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>Official Site:
http://warthunder.com/
NOTE: You get given a premium aircraft for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher.
>Wiki with Release Trees and General Tactics:
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php
>Fan created skins, missions, locations, fictions etc...
http://live.warthunder.com/ (Warning! Pure weeaboo and horsefucker autism abound)
>Ammunition Types
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition
>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026
>Every Airplane Instrument Panel translated
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q4nybrogygdchdb/ND's_aircraft_reference_guide.pdf
>Youtube Channel with Tutorials and Gameplay Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/galahadgawain/playlists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O_pFZepLn8&list=RD8O_pFZepLn8#t=2 [Embed] [Embed]
>Steam community:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg
>vg chatroom:
Type " /join vg " into chatbox.
If prompted for a password, use "memes".
>Teamspeak
ts.gonnahate.org
>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html
>DIY Headtracking
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-build-your-own-ir-head-tracker/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161710468074
>Chart displaying weapon effectiveness against ground units - OUTDATED -
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H1_cSnYKSKbU6Giql2bMDdFoXefeq6ENWuvjQbtquMs
>>146497671
>Free premium aircraft for first victory
lies. I got a Panzer II DAK
>>146502908
depends on whether you play tanks or planes friend
>>146503092
I started off with based germany's panzers, like, two years ago or something.
>>146502908
You get what you played first after that update came out. So if it was a tank, free tank, if it was a plane, free plane
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/477821/
this shit is legit worth it desu
war thunder has a new competetor
>you can't even get all warbonds a day unless you have T4 shit
wew
D-25T damage and reload time reduced when
>>146509435
>not having T4 yet
>>146511047
>implying I just don't feel bad for newfags
I have T5 in multiple countries friendo
>>146511273
>feeling bad for newfags
Fresh bread
>>146511861
>>146511909
literally nobody cares you immense sperg
>massive cluster of friendlies on enemy base cap
>F6F comes in with tiny tims
>somehow manages to not hit any of the like 10 guys on the cap
why are burgers so retarded
It's a soviet vs german, clapper, teeb day and the soviets refuse to play sim episode
>it's an I repeatedly outskill HEAT spamming angloshitters in my T-54 1947 and IS-3 until I get fucked because le shell ghosting meme
two retarded chieftains just fucking let me walk all over them
and people call slavs stupid
>>146515563
>angloshitters
>HEAT
why lie?
>>146515672
>why lie
but I'm not
I killed 3 M60s, two chieftains, and an M103
>>146515829
Only the M103 has heat and the M103 is a shitty heavy tank
>literally every time vegeta tries to be funny
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Yh7sCkhR5q
>>146515937
>only the M103 has HEAT
nigga you what
I clearly said M60 also
>>146515937
>Only the M103 has heat
what
>it's a round bounces off the top of my tank but somehow creates spall that burns down my ammo
wew
when is this bullshit getting fixed
>shoot at AA
>die from "cannon breech explosion"
>cannon breech was never damaged
gaijin HQ firebombed when
>shoot leo turret
>splashdamage somehow ammorack his hull storage
Ok
who else here places bushes around their tank purely for cosmetics?
Im enjoying the decorations!
>>146519589
+1 GE
>>146497671
is this from graviteam
if yes then I'm gonna buy it right now but honestly I can't decide between operation star, mius front, and mow:as2
>>146519942
fucking christ why is graviteam so good
my killcam just showed a shell going through a rock infront of me to kill me
what?
>it's another "bombers end the battle in the first 5 minutes" episode
>fly for 10 minutes
>bombers in the stratosphere end the battle
HAHAHAHAHA DUDE GG XD
>>146509435
s-sorry...
>>146511273
Whatever, I'll just buy myself the premium tiger 2.
>>146522468
Enjoy your fun
you will mostly get german + soviets vs paper tanks and club them
>4.7 tonks
>think 3.7 is a fun tier i might actually be able to club
>5.7 battles going on 20 matches now
Do you guys fly arcade, or is it all l33t nonsense?
>>146525301
I play Arcade. I think it's more fun personally.
But that's just me.
>>146497671
what's this, a game with tanks that doesn't look like it was made in 2003?
>get golden wager
>take out Tu-4
>queues go past 10mins
>every match is a mixed battles because everyone and their uncle decided to take out the Tu-4
>loose because the Tu-4s I get paired with are retards and the enemies are coordinated and destroy our airbase before I can get the three bases done by myself because nobody else will do it
>fighters also avoid me like the plague
Are american tanks even worth it? I almost have Teeb done and it seems like clappers are worst than Teeb and that says alot since the only redeeming thing about Teeb is the APDS.
welp just lost my GE wager in my Tu-4 because
>2 mixed battles where Tu-4s stomped our team
and
>berlin, where I was instantly TKed by another Tu-4
I wanna go fucking strangle someone
preferably that faggot who sealed my fate
>>146516024
>Helmet too scared to 1v1 Vegeta's P-80 in his MiG-15 so he resorts to shitposting in the thread
>>146524887
This is the exact reason I quit. There is no fucking chance in hell I'm coming back until they do something about the BR.
>>146524887
>play any BR that isn't 8.0
>get uptiered every time
why?
>>146528195
Then who gets downtiered?
>>146528382
good goys
>>146528195
>got an account to level 36 only playing one nation and have yet to unlock a tier 5 vehicle
Because not everyone is a good goy that spends money on this game. The matches I played on alt accounts at 8.0br is a joke anyway. There is literally no reason to put that amount of effort into grinding for a vehicle in a BR that is just shit.
Besides we all know that whenever someone says "just get to tier 5 and it's fun ))))" is just a marketer.
the game totally isn't rigged
how did pockrt become so qt?
>>146528896
what is this spicy new autism
>>146528896
Estrogen at a young age. Simple as that.
>>146528972
You didn't hear? The reason pockrt gets so upset so quickly is because she's actually a trans girl. The estrogen does that.
>>146529047
source?
Why is the A36 Challenger higher BR than the Comet I?
By the looks of it, it's worst than the Comet in every way.
Both are based off the cromwell chassis, yet the Comet I has superior armor and turret armor for that matter.
Both roughly weigh the same, go same max speed.
Comet has better gun depression
Challenger has a slight better reload speed, but worse turret rotation
Then getting back to the turret in general, the challenge has a tall ass giant turret. The sides and back are flat, coupled with the shit armor making it an instant pen for even T1 flak.
>but that curved front on the turret will save it!
Nope, it barely helps. Gives it up to like 80mm of armor when at 5.7 the lowest pen is probably like 120mm on some shit ass tank.
>but wait the gun!
I will give it this, the challenger does have a higher pen APDS than the Comet I by 20mm. But does it matter? The Comet I can pen anything at BR 5.7-6.7 already with 208mm. The extra 20mm is practically meaningless.
I find it incredibly hard to believe the Challenger should be a 5.7 tank. I can't find a single redeeming feature of this tank over the Comet I which is 5.3. It actually is worse in most cases.
>>146529219
She was talking about it to me in teamspeak.sometimes she sends me lewds :3
>>146529454
children, this is what we call autism
if you ever encounter someone like this in public, avoid them at all costs
>>146526429
>>146527870
OK Pocket, kill yourself nigger
>>146529520
pockrt hasn't been on the TS in multiple days
How have they somehow failed to improve the game in any way in an entire year?
>>146529656
He's sitting down here right now with me
>>146529656
Who said I was talking about something that happened today?
>>146530378
he hasn't been on today either
>pockrt is so bad he dies in a Tu-4
>TS channel is password protected
okay
>>146530520
>dying in a Tu-4 is the same as dying and not taking the attacker down with you
Tu-4 keels over if you get any asymmetrical lift, and only people who fly it actually know that
>>146530582
Password is a single character, fuckstick
>>146530582
Kill yourself nigger faggot LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>146520198
I wish someone would say why, I'm on the edge of buying it but I need that extra shove
>>146531110
As far as I can tell, if you like strategy games, it's as accurate as they get.
If you like playing with friends, I recommend Arma. It's not as realistic sure, but it sure is fun driving around in a tank with friends.
>People bitch and moan about Ostwinds and Kugelblitz being too overpowered
>Say that they eat shells and have insta gib lasers that kill anything
>Meanwhile I get one shot by anything that looks at me funny
>And every shot I connect with aircraft just results in Hit + 5 with the occasional kill
I don't get it. Am I playing a different game?
>>146531718
nah they're just shitters
kugels are annoying but they definitely don't eat shells
>>146531718
If you can't kill Teeb tanks in german SPAA then you are a shitter.
>>146530582
It's to keep literal autists such as yourself out
>>146532313
Yet you have chicken tendie boy in these with you
>>146532078
>Kill teeb tanks
>Meanwhile I'm talking about eating shells and killing aircraft
Is your reading comprehension off today?
>>146532435
What? No way!
who was the shithead who decided that all GE wagers require a kill
because I really wanna have him publicly lynched
I wish I had friends
T29 is some OP bullshit.
>enemy team has three of them
>our entire team racks up a whopping 1 kill
>>146536561
okay pockrt
>>146536561
>He can't point and click them with is long 88 or 122mm
>>146536971
>he assumes I have a long 88 in uptierthunder
The sturer has such a satisfying sound when the cannon goes off.
>>146537193
and the killcam following it 95% of the time
>>146537193
>>146537232
>tfw that 128 sound and those post-pen effects
I'd like the Emil more if it wasn't an ammo rack on tracks
>>146537518
isn't that entire line a ammo rack on tracks minus the ATGM that should be on the right line
After some testing I've found a possible culprit to my constant uptiers. Those around Tier 3 to 4 especially.
In the picture I posted, I have my two line ups. One has the highest tier of 3, and the other one has a single tier 4. When I had the He 229(Tier IV) in my line-up I would often wait more time for it to get me in to games and when I would get in, I would always be the lowest BR in the match. Games would be around 4.7 to 5.3 max BR. I would never be highest BR in about 15 I played(At the most I would get in to 4.7 games sometimes). I then took out the He 229 and replaced it with Bf 109 G2/trop(Tier III) I started ending up in games where I was highest BR. I would get games where it would be a max uptier but those didn't come around as much.
Maybe how GF RB handles the BRs is how its done in Air RB and AB. Where if you have lets say the He 229 at 4.3 BR Tier IV, it will never get in a game against the P-39Q-5 even though that plane is 3.3, because its Tier II. Now it could work like that also in GF RB. Where the planes you have in your line-up affect the games you can get in to. Say you have the Do 217 M-1. Its 5.3 Tier IV meaning you won't be able to get in to any games lower than 5.3 even if you have the Tiger at 5.7. So you won't get downtiered all the way to 4.7 ever and you'll end up in games from 5.3 to 6.7 BR. Add this to how the matchmaking works, and it just fucks with how the whole BR system is handled.
