Tree based nectar edition
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>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
General: http://pastebin.com/SYUXsKPv
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wyz3Ye1g
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/GHStmm22
>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed: http://i.imgur.com/RMS2guW.png
>Notable links
Essentials: http://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
Focus System: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus
Buying and Selling items: https://warframe.market
News: https://forums.warframe.com/forum/170-news-events/
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION: http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY
THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Damage 2.n: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg
Droptables and Data: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2 (not maintained)
Tierqueer Filter: https://ghostbin.com/paste/by42s
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CURRENT UPDATE: Lunaro
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/660347-update-lunaro/
CURRENT PRIME ACCESS: Vauban
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/649037-update-18120-vauban-prime/
Older stream footage: http://pastebin.com/LkZRPteU
liestream highlights: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Livestreams
For specific liestream highlights, use http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Devstream_## (replace ##)
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/wfg/ OP pastebin, if its not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/iAgtMahh
>>146212097
Treeframe is shit.
xth for tenchufags happy never
Frogbutt and Frogbutt accessories.
Trying to make a Braton Prime awesome.
Any tips?
>out of Void Keys to get Nyx Chassis, Nova Chassis and Trinity Systems
p-plz no ;_;
grinding is tiresome, but knowing that the Void will disappear and I can't grind them anymore is even worse
>>146212413
What key is that again?
Nyx is cute! Cute!
>>146212413
>Void will disappear
What?
>>146212535
Trintiy Systems is T3MD
Nyx Chassis is T3Ext
Nova Chassis is T3Surv
>>146212619
noone knows how
but all we know is that the grind will get a new RNG layer
>>146212619
The void is getting replaced by a pachinko machine.
>>146211501
I was saying Why as in who the hell would even try to do this.
As he's in the delusion it might work in a team situation as its pretty useless.
I'm going to try what mods he put there, but with my own personal preferences and changes
Most of what he suggested is pretty useless.
>>146212778
t3surv you can leech. go for it.
>>146212413
Post ign, I've got some keys to burn through before they get fucked.
>inb4 higgus/bpnpc
I just solo'd sortie 3 (MD) as anunpotato'dOberon
I think an important question is how valuable are our keys now against the projection thing.
Is it better to hoard all the keys you can or to burn through them before the update?
>>146213013
ye, but survival is such a chore.
in comparison to all others.
>>146213048
thanks, but I'm going to bed soonish.
maybe I'll try to ask tomorrow again and leech :^)
>>146212097
Reminder that
Titania is not here yet because she is having important missions and having long adventures through the system and Void.
However, she writes her messages of poems and of her adventures of the void to her loving consort, Oberon with X's and O's in ancient Orokin writing as Oberon reads them in a love daze awaiting for his lovely other to return.
>>146213117
no one cares.
>>146213207
I wonder if she's gonna be one of those frames you need to fight to craft, like Inaros.
>>146213117
An anon did this months ago. He beaten you to it.
>>146213189
I'd say get what you want asap, because years might be restrictive. leeching might be the ideal.
get the most prime you need, then save keys for future PAs. we may see something against keyshares as well, so no more 1 t4d giving rewards for 4 players
>>146213297
>>146213338
nah, you will have toplay lunaro
>>146213415
>years
I mean tears
>>146213348
damn
o well, can't say it's difficult
>>146213189
I'd say burn through.
If it turns out that prime shit becomes way harder to get post-rework, then the price of both keys and the prime stuff will go up, so you don't lose anything by running them even though the value of the keys themselves went up.
>>146213420
Does curb stomping your face until you swallow all of your teeth count as bullying?
Vauban Chassis alert.
>>146213338
Hopefully not.
Rumors are that she's going to replace Nezha on the next Sortie season.
>>146213920
i started that rumor cause i was bored
>>146213790
>>146213569
What do you think they will do to compensate for removing our keys? I would think they would give us one free roll on the prime slot machine or whatever.
>>146214092
Well hope that she has her own quest. She debuts in Part 3 of U19.
>>146214175
They're turning your keys into void projections.
From the sounds of it, you might still need to "activate" them through void tears.
