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>Great news!
-Monster Hunter Generations along with special edition N3DS XLs to release July 15.
-Demo is out, has online.

>I have a question!
http://pastebin.com/7Aa6HxUh
Includes links to the FAQ, weapon guides, charm info, and more.

http://kiranico.com/en/mh4u
Database with weapon trees, item locations, drop rates, etc.

https://sites.google.com/site/pingsdex
Same thing, in application form.

>Where does /vg/ play?
Create or find a Gathering Hall
Passcode: 7243 / Search
In 4U, Target: Fishing (it's 4 to the left)
In X, ターグット: Gathering フィールド採集 (page 1, middle right)

tinyurl.com
/weeaboos

Tags: MHGen, MHX, MH4U, MH3U, MHO, MHFU, MonHun, /mhg/

Previous thread >>147326498
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So I just went through the Spanish and German translations of weapons and Hunting Arts in the demo.

The Spanish version shows consistent quality, some knowledge of the Japanese original and that they at least put some thought into it when they couldn't find a good translation. Except for "reunión camaradas".

The German version has some moments of relative brilliance and several moments where I went "YOU ARE A FUCKING DISGRACE AS A TRANSLATOR!"
Internally, at least.
Brimstone Slash got downgraded to a Sulfur Slash; the Spinning Meteor slowed down to a merely Turning Meteor; Dragon Blast turned into Dragon Breath; Energy Blade is the regular name of the Charge Blade, so they had to use a synonym; Rapid Fire Rain dropped the Rain altogether; Big Barrel Bombays are big-barrel-bomb-y; and instead of using Palico Rally, prowlers call for a time-out so they can have a drink at their Buddy Get-Together.
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Hey buddy, you got that drop yet?
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>>147418672
>tfw cancer on the new thread already
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>>147418740
But that's not Frontier
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The fucking Owl is fucking retarded.
Like seriously.
When they showed it off i was just like "Well if you evade the status effects you'll be fine and it will be easy"

But it's not like the fucking reversed button inputs is just the Owls little gimmick he does every now and then, no HE DOES IT THE ENTIRE FUCKING TIME, and in order to NOT get hit by it at least once you have to play so fucking passively you have to give up 90% of gameplay. IT'S LITERALLY ON EVERY FUCKING MOVE WHEN HE'S ENRAGED

WHO'S FUCKING IDEA WAS THIS
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>>147418818
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>147419148
>ranged attacks
>adept style
>aerial style
>reverse your input

Git gud.
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>>147419195
Who's shitposting? That's really not Frontier.
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Alright, I'm relatively new to MH games, so I'm looking on Kiranico at the hammer list for X. For example there is an Ice hammer called Pressure Cooker that does only 170 dmg and 50 ele. While there are some physical only ones that do 270 damage, are they just straight up better?
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>>147419148
Nice blogpost, Upvoted.
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>>147418926
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>>147419509
Are those true raw values? I'm guessing not since dividing by 5.2 doesn't give a round number.
If they're not true raw it's way better, if it's just the displayed raw then element might beat the raw hammer in monsters really weak to element.

But overall element is a shitty mechanic and you're better off with pure raw,with the exception of a few monsters with fast weapons.
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>>147419468
It's not Gen either
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>>147419778
MHX/Gen displays true raw.
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>>147419902
What why

They dumped it for no reason and now bring it back? It's really B-team, isn't it?
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are you stoked?
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>>147419852
MHGen is overall accepted as the lord and savior of the dying MH franchise, plagued by the cancerous Frontier and MHO. Posting about MHGen is encouraged and applauded here on /mhg/.
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>>147420010
console mh games are always better though.
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>>147420010
Please stop shitposting.
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Any rooms?
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>>147421402
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>no one playing
>just shitty art dumps
How do we save this general?
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>>147421807
We wait until the 15.
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>>147421908
>we wait until it dies
Th-thanks
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>>147422009
I think most non-3ds modders is looking forward to Gen, I know I am. But I have lowered my expectations a bit, but it's monhun, can't be that bad
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On Adept CB, does a guard point count toward a perfect guard?
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>>147422695
No, but iirc you gain a GP on Adept, that is at the start of the charging A.
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>>147423165
Yea I knew that, was just hoping a GP counted towards it.
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>>147422695
No. Perfect Guards only occur on R button blocks.
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>teams keep being made out of LS, GL, CB

That's okay i didn't need these legs anyway.
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>>147423587
What's wrong with CB?
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When fighting Narga, if I hit the tail before breaking the spikes and without spikes out, am I maybe "saving" damage done on the spikes? Meaning the spikes could break more easily later, or does it simply not register as damage done to spikes at all?
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>>147423803
The axe mode infinite of Upswing > Burst 2, which CB will rely more on because it can't rely on AEDs as often.
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>>147423803

The reach of the axe, and the constant horizontal beyblading fucks up other players.
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>>147419979
MHgen is literally the frontier team.