Anyways, I know this is a long read. But I need someone to answer seriously and tell me if I'm being paranoid or if any of these mechanics don't add up and that's not how it works. I wouldn't put it pass Gaijin to forget to remove those Tier restrictions when it comes to aircraft when they're in GF RB and then with everyone taking their aircrafts and collectively fucking the matchmaking up.
>>146538665
except I don't get ammo racked half as many times in my Dicker Max as my Sturer Emil
>>146539046
what about people who never use planes in lineup?
>>146539046
Are you trying to say I could possibly force downtiering if I put a plane in a lineup that higher tier people might have a restricted plane in their line up forcing the mm to not match with them?
You can destroy atgm in mid air ???
>>146540234
Yes, shooting a missle in flight will blow it up
>>146540356
Well, then.. i destroyed slavs rocket right in front of my tank then proceeded to kill the cunt. Too bad the replay doesnt show that huge explosion
>it's an IS-3 dies because le unhistorical exposed turret ring meme
why does gaijin nerf vehicles that are already shit and buff those who are OP
>>146540473
>IS-3
>shit
you are a shit player
>>146540784
>literally every round goes through the unhistorical turret ring
it's also shit due to it's unhistorical reload rate, b-but muh russian bias
kill yourself nazishitter, you're the reason this tank got nerfed
>>146541039
>unhistorical reload rate
Unless this thing was packing an autoloader wouldn't that boil down to the crew's skill?
>>146529520
KÖCSÖG
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>it's a HEAT-FS goes through spaced armor episode
difficult coding))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>146541323
>gimped by ahistorical reload
>literally every non-russian tank )))))))))
>>146541323
it should have the reload of the ISU-122S, as should the IS-2 Mod. 1944, and IS-4M. IS-2 should have an A-19.
>>146539714
They wouldn't really get affected by it, so for them it would be considered random.
>>146539883
Just tested it in four games. Just 2 vehicles in the line-up. 1 Tank, and 1 Plane of the lowest Tier and relatively low Br.
>Game 1
M10(Br. 3.7, Tier 2) with SBD3 Dauntless(Br. 2.3, Tier 1). 3.7 Br was the highest.
>Game 2
T-54 1947(Br. 7.3, Tier 5) with Ar-2(Br. 2.3, Tier 1). 7.3 Br was the highest.
>Game 3
Tiger II(H)(Br. 6.7, Tier 4) with Do 17 E-1.(Br. 1.7, Tier 1) 7.0 Br was the highest.
>Game 4
Centurion Mk.3(Br. 6.3, Tier 4) with Halifax(Br. 4.0, Tier 2). 6.7 was the highest.
I got two games where I was the highest, and two games that although I wasn't the highest it wasn't a full uptier. There is no way to know though for sure, because the players that are .3 BR higher than me in those games could have lower tier planes also. I'll keep trying it out, but I had to keep switching nations because of the queue times regarding quitting a game early. It could just be wishful thinking, and it might not affect anything.
Stronk!
anyone else play arcade instead of realistic RB when there really drunk? it's actually really fun and legit everyone who plays arcade is so fucking shitter its unreal, im pretty sure i could play with one hand and still top the scoreboard every game
talking about air of course, tank shitters can go back to wot
reminder that the chieftain is a fair and balanced tank and does not need a counter
>>146546010
ok pocket
>>146546314
okay HAF
>>146546385
ok pocket
>>146546385
Ok Russian
>>146546498
>preggo shit
lmao
pockrt jacks off to fat shit
http://pockrtplanes.deviantart.com/activity/
>>146547032
>he blocked that profile too
>>146546314
>>146546385
>>146546498
>>146546603
>>146547032
>>146547140
You guys need to kill yourselves
>>146547214
It's not our fault you're a degenerate pockrt.
Nudes freshly baked
>>146547924
Muh dick
>>146516024
teamspeak circlejerkers pls go
Cannon Corsair will always have a special place in my heart <3
tu-4 at 10.0 when?
What are the best japanese planes?
>>146549674
All of them
>be bored
>decide to take out Tu-4
>rake in the immense salt procured
jesus christ this plane is fun
>>146549638
Ok SG508 Schitz
>J2M2
This thing is an absolute monster even stock.
>>146541872
SO YOU FINNA BE SAYIN
I just need to put a low tier plane in, to get "downtiered?"
T-54 1945 when?
>good map
>always fuck up
fuck my shit up
>>146519942
nah, that's Achtung Panzer Operation Star
nicked it from a /pol thread about video games >>>/pol/78144712
>>146550196
who?
why do people not think the T92 is cancer
>every round sails through harmlessly
>crew are mysteriously invincible when you hammer it with HMGs
>it's a zippy ass motherfucker that runs circles around fucking coelians
>has memetic APDS
>doesn't suffer from spall death syndrome like the PT-76 does
>>146553882
>it's a zippy ass motherfucker that runs circles around fucking coelians
why so specific?
>>146553991
because coelian has the best turret traverse in game if I'm correct
>just me and a teammate at high alt
>tell him there's two more enemies high and behind us
>the moment I type that in chat he dives to kill some lawnmower
Fuck this entire playerbase.
>play on Russian server, obviously the Tu-4
>all other Tu-4s rush to the enemy airfield, leaving me to take out all three bases
>angry cryllic runes when they realize they're at the airfield and the bases aren't dead yet
>>146554380
Sucks to be you
>>146554380
>rush in Tu-4 at max speed
>take out all bases and 3/4 of the airbase before the others can get there
>maximum salt
>500% SL and RP booster activated before
>70k RP
>600k SL
>premium Tiger 2
>premium account
>Heavy Metal Fury and in top 3 of team
>victory
>5.8k RP
>it's a single fiddie snipes my IL-10's wing off
so much for strengthened planes
so I just finished my grind from T1 to the chieftain I started 2 months ago
what is this meme about bong tanks being bad
T1 was hot garbage, but 2 and 3 were good, and 4 was admittedly not very good, that is until I got APDS, which wasn't very hard, and I could just point and click everything
why do people call this country shit
it was easier than pretty much every country aside from germans
>>146505202
light tank with 5cm Pak I can undestand, but what's point in other one? Isn't it just 35(t) with PzKpfw II gun?
>>146509435
grinding warbonds kills fun faster than grinding RP
>>146555952
It's a 38(t) with pretty good front armor, and an autocannon. It can even be used against planes. It's amazing.
>>146525301
arcade is fun in its own way. Also great for modules grind.
>>146555437
>2 and 3 were good
2 only had 2 good tanks
3 had one good tank
>4 not very good
4 was the best tier short of the chieftan itself.
>I could just point and click everything
even a cent APDS at tier 4 can pen germans everywhere
>>146556194
>2 only had 2 good tanks
both cromwells, both churchills, the matilda, and AC AA were all great
Churchil 7 is a shell absorber and the Comet was a fucking point and click speedy funbox
>>146556292
>matilda
>AA
i didn't even bother with matilda, 3in and church were all i needed
and AA for bongs felt so unsatisfying compared to nazi
SOONâ„¢
>>146556768
click o this thing ''boost research''
and support small family company
>>146555437
>it was easier than pretty much every country aside from germans
hardly, I mostly casually played USSR and still hit tier 5 without any problems. Their shit is always fun to play with. For other nations I actually suffered a bit, but can't remember any occasion when I didn't have fun with slavs, while there was always a point in other nations when there was a bit of suffering. I agree about teeb tanks, though, I legit can't understand why people meme about them being bad. Solid shot may not be APHE, but if you can aim, you'll still kill shit
>>146557438
Way it is now, GE per time saved is same at rank 5 as it is on rank 2. Plus people aren't stupid, and they see they could get decent Premium for that much.
Doing so it would make sense if RP gains per GE would be higher on higher tiers. This would make doing that a better deal, since relative price would go down, as grind required goes up, making buying researches more temping, higher you go.
>activate booster
>uptiered until its used up
)))))))
>>146553882
>>every round sails through harmlessly
no
>crew are mysteriously invincible when you hammer it with HMGs
no
>it's a zippy ass motherfucker that runs circles around fucking coelians
sorta
>has memetic APDS
literally identical to the bulldog's at higher BR
>doesn't suffer from spall death syndrome like the PT-76 does
the fuck does this even mean
t. t92 player
>>146553882
>doesn't suffer from spall death syndrome like the PT-76 does
>put the engine in front of the crew to protect the crew
>it does
Wow!!!
>having a good time for once
>here, have [Front Line] three times in a row running into two Yak-3Ps every time
>>146558270
>get a "win 6 matches with over 50 percent activity!" 80 warbond mission
>jump into T 34 85 recalling someone on wtg saying it had the best winrate of any vehicle some months ago
>first 3 matches won with no death, top scorer, properly tiered
>spend the next 3 hours trying to get decent matches
>played over 12, carry a third of those but the teams couldn't hold the objectives
>the other two thirds I either got killed on the first minute by uber aware Tigers keeping watch on every flanking route, or get absurdly overtiered into uselesness
How's the Yak-30? I see people playing it.
>the upgraded shells will turn the tiger 105 into a tank worthy of its BR
what did they mean by this?
>>146559320
Supposedly it's a slightly worse MiG-15.
>>146559445
>7.0-8.0 has to endure not only Tu-4 spam but a 9.0 plane at 8.0
And I thought I was crazy using my talismanned Tu-4 to grind the Yak line!
>>146559320
its a 9.0 plane at 8,0
>>146559578
>tfw I try to use EC to grind my gunless arado only to find it it can barely exceed 500 km/h on the deck and I have either MiG-17s or Hunters climbing inside my asshole every game
>>146559759
Gunless arado is suffering. Don't do it to yourself.
>>146559912
It should really be 6.0 or maybe even lower.
>>146559759
thats what it is supposed to face tho
>>146560016
How did you arrive at that conclusion?
Differences of the Yak-15 and 17? I want to fly either.
>>146560046
common sense
>>146560235
The biggest difference is the landing gear. Guns are identical and the flight performance isn't noticeably different.
>these clouds
>>146560235
dont fly them they are bretty shit
>>146560373
don't you mean lack of common sense?
>>146560508
They look good across the map
but once you get close...
>>146560414
I may be seeing things but the 15 seems to roll better.
>>146560512
They're actually kind of fun in sim. They can run down arados and out-turn most other jets, the biggest problem I have with them is the low RPG.
>this would have been a guaranteed kill with any russian tank. either via ammorack or by crew knockout
EPIC
>>146560670
>>146560414
Oh and the 17 has better pilot armor, that's it.
>>146560810
No, it wouldn't. Even slav tanks suffer from lack of ammo rack explosion sometimes
Entire playerbase killed when?
>>146561240
You can be the first one and server as an example for others to follow.
>everyone whines about yak3
>noone talks about the new n1k1
>>146561347
that could be because the n1k1 isnt 2.0
>>146561347
>japanese players
>existing
>>146561219
1 fragment from slav shell pretty much fucks up ammorack
>>146561347
People do though, they've been complaining about them for over a year, they're just kinda slow, so the MUH SPEED IS ERRYTHANG crowd ignores them.
