been sent there as well. You, the guild, and Entai, Raikou, and Suicune are only a small number of the Pokemon trapped there.
This is my first PMD game.
What did older games use instead of the connection orb?
>>24767044
I use a Petrify orb and take enemies out one by one since I don't usually have a room-hit move. The problem with that method is when an enemy uses a room-hit move or turns the weather to hail/sandstorm and unpetrifies all enemies.
>>24767044
Petrify Orb
Use that, take all the items, bolt to the stairs
>>24768786
Random recruit chance when you defeat a pokemon in a dungeon
>>24768795
.....That sounds honestly horrible.
Which system is better by the consensus?
>>24768783I was disappointed with how simple it was to escape. Are they telling me that Arceus, Mewtwo, Mega Rayquaza and Deoxys wouldn't have been able to break out in minutes?
>>24768801
they don't have someone to knock them into the gate right as it opens, only a few would escape and they'd just get turned back to stone
>>24768799
Connection orbs. Recruiting legendaries is so hard in the older games that you may as well be using savestates.
>>24768799
This one is better if you want to play as all the Pokémon. I prefer the older one because it made obtaining legendaries a real feat and also helped me feel like I was actually building a team and not getting random Pokémon I barely know to do my grunt work for me while I get to keep all the payment.
>Have to keep reviving this dumbfuck Beartic every time he dies for 15 floors and waste all my reviver seeds
>The second I set foot on the 15th floor, Whiscash kills Beartic with EQ and I can't revive him
Why are all the escorts made of paper mache in this game
>>24768799
Connection Orb is good because you don't have to deal with every low-level chump you KO asking to join your team and it ensures your roster doesn't end up bloated with a fuckton of duplicates. Downside is there are no random jobs, which means once you finish all of the jobs on the connection orb there's nothing left to do. Thankfully by that point you will have gotten all possible enjoyment out of the game, so it really doesn't matter.
Yvetal just completely wiped my party and now im back at the start. Fuck this game. What the fuck.
>>24768792
>Not taking out every enemy one by one for exp
Okay so I just beat the main story. When do the 99F level 1 dungeons and brutal escort missions kick in?
>>24766830
>skip Rescue Team because it's honestly pretty mediocre
>>24768851
should've picked "give up" instead of loading from your save
>>24768860
Explorers is better in every way aside from a shitter gummy/IQ grind
>Entei going ham on the expedition team
>Behaves himself as soon as Ampharos shows up
>>24768837
>it made recruiting legendaries a real feat
It really didn't though. Eventually you reached a point where you had all the recruitment chance bonuses and could kill the boss in three hits with your normal attack. At that point it was just tedium until you finally hit that 3% recruitment chance
>>24768799
There are not many worse things in life than getting to the end of a hard dungeon and beating the boss only to not get it.
>>24768862
Its obviously too late but...what does that do? I've never selected that because it says it will take my items.
>>24768839
It's not so much they're made of paper mache as it's how they don't naturally regenerate HP. If they could heal over time like your team could, it'd be so much easier.
>>24768851
>not preparing for the worst
>>24768893
Yveltal's HP won't reset
>>24768799
I prefer the connection orb system, but I do miss being able to have multiple of the same pokemon on a team.
Its suffering not being able to reform my traditional all mareep team. At least I can always just go back to Sky.
>>24768893
It takes you back to the entrance without your inventory items. But you keep all the exp/levels you got.
>>24768799
The old system is way better. It actually gave an incentive to explore, and it allowed you to have more than only one of each species, which is complete bullshit.
>>24768883
Explorers has a lot of shitty inconveniences and Rescue Team is enjoyably simple in comparison and also you're a fucking retard.
>>24768893
You go back to a checkpoint in the middle of the dungeon. I don't think Yveltal's HP carries over like the other guy said.
>>24768886
>went through Bottomless Sea 7 times until i got Kyogre
>>24768883
Sky > Rescue Team > Time and Darkness
>>24768908
No, it takes you back to the last time you were not in a dungeon, including the last checkpoint you had mid-dungeon, which you can't save in.
