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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, June 30th:
1520 – Spanish conquistadors led by Hernán Cortés fight their way out of Tenochtitlan.
1688 – The Immortal Seven issue the Invitation to William (continuing the English rebellion from Rome), which would culminate in the Glorious Revolution.
1908 – The Tunguska event occurs in remote Siberia.
1917 – World War I: Greece declares war on the Central Powers.
1934 – The Night of the Long Knives, Adolf Hitler's violent purge of his political rivals in Germany, takes place.
1936 – Emperor Haile Selassie of Abyssinia appeals for aid to the League of Nations against Italy's invasion of his country.
>News
HOI4 DD17/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-june-17th-patch-1-1-red-ball-express.949237/

CK2 DD 11 - The End of Days
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-developer-diary-11-the-end-of-days.950847

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[CK2 - 2.5.2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.1 - 20/06/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

Old Thread >>146968702
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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Incomg steamgroup butthurt.
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Nicky
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>no Darkest Hour in the infopic
Fuck off with these steamgroup threads
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>>147017882
What?
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what's the secret of blitzkrieg in HOI4?

Should I make a lot of infantry armies and send them to hold the front, and then other armies that are composed solelly of armor and mobile infantry and send them to break through the line? and lots of CAS?
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>>147018014
No you need armor, fast armor.
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>>147018165
This.
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>>147017690
Ooooooooooo say can you seeeeeee
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Can any of you lads gift me the old gods for ck2 while it's still on sale?
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>>147018746
what mod
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>>147018746
Sure, post your steam id.
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>>147018746
no but you can kys you leeching dreg
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>>147018746
Just pirate it wtf
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>Over 500 hours in eu4 and ck2
>Don't understand how to play hoi4

Having to build and micro actual armies confuses me.
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>>147018706
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>>147019261
>hoi4
>micro anything
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>>147019261
Turkeys on the wrong side there lad
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>>147019261
>people still post this image without knowing what happens
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I usually avoid this general because of the memelords, but why does no one like blobbing?

Is it not historically accurate? Because Imperial Rome was like blob central.

Also, what is preferred opposite of blobbing? having tiny slices of land scattered about the world, none of them connecting to one another(ie, border gore)?
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>>147019261
>micro

m8 you draw some lines, hit go, and let the game do the work
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>>147019674
A country that hasn't blobbed has taken over land that the country would logically take in such a way that the borders are aesthetically pleasing
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EU4

Civil war in my neighbor. Do I wait for it to finish and drain their manpower or invade during it so he can't defend?
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This is historically accurate.
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>>147018857
can you email it?

[email protected]

last time my shit got fucked up
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>>147020065
Anything that is disadvantageous to your enemy, is an advantage for you.

Strike when they show you their soft belly, and be sure to pierce it good.
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29th for Action Française

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpjKA3CKyC8
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>Conservative party believe in Interventionism
fug
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Is that peace deal enough ? It seem no one will get back from this for a long time, and all the major powers will become fascist.

Britain has been fascist for a long time already and I as France went fascist 10y ago after a random coup so I went with it for fun.
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>>147019283
>not taking Tsargrad

What are you, a cuck?
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>>147020934
No
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>>147020934
Yes it is.
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>>147020560
that's not even from Art of War, you faggot.
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>>147019649
>Poland and the anglosphere escape
Im not sure what to think or feel.
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>>147020934
Is that a free SGF?
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>>147018165
It's pretty often coming to win the battle fast and with no halt than to move faster with tanks, I think breaking through the lines is more important than closing the encirclement faster
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>>147021131
is it from a anime
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>>147021780
its a dlc
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>>147021780
Art of War is a book by Sun Tzu(Wu).