Movement speed is slower than 4U, white sharpness is max, no grank content, item usage is slower than 4U (why do they think it is okay for recovery from using a potion to last 300 frames?) and hunter farts.

I'd say true raw values were the only thing they did right in MHgen cause its actually useful information for comparing between weapon types without literally having to fucking use google.
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MHX, chargeblade is still all around the best weapons.
>L/GL tier guarding
>LS tier attack boost from red shield
>H/HH tier stun damage from bursts
>GL wyvern fire tier damage from ultra
>LS tier movement speed and tail chopping

mh4 ruined the series cause now this godmoding fanfic of a weapon is going to be around forever.
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What's the most fun and/or fast paced weapon+style combo? Aerial GS is not as great as I thought it'd be.
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>>147424857

This is what CB users actually believe

>c-can do everything
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>>147423890
The tail and the spikes are the same part.
If you focus on the tail, the spikes will break first, before you cut it off.
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>>147424991
But it is a jack of all trades
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>>147424991
Nice rebuttal
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Does adept style for charge blade basically give you guard+2 and guard boost? Also I don't really like the overall changes to it. It feels much easier to use (even regular R is guard point, you guard during B charge sword etc) with less reward.
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>>147425169

Master of none
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>>147425256
Pretty much, yeah.
But it can compete pretty well in the KO and Shield department
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Hi /mhg/, two requests.

1) Do any of you have a Gore GQ with Kirin Head bias?

2) Do any of you have a double Seregios GQ, regardless of bias?

Needing a good Kirin head and I hear double Steve is good for graven charm farming.

I'd greatly appreciate it.
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>>147425115
Alright thanks, so there is actually a reason to hit the tail when the spikes aren't out.
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>>147425381
15-3116-9942-9843
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>haven't played mhx in months
>booted up because all the stupid threads
>continued using aerial gs
>destroyed hr7 brachy solo with just jumping spam
>close 3ds
TGS cannot come any sooner.
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Is there an agreed tier list yet on the weapons and styles? From what I've heard so far, it's roughly agreed that..

>GS
>Bow
>HBG
>SnS

are very strong weapons, while everything else trickles off to the back.
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I'm loving switchaxe in this game, it synergizes really well with adept (although I feel like adept is the best for most of the weapons).
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>>147426019
Didn't expect to see Bows in there honestly, what is it that makes them top-tier?
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>>147426102
I think is Adept Bow that is toppest tier
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>>147426019
I feel like LS is tied with SnS, if only just below it with its red upkeep being so much easier than 4U. I want to think Switchaxe is a close case also, but I cant quite tell just yet.

>>147426102
Bow's got a lot of modifiers in its attacks while being extremely mobile. If you're able to land consistent power shots and Triple Volleys, it can churn out a ton of damage constantly.

The 2 levels of coatings also means your damage wont fall off so hard when you run out of one power coating type like it would in 4U.
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>>147426232
I quietly agree. If it can get the combos off, a striker Saxe can belt out absurd levels of damage. There's also lots of praise of Striker lance/Glance as well.

I quietly think that if you can get your head around it, any adept style would be fantastic. My only gripe with adept is when I counter, sometimes my attack fires away from the monster due to the dodge roll.
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>>147425647
yeah I bet MHXG will be totally different
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>>147426383
>sometimes my attack fires away from the monster due to the dodge roll
never a problem with switchaxe thanks to the amazingly broad swings after a counter but the hammer almost always whiffs due to the shitty counter attack.
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>>147426019
If you want, you could make a tier list out of all the Jap speedrun times on various monsters.