>>146561634
>complaing about a year about a plane added last patch
ok turbo
>>146561626
Not always. And if you hit the ammo rack directly with a Panther, you're likely to set it off.
>its a helmet fights on a pacific map the first time episode
why does he even still appear?
>>146561694
All the N1Ks are bullshit is what I'm saying. The new one is just the latest in a string of bullshit.
>>146561826
maybe you shouldnt turnfight them
>>146561785
Why do you still blog about him?
>>146561910
im curious about his motivation actually. he clearly sucks in anything that doesnt have turrets but insists on rambling about everything he never touches and doesnt understand. and despite all the negative feedback he still comes back for more. he also moved past "le trole" by now so now he is just a mystery to me
>bomb targets using A-36
>Do-217 fires at me, misses and passes me
>about to use remaining energy from bomb run to get out, when he makes 180 and tries and turnfight me
>mfw
>I play along, he realises my circle is tad tigher, and tries to run away. In straight line. Not even toward friendles.
>he has no speed so I nail him easily with long .50 burst
>>146561785
>literally no mention of helmet for several threads
>wtg is just about to start recovering from the rampant shitposting
>blog about him
>the thread has now gone to shit
fucking great job
>>146562447
didnt he want il-28 to be at same BR as arado B2 at 6.7 ?
>>146562727
drama queens need to do drama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJkv3n6Vfv4
speaking of shitters, this one takes the cake
>>146563257
It's pretty rich that junko uploaded this. the guy who died to a literallyWho_508 in a head on. He died to a hurrican with MG's in his cannon chaika
>>146563831
>still being surprised at how Shit most 508 members are
>still being surprised at how quick they forget how shit they are to call other people shit
>>146562747
he thought he was relevant and started shitposting on reddit and forums
STOP GIVING THESE SHITTERS ATTENTION YOU FUCKING RETARDS
CUSTOM MEME WHEN
So is the D13 still a viable grinding plane now that it got nerfed in last patch?
Is the Yak3 VK still a viable grinding plane now that it got nerfed in last patch?
>>146564495
D9>D13 imo
>>146497671
So Ive started playing WT recently, and I did some reading about amount of players. Apparently Gaijin are dicks and dont care about the game at all and player numbers are dropping daily. What is the chance that this game wont die before I put a lot of time into it?
>>146564495
Yes, Yes.
>>146564550
http://steamcharts.com/app/236390
there are also many playing outside of steam
the big worry is that the game isn't growing
>>146564550
Honestly, there are too many whales with stockholm syndrome for the game to die, especially with the promise of ships and new tank lines on the horizon.
>gaijin shoving in the most retarded of slavs into top tier jet matches to try to show there's no russian bias and that jets are perfectly balanced
>>146563257
>Mig-17 dying to a Banshee
That is even worse than Helmet's Mig-15 losing to a Meteor.
>>146565018
>implying the F2H isn't better than the 2 F9F's
>p51d dives on me
>dodge him
>start typing
>spit comes and kills me
>"lmao p51d is best plane to bait yaks"
>>146565197
>no WEP
>less maneuverable
>wings G tolerance stealth nerfed
Banshee is ok, but certainly not better than panther.
Is the first Me 262 at least decent enough to have a fighting chance? I tried He 162 and I legit can't do jack shit when everything is I go against is better in every way. I have the Me 262 already, but if it's shit too, I'd rather not waste the few thousand SL to train crew if I won't fly the thing
>>146565510
>better top speed then F9F
>better acceleration than F9F
>can out dive the 15bis at most altitudes
>can turn better than the mig's
>>146565615
its ok
I personally prefer the p80/f84 because of the guns
>>146564957
Pretty sure by now that russian penal battalions are forced to play the game
>>146565510
>WEP
yes dude, it's totally worse because it doesn't have that WEP that runs out after 30 seconds
>>146565745
Wow, so don't use WEP to climb like you're in a spitfire!
>>146565880
>Runs out after 30 seconds
>it's only ingame to help it for carrier takeoff
If you didn't know this, you must be new
>>146566040
>it's only ingame to help it for carrier takeoff
Yeah, it's obviously not in game because Panthers had engines with water injection and Banshees didn't! It's definitely not limited because the navy limited the WEP on all their planes because it fucks up engines and you don't have unlimited spare parts when you're in the middle of fuckall nowhere in the ocean!
>>146566169
I dunno, lad, I heard her girlfriend voted remain.
>>146566264
I think you're retarded
>>146566354
She's dating Triahx? Has Triahx ever posted lewds?
>>146566478
>forced to face facts
>Y-you're a r-r-retard!!1!!!
Wow, you sure got me.
>>146566601
>facts
they aren't facts if they aren't true. I'm not going to continue this circle argument with a newfag that thinks he knows what he's talking about
I have to admit A6M2 are really fucking fun. They aren't that fast but agility and overall ability to stall fight makes it fucking kek at this BR.
>Tfw every snow map I stick out because of my bright ass "desert" stock paint
>While everyone else can blend in pretty damn well with pretty much all foliage
Such is suffering tovarish
>>146567254
that's because the vast majority of your opponents are literally braindead
>>146567398
Just like on all other BR's.
>>146566764
>Westinghouse J34-WE-34 turbojet has no WEP
>Pratt & Whitney J42-P-6/P-8 turbojet with water injection has water injection
Or are you trying to tell me that unlimited WEP has no adverse effects on an aircraft?
>>146567254
I love my premium zero, even if you're uptiered you can easily do well in it. I legit don't understand where the meme about how they should have a lower BR comes from
>>146567523
what the fuck are you talking about?
I'm saying that the Panthers only get 30 seconds ingame. what the actual fuck are you talking about?
>>146567608
It only had the water injection in real life to help it take off from carriers. It has limited WEP ingame because it had limited WEP in real life. You're not taking off from a carrier with it ingame, so you don't need to use WEP to take off ingame and you're free to use it in dogfights.
>>146567549
Well, if you fly correctly against A6M's they can't do shit but since most of people in this game are retarded so you can do well in them.
>>146567549
The one at 5.3 has no business being at 5.3, desu.
>>146568176
No, the reason it has 30 second ingame is for balancing
Like I said, you'd know this if you weren't fucking new
>>146565650
Better than the first F9F sure
it's a toss up for the 2nd
>>146568573
Provide evidence for me that it had more than 30 seconds available.
>>146568754
jesus fucking christ. Just fuck off
Is the Super Persing just not worth it? It's rarely in a match.
>>146568573
>No, the reason it has 30 second ingame is for balancing
this is wrong tho
the WEP was for taking off with a max load of bombs irl
>>146568836
>had limited WEP IRL to assist in takeoff
>has limited WEP ingame, don't even need it for takeoff
>WAHHH!!!
>>146568854
>irl
I'm talking about ingame. Are you actually fucking illiterate
>"Oh look, it's ANOTHER P-47 trying to turnfight"
P-47 at BR 2.7 soon, I guess.
Asu strong!
>>146568981
It's not limited for balance, it's limited because it was limited. If you don't want the plane you're flying to have any relation to its IRL counterpart then fuck off to arcade.
>>146568978
what the actual fucking is wrong with you?
>>146569047
>GIGASLAV
>>146568994
It already is in arcade.
>>146568754
>when you can't read the words "in game"
Is there literally any reason to use Tiger E?
Why isn't my extra loud enemy planes mod working?
>flying A6M2
>some faggot in Spitfire is trying to attack me for 12 minutes and fails miserably despite having clear performance advantage
>>146569408
It gets PzGr 40 APCR, the armour is very slightly different and it gets the machinegun on top.
It's bretty gud, being 0.3 BR higher than the H1 makes very little difference.
>>146569408
You can actually angle your armour effectivly with it since it lacks the retarded s-mine launchers gaijin modelled on the H
>>146564547
>>146564613
Scratch that. After four airfield nukes in succession I'm completely set that 6.0 is a deadzone of a BR if you are German or Japanese.
>>146570823
Its not that bad being 6.0 japan vs claps unless it's a max uptier. Fiddies aren't nearly as scary as 23mms and you've got some pretty good climbers.
Guys, I've been playing this game for like a year (not playing regularly, maybe I play regulary for a month, and then I don't touch it for another) and I'm currently unlocking the 3rd rank for all the nations (planes) and de 2nd for tanks
Is it even possible to get to the jets? It seems it will take ages
>>146571583
without premium vehicles or premium time, no
either wait for one of the grind events and get a "free" premium or spend some money if you want to get beyond early tier IV
>>146571583
It's not that hard to get jets, but you should stick to one nation if you actually want to get them.
Jets aren't actually fun, though, so don't bother.
>>146571583
They lowered the BR requirements, so it should be easier to reach them than ever, but you'll legit be uptiered in every single match you'll be in. You still kinda need premium if you're planing on ever reaching them, but not as much as you would for tier 5 tanks.
>>146571583
It is but they are shit desu. Better fly props.
Stock syndrome on jets makes them shit and they require a lot of RP. Add to that most of jets require teamwork to achieve success, and most of people flying jets are legitimately retarded.
So ask yourself is it really worth suffering, if you answered yes then go for jets. If not stick to props. I have almost all planes and I mostly fly T2-T3 planes as that's where most of fun is.
https://soundcloud.com/sexy-brut-music/jules-field-fear-and-loathing-2016-vegas-version?in=drivemusicradio/sets/drive-radio-top-10-week-26-3
TRAX
Is there any way to hid the FPS counter in the bottom left?
>>146572131
Is it making you feel bad because you have a shitty PC?
>>146572131
alt+Z
>>146572505
I get like 20FPS in tanks on my laptop and 40-50 in planes
I play onmax
>>146572585
I play on min and usually get 30fps in tanks. Fucking zenbooks...
>>146571767
>>146571863
>>146571879
>>146572018
thanks for your answers
well, I'm actually having fun playing in the ranks I am now, so I guess it's alright
I was just curious as to how it feels to pilot a jet ingame
>>146572773
Buy the wyvern. It's a jet engine powering a prop. :^)
>>146572585
Also, do you have any tips for boosting FPS for shitty laptops like mine?
Gotta love Russian teams
>Yaks drag Spitshitters and other burgerfats/bongtards into a furball at the deck
>I just boom in and zoom out in my La-9 killing all the low-energy idiots
>>146573191
Just download more RAM.
>>146572773
Install DCS World, fly out the Su-25T.
Hold down S until you black out and run out of speed.
You've experienced the full extent of jet tactics that are exhibited from the average jet players in War Thunder.
>>146573537
>>146573106
I just wish you could test flight a jet
>>146573857
So test fly the wyvern.
>>146573191
Laptops are shit creek. Sorry, but I've been there.
>>146573921
I did, but I don't think it's the same
naziboos, when will they learn?
>>146574008
It really is, senpai. Only difference is the wyvern sounds better.