it's pretty much "common sense: the book" and "Deceit is the ultimate weapon: the book"
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>Doesn't want jacobin up in my butt
>Let liberals do what they want
>Lessaiz-faire happens
fuckkkkkkkkkk
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Retard here. How do I use the Vicky 2 tools?
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Are light tanks better than medium in HOI4?
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so what do you lads think of hoi4?
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>>147022263
Light tank is only good for stomping AI with no AT
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>>147022263
Light tanks move fast. Don't upgrade your light tank divisions. If you need to hit harder, duplicate the template, and make separate medium tank divisions.
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>>147022152
>playing russia
>from 1836 to 1900 slavophile/octobrists (interventionists) in power, from 1900 on kadets (laissez-faire) in power
>go from 0 industry in 1880 to 2500 and second in the world in 1920
Loving the lazy fairy meme
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Soon, Riga will be mine.
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>>147022869
Aha, there you are

In terms of vassalizing Schweden, I'd prioritize Norway over the swedes.

Don't forget about the Slovaks.
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>>147017795
Codreanu
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>>147023065
Should I remove the eternal DLC maker?
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>>147023272
Give it to Norway.
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>>147022305
its good
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>>147021552
Yeah, I never let Germany form and they were at time allies, at times enemies. There they were with me and the Union of Britain in the Great War against Rus and the NGF.

This is ~1 year after the Great War.
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>>147023351
>give it to Norwegen
Alas, Norwegen is allied with Danemark. It will be a huge naval war.
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>>147023351
So, you're saying that I should vassalize Norway, then go to war with Sweden, and make them gib back Norway clay?
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>>147023065
>Slovaks
Where? Slovakia is preussischer clay.
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Should I give it back to Greece?

I got it from my puppet after releasing Albania to take the decision to incorporate them.

>>147023613
Yes. You can use them to make a Scandinavian vassal if you want
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how can we make the HOI4 AI produce anti tank shit so they aren't so bad?

someone make a mod NAU
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>>147023741
Alrighty. I'm cooking up a CB against Norwegen. I'll vassalize them, then immediately begin removing Johan.
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>>147023887
Post yfw the Mecklemburg dynasty rules over Prussia, France, Tuscany, Scotland, and Ferrara.
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>>147023741
>6.1% literacy
lad
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>paradox fucked up the only thing which satisfies my autism
>go back to hoi3
>can't enjoy it because there's no equipment and no hoi4 division template
>literally have nothing to do with my time anymore
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO NOW?
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>>147024267
How do I bring it up?

Also, how do I encourage soldiers faster?
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>>147022831
laissez-faire seems good when you have a shit ton of regions to develop i guess
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>>147024418
suicide bomb paradox hq
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>>147024472
Get clergy/intellectuals up to 4% in each state. 2% is for max research points, 4% is for max literacy growth. Also make sure you've got good admin. efficiency in each state. If it's really low, POPs won't promote/will only promote slowly. Also research the middle column in culture, at least to Biologism for that sweet, sweet Darwinism +50% education efficiency.
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>>147024472
pay up education
research education
get 2% intellectual, up to 4%
without literacy, your country gonna stay a shithole forever

>literacy as low as some african nations
top niggered
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>>147024418
waggle your willy
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reminder to keep your troops well supplied, /gsg/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0KRF7jvvV4
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>>147024418
play steeloria 2
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>>147024701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EllBqKSdt90
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>>147024701
I only feed mine the best in canned heads of wheat, whole fish and whole cattle
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I was holding off going to war with czechia for berlin because of their alliance with mainz (the south german gp), but now that the poles are at war with both it's a good time for me to strike
also check my bureaucrats
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In Vicky 2, why does the US insist on sphering every East Asian/Middle Eastern country it can?
Is there any way to stop this retardation?
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>>147025861
conquer them

if they don't exist they can't sphere
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Where do I look in order to edit who can be cardinals in the Catholic church? i.e. make an orthodox patriarch a cardinal
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>>147026202
jews did 9/11
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>>147026202
answer my question>>147026202
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>>147026050
I DONT KNOW
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>>147025861
America wants dat oil.
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mainz is going to slip from gp and then I'll do an add to sphere cb
and then sphereing the rest of the cunts is easy
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Hey faggots, how long will it take to assassinate someone in CK2 with a plot power of 58%?
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>>147027532
A while
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maybe this is good enough
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you know I was doing this to meme around and didn't expect good results but I guess the liquor+bureaucrats strategy indeed does unironically work
I'm producing a fuckton of liquor, more than just the pic shows, and it's all very profitable
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>>147023387
Finally the end.
Peace did not last long in eastern Europe as newly created states waged war against each other.
Fascist Russia fell from from GP and never recovered in 6 years. Britain stopped being fascist.
And I went to war after a political outrage against Canada and liberated most French-speaking provinces from their grasp and released Québec as a satellite.