Otherwise it doesn't really matter except for poor GL
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>>147426387
Three games per gen, yadda yadda.
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Anyone interested in farming some Hunter's ticket ?
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>>147426775
Maybe if you keep repeating that, it will be true.
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>>147426869
Likewise
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>>147426775
until there isn't.
>every gen has a console version, it's mhx hd
>every gen has a version on a sony platform, it's mhx vita
etc etc
you have no idea how pattern recognition works.
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>>147426940
MHXG Vita confirmed!!
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>>147426823
Post a room, was just looking into it.
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>>147426940
>2014, after MH4G announcement
>next game will definitely be MH5, there cannot be another game in a gen after a G game!
>2015, after MHX announcement
>next game will definitely be MH5, there can only be 3 games in a gen; one main game, one G game and a spinoff!
>2016, after 2016 MH sales target reveal
>next game will definitely be MHXG, it's only going to sell 2 million!
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>>147427093
fishing 7243
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So let me get this straight, in MHX there's no upgrade trees for LBGs and HBGs and instead you just craft all the different ones and upgrade them?
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>>147427660
That is incorrect.
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>>147427826
But that's what people showed in the videos.
You only upgrade the Bowgun you have (making it stronger but not changing it's attributes) and then you can attach barrels, silencer and thats it
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>tfw getting completely destroyed by solo Narga High Rank (MHP3rd)
Holy shit High Rank is completely different. I actually have to try here, why wasn't it like this from the very beginning.
Any tips for surviving High Rank?
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>>147427660
There's no limiter removal
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>>147428014
Yes, i know
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>>147427990
>Destroyed by Narg
How? Its a bit faster and hits a bit harder, but its not that much different. What weapon are you using?
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>>147427951
You upgrade the Bowgun you have, then you upgrade it into a different bowgun or max it out, just like the other weapons.
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>>147427990
survive
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>>147427990
Hit it, don't get hit.
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>>147428265
Sword and Shield. I guess it's because up till now I could be a little bit more aggressive and tank through, but now I really have to try and not get hit because I take a lot of damage.
It doesn't help that I get an extra monster in most missions just being annoying.
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>>147428572

Evasion +2.
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>>147428650
I'm already using the Low Rank Narga Set though, I wanted to upgrade into High Rank since that one gives Evasion +1.
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>>147428572
Get Evasion+1 at most (you can i-frame most of its stuff without it, but E+1 makes it a trivial fight).

Hack away at its hindlegs. Only go for the head when there's a large opening. If its going to lunge at you, roll away in the direction it'll approach if you far enough, or if you're too close, try to roll into its body at an angle.

If it sits for a second or two longer when it takes a stance, its going to do multiple lunges (and often its big pounce once enraged), so be mindful of that.

Also, dont be afraid to stop attacking and roll twice or roll+move if its about to tail slam. Its other spinning tail attack is easily dodgeable without E+1 with practice.

tldr: Practice till it doesn't kill you anymore.
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hey guys let's post monsters and not rooms
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>>147430342
K.
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G-Good morning /mhg/! How are you enjoying the demo? Have you found your favorite meme party setup like Football in 4U's demo?
>>147430342
How's this?
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Is it even possible to put CFW on the 3DS without losing all your old save data?
I know someone that lost everything and I haven't touched my 3DS in nearly a year because of that.
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Are evasion skills still in Gen? They seem completely redundant with adept style. Same goes for guard skills really.
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>>147431740
Yes, why would they be gone?
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Bird of many statuses
31-9846-2176-2051
rage
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>>147432045
This owl understands how to carnivals should be held
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Catbird of much jumping
29-3947-5648-2954
rage
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>>147433035
it's a bat
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>>147433126
It's a cat bat with 12% fat.
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>>147433035
>>147433126
It's batcat

Or was it catbat
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>>147433167
let's trim the fat then
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Anyone up for all-cat memeroom?
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>>147433281
Let's hunt this thing
17-8713-5922-7935
rage
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Man fuck these demo servers, hope the full game isn't like this
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>>147433770
>hope the full game isn't like this
lol
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>>147433281
good hunt
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Anyone know what the hell is written here?
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>>147434905
"The pleasure of being cummed inside"
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>>147435169
Well, I'm no stranger to that.
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>>147424376
there's no need for purple sharp without g rank though
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>>147434905
Blood menu:
Tasty blood, Rare blood.
Welcome!
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I want a pet narga
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>>147434905
Well, I know that the first letter in the lower row is an A. So the lower row starts with the a word that begins with an A
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>>147435446
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>>147435514
It's O, Oishi.
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>>147435380
Thanks, anon!
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>>147435590
Oh, Well, I know what an U looks like, a boat! Can't know all the characters, anon
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>Battle-ready restores sharpness
>Fast recharge time
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>>147435864
Not as good as it sounds.
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For Generations I will main the one weapon (actually two) I never really figured out:
Bowguns.