>literally every other game
>PLAY THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE
>war thunder
>WAAAHHHHH STOP PLAYING THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VV8i0lMVP0
yay hes back :DD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VV8i0lMVP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VV8i0lMVP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VV8i0lMVP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VV8i0lMVP0
SO GLAD HES BACK :D
>>146574841
>>146575103
>advertising on 4chan
>>146575279
Yeah, you caught me, I'm Magz, the one and only
>>146575623
fuck off m8 I' Magz
>>146575623
It's irrelevant as to who does it, it's still advertising. Fuck off.
>>146575103
HAAHAHHA
WHAT A FUCKING BITCH
MISSED THOSE VIEWS DIDN'T YA?
>pitch black tank battle
>to go Post FX
>turn it into daytime
>win with loads of kills
))))))
>>146576774
>lying on the internet
>>146576969
He's not lying, fall colors is a built in cheat for night maps.
>nazis shoot right into my T-44 meme plate the entire match
Stupid fucking nazis. My turret is made out of butter but they go for the most armored and sloped part of my tank. A fucking dicker max bounced off of me. It was exhilarating.
>>146577098
Guessing you never played Leopard 1, otherwise you'd know tier 5 slavs aren't much better.
LEAKED NEW GERMAN ATTACKER
>>146576774
> Post FX
> His display doesn't have "night vision" preset for gamma and contrast boost
>>146553769
Some tard in saw in a match complaining about how there should only be two bombers instead of 4. Also, i Killed a Tu-4 Head on with 3 37mm shells in a 9UT cause muh uptier
>>146577401
Leaked new German interceptor
>playing dicker late at night
>random squad with another guy playing the big dick
>follow him around
>bros around volololmosk
>big dick our way to 4+ kills each
>best squad
>next match
>get dicker bro again
>proceed to be best dickbros in berlin
>he baits, I finish
>next match
>dicker bro and I take on finland
This is the most fun I've ever had in the game. For 4 matches straight I had the same squadmate and we worked together to fuck up the filthy commies, burgers, and teebs.
is the cl13 shit or is it just the default belts? last 10 games most i got was a critical that leads them to die like 5minute later
>it's a 110 decides not to die episode
I'm in the middle of making a Zirkus Rosarius camo for the P-51D-5. I've still lots of work to do on it but I want some feedback.
http://imgur.com/a/AnXbh
Working with the templates WT generates is a bitch, especially materials and normal maps.
Oh and yeah, I know, the swastika is oriented the wrong way because we can't trigger the germs :^)
>>146578414
but this triggers the germs
t. germ
>t-34 is the single most captured unit in any war ever
>germans only have one t-34
>>146578414
Seems to be coming along. I prefer the fully painted schemes.
>>146578781
I can't help it, I have a fetish for bare-skin planes.
are they making any new trees? french, italian?
>>146579256
They confirmed French and Italian are coming.
Who knows maybe we'll see spaghetti planes somewhere this year.
>hitlerbolt gets an airspawn
what
>>146579256
>french
yes
>italian
neva
all french plens were recently adorned with the RAF roundel to signify them not being native to the british tree. The italians don't have this. Gaijin have also actively avoided all questions about italian planes since forever, I don't know why people still delude themselves into believing they may come soon.
>model the smoke grenade launchers into the tiger
>never add them in
)))))))
historically accurate RAL 7021 grey when?
'Bright as the fucking sun' grey doesn't make a very good camouflage.
>>146579256
>>146580016
what about tanks? any new branch? are there enough japanese tanks to make a branch of them?
also, is it known when the ships will come?
>>146580081
would of break game)))))
>>146580081
just do the decal size bypass
>It's a Triahx enters the TS and mumbles episode
Is there any reason to use joysticks in the game outside of simulator? (Which is fucking dead, from what i've seen)
>>146580554
yes, if you have autism.
>>146580456
>sitting with his headphones muted
Good try
>>146580878
ok triahx
>>146580554
No, not even if you have autism.
>>146581019
boogeyman episode
hello comrades
i am trustful red yak
please show me where stalin lives so i can protect him yes?
>>146580278
I love how that's their excuse though, because it doesn't fuck with the game at all
>>146583320
>>146583080
yes yes, that's all true and all
HOWEVER
>>146581423
Yeah, senpai, should've done this paint instead.
>>146565615
if you climb it has better performance at attitude than most things it faces. Keep it above 500KPH and fly around 5000m
>>146577714
>arkade
>it's a "you get the only kill on your team"-episode
>decide to play ground forces after a while
>get poland
>just a minute after spawning I see my team is literally dying to one person
>I eventually get one shotted
>some is-3 with it's turret spinning in random directions is killing us all from it's spawn
What the fuck, I thought they banned this shit.
Daily reminder that Earth is flat and the Jews are trying to trick us
>>146590752
>posting a map disproven by the flat earth community
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7xDmnbbXXU
>http://imgur.com/a/Q6avi
new premium soon, start saving your money ^^;
>>146591329
Round eathers continue to believe the lies that the Jew whispers in their ears, despite the best efforts of valiant flat eathers
>Join match
>Game instantly panics and disconnects me
>All German crews "In Mission" for 7 minutes
Thanks game.
>ywn play a good WWII tank game
feels bad desu. I just want something like Steel Armor: Blaze of War except co-op.
>>146591586
flat earth is a SCAM get educated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z_TEHMnsfE
>>146591883
Men of War co-op is awesome.
>>146592023
Shoo shoo Jew. I WILL NOT BE DECIEVED
>>146569252
well, Arcade is all about agility, so plane that can't turn, ain't worth shit in it.
Wildcats and P-40s shit all over Hellcats, Mustangs and Thunderbolts in there.
>>146592067
This seems nice but I want first person view. Like inside the tank.
>>146586749
or mixed battle
They keep adding Arcade features, soon they may as well say fuck it and rename RB to AB+.
>>146591964
Don't take screenshots via WT.
>>146591883
I just want Panzer Elite with IL2 1946 graphics. Or something like Red Orchestra 2 tanks.
Shit hurts.
Please tell me the B-17 will be more fun
>>146591883
>ywn play a good multiplayer ww2 flight sim
i just want a huge, constantly world to fly around and defend the fuhrer in
>>146593368
Tu-4 will be more fun.
>>146593459
Is it true the Tu-4 has a different model from the B-29?
>>146592275
If you don't have it already >>146593321
Panzer Elitethe really old one, not Panzer Elite Action or any of thoseis about as good as they get, unless you want to track down a copy of Kharkov, but that one doesn't have all that much in it stock I heard.
It has inside views, not all that great ones, but they do the job.
It's on gog.
>>146593525
yeah there's some screw somewhere that was faulty on the b-29 they copied, so all tu-4 have that defect
>>146593569
NO YOU FUCKING RETARD IT HAS TO HAVE CO-OP
>>146593525
It seems to go down faster than B-29. One hit to your wings and down you go, which is honestly fine by me and I'm flying the damn thing. Guns make a huge difference however and even with the bomber limit, you can still win easily if your team isn't braindead. Sadly that's usually the case, so it's balanced.
>>146593368
You'll be able to travel better, you'll have a better armament and be able to sustain more hits. Bomb load is shit though, biggest bomb load you can take(6 x 1000lbs) you can kill one base with 4, and the last 2 will take a base down half. So you won't be getting a lot of points there. It only starts getting better once you get the B-17G.
Better bomb load, a defensive armament with less blindspots and better performance. Its still hell, so strap in.
>>146593525
The guns on the B-29 are much more "historical" than the cannons on the Tu-4, so it's much easier to get kills in the ruskie.
>>146593368
B-25 is an oddball, despite having plenty of guns it's completely unable to defend itself.
Other medium bomber I use, He 111 H-16 has only one large-caliber MG, yet, unless enemy crits me from 1km, I'm almost guaranteed to score kill in it.
>>146593748
Well just play RO2 or Ostfront then, don't recall anything else with coop tanks and interiors.
Panzer Front might have some split screen, but I'm not sure, that's also on the PSX and PS2 so it hardly falls into what you want. But that's about the only other tank simulator out there for WWII.
Steel BeastsI think?is about modern tanks, that might have it, but that's apparently also stupidly expensive.
No need to go autism about it.
When?
>>146594187
i don't understand, the he 111 is literal garbage
the defensive guns do nothing at all
>>146594303
>they put the propellars on the wrong side of the wing
lmao, retarded clapfucks
Hey guise, just checking back after a long time, did it get any better or is the grind and arcade focus even worse?
>>146594714
lol
Sorry, all out of RP. Come back again
>Low Tier Japanese TTK
Fucking infuriating. Yes, japs can change sides quicker than Hillary Clinton, but damn if it doesn't take 3 hours of concentrated fire to bring someone down.
>>146594303
>86000lb bomb payload
BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY
>>146594091
>>146594459
While we are on the subject of early tier bombers. I'd argue the Halifax is miles better than the B-25 or any German Bombers around its BR and Tier(4.0, Tier 2).
>Decent enough climbrate, and speed.
>Can go on dives of more than 340mph while still having enough mobility to turn or get out of the dive.
>9 x 1000lbs with 6 x 500lbs, you can do pretty much 2 1/2 bases worth of damage. Its great for GF RB as well.
>Battle Rating 4.0 at Tier 2. Great balanced BR in my opinion.
> Has two back turrets(7.92 x 4) with their high fire rate, they'll either kill the pilot or catch them on fire with enough sustain fire from 8 7.92 MGs with Universal belts comprised of incendiary rounds.
>Can turn really hard, and be nimble enough without having to worry about wing loading breaking the wings.
The game on the picture I posted. Three of those aircraft kills were with the Halifax. Me 410 A-1, Bf 109 F-2, and a Hs 129b.
>>146596001
im confused, the he-111 h-16 is not tier 2? also definitely does not have climbrate or speed
>>146595847
>Capable of carrying the B41
>25 Megaton Yield
WOOOOOOOoooooooooOOOOOOO
do i lose my warbonds when the thing resets?
>gaijin know my account isn't russian even though I use a vpn and cleared all data in my browser
>create a russian account to buy a gift code
>it only lets me pay through a selection of slav payment services
anyone had any luck pretending to be a slav recently?
>>146597129
Yup.
Don't even bother grinding for them unless you have up to Tier IV for Ground and Air.
>>146596219
>bombers having climb or speed
>not posted from my late model Yer-2
>>146598329
BOTTOMS UP NIGEL
>>146598202
i mean, for example the b-25 he was talking about earlier has a much better climb speed than the he-111
>Still no Bomber Cockpits
Why?
>>146594303
>wanting the one missing four engines
>>146597129
>>146597728
When a new warbond monthly cycle begins you start earning the new ones. You can't earn the previous ones anymore, but they are still there on another tab in the warbond shop for like 3 days or so till they finally disappear. So you can buy some boosters with the leftovers if you didn't get a chance to reach anything worth while.