Fun game.
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>>147028363
forgot pic
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>>147028691
Except you've built things other than liquor factories, so you're not even meming anymore, you're just powergaming.

Yeah no shit building the most profitable factory in the game in every state is a good idea, that's why it's a meme in the first place you dip.
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>>147028443
>Peace did not last long in eastern Europe as newly created states waged war against each other

that's why you should have sphered and puppeted all of them
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>>147028895
I didn't build those, the capitalists did.

maybe you're right though, perhaps I should close them...
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>>147028954
Didn't have time in 1.5y (~4y of war cooldown after the end of the Great War in 1930) to puppet anyone in east Europe.
I sphered a good portion of them but those allied to Italy, Britain and Sweden started shiting the place up.

Only thing I regret is not having time to dismantle the Ottomans, it's just a disgrace, especially since they were socialists since the end of the previous century.
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What is the easiest start in ck 2?
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>>147029906
any king, emperor
or just uninstall.exe
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should I make heavy tank divisions, or are they not worth it?
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>>147029906
Semien
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>>147028691
holy shit anti-liquormemers BTFO
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>>147030165
you can make anything you want lad. The game is extremely easy in its current stage
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>>147028363
But it's only the 1850s. Wait until you reach the 20th century and see the new hights of profits your epic high tech mega industrialized factories will achieve.
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>>147030356
naval domination isn't extremely easy though

Unless you are USA or UK
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Can anyone explain raiding to me in CK2? How do you do it, and how do you make it profitable? The couple of times I have tried it I haven't made shit and I think I was doing it wrong somehow.
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>>147031332
You go and smash rich places and then return home with 800 gold.
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>>147031332
you need to raid places that have a good loot.
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>>147031332
Venice is the easiest target. They have pretty shit levies, their holdings are mostly wealthy towns, and they're on an island no one else can reach without boats.
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>>147022305
the ai is bad
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>>147031434
>>147031437
>>147031580
Yeah I was pretty sure location was my problem or at least part of it. I'm Finland, so in earlier times I'm about as deeply surrounded by other tribal nations as you could possibly be.
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>>147031721
I assumed you meant coastal raiding. Raiding your neighbors by land is pretty shit. Get in boats and raid, then when you return you get all the prestige and gold from raiding at once.
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>>147031824
Yeah I don't have a lot of boats but I should have enough and they're not doing anything else... Any advice on choosing a target?
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oh good
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Working on the color map now-been a while since I touched it up.

Considering using decals like pic related in some of the water TI. Good idea?
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>>147032038
is that slovenia
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>>147032070
is that for ck2 or eu4 ?
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>>147032109
no
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>>147032225
CK2

EU4's tag system is too limiting for my tastes.
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>>147031935
siege Konstantinople fagget
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>>147031935

Venice and other Merchant Republics are good targets if i remember correctly. Also Rome and Paris maybe
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>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01*°
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.5*°
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - 7 Years v4.1*
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.5*
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t

>>[V2] Liquor and Bureaucrats Mod 1.2*°
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ r1s3v3z0d17ctya/liquornbureaucrats.rar

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin*
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB

* The R&I will hate you if you download this
° Alex da Silveira and his Grandi Youth will hate you if you download this.
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>>147032070
You're just making me miss WoW now
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>>147032867
Please remove 7 years from this shitlist, I don't want it associated with waggles and literal meme mods.
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>>147023353

even though it doesnt even remotely follow history??
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>>147033086
video games are for playing, if you want pristine historical accuracy read a history book.
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>>147033049
Update your mod and I'll take you out of the list.
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WHY THE FUCK CAN'T HOI4 FOLLOW HISTORY A LITTLE BIT GODDAMN?!
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>>147033334
HISTORY IS RAILROADING SYMMETRIC STARTS NOW
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>>147033334
>>147032867
>>147033371

AAAAAAAAAAH!!! Every FUCKING day with these STUPID fucking MEMES! I've had it up to HERE with stupid fucking memes! You guys make me want to KILL MYSELF! Is that what you fucking want? For me to fucking KILL MYSELF and write on my suicide note "Cause of suicide: Couldn't handle all of the stupid fucking memes , killed myself"? Because that's what it might as well fucking say!You guys are literally, LITERALLY incapable of having even the SIMPLEST of fucking discussion without "MEME THIS, MEME THAT, PROBABLY COMMIE NICKY, HERE'S A PIC OF unHPM BY JOHANN WILLY, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA EBIN AMIRITE?"

Do you literally do ANYTHING productive with your lives other than post stupid fucking memes on the videogame generals section of a god damn anime imageboard? You fucking people make me sick and you're damn lucky I don't have any of your fucking addresses you fucking pieces of shits. I'd spit in your faces.
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>tfw igniting the Great War in 1922 as Russia to take Gujarat, Rajputana and Central India from the UK and force them to release Persia
Russian industry must have its cotton.
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>>147033371

it doesnt have to be railroading dumbass

but Italy invading Russia?

Germany and Japan invading Africa?
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>>147033459

then why the fuck are you on the internet if you hate memes?
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what are the best buildings in cuck kings 2?
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>>147033808
Some people get online for the porn.
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>>147033617
Actually, Italy did send a couple soldiers on the eastern front and don't forget about >muh Afrika Korps Desert Fox Rommel best general of all time
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>>147024418
I do like the equipment. There needs to have an alert where you don't accidentally produce an extra 20,000 AA guns.

I would have liked factories dedicated to engines, and factories dedicated to guns, and a vehicle designer where you put together the engine, guns, and armor on a body, and even get a bonus to production if you follow historical templates. Want to save production time on aircraft by having fixed landing gear?

Save on production by sending your obsolete tanks back to the factory to become tank destroyers and self-propelled guns. Send ships back to drydock to be fitted with additional AA and radar. Send a cruiser back to drydock to be converted into a carrier.
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>>147033808
>>147034069
>>147034081
>>147034173
>>147034251
talex
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>>147033617
Italians made the last two successful cavalry charges in history on the Russian front.
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>>147034069
Anything that generates revenue.
All the levy buildings pale in comparison to the ability to make more money and hire more mercenaries.
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>hoi4 AI still fucking blows
I could overlook all the other little flaws in the game because of all the cool shit it brings to the table but the AI is literally game breaking

So glad I pirated
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How much more blobbing should I do?
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>>147035048
>blobbing in bulgaria
>blobbing in romania
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>>147035048
>9.3% literacy in 1872
lad
Russia starts at like 6% literacy and I got it up to 30 or 40% by the '70's.
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>>147035048
>importing steel
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>>147035048
Just get the rest of that meme country Romania.
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>>147035048
lose that romanian dick lad and you've got proper yugoslaviums
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>>147035257
I'm trying lad

>>147035325
Banat?

>>147035272
Were both in Russia's sphere for the time being.
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>>147035427
Dobruja. It looks disgusting.
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>>147024691
>research education
literally where?
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Is the /gsg/ mod still usable in patch .19987 ?