Any advice from MHX bowgun players?
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Lets hunt the narg
Pass: rage
ID: 17-3602-5812-0765
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>>147435446
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>>147436158
bushido
be in critical range when you shoot things
you'll know if you're in critical range because your screen will shake when the bullets connect with their target

different bullets have different critical ranges, pellet being the closest and pierce being the farthest away
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>>147436269
I know the theory. I've played Bow.
And I was kind of hoping for less obvious advice.

Speaking of less obvious: Is there any merit to Aerial Style Bowgun other than looking pretty damn awesome?
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>>147436164
2 spots left
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>>147436424
aerial styles are pretty whatever
if you want more specific advice I'd recommend asking more specific questions because saying you've never played a specific kind of weapon will bring people to assume you need to start at the basics
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>>147436168
I want to be that narga
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>>147436158
Different bullet levels function differently between each other

Basic bowgun information on the spreadsheet for MH4U on the Pastebin can apply over to MHX
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>>147436164
>finished it with follow up slashes of special
Muh dick
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With MHX less than two weeks off, let's do some 4U stuff.
Get your last GQs or whatever done.
16-4541-6073-8528
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I can't wait to stay up all night being a useless piece of shit hunting with /vg/ again
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>>147436542
Well, I do need basics, but Bowgun-specific ones. Bushido and critical ranges are the same for Bows.

What I need is stuff like proper aiming technique, assuming it should be possible to aim without using R, ammo management and Bushido-specific strategy.
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>>147437945
ok well aiming is possible without R but if their weakspot is above ground level you're obviously gonna want to aim manually to hit that shit

for anything ground level like narga or certain size raths while they're on the ground you can get away without manually aiming, you should already be able to do this if you play bow, I personally never use the 3rd person crosshair aiming

as for ammo? with hbg you'll probably want to start off with something that fires a good amount of normal 2 since that is your bread and butter as it does good damage and has a very flexible critical range.
lbgs have shorter critical ranges and rely on rapidfire to make up their damage, so you'll probably need to make a bowgun for each element otherwise you'll be wishing you had just brought a hbg instead. you'll already be familar with bringing combines for coatings so just do that for the ammo you plan on using on a hunt in place of shrooms and phials

bushido HBG lets you bushido dodge into siege and dodge out of it, letting you sit in siege mode a lot. specific opportunities differ between monsters so I'd recommend looking up a video guide for hbg fights in X as it's easier to see than trying to explain it
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>>147437945
get used to quickscoping son

bow can get away with not aiming a lot of the time, but bowgun shells fly closer to the ground
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Randoms don't know how to use traps but they always take them.
/mhg/ knows how to use traps but never takes them.

This is the Dunning Kruger effect. Please take the traps /mhg/.
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>>147439874
>no nothing

You may want to check your source anon.
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>>147440302
Haha, oh shit that's embarrassing. I just grabbed the first pic off google.
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>>147440302
Part of me want that to be a meta joke, but that's probably just a fuckup.
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>>147440832
If I won a nobel prize for a discovery that had jokes hidden in the the data, I'd probably chuckle myself to sleep every night.
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59-7000-4572-6544
2580
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Does /mhg/ like X's weapon upgrade system? Im not sure I like not being able to upgrade from one tree to another anymore but it may be better that way.
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Is the new MH game any good? Seems like they rereleased 4 with minimal additions.
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>>147429794
Finally fucking did it, got carted twice and burned through most of my consumables but I think I got the hang of Narga by now. Thanks a lot guys.
No Medulla though, so back to Narga it is.
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>>147441625
>not being able to upgrade from one tree to another anymore

you wot
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>>147441797
narga is basically your crash course in rolling through attacks, rather than away from them

you'll get there
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Anyone up for a triptastic longsword only room?

