Alright everyone, the DJ will play one more song, then the party is over. Thanks for stopping by to celebrate thread #500!
Post your Thread 500 art here so it can be featured in the upcoming collage! This is your last chance!!!
/sthg/ - #502 - Last Call Edition
>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK
>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b
>News/Developments<
The Sonic 25th Anniversary Party is on July 22! It will be live-streamed via Twitch and is set to feature an "exclusive first look at the future of Sonic" (It'll probably just be memes).
SEGA Confirms New Sonic Project Coming 2017
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/sega-confirms-new-sonic-project-is-coming-in-2017/
Sonic Team working on a "completely new game"
http://soahcity.com/2016/06/22/famitsu-interview-with-sonic-team-for-sonics-25th-anniversary/
Tons of Unseen Sonic Concept Art Revealed
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/lots-of-unseen-concept-art-of-sonic-and-company/
Sonic: Mega Drive is out now - Sequel revealed
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/first-look-at-sonic-mega-drive-1-reveals-sequel/
Sonic Boom Fire & Ice E3 Trailer
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/06/sonic-boom-fire-ice-e3-trailer/
Runners is Dead - Servers to shut down July 27
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/05/sonic-runners-shutting-down-next-month/
Sonic is joining the cast of LEGO Dimensions!
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/09/sonic-hedgehog-joins-lego-dimensions/
http://segabits.com/blog/2016/07/01/first-look-sonic-the-hedgehogs-lego-dimensions-figure/
>Recent Releases<
Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games is out for 3DS and Wii U.
Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is out for the 3DS on September 27.
Sonic Boom's first season has ended! You can watch all of the first season's episodes in English here:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/sonic-boom
Season 2 will air later this year.
Previous thread >>148413449
slow
1st for POST ART
>>148568646
>>148568649
My goal is to get my pic done before the thread diesand then just slap a 500 on it.
>"OCs are bad!"
Uh, why? Can someone actually explain what's inherently bad about original characters? Because that seems to be a common attitude.
>>148569620
This conversation has already happened in the last 50 threads. Go read the original one instead of sparking that tirefire again.
Why is Blaze such a moralfriend?
>>148570093
Because she is Sonic butflatter
>>148567578
Where are Bump's and Sage's legs?
>>148570395
I can see Bump's foot but I guess Sage just has her's tucked up into her sweater or some shit, I dunno.
>>148570226
Nothing wrong with that
Don't let Pic Related be you!
>>148570706
hey big buy
>>148570706
every time someone brings up his fishing minigame I can only think of the deadly premonition fishing game
i should probably play Sonic Adventure again sometime
>>148570706
Nice. Saved.
>>148570794
little guy
>have summer cold
>wanna go fast
>almost passed out from going fast in generations
thanks for reading my blog here's a metal sonic
qt
>>148572293
>>148572584
Still cute.
>>148572584
>>148573514
>No toes
Ha ha
>>148569186
Works for me
Progress?
>>148569186
Well, I'm still working on mine, should get it done before this thread is through.
>>148573582
>>148574690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8tTlc-Ajzc
>>148574690
thank you anon ha ha
>>148575082
is that silver or sonichu
>>148572584
I can't believe Amy murdered tails from jealousy.
>>148575387
follow your dreams anon
>>148574880
>Those hips
sweatinghedgehog.png
>>148575502
Amy is a Yandere
>>148573603
I'd prefer to just post it when it's done...or when the thread dies. Whichever comes first.
>>148575803
She's insane
>>148575961
>gross toes
>white blaze belly
>>148575961
>worstxbest
Silver needs to die
>>148576096
>>148576140
>>148576140
>hating on best dork
Maybe you need to die.
>>148576419
you shouldn't tell people to die
>>148575803Imagine Tails chasing Amy with the ax through a hedge maze like in The Shining with Jack Nicholson.
>>148575387
Me too anon, me too...
>>148575961
> Silver would grab Blazes hand and forcibly drag her away from her friends because they are too annoying, while she stands there looking confused
> this is what silverfags actually believe
artist has shite headcanon personality desu
>>148576536I'm not sorry
Here's a thought:Super Mario 64 did a better job at parkour gameplay than Sonic Lost World and it was never advertised like that, not to mention it was released 17 years earlier.