>>146213920
its the 6th time I post this image because of these kind on terrible and painful decisions
>>146214270
not >>146214175
but how horrifying
>Didn't like the Boltor Prime when it was top dog
>Used Braton Prime instead
>Don't like the Tonkor now
>Using Braton Prime instead
What the hell am I doing with my life?
anyone have any experience with the rubico/lanka? Want to try out a good sniper but 20 gallium seems a bit much.
>>146214365
braton prime is decent, i like it too
>>146214365
you're playing warframe, congratulations :D
>>146214365
suffering trhu the game instead of cumming black holes or antitank grenades
>>146214475
>20 gallium much
HA HA HA
I'm laffin
>>146214475
WHO THE FUCK HASancient memes
>>146214640
>>146214475
who the fuck has 300 gallium?
>>146214475
20 gallium, is quite a bit of gallium, anon. I understand.
>>146214640
shut the fuck up.
the low-tier conclave armor isn't half bad
Not really worth playing conclave for, but not horrible.and now I have to play conclave until I can see what the middle-tier armor looks like
>>146214113
It just seems like something you would enjoy.
>>146214853
the high end is cheaper and can be painted orokotang style easily
was there a syadna? don't think I saw one
>>146214853
Same thing, more spikes.
Elite Armor is even more spikes.
>Person comes up to you on trading relay to ask questions
>>146215067
The Lunaro Armor Set, I don't think so.
Conclave has a Syandana though, but it only
glows if you do Conclave challenges.
>>146215258
fuck that
someone had to steal ideas from Steverino, it was a matter of time, what a shitty clone but still does not make me less disappointed about Warfarm
it even has Ivara and nobody can go fast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLH0baMbhI0
>>146215793
fucking hell, why does anybody need another game with pixar-esque characters?
I know this is gonna sound shilly, but things like that make me like warframe a bit more.
>>146215793
>third-person shooter with character abilities = warframe clone
>>146212097
argh
>>146216031
That's right shill you protect warframe.
Holy shit. And I thought you guys were bad in social situations.
>>146216152
the game has literally nothing in common with warframe except "3rd person shooter with abilities"
you might as well as say Agents of Mayhem ripped off Mass Effect
>>146216152
Motherfucker, since when is a game with randumb shit like Saint's Row even close to what warframe is?
Is warbros OSG offical clan is this just the clan shill of the day?
>>146215793
I mean battleborn was such a success
inb4 they pull out
>>146216386
Hey, I like Saint's Row2
>>146216152
1 For once tierqueer is actually right, that game isn't even close to warframe
2 If anything that comment would be protecting agents of mayhem not warframe
>>146216563
I liked the first game the most.
well alright. there's literally nothing that can be done to stop spectres of the rail. what will happen with delerict and key farming? what are your hopes for this new rng machine? got any prime part you are missing?
I'm honestly worried about ducat farm. it might take the biggest hit yet.
wait, spectres? is that a James Bond reference?
>>146215793
Christ, from the Youtube preview I thought this was Battleborn
>>146216460
what did he mean by this?
>>146216817
I dont care, I'm gonna keep playing this shit, no matter what, it's the only thing I have.
I've been seriously considering getting audiobooks so I don't become completely stupified by the grind.
>There's a reflection of a planet in the large water garden room in the Dojo
>>146217687
get a esport. I'm sinking in wows, mildly pleased with it
>>146217429
what did he memed by this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/4p7bpa/rebecca_ford_on_twitter_would_you_be_interested/
>>146218035
I actually have no idea what you meant, what is OSG? what do you mean by shill clan?
>>146218127
I think prime time and liestreams are enough.
i sent it to him after we lost but blocked him afterwards
These are the real grades goys.:^)
>>146218890
>mag
>archer
lawl
>>146218127
》theorycrafting
DE confirmed not knowing how their own game works.
>becca will never suck your skana during breaktime at tennocon
life isnt worth it
>>146219537
wanna bet neither becca nor megan knew the answer to something like that armor sortie shit? probably only fatfuck did, if even him
>>146219746
>implying such design document exist
this was written in a napkin that got soaked in beer wich then steve promptly though it was genius because it had the ^ symbol and told scott to do it while opening a new beer with it and pouring one for himself and scott
>>146212097
Can someone who isn't a forum-shitter start making generals? I'm tired of the same 4 fucking images.