18-2149-5661-4819

7243
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Narga is worse than Barioth.
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>>147442524
>gen 3 mons
>anything but irredeemable garbage
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>>147442524
Sand Barioth>Narga =Tri Barioth >3U Barioth
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>>147441807
For example in Tri-4U You could upgrade from basic "trunk" like bone or Iron to other branches like jaggi or peco or from a standard monster's weapons into subspecies weapons. In some cases you could upgrade all the way from a rare 1 metal path all the way to a rare 10 elder dragon weapon. But looking at kiranico it seems like every weapon has its own singular line with numbered upgrades and thats that.
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>>147442625
gen 3 was the peak of the series. Nearly everyone agrees on this.
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>>147442732
Unless they just havent finished that wiki yet and its the same as before, in which case my question is invalid.
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>>147442732
>But looking at kiranico it seems like every weapon has its own singular line with numbered upgrades and thats that.

Kiranico's Generations section is fucked up and doesn't show you that weapons can branch into others.
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>people who make rooms and then don't start the quest once it's full

What kind of evil human being does this?
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This is an image board, post images ( and lewd ones ).
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>>147442889
Thats good to hear. Separate trees for every weapon would a nightmare in terms of grinding and management.
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>>147442750
everyone? you mean you and your 5 friends?

the peak of the series was freedom unite, lad
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>>147443121
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>>147443267
here we go !
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>>147443323
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>>147442750
I disagree
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>>147443121
Posting images is shitposting, post rooms instead or get out.
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>>147443323
Id me more excited about the shaka in 4U than the sexy huntress.
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>>147443463
Fuck off to the text board
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>>147442750
I agree.
>>147443414
Do you prefer gen 2? Each to their own.

We can all agree that 4 was a step backwards in all but animations, at least.
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so guys
miss cat?
or miss meow?
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>>147443121
Is this lewd enough for you?
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>>147443463
post room then faggot
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Is it true that IG sucks unless you're IG is perfect? And that I shouldn't use it till the end? I started MH4U and I wanted to use it but some things some anons said are making me anxious

Does someone have that chart on optimal Kinsect
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>>147442732

Are we back to Gen 2 weapon trees?

Yessssss
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>>147443586
No, I think Gen 1 and 2 are utter garbage, Gen 3 is great and Gen 4 is the best so far.
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>>147443689
not even close
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>>147443767
ig is fine it's just that there's a lot of quality of life behind having a good kinsect so you have to make sure not to fuck the growth up
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>>147443235
>the peak of the series was freedom unite
Gross, simply gross. FU was ugly and had unpolished gameplay and terrible weapon balance. It wasn't the peak of anything.
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>>147443724
I don't have a 3DS anymore
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>>147443235
>>147443959

Dos was the peak.

Damn PSP babies.
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>>147443994
Too bad. I feel sorry for you.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK5RSrMRSe0

MHO Volcano is damn gorgeous
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>>147443914
Holy contrarian, nargaman!
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>>147444125
Eh, it feels fine actually. It was a disappointment in the end.
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>>147443767
IG doesn't suck early on. The final upgrade just makes the buffs last longer so you don't have to shoot the bug as often. It's a quality of life upgrade like the other anon said. The problem is the upgrades paths to that bug are Power and Stamina, which are not the stats you want early on. You want to invest in Speed or the kinsect will move as slow as a slug. This means the best kinsect for the early game won't upgrade to the best kinsect for the late game. This isn't an issue if you don't mind making another IG for the endgame, which you probably will do anyway.
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>>147444521
If you say so. I could understand why people liked gen 3 so much but I have no clue why people like gen 1/2 other than pure nostalgia.
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>>147443959
it was objectively the peak of the series you fucking mongoloid
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>>147445285
I'm more puzzled at how one could even joke about 4 being better than 3.
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>>147445325
MH was crap before Tri.

Everyone tries to pretend otherwise but the brutal truth is that MH sucked ass and was only praised by PSP fanboys latching on to it since they didn't have anything else with a semblance of gameplay.
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>>147445325
>objectively
I don't think you know what that word means, champ.
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>>147445336
>water combat
>second easiest of the series
>shit mons
>UTTER FUCKING GARBAGE MAPS HOLY SHIT
>bloom everywhere

face it, gen 3 was awful garbage
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>>147445481
Oh and before someone asks, my first game was F2.
Not the oldest but I can admit the truth.
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>>147445610
>shit mons
>UTTER FUCKING GARBAGE MAPS HOLY SHIT