>>148577102
Nice wrong opinion Anon
>>148576140
>>148576847This how silverfags see silver
>>148577102
SM64 also had an unreasonable amount of time put into how Mario moves and feels while moving and he doesn't even focus on movement physics. Makes me wonder why Sonic Team didn't do the same for SA1 since it came out 3 years later.
>>148576847
Silver is literally a white knight so it makes sense
>>148577250
Actually we just see him as an adorable goofball.I only ship him with Blaze because it creates a spaghetti singularity.
>>148577375
He's a spaghetti spilling cuck.
>>148577258
It's painful to see how the great physics based gameplay in 2D games was ditched in 3D games in lieu of scripted tracks.
>>148576140
06 really brought nothing good on the table.
>>148577258
Mario 64 kind of definitively shits on sonic adventure mechanically. Mario moves a lot smoother, the camera, though not perfect isn't nearly as bad as adventures, and although homing attack was a really good idea, Jumping tends to feel weird and it's really easy to careen out of control.Sonic Adventure could've been amazing with just a bit tighter controls, better camera and slightly more thought out level design.
>>148577375
>>148577639
chances are high she would proceed to slap his shit.
fuck that, she would most definiely slap his shit, we all know that to be truth.
>>148577171
Come on anon they shat the bed with parkour in lost world most of the time you can't walk up walls in 2d sections with being launch by a invisible all the way up, and it looks very clunky
>>148578387
>comparing a speedrun of mario to your casual play of LW
>>148578525
I've seen speed runs of lost world though, the parkour still looks bad in that game they could do it better but they probably going to drop it like they dropped the boost
>>148578525
Even in a casual run, Mario 64 is much better to control and has much more freedom.
Does anyone know who drew this? I want to find more by the artist.
>>148577250
>>148577639
>>148579768
I don't know the name but he sticks around here. He'd probably be able to help you out once he pops up.
>>148579768
http://toby-barrett.deviantart.com/
You're welcome
>>148579809
Fucking Silver and his Spaghetti, he doesn't deserve any girls
>>148579867
Thanks anon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGiNj5SFmJs
>>148580713
Oh fuck I didn't get that reference the first time that was posted kek
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/07/espxsonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-25th-anniversary-shadow-the-hedgehog-15th-anniversary-guitars-announced/
I don't even play guitar but I want one.
>>148579768
I always hear about him being super depressed and hating his drawings.
>>148581294
thank mr jun
>>148581294
thank mr jun
>>148581409
That sounds like a lot of artists
>>148581528
Lot of good artists never feel they're that good, while lots of terrible artists are convinced they're the hottest shit. One of those sad ironies of life.
justwaitaminute
>>148581620
Tragic
>>148581294
If I could get one I'd learn to play guitar.
>>148581620
>caring about what people think of what you do
The best artists draw because they like to. They don't concern themselves with their "approval rating" or public acceptance.
>>148578772
It's almost like sonic is at it's core basically an on rails game or something
>>148582468
That's not what he means. Most good artists strive to get better and in doing so always see themselves as inferior to other artists or as the challenger rising up.
>>148582468
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_critic
>>148582468
>What is reading comprehension
wew lad
>>148582608
>at it's core
Nope. Unless you're referring to Adventure to present, in which case that was the problem.
>>148581409
Hating his drawings? Toby hates himself to the point that it's worrisome.
>>148582861
Someone should make him a card
>>148575173
It's Sonic and Shadow you numbskull
>>148582821
Even the Adventures weren't as linear as a lot of people say that are. It's just that the alternate routes that exist don't offer as many advantages against the obvious path as they did in the classic games.
>>148583324
Also the assballs camera made finding them more annoying than it was worth most of the time.
#Would totally play it #One week to go #You've mostly all been super patient #but the day is soon upon us #then... ALL WILL BE REVEALED #we hope you read that with thunderbolts and organs playing #but seriously--we're so excited to share with you what's to come #next week alone is going to be a fun one #we'll be announcing where you can watch the livestream of the party #and a few other treats and goodies
>>148583880
>sonic_irl.png
this is what the movie is going to look like :^)
>>148583324
>>148582821
you're confusing a linear game with a rail game
Killer 7 is a rail shooter but it's also nearly open world
Am I the only one who legitimately likes Silver? He may be naive as fuck, but he makes an honest effort to do the right thing and I admire that.