>>146220495
do you want tierqueer to make them again?
>>146220495
No
>>146218890
what the aabsolute fuuck
>>146215793
>mfw they even got Vor
tell me this will be F2P,with volition behind it it will a better all around warframe
https://warframe.com/news/devstream-76-overview
these Projections are literally just going to add more layers of RNG
>>146220495
Let's not do this again.
>>146221136
>unannounced but exciting additions
>>146215793
>teleportion harpoon
>tele-portion
>tell-a-poor-shun
in all seriousness though, this looks like forgettable shit.
>>146221853
like the Skinner box warfarm is
>T4
>Identified 2500 credits
>>146221853
>in all seriousness though, this looks like forgettable shit.
you can't say that if you play warfarm
>>146220495
Then make the next thread when this one archives anon instead of complaining.
>>146214365
Braton Prime's firing sound is awful.
>>146222189
nothing about this screams "skinner box" to me. I'm reminded more of "State of Emergency" for the PS2 than warframe, here.
>>146212381
Go for Rad-Viral status Serration Multishot Ammo mutation and Heavy Caliber/Shred
>>146222925
>I'm reminded more of "State of Emergency"
same here
>>146218561
>>146223091
Loki nerfs incoming
Is this build still good?
http://www.tennoarmory.com/desecrate-farming/
>>146218671
didn't get enough upvotes the first time? have a (you) friend
>>146221191
>tfw that Nezah looks familiar
>tfw that liset looks familiar
>tfw that's your liset
>notable links
Oh shit, I remember making that thread.
i want to keep using helios, but he doesn't have vacuum
;_;
>>146223701
I would use cp instead. Yeah just slap a natural talent and a vitality on there and you're good.
>>146223701
Desecrate was nerfed into oblivion
use stone gaze or hentai augment if you want to loot
why cant i repeat my last chat mesage by presing "up" in the chat window? I disticintly ermeber tehy added it a few months ago and that i got it to work a few times then.
>>146223701
Desecrate scales with power strength now.
handgun shotgun when?
>>146224518
redeemer says hi
>>146224548
Redeemer is a shotgun blade
Anon here is obviously asking for a Hand Cannon.
>>146224548
hi reedemer.
i want a secondary tho you fucktard.
>>146224420
>"Probability percentages are not affected by Power Strength. "
stop talking shit you too
>>146224420
KING OF HEALTH ORBS AND FERRITE
>>146224661
redeemer might as well be a hand cannon
>>146221136
I can't help but think prime parts/blueprints will now only be available from that trader faggot, you'll have to get them for ungodly amounts of ducats and THEN you'll have to use this "projection" currency that you can farm from the void to make them. Which means prime parts won't be available 24/7 but locked behind RNG, they will be available for bursts of limited time and it will be completely in DE's discretion when they become available. Less RNG, less reason to farm void, more time to acquire prime sets.
I hope I'm wrong. This is fucking terrifying.
>>146224673
>>146224671
>Believing the outdated wiki
I bet you believe eximus still do damage through the rift as well
>>146214853
Would you be willing to show it in the arsenal with default colors and shit, I'm trying to decide which one I like more, This new armor set has to be the best looking one so far and kinda fits all frames, Really disappointed that it kinda floats or sticks out on Volt Prime for some reason and I hope they fix that.
>>146224792
prove it wrong then,you're the one claiming it scales now so the burden of proof is on you
>>146224893
What do you want me to do? desecrate a thousand bodies with strength and without strength, and then run ANOVA statistical analysis on the percentages?
Try playing Nekros and you'll see.
No DE, I'm not fucking farming limbo goddammit.
I havent even bought the fucking quest, why do you uugghghh
>>146225117
Pretty un-expecting to give the blueprint as a daily reward.
>>146225061
no, just go try 5 minutes survival in mercury and show us how many shit did you get by the end of the round.
until then shut the fuck up.
>>146225225
seems to me they're giving you random items from the market.