How do I beat Mystery Jungle? I end up using like half of my Reviver Seeds on the first floor because pretty much every attack 2HKOs me.
>>24768936
play smart
>>24768936
Learn to use wands.
explorers is superior to SMD in story AND gameplay
>>24768976
hahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>24768976
I'll give you the first but disagree on the second but both are largely matters of opinion.
I prefer SMD's almost challenge compared to the previous no challenge ever.
>>24768976
>Explorers has better gameplay than SuperGates has a better story than both
>>24768995
Is a heresy I become a pokemon and then marry a pokemon
Have any of the SMD portrait sprites been ripped, including the emotions and Mega Evolutions? And is there a gameplay video for Mega Rayquaza?
>>24768005
Gardevoir in the picture is actually looking at Gengar, who's looking at her back, so maybe that garde is actually from both.
>>24769017
Someone please give this man an answer so he can stop asking in every fucking thread.
>>24768307
>>24768441
With a sprinkle of Xenoblade.
Every time my Ampharos goes berserk, he never hits any of my partners
>>24769017
there is no rip
people are still figuring out how to extract the portraits
>>24769039
You too huh? All he does is punch the walls
Question! I'm looking through my connection orb and I've noticed some pokemon are sparkling. I looked at all the ones I could find to see if it were a pattern, but it's on seemingly random 'mons like Ledian and Bronzor.
What does it mean? Does it even mean anything??
So is your partner in Gates a kid or an adult? I'm confused.
> able to buy land all by yourself
> easily forms an rescue team with no hassle at all
> dialogue tone suggests it's very philosophical
> not at all bratty or annoying, actually pretty damn brave
>>24769056
best partner
>>24768772
The only question is,what happens to the other timeline? I wonder if the past guild masters got turned to stone.
>>24769060
The gold sparkles mean they unlock a new dungeon
>>24769075
Oh, that's it? Hm, neat. Thank you.
>>24769061
I headcanon him to be about 19. Later on, you'll find outthat he pretty much went through his own character development before the game even began
Gates partner was a complete bro. A lot of people say he's bland, but he's not any more bland than the Explorers partner.
>>24769075
Oh, that's it? Hm. Neat. Thanks!
>>24769088
The only thing the Explorer partner does is lust over the Player
>>24769100
The player character lusts over Super's partner pretty damn hard in the epilogue as well.
>>24768909
It also made team selection a clusterfuck of the same mons unless you memorized every mon you recruited and turned down every mon of the same species that constantly wanted to join you which got annoying fast. The only downside to it is you can only have 1 of most first and second stage mons and there aren't normal missions, both of which could be remedied in the next game.
>>24768976
See >>24768985
Is the PSMD USA from out yet?
>>24769126
Been out since Nov 20 for NA
>>24769116
Well in explorer is pretty hard to not see then getting together.
Moving in his house and all.
>>24769138
Not to mention trying to be parental figures to the baby manaphy
Why can't I sketch fusion flare?
Why is this
>all this Amp art
more
>>24769169
>>24769149
That felt like the game trying to tell me that they are in fact a couple
>>24769116
>>24769100
>Super's MC lusts for the partner
>Explorer's partner lusts for the MC
I sense in the future there will be a PMD game where both parties lust for each other
>>24769184
And still nothing will come of it
What's better, Sand Looplet or Darkness?
>>24769203
What if there were two partners next game and you could choose which one to get cosy with?
>>24769215
>A whole arc/chapter of one trying to one-up the other
This is starting so sound like one of my Chinese visual novels
>>24769184
Seeing at the "Mach Girls" promo, that doesn't sound so imposible.
So, you become a pokemon a will live there forever, will you romance your partner?
>>24769184
Or they make it so that both of you hate each other, but you have to work together.
>>24769222
In ten years.
>>24769224
That actually sounds really interesting. A partner that starts as a rival
Next mystery dungeon is a naruto clone. Your partner defects from your team all out of angst. Infernape would be the leader of the village.
>>24769245
Shit.
That would be good.
Might as well go full Kain and battle him with your stolen gear.