>>146598438
>>146596219
I wasn't the same person that was talking about the B-25J, I happened to join the conversation since you guys were talking about bombers and mentioned the Halifax and how I think it performs better than other bombers at its BR.
hoo baby
>>146598329
FUCK OFF RACIST
you drive around a corner and see this
where do you aim
>>146599586
>he doesnt play with hacks on
lmao
>>146599586
the massive bush that's sticking out
>>146594303
>>146598763
Why are the engines on backwards?
>>146558306
>what does spall death syndrome mean
a wall of spall created out of nowhere becuz muh presets for shells
gaijin needs to make this shit based on armor thickness and composition
>>146599753
pilot has better protection if the tail is in the front of the plane and he's at the back
>>146599586
center mass
>Still no bomber cockpits
Why?
>get duck B-3 against all warning
>play
>fun as hell
why do people hate this thing again?
>>146599586
I play Arcade.
this is a tricky one, center mass wouldn't work
>>146600702
people don't hate it, there's just no reason to use it over B-2. It can be fun, but B-2 will be plainly better
>>146600015
From what? a blade flying off and slicing his cockpit off?
>general one day old and not at bumplimit
Teebery did this.
>>146601336
see, the tail gunner is at the front now, so it's safer for headons
>>146601574
it took more than 3h yesterday night to make 50 posts and reach the limit, so yeah
>>146601072
>T-34
>centre mass won't work
Panzer 4 begs to differ
FUCK.
OFF.
TEEBS.
>>146601856
+10 GE
>>146602382
>Average shitter respone
>Redditcuck teebs in TS right now after the Brexit vote
>Still no XF8B
What the FUCK
>>146602457
CORRECT GOY 60° meme doesnt exist
>>146602508
>Redditcuck teebs
what did he mean by this
>>146602647
How does it feel to be bad?
>>146602876
dunno man, you tell me
i dont have anything in the slav tree
should i get the first good bomber then autistically grind the whole tree?
>>146602919
>T-34
>Low tier T-54 that fights WW2 tanks clubber
>Impressive
I knew you were shit. Your screenshot further proves it
>>146601072
you can see the tank
shoot at the thickest part of the bush, that's where the turret is
>>146603864
you said the t34 armour is shit. i disagreed and now even gave you prove with my stats to it. yet you ramble on about tanks in no relation to it. but maybe you can enlighten on how your tanks are related to it
>>146603406
it's obviously going to be a T4 premium
the real question is Tu-16 with AM-23s when
>>146602876
>Redditcuck teebs
these cucks right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIdWYMvDsXU
B-2 bomber when?
>>146602876
Everyone in the TS that sits outside of the /wtg/ channel with the Reddit tags on is basically that. You wouldn't know we talk about you because you're a normie.
>>146604156
>other people are shit
>this means the tank is good
That's a solid argument you have there. I'd even go out on a limb and say these are mind_geek tier arguments
>mfw B-18
OH, WHAT LUCKY MEN, THOSE THAT DIED WITH THE TBD-1, THAT THEY KNOW NOT THIS NEW HELL
>>146604656
you realise you can even see the 60° meme ingame? are you stupid or just ignorant?
also, stop forcing your ts namedropping
>>146604956
>you realise you can even see the 60° meme ingame? are you stupid or just ignorant?
what the fuck does this even mean
Can you please think before you type?
>stock IS-4M
you don't know true suffering until you've had to deal with this retardation
I'm kind of interested in getting one of the rocket launcher vehicles.
Which ones are worth getting?
>>146605249
>stock leo
>literally firing needles
>>146605356
this desu
Also
>Stock leo
>get outrun by T-10's
>>146605356
>stock IS-4M
>slow
>can't pen anything
>gets penned by everything because everyone's packing HEAT in RB or just hits le epin weakspots in AB
the fact that this doesn't start with APCBC and get APDS and HEATFS is utter retardation
>>146605873
>A tank that didn't have APDS and HEAT-fs IRL, should get it ingame
Also, you do start with APCBC
>>146606046
>tank that didn't get APDS or HEATFS IRL
source?
also nah bruh, you start with shitty APHE
>>146605352
IT-1 or Sheridan
WASD aiming on the RjPz and Strv 81 suck ass
>>146605873
>stock leo
>bouncy meme ammo
>penned by tier 1 tanks
>spend 10 minutes flanking
>sneak up behind T-54
>shoot gunner and turret ring
>orange/red
>turns and you die
>>146606157
300mm pen APDS is still way better than 200mm pen APHE
also,
>using solid shot
>not aiming for ammo
your fault, shitter
>>146606386
>solid shot
>setting off ammoracks consistently with no HE filler
nice meme
>>146606046
> IRL ammo
I think any ammo that physically fits should be available an upgrade, no matter if it was actually used historically or designed after tank was scrapped.
I also think some upgrades such as ammo should affect BR.
>>146606517
>APDS
>not burning down ammo 9/10 times
now you're just lying
>>146606157
Rocket launcher. Not the ATGM vehicles, sorry.
Like the Panzerwerfer, Calliope, ect.
>>146606386
>aim at front
>bounce
>die
>>146606791
>T-54 also shoots your front
>he also bounces
do you actually own the Leopard? because I'm beginning to think you don't. Leo is T-34 tier with it's UFP.
this one is pretty good if you hide the LFP
>>146606764
Calliope is the only okay one. The rest are shit. The Panzerwerfer is far and away the worst option.
>>146606548
I think your toenails should be yanked out for having such awful opinions.
>>146606764
Calliope
I got mine for 75% off and grinded T1-4 with it
>>146606764
oh
calliope easy then. easy kills, almost usable armor and aim, or maybe the BM-8-24
Panzerwerfer can't hit anything, no ammo and has small size barrages between reloading
M-26 T-99 is way too expensive and not even that good
the little soviet BM-8-24 memelauncher is usable, paper armor but has a decent firing arc and barrage size.
the cromwell with the rockets can't aim at all and has only 4 shots.
>>146606153
>Tank cannon from Pre-ww2
>cant I get a source that says it couldn't fire Sabot and HEAT-FS
here's the shell sheet. by the time Sabot and HEAT-FS was being adopted, russians had started to adopt the idea of MBT's. Only really producing Sabot and HEAT-FS for their 100mm's and every now and then maybe for the M-62. The only time Sabot and HEAT-FS was made, it was for the M-62 ie. the T-10's gun
>>146606548
>I think any ammo that physically fits should be available an upgrade
No offence, but that's just retarded.
that's like saying the Panzer 2 should get long-rod APDSFS
>>146607420
>dicker max has 105mm
L7 HEAT-FS and HESH when?
>>146606548
>mods effecting BR
YES
HEATFS needs to stay at minimum 7.7(yes that includes the PT-76, it's missing 80mm of pen anyways)
also FW-190A-5/U2 should be 4.7 without gunpods in arcade, not that I use it, but it shouldn't be 6.0 stock
huehuehuehuehuehue
>people still doesn't know this thing can't be ammo racked
>>146607627
7.92mm Sabot for Panzer 1 when?
>>146607420
> that's like saying the Panzer 2 should get long-rod APDSFS
If it adds like +2 to BR sure why not?
Also disable unhistorical ammo for SB/events.
Shillelagh price increased to 3k SLwhen?
>>146607720
30mm depleted uranium rounds for Mk-103 when?
>>146607720
))))))))))))))))
>Hits 2 separate racks and a fuel tank with Sabot
>nothing happens
>>146607216
>>146607373
>>146607412
Guess I should start saving for the Calliope then.
Is the Panzerwerfer really that bad though? I always see the noisy fuckers kicking around.
>retards in this thread asking for rounds because they're the same caliber
>when the HEATFS and APDS in the SU-122-54 have the same shell dimensions as the APHE and APCBC in the D-25T
wew laddio
>>146593368
>Implying the B-25 isn't fun as fuck
Don't blame the bird because you're bad at it. It's a fucking killing machine, even with no tail control
>>146607979
no armor, low firerate, no secondary gun
>>146608102
>HEATFS and APDS in the SU-122-54 have the same shell dimensions as the APHE and APCBC in the D-25T
No, they aren't
The HEAT-FS and Sabot are both sub-calibre for the D-49. please check before spouting random shit.
Also, what point are you even trying to make in this post?
>>146607920
Propably the first tank ever made with the ammorack as an additional armour layer
>>146608359
I mean the rounds are compatible with the D-25T, why wouldn't they if the SU-122-54 fires the APHE and APCBC of the D-25T?
>>146608230
I mean I'm just wondering because I see it nearly every game whereas the BM and Calliope I have only seen each once. And I'm not high enough yet for the Pershing or British ones yet.
Gotta be doing something right, right? Or is this literally a mememachine?
>>146608642
Calliope is a meme machine that fires over hills
>>146608642
naziboos are more willing to depart with their money than slavs, and the calliope is way more expensive
So because I already bought these, I can use all 6 on any tank still while the rest of you are stuck with the shitty single bush packs? Fuckin sweet.
>>146608492
The APCBC round are compatible, that is true. However, the gunlay-out was competently redesigned and i'm sure it was even re-bored to allow for the use of Sabot and the HEAT-FS
However, the layout and the way the D-25T was made, it wasn't able to fire HEAT-FS and Sabot. to be able to do so, it had to be so heavily modified, that it was classified as a whole new gun ie. D-49 and M-62
However, the D-25T SHOULD get HEAT, but not fin stabalized. However, data on the HEAt shell is very rare as it was barely used as the APCBC shells proved more effective
>>146608754
Yeah I guess that makes sense. Calliope is like, what? $50?
Also, Sherman Tulip when?
shrapnel shell for SU-122 wen
>>146604909
>no climbrate
>no speed
>no armor behind pilot
>aiming deadzones everywhere
>and in case they actually hit, it's fucking .30's so unless you headshot pilot, nothing will happen
>>146608949
But the only HEAT rounds the D-25 fired were fin stabilized?
>>146609516
No, the only HEAT rounds for the D-25T were non-fin stabilised. just HEAT
>>146609718
Nigga what? Early 122 - 100mm HEAT rounds were designed like this, you know, with fins.
>>146609303
Just goes to show how retarded the clappers were before the British helped them out with bomber design.
>>146606548
Despite same caliber, M-62 and D-25T are different guns, just like KwK 37 of Pz IV C is different gun than KwK 40 of Pz IV F or KwK 42 of a Panther
>>146609856
>122mm HEAT-FS shells from the D-30
That isn't D-25T shells you idiot. that's D-30 shells
>>146609887
Unlike those guns, both the M-62 and D-25 used 2 piece ammunition, projectile, and propellant. Any projectile of appropriate bore size can be fire from a 2 piece gun.
>>146610093
I know, that was the Russian early 60's HEAT design before they started using standoff spikes. You have any pictures of 122mm D-25 HEAT rounds? Cause I can't find any.
just gonna leave this here
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/262475-d-25t-d-49-underperforming-151972/
>>146609856
>Post war shells
>used by a a different gun from the D-25T
Are you retarded?