Game starts but I keep seeing the exclamation mark symbol in the mod manager...
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>>147035615
Middle column of culture tab. Social thought or something like that. Between the NF techs and RP multiplier techs
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>>147035048
>two sicilies
>sicily
https://youtu.be/8C61TRoMYjg
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>>147033049
How do we know it's you? That trip isn't mentioned in the pastebin
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>>147035615
>not getting biologism for that sweet 50% bonus
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Seriously is the AI in HOI4 still total shit?
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>>147035840
Yes.
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>>147035615
Also the latest tech in that reinforcement tree gives huge education bonus IIRC
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>>147035896
>tfw even if it wasnt shit there is still no antartica in the game
>you cant use the coastline for sub bases or even have antarctic warfare over the provinces that house the bases because of the trade routes being affected by the subs

rrrrRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>147035771
Check the original pastebin that's linked inside it http://pastebin.com/tsPsr70u

It's not listed there because when I lost internet for a month someone else else took over the mod with my permission (and then didn't do much of anything with it)
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>>147035840
Yes it is

>>147035896
>using a gif version of something that has a webm
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>>147036123
>You can find me on /gsg/ with the trip !GG1SfzBGbU or on discord as "Girlfucker420"
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I am a Maronite merchant republic and plan on making phoenicia and supporting crusaders. What kind of borders should I go for and how should I influence the surrounding region?
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>>147036071
>wanting antarctica
They didn't even give us winter fighting equipment.
Don't you think you expect a little too much from such a small family business company?
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>Wake up
>Still no torrent
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>>147036195
>le discord liquormeme boogeyman
>le "any form of non-anonymous communication triggers me" autism face
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>tfw have stoppped playing HoI4 entirely

>tfw playing righteous Stellaris 1.2 instead
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anyone know how to turn off/cheat my way out of dany's breaking of chains event spam in CK2 AGOT?

it's actually retarded and will result in neverending war considering the cities almost instantly revert back to slavery after I win the war.
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>>147035048
anyways m8s the turks now have their capital and Ankara, I'm justifying right now.

Should I expand overseas into Libya, or just focus on Thrace for now?
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>>147036505
Jesus Christ, Johen could use some sit-ups.
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>>147036659
As a south slav, kebab is your primary target.
Do you even want to meme?
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>>147036659
It's 1874, your literacy is 9,9% and your industrial score is 9. You need to stop warmongering for a while and try to improve your country
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>>147036659
Retake Constantinople!
Remove kebab!
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>>147036559
That is a glitch, I think caused by the Tyroshi/Lyseni war, because it triggers two but activates another when you finish either one.
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>>147036659
Take Libya, then improve internal situation of the country. They need it.
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>>147036934

hm, anyway to stop it or do I have to start a new game and cross my fingers i dont get glitched again?
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>>147035686
I think it breaks the AI.
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>>147036024
Yeah. Mass-marketing gives a 25% bonus to education efficiency
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>>147033617
I watched Pyrion Flax, a vaping shitter of low quality, who loses to Lewis fucking Brimley at Civ 5 over and over, conquer a huge chunk of the world as Romania. This game is retarded.
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>>147036659
>0.6 percentage point increase in literacy in 2 years
LAD
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>>147036659
An oppertunity to take Banat has presented itself.

Y/N?

>>147037068
>>147036827
In all seriousness, what factories should I prioritize?
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>Montreal has to stretch across the St Lawrence River and stop me from being able to neatly divide up across the river and take everything south of it
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>>147037471
>what factories should I prioritize
Is this even a question?
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>>147037142
You should be saving regularly with mods. So yeah, start over. Not like Dany is hard, just repetitive. I usually savescum for the right outcome in her events anyway.
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>>147037632
Really need an imgur album or something of these dank Willys 2bh.
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>Crusader Kings II Collection is $40
>on sale for 75% off
>$160 when not
Jesus.

At least EUIV isn't too bad, being only $25 on sale, but it's still $100 when not.

Why is there so much DLC?
What of it is actually worth getting?
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>>147038070
getting from the steam store? none
getting from the archive? whatever you want
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>>147038070
Get the base game. You can find and activate the dlcs from the archive.
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Questions about CK2 from a newb...

I'm a Petty King of Ireland right now and it's like 780 AD. I've got one duchy and another duchy that I can't afford to make a title for yet. So my questions are:

Who should I be giving my holdings to? Men from my dynasty only?