>Rewatch the ending of Explorers
>Remember my first time beating the >Unexpected rain indoors.
Why do these games always end as tear jerkers? Aren't they made for kids? I am afraid to be at play through or Gates now.
Can somebody explain to me how the progress device works?
>>24769286
Lets you save inside a dungeon.
>>24769286
Makes it so you can save while in a dungeon
Good for if your battery is dying and you don't have a charger nearby
>>24769286
you set it down in a dungeon, and it saves your game.
>>24769294
>>24769298
so if i drop it before a boss, and the boss kills me, what happens? I go back to the progress device and can keep loading from there?
>>24769303
You're fighting Yveltal, aren't you?
>>24769315
Yes.
>Playing Gates to wait until Super comes out in Evropa
>Gameplay's bleh, but the story so far is at least on par with Explorers if not better
>That moment at the end of Scorching Desert
I didn't ask for this
>>24769303
Pretty sure I did that when I was fightingYveltal and co.and it worked. Bring Pounce Wands and maybe a Ban Seed.
>>24769324
Knew it. It's a one-time use, I think, so use it wisely
Should pop you back to it. Never used it before a boss
>>24769207
Is it possible to get more than one of each treasure at a time? If not, go with both. If it is possible, I would imagine the Darkness looplet would be better. But I'm very far from having a high enough rank to get the Darkness looplet to try it.
Where's the best place to quickly get a fuckton of items in Sky for the Recycle Shop? I'm trying to unlock Zero Isle Centre.
>use See Trap orb
>see room with 11 traps
The monster house was wiped out with 1 Discharge at least
>>24769387
Aegis Cave. The Unown randomly drop Unown Stones, and you can use those for recycling.
>>24768704
>read the thread
>guess I'll read the thread
>should probably start with the first post, like everyone
>hey an faq! Oh cool this answers my question!
>now I should read the rest of the thread too so I don't keep asking redundant questions
Btw great comeback cock muncher
>>24769117
Recruited mons' names appear orange rather than blue in Explorers. No memorization required.
I just got toabyssal badlands[/spoilers] and jesus everything is wrecking my shit
>>24767476
Snubbull showed up in RT and SMD. In RT, he/she, I don't remember the gender, evolved and something happened I think. The one in SMD is a lady and one of the first Pokemon you meet in Lively Town.
>>24769444
She also has a master, apparently.What the fuck were they thinking?
>>24769022
>They actually really look at each other in the picture
FUCK
>find awakening looplet on Zero Isle 12F
ayyyyy
>>24768858
Have you done the epilogue and got your partener back?
>>24768037
what about Medicham though?
>>24769476
Who the fuck cares
>>24769472
Awakening Looplet? Does that let you mega Evolve whenever?
>>24769481
No, like, looplet with Awakening in it.
>>24769468
The pokemon on the boxart covers evolved as the series progressed.
>>24769040
Thanks!
>>24769480
>member of team meanies and team charm
idk anon that seems more important desu
what are your hopes for the next PMD game?
>>24769527
Naruto
>>24769486
So just an ordinary Looplet that has an Awakening in it? Nah. I'd rather have the Air Looplet with Awakening. Berserk status sucks.
>>24768310
thoughts on the draft, anyone?
>>24769527
Sex with partner.
>Diglett is connected to both Dugtrio and Skarmory
I kekked
>>24769541
It's still good to find..
what are some top tier pokemon in this?
>>24769561
stunfisk
>>24769561
Rotom, Stunfisk, anyone that can learn Heat Wave.
>>24769562
>you will never pick stunfisk as your partner
>that stupid fucking flat face when he tricks the drilbur
Can someone please save me?
Isle of Light 12F
>Beeheyemis a guest and not a team member
THIS ISN'T AT ALL SUSPICIOUS
>>24769551
I like it!
>>24769585
that happens with a lot of innocent 'mons
>>24769561
Shaymin-Sky is a good partner with AoE, Debuffs, and LoS Moves. Cincinno hits hard. As mentioned, Rotom is great. The first and later in Mow form synergize well with Charizard + Swampert.