>>148584925
He's basically a more naive Sonic with psychokinesis. What's not to love?
>>148584925
Question; Which lyric from a Sonic song is your favorite?
For me it's
>IF YOU COULD TELL ME HOW TO LEND A HAND
>I WOULD TRY TO UNDERSTAND
>>148584925
Hell no, Silver's pretty likeable.
The comics did a great job and they didn't change his character.
>>148585124
Eh. In my opinion, Evan made him a bit too dorkish compared to how he was in the Rivals games. He was naive, but to a point. I still think he's cool in the comics, though.
>>148585054
What can I say? I'm a sucker for characters who are passionate about their fight for justice.
>>148584925
silver is ok when he is like in the comics.
what people don' t like is the "alternate" fan interpretation of silver.
and how he was in 2006 cause fuck that.
>>148583880
>knuckles really has no ears
>>148585048
>>148585124
>>148585496
Not to mention he has the best character theme out of everyone in 06.CAUSE EVERY NIGHT I WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE [/SPOILER]
>>148584324
>Killer 7
Loved playing that game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaTLR81skYY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8djQqCaSBg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrWP4cZY4mY
>>148585726
Echidnas just have little tiny ear holes, so their hearing isn't that good. But then can sense vibrations through the ground for miles, and it's hypothesized that they communicate through vibration as well.
>>148583880
Shit, Knuckles is really ugly IRL
>>148586025
you're just jealous of his creepy hand penis
>>148583880
If Penders was so hellbent on keeping his characters echidnas, he should have just redesigned them to look like real life echidnas. Probably would have fit his ugly artstyle better.
>>148586210
>>148586025
Real echidnas a cute!
>>148586872
That's actually cute as fuck. I'd read the shit out of that for the art alone.
>>148586872
Am I the only one not sure to want the announcement next week? It's probably gonna shake things pretty heavily, and most likely not in a good way either.
>>148572293
>she'll never be mine
>>148587446
Embrace the chaos, anon.
If there are fake Master Emeralds on Westside Island, and the Hidden Palace Zone is an old Troll territory, maybe the trolls created the Master Emerald on Angel Island?
This thread needs more cute.
Julian Kinobtor?
...He is no more
>>148588382
The fake emeralds don't have any power though; they're just big rocks. Pretty sure Ian's going to be leaving the Chaos Emeralds and Master Emerald as mysterious ancient creations of nature with no defined origin, as in the games.
>>148588628
>Ladies and Gentlemen, Lend me your ears and listen to me very carefully....
>>148588628
>NTDOY.PK down
What's going on in this thread?
>>148588728
Yeah, you're most likely right. Just a strange coincidence in-canon for the comic I guess.
>>148588454
>>148588794
>>148588904
>Nintendo stock has almost doubled in value since Pokemon Go's release
R.O.B.'s face is also mine since I didn't buy up more while they were still trending down right before release.
>>148588971
Just chillin'
>>148589209
Did anyone expect pokemon go to be this much of a hit?
>>148589454
I don't even think Nintendo expected it. It was such a hit that they actually hit their trade limit for the first time in a long time.
>>148589454
I figured it would be popular, but not to this extent.
Sonic Go when
>>148589673
>>148589454
Honestly, it feels like we're back in the height of Pokemon's popularity, because it's fucking EVERYWHERE. Makes you wonder how well a Chao garden Go would do
>>148590243
It would make money, but it wouldn't have the widespread nostalgia appeal Pokémon has.
>>148587446
Honey is hot.
>>148590243
>Makes you wonder how well a Chao garden Go would do
Better than recent Sonic mobile attempts, but probably not a giant thing.
>>148589938
you mean like Pokemon Go or a puzzle board game like Hitman Go
>>148588971
Speculating story of SA3
>>148581810
FOX BOY, WAIT FOR MEE
>>148591340
Sonic and Tails run around cracking jokes at eachother in a barren, empty world as Eggman executes his master plan to take over Candyland with the help of his two lackey bots not-Scratch and not-Grounder.