I thought it was limited to weapons.
>>146225061
It doesn't work. No mods you apply will change the percentage. You would have a better chance with using casting speed mods.
>>146224518
>What is Brakk, Bronco(Prime), (Mara)Detron, or Pyrana
Angstrum with max mag size and multishot could count, I guess?Also Twin Viper Wraiths
>>146224671
kohmak
brakkdetronkraken
so you guys are getting primed fury and blueprints from daily tribute and i'm just getting 5k credits and morphics and other useless shit
is this what i get for not spending money?
Any mention of Sentinels lately past the announcement of a starting quest for them a month or two ago? They all need to have an innate vacuum effect already
>>146224717
>mfw Baro brings a selection of primes, unobtainable otherwise because they are in the prime access, and the only way to buy them is with an exorbitant amount of ducats.
pic related
>>146225343
>>146225353
i want a sawed off sancti trigris, fucking autists
>>146225391
Nah mate you're just uninformed. Fury and the tater/booster packs are milestone rewards, not random chance.
>>146225061
>Simulacrum
>spawn 20, low-ish level Ancient boilers
>shred them with whatever hitscan slash weapon you want, Kohm could work thanks to its innate punchthrough and high sustained fire
>Shred all the infested that spawn out of pods
>spam desecrate
I would have suggested Drakk or Hyekka masters, but the dogs and cats have innate health orb drop chances so the results would be skewed.
>>146225391
it's what you get for not reading the wiki
>>146224420
this is a hard one to prove, isn't it? it might be possible to look at the ability's script and determine it, but the rumor has been going around too often that desecrate was nerfed in some way so it seems likely...
>missed the e3 humble bundle thing for the starter pack bonus
fuck me
>>146225685
???
>>146225573
they should do away with the mod and give frames innate vacuum, having to run over your loot is so archaic. it doesn't even need to be 10m, 5m is plenty.
>>146225794
You can't get mods in the simulacrum, nor life support.
>>146225974
Not anon but.
>He doesn't know that you can get argon to drop in the simulcrum
>>146225974
He can go to fucking mercury and prove his statement in 5 minutes.
>>146225685
Then Redeemer or this >>146225852 are your only choices, Pot. Regular Bronco only has 2 shots per mag, if that's what you are clinging to. Its also one of the worst weapons in the game, so good luck.
>>146226095
>>146225061
actually, this is legitimately the only way you can prove power strength increases Desecrate drop chances
>>146226095
FIxed in the next hotfix, thanks for reporting!
>>146226298
just wanted a tiny shotgun for my mad max fashion frame ;_;
>>146225974
>>146226095
I've gotten the occasional mods and resources in the simulacrum. Keeping them is another thing completely, considering the only way to leave there is to abandon or alt-f4. Both of which sacrifice all rewards.
>>146226735
join someone
make sure you're not host
go to the relay with friend
Go to sim
get items and mods
Tell your friend to do a 5 mins survival
as soon as he is about to extract force crash your game
if the crash report pops up you did it right
log back in
if you don't get a "want to rejoin" message it means DE fixed it
>>146227258
>posting sleek
What the fuck is wrong with you? Not like I ever got a rare mod there anyways, but the only time I tried to enter the simulacrum in a group, it didn't let me. I was the host, though.
Am I able to get a guy to buy Tempo Royale for 80?
https://my.mixtape.moe/azmvkx.7z
ok I'm stuck on this part, can anyone tell me what to do with these files? I still don't know how exactly tools like the evolution sound converter produce usable audio files from the B, F, and H files (binary, ???, header?), so I don't really have a good starting point for recreating the powersuit ability scripts
#justscriptkiddyproblems
>>146227789
You can do a LOT higher than 80 for a Tempo Royale.
Jew harder
>>146227915
A maxed one 120?
>>146227823
>>146212381
>4k sustained dps
o i am laffin
>>146212381
Go Corrosive/Viral + Heat status build. Heat and slash procs add up.
And add heavy caliber.
>>146228179
That sounds fine, but I've seen that shit go up for 200.
In the end it depends how desperate someone is.