>>146610101
Like previously said. the D-25T couldn't fire the sub-calibre Sabot and HEAT-FS like the M-62 could
>>146610257
ok pockrt
>not knowing shell variety and reload rate are used for balancing
>>146610270
There is no such thing as a D-25 HEAT round, Any HEAT used out of a D-25 would be 122mm HEAT designed for another 122mm gun.
>>146610442
>Any HEAT used out of a D-25 would be 122mm HEAT designed for another 122mm gun
are you actually this fucking retarded?
>There is no such thing as a D-25 HEAT round
jesus fucking christ. go to bed you retard
>>146610547
Well, can you prove the existence of D-25 HEAT?
>>146610442
>I'm a spastic
The post
>>146610238
I don't have a picture senpai. but I do have the data for it in my previous post here: >>146607420
>>146610597
idk about him, but I can prove it
look at the image in the linked post
>>146608492
M-62 could fire any shell made for D-25T, but D-25T could not fire every shell made for M-62
>>146609856
>BK-6
round made for D-30 howitzer somewhere in mid-60's. Same story as above
have picture of actual early HEAT
>>146610671
>>146610684
nice find f a m s
>>146610671
>>146610684
Shit, so there was HEAT for the D-25T. I guess we could get that, because the D-25T didn't have HEAT-FS or sabot
>>146610684
We already have that round in-game on the Su-122, That specific heat round in this chart>>146607420 to be exact.
>ZBM-8 APDS was designed for the 100mm as a cheap alternative to HEATFS
>1400 SL
>Shillelagh was never fired in anger as to how immensely expensive it was
>490 SL
good job fucking slavs over once again, gaijin
>>146610934
yeah, and?
that's the point of the post. To show that the 122mm did have HEAT, but not HEAT-FS
>>146610684
Also this round was made for the M-30 howitzer, not the D-25. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/122_mm_howitzer_M1938_(M-30)
>>146605873
Brits should get APHE from T1 to T4, it's absolutely stupid that we don't and instead get solid shot which makes sense in IRL since you bail once pen but in this game it does nothing until you ammo rack
>>146610671
>look at the image in the linked post
>120mm pen
nice. You proved it could fire primitive HEAT, that was only produced to give armor-piercing capability to howitzers and was all-around inferior to KE shells.
Was beign so obvious at grasping straws part of your plan?
>>146611019
The D-25 could fire M-62 HEAT-FS, just as easily as it could Fire M-30 Howitzer HEAT. Because they are all 2 piece firing guns with the same bore diameter.
>>146611156
They both have identical pen because they are both the same projectile, just fired from different guns (M-30 vs D-25).
>>146611032
Holy shit, are you actually retarded?
it was made for the D-25T, but could be fired from the D-30. Go to bed you stupid idiot
>>146611179
holy shit, how many times do people have to fucking tell you. the D-25 DOULCN'T fire sub-calibre shells ie. HEAT-FS and Sabot.
But the M-62 can, because they are different fucking guns
your argument is like saying the 105mm dickermax shell could be fired from the 105mm leopard gun because they are both 105mm
>>146611156
>This HEAT has the same pen, when fired from 2 different guns
WOW REALLY?
Was being retarded part of your plan?
>>146611179
>The D-25 could fire M-62 HEAT-FS
you're fucking retarded. no it could't
>>146611179
>>146611156
you 2 retards keep getting blown out, but you still keep posting bullshit. why?
>>146611032
considering projectile is pretty much same as "normal" shell, I'd say any gun able to fire standard 122 mm rounds could use it. Plus image also includes this shell for A-19 gun.
They probably didn't have sights for it, since using such shell in D-25T wouldn't make much sense. AP would penetrate just as much, without risk of shell failing to fuze due to angle and generally high failure rate of early HEAT.
>>146611342
I think you may be misinformed as to how large caliber cannons work, let me try to explain. The bore diameter of the M-30/D-30/D-25/M-62 is 122mm. All of those guns fire with 2 piece ammunition separated as so.
Piece 1: Projectile
Piece 2: Propellant
Because the projectile is entirely separate from the propellant, IT CAN BE LOADED INTO ANY BORE OF THE SAME DIAMETER, as long as the cannon is loaded from 2 pieces.
>sub-calibre shells ie. HEAT-FS
HEAT-FS is not sub caliber, it fires just the sames as a full caliber AP with driving bands to engage the rifling.
What if we strapped a jet engine to a tank?
>>146611596
keep clinging by straws
While on it, tell me what is purpose of putting such shit HEAT into IS-4, and how it's related to original complain of IS-4 not beign cappable of using HEAT-FS, it realisticly could not use.
>>146611993
Holy fucking shit. are you actually retarded?
Not all fucking HEAT-FS is sub-calibre. The HEAT-FS for the M-62 is sub-calibre. fucking hell you are dense
>>146612065
Because people were saying the 122mm never had HEAT, when it did. just not HEATFS
>>146612065
I think this conversation has gotten confused, and people are arguing over different things without realizing it.
>>146612135
>The HEAT-FS for the M-62 is sub-calibre
You gonna have to show me some proof of that senpai, not saying its not true, just never heard of it.
>>146611993
>literally forcing words into his mouth
He said that the D-25T couldn't fire the M-62's sub-calibre HEAT-FS. I think you're getting confused amongst all the shitposting that's going on
>>146612293
can you give me some time to dig it up. I found stuff about it on a chink website. Gonna take a while to find it.
I'm sure it was something to do with the way they designed the HEAT-FS to be like the sabot
So that the it was sub calibre, to allow for easier separation of the shell and the projectile
Just jumped up a tier now that I have my Tiger.
It's weird getting used to what you're up against again.
>>146612029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOlq6RRh3sg
Evne the germans wouldn't do this.
>>146612135
>The HEAT-FS for the M-62 is sub-calibre
you're confusing sub-calibre with sabot-discharging, which are 2 different things, that just happen to usually come in tandem
>>146612480
>to allow for easier separation of the shell and the projectile
Bruh how fucking high are you?
pic related, 3БК9 HEAT-FS designed for the 122mm M-62 gun.
>select all images with trees
Bravo google.
>play top tier without HEATFS or APDS
>literally can't escape from the suffering
why must gaijin make it impossible to play slavs
all I want is the T-10M so I'm no longer bullied by MBTs
>>146612846
No, it was sub-calibre. give me time to find the shit for it
no bully
>>146612887
Like i said, it was some chink testing that was a shitty translation and it was a long time ago i read it. I'm not sure exactly what it said, hence why I said "something like"
Calm down you autist
>>146613073
Like, this>>146612846 is actual sub-caliber HEAT-FS. But as far as I can tell the 3БК9 was just a normal full caliber HEAT-FS round.
is this whole flat earth business a ruse ofastronomicalproportions or do people that stupid really exist
>>146613553
yes
>>146612480
>>146612293
Here's what i could find, and from what I can remember from that chink website. The £BK-9 started as a shell for the 115mm, then was adopted for the M-62 due to how many of these shells there were. I may be completely wrong because i'm trusting chinks. However, do what this, what you will. point still stand; the D-25T can't fire the 3BK-9 shell
https://www.jmu.edu/cisr/_pages/research/afghanistan-oig/03-projectile.pdf
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/2002/iraq-osgjs-eod_06-projectiles.pdf
https://www.sisostds.org/DesktopModules/Bring2mind/DMX/Download.aspx?Command=Core_Download&EntryId=43388&PortalId=0&TabId=105
http://www.jmu.edu/cisr/_pages/research/iraq-oig/03-projectile.pdf
http://www.wikiwand.com/de/D-81
http://mainbattletanks.czweb.org/Tanky/subsys/rushtmun.htm
http://salwguide.bicc.de/en/ordnance/projectiles/
Also, I'm going off now lads. Sleepy pilto
>>146614072
Um friend even if your chink sources are correct, because the Sabot acts as a driving band to engage the rifling of a 122mm bore, it can still be fired from any russian 122mm gun.
>>146614224
>because the Sabot acts
we're talking about HEAT-FS. not sabot
How do you play teeb tanks?
I got the Archer (or whatever that stupid reverse TD is called), Cromwell and a Valentine
So far, all I can do is hope to hit their gunner and hit vital shit
The government probably has everyone in this thread on a watch-list for knowing so much about tank shells.
>>146614468
>Archer
>Valentine
don't use that, go Cromwell, 3in, Churchill
>play 7.7 in RB
>9/10 matches there's 8.0s
>play 7.7 in AB
>9/10 matches there's 6.7s
welp I guess I'll have to play this mode to not get raped
>>146614412
Um, he was implying that the 3БК9 was sub-caliber, which would require a sabot.
>>146614760
He wrong regardless, even his own sources show a picture of the 3БК9. Clearly full caliber projectile body with driving/rotating bands.
>>146614572
But they both take like, 39k RP.
Usual RP is like 1k, 2k if I'm doing good
>>146614760
>Um, he was implying that the 3БК9 was sub-caliber, which would require a sabot.
>he
You mean you
>3БК9
You can stop using Cyrillic, it makes you look stupid when posting on a English board, especially when you don't speak know Cyrillic
>which would require a sabot
Not necessarily
I'm not even the person that posted the link and you're already annoying me. how about we just stop posting this retarded shit and post something actually related to the game?
>inb4 you think this is somehow related to the game
>>146615075
3БК9 is just copy paste from the Ru wiki. Sue me for using ctrl+v for convenience. And yes, you need some for of sabot for a sub-caliber projectile to be fired from a full-caliber bore.
>>146615287
>what is little john adapter
>>146615287
SBK9 / ZBK 9
...just to say what the slavshit runes are for...
>>146613553
The earth is flat, but the Jews have blinded the eyes of men of science and bribed them into duping the common people such as yourself
>>146615478
something that squeezes a full-caliber projectile into a smaller bore diameter rifled barrel extension.
>>146615478
A thing that makes a big shell smaller and faster
>>146615478
What a little john adapter does.
>The round upon firing traveled the first part of the bore as normal, but on entering the tapering portion the softer and malleable metal of the outer shell of the round was compressed - from 40 mm to approximately 30 mm.
What a sabot does for a sub-caliber projectile.
>a device that ensures the correct positioning of a bullet or shell in the barrel of a gun, attached either to the projectile or inside the barrel and falling away as it leaves the muzzle.
>>146615641
>>146615754
>>146615758
thanks, I honestly wanted to know. I also, never meant to put the > at the beginning of it
>>146615883
really makes you think.
>>146615843
Whatever faggot nigger spic
>>146615997
what did he mean by this?
>>146616114
I believe he was implying that you are a latin american of african ancestry who enjoys the taste of dick, and that he disregards your opinions.
Is anyone else having difficulty with slavs, specifically tier 3-4, or am I just in bad luck?
I used to have an average-ish win/lose ratio of 50-60%, and a KDR with slavs about 3-1, but now it seems I'm losing almost every match I'm in or I die first using tactics no different than prior to british tanks (even if enemies are not Brits).