Sonic is the only playable character and Wisps are again a staple feature to gameplay.
>>148593062
Obligatory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzhxP-pdos
Here's your (You)
>>148593230
>implying Amy would settle for a faker
>>148593330
Amy wants Shadow's cock and you know it
>>148593330
Agreed. She deserves only the one, true Sonic.
>>148593424
>implying Shadow would take anything that isn't human
Amy's such a slut
Why is Shadamy a thing?
>>148593719
Because there can only be so much autism in one spot before the universe collapses in on itself.
>>148593524
How long until she finds out that he's not sonic.?
What time does the anniversary party start? Just wanting to know if I'll have to stay up late for it or not.
>>148593770
Part of me wants to imagine that Maria actually would've grown up to be a manic scientist and the fact that she died young saved her of a life of turning plants into robots or something.
>>148593816
Because some people in the world have horrible taste.
>>148593816
it's hot as fuck
>>148590243
Honestly? I really don't think a Chao garden game is so viable no matter how you design it. Sonic is just not so popular anymore and I can't imagine Chao having a following outside of fans, so I don't think a game such as that would have the potential to reach a huge audience and build a big playerbase. The last time Chao had any kind of serious relevancy in the series was 15 years ago.
>>148593524
Can a Metal Sonic love?
>>148594049
>Date & Time
>July 22
>
>6:00 pm - 10:00 pm
>>148593816
Pink and black is a nice color combination.
>>148593816
Because "le dark, troubled character and le cute grl"
In other words: High School fanfic-tier degeneracy.
>>148593424
>>148593719
>>148594034
>>148594360
>>148594517
Fuck off already.
>>148594517
>>148594767
Shadow only fucksdeadhumans.
>>148594678
Fuck off Sonic
>>148594920
Sasuke and Sonic are both blue.
>>148595050
Sasuke has black hair retard. Are you this dense? He only wears that episode for the first arc and half of the second
>>148594916
He likes em cold.
Sonic shouldn't be shipped with anybody. Shipping sonic with someone undermines his character.
If he is shipped with anything, it should be chilidogs and adventure.
>>148595192
he only wears that outfit* I mean
>>148595283
Don't care who Sonic's shipped with as long as it's not Amy or Sakura
>>148595283
Sonic should be shipped in a box with free same day delivery.
>>148595283
Similarly, shipping Amy with anybody would undermine the fact that she will never get over Sonic.
>>148594202
The real problem is that a Chao Garden Go COULD be self contained like Pokemon Go but I feel the Garden does best when coupled with a Sonic game to spend your rings.
>>148595468
>implying she hasn't fallen for the troubled bad boy in place of childish Blueshit
hahahahahahahaha
>>148594920
The sad part isI like BOTH pink shits. Sakura gets me hard even though she's written like garbage.I think I just have a thing for cute violent girls.
>>148596043
How about you go back there yourself and stop shitting this place up with naruto garbage.
>>148596283
>implying I haven't been posting about the games here for the past 2 weeks
I'm just having some fun anon. This ShadowxAmy stuff is pretty good.
>>148595683
Sega doesn't seem to agree. And guess who owns Amy?
>>148596482
You haven't. Otherwise I would have noticed you shitting up the place sooner.
>>148596598
this is my first time posting Shadow. Gotta say, I'm having a blast. I'll just blend right back in once I'm done browsing Shadow x Amy pics. Anyway I'm nearly done, might get a few more from Zerochan.
>>148595192
Doesn't change the fact that he dressed in blue.
>>148597261
I'm only playing around anon, I'm not bothered by it. As a character Shadow's almost identical to Sasuke though.
>Shadamy
>Naruto references
>Anthros
Would this part of the thread be cancer, autism, or AIDS?
>>148597492
I just call it a bit of fun anon
>>148597446
Uh, no. Shadow got over his revenge-fueled temper tantrum and didn't murder a few hundred people in the process.
>>148597713
Pretty sure he was still being an edgy turd in the forest after everything was said and done. Shadow actually went on to fight for justice.