What do I do with the bishops that I inherit from taking over a county? They always hate me and I often see the warning about losing the title when they die?

Will my vassals always want to be on the council? Should I just ignore their demand to be on it? They seem to have shitty stats most of the time.

Finally, is there anything I can do to prevent my lands from being divided up due to gavelkind succession? I figure I need to change my succession laws, but my only option is one that seems even worse. Will I get more options as time goes on?

Preemptive thanks for any guidance.
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>>147037607
Yes it does you fucking mongler, because it literally stretches across both banks, as does the entirety of french Canadian civilization and culture you blobbing shit.

River borders are the purest form of cancer.
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How stupid is it to run a campaign from CK2 to HoI3 using save converters?

>tfw no Vicky 2 to HoI4 converter
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>>147038145
>it's like 780 AD
Yes, Ireland is the tutorial island but not that early. You'll get harassed by vikings no stop, also Charlemagne start is completely shit, start again in 1066
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>>147038179
>River borders are the purest form of cancer
But they look the prettiest
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>>147038225
Ok, that makes sense. I just figured starting even earlier than 1066 would give me more time to fuck around and learn.
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>>147038276
>lets divide egypt along the nile
>lets divide hungary along the danube
>lets divide america along the mississippi
>lets divide india along the ganges
literally you right now.
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>>147037607
Make them release Canada lad, or Rupert's Land. Then sphere annex. Unless HPM disabled that in newer versions.

>>147037471
Try to get a steel industry going. No memes, steel is a base of an industrial country. Machine parts is a nice secondary, since needed more and more as time passes.
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>>147038382
Playing Ireland that early will only teach you how to get raped by Vikings, it's okay if that's what you want I guess. About your other questions

IIRC, because you started that early Ireland started as tribal so they only have gavelkind. In 1066 you'll start as feudal and not gavelkind IIRC, so that won't be a problem. Yes, tribals can only have gavelkind, that's pretty much the only reason why people feudalize ASAP

Just keep your vassals happy, making them on council or giving holdings only to your dynasty won't really matter much, though IIRC your dynasty members love you more by default

That warning about losing the title is usually a bug, let the game run for a few days and it usually fixes itself. You can check their successors in their character pages, just make sure that dude doesn't have a higher title waiting for him in other kingdoms than yours. I guess you can figure this part yourself in character screen
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>>147038657
Thanks m8

After deliberation, I have decided to let Russia keep their piece of Africa
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>>147038706
Thanks bro.
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Would you support HPM joining Johan's crew to work on Vic 3's economy?
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Post yfw you discover that resources can't be stockpiled in HoI4, and instead vanish into thin air unless used or traded.
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>>147039063
the same face I had when I realized that unsold goods produced by factories get thrown into the void in vic 2
why the FUCK is paradox so inept at simulating goods, or fucking anything for that matter
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10627149

http://www.strawpoll.me/10627149

http://www.strawpoll.me/10627149
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>This tech is essential for nations that pass lots of social reforms, as these increase the amount of administration needed.
what
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>>147022305
>>147031714

The AI does stupid shit, and I mean at the high and low level it's all fucked. I'll be fighting some other country and they'll occasionally leave the front line with gaps in it to reinforce somewhere else, so i'll just end up walking through and decimating whatever they left behind. Realistically, the AI should just build new divisions if they don't have enough to cover everywhere, even if they're untrained that's better than nothing.

Also AI Hitler is fucking retarded and always declares war on people regardless of the situation. Once I saw Germany move all of their troops from Poland to France after crushing Poland and then, right when they had their army all near France they declared war on the Soviet Union. Fucking why?
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>>147039554
Balanced for MP play, no need for AI

>>147039063
>mfw no equipment gain when overrun 300k men pocket
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I'm looking through some old /gsg/ polls on poal.me and most of them 0 votes or reduced number of votes, why is that?
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>>147039063
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>>147039775
>mfw closing a pocket with 500k men doesn't push the warscore at all
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>tfw no late night shitposters
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I need some help im currently playing hoi3 with blackice 8.4 as norway and everytime i get a trade offer its like 6 countries offering that same exact thing is this a bug?
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>>147040056
well, that makes sense to me because it forces them to recruit more people and that has it's own mechanics to fuck that person over.
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>>147040093
go to bed mr. clapper
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>>147039063
that's realistic though you fucking faggot.