We aren't talking about FU, buddy.
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>>147445481
>MH was crap before the worst game in the series by a country mile
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>>147445610
Was nowhere as bad as you claim, you baby.
"mUH HARDCORE!!", just hunt naked like we all did.
lol
shitposting, better maps than both FU and 4U
Actual valid complaint but it's still in 4th gen so no reason to pin on just it.
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>>147445636
I enjoyed f2 because my first game was mh1
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Nintendo invented gameplay and fun
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>>147445325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewcLN1854qI

is this you?
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>>147445772
no one was talking about MHG dumb frogposter
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>>147445725
>he thinks anything beats gen 1/2 maps

i bet you think ledges and water are good and fun gameplay too

i'm not even a nostalgiafag, i started with 3u/p3rd

gen 3 was a slog that almost made me write this series off as garbage
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>>147445336
i consider them both very close but 4th gen introduced two amazing weapons, (mostly) good changes to existing weapons, great monsters and brought verticality to the series. I know that last point is very unpopular but I love how every zone isn't just a flat surface with no defining features.
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>>147445989
Okay, you're just shitposting now. gen 1 and 2 maps are trash, fuck off retard.
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>>147445935
>Where's my shitty hitboxes
>Where's my monsters that are predictable in AI and moves
>Where's my dark and gritty setting
>Where's my reskinned flying wyverns
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>>147443640
Miss Meow was the best. Her best moment is when she says "Korh" here
https://youtu.be/bZdbTMljexQ?t=2m38s
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>>147446015
You know that slopes, platforms and jumping are not new right?
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>>147446239
No shit but they weren't nearly as prominent as they are in 4th gen.
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2nd gen cannot be best because it doesn't have 3rd gen and 4th gen monsters.
3rd gen cannot be best because it doesn't have 4th gen monsters.
By default 4th gen is the best
They should've thought of that when they were making 2nd gen games.
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>>147446073
>detailed maps with character and small easter eggs, with large, flat arenas to fight monsters in
>worse than connected hallways filled with water, horribly imbalanced versus charging monsters like tigrex

spotted the gen 3 babby that is so casual he can't even look at screenshots of a real MH game without getting scared
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>>147446207

>monsters still aren't predictable in AI and moves

Until they get like 30 moves they get predictable after the first fight.
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>>147446537
Maybe Capcom should make the shitty gen 1 and 2 monsters do more than charge, tailspin, charge again to reflect map changes. But that'll never happen.
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>>147446015
Two lame weapons you mean, the entire bug gimmick of the IG is poorly implemented and there's no reason to not grab bilbotrix/ladytower and use the weapon like a fast LS. They brought no useful utility at all outside of gimmick builds with an impact piercing bug for a KO or two.
CB was just an uncreative hybrid of several weapons with the stupid explosions to please retards, ironically those are nothing now after styles and HAs.
As far as I remember only the GS got a noticeable and necessary improvement compared to 3rd gen with a longer charged combo and starting them from rolls, let's not even talk about how hammer, GL, LS and a few others were made worse.
>great monsters
There's like 4 good new monsters, and let's not forget the poorly adapted 1st gen monsters they brought. After the great porting from 3rd gen that's just insulting.
>verticality
Horrible feature that only deteriorated the game, only good thing it brought was mounting which made breaking some hard to reach places easier in single player and gave breathers to the team in multiplayer.
>I know that last point is very unpopular but I love how every zone isn't just a flat surface with no defining features.
"muh graphix"
subcstance > flair
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>>147446207
Verticality makes monsters super predictable now.
Just stand on top of a platform and they feel compelled to climb up.
Attack when they do.
Then stay down and they will feel compelled to jump down.
Climb up and they do.
Rinse and repeat.
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>>147446694
FUbabbies are asshurt that their monsters are only difficult when shitty design and mechanics are in place.
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>>147446846
*climb up when they do
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>>147446846
Who the fuck does this?
It's like you want your hunts to take forever so you can cheese the monsters.
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Capcom should've thought of putting 4th gen AI when making 2nd gen games. What were they fucking thinking?
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>>147441693
>>147441693
>>147441693
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>>147447124
no it's shit, now get out.
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>>147447057
It's to prove the "dumb" AI. However new the AI is, they are always bait-able.
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>>147447101
Cars are better than wagons even if the latter was the best they could do at the time.