Justice > Being Edgy
>>148597852
most of what Sasuke was doing was justice. Danzo was justice, Itachi was justice. Also he helped save the world by sealing Kaguya and cooperated with Naruto in undoing Infinite Tsukuyomi. Shadow and Sasuke are only equally edgy.
>>148597974
I doubt forcing his brother to kill himself is justice.
>equally edgy
Nah. Sasuke is practically what started the whole edgy meme in the first place.
>>148598171
Rouge and Topaz, you mean?
>>148598171
any of you guys a fan of Tails Gets Trolled?
I think it has some good slow character development that goes from silly MSpaint to actual character development
>>148598703
Tails gets trolled is art.
>>148598703
I love how subtly it straddles the threshold between retarded and genius. There's just something about it that I can't put into words.
>>148598848
>>148598815
You guys got any favorite characters? I am a really big fan of Rob and Tails
Also digging that KittyxTails, because of how cute it is and how much i want them together. It's kinda weird
Also how far are you guys into the story?
>>148598703
>berserk out of hiatus and new anime
>hxh got out of hiatus(then back into hiatus)
>D. Gay Man got out of hiatus and got another anime
>TGT is ded
;-;
>>148599707
>implying the new berserk anime is worth mentioning
It's worse than Sonic Underground.
>>148599707
>>TGT is ded
Actually Lazerbot is doing good, he is getting back up on his feet and is working on stuff again real soon, so maybe we will finally see a conclusion to that big battle soon mate!
>>148599106
I think I read up to chapter 17, but I can't be sure. I haven't read them in a while. I don't remember which character I liked the most. There were a lot of them and they all had some pretty great moments.
>>148600096
If you wanna catch up on the series mate, i got a whole thing on a MEGA link
https://mega.nz/#!EE8RVCpL!nmIUEdCs1Gfjk96gKMzjX_B3HEdTItx5FILHGqo6s9c
>>148600313
Thank you very much, anon!
>>148586872
Looks like a Chinese knockoff of Darkwing Duck's kid.
>>148598703
>TFW the dub only has six parts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UzEHKyUZp4
>>148600825
Let me know what you think of the later chapters.
Thats when the really dark shit begins to happen ill tell you what.
And remember Kermit's Speech, it will make you rethink the series for a bit, thats my only clue
>>148601214
I'm writing a script to convert all of these into cbz files so they'll be easier for me to read. I'm thinking I'm just going to start reading it all from the beginning.
I can share the script if you want it.
would you a Miles?
>>148598378
Topaz is CUTE
>>148601404
>cbz files
Whats the difference than the normal files?
Also sure if you wanna, i already had my read through but i don't mind reading it again
Who is the cutest hedgehog out of the three and why?
>>148601563
.cbz files are just zip files that follow a standard so that comic book readers like cdisplay or sumatra can read them.
Sometimes .cbr is used as well, but that uses the rar archive format instead of zip, which is proprietary, and overall more of a burden to deal with.
>>148601760
Ah makes sense, You can share some if you wish, it sounds interesting
>>148601714
None of them are cute
>>148601714
Shadow's not cute, but he's definitely the hottest
>Been offline for a couple hours
>Dozen of deleted posts
So /sthg/ what's going on?
>>148594673
>High School fanfic-tier degeneracy
Well, >>148602871 proved your point.
>>148603005
Sonic is chimping out
>>148603005
It's all part of the master plan
>>148603085
I'll agree.
You have a chance to see your Waifu irl and get to do things with them as well as other stuff
But you must first complete Sonic 06 on hard mode with every-time you die, you have to start all over again back to the beginning.
If you beat this challenge your waifu will become real.
Would you take it?
>>148599707
>(then back into hiatus)
it's been confirmed to come back in September.
>>148601983
Actually, I think I'm going to cancel this little project. The files are all named pretty inconsistently, so it'll be much more work than its worth to create something that consistently produces the results I want.
>crush 40 will be at the party
>cosplay contest
What else?
>>148604609
A super-secret announcement about the future of Sonic. Also, more info on the movie. BTW, Rent-A-Hero's also getting a movie.