The world stockpile TODAY is 41 bbl, or 41 days of oil consumption. What makes you think you could store enough oil (because let's be realistic, oil is the posterboy for the resource system) to make a significant dent in consumption, much less new production?

If you're going to complain about anything, complain about the lack of oil consumption by units; why does it cost oil to build aircraft, but not to fly them?
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>>147040248
The US stockpile of oil would last 158 days as of February...
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>>147040093
>night
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>>147040426
Right. Usually wars take more than 5 months.

>>147040248
I got it wrong; it's 4.1 bbl, which is still 41 days.
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>>147040194
It just pisses me off that fucking Japs won't surrender unless you invade their mainland because of this victory points bullshit. Doesn't matter if they hold no ground on the continent, lost 2mln men, got their fleet decimated and have their islands bombed into oblivion and tuned into radioactive wasteland.
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>>147040194
Well, losing half a million men in one go should really push your country closer to capitulation, especially when playing as a democratic nation
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>>147040548
I've been there, yeah, they need to make wars versus non-great powers not total war.
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>>147040548
It also makes defensive wars utterly nonsensical.
>Oh, this large nation and his alliance across the sea declared war on me?
>Guess I have to invade and occupy them
>All of the major ones
>I just wanted to be left alone but I guess I gotta do that now
>War weariness isn't a thing, suing for peace isn't a thing
>In the grim darkness of 1945 there is only war
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>>147040248
>because let's be realistic, oil is the posterboy for the resource system
why did paradox do this, the us was the only fully motorized country at the end of the war and the wehrmacht was something like 80% horse drawn
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>>147040669
>Germans declare war on Poland
>Kurwa, nothing for it
>Orders are orders, straight to Berlin!
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>>147040669
>In the grim darkness of 1945 there is only war
kek, sad but true.
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>>147039063
They made a fucking stockpile for equipment why couldn't they extend it to resources? Make absolutely no sense
Why not make every single brigade type that have to do with machinery in game require fuel as 'equipment' input. Make this fuel have 0 reliability so that it disappear really quickly. Then you can produce this 'fuel' from oil at some rate. Might need some extreme balancing since equipment failing isn't calculated each hour.
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>>147040769
At the very least they could have a surplus of resources give a boost to your civilian economy somehow. Not to the extent that trade would benefit you, but SOMETHING
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>>147040669
>Nukes can't even reduce national unity below 10 or 15 percent
>BEFORE national spirits
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>>147040490
5 months of stockpiled oil is better than literally none, it's enough to oh I don't know, take back a captured oilfield maybe? instead of your tanks just stopping the same day someone else gets near your pipelines.
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Now those are some acceptable results. Unemployment around 4 to 8% instead of vanilla's 12 to 20%.

A lot of unemployment is concentrated in Germany, where the fields are full of people. They need to emigrate or promote to craftsmen faster, or both.
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>>147040669
Fucking this.
>Italians fight a pointless trench warfare against Yugoslavia
>the frontline hasn't been changed for 4 fucking years
>no option for white peace
Also
>implying Brits wouldn't surrender if the USA remained neutral, Soviets capitulated and they were left alone against the Axis
>we're still a major power m8, no peace for you, ayystraylia and raj will save us
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Ok let's start this easy, one step at a time

how do I mod the map in HoI4? As in create new borders, possibly change existing states, and get some better textures than neon-plastic-blob
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>>147041070
and yeah, the essential wartime consumption is only a fraction of "regular" consumption.