Am I just shit, did germans git gud, or did gaijin balans slavs?
>>146616273
not gay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh07WlB46Gw
anyone wanna play T29's in RB? I am a bush.
>>146616413
Fuck you usually fighting?
Don't try to fight a Tiger II from the front. Neither a Tiger I (dont remember the armour on his front right now)
Shermans should be easy to kill.
Panzer IV is still the same shit as previously, they just get some more armour.
When will we get SU-## series planes?
>>146616413
slavs are "balans"
and by balans I mean they fucked every decent tank and buffed the 2-3 OP tanks to the Nth degree
I fucking hate these long queue times for GF. Is RB really this dead? I assume SB is even worse.
>someone takes out my barrel, cannon breech, and everyone in my turret all at once
>proceed to find the fucker IRL and brutally murder him
>>146617092
You mean like the Su-2s we have already?
>it's a fuel tanks are blocks of RDX episode
>>146618403
Maybe he means the Su-9 / Su-11 or something.
>tfw nobody wanted in forums wanted to help me with my question in regarding in tank tactical numbers that gaijin released
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/320281-tactical-tank-numbers-help/
Make way for the best skin
>>146618792
I think it's usually the factories that produced them.
Like, Rostok 74, Ural 224, etc.
>>146618552
If he does then he's a faggot.Gib Su-5.
>>146619101
>that oil streak
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
>>146618882
I really can't understand how that skin got into the game
has to be that the creator knew the right people
>>146618965
I have no idea where to actually put these decals on the tanks that historical had them
I think I remember the E-1 decal was on one of the Stuart tanks, but that's all I got
>>146619285
>he doesn't like checkers
Some of the early Ishaks have really cool looking skins
>>146619443
not complaining about it, I quite like it, it's just odd that it got in
the thunderleague skins are excused as I assume the teams played a part in selecting them, but that one is all gaijin
niggers
>>146619531
>tfw I grinded out all the I-16 type 5 skins
>Upgrade German line from 3.7ish to 5.7ish
>Go from relatively balanced vehicles
>To hulking monstrosities and glass cannons
Feels weird.
I'm fucking sick of the shitboxes that are T5 slavs
fuck the T-10M, I'm going back to clubbing in my Leo
Hey guys, I'm not properly back, but I just wanted to check up and see how you guys are! I saw a Mig-21 in a parking lot today and I got reminded of you guys. I'm missing you lots <3
>>146620582
please post all
>>146620697
If 5.7 germans are 'glass' cannons you're not using them right
>>146621446
Dicker Max and the Jagdpanzer are both pretty flimsy.
>Me-410
>interceptor
>1/4 the climbrate of the Bf-109 and or Fw-190
what?
>>146621338
Do you not own the I-16 type 5?
>>146621652
Oh... I thought you were talking about THE other 5.7 german tanks
Dicker and Jagd always club me as long as they stay at least a kilometer away from the actual combat zone, and hulling down. All the Dickers I kill are usually ones that try to flank through urban areas just a couple blocks away from the objectives, as in the place every enemy tanker tries to swarm.
>>146621081
are you fucking gay or delusional?
>>146621945
I dont have enough skills to shoot something down with just two 7.6 machine guns
how the fuck do i fly german planes
>>146622432
BnZ
>>146598329
BOTTOMS UP NIGEL
Is the Sheridan worth a torturous 380k to grind?
>>146621027
yeah, I can #Relate to that. IT-1 is just so hard to use, right? I mean, having to hold your mouse on the enemy?! That's just way to hard to be honest
https://a.pomf.cat/jmkoaz.webm
>>146622870
I don't have the IT-1 you fucking idiot. If I did I wouldn't be so angry. Have you ever played a stock IS-4M and stock T-54 1951? They're the worst russia has to fucking offer.
Is the KV-1B 756 german perm tank good?
I just got a 50% discount on it.
>>146622993
What, you don't like using the same stock rounds as the IS-2 and SU-100 a full 1.0BR higher comrade? )))))
>>146622993
>Have you ever played a stock IS-4M and stock T-54 1951
Yeah, i have. they are pretty bad
However, when i played the T-51 Mod51, it never had it's sabot and HEAT-FS. so i played it with just the shitty APCBC
I know your pain, I'm just teasing you, no harm intended
>>146623259
I remember spading the T-54 when it was the king of Tier V. Good times
>>146623259
T-54 Mod51*
>>146623141
don't forget with retarded weakspots
>>146623361
>used to be the king of T5
>now is easily the worst
how times have changed
>>146622993
>Cry like a baby about the whole of tier 5 slavs
>chimp out that he somehow didn't know you're just talking about the T-54 and IS-4
>5.0 tanks
>50 matches
>43 of them are 5.7 (or higher)
>4.7 tanks
>50 matches
>36 of them are 5.7
>tanks
>not leaving when up tiered
>not playing 8.0 BR
This isn't acceptable and every single person that plays knows it.
>>146623635
>literally the only good T5 slavs are the T-10M, IT-1, and ZSU-57-2
>>146623835
>this justifies your chimpout because he can't read your mind
I see
I made a userskin that allows any pre-1943 German tank with the 'fantasy grey' paintjob able to use the RAL 7021 Dunkelgrau colour that was actually used IRL.
I might bother to correct the DAK colouring too sometime but not now, since tier 1 is more or less what I care about most and I don't even own the Pz II DAK.
Anyone else want me to share this or am I the only one who cares?
>>146624015
I hope you know you killed this thread naziboo
>>146624015
there was actual discussion going on before you posted
>come for my biannual check on /wtg/
>it's now home to a memespouting clique
epic
>>146624907
was it not like that before
>>146624907
>he thinks anything has changed
rose tinted glasses thicker than the english channel
>>146624015
thanks you stupid fucking naziboo, you just killed the thread
>MC 202
>clubbed by shitfires and other high shit
>MC 200
>clubs biplanes
what a difference
also what is best belts to use for spaghetti fiddies
>restart computer
>"unloadable boot drive"
>wont start
HELP
>>146625507
rip
>>146625653
did system restore
unfucked now
various hard drive tests/checks found nothing
I was playing WG:RD when it froze and then did this
thanks eugen
>>146625449
>MC 202
>clubbed
Git fucking gud.
Airfield AAA for MVP.
look who I came across
>>146625837
>spaghetti guns do 1/8th the damage of burger fiddies
they're pretty trash if you're not fighting biplanes
>ywn hang out with [SG508] Junko_Enoshima and shoot the shit
I'll be honest lads she seems like the coolest person here up there with doggoposter
>fire PaK43 at T-34's unangled side armor
>mother
>fucker
>bounces
LOL NO RNG HERE OUR GAME IS SOOO REALISTIC )))))))))))))))
>>146626792
??? doggoposter is an arcade shitter, why are you acting like it's a compliment?
>>146626792
shut the fuck up and leave
nobody likes you junko
>>146625837
oh but I know about this. the mc 202 was top tier seal clubber 1-2 years ago, what changed?
>>146626874
>be bad
>miss
>blame the game
lol
>>146626874
>get shot in T-44
>round hits the flat part of my turret and takes a 90 degree angle into my tank directly
>>146626973
Only buffs, you're just bad.
>>146627127
>>146627156
better than you faggot
1v1 meyou wont
ign is steel101, waiting for you right fucking now nerd
Does protective vests actually help against bullets and shells?
>>146627313
>steel101
who came across this guy and how did he become a meme
>>146627208
4 dimensional gun breech
>>146627350
Only barely.
>>146627076
+10 GE
>>146627702
>what is effective thickness
read the fucking manual, retard
>>146627868
>what is effective thickness
About 90mm, read the screenshot retard
>>146627702
>shoot sloped armour at an even steeper angle
>bounces
>>146627927
wait... do you literally not know how the armor viewer works?
https://youtu.be/rEm4Hmi2e9E?t=498
>Do-217N can't climb
the fuck?
>>146626879
Who said I even want to play war thunder with him?
>>146626887
I'm sorry your life is so sad that you're convinced nobody could anyone else's company nice
>>146628047
>thunderbolt
>dogfighter
what?
>>146628273
>nobody could anyone else's company nice
>>146628297
sorry lad, I accidentally a word. I meant to say 'nobody could FIND anyone else's company nice'.
https://youtu.be/nuWoh67V-C4?t=390
>Tfw you will never drop bombs on bombers like grandpappy Fritz Adolf Galand
>>146628281
you realise "dogfighter" isn't an actual military designation right
>>146628047
Boy do i wish this is how WT actually played.
That Fw 190 would have killed the P-47 in one pass in WT.
>>146627702
The angle in the first and second picture are completely different nigger.
>>146621904
>thinking that planes climbed up to bombers every sortie
>not knowing what early warning radar is and actually having time to climb
>tail glances the ground
>tail control lost
>control cables aren't even close to the bottom
is gaijin trying their best to get everyone to leave this game by constantly adding bullshit?
Does anyone here shoot down the parachutes after killing someone?
I want to make sure he's down for good.
>>146629051
okay extreme sociopath
>>146629051
only filthy japs did this in ww2
if any western pilot did it they'd be at the very least completely disowned by their squadron
>>146629424
Not really.
The top Australian ace Clive Caldwell was known to chute parachutes in North Africa, and Adolf Galland noted that some German pilots were killed bailed in 44/45
>play P-61
>spawn 3k up
>play Do-217N
>spawn 500m above airbase
wew
>meet another turk
>call ataturk gay and start talking about the armenian genocide
>he starts swearing like crazy, not even moving
>after a solid multiple minutes of literally sitting there and insulting me he gets killed
tears were cash
>current year
>arcade maps like Karelia are still in the RB and SB rotation
I think this is proof that Gaijin are sociopaths who hate us
>>146629145
ok pussy
>>146616413
What problems are you actually having? By tier 3-4 players might generally have a better grasp of the game and know the common shitter spots, since most of the maps are so small and predictable
How do I into the nazi P-47? It feels so different from a 190 or 109
>wellington takes over 100 MG 151/20 rounds
>kills both pilots in my Do-217
wew lad
>>146630324
You boom and zoom. Even though the P-47 is supposed to be a super durable plane you're a one hit kill for most people if they hit you right.
Never lose your energy or you're dead
>>146629051
Ok Pocket
>people thought UK would vote remain
hahahaha
hi give me authentic /wsg/ tips for beginner thank you )))))
>>146505432
true,
Unturned > War thunder Ground forces
doesn't even have landing gear control or fixed guns on aircraft, yet it's still substantially better
>>146630401
>cant aim
>shitposts on 4chan
lol, kill yourself retard
>>146629607
This doesn't mean they were regarded well by their fellow pilots
>>146631207
>can't aim
>clearly said that I got loads of hits
Vegeta>Goku
I'd post the screenshot, but it was total shit
>slam into the ground over 2 kilometers away from the airfield in Do-217
>somehow I take minimal damage
>I begin to repair
hwat
>>146631124
play ussr because sekrit dokuments making glorious winner force stronker ))))
>>146631341
>occasionally gets a hit marker while firing at empty air
>loads of hits
daily reminder that ANYONE in the vg chat channel could secretly be a shitposter who can't aim
>>146631124
>/wsg/
I don't get this meme
What plane would he use?