Reminder that you should use WFBuilder to see if a weapon is good instead of asking /wfg/
>>146228179
>maxed
It's an R3 mod, unranked vs maxed is negligible.
>Discovered the magic of THAT excavation place
All them golden cores.
>>146228879
>>146229750
Time to fine desperate people in the relay.
Damage 3.0 when? When will multishot be made useless and finally free me?
>>146230227
When Scott is finish fapping to Archwing, fucking Limbo, and ruining Ash
Hello friends! I haven't played this game since a year or so after release.
Questions:
Are Sortie missions hard at all? Anything I need to know? I hear that they're the only way to get Nezha blueprints.
What weapons are OP now? I played back when armor piercing/toxic was godly, but it looks like the new damage system changed all that.
Now that (I hear) zorencopter is no longer a thing, what melee weapons do people use?Does Warbros still win events and go fast?
>>146229680
>I'll post my idiotic image in every thread because all the people new to the game or coming back to the game should spend half a day checking out every single weapon and a fuckton of mod combinations and still have to account for a bunch of factors they won't be able to get a feel for until they actually build and try the thing, and encourage everyone to be an elitist little cunt instead of spending 15 seconds to type out a reply about the current most popular weapons and good non-core mods for them
Reminder you need to get over yourself and stop being stupid.
>>146229680
>I know what this place made specifically to discuss warframe needs
>Ways to avoid warframe discussion at all costs!
please, as if the threads weren't dead enough
>>146230805
Tonkor and some of the syndicate weapons (s tigris, synoid, v hek) are most used now but all in the image are okay
War and Nikana Prime for melee
>>146230805
Overall sorties aren't hard, you can cheese through most of em. Deception, spy, and rescue are the easiest, thanks to one frame alone. The only challenge that comes from them is when its x weapon only and you either don't have that class of weapon or a very weak version if it.
>>146230816
if people ask "which weapon is good" then wfbuilder is not helpful for the reasons you describe
but people often ask about specific weapons, e.g. "is Tiberon good" or "are the wraith twin vipers from the event good" in which case using wfbuilder is significantly more helpful
wfbuilder is especially good for comparisons, e.g. "is Lex P better than Vaykor Marelok" and an old favorite, "Is Hek better than Vaykor Hek"
>>146230805
>Are Sortie missions hard at all
60% are piss easy with good gear
30% take a while but are doable
5% actually a bit of work
5% are just fucking why
You can also trade for Nezha, he's the only non-prime with tradable parts.
Basically sorties are just a series of 3 high-level missions, each with some modifier applied to them.
>What weapons are OP
Tonkor for MR<12
Simulor for MR>=12
>What melee weapons
War, Broken-war, Memethos prime, Nikana prime, Jet Kitty, and a few others.
>Does Warbros still win events
Warbros prime, yes. They only teams they lost to in the last event were a group of blatant cheaters and a clan many times their size.
I though the Akstitiletto had a high critical chance.
Should I just ignore that and go to forma my aksomati?
>>146231428
yes
>>146230917
Thank you for your insightful, Warframe-related post.
>>146231428
it has decent critical chance, secondaries have primed crit mods so they need less base crit to actually be considered crit weapons.
>>146231428
see >>146229680
mod for crit anyway
hey bros new player here, is the ignis worth forma-ing?
20 minutes left on the Vauban Chassis.
>>146232174
Nah. If you're new you probably don't have a lot of forma and you can do better than the ignis. It's still really good for low level farming but you don't need a forma for that.
>There are people in this thread that sold their Dex Sybaris
>>146232630
they'll give it again next year. it's mediocre anyway.
>>146232630
I only sell my extras for dex shit
>>146232630
>There are people in this thread that kept a subpar annual weapon they will get every year
>There are people upset about free slots
>>146232064
hey guys how do i get excalibur prime ?
>>146233543
>(you)
>>146233372
Look at that smug ass face.9
>>146233543
DE plans on releasing it after they remove most of the grinding and fix the scaling
>>146233818
Oh man, I heard that's when they'll buff Oberon too!
>>146233935
Stop. I don't need this.
>>146233372
The one and only
https://clyp.it/setzj45g
How does the vectis prime hold up against the regular vectis? I remember when it first came out that while vectis prime had better numbers there was something about recoil, reload and magazine that made keeping the regular vectis a viable choice, but I could be wrong.inb4 tiermong links me to his image
>put on volt
>max power strength
>toss on some duration and sprint mods as available
>use AHK and VAC to constantly blast sanic over voice
>start pubbing alerts and invasions for shit I don't even need
I forgot this game can befun
>>146234081
They also plan on getting dedicated servers, reward players with free plat time to time, and lower the prices of some of the bundles in the store.
>>146212097
I just want to gunplay with rifles and pistols but there isn't a good early frame suited for it until freaking mesa. Any advice besides frost tank ?
>>146234435
>>146234482
Chroma
>>146229680
revised
I guess using wfbuilder might be difficult for people who know jack shit about weapons/modding
now it's just an infographic about how accurate wfbuilder is
seriously though, if you know how to mod weapons, wfbuilder is significantly better than asking /wfg/ because it provides an objective basis for comparison
>>146234823
>>>/forums/
>>>/reddit/
>>146234482
you dont need a specific frame for guns, just play whatever you want.besides oberon and limbo
>>146234482
any frame can use any weapon
with few exceptions, every frame uses every weapon equally well
Going this far to compensate for your own social problems that you have to control an entire general.
>>146230805
Warbros the moon clan is dead.
Warbros the 30 mansplinterclan is less dead, but tries in events. Not like it matters since all events are participation trophies nowadays. They did almost beat the #1 moon clan in the last event though, CM Prime.
Why is DE changing things to be ass backwards and less fun and more time consuming?
How would lowering the affinity range even for INCEPTION make any sense? That whole mode strategy is to spread out and defend a point.
Why cant they make forma leveling less tedious?
Why do certain items have a 3% drop rate?
Why would they make moving around SLOWER?
Why does accumulating focus take fucking forever?
Why does it feel like using boosters is how the game is supposed to be played. If you aren't using boosters constantly you will gain everything at a snails pace.
The more I play this game the more I notice how unfriendly it becomes to anyone who invests time into it. There is just no reward for anything. There is nothing to show for playing this game.
I just needed to rant I'm getting really pissed off at the direction this game is heading in.
>>146234931
Rude.
>>146234914
anon please, there is a lot of confusion about how accurate wfbuilder is
a lot of people seem to think it sucks, but it's really not and is a very useful tool for making builds
>>146235123
Buy plat.
>>146235123
i'm hating the game more in a patchly basis but hey, what are you gonna do
the only reason i'm actually here is because i don't really have anything else to play
>>146234823
>>146229680
literally nobody is asking you for this, in fact many people have literally expressed wishes for you to NOT (putting aside the sentiment all the shitposting that your "guides" seem to incur might indicate), and all you're doing is restating ancient things found in the OP's (admittedly outdated and in a few cases garbage) pastebins
>>146235184
there is no confusion, it's as shit as the in-game arsenal and offers only the most minimal of loosely comparable useless metrics, with its only benefit being its function as an easy searchable drag-and-drop build simulator out of game
>red crit Redeemer is dead
thanks DE
what the fuck is happening with my game when I hold alt
>>146235623
What are you talking about?
>>146235623
Wait really???
>>146235557
just having fun making content anon, and hopefully teaching others how to teach themselves
>it's as shit as the in-game arsenal
this is exactly what I mean
a lot of people think WFBuilder is bad but it's not. As a result, it's underused and we see dozens of questions about "is X weapon good" and "is X weapon better than Y weapon" when these questions can be answered by a 2-min search in WFbuilder
WFBuilder DPS calculations are accurate for most things
There are things it doesn't take into account (most notably status) but it provides a good approximation, and you can mentally take note of how important certain functions are
with gottfaust's calc dead, there exists no better tool
Is ember a good choice for a player wanting to branch out from his starting frame ?
>>146235959
Yep. She's pretty fun on her own too.incoming futafags basically homos in denial
>>146235890
Exactly what it says, they patched out red crit Redeemer.
Non-newshit but curious here, what's exactly wrong with people using redirection/vitality? I very rarely use them nowadays but I don't see what's wrong with them.
>>146235959
She is really great for low and mid level content. Get some anons to give you stretch, intensify, duration and less drain mods (these are pretty common at higher levels but you may not have them yet) and watch everything fucking burn. Especially good against infested. You'll solo lvl30-ish infested defense no problem.
So is the guy pushing "wfbuilder as a guide" confirmed to be tierqueer? Not going to bother trying to talk any sense into him if so.
>>146236282
>single person's opinion represents this entire general
>>146236282
Nothing but there are better mods than those for your frames.
>>146236282
>Q: Should I use survivability mods like Vitality/Redirection/Steel Fiber/Vigor etc.?
>A: In DEAC these mods can make your life easier, but in endgame the vast majority of frames have no use for these mods. There are exceptions such as Wukong and Inaros, and the guide explains each exception when it occurs. There are 2 reasons why these mods are bad lategame: 1) Lategame enemies simply too deal much damage for you to tank and can easily kill you through Redirection/Vitality 2) There's no need to have survivability when you have CC. The most common survivability mod lategame is Quick Thinking (QT) in conjunction with Prime Flow, which gives you much higher effective HP than the common survivability mods. Even still, QT is only used as an emergency measure in case things go south, NOT to tank.
>>146235959
shes always been one of my favorites. Shes fun but for end game you'll probably want to find another frame you find fun that will make it easier. That's not to say shes bad though, she is great at wiping most of the content very fast.
>>146235917
how do you qualify it >not being >bad? those questions won't be answered or their askers dissuaded by your efforts, and what's worse is you are misleading people by making them think it is a reliable tool with which to compare weapons and make material decisions when your little note about damage not being everything barely scratches the surface (and cases wherein such considerations ARE material are intuitively obvious by simply looking for a second at a weapon's basic stats without using any sort of external tool or measurement)
the reality is that such simple one-dimensional DPS calculation is a useless metric in a game with as many oddball layered mechanics and one-off gimmicks as warframe, coupled with the analogue dynamic of it being a shooter in a (limited) 3D space with (increasingly limitedl) dynamically mobile players and enemies and something like gottcalc was the closest we ever got to a reliable tool of that nature
>>146236282
they offer comparatively little in the way of survivability for their cost (in terms of mod drain and slot) and are almost always outclassed by other options, but can be useful in the early game or when building for specific purposes
>>146231235
>tatered an Attica a year ago because actually found it to befun
>come back and find the Zhuge now exists
>>146236434
explain why wfbuilder is inaccurate using reasons not already given in >>146234823
>>146236452
not just tiermong, i've seen other people bashing on people for using them
>>146236459
what about frames that don't make a good use of QT+Flow/PFlow?
>>146236581
that makes sense i guess
>>146232064
You're shilling your own posts.
Don't you see how cancerous that is?
>>146236282
mostly its not the mods themself to blame.
In prettymuch every worthwhile content you get 1-2shot without them and 3-4 shot with them, out of the hundred shots coming at you per second, so its more useful to invest the mod capcaity into something that actaully stops them from shooting at you (be it CC or killing them faster) rather than "tanking" it
>>146236636
I'm assuming that's a "yes I'm tierqueer"
I don't need to explain why it sucks because you already fucking did.
It's only accurate for comparing builds on the same weapon, but completely misses things like the fact that tonk/sim have fuckhuge AoE and headshot multis.
A new player can't be expected to know about all the unaccounted for variables. Saying "it doesn't account for x, y, and z" is your own admission as to why it's completely impassible as a guide for new players.
>>146236282
if there are more mod slots, they'd see more use
>>146236135
post source then.
>>146237019
>go to your arsenal
>build for red crit redeemer
>do a mission
>fire red crit redeemer
>get no crits
>>146236581
you are significantly underestimating pure DPS. In fact, DPS is literally the most important factor by far when considering whether a weapon is "good"
Secondary characteristics such as ammo efficiency, syndicate procs, etc. are VERY easy to mentally take note of
e.g. Warframe is a horde shooter, so AOE weapons like Tonkor/Kulstar will generally be better than single-target weapons like Bows/Snipers even if DPS calculations don't match up
>>146234187
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>>146231428
all these questions can be easily answered by using WFBuilder
>>146236135
Post your proof then faggot.
>>146237294
there's no shame in admitting you don't know how to build a red crit redeemer in the first place
>tiermong stops shilling his own guide and starts shilling wfbuilder
IT NEVER ENDS
>>146237345
Uhh ok.
>>146236927
the only factor that matters which WFBuilder doesn't take into account is Status
stuff like AOE, ammo efficiency, accuracy, etc. is all common sense
I admit that new players will have trouble figuring common sense stuff out, which is why I changed the infograph
but for anyone who's played more than a couple dozen hours, all the secondary characteristics are easy to take into account
>>146232630
Enjoy not having the gun next year because DE creates a Dex Vault.
>>146237181
>>146237447
Because a newshitter is totally supposed to go through all ~300 weapons in the game in wfbuilder.
Because a newshitter is supposed to carefully read the wiki page to figure out which weapons have aoe.
Jesus christ you're retarded, you don't even understand why people would want a tierlist in the first place (a good one, not the shit that leaks out of your asshole).
If it's so easy to go through weapons on wfbuilder, and so easy to determine how good a weapon is based off of that, then go assemble them into a tier list. Why make every newshitter do all the work again?
>>146237383
>Giving him attention
>Not just ignoring his bait
This is how he wins
>>146237658
I really, really want to just say "he's pretending to be retarded, ignore him and his bait"
But deep down, we all know he's not pretending.
>play a certain warframe
>end up really liking this warframe
>it's your favorite
>gear it out and customize it
>think about getting a nice animation set
>???????
>enjoy your nice animation set
please help i don't what to do for ??????????
Is this WFBuilder guide the new meme?
>>146237658
I've been making the mistake of engaging him because he seems to actually believe his own shit, and I just have trouble ignoring that when he seems to be actively trying to shove his misinformation down newshitters' throats which could actually be, I suppose, damaging
>>146237902SWINDLE GOYIM
>>146237902
Jew others out of their shekels
>>146237656
how can you fail reading comprehension this hard
>go through all ~300 weapons in the game in wfbuilder
I explicitly said this is NOT the purpose of WFBuilder. If you want to know the top weapons, someone already made a picture of it
>a newshitter is supposed to carefully read the wiki page to figure out which weapons have aoe
No, they don't need to read the wiki because they already fucking know the basics of the weapon they want.
People don't roll dice to determine which weapon they want
People hear or see a cool weapon, in which case they already know if it's an explosive weapon or a dual pistol or a bow. THEN they want to know if that weapon deals good damage or not
Like the "Hek vs. Vaykor Hek" arguments
or the "Lex P vs. Vaykor Marelok" arguments
these arguments are stupid when WFBuilder exists
>146237447
>146237181
>146236636
>146236485
>146236282
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>146234823
>146232174
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>146213117
So he spent 5 months waiting for us to cave?
>>146237181
>near 20k sDPS
>AOE explosions
Ogris GOAT weapon confirmed!
OFFICIAL /WFG/ TIERLIST
God tier:
Ivursa posters
Saryn Fart posters
Warbros Stronk posters
Uninstall posters
Ok tier:
Reinstalled posters
Cancer tier:
Vitality users
Forumites
Tierqueer tier:
Tierqueer
Becca posters
Higgus
>>146238049
>>146238080
i have plat
i mean more like
there is literally no preview
how the hell can i pick one out
Forgot to post this once again. Too busy fucking up my sleep schedule.
Talk about your warframe day. How was your Warframe today? Whether or not you actually played the game, tell us what you did and what you're looking forward to in this games development.
Ten more hours and my Vauban Prime should be finished building. Next up is the Akstiletto Prime, but I need two of each part excluding the BP and link and those parts cost a bunch. I don't know if it's even worth building.
>>146238128
>People hear or see a cool weapon, in which case they already know if it's an explosive weapon or a dual pistol or a bow. THEN they want to know if that weapon deals good damage or not
>This is what tierqueer ACTUALLY believes
I'm done, I shouldn't have even written those two responses. Filterbin updated when?