>>24769588
thanksI don't think anyone remembers me from the threads before PSMD came out
>>24769613
I do
Is there ever a use for Plain Seeds, or should I just eat them for that sweet +2 hunger?
>>24769627
use Recycle on them
>>24769627
Use Recycle. Turns them into a different item.
>>24769088
> that spoiler
Really? When is that revealed?
>>24769591
but this is a story mission with nobody else
everyone else goes on your team
So, is there any reason to go through Temple Remains?
>>24769668
>forgettingthe massive party you get in the Ancient Barrow
>forgettingthe massive party you get towards the end of the Voidlands
>>24769668
It's because you and your partner don't trust him, not the other way around
>>24769681
those still gave you a pokemon on your team, the team cap's always at 3 and you're going above thatI know this rocky nigga is gonna backstab me mang, I just know it, he ain't saying shit when it matters
>>24769698
Seems like someone has trust issues.
POKEMON MOST BEFITTING OF THE MC AND PARTNER'S PERSONALITIES IN EACH PMD, GOGOGO
>>24769718
I TRUSTEDDusknoir and the other time copsTOO
LOOK WHERE THAT GOT ME
>>24769726
Chespin
>>24769567
>>that stupid fucking flat face when he tricks the drilbur
Is there an image?
>>24769744
there's no portrait rip yet and you can't pick stunfisk as your partner
Where can I get an Eye drop seed for Diglett?
>>24769757
it'll spawn on the same floor
>>24769744
fan-made but this should give you an idea
>>24769729
I bet you trust your dad, too, faggot.This is a metaphorI think
wew
>hear that Poliwrath river is THE difficulty spike
>pick grass and water starter
>have to eat like 5 oran berries and 3 revivers
>get to boss
>have wand expert on snivy and type bulldozer on piplup who spams bubble
>warp wand
>alliance with no mercy
that was easy
>>24769799
alright what happened
>>24769809
The only part that gave me any difficulty was yvetal.
>>24769809
>Hey guys I built around getting over this challenge specifically, it wasn't hard at all! I don't see the big deal!
>>24769831
>built
>RNG emeras
>>24769820
Finished an expedition while controlling Mega Salamence. Game doesn't know how to handle this.
>>24769757
Any time you need a specific item for a Pokemon you're rescuing it spawns on the same floor
>>24769561
I'm doing a vitamin-less/Hawlucha Learn-less run and only have Arceus left, and with great success.
Unburden-Purrloin/Liepard
Rotom (All forms, but base form is preferred)
Volcarona or Magcargo (Volcarona preferred)
If Purrloin/Liepard happen to be on break at the same time I'll switch to Rhyperior or Cinccino.
One of the Rotom forms are always available, so no issue there.
Ampharos is a good substitute if Volcarona and Magcargo are on break.
If I can get as far as I have with little trouble hoarding all my vitamins and Lucha tokens I'd say they are pretty damn good.
>>24769829
I think Yveltal would have been much tougher if I hadn't gotten Dizzying Stare and constantly had it confused the whole fight
I don't see how people had trouble with Yveltal. A Truant Wand is all it took.having defense curl + rollout didn't hurt, either
>>24769868
It was easier the second time.
traunt wand is great.
>>24769867
What are your movesets? Assuming Discharge and Ominous Wind on Rotom, Heat Wave and Silver Wind on Volc, and Hear Wave and Earth Power on Magcargo.
>>24769914
Fuck that noise
>try truant wand 3 attempts in a row
>every time the Beheeyems just use Simple fucking Beam
Any tips on fightingDark Matter
>>24769933
hit it until it dies?
I just sat there and threw Flame Burst/Water Gun at it for 10 minutes straight and all that happened was I lost 5ish reviver seeds from the arm sweep
Complete letdown compared to something like Primal Dialga
>>24769928
Uh...wow. I never had that happen. They used simple beam on me, but never Yvetal.
>>24769941
Wands? Orbs?