>Getting abused in my Tiger IIH in uptiered matches
>Realize I never fire more than 20 shots a game anyways
>Friggin empty my tank out
>Suddenly, my survivability goes way up
I think my woes were all from getting ammo-racked in the turret.
Aside from that: I recently unlocked Sturer Emil, but I've never done much long-range sniping before, where are some good spots on various maps? (With all my previous german SPGs, I usually hold down lanes and chokepoints rather than snipe)
HALP how do i start my engine in sim?
>>146631798
I-153P
>>146631854
I
>>146631854
hold j
>Entire team is 5.7s with a single Tiger E
>Entire enemy team is IS-2s, T-44-122s, Centurions, and Caerns
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>146631854
Are you mentally retarded or what you fucking imbecile? By default it's the I key.
>>146632051
please don't bully me, i never played sim before and i barely play planes
>>146632046
>T-44-122
>hard to kill
T-44-122 is 5000% easier to kill than the T-44
>>146632289
Never said it was hard to kill, not for me at least, the issue is I can't fight an entire team by myself because they slaughtered mine.
>see enemy in sim
>turn to get behind him
>plane starts going into a death spin in place
>can't figure out how to regain control
>slowly watch as i desend into the ground spinning in circles
;_;
I will never be good
>>146632384
>not being able to carry
>Driving the caern post-nerf
>5 kills in RB despite being up against russian mememachines
>Get killed while capping the point because it's in direct line of sight with no cover from their spawn
>Get absolutely fuck all for my trouble because you don't get points for partial caps, those subhuman slav devs probably can't work out how to do it
>Game balance is -8k for that game just for dying once.
ENOUGH
IS
ENOUGH.
I just unlocked the Cent but can't even use it because it's going to take 50 games of 3+ kills just to get the repair and FPE kits.
>cent 3 gets downtiered to 6.3
>panther II doesn't
why?
>try to play sim
>hands start shaking
>start sweating a little, even though it's really hot out
>hands sweating the most
>try to start my engine
>accidentally hit rm -rf on my local hard RAM drive instead
>eject the floppy disk
>finally get engine started, try to take off
>plane starts going off to the side of runway even though im pointing straight?
>crash
>team starts making fun of me
>start crying
>realize my parents will never love me
>>146632453
I'd have to be in my Panther D instead of my Tiger H1 desu senpai
>>146632539
>tanks
>>146632442
Nose down, rudder against the spin, pull up gently once you're >300-350 km/h
>>146632597
Because the Panther II is a great tank that out plays the Cent 3 anyday
>Korean War Event
>2 modifications for Rank 5 aircraft of the USA and USSR trophy
So how is it? Will I unlock modifications for my F86F-2 or will I only get modifications for my P-80?
>>146625998
sauce
That dorsal turret.
Good lord.
>>146632774
>Panther II
>better than the Cent
at least 5.7s can frontally penetrate it
>>146633036
Cent be be penned by a flak panzer
>>146633090
I said frontally you shitter
>>146632937
>no defense underneath
add it, sure
>>146633168
They
Can
If you think the Panther II is worse than a Cent 3 you are a shitter
>>146633219
Panther II turret front: 120mm
Centurion 3 turret front: 172mm
not to mention it gets 285mm pen APDS
>>146633309
Have you ever heard of weak spots you fucking shitter?
And if you've ever played a Cent 3 you'd know the APDS will bounce unless you aim for Panther II and Tiger II weakspots despite both having armor pen far wrose than the APDS pen
>>146633383
>weakspots
ah so you're the one who perpetuates le "flank" meme
in that case, off yourself, teeb
>>146633383
>Panther 2
>Literally everywhere
>Cent Mk3
>Just the hull
If you get caught out in the open, that's not the tank being bad that's you, friend.
Probably a daft question but where should I be hitting Tiger 2's (and Panthers? Once they all get sloped armour I struggle to tell the difference on first glance) when facing them from the front?
Their turret seems to be a massive no-go, you need to be within spitting range to reliably hit the tiny cheeks to knock out teh gunner or breach, the barrel itself and the mantlet eats your rounds.
I try to never aim for the UFP/LFP since I'm coming from lower tiers where typically you have better luck going for the turret face itself if you're fighting head-on (or the turret ring in the chase of T-34s) if you're close enough, but again, but aiming for the UFP on tigers seems to be extremely hit or miss depending on the range and angle of the enemy (strangely enough I have an easier time penning at extreme distances, probably because the trajectory of the round defeats the slope?)
>>146633537
Are you actually retarded?
First of all the Cent Mk3 has 152mm of frontal turret armor around the cannon.
Panther II stock shell does 219mm at 500m
Second of all if you're not hull down your entire hull is a giant weakspot that anyone can pen.
But lets go back to the turret, if the enemy cent turns his turret at all away from you (ie: you're not a shitter and gets spotted by him and he goes for someone else) he instantly exposes even weaker armor that ranges from 90-100mm
But wait there's more, just right of the Cent 3 cannon is a giant fucking weak spot called the MG which if you hit dead on will have your shell explode all inside killing the entire crew.
BUT WAIT there's more, The Cent even has a capula right on top of it that can easily by penned by the Panther II causing his shell to explode right down into the crew.
If you can't kill a Cent 3 in a Panther 2 you are a shitter, and that doesn't even get into flanking that exposes paper thin armor
>>146633670
cheeks and LFP. otherwise just flankâ„¢
How long do Enduring Confrontations last?
Is it until you finish the objective or is there a timelimit?
I went in, took off twicecrashedand quit and got like 5k rp. Is this normal?
>>146633962
This is completely ignoring that the Panther 2 is just a slightly up-armored and up-gunned Panther at what more or less comes out to 7.0 judging by the tiering I usually get in mine.
>>146634385
wait really?
shit SHIT SHIT HOW DO I PLAY SIM QUICK GIVE ME THE RUNDOWN MY FRIENDS
>FuckmeWolf 190 A-4
>assblast a Hallifax
>random hurricane comes by and steals the kill by tickling it a bit
>spitfire gets behind me
>dead before I can even say "Fuck."
OI CHAPS WE WON THE WAR WITH OUR PLANES EH? ([:^)
>>146635042
>arcade
>>146635135
Yes. Arcade.
Because nobody likes climbing.
RB for GF.
>>146634715
>hit sim battles
>select the right tier
>hit play
Sim is a shit fest tho.
You have people who can barely fly their plane and then NEET experts with professional setups that fly like there's nothing hampering them at all.
>>146635379
I paid ~$60 for headtracking and a joystick and usually top scoreboard
literally just follow the DIY headtracking post in the OP
>>146633962
Don't know why you're mentioning the MG weakspot, when the entirity of the Caern/Cent turret can be penetrated from the front.
>>146635042
>Arcade
I'm slowly getting better at controlling my plane, but I still can't compete.
Spawned 3 times, shot down twice and i spun out of control the last ;_;.
I'm having some trouble shooting people when I have to lead since i can't see if they move when i try to aim up a bit
>>146633962
Cent has 152 plus a 20mm plate behind it
whats the hole for
>>146635186
>arcade for air
>realistic for ground
wow, wrong in 2 ways at the same time
>>146635707
If you're using head tracking, sit up in your seat to see over the HUD, it'll give you a better idea of whatever your target is doing.
Typically once you get into either a turn fight or have an elevation/energy advantage and start doing BnZ attacks, you have an easier time hitting the enemy in slashing attacks. If you're just sitting on his tail he has a much easier time just jinking.
what kind of joystick do you use?
Does it make a difference?
t-thanks
>>146636064
logitech 3D pro is good enough for DCS.
you don't need anything better unless you go full HOTAS
Why can't we ban bombershitters? They're literally the most handheld group of players.
>>146636064
this is what I use, cost me only like $600.
I play lots of flight sims, like passenger jets, etc.
>this for 7 hours
>>146633171
The tail turret has increased elevation and depression.
But I think the Lincoln would fit in nicely at BR 6.0.
>>146636712
>be in that position for 7 hours
>spitfire comes and shoots your plane down
>giant fuckload of bomber goes into a shitfest spin
>you loose no hope
>"not today"
>set the spitfire on fire as he tries to fly away
>yfw
>>146636890
what the fuck is that picture
>>146636767
>this much deadzone
>>146636712
>landing gears are destroyed
>b-17 has to do an emergency belly landing
>airfield tarmac turns you into red streak
i mean, arcade and RB air are just two completely different games. i hate RB and I hate climbing for half the match, but arcade is really just not even a fucking game if you ask me. it's like, fucking ace combat or something. call of duty with planes. whatever. point is, it's only for the biggest plebs. why do i even fucking play this shit game
>get a battle task to destroy 5 bombers
>start game
>enemy American team with not a single bomber
YEAH OKAY
>>146637324
>not just bailing
remind me why this is allowed
>>146637280
I dunno, mate. Even in Stirlings and B-17s, I still have people tail sitting me.
Are pilots smarter at 6 and 6.3?
>>146637742
Small family GF tree ))))
>>146637742
>T-10M has a repair cost 1/3rd that of the Caern
ENOUGH
IS
E
N
O
U
G
H
>>146637782
At 6.0 and higher you have planes that have much better thrust to weight and climbing ratios, and even downtiered jets.
Meaning you're going to have people who have the altitude or energy to dive on you from above with slashing attacks.
People typically sit on your tail because they have no other choice, they don't have the energy to do it safely from above (or below), they want to kill you before you drop your bombs and if that means getting killed themselves they're willing to do it.
>>146638020
>mad that his mid 50s era tank facing early 40s tanks is expensive to repair
cry harder, teeb
I use your tears to jerk off
>>146638226
>mid 50's 'heavy' tank with paper thin armour and can be penend by any shot to the front from almost any angle
>6 kills before getting one shot through my mantlet
>-7k after the repair bill.
Posted from my hard to use Panther II shitterbox.
>>146638358
>paper
>showing your lower glacis
looks like someone's a shitter
quit whining about your tank that regularly clubs tiger 1s
>>146638540
LFP, UFP, and mantlet can all be penned by any tank it faces.
>is so incompetent he actually managed to die to a Caern, which is a point and click to collect RP target
>shitposts about his failures in the thread
lyl
>>146638638
>point and click RP target
>this is what teebs believe
literally hang yourself
you faggots are what ruined ground forces
>>146638706
>doesn't deny that any shot that hits the Caern will penetrate and destroy it
>3/4 crewmembers are all in the turret with ammo stowage directly beneath them
>Penetrate the UFP/LFP and you hit either the driver and all the crew behind him, or the 30 rounds of ammo that sit in the machine gunner position.