>>147447124
If you want to play Monster Hunter 4U:Frontier
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>>147447193
This is what we need to calm down, cute monsters.
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>>147447261
In this case, it's still a wagon, but now with rounder wheels.
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>>147446717
The first half of your post is nothing but buzzwords so I'll skip that.
>There's like 4 good new monsters
I'm curious to know what 4 you like if you hate all the others.
>and let's not forget the poorly adapted 1st gen monsters they brought
Agreed, a lot of the returning monsters are garbage, but certainly not all of them. Narga and Rajang for example are great.
>Horrible feature that only deteriorated the game
How so?
>"muh graphix"
That wasn't a complaint about graphics, it's a complaint about every zone being completely flat and uninteresting. Trust me, I am the farthest thing from a graphicsfag
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>>147447369
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Best monster AI ever is Behemoth from FFXV Episode Duscae.
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>>147447474
>The first half of your post is nothing but buzzwords so I'll skip that.
All right so it's only fair I skip your baiting.

Except for the monsters, Gore, Nerscylla, Seregios and Najarala.
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>>147447654
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>>147447474
>Narga and Rajang for example are great.
Narga was ported in 3rd gen and all it needed were trimmed hitboxes since the moveset is basically the same. Rajang is slightly modified but already had a good hitbox in 2nd gen too.
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>>147447835
game is about to be the first FF game i've played since 7 and 1-3. purely so I can play a high budget MH-esque game on something other than a fucking handheld.
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>>147447763
Asking you to explain why verticality is a horrible feature that deteriorated the game is bait? Okay anon, sounds like someone is a bit defensive.
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>>147447654
>>147447835
this shit looks like fucking kingdom hearts and the monster moves as much as lao
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>>147448323
>openly disregard someone's post
>act like you've won an argument when your empty arguments are ignored in response
The only thing you won were were these (You)s.
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>>147448407
That's not Generations, anon.
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>>147448264
but all the budget goes to voiceacting and cgi cutscenes
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>>147448264
There's also Horizon for me personally, but there's minimal melee in that. But seriously Behemoth is really impressive in Duscae.
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>>147448738
Half like MH!
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>>147448610
The only argumentative part of my post was the question you refuse to answer. Next time don't spout buzzwords like the blatant retard you are and you won't be ignored.
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>>147448892
(You)
Nice combo!
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>>147448264
>he thinks its going to be even remotely like MH
>damage numbers
>no hitzones
>spammy mindless combat
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>need to grind a specific monster so I can make armor/upgrade weapon
>set up a room, with said specific monster set as the room target
>someone joins
>start mission since nobody else is joining
>we both get ko'd once and he quits back to hall
>as soon as I get back he immediately runs over to quest lady and posts something completely different
I'm getting tired of these idiots always trying to jack my room. Go make your own fucking room if you need something else, damn.
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>>147449091
>spammy mindless combat
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>>147448738
MH is bordering into FF territory already. It's the natural progression as these things become more and more easier to do. Also Capcom have this franchise called Resident Evil if that rings a bell.
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>>147449201
your point?

that isn't a MH game either
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>>147449201
A spinoff is not a good example.
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>>147449480
Nice.
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>>147449581
>spinoff
laughingemoji.png
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>>147447654
how exactly is that "best monster ai". because it tries to attack you? doenst seem much different than anything mh has to offer,
haven't seen anything else of it though
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>>147449091
Check it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WuqGTC6Z14
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>spinoff
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Assuming MH's future direction based of X/Gen is like judging it based off cellphone games.

Mainline is probably not getting much flashier than it always was.
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>>147449738
See this >>147450132

It's crazy
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>>147450387
>its ok bro they'll just throw everything they worked for into the trash
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>>147450715
>Everything they worked for
Well, yeah, this isn't a good argument. They made a game just for the purpose of celebrating the anniversary, it's a celebratory title.
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>>147450715
>dude they're totally going to dumb down shit that is already selling instead of just making a separate game for casuals with no G rank lmao
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>>147450829
>dude it's not mainline because it's anniversary, ignore all actual spinoffs outside of frontier using X monsters together with mainline ones :^)
>>147450832
>dude how do MH titles work lmao im waiting for P3rdG btw
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Why does the demo have shitty weapons with higher rank monsters?

Did they get tired of all the meme videos of 4U demo players absolutely trashing the demo monsters?
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>>147451057
It literally isn't mainline
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>>147451159
LITERALLY
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