But I think abstracting strategic resources in that way is hardly the worst sin of HOI4. No nation that I'm aware of maintained meaningful, truly significant stockpiles of any of the major resources. It's fun to what-if about hitler starting an extensive storage-tank-building initiative pre-war, but it's unrealistic and ultimate not all that interesting.
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Overall the results for early and late game improved dramatically. At first I made the mistake of focusing too much on late game and now I balanced early game to be closer to vanilla. This implies changing a lot of things, but overall its better than shortages.
Unciv shortages is also something I need to tackle.

In any case the numbers for the economy have never been better. Demand for tea reached 30K, something I never saw before with the best in vanilla usually fluctuating around 20K in a peaceful era.
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>>147039063
Is this a fucking joke?
If not it goes onto the list of other let downs from the game

>shit tier ai
>national focuses aren't focuses at all because all of them can be done by 43
>air warfare isnt right with its blobbing air spaces
>naval warfare needs to be better
>peace conferences are shit
>events are undetailed and at max have 2 options instead of fuck tons from darkest hour
>there is 0 presence of antartica not even that little peninsula part underneath argentina
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>>147041482
Besides that I finished doing a few requests, including this one involving a vanilla event. I will probably be back to Italy by Friday, so maybe I will have the time to pick up the pace.
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>>147041390
why is it not realistic
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>>147041801
Hello HPMan.

I noticed at the end of one of my games New Zealand was having assimilation problems in every province outside of Auckland. I don't know if this is always happens but you might want to look into it.
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>>147041750
>national focuses
>be Britain
>turn fascist, join Axis, eternal-anglo the french in the back
>half your national foci are suddenly useless
Bravo
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>>147041897
It's a problem in countries with few starting pops. I've been considering giving it and Australia a modifier to help with assimilation for a few years.
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>>147041801

Hi HPM, when Turkey becomes communist its name changes to Turkish Socialist Republic but the adjective changes to "Near Eastern" instead of Turkish, can you fix it?
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>>147042153
Sure, thanks a lot for reporting it.
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>>147038756
Good. Take rest of Greece lad, make the Balkan Union a reality.

Also why didn't you take ALL of Tripoli? Damn shame there.

>>147041482
>>147041801
Thanks HPMGuy. I like that economy there.
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>>147042204
Also "Wath" province in Libya was bugged, when I formed the Arab Union I didn't get any cores there and the province didn't have any other cores at all, I don't know if this was fixed but I couldn't see it in the changelog.
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>>147042313
Shit, you are right. Sorry about that, I added a Tripoli core back.

>>147041897
>>147042116
The problem usually fixes itself late game and it mainly happens shortly after they become independent.
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>>147041897
>>147042215
>>147042215
>HPMguy
>HPMan

His name is HPM, redditors.
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Tsargrad or Constantinople?
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>>147042778
>Tsargrad
"no"
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>>147042778
Constantinople lad
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>>147042778
Tsargrad, don't use the turkish name
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>>147038070
Pretty sure CK2 has more cosmetic and music DLC's than EU4, and that's where the bulk of the price comes from.

It also helps that you only need to be current through old gods to have fun.
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how do I add the "-debug" thinghy to start modding?

I pirated it so can't do it through steam
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>alex is STILL fucking around with the economy
wew lad
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>>147042778
So long as you remove cockroach, lad.

But still, original name should be nice...Tsargrad sounds too much like what Russians would rename it. I know you're Slavic too, but still.
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>>147043000
That's a little more complicated.
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>>147043191
The original name was Lygos.
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>>147042778
yugoslavia
>slavia
>slav

tsargrad sounds nice
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Anyway, reducing unemployment also promotes bigger stability in Asia and Africa. It's not perfect but it's an improvement.
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>he isn't a fascist revolutionary
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>>147043219
I managed to do it anyway

now I'm looking at how to delete all states in one click instead of autistically Shift clicking them
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>play italy
>create new faction declare war on allies separatly
> vichy france fires
>Tunesia and french Syria that i took get returned without choice

Why is hearts of iron 4 so shit? How did this happen? Did they never play a full campaign? Why is the ai so shit? Do they just not care?
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