>>24769946
No clue if it's just them trying to hit me with it or their AI being smart, it was usually the faggot on the left that I never bothered getting to because Yveltal is in the way
>>24769960
I used pounce wand and then traunt, so the beheeyems died pretty fast, but they did live long enough to target jirachi with simple beam for some reason
>>24769921
Purrloin/Liepard=Assurance/Sucker Punch/Hone Claws/Fury Swipes
Rotom=Discharge/Ominous Wind/Confuse Ray/Shadow Ball
Volcarona=Heat Wave/Silver Wind/Flamethrower/Ember
Magcargo=Ember/Flamethrower/Flame Burst/Earth Power
If Magcargo could learn Heat Wave through remembering instead of the learn option I'd switch Ember out.
A single Hone Claws is enough to KO most Pokemon with Fury Swipes, and those who aren't are pretty much guaranteed to after another Fury Swipes or especially Assurance. With the other two following behind me however it almost never comes to me attacking two turns with Purrloin/Liepard, which saves a lot of party PP too.
>>24769978
Cool. Is there really nothing better than Ember?
>>24770014
There is Rock Slide for better coverage but the loss of a 2-tile STAB to finish off damaged enemies feels more useful.
>>24769222
>art of my Super team
Finally. Thank you for posting anon.
>>24769933git gud
>>24769933Don't give up.
>>24770177
>literally my team
>oblivion wing heals
this is some primal dialga bullshit I yell you hwot
>>24769527
More post-game story.Really I'd settle for DLC. I just want more happy pokemon friends doing things together.
>>24770284
>PMU is shit
>PMD fan games are autistic
>PMD rom hacks are non-existent
Life is suffering.
>>24770289
PMD is notoriously difficult to make rom-hacks of, your best bet is buckling down to make your own game engine
>5 power up y's
>Fighting dark matter
>Progress device at the stairs right before him
>get defeated about two rounds before defeat every time
>choose give up, beat him in two rounds and lose my gold looplet, weather looplet, full pack of wands and etc.
>choose continue and get back to progress device, unable to change the amount of reviver seeds i have initially
this is hell
how did you guys do this?
>>24770317
Yeah, that is some fragile fucking code. It is completely inflexible.
>>24770326
>dying to dark matter
Stop living any time
>>24768976
>better story
Explorers' story isreally not that great and has far too many cliches and plot devices to be enjoyable. The characters are also pretty flat and generic if you move past the one liners. And you can see every twist coming a mile away. The only reason why I think people hold onto it is that it has generally darker themes than the other games and the best artstyle in the series
>>24768995
Also, this
>>24770317I have to live vicariously through roleplay and art trades. Its a hard life.
>>24770337
I really enjoyed the avalanche of cliches in Explorers though. Because all I could do was yell TIMEEEEE COOOOOPS for like half the game.
You could see everything coming but I burned through it on a high of 90's action movies featuring pokemon. Though Dusknoir, Sceptile, and Celebi were clearly from 80's movies - with Celebi being the spunky hacker girl of course.
>>24770346
>through role-play
h'wat
>>24770376You find fellow degenerates on the internet, then write and draw stories together about your teams.
>>24770386
oh I get it
I've been seriously considering building a PMD engine in Game Maker, but I have other projects
>>24770404
sure you do
>>24770284
>>24770289
>>24770317
>>24770327
>>24770346
>>24770404
Why does it have to be so fucking hard?
Is it too much to just want more fun Pokemon adventures?
>>24770411
I'm working on a 2D skeletal animation system, anon, and then I have my own personal game idea to work on
>>24770423
We all do, anon.
>>24770412
I mean, making a working engine would be exceptionally easy, bar digging through walls and some factors like speed boosts and assuming I had access to how damage and level-up stat boosts are calculated and other information (movesets, blah blah blah)
I am just not a motivated person
Should i evolve every single pokemon?
>>24770426I've been constantly scrapping my game idea and starting from scratch again for several years now, slowly building on the same idea, make it stop
>>24770447You sound like me. I'm using gamemaker too. Started two years ago.[/spoilers]
>>24770452
I've definitely been using it for two more years, but I've made enough progress that I think I can settle on finishing a single project, because I know scrapping and starting again wouldn't make it better this timeexcept I'm waiting for GM:S 2.0
>>24770458
>GM:S 2.0I can't wait to throw all my progress away
>for once in my life get Totodile first try in a Mystery Dungeon game
>Feraligatr is in my top 10 favorites
>play through the game and had a great time
>Chespin is my 2nd favorite starter
>love Quilladin and Chesnaught too
>want to restart but don't want to be stuck through Serene Village for another 10 hours
what do? Keep playing with old bro or restart using new bro?
When do I get Scrafty?
>>24770464
Exactly why I'm waiting and just working on building the model editor for my skeletal animation thing
>>24770475
Are you doing the model editor in the current GS though?
>>24770473
How far are you in? Game gets hard either way so stock up lots of reviver seeds as much as you can.
>>24770486
yeah, GM:S 1.4.1683
as long as I remember the file format I'd be able to work just fine in the next GM, because the information will be the same
>>24770503
Best of luck then, anon
>>24770502
Already beat them game as Totodile.
Also to make this choice harder
Feraligatr
>Water is one of my favorite types
>Crocodilia is my favorite order of animals
Chensaught
>Fighting is one of my favorite types
>Knights/Paladins/Tanks are my favorite class in video games
>I have a terrible fear of birds, which makes me feel more connected to Chesnaught, who is double weak to flying
Is there any way to permanently increase the PP and accuracy of moves in Explorers, or just power?
>>24770531
Well just recruit more pokemon
>>24766703
Just finished the main story.
Massive obvious spoilersGod that ending was such a surprise and a sucker punch. I was not expecting the partner to be one to go away.
>the hero collapses into tears
>credits start playing
F-Fuck you game...
Say, if I did build a PMD engine.
3D or 2D? I keep leaning towards 3D, because of how much better the dungeon environments are.3D in Game Maker is the biggest pain in the ass though.
>>24770562
Whichever is easier, though I liked the art direction of Sky better than SMD.
>>24770562
Or even ahybrid where Pokemon are 2D and environments are 3D
>>24770562
>>24770564
>>24770566
3d looks better yeah, but it depends what you're using. Unity does 3d easier, but overall 3d is always harder than 2d
>>24770531
>I have a terrible fear of birds
There has to be a story here.
>>24770588
The 3D environments would only require simple shaders, nothing complex, so GM would work and it's all I know
>>24767332
>Grovyle, Celebi and Dusknoir
Good memories of that side story.
>>24770595
Of course. It's not good, but it's a story.When I was 6 years old I was playing in my backyard and two blue jays attacked me, pecking at my head for a few seconds. Seeing birds flying or flapping their wings freaks me the fuck out, but if they're just standing on the ground or something it isn't that bad. Blue jays flat out freak me out, like I get paralyzed in fear and can't move at all until it flies away.
>>24770600
do it then
>>24770631
how does regular show make you feel
>>24770643
Mordecai made me a little uncomfortable at first, but he's my 2nd favorite character. He doesn't look much like a Blue jay and doesn't act like one. He's chill as fuck.
Should I be ashamed?
>>24770676
filthy casual,you know that item is literally useless right?
>>24770676
nah but it's really not as good as it seems to be.
so new thread soon right?
>>24770707I just found that out
According to Bulbapedia:
>Space Globe is an item found in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky. It is a type of Globe that doubles the power of all offensive moves. It is given to the player upon reaching the final floor of Destiny Tower.
Anyone know the ACTUAL effect?
>>24770745
I tried it on and off with a max stat mon.I dealt less damage with it on
>>24770738
You make it senpai I'm too baked
>>24770754
Well shit. It's certainly less effective than my plain old Power Band. Wonder if there's a coding error.
>>24770631
Its alright, blue jays are the asshole cousins of the corvid family. They're pretty smart but unlike most of the corvids who channeled it into being social, surprisingly good tool users, and such - Jays, they just use their modestly greater than average intelligence to form gangs and be aggressive number advantage shits to monopolize food sites.
You stepped on the turf of shitty gang banger birds.