>>148604702
>Also, more info on the movie
I don't remember anyone saying anything about that.
>>148604576
Meh its fine, just give it a good read and let me know what you think of the later chapters.
Its nice to talk to another fan of TGT, its kinda like a underrated internet masterpiece in someway
Aaw shit I just realised I might actually be sitting in a field with no internet the weekend of the party. I'm going to miss everything.
I can't decide if this is great or terrible.
>>148604609
>cosplay contest
Oh god.
>>148599106
>kittyxtails
Oh, child, you have no idea what's going to happen.
>>148604702
>didn't know they were making a movie
>google it
>live action and animation
Please no.
>>148605934
>he's just finding out
It's also going to be PG-13 rated.
>>148605851
>implying i'm not up to date with TGT
Oh yea i already know what happened, and it was such a big shocker man.
Just hope Kitty makes it out ok, its still my fav ship and her and tails have such chemistry
Why did they think it was a good idea to animate sonic character's fighting by having them use flash steps? Nobody in the series is that fast. Not even Shadow using chaos control. Sonic could still see him when they passed each other back in SA2
>>148605354
Thanks again for sending those to me. I eventually just converted them all to comic file format by hand. The fruits of my labor can be found here: http://tails.rocks/tgt/
It is possible that I made a mistake wit hthe page ordering during the conversion. If I did, let me know and I'll fix it. I'll catch any mistakes myself eventually as I read through them all myself.
>>148607514
Because it's stylistic and looks cool
>>148607514
Sonic being able to see Shadow does not mean Shadow teleporting isn't that fast, because...well...as we all know... Sonic himself has super speed, and should logically be able to see something moving that fast.
>>148568649
This pic has so much charm to it.
>>148607594
So is shouting out attack names like the "Three strike hidden move: Earthcracker Slash!" but you don't see Sonic characters doing that, do you?
>>148607552
Thanks a whole bunch man, this will make reading them by myself a whole lot easier
On a side note, Lazerbot might actually be updating Chapter 21 in the near future, he posted something down in the comments section about his return.
Check it out here: http://ultimatelazerbot.deviantart.com/
Regardless, thanks man, is it ok if i use the link to redirect anyone else looking to give it a nice read?
>>148607514
>>148607723
Keep in mind it also wasn't his speed and that he was using the Chaos Emerald to warp, which might affect things.
>>148607862
"Chaos Control!"
"Chaos Spear!"
"Chaos Blast!"
"Sonic Wind"
"Hammer Punch"
"Knuckle Slam!"
"Psychic Control!"
"Sonic Boom!"
"Time Stop!"
>>148607862
>He doesn't remember SONIC WIND
>>148608060
Oh, you tosser.
>>148608083
It's not like that's a canon move of Sonic's he never used it after that fight.
>>148607876
Yeah, go on ahead. I think your readme needs some updating, as it seemed to be a bit out of date compared to what I found.
If you want to, you can make a pastebin of what you want in the readme and I'll put it on the site as well.
Maybe sometime in the future I'll also make an actual site instead of just a file listing.
>>148608389
Ah well the thing is, is that i didn't make this package of TGT, it was a left over from the last dump someone made.
It has all of the panels and everything that is up so thats why i offered it to you.
As far as i know you can edit it as you wish, any efforts on TGT is good in my book me matey.
What happened to him?
>>148608260
>Not a canon move
Says who?! Just because it's a special move in 2player mode and as a final boss, it's not canon? What?!
>>148609329
He took his meds and became a normal person.
>>148567578
So this is the last thread that celebrates 500, huh?
Wh...what will we do after its over...
>>148609846
Wait and see what the 25th anniversary party has in store.
>>148609846
wait for 600?
>>148609846
storytime the latest SU and do the /mmg/ does literally all the time: make OC's, make inappropriate ships, halfheartedly start roleplays, and abandon fan projects
>>148609329
He grew up and became less autistic
>>148609329
who is this
>>148609846
We wait for the party and react accordingly to what happens during it.
Goodnight, /sthg/
>>148612378
g'night
>>148601467
>Mullet Prower
>>148601467
>>148612525
That's silver you guys.
>>148612703
still a mullet