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Early Access done right Edition
Latest Patch
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=118130
>KF2 Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/kf2vg
Memetastic maps by /kfg/:
>KF-Mall http://drive.google.com/file/d/0BywcqXA0Kt4IS3pwMFQ2VVRHZ00/view?pli=1
>KF-ParkingGarage http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=642348804
>KF-DanceFloor http://www.moddb.com/games/killing-floor-2/addons/kf-dance-floor-contest
>KF-Fog_Rig http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=646654523
>KF-GreenStreet http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=646131633
>KF-Antarctic http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=644445723
>KF-LetsTryGas http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=677201858
>KF-Nuked http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=642313451
Mods n shit:
>Anon's weapon skins and modded Soundtracks
http://mega.nz/#F!axEgHD7L!7d-vuxYC5SBMmADi6cMjlA
>Abandon All and Abandon All v3 music for Patriarch
https://mega.nz/#!FEpEBAiC!Zf4NcB6xp8esqmLi421un1qBCzF6xKicZowe0HpVyOA
https://mega.nz/#!EEAQjBoD!vLLLOTS9e0es3VNFVw8wg6pXgB8fMmhL0Fnm-2kQ0qI
>Engraveless 1911 skin
http://kf2.gamebanana.com/skins/143388
>Anon's guide to modding sounds
http://pastebin.com/UTnM0yb8
>Useful console commands for testing or goofing around:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=424641626
>Spreadsheet with lots of stats about Perks, Damage, Weapons, Etc:
http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GDpg2mN1l_86U_RaDug0glFx8cZCuErwxZLiBKl9SyY/
>Grind map for gaining xp fast:
http://kf2.gamebanana.com/maps/187635
>Mapping/modding help, Bugs, Tweaks, Downloads, and extra stuff:
http://pastebin.com/w5jdaGVn
>Old 2015 /kf2g/ pastebin info (old server IPs):
http://pastebin.com/gCA9DkDw
EU servers:
open 85.236.101.21:8077?password=rage
open 51.254.187.123:7777 no password
Make sure to post your review to bring down the score anons.
Don't let other people fall for the same tricks we did.
xth for anime
>41%
>Despite FW shills
JUSTICE
>>145731869
They can't murder us all, senpai
>>145731682
SO I TOLD BLOAT TO RESIST HEADSHOTS
>go to read the bad reviews
>first one I see is "Try to ban me here fucking Tripwire"
Is it really that bad? Do they ban anyone with a negative opinion of the game?
Which retard at tripwire is fucking up this game? They all can't be a bunch of gagglefucks.
LET THE SCORES HIT THE FLOOR,
LET THE SCORES HIT THE FLOOR,
LET THE SCORES HIT THE FLOOR,
>>145732445
You can't just call people "retard", I'm gonna have to take your CD key buddy
>>145732367
yes I posted on a recent update my criticism (constructively with ways to improve) and got banned for derailing/flamingmore posters agreed with me and only the tripfag defense force derailed that thread, at first the ban sounds plausible but it's literally communism now
Man when it comes to dealing with free weekend shitters looks like setting up a server was the right way to go
dank
>>145733692
>setting up a server
I think that's what TWI wants you to do.
>>145733964
Well I mean with a password
tfw a dozen thumbs up on your negative review
So this is what posting on Reddit feels like.
>A ton of fanboys literally make dozens of puppet accounts and download Killing Floor 2 on free weekend to rate it, often with little to no playtime and meaningless content
>Steam Reviews take those in as perfectly legitimate reviews that count towards the Recent and Overall score
There's people somewhere who say Steam Reviews is an actually good system
>>145734721
There's people out there who say anyone actually bases purchasing decisions off of Steam reviews
>>145732672
The only thing I can think of when I see his face isJUST
>>145732445
https://m.reddit.com/u/OB-StuntCock
>>145734721
Well, you can just briefly study the "hours played" and discount them.
We have 1k hour+ scrake punishers telling everybody what's up
>people are giving good steam reviews because they finally released SS, literally more than 6 months late
some fucking people
>>145731848
That's MY picture, give it back.
>>145735473
They're such a small, busy team. They were busy taking in our data, and consideringthey have no fucking idea what to do because they cannot make a single decision about anything
post-autismo resistance update, what is the meta
>>145735613
Uninstalling the game and firebombing the TWI HQ
>>145735613
Sharpshooters for everyone.
And a Medic.
>>145735613
Medic
Commando
At least one sharpshooter, but 2 or 3 is ideal
Rest can be whatever
Note I haven't played much with this update but from my one HoE game/clear this seems to be the most effective.
You can nitpick which classes are good for what, but Medic is for healing, Commando trash clearing, and SS for big zed handling (and can even help with trash clearing).
Firebug is utterly useless and might as well be a joke class.
Zerk is good for bosses but is lacking during the normal waves in my experience. Feels way weaker than v1008 zerk.
Gunslinger is ok but feels like a lesser Commando to me.
Demo is ok, but is a bit weaker now. You can carry M79 and RPG now, plus your explosions will literally send zeds flying (but won't kill). The +impact damage perk skills don't work, so you're stuck with a limited skill tree until they're fixed. I prefer RPG/C4/Medic SMG for the healing utility.
I haven't seen a single support since the update, but I guess they're ok for sirens and ammo bags.
I could be completely wrong though.
>>145735570
It's ours.
>>145735613
Sharp-Medic-Commando
Rest are either nerfed to be shit, or didn't get touched but resistances made them utterly useless.
>>145734721
Even they can't undone what is already fucked THIS hard.JUST
Is it even worth playing this game anymore?
>>145737489
not really
>>145736454...
>>145735613
4 Sharpshooters, 1 Medic, one Commando.
You can replace a Sharpshooter with a Demo for a giggle. Everything else is a dead weight on the team and will either be unfun to play or set you up for a votekick against you.
>>145731869
imagine how low the score would be if they didnt happen
we'd be in the fucking 30s
>first payday 2
>now this
Is there some kind of curse on co-op horde shooters?
>>145738873
soon. Free weekenders on the whole don't care to review.
>>145734361
im at 22 out of 28
>>145738905
If having shit developers is a curse, then yes.
even reddit is furious about this patch
I wonder how long tripwire will sit on this before it blows up in their face
>>145740131
it's already done, they're just moving too slow to realize they've fucked up.
>tfw you will never watch healslut and kilo heal each other while the rest of the team wipes
>tfw you will never give nepnep the proper dicking she deserves
>>145741319
>not Uni
>no more british characters because we need diversity guise
Fuck you Gibson, give me my sarcastic, depressed wankers!
>>145738905
But Payday 2 is now good again with the new skills update.
wankeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers!
t. Briar
oh wow
-barking
It's BEWM STICK TIEM
>The official wikia says something about the Siren being super weak to explosives, a reward for being able to explode her past her scream
>Resistance update
>She's now practically immune to explosives that hit her
>>145742481
It's not a bug, it's a feature ;^)
>>145742481
>playing demo
>don't have the sonic resistant projectiles perk
>notice that about a third of my shots are still making it through the scream
>when I wait until the scream has ended an alarming amount of my shots do dissapear as if it were still active
>take the perk that makes all projectiles 100% resistant to the scream
>aboslutely nothing changes
>>145742817
posted in wrong general.
>>145742898
I was wondering why that was there
1 0
>Game 1
>Two friends clearing trash and acting like they're carrying the team while raging big guys on the rest of us, arguing with other players in voice chat
>Game 2
>Team rages scrake I could have easily disposed of, gets the jump on me, die
Yeah I'm about done with this """free weekend""" desu
>>145744848
I usually play on lower difficulties on free weekends so the shitters don't completely ruin the game for me but with this resistance change I'll just wait until monday before I consider playing again
>>145744848
I'm staying the hell away from coop, VS is actually fun now since you can just take a giant shit on clueless shitters and laugh as your teammates get killed and run laps around the map as 25 Medic
>Haven't played KF2 for 5+ months
Is Gunslinger any good?
Have they fixed microwavegun/flame tapping at monster's feet as firebug?
>>145746760
Nothing is good at the moment anon. Maybe try waiting another five months, though it's just as likely to be even worse by then.
>>145747147
Sharpshooter is good though, it can solo 6p HoE scrakes and fps with ease.
>>145745982
VS sounds good, i need the win as zed achievement
>rev up free weekend
>played KF to death so this should be good
>oh baby medic still has a shotgun
>the gunshot sounds like a wet fart
this is going to be horrible isnt it
>>145748361
Buddy you have no idea. Also that Shotgun? Qualifies as an "SMG" as far as damage type is concerned, that's why Medics can at least kill trash like they used to.
>>145747147
So-o-o-o... Every zed got resistances buffs. Does it mean most of them become bullet sponges that make dual pistols absolete?
People are saying sharpshooter is good, why not gunslinger then? He is kinda like sharpshooter, gets +% damage from headshots.
>>145732672
>>145734937
Daily reminder Johns wife has left him after two years of being in an open relationship
>>145749620
i only played two games since SS came out but SS is so OP it's fucked. within two rounds I had enough for the m14, which has like 140 rounds of ammo and can fucking brain most things at level 0 in like 10 shots or less.
can't even imagine SS with perks
>every positive review is getting downvoted to hell
>>145735613
Max ammo Commando
M14 Sharpie
This pair will breeze HoE with massive ammo pools, non stop stuns and rapid decaps.
>>145749620
Gunslinger only has a positive damage rating on clots on slashers now.
Oh and legshot is pretty much useless now, have fun taking on scrakes and fleshpounds on anything above hard.
>>145742481
>patch notes explicitly say M79 changed to 1 shot sirens on direct hit
>6 man HoE
>lv25 demo will all dmg perks
>shoot siren in the head with M79
>it just lays on the floor then gets back up
>shoot scrake with RPG point blank
>instant kill
>review scores are back down to 41%
You're powerless to stop it, Tripwire
Cuckmandos wanted to be relevant.... Well here you fucking go.
>>145752372
At this point I don't even care about in-perk fighting. I just want more than 3 out of 8 perks to be playable.
Commando is relevant, but at what cost?
>>145752372
I've mained commando since release I prefer the old commando+no zed resistance
sure I have lots of ammo but it feels like I'm shooting rubber bullets, hipfire is fucked too
by the way, the solution is simply adjusting the coefficients
10% difference for medium resistance, 20% for strong resistance, instead of pants-on-head-retarded ranges like 75% at the moment
watch TWI adjust coefficients in half-a-year
I didn't really play KF1 much but am I correct in remembering its maps were a lot larger than those in 2?
If so, why?
>>145752607
Or just get rid of them and make everything what it was prior to the update.
Balance perks without needing to outright tell certain zeds "okay, you take less damage."
>>145752680
Because this game is designed with teleporting behind corners in mind. The fan made maps in this game are notoriously easy because you can kite forever, unlike in KF1 where you basically couldn't run away from a Scrake or a Fleshpound at all.
>>145752731
I suppose I should have said "SOME of the fan maps" instead of implying all fan made maps are easy. It's the ones that have large open spaces that are piss easy.
>>145752607
Also scale the deltas with difficulty (linearly? fuck knows, or introduce 4 more pointless coefficients into this pointless model).
>>145752731
I'm talking about keeping the bullshit while minimizing the damage to the game. It's clear TW will keep the bullshit in some form.
>>145752890
I suppose since this is TW we're talking about that's a pretty good solution. I was just getting ahead of myself and thinking that it would actually be possible to get rid of a horrible "balance" idea.
>>145749620
>Takes 6 .500 leg shots to knockdown a scrake
>Takes nearly all of the .500 and deagle shots for a FP
There's literally no point to use leg shots.
Gunslinger is just a spamfest of shoot until it's dead.
At least with the decreased HP on HOE it's faster, just not as reliable as with stumbles/knockdowns.
Freefag here, My thoughts after a few games:
Is it just me or does this game feel way more clunky than KF1? I might be remembering it wrong but I feel KF1 was a lot more fluid. My first death was actually because I tried to jump over a railing (on containment I think) that seemed absolutely jumpable. Sadly it had an invisible wall or something over it and I got cucked.
>reload times
God damn, They feel slow to me. Might be to add tension? Might be so people give a fuck about reload time reducing perks?
>weapon handling
god damn, The Assaults feel kinda awful. Hipfire is a disaster First shot is more or less a sniper shot, after that it's a free for all in basically every direction. I also feel like I'm getting less dosh than I did in KF1. Maybe that's because I'm playing on 4 round maps so far? Should I switch to medium or long? What#s the consensus from people who play longer, what mode is preferred?
>the Perks
Playing Commando since KF1 and I must say I'm kinda disappointed. All the talents seem to be rather generic and boring % increases and I honestly say I'm not particularly looking forward to getting the level 10 Skills. Kind of a shame because getting new talents should always be a "fuck yeah, nice!" moment in games like these.
>Boss
Always got the doctor so far, on normal a rather boring fight. with all low levels the boss was far from difficult, just time consuming. the first time around I ended up using up all of my ammo for every weapon and just having to whack him. Honestly got a bit boring to just stand there and hold left click on his back while he tries to attack someone else and actually added to the weapons feeling a bit shit.
>In game microtransactions.
Sad to see in any game.
>>145733692
>free weekend shitter here
We should all be relative low level right? So unless you have a habit of playing on normal difficulty servers it shouldn't be a problem for you should it?
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I do not like what they have done to Hans. I do not like it at all.
>>145753576
>God damn, They feel slow to me. Might be to add tension? Might be so people give a fuck about reload time reducing perks?
Pretty much.
>god damn, The Assaults feel kinda awful.
Ironic considering they're probably the best all-around weapon thanks to this fucking resistance update. They have the least bad modifiers of all weapons.
>I also feel like I'm getting less dosh than I did in KF1.
Maybe, but it used to be much worse. There was an update not too long ago that increased the money you earn by 10% and I personally started drowning in cash even on HoE after that.
Also, because perk discounts are gone, weapons are cheaper now. Off-perking is cheaper than ever. Not to say any weapon is really worth off-perking, but still.
>Should I switch to medium or long?
I personally like medium over long, but it doesn't really matter. Short games are just dumb.
>All the talents seem to be rather generic and boring % increases
Welcome to Tripwire balance, 2016 edition. If you can't make skills viable or at the very least fun, just change them to a percentage boost of your damage or something.
>the first time around I ended up using up all of my ammo for every weapon and just having to whack him
Welcome to Tripwire balance, 2016 edition.
>So unless you have a habit of playing on normal difficulty servers it shouldn't be a problem for you should it?
Because they added a quick game button, you're no longer forced to find a game on your own. Sub-10s joining HoE are a very common thing, and you only have 3 votekicks total.
>>145753576
>We should all be relative low level right? So unless you have a habit of playing on normal difficulty servers it shouldn't be a problem for you should it?
Only they jump straight in hoe and sui without realizing it spawn more and tougher zeds.
>80%
WE'RE SO CLOSE LADS
>>145753796
>you can break his shield!
>90% of the time you can't and the entire team is out of ammo later because you dumped it all in his shield
>Haven't played since gunslinger update
>Good game, but slow development. All it needs is more content, it can only get better from here.
>Hear bitching about newest update
>Literally everything is ruined
How did they fuck this up?
All they needed was to finish the rest of the perks, give them their new weapons, add more maps, and MAYBE add some new Zeds and MAYBE a third boss. That is all they had to do and the game would have been fine.
How do you fuck up this badly?
>>145754727
Tripwire is making the same mistakes, although at a much smaller (but worse) scale, as Nintendo.
They're innovating for innovation's sake.
>most zeds behave the same, so let's give them resistances so that they need "coordination and teamplay" to be killed!
>zeds having the same movement abilities as a player is too boring, I think we should make them teleport so as to increase difficulty in an easy way
>you know, I really think Demolitions would be more fun if he had explosive doors as a base perk
>I think Support is a bit too strong, I think the best way of balancing him would be with headshot falloff
>the store we had in the last game was kinda boring... how about we introduce microtransactions as a fun way of poking all the gamblers out there?
>Firebug is too strong, I think killing trash should be Commando's job, so let's just make Firebug into a crowd control perk
I mean fuck, they might as well give zeds a random chance of spawning with a gun so they can "innovate the zed concept" some more.
reminder
>>145754956
I don't think that's related to nintendo at all
its more like "games in general"
>>145754956
Or just, you know, make a new zed that uses a gun.
But that would require things like modeling and new behavioral scripting. You know, actual work.
All they had to do was not do these fucking resistances, I don't give a shit if it was "to play more tactically" or "make it an RPG element", this isn't KF1 where you had time to play it out and find your target among the hordes, this is KF2 where its fast paced action with dozens of zeds literally running into the barrel of your weapons, you can't take a second to just think what you want to fight because you aren't given that choice most the time, its do or die.
This update is by far the worst the game has ever had.
HOWEVER, looking at Tripwire's track record, the game only gets worse and worse.
I want to say that I don't think the game can get any worse, but I've been proven wrong on that twice now.
So the question we should be asking is: HOW could they make the game worse?
it was like February since I last played, but is it just or is the crossbow kind of weak?
>>145755338
>literally running into the barrel of your weapons
mfw I instantly thought if this
>>145755471
Everything that isn't the Railgun is "kind of weak."
>>145755349
Different characters get different traits.
Obviously the women and people of color get the objectively better traits while the CIS white males don't get anything. Anton actually gets negative traits for being a LITERAL NAZI.
>>145755349
Scrake,with a gun
Have fun kiting now!
>>145755265
I would have said we could go for a demo-like zed, but Husk sort of has that niche covered with the kamakaze and his fireballs. Would be cool to see a zed who does a patty style "one in da pipe" regardless.
>>145755349
I want to fuck that snek
>>145753867
Ah. I constantly forget that people join games way over their level. I never did it in KF1 or Payday2 because I knew even if I'd joing a high difficult run, I'd likely get flattened or just run out of ammo so I'd never join anything above my level. I guess not everyone is like that.
>running OOA on the boss
This is just retarded. Why is he so tanky? I agree that KF1, C4 boss nuking was cheesy as fuck, but even without explosives, if you filled up before the boss you usually didn't run out of ammo like this. And like I said there is barely any difficulty to it, It just feels like pissing against a wall rather than shooting a boss.
The Perk thing is just sad. I mean, 60% knife & backup pistol damage or 150% "stumble power" Who the fuck is thinking "Oh yeah, just 5 more levels to get that"? Nobody. Fucking nobody. Why not make some interesting shit? Since you're a "commando" and it's called Advanced Tactics why not make it something like "friendlies near you do more damage" or take less damage or whatever. Something interactive? How about something like "-bath in their blood- killing zeds that are near friendlies heals them a bit" (these are all bullshit too, I'm tired, I'm just saying random shit that's more interesting than 3% more damage, not shit that's necessarily good, that's their fucking job)
I mean for fucks sake, there are 5 choices, and 3 of them are "get more ammo" 2 of those actually being the FUCKING SAME TALENT with different wording.
>>145755519
You know, since characters have different voices, I could see this being a very real thing.
>nigger runs 20% faster and has 20% more HP
>Ana heals 30% better and has 10% more ammo, because she's a medic or something
>Rea reloads 20% faster and has 10% inherent DR because she's SO COOL AND CAN WEAR A DRESS EVEN DURING THE APOCALYPSE!!
>>145755505
Poor cyst just wants to be put out his misery, why wont you pull the trigger?
>>145755713
Cysts deserve to be bullied.
>>145755589
>Why is he so tanky?
Here, let me share some fun facts with you:
>Hans has 58,900 HP on 6p HoE
>is head, chest core, and backpack take x1.3 damage when hit, but EVERYWHERE else he only takes x0.3 damage
>he's only weak to Firebug weapons and neutral to Explosives
>every other damage type in the game only does at best x0.7 damage or at worst x0.1 (toxic, but most other damage types are at around x0.6)
So under "realistically bad" conditions, Hans has practically 150,000 to 200,000 HP. And keep in mind that if you don't break his shield, he will heal.
>>145755839
Holy shit. What were Tripwire thinking?
>>145755936
They finally heard the pleas of "pls make demo good on bosses" and now he is good, but everyone else except firebat has suffered because of it.
So what do for commando weapons? I usually go:
>buy bullpup asap
>play rounds until SCAR is afforadble
>keep those two and armour/ammo up for the rest of the game.
Decent? Or is it better to skip the bullpup? Or is the AK even worth getting?
>>145756175
only if you really want the little bit extra damage and 1 extra mag at double the price with more recoil.
bullpup is fine.
>>145755839
>We don't want bullet sponge enemies :^)
>>145755839
It just pisses me off. Make him kill players faster and take of two thirds of his health. I literally get bored shooting him because it's just a giant fucking bullet sponge. Just suck my shit up senpai.
>theres no option to for scope detail
I fucking hate tripwire
Okay, I finally read the resistance update
I JUST WANTED TO SHOOT THINGS. WHY ARE WE MAKING THIS COMPLICATED WITH STATS LIKE IT'S SOME SHITTY MOBA. LET ME SHOOT THINGS AND NOT NEED A SPREADSHEET TO KNOW WHAT AND WHERE IS OK TO SHOOT.
GOD.
>>145757260
But 5 people on the forums said they wanted resistances, so naturally we gotta give these 5 people what they want!
>>145757260
This is what bothered me the most. The resistances we had were fine. But for some reason tripwire decided to add like 20 more stupid resistances that made no sense. What was wrong with the ones we had? It they wanted the game to focus on team work maybe do something about the maps so it wont be another episode of mountain pass where everyone just fucks off for themselves.
Necromancer perk when?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4bgsNjbFIE
>KF2 segments at
1:34:50 - 1:37:12
1:45:22 - 1:51:20
1:58:54 - 2:07:34
2:18:08 - 2:18:36
Is there a full version without them cutting in and out from other games, it's only less than 20 minutes of them talking about the basic shit but I don't think they brought up resistances, only "ramping up health on higher difficulties" at 1:49:55 and give them new capabilities.
>>145757993
Battlefield Bad Company 2 has that covered.
>>145758039
I SEND A PESTILENCE A PLAGUE
INTO YOUR FORUM INTO YOUR THREAD
INTO YOUR STREAMS INTO YOUR TWEETS
INTO YOUR CODE INTO YOUR HEAD
UPON YOUR MONEY ON YOUR DOSH
UPON YOUR TESTERS IN THE FIELD
INTO YOUR DREAMS INTO YOUR SLEEP
UNTIL YOU BREAK UNTIL YOU YIELD
I SEND THE SWARM
THE OUTRAGED HORDE
THUS SAITH THE BOARD
What the fuck is up with damage in this game? Takes forever to kill these crawling guys and stealth ladies. And those bloat things take a shitload of head shots to kill.
>>145759362
Just uninstall and never come back. Save yourself.
>>145759362
If you're not joking and really don't know: this is what has been introduced in the latest patch and what everybody is raging about. The only fully playable mode now is versus, that's like where these balance changes came from.
>>145759681
If they don't remove resistances entirely, they should at least limit them to VS since the only official difficulty is Normal.
>free weekend
that means level 0-5 are playing hard and suicidal
fucking end my suffering
>40% recent
>80% overall
Come on, we can do this
>>145760484
>inb4 another mysterious wave of sudden positive reviews just like yesterday
I'm expecting a swarm of shills to happen again now that we're at 40% again
>>145761076
>I don't want KF2 to fail
>But I do want TW to suffer
>One may directly cause the other and vice versa
Whatever happens, it shall be.
>>145761076
This is like breaking Hans' shiellllld, so our reviewing capabilities get exhausted like ammo.Deepest lore.
>buy this early access game they said
>tripwire are not like the other companies they said
fug, it appears I had fallen victim to a clever ruse yet again
Holy shittttt why is gunplay so orgasmic?
>>145762336
it used to be better before everything became a bullet sponge
>>145762336
Because you're a cave sponge
I want to healmeme to medicdom me
>>145762336
Wait until you play it without the shitty resists
You'll be happier than a faggot in jailWho am I kidding
WWAUT - Hiring shills, ignoring the community and more!
>>145752567
>hipfire is fucked too
Why did they ever think making hipfire this bad was a good idea?
>>145762336
The gunplay and detail of it is very nice, but don't let that pretty gameplay belies the quality of said gameplay that goes around it.
The recent balances are far too harsh and really paint an unsatisfying feeling that make you seem like its nothing on first glance, if something like a stalker gets in your face and you happen to be holding a shotgun, the fact that they can just walk through all those pellets like it was air just makes it all feel wasted especially when you can kill a husk so much easier despite looking stronger and beefier.
Remember back when KF2 was first announced? Remember how excited you were? I do.
>that new engine
>guns and shooting looked fantastic
>new monster designs looked neat
>talk of new perk system sounded cool
I fucking bought it in Early Access just because I liked the first game so much. I figured, hey, it was a really simple game, all they had to do was improve the graphics and add some new maps and I would be happy. I wish I could go back in time and talk to my younger self. I would put my hand on his shoulder and say, "Son, you have no idea how bad things can get."
>>145764641
Beta was still ok and only needed a couple of changes to be good. Then they started fucking it up.
LMGs when?
>>145765512
Might they not literally obsolete assault rifles, even if the resistance system gets removed?
>>145766097
Yeha but thats fine
>>145753305
What's the command to show damage breakdown?
>>145766738
It's a mutator part of SomeTestMap
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=643313659
>>145765512
after release. LMGs are mocapped, but they aren't coming with SWAT or MA.
>>145766869
>after release.
I can't wait 3 years anon.
A-Are there any girls here who play? pls respond
>>145767593
Of course, sweetie. Come here.
Hello?
Shhh...Harry Enfield is sleeping
>>145770478
DOSH!
I want voice commands
>>145770869
There are voice commands, they're all just shit and TW won't let us change what they say for everyone else to see like they did before
At what point does a Steam review score become negative instead of mixed?
>>145771027
I'm still shocked that there isn't an official Thanks voice command because the console-style wheel is too small.
>>145772224
Sub 40 I think. It's now been hanging on exactly 40% for a little while today. Wouldn't be surprised if TW is buying more shills to keep it floating just above negative.
>>145772604
What are you talking about? It's not weak. It kills exactly what Tripwire Interactive (TM) wants it to kill. Call your teammates to help you shoot zeds if you want to kill them easily. Learn to use teamwork on the game Killing Floor 2 (R)
>every class has like 3 weapons
wew gross
>>145772604
All classes that only let you carry the T1 weapon as backup to the T4 bug me
MM has me annoyed in this regard, especially since they just changed the RPG so you can have the 79 alongside it
>>145751171
that's because there's nothing positive left :^)
>>145773206
b-b-b-b-but what about the resistances TWI worked so hard on?! surely they're a good feature!
>>145773321
If it was such a good feature, why would TW not tell the people at E3 or the PCGamingShow about it?
Is it supposed to be a surprise?
>>145773321
How hard can you even work on a bunch of number multipliers
Doesss sharpshooter's sniper perk and stability perk stack?
i still cant believe jon gisbon put his wife in the game who does that
>>145773580
Don't see why not
Commando's now got two +50% mag size skills that add up to double the original
>>145772475
does voting on reviews affect scores?
>>145773487
you can edit them in 30 seconds per zed type in goddamn notepad.
If they wanted to, they could push an entirely new resist system out the door today. Shit, I could finish a new system in under an hour, test it on a solo server, and push it from TWI if I worked there, all by 5 PM EST.
>>145774042
Nope. The review being present is all that affects the scores, hence you can literally post gibberish or a fucking period in the review field. There were a fuckload yesterday(from accounts with barely any play time but also BEFORE the free weekend even started, which is pretty suspicious).
>>145767883
You're perty
>>145764641
>10 new perks with tons of weapons
>New enemy variations
>Sleek ass super high speed weapon animation for Zed time gun porn
>Amazing gore effects
>Difficulty modes that enhance enemies in better ways than just more health and damage
...1 year later
>Only new perk is just the two pistol part of Sharpshooter
>Every perk only has 4 weapons
>Shitty microtransaction pay for keys weapon skin bullshit
>A whole TWO new Clots that have AMAZINGLY different walk animations
>Railgun ejects a normal casing out of some random spot
>Parts of enemies explode into slightly more pieces
>Resistances
I believed the hype.
Nep nep?
>>145767883
2thin4me
KF1 is better than KF2 solely on the fact of it having this weapon.
>>145776015
>Harpoon gun
>Good
Seriously?
Buffs never
>>145776687
Support is fine, you just have to aim properly!
t. Yoshiro
>>145776889
>shotguns
>aim
>>145777094
That picture reminds me how little sense the nailgun makes.
Letting you switch from single fire to spread when in the artbook it showed bundles of rubber-banded nails, so how could it separate individual nails on command?
>>145776164
It's fun, nigga.
>>145764169
Wait what happened to hip fire?I assumed my accuracy was suffering because I haven't played for a few months.
Random brainstorm:
During a patty fight, you can break one of his syringes if you attack them directly and they take enough damage, limiting how many times he can run off and heal. If you have something like a shotgun hammering at them thanks to the spread, they can potentially all break at once.
Y/N?
>>145778715
People would start targeting the syringes immediately.
If he starts dealing more damage the more you shoot at them and the closer you get it would make the fight fun, though.
>>145778715
Well the obvious first complaint with this is,
>Making Patty even easier
>>145778350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKnWOvZNSTs
when TWI tried to fix the recoil between online and offline play and ended up making it worse for online.
>>145757576
To be fair those 5 people were the only ones not to get banned.
I understand tripwire wants to fight camping but because of it the welding system has gone to complete shit.
Why not instead just keep it how it was in KF1 so that the doors don't have health and they respawn each wave, and make it so that anytime a bigger enemy comes up to a locked door they immediately lose their shit, rage, break the door in one hit and then stay enraged at the team without any break in between. It would make teams think twice about relying so much on a weld while making welds somewhat relevant again to keep up until the big zeds arrive. Wouldn't that be a better alternative to what we have now?
>>145779837
>wants to fight camping
>makes kiting impossible
>go back to KF
>choose random server
>its a modified server
>300 weapons
holy shit
>>145779837
>>145780070
>wants to fight camping
>adds Prison
>>145780447
>play any KF server
>more than 9 maps
how can KF2 even compete
so i was looking at the new character in the sdk
>>145781207
Okay?
>>145781207
can i take the dress off??
>>145781393
like, she has legs and an ass under there. I thought there would be nothing underneath
>>145781393
crack it open in blender and find out fám
>>145781587
and there is a creepy grey version in there too. like unfinished or something?
>>145781641
how do you do that?
>>145781393
Can you see if they modeled a pussy?
>>145781587
TW know their priorities
>>145781960
Extract the 3D mesh with Umodel and import it.
>>145781804
that's just the base skeletal model with no MIC or textures applied to it.
>>145781393
>>145781587
Nice, too bad the dress completely hides this.
>>145782236
its like a specific extra texture
>>145782915
those are applied to a MIC, which compiles the different layers of the texture and can be applied to a model. It probably has a conditional on which diffuse it uses depending on the outfit.
>New Female character
Noice
>She wears heels and a fucking dress
Didn't TripeWire specifically go on a rant about how males go into battle fully clothed and armored but women wear silly outfits for men to gawk at them? Seems pretty hypocritical.
>>145781393
it would be extremely lewd
>>145784352
You're a horny guy
>9,875 ingame
i fucking hate john gibson
Newfag here, looking at the skill trees:
>lvl 5: Get a bit more serious: Increase Commando weapon magazine capacities by 50%.
>lvl 20: Need more bullets? Get 50% more rounds in your mags with Commando weapons.
am I retarded or is that EXACTLY the same Skill with slightly different wording? I mean lvl 15 has another ammo talent but this one works slightly different. more mags rather than more ammo in the mags.
But even if not, how fucked up in the head do you have to be to think "yeah let's make a talent tree based video game and just a third of one classes Skills be more ammo upgrades" the fuck? Why not piercing ammo? Why not magic ammo that hits another nearby zed for 50% of the the damage after hitting the first? why not a random chance to gain ammunition? why not "intimidation" firing Commando weapons has a chance to make nearby (the closer the higher the chance) enemies flinch and not attack for a bit (for when some sneak up on you), Why not have something like "sniper support" where you have a low chance when hitting something that a high damage sniper bullet will fly in from somewhere off screen to do high damage to the target, why not "sprint and reload", why not ANYTHING that is fun. This is just fucking sad of a talent tree.
>M14 doesn't have a fucking workshop MAT so I can't do anything with it
>>145787450
Congratulations, you put more thought into that than Tripwire ever did.
>>145787450
Welcome to Tripwire's KF2. The skill trees have been mostly a mess since the closed beta, even after many overhauls.
>>145787676
>doesn't have a wear mask either
>doesn't have any paint areas
Yeah I guess I'll do the M14 later, fuck this.
>>145781207
>>145781393
>>145781587
>>145781804
Would it be possible to make a mod that can replace Stalkers with Rea?
>>145787854
>>145787876
I mean.. I'm a bit of a blizzfag here, but I remember at some point they said that when you're leveling that you should look forward to gaining your next row of talents. It should be a "hype" moment. Something you look forward too basically since you got the last row. When I look at the skills in KF2, I'm not sure if I'm just jaded or something but I don't find myself looking forward to them. I find myself thinking. "well this is a shit choice but this one is slightly less shit"
>>145787450
because TWI are uninspired lazy retards who can't think of anything outside the most basic shit
>>145788434
but THE SAME FUCKING TALENT twice in a 10 talent skill tree.
That's just taking the fucking piss isn't it?
>>145788265
Someone hasn't experienced the joy of going from level 10 to 15 as medic.
>>145788434
Why the fuck can't one of commando's skills be "decapitated zeds die instantly"? Shit would be fucking nice for gorefasts.
>all this lowlvl trash in sui and HoE games
>>145789979
TWI feeds on suffering of others.
>>145787450
>chance
>chance
>chance
fuck off, i don't want to rely on RNG
>>145787903
>doesn't have a wear mask either
what do you mean? this is the one in the SDK file
>>145790370
This, if you're going to give him something it better be a guaranteed ability.
RNG only worked well for zed shrapnel and now it's trash.
What's a good spot to camp at solo in Hostile Grounds?
>>145790370
>>145790754
Nigga I'm not saying "do these talents they are the best" I'm just spitballing random shit that comes to my mind. Obviously you can go in another direction with it, whatever you want, I'm just saying the current talents are shit tier and could easily be improved.
>>145790803
Just kite outside, the spawn points aren't that close to the map, so you won't be fucked by some zeds just jumping out of nowhere like on Containment Station.
>>145747147
>Nothing is good at the moment
not true
m14, scar, and medrifle are good
the other 31 weapons, though, yeah they're shit
(shit being an improvement in the case of the medsmg)
>>145788568
>>145787450
40rd scar and 60rd ak mags are their appeasement to the LMG-wanting crowd
>>145772604
>>145772884
They're really dead set on having the T1 - T4 system, personally I don't like it because I find myself buying the same exact 2-3 weapons every single match with no reason to try something different
>>145783617
yep
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=102823&page=2
>I am President of Tripwire. The objectification of women in video games is one of the dark marks on the industry as a whole. So many video games with men fully clothed wearing suits of armor and then the women go out to do battle half naked - it's ridiculous.
>>145792627
Guess we need to make a comparison image with the Chivalry character vs. Rae with her skirt flipped up and her big fat ass hanging out and this quote sitting at the bottom.
>>145792519
the 4 tier system is an okay foundation, the failing of it is because they aren't building anything on top of it, no sidegrades for most perks yet.
Just did couple succesful HoE runs with some friends and I must say Zerker is not totally thrash. He's not as good as he used to, can't kill big guys, but can still hold doorways while others help him kill zeds. Zwei is better in killing things faster now, but Pulv can stumble SC/FP so you can hold them longer before getting raped by them. It's better to just use the M14 to kill them rather than go melee, or just concentrate on killing any other zeds who are nearby while Sharps deal will the big guys. I think one Berzerker to hold that one spot from where most zeds are coming is not a bad idea, especially on corridors map like Containment Station.
>server says the map is on wave 2
>join
>they're on wave 3
every
single
time
>>145790621
Huh? My SDK doesn't have it. Do you need to update it or something?
In other news
>check the L85A2
>the fucking bullet textures are misplaced and instead of being gold there's a part underneath the scope that uses that texture and the bullets are colored gray
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80W1nmX_xbQ
>>145793170
I wonder if they'll ever add sidegrades, they're taking their sweet time adding content as it is
I want the game to be challenging again.
>>145793607
As long as it's not the Zwei "sidegrade" all over again
What weapons should I aim for as a commando?
>>145794349
M14, deagles, medpistol.
Then switch to SS
>>145794349
scar and ak12/bullpup is a solid late wave loadout, leaving you some room to pack med pistol, deagle or something else light weight.
>>145794079
>• Fixed an issue where Zed would get confused about who to target (and constantly switching targets) leading to them not attacking
>zerkwalling is still viablenice skins
>>145794494
>Using handguns other than the med pistol
Reminder
>1.01x --Cyst
>1.01x --Clot
>1.01x --Slasher
>0.3x --Bloat (0.6x 9mm)
>0.75x --Crawler (1x 9mm)
>0.75x --Gorefast (1x 9mm, 0.9x Rem1858)
>0.75x --Stalker
>0.85x --Husk (1x 9mm, 1x Rem1858)
>0.7x --Siren (1x 9mm, 1x Rem1858)
>0.8x --Scrake
>0.75x --Fleshpound
>0.6x --Hans Volter
>0.5x --Patriarch
>>145793509
it should already be updated and under your texture division. If you have the game files you can split it off the .upk and import them to the MIC if you want
>perk passives that are +1 /5 lvl
Why? To make leveling up even shittier? Why not make it 0.2 EVERY level so that you gain a little bit whenever you level up? It has the same effect in the end. Only that you don't think "oh nice, I get nothing from 1-4 6-9 11-14" and so on. what the fuck are they thinking? Who is in charge of this?
>>145794780
The fleshpound one is a boost, strangely enough. 50% more damage than they did before.
>>145795065
Well fix it faggot!
>>145794920
>Firebug gets one that gives increased starting ammo
>also gets a skill at level 5 that renders it obsolete
>>145792918
We need a female Russian military otaku qt that has bants with Anton
>>145795154
I'm busy working on the next game mode, Zed vs Zed.
It's like VS Survival, but it's Hans vs Pat, each boss player gets 5 additional zedmates.
Last one standing wins!
>>145795589
Honestly that sounds like something that might be fun for a match or twounlike Versus
>>145795692
How is versus that bad, it´s supposed to be for fun not competitive counter-strike e sports.
>>145793419
"can still hold doorways"
yes, being a literal door is so fun and thrilling and enjoyable to play with
>>145792918
>with her skirt flipped up and her big fat ass hanging out
can't see that ingame, the exaggeration isn't needed
the dress as-is is ridiculous enough
>>145795589
dont give them any more ideas
>>145796389
I'm tempted to put this in the ArtWork section
>>145794349
in the current version, 1036, SCAR+M14
if they later unfuck the resistances and gorefast headhealth, SCAR+AK
>>145794079
>I want the game to be challenging again.
Apparently not enough to venture out of that zerkwall.
>>145795692
>>145796407
It'd be more balanced than VS is and it wouldn't affect PvE, I bet it wouldn't even be that hard to do for TW since they already did all the hard work of making all the zeds playable, they just need to finish Hans' moves.
>>145796549
Do it and post results anon, we´ll support you
>>145796549
maker of the image here
go for it senpai
>>145796723
M14? I don't think I have seen an M14 on the commando weapons? Did I miss something?
>>145797250
it's a sharpshooter weapon
yet it's the best thing for a commando to carry alongside his SCAR
>>145797027
>>145797065
>>145797247
Well, it's done. Wanted to clean it up a bit but oh well.
>>145797250
It´s not a commando weapon
>>145797505
>>145797526
Aaah! and I didn't find it on the Wiki because there is no page for the Sharpshooter yet! Top stuff there! Well, you have more experience than me, but is it really worth going of perk with a weapon? Won't I strongly gimp my leveling?
KILO
>>145797840
>you will never hold kilo or xenos down by the throat as you have your way with them
>>145797801
>but is it really worth going of perk with a weapon
I think so, the resistances system encourages different weapons for different zeds. And the SCAR has enough ammo that you can mostly focus on using that.
>Won't I strongly gimp my leveling?
you'll get full sharpshooter xp for zeds you kill with the M14 and full commando xp for zeds you kill with the SCAR
>>145797801
zerk with offperk m14 is pretty fantastic, can stun scrakes reliably on his ow (remdering emp useless) as well as kill crawlers on 1 body shot, decap most trash in 1 shot, stun sirens, husks etc
>>145794309
Just add the StG already, Anton has a line for it
Playing commando here. Do you guys find yourself using aim down sights much? Because I kinda don't. Unless something is REALLY far away, I find myself hipfiring in very short bursts. It seems perfectly accurate as long as you don't fire more than 2 shots. then the bullets for some reason come out at a 90° angle out of your barrel. I find ADS more of a hindrance than anything most of the case.
Tripwire could learn a lot from watching free weekenders, they don't have a single clue about resistances so they'll shoot anything with any gun and they won't have a clue that they're doing things 'wrong'. Then again people who've been playing this game for months and months are doin things 'wrong' too because the entire system is convoluted as fuck and unrealistic given the fast paced nature of the game.
>>145798783
You can also carry an RPG with Pulv. Even with sharpies, FP's are even more of a joke and you can finish a SC with an RPG.
>>145799434
I usually hipfire as much as possible. Though if there is a lot of trash flooding in or really need to nail a string of shots I tend to ADS, to pop heads faster and with more precision. Using the sights only becomes a problem if a demo is blowing his load right next to you and shakes you all over the place.
>>145799016
Its not like TWI has a full model, animation set and 3D sound system already made for it from another UE3 game or anything
Fuck sprinting, I want my knife out walking back.
>>145749905
Source to back this up?
Freefag here. I posted a couple of times here now about shit I found annoying or just plain god damn weird, like the shitty and dublicate skills or bulletspongy bosses or the "get shit only every 5 levels".
So the game has been in early access for over a year now. (I vaguely remember them saying that they will have just a really short EA period, don't quote me on that) and my question is: HOW CAN THERE STILL BE SUCH OBVIOUS FLAWS? Fucking hell. after playing the game for 3 hours I had a laundry list of shit that could be improved. And I'm not talking about difficult shit like enemy AI or the fact that you can't jump higher than Stephen Hawking. Simple shit, like coming up with 10 actually fun skills for the perks. Hell, like I mentioned before, the Commando has a fucking duplicate in his skill tree.
Should I maybe make a post over there? Do they check the steam forums or do I need to register for their shitty website?
>>145799434
As a main, almost always ads, hipfire when i'm picking off lone crawlers and clots.
>>145781393
>not stripped
ohhhh boy.
>be newfag
>join a medium length game
>4 of my teammates are level 0
awww comon dudes. At least do the fucking tutorial for that one free level, adjust your mouseaim and whatnot. Don't just go "fuck it, lets jump into matchmakan"
>>145800627
>maining a perk
or
>doing the tutorial with every perk
why even bother
>>145800469
most of the skill trees have been reworked a couple times
the commando dual mag cap skills is recent and fully intentional
>>145800469
>Should I maybe make a post over there?
Sure, why not?
>Do they check the steam forums or do I need to register for their shitty website?
They do check the steam forum and other places, though steam forum is usually cancer and their own forum is a hugbox.
Tripwire has a weird way of collecting feedback and dealing with it, to say it nicely. Telling them about issues and possible improvements is important but with all that happend in early access so far you get the impression that it is a pointless endeavor, since they rather look at their graph bars instead of good solutions from their community.
I don't want to discourage you but I hope you enjoy talking to brick walls, while people will mock your views because tripwire can't do no wrong.
what happened in the resistance update
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=118307
live update just now
trash resistances reduced
>>145801494
all zeds got arbitary resistances to certain weapons to "force teamwork" that way.
For example, stalkers take only a quarter of the usual shotgun damage, making them survive 2-4 body shots (depending on aim/spread) instead of killing them with one solid blast.shooting them in the head still does the trick though, but good luck with that at close range when they flip around like fucking naruto
is there a new powerlevel map
THE FUCK IS UP WITH PEOPLE AND NOT HEALING? How the fuck are people not topping of? Are they retarded? Are they Bots? The fuck is going on?
It's easy: if health is less than 100 and heal is ready PRESS IT YOU FUCKWIT. the cooldown is super short. I see people with 60% at the trader and NOBODY bothering to pop him a quick heal.
>at endboss
>he begins to spray bullets
>this guys reaction is to just stand in it and shoot back (hey maybe the boss dies first?)
>he dies
>2 others die the same way the next two times he begins to spray
HOW CAN YOU BE SO FUCKING RETARDED? HOW DO THESE PEOPLE FUNCTION? Did I just play with a group of Polygon reviewers? THE FUCK IS GOING ON?
So agent Wilkes and Security Officer Thorn have already been made playable 2 years ago in the ps4 reveal trailer. Why haven't they released them yet or any other characters locked up?
>>145803697
So you can buy them later
>>145803810
I can actually see this being real, more paytoplay characters.....
>>145803697
They said a lot of stuff was scrapped from that build
Until they introduce the Classic Characters Pack for $7.99
give it to me straight, guys: S.T.A.L.K.E.R or KF2?
>>145804836
STALKER all the way
>slinger's reu resets to 6 10% stacks if you miss
>sharp's reu reset to 3 5% stacks if you miss
?
>>145804836
>Comparing a great game that's basically become a cult game inside PC gaming, to a cashgrab like KF2
Disgusting.
>>145805056
>finished good game
>or not finished game
gee what a fucking mystery
>>145804836
This is /kfg/, why the fuck would we recommend KF2 over Stalker?
>>145782915
>>145783073
>>145781804
It's red blood during zed time
>>145800209
If they want it on the same level as the other gun models they may need to redo those animations at the super high framerate for zed time.Expect it around 2020 at the earliest.
>>145805383
>2020
That's a bit optimistic anon
>>145805056
>>145805208
>>145805226
>>145805293
welp, on my way to play STALKER then, guys. see you next patch, i guess.
>>145800469
>I vaguely remember them saying that they will have just a really short EA period, don't quote me on that
They said the game would be out of Early Access by the end of 2015.
>>145805642
>We'll finish the game by 2015 guys! PS4 version included!
>The game won't be casualized don't worry
>We'll take player feedback very seriously
>We're gun nuts
>>145805914
Oh, thanks for setting me straight Yoshiro!
>>145805143
The stacks are 17% each, capping at 68% at 4 stacks.
>>145806047
>mfw my free-weekender friend tried to weld a door today and almost fucking died because it was fucking impossible for him to weld it before the zeds opened it again
>all because "people could misclick from welder to healing syringe"
>>145806821
Oh, they changed it?
Still, why 3 stacks for sharpshooter?
>>145805642
I might remember it wrong but I think in Totalbiscuits video they said that they were planning to make the EA very very short. Now it's over a year and there is still so much shit thats... well shit.
>>145803535
>THE FUCK IS GOING ON?
free weekend
and if they played solo to learn a bit how to play, solo teaches you that bosses' bullets don't matter
>>145805143
>trusting ingame descriptions written by tripwire
ishygddt
>Zeds resist melee
>Trash doesn't resist class knives
>The Lawnmower Blade is therefore more powerful than the Crovel
...I guess it's a free 100 Dosh for the Zerker...
>>145800407
his facebook
>>145749905
>literally a cuck
like pottery
>>145801746
So are the resistances still retarded after the hotfix? I'm on the fence on whether I should reinstall.
>>145809857
Its still retarded and we can only pray with all of our remaining hope that tripwire admits they're acting fucking retarded and remove this system
>>145801746
thank the good lord i can actually kill shit as firebug
>>145801746
>Clots/Cysts/Slashers: Reduced all damage resistances by .25, to a maximum of 1.00.
>Crawlers: Reduced all damage resistances by .25, to a maximum of 1.00.
>Stalkers: Reduced all damage resistances by .25, to a maximum of 1.00.
>Gorefasts: Reduced all damage resistances by .25, to a maximum of 1.00.
Well it's an improvement.
But it's not hard to improve on garbage.
Hopefully it won't stop here.
>>145810478
Yeah but mid tiers like Stalkers and Sirens are still retardedly tanky.
And lord knows that the Ai Conductor loves spamming Sirens.
>>145810478
>instead of actually being mature, reasonable adults and admitting their mistake they're going to slowly "hotfix" the resistances until the game is exactly the same as it was before the update
It's something at least. I can only hope.
>>145810627
Tell me about it.
But look on the bright side partners, at least changes are actually happening. Looks like those sales numbers are having some influence. :^)
>>145810749
Yeah, I'm guessing they figured that "leaving the community to stew on it" stopped being the plan after they realised the community was just going to bombard the review section and grief the Free Weekenders.
Oh, and the fact that their shitty new resist system was meant to increase team diversity but ended up turning every match into 5 SS and 1 Medic.
it's better but there's still more to be done
stalkers still have a chance of tanking a shotgun shell if any of the pellets miss but die instantly to most assault rifles
crawlers still take like 10 caulk ammo to disperse
scrakes still take less than 1/3rd of the damage they used to from flames despite being basically immune as it was
>KF2 is finally in the Top 25 Sellers
>But nowhere near close to Top 10 Sellers
>With a Free Weekend
>With a 30% discount
You see that TW? This is what happens.
You can ignore reality as much as you like.
But you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
nothing will ever be the same again
>>145810074
>thank the good lord i can actually kill shit as firebug
Just yesterday some retard was trying to tell me that Firebug wasn't meant to get kills anymore, he was meant to """incapp""" Zeds for other people to get kills.
I am quite relieved to know that his worthless advice to others is now redundant.Thanks for joining in on the fun everyone.
>>145811537
>KF2 is finally in the Top 25 Sellers
It's good enough for them
>>145811912
>all those fucking cretins defending resistance as a team work disable mechanic on the forums
All this has done to 6 man HoE games is everyone grabbing the m14 and beheading FPs in seconds.
Zero team play required
All thanks to the new system
Thank god you can finally knife thrash again.
>>145811912
lol he can't even incap zeds reliably
if zeds crisped up & panicked like they did in kf1, if shrapnel had a 50% chance to proc, had more radius & knockdown power then maybe.
>>145812774
>thrash
>using a threatening word to label the category of least threatening zeds
>>145813240
You misunderstand
He means you can now thrash the knife around by holding m1
>40% recent reviews positive
>80% overall reviews positive
We're close lads
Just downloaded that Allahu Akbar Husk from OP, good one.
If only someone modded part of this as a dying audio play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KolfEhV-KiA
>>145813441
that Mostly Negative is so close I can taste it
>>145805383
I'm sure you're right, they'd redo it entirely.
but when I ported a RO2 gun and anims over, it honestly looked fine, even in zed time. something about how .psa animation frames are stitched together made it remain smooth. if they'd just add a few easy animations (basically just the gun rotation/inspection), scale the model up to KF2 size, and get rid of the old attached arm on the skeleton they'd have quick content to make the players happy.
>>145812736
Good lord the m14 is so fucking broken, just let me carry two instead of the xbow.
>>145814842
I'll do it sometime next week when I'm back at my computer. I still have to fix the Big Guy 4 U death sounds too, they fucked up the old structure for those packages
>>145801746
trash still feel tanky
how long until they just scrap this garbage update altogether? The game feels like a mess
>>145815289
I would love that. Cheers mate.
who's this shithead and why do i see him shilling in l i t e r a l l y every single post on the TWI forums
>railgun stuns either bosses on headshot with the perk
Good god.
Damn Commando is so good now. He and Sharp can hold any corridor together.
>>145809953
it's dialed down, and the biggest complaints (crawlers and stalkers) are no where near as bad
still imperfect, but it's a marked improvement
>>145815156
>quick content
>Tripwire
But yeah, it's nice to imagine this game is being developed by someone that cares.
>>145813441
>all the top steam user reviews are furries
just cant make this up
I think Zerker could be fixed by leaving it as is and introducing a passive 10% speed and 25% health on top of what it already has currently.
This way, rather than being moderately tanky or quite quick, you get to be very tanky and a bit quick or moderately tanky and extremely quick
Before, zerker 175 health and 25% speed, and I think that 175% health+10%speed and 125% health+35% speed would be a better choice, as Zerker has become a bit underpowered now. That, and making parrying as effective as it used to be - it's one of the main attractions of the perk.
>>145815481
I don't go on the TWI forums because I don't start unwinnable fights.
But I'm guessing he was one of this prancing fairies going "WELL OUR GODS HAVE DELIVERED IT NOW SO TOO BAD. PUT UP WITH IT YOU INFERIOR FANS, UNLIKE ME THE TRUE FAN."
Now he's upset that TW have "Caved to the HATERS" so he's trying to be clever.
Look at his post, you should be able to spot what he's up to immediately:
>TW have been forced, pushed and rushed into making changes because of the HATERS and manchildren in the community holding a gun to their head! You'll see! These changes will roll out but people will still complain which is what I actually want so I can say AH HA I KNEW THE HATERS WOULDN'T STOP COMPLAINING, THE CHANGES HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, I'M RIGHT YOU'LL SEE.
Is basically what he's trying to imply.
why does a round start with 3 people? Why is this game so shit? KF1 was god tier.
>>145816103
Zerker should be rolled back and have a taunt perk added so he can draw aggro. His whole purpose is to block for the team.
>>145816103
this is a good idea but surely tw won't do it
>>145816452
>why does a round start with 3 people?
what
so does this resistance thing make the medic smg good now?
>>145816103
This seems fair, doesn't leave you completely shot in the leg in speed if you want to soak in the damage or make you squishy if you want to zip about like you're advertising MA.
>>145816452
That's actually one of the few improvements of KF2. KF1 sucks when you are on a server and you need 5/6 people to ready up (if I'm correct) so the game can start. Otherwise, have fun waiting forever for permanent AFKs to ready up.
>>145803535
>Play Medic
>Darting mother fucker left and right
>Trader phase
>I have a light scratch
>We're all at the trader
>Spam "I need healing" while jumping in place
>No one heals me
I just want to give you free money for fucks sake.
>>145816537
>matchmaking
>got put into a running game on the boss wave,
>next game starts
>game begins we're only 3 people. Me, a level 1 and a level 0.
>think "meh, it's fine, people will drop in
>boss wave
>still only 3 people
fuck this shit.
>>145816732
Not if you stay as a 3 man for the entire game.
>>145816103
How to fix Zerk
+2 HP/level
+2% moves peed/5 level
+2% attack speed/5 level
>>145816991
Just means no one else joined
>>145815481
He also talks like a faggot.
>fathom
>So I reckon it may be worth asking ourselves why that is.
>I'll be seeing how it plays very shortly
>Exclamation point in every other sentence
Jesus christ, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy seriously had some minor Asperger's with that manner of speaking. It just feels so out of place.
>>145816834
"haha look at the funny medic jumping up and down while saying silly phrases"
>>145816991
>Not if you stay as a 3 man for the entire game.
This happened in KF1 too. It's not guaranteed people will join a server, much like it happens in any other multiplayer game ever. Take off those nostalgia glasses. I know it's cool to hate on KF2, and I do it too, but you are going overboard with this.
im assuming this is an idea that a lot of people have already had, but i'd like to see cross-perk weapons
For example, the medic assault rifle, in the hands of a skilled commando, will have bonuses to mag size and damage, but have comparatively weaker medic darts than otherwise. It would still be a valuable choice for a bit of extra healing
The trench gun, in the hands of a support, would have higher penetration and damage, but weaker fire and no napalm or shrapnel effect, which it would get from a firebug
another example would be a potential m4+grenade launcher getting perk bonuses to it's grenades if used by a demo, or it's bullets if used by a commando.
The idea would be to diversify the potential weapons a perk could use and still retain their perk benefits.(beyond the T1 in the first wave, maybe a T2 in the second or third wave and a T4 with maybe a T3 as backup for all of the waves after)
>>145817015
so the same thing but with +25 health and +10% attack speed?
i think the zerker gets plenty of attack speed from the perks that are already in effect iirc
Any more would be a bit excessive
>>145816676
My friend why are you buying that shit when you can get a M14?
>>145798141
Where is Kilo and xenos from and why does everyone want to have their way with them?I don't into anime often
>>145817430
The M4 (w/ M203) from KF1 was a neat idea, and bringing it back would be cool, especially with more options.
Call me a TF2fag, but I want the Firebug to have an on-perk Fire Axe.
Remember the Alamo
>PvP Husk leaves now fire on the ground where it hits knocking back players and damaging them
>Wait till a Freeweekender is near a corner
>Shoot the ground where he stands
>He gets bumped into the corner and can't get out because of the flames
>Ragequits
>Rinse and repeat
>>145818347
>medic
>AK
>>145818451
You fucker, you almost make me want to play versus.
I want healslut to dominate me and make me his experimental toy
>>145819904
Just ask bro
>30min running around trying to kill Hans
I miss stacking pipebombs and just moving on to the next map
>WAVE INCOMING
>go demo, level 25
>choose increased reload speed, increased capacity, increased sash radius, increased incap abilities & reload in real speed during zed time
>use m79
>just fucking spam everywhere, every chance you get
>things either die instantly or get knocked into the air while you reload and explode them again before they can get back up
only good thing about this update
>>145821412
Bosses are fucking unbearable right now.
>55 consecutive railgun headshots for 6man sui hans as a level 12 sharp
>that's assuming he doesn't heal, and ignoring his shield phase
I have no idea how you guys do HoE.
>>145822267
I meant to add that patty randomly regains health at times... because fuck your that's why.
>matchmaking puts me in games with ping at 240
bravo
>>145821412
>15 player server on suicidal
>custom map like the biotics lab from KF1
>in tight corridors Hans and Patty along with hordes of FPs rape almost everyone
>spend twenty minutes watching three survivors kite them around the map , plinking away whenever they get the chance
>>145822035
no one said to stop walking you tosser, back to it
>>145822267
six people to fight the 6manhealth enemies, and as many extra guns as can be afforded
This may be one of the worst updates I have ever seen. It seriously through and through garbage that actively makes the game unfun.
>>145817430
The bonus attack speed from perk is still shit compared to pre-rework Zerk
>>145822267
>>145822578
Bosses shouldn't be taking this long.
Jesus on a stick zed teleporting is so fucking horrible holy shit.
>hostile grounds
>there is ALWAYS a siren in the underground-to-surface stairs
>farmhouse
>bloats mysteriously materialise in the doorways when you enter/leave the building
Don't they play their own fucking game?
>>145823082
>80 minutes for a medium length Suicidal game
What the fuck
>>145823082
hello darkness my old friend
>>145823082
>>145823536
what the fuck are you guys doing
>>145823498
honestly i've never noticed it being a problem before, for me.
>>145823687
>what the fuck are you guys doing
having shit teammates who die because I can't heal them fast enough
being targeted by Hans because he wants my medic boypussy
having an extremely persistent zerk teammate who spends literally 40 minutes all by himself kiting Hans around, hitting him 3-4 times by timing his attacks after he opens a door that gives him a chance to knock him down once a minute
>>145822395
I think it's an effect from him hitting people with the chest parasite.
So the newest resistance patch is purely to placate everyone and this patch is going to be touted around as an example that TWI listens to anyone ever?
>>145823857
Is railgun medic the best boss miter right now?
>fast
>better self heals
>still good damage provided someone calls out ammo
release: 4 perks
incinerate/detonate: 2 perks
gunslinger: 1 perk
revenge of the zed: 1/2 of a perk
bullseye: the rest of the perk
who's ready for the next update, releasing with 1/4 of a perk!
>>145823082
>>145823536
Don't all fucking die, you idiots. I just did HoE hans in 5-7 minutes with three players under 20.
>>145823687
I don't even know
Everyone was on point just Hans was being a bitch
Still lost
>Its not fair for you guys, you didn't make a bad change.... hoe its supose to be really hard, before 1035 we achive victory most of the times, the only time were we enjoyed the game was when big zeds appeard.
At first i was like them with zeds teleport, but i tried to improve and had a great fun dealing with it, everybody hates teleport but that doesn't mean you should remove it. On league of legends everybody hates tryndamere but they don't remove it, or kill the champion, you guys got an unfair hate.
At least leave the bloat strong....
>>145824239
BECAUSE A VISION SOFTLY CREEPING
LEFT ITS SEEDS WHILE I WAS SLEEPING
>>145819089
>Change sides
>Level 25 Medic
>Shitters from my team die almost instantly
>Thanks to them being lvl 0 human zeds don't have that much hp
>Kill trash zeds with burst from AR
>Snipe Husks and Sirens with M14
>Stun Scrake, kill him, the guy ragequits after "why the fuck I can't move???"
>Fleshpound and Scrakes attack simultaneously
>Zed time kicks in
>Sedate them both
>Kill them quickly with M14 headshots
>Boss round
>Told everyone to click the shotgun shell icon and buy AA12 gun
>They did
>He used all his heals in a less than a minute
>Shitters die before we can finish him
>Kite in circles closing doors on him and shooting from time to time, while he takes damage from not attacking me
>So many people rage and call this game absolute shit
>We may get few negative reviews thanks to my work
>>145824327
>everybody hates teleport but that doesn't mean you should remove it
>had great fun dealing with teleport
>>145824145
>Taking ammo boxes for just one railgun shot
>>145824327
Go back to your basement Yoshiro
>>145824913
Wait, you get two rockets but one railgun round?
Why?
>>145822035
>>145822741
this bug annoys the FUCK out of me
>>145823536
>99:20
>>145825128
Because Tripwire still believes the M99 was properly balanced.
>>145824327
>playing sui as a two man squad with a free-we friend
>if I look fast enough when we kite I can see the zeds spawn ten meters ahead of us in plain sight
Both teleporting and conductor spawns need to be taken down two or three notches.
They need to increase how long it takes to deactivate zeds by 10-20 seconds so they get los on you again and keep approaching instead of materialising around every corner you turn and put a larger minimum radius on how close zeds can spawn, because this is fucking ridiculous.
>>145824510
I used to get votekicked whenever I kited Patty to death. I guess these scrubs didn't know how.
>>145824145
if we're talking long term ammo box scavenging, aa12 is definitely still king
>>145825962
I swear to god I had a whole swarm of zeds spawned right next to me when I was holding out near a door, I've never felt so robbed in my life, there was literally nothing I could have done to see that coming. I don't understand why after all this time we still have teleporting zeds, what is the point of that mechanic? It's bad enough that most zeds are always on your heels, why do they need to make it so that the ones who lag behind magically end up in front of you as well? I just don't understand that tripwire is doing with this game.
https://youtu.be/pcXgOxocusg?t=3m57s
JUST
>>145826935
I think it's the way that Tripwire want people to play the game. They want the players to form a tight group and then move throughout the map, never standing and holding a single position. If people actually played like that I imagine it would be very easy without teleporting zeds.
>>145827132
I forgot how much better things looked without the glowing unparriable attacks
>>145827132
He could give Todd some lying classes.
>>145827132
>that hype
>those comments
>that early footage
This is so sad. I really liked this game, it had so much potential god dammit
How come that on 4 rounds I've won pretty much always but on 7 rounds most of my groups fucking fail? What's going on here?
>>145815481
>>145817158
4k hours KF1 douchebag here, that's why I don't post on TWI forums anymore. It's all about perk speculating fags (thank god, they shut up after Sharp release) and petty fanboyism at its finest.
>>145824510
Yes!
>>145825456
M99 was a piece of___balanced weapon. Cost increase only served to keep away the peoplewho can't use certain exploits.
>>145825962
If they ever wanna balance the teleport, it should be around at least 10 seconds cooldown. As I know 5 second period is also their default respawn delay. Increasing the teleporter time would reduce the chances of getting a combinated attack from front, and reduce the after effects of a possible motion sickness.
>larger minimum radius
There was no such thing in KF1, I doubt it would be in KF2 either. You just have to have the ability of reading the marks and the map itself so act cautiously and scale your killing rate accordingly. However, I doubt KF2 had a such thing in its gameplay as everything looks like a decoration to me rather than distinctive marks about your survival.
>>145828793
>certain exploits
People who sit in the trader dropping flare pistols are fags.
>>145828793
>4k hours KF1 douchebag here
Can you PLEASE stop doing this? Just put on a tripcode if you're that desperate for attention.
Is the secret to Firebug still tap firing at feet?
Is there any time that isn't a worthwhile tactic?
>>145824190what about MA's katana?
>>145830000
The secret to Firebug is to play Sharpshooter instead because the new resistances shit all over FB.
>>145829346
It's a PvE game man and it's like 7 years old. I see no problem.
>>145829392
I like debating about KF1 but okay. From this time on, either I'll use tripcode so you can block or I'll reveal nothing at all.
>>145830000
the secret to firebug is to use range + flamethrower and carry the m14 ebr around to deal with scrakes
MWG = shit post update and you can't offperk with it
Flamer = shit post update but at least it can kill things better than the caulk and you can carry something else with it
new leaked martial artist details (official)
Knife - Fists
Tier1 - Katana
Tier1.5 - Dual Katanas (Starting weapon)
Tier2 - Triple Katana
Tier3 - Chainsickle
Tier4 - Quadtana
official
>>145831287
Where are the explosive tonfas?
>>145831330
grenades that shoot out small katanas
>>145831330
that's his grenade
passives
+1% movement speed per level
+1% quicker attack speed per level
cannot be grabbed by clots
level 5 skills
meditation - deal 3x damage on your next melee strike after being stationary for 2 seconds
raging storm - gain an additional 25% movement speed when melee is drawn
all that leaked
(official)
>>145831653
>meditation - deal 3x damage on your next melee strike after being stationary for 2 seconds
Stop, don't give them ideas.
>>145831764
I assure you, what twi decides on for ma will be worse than that.
>>145831764
"no"
level 10 skills
oddjob - switch weapons twice as fast, deal 4.0x damage with katana draw attack
vagabond - jump in midair, enabling hidden overhead strikes all melees are capable of.
official
>>145830000
Don't play firebug. Just about every enemy has a massive fire resistance now. Wait until Tripwire unfucks the game in 2018.
>>145832681
>Wait until Tripwire unfucks the game in 2018.
with the fuck-reduction live update today, it's kind of almost playable again but not quite
>>145830082
>>145830380
>>145832681
So Flamer and M14.
But no one answered my second question, is the Firebug meta still shoot their feet for direct + firewall damage, and extra damage from the AoE 'splash' damage perk if you got it?
And is tap firing still a thing? I remember playing just a little after a patch that 'nerfed' the unintended extra damage from tap firing, but I half remember it still being better than full spray.
>>145833604
There was a hotfix today? I didn't see anything.
>>145833965
the live update system lets them change some things without steam needing to update kf2
conveniently his account is pirvate
>>145833965
If I understood right they just added .25 to all of the damage multipliers or whatever they're called without increasing it over 1.
So if before you did .25 damage to something you now do .50, but if you were doing .90 it will now be 1.00.
>>145833912
i'd suppose it's still there but ground fire only hits once every 250 milliseconds so range is more viable for the flamethrower
tap firing still deals marginally faster damage but since one flamethrower puff doesn't down a gorefast anymore and scrakes are basically immune to fire, just hold down continuous fire to make sure shit dies
Heads up, rack em up doesn't appear to do anything past the 4th stack. Sounds like they broke it when they changed the gunslinger version (now called some shit like rhythm method). Still semi-useful for making the railgun 1hit scrakes with all the other damage buffs.
Has anyone checked whether the latest patch fixed High Impact Rounds doing absolutely nothing for demo?
>>145834997
It gets max benefits on sharp after 4 hits for some reason, while slinger still needs to get to 7 for the max bonus. Tripwire is literally bad at copy pasting the same skill between perks.
>>145834573
>399 products
>1.7 hours and gave KF2 a positive
>points at modding community when devs made it fuck-all
>"I spent countless hours"
>private account
It actually kinda screams "I get paid for this".
How bad is Support now?
hey I found my review on the list! finally..
>>145836090
someone post that webm of a stalker taking a DBS shot point blank to the face and staggering back.
>>145836090
well as of the recent patch ~4 hours ago he can kill crawlers and stalkers again so not too terrible
>>145834698
>If I understood right
you do
>>145836309
Not quite to the face tho.. body shot
>>145836780
JUST
>>145836398
>he can kill crawlers and stalkers again
About half of the time. I still get a shitload of stalkers that survive a blast from the double barrel.
>Check a hallway, it's empty
>Quickly check another hallway, there's a Cyst in the distance
>Turn around and now there's 20 Zeds in my face and a couple of Sirens
>Run into the hallway with the Cyst, suddenly there's 10 Gorefasts and Stalkers in my face
>They tank my shots, can't bash them away and they throw me around like a rubber ball
I just want the Containment Station achievements, fuck this map and fuck Tripwire for thinking this is fun
>>145837162
lmao that sounds like hell
>>145837091
yeah it's still bullshit but possible to kill a stalker in one shot with an unperked pump shotgun provided all the pellets hit. better than taking 2-3 semi perfect shots.
>>145837315
wait no it doesnt
fuck tripwire
>>145837162
Containment Station is such a bland map I have no idea why TWI bothered making it an official one.
>>145837981
it looks like a cheap version of biolab but in space
>>145837981
it won the first round in the "non-survival" category in the competition, because it had poorly coded and barely functional "objectives" and because almost nobody else even entered that category
>>145830017
They probably forgot it exists.
Is it these new resistences that result in gorefasts pushing my shit in game after game or was something else changed? Or is it just the free weekenders not killing their share?
>>145838949
and so they include it as a survival map, instead of one of the maps that was good as a survival map
this will be doubly frustrating if they never do add in containment's objective mode
>>145838949
>"non-survival" category
>>145839302
>or was something else changed?
Yeah, it's something else.
Gorefast resistances actually are kinda subtle now, with today's live update.
But the bullseye update also gave them 50 head health, instead of the 20 they had before, rewarding good shot placement less.
Even shotguns, which are supposed to be gorefasts' weakness now, are worse at popping their heads than before, mostly taking 2 pellets instead of just 1.
>Haven't played KF2 since the FB and Demo were added
>"Oh they released SS finally, guess I'll give it a spin..."
>Play some Demo
>Gorefasts and Stalkers can just take M79 grenades virtually unfazed
>Scrakes seem more resistant to explosives than ever
>Grenades and Rockets disappear into the ether if teammates(?) are anywhere near to impact zone
I remember Firebug used to be alright, Caulk and a Microwave and you could fight just about anything that wasn't a FP.
I imagine if I tried to solo HoE as Firebug now I'd have quite an unpleasant time.
What the fuck Tripwire?
>>145827132
Look at Gibson.
Look how shifty he is. Twitching, eyes dancing around, his mind already prepping the next lie he's about to tell.
The signs were there.
>it's okay to add a fuckload of resistances and nerf perks at the same time
>it's no okay to remove the resistances
okay
>>145841162
>bullseye update
>rewarding good shot placement less
sasuga tripwire
Why doesn't Tripwire just balance PvE and PvP separately?
>>145842546
Because that would require actual work.
>>145841975
all they had to do was lower zed health but increase their damage dealt. easy way to give more power to both the players and the zeds.
they can still fix a lot of this by adding a headshot damage bonus so killing trash feels like it did before, assuming you weren't a complete shitter and can actually aim for the head. tripwire was trying to make it harder to kill trash with body shots (which is fine), but in their infinite wisdom they forgot to counterbalance the zeds' new tanky damage by rewarding headshots. this would have made the gunplay still feel good while raising the difficulty in a fair way.
even then, they still fucked firebug and especially zerker with this nonsense. this is some game design 101 shit. tripwire needs to wake up.
Should I get back into this game, or should I stick to other multiplayer games for right now?
>>145842676
or, instead of any of that,
they could just balance the bloody perks
>>145842676
>headshots
This, stalkers should never shrug off headshots from the magnums.
>>145843245
they never did
>Fall release
They have roughly 3 to 5 months. What's going to happen? Are we getting SWAT and Martial Artist? Delayed even further? PLACE YOUR BETS
I noticed on the spreadsheet that it says medic's scalpel causes some reactions that the other knives don't, has this always been the case?
Friendly reminder to enjoy VS instead of Survival over the weekend so you can enjoy killing shitters instead of being killed by them
>Bloat
>Head - x1.0001 / All other - x1.
>Husk
>Head - x1.001 / Backpack - x1.5 / Husk cannon - x0.5 / All other - x1.
Why not just make heads x1.1 like the rest?
No weapons are going to benefit from an extra .001 or .0001 unless it's doing an insane amount of damage like the railgun.
>>145843491
6 months, 2 days
My bet is they're gonna seemingly spend most of that time reworking the content that's already in the game, and then at the last minute, they'll push out SWAT and MA in an update that also reworks lots of aspects of the game, completely ruining absolutely everything even worse than the sharp update did, just in time for them to not even start fixing it before the planned release on Dec 20th, the technical last day of fall, and just in time for xmas sales.
But they'll delay the planned release by a week, only to add an exclusive limited time offer santa outfit for Briar and hat for everyone that you'll never ever have another chance to possibly get unless you buy the pcgamer magazine for Dec 2016. (but then dec 2017, everyone with the game will get them, during a free weekend)
Early access done right.
I can see where TWI wanna go with the resistances. There was a really popular SuperZombies mutator back in KF1, for fellas who like the real challenge. Like... Even basic Clots had 50% resistance against bullets unless you headshot them, Stalker claws would cause bleeding, Crawlers poison you, Scrakes get stunned only once just like flinch, Fleshpounds grow resistance to the last weapon you killed them within' their next respawn.
Yet...
All of the above things applied and WORKED unlike KF2, because we had a dozen of speedkill techniques that worked in KF1.
In KF2, all players are stripped down from such luxury because it casualized for consoles. If TWI wanna keep it down that lane for getting inspiration from the modders then they better study what they done with KF1 beforehand.
Asking "what are the differences between KF1 and KF2 Fleshpound, pliz list am lazy" on the forums doesn't seem convincing enough that you grasped what's beyond it. They just have no idea what to do with game on from this point. I'm sure of it, it struggles between being a "AAA PC game" and a "casualized console version of a good franchise".
>recent review score got back to 41% from 40%
>latest reviews filled with "it carried KF1 franchise higher" without having any idea about KF1
>or "graphics are beautiful" without mentioning gameplay
>or shallow "good game" comments without explaining anything
>all under 10 hours game play people
>some got in the free weekend
Very nice move TWI. At least no one gives them thumbs up credit at all.
>>145816834
Just chuck a grenade under the trader station.
>>145846608
It's incredible how much you're missing his point.
>>145843536
Yeah, if you pick Lacerate, then all scalpel damage makes Zeds bleed.
>>145847512
I meant the scalpel itself, it has gun hit power for primary attacks unlike the other knives, and the altfire has more melee hit power than the other knives.
Berserker has lots benefits for any knife, and commando has backup.
Medic's lacerate does apply to scalpel, but lacerate does only 1 damage per second, over the course of thirteen seconds, not stacking.
I have just successfully made a server for KF2.
However, it is currently using "Killing Floor 2 Server" as the name.
Where do I go to change the Server's name?
>>145848607
http://wiki.tripwireinteractive.com/index.php?title=Dedicated_Server_(Killing_Floor_2)#Server_Name_and_Admin_Contact
Does he not know Donovan has elbow pads and shin guards or that Ana has jeans and a jacket not a dress
20 hours in SDK
>>145852243
3rd panel should be getting knocked back into space if you can find that glasses comic
>Add skins no one asked for
>Add cosmetic items no one asked for
>Add characters no one asked for
>Add PvP no one asked for
>Add random-number-value resistance system no one asked for
All the time and effort spent on that instead of
>Adding all the perks
>>145843592
is VS Survival less horrible and one-sided now?
>>145841975
>Changing too much all at once makes it difficult to see which changes caused which results
Is the irony of this statement completely lost on them? What the fuck?
>no option to disable knockback
>no option to disable resistances
>no option to have the welder in the inventory
>no option to disable scrake/fp spawn noise
>no option to disable unparry-able attacks color coding
>no option to disable boss health bars
>no option to disable perk icons through wall
>>145855676
>pretty much all banter is done automatically by the game
>no option to insult players
cant believe people actually play this garbage
>>145855795
Oh yeah
>no option to make trader stop giving advice
CHAINSAW MAKE THINGS PAINFUL
FLAMING PLASMA HURTS
>hard to too easy for me
>suicidal too hard
being a casual is suffering
>>145856125
>never played anything lower than HoE in the last 6 month
>try suicidal
how can people play this shit it's so fucking slow and quiet, you spend minutes just waiting.
>>145854991
Yes, the player Zeds have been buffed with stats and extra abilities and effects. If pub teams actually make it to Pat (they usually don't 85% of all games), Pat pretty much 2-3 shots with melee smacks and his minigun/rockets are a lot more damaging
Wave 1 wipes against Survivors are very possible, especially if Survivors scatter and play like braindead shitters and Zeds work together efficiently
Honestly teleportation is still the worst issue for me.
teleportation > resistances > knockback > balance
I can neither find nor connect through console to the servers in the op, what are they called?
>>145856905
They are empty unless you go in the steam chat and ask people to play there.
>>145753796
>>145754575
Breaking the shield is only really good when you got an RPG on you.
Otherwise its a waste of ammo.
>Go to KF1 HoE server
>Playing Sharp
>The other 4 or 5 players appear to be in a group
>They are clearly trying to get me killed by ignoring any trash that comes my way
>I die during wave 5 and drop my M14
>Respawn for wave 6
>Grab my dropped weapon but don't get any money at the trader, could only afford to buy ammo, don't even get armor
>Come wave 6, at some point a Scrake came from one of the flanks someone else was covering and just left it alone, even though we had two more Sharps
>Scrake focuses on me
>I can't even begin to kill it when it's so close to me, I have no armor, and no LAR stuns
>Getting surrounded by trash again, I eventually get killed while I see everyone else just staring
>Spectating now, the two other Sharps now decide to quickly kill the Scrake and finish the rest of the wave
>Fine
>I switch to Firebug
>Wave 7 comes, start flaming anything that comes out and then running away
>Scrakes and Fleshpounds panicking due to fire and raging faster, making it harder for the Sharps to do anything
>tfw seeing the assholes start dropping like flies.
That was quite satisfying. I missed how easy it was to grief when you needed to back in KF1.
>kill patty before he heals
>don't get achievement for it
>>145849059
Yeah that would be great, but PCServer-KFGame.ini apparently doesn't exist.
steam group chat's ghosted again
>>145827132
>gibson always wearing some ugly black shirts with metal bands on them
Good god
>>145857583
>Sharpshooter
>using the M14 in KF1
For what possible reason, also no shit they don't clear trash for you when you bought the
>let me clear trash myself
weapon instead of the crossbow
>>145838949
>"gee guys, we sure have a lot of maps to choose from"
>"yeah.. this one, containmentstation looks good, lets make it official"
>"but isn't that a non-survival map? we don't have objective mode yet!"
>"psssh its fine, we'll just change it to be survival!"
>"genius"
No wonder that map feels awful, it wasn't really intended for this. Whats worse is the chance for an actual map that was is dead, stuff like Nuked deserved better than being below corridors in space: the map.
>>145858304
>Crossbow on Sui or HoE
Do you not know of the resistances Scrakes and FPs get to it on those difficulties? That thing is only good if you have other Sharps carrying it too, which they didn't. You can't kill a Fleshpound worth a shit with it either.
Everyone else was running M14/LAR too. It's the default combo to use for Sharp on those difficulties, it allows you to get much more reliable clean kills.
I noticed in one of the Google docs that Rae doesn't have any favorite weapon lines, and I don't think I saw anyone else get one for the Sharpshooter weapons.
Are they really getting this fucking lazy that after six fucking months they couldn't record any new lines?
>>145858304
>not running M14/Dual magnums/HC and decimating thousands of zeds
>try VS
>get to boss as human
>wipe the humans at wave 3 as zeds
>get this
10/10 mode
Anyone else feel like demo is in a good position right now? Mad bomber, High impact and Armour piercing are varying degrees of useless due to tripwires incompetence
But with the ability to carry m79 and rpg7 for the first time on kf2 as an avid demofag on any game i play i enjoy it.
m79, rpg7
Grenadier
Extra Rounds
Sonic Resistance
Concussive Rounds
Destroyer of Worlds
Is the best setup in my opinion until they fix the myriad of broken skills.
I find grenadier is what makes demo fun to play.
25% extra damage is good but taking almost 1 second off your reload times on top of the new incap system means that you can knock down scrakes and fleshpounds and stun all trash in a 3 mile radius constantly when you have concussive rounds.
I just wish they didn't ruin his grenades so badly, tiny aoe, removing stun on top of reducing the damage was just too much.
Now its essentially just the [G]et off of me button.
I also can't find any use for taking c4+offperk over m79 other than the boss wave.
Placing them on Patty so hes always visible or on hans as a panic shield remove if he manages to grab someone.
>>145858747
Yeah it feels pretty alright being able to spam the RPG at funpounds so much easier to get rid of them
Any sharpshooters here know how to quickly headshot scrakes with the lar/musket? Offline I can spam m1 shots into it's face just fine, but online it's head hitbox seems incredibly fucked and I have to shoot it just so while it's head is sunk. Is there a sweet spot I am missing or is it like that for online balance or something?
>>145858713
>ping: 752
Why do unparryable attacks glow if you arent even weilding a weapon that can parry? The effect looks like shit.
>>145860060
TW can't be bothered to code differences in Zed resistance between PvP and Survival mode.
What makes you think that they would play another animation if you can't parry an attack?
>autoaim heals
these go away at suicidal or higher, right?
>>145860060
Just in case you want to be cheeky and switch to your katana at the last moment
Dear Tripwire,
Please stop showering me with USB's. Thank you.
Yours sincerlely,
Man With A Billion USB's
>>145860417
No. If there's one casualized aspect of the game that's actually good it's autoaim healing.
Trying to hit teammates who refused to stand still in KF1 was HORRIBLE and 1/3rd of the time even if you hit them the hit detection fails and they don't get healed.
>>145860583
Shame, I managed to make so many friends in KF1 because I could hit people with that shit across the map.
>>145860828
Being a good medic still stands out in KF2. Most people are fucking garbage and you can save games with the increased heal speed.
>>145860583
>playing containmentstation as the healslut
>in that turbine room keeping an eye on both sides since the groups split
>shoot dart at hurt teammate right into his back
>it just flew over his shoulder and hit the wall
>later teammates getting chased down by scrake
>shoot more darts because he's on the mid health
>they lock on but since he was moving they all curved and hit a pillar
Its mixed feels when they choose to autoaim but its massively better than before
Do you think TWI will ever make a decent female character?
>>145834573
>I'm KF1 veteran
I always stop reading there.
>>145859369
I think the main reason Sharps have difficulty aiming reliably online is because you are playing with other players, so zeds are more common and you tend to feel more pressured to kill the Scrake fast. I'm pretty sure the hitboxes are the exact same, theoretically.
If you have the Musket, then you are in luck. Get it instead of the LAR and kill the Scrake before it even has a chance to lower its head during the stun. Three M14 shots plus two from the Musket kills a Scrake without it raging (on 6 player HoE, you may wanna test for other difficulties or number of players), and you don't need to compensate for the changing hitbox during the stun.
If you don't have it, then you are gonna need a third shot from the LAR, which is enough time for the Scrake to lower its head. However, getting one shot down during the whole time the stun lasts shouldn't be hard, and even if you miss, your teammates should be able to damage control it for you and headshot the Scrake, which should have a low enough head health for it to die easily.
But to solve that problem, more often than not, the problem usually seems to be that Sharps don't aim low enough. Try aiming a bit lower than you would when its head is down.
>>145861216
Listen, i'm a KF1 veteran myself and my opinion is just as valid :(
>>145861312
Oh, and if you can't afford an M14 at some point in a game and only the Musket, you can still get three headshots with it before its hitbox changes for the stun, which will make it only need one additional headshot for the decap. Obviously, the problem is you not only have to be more reliable with your accuracy, but you are also gonna need to shot the Musket as fast as possible to get all those three headshots in.
>>145837162
The spawn points are fucked up on this map, zeds are poping in front of you at every corner, if you can't hold your spot and you need to kite, you're dead. I've been trying to do HoE with 6man team but so far no luck. Luckily I was able to solo it, so I have the achievement and I'm just helping others to get past this suffering.
>>145861747
Help a brother out? Any time I try and complete that map, shit hits the fan because big guys spawn in right round the corners from your spots and if you do make it to the boss fights, hordes of sirens come out of nowhere and fuck shit up.
>>145843491
They are going to work now on PS4 and VR version, we will probably get like one/two "award winning community maps" before the full release.
>>145858585
Albert has a couple lines for the crossbow. Heard him stay stuff like "Now to put an apple on top thier heads!"
Masterson has one too I think
>>145861192
I kind of like the French punk rock one.
>>145861192
>Ana and Rae
>not top tier
Afraid of realistic women in your game, son?
>>145862694
>Play with a french girl some times
>Picks Ana ironically for how shit her french is
>Feels the need to laugh and point out how bad it is every time
Just give me a decent girl TWI
How do I avoid being as cancerous as possible as a free weekend fag?
I want to try this since I enjoyPayday 2and remember thinking of KF1 positively from what little time I spent with it.
>>145862986
I don't playPayday 2but I got to know, how bad it is? I see a lot of characters included so I think its at least got some consistency
Am I turds for taking that 1% armor thing as a medic? I just love the idea of being able to shoot armor at people.
>>145862986
Play as Commando.
Decent all-around and easily sets you into the gameplay.
How is PayDay2? I got it free from HiB and have a few HiB masks to boot but never played it. Seemed interesting especially now that they got rid of MTs I heard.
>>145863221
It's really shit but IIRC compared to the ability next to it it's great.
>>145861978
I've played solo as a Medic, 10 waves as the first waves were the hardest, bought SMG when I had change, sold and bought AR next, and before Scrake round started I was able to afford M14. Leave one clot alive at the end of the wave to repair armor and look for ammo in the meantime. I was staying in the turbine room so zeds were pretty much coming from one direction, AR for trash, M14 for Sirens, Husks, SC, FP. Don't try to kill biggies when there is ton of shit around it. When kiting don't bother with killing anything that's behind you, just look in front of you, there will be a lot of zeds there. Try to turn around every few seconds to stop sirens from teleporting, if you look in their direction the teleporting timer resets. For boss I was lucky to have Patty so just kite and shoot when you have a chance. When he uses minigun, you should be able to shoot him from around the corner in the right arm while he will be hitting wall.
For more tips you can watch Fatcat doing this with lvl 12/13 Sharp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCKgIbePzDg
>>145862294
He calls the Winchester 'The gun that won the west'
>>145862986
Stick to normal I guess, where coordination isn't really that important, and as long as you're all in the same area even the big ones won't give your team much grief
So, now that they changed the perks around:
1. Backup or Impact for Cuckmmando? Both look pretty shit, but i wonder if more stun might be preferable to faster weapon switching speed?
2. Does Wildfire still increase MWG damage on FB?
>>145863321
It's not really worth it anymore. I think it used to be 3% at one time, which was worth it.
>>145864002
Would you say its worth it on the boss wave at least?
>>145863901
You can't stun with backup, and in any case the stumble would only somewhat matter for gorefasts, except they still shrug it off.
>>145864135
Definitely not. Emergency healing is even more important on the boss wave.
>>145836176
>Bloody
>very VERY stress relieveing
What the hell?
>>145863901
Impact is shit, Backup is less shit.
Not even waifu mod can save this turd patch
REVERT ALL CHANGES
You're making it worse.
>>145862694
A realistic women would be in fucking combat gear insteads of running around in a dress you moron.
what are the recommended sharpy skills?
I'm thinking:
Sniper
Ballistic Shock
Rack em up
Dead Eye
Ranger
>>145862950
>Those hips
>>145864002
Man that ability used to be so absurdly good
Plop down a nade and its 50 armor for you and like 30 for teammates, but no had to reduce the amount of armor it gave AND the amount of times it counted for grenades.
Sure being able to tank a HoE FP because you were standing in 2 grenades was stupid but no need to make it worthless
>already tired of this game and tripwire's shit myself
>have a friend who bought the game months ago but won't play it "until the game is finished"
what do I even say to him
>>145865292
Depends, do you want to run solo and at what difficulty
Mostly comes down to being forced to deal with trash often or not, and your ability to maintain your shot combo
>>145865246
Stay mad your delusional power fantasy isn't a reality
>b-but she should be in gear! never mind that only like 2 other characters are in the right combat stuff!
Its meant to be a bunch of survivors, not generic military shit like CoD
>select ranked: stock
>still get put in custom maps
why?
>>145865894
Except for the fact that they're all mercs now unlike the survivors sticking together in KF1
>>145865859
Suicidal with a more or less competent pubbster team
>>145866105
The I would presonally go full out damage with Sniper, stability, rackemup and focus on never missing shots.
I mostly found Ballistic shock to be really underwhelimg if you can just do absurd amounts of headshot damage instead, combat ready for when you are soloing for the faster Lever Action reloading.
Havent done too many suicidal tests so I'm not 100% sure if you actually need the 30% damage increase for any significant breakpoints but the stun power always feels so underwhelming
>>145863164
It's good. They've actually been supporting it especially heavily over the past few months with patches, content, and gameplay re-works. Decide if you want DLC on sale later.
Also, make sure to join the PD2 Steam group cause it gives you a bunch of weapons and stuff if you do.
>level 0's in HoE
I hate this weekend
Is the railgun worth it for SS or is the xbow good enough?
>>145865107
Its a bad sign when even waifu shit wont save this game
>>145866840
xbow is shit now
>>145866840
Xbow is garbage
>haven't played since February
>all this shitting over teleporting and resistances
>what the fuck is teleporting
>find https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5oAKzgQb7s
how the fuck is this necessary
did they not go out of there way to make everything faster
in what world is this acceptable
>lv 10 medic in hard solos wave 9 with medic smg, RPG and ye olde magnum
>this including 4 scrakes
>2 fleshpounds
>and 100 other garbage mobs
>>145866883
>almost read that as "xbox is shot now"
wew
>>145809609
You're gonna have to link and provide proof, anon. You just think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies with no sources?
Why is this game so goddamn dark, I played this farm map and I couldn't see anything
I like dark games but I also prefer being able to see what's around me
Should I play around with the gamma?
>>145866840
>headshot husk/siren
>they aren't even decapped
>>145866860
>Nephander
WHERE
>>145867323
Well obviously
>>145866860
>scully player
>nepshit
It just goes hand in hand
>>145867504
Steam workshop
>>145866883
>>145866973
>>145867350
Wow holy shit that's retarded.
>>145823536
Hahahaha, and I thought someone solo'ing Patty as a Berserker (picking up his teams weapons) I joined on HoE before this update/resistances were added as bad after like 20 mins. Jesus Christ. They really need a way to have the health value slide depending on how many players are left so the game isn't a complete drag/bulletsponge Bosses.
>>145868093
It was great before they did the incap system change. Now, with the 100% stun power boost skill, it has 99 stun power against a fleshpound's head when 100 is needed to stun, and then the fucker enrages because of the damage gets a huge incap resistance.
Fucking free week shitters
get out of my games
>be level 15 sharp
>14 M14 shots to decap a 6 man sui FP starting from both 0 and 14 stacks
>10 M14 shots to decap a 6 man sui scrake likewise starting from zero or 20 stacks
Something's fishy.
>>145869697
damage bonus caps at 4 headshots
>>145869643
faggot i solo fought and killed a hard difficulty scrake modified for 6 players.
>>145870310
my favorite new kf2 meme
>>145870310
>hard difficulty scrake modified for 6 players
containment station would be a good map of you had access to that huge fucking area below the northeast trader
I refuse to play until them make FPs and stalkers less tanky and actually make boss zed stuns possible. The game plays like a totally uncoordinated mess right now.
>>145871287
I stun Patty with the M14 all the time
We need more meme weapons
>>145871490
I mean like scrakes/FPs. And now that I look at it I meant to say gorefasts and stalkers.
I wish tripwire would just import all the old voices from kf1 so we can use the voice commands.
Is it just me, or do the 3D scopes on the Sharp weapons suck major dick?
>>145871546
I just want a non shit looking M14 right now.
>>145871204
Containment station would be a good map if the game mode it was designed to be played with existed
>>145871636
Tripwire 3D scopes have always been ass, I used a RO2 hack that allowed you to use textures scopes and I sure as well will do the same for KF2.
>>145835714
that's kind of paranoid of you
some people aren't as angry as you are
>>145836780
They recently changed the resistances slightly, so all trash zeds (clot variants, slashers, crawlers, gorefasts) have .25 less resistance from all damage types
Could you try and recreate that webm and see if it still takes 2 shots for a stalker?
>The health on Fleshpounds and Scrakes
I don't think I ever faced one of these zeds in KF1 and thought "Man, you know what would make these zeds better? More health that requires everyone to dump their ammo on them to kill them"
What the fuck Tripwire.
>>145834573
is /vg/ so absurdly bitter that they dig up and publicly belittle anyone who gives a vaguely positive review?
>>145872146
Starting shotty can bodyshot stalkers now, if no pellet miss.
Boomstick can kill one, maybe two if they are perfectly aligned.
>>145871714
No :^) enjoy your fuck ugly EBR
>>145871714
maybe they'll add an official texture with RS2's early access, because you can't play on any servers with custom models.
>>145872826
nice, although i would definitely prefer them to be made of paper like they used to be.
>>145872727
We need higher damage on certain classes, as it is sharp is probably the only one that can just decimate big guys, and maybe to an extent, demo.
So I just reinstalled the game after hearing this shit and tried doing some solo games as support on HoE.
This is fucking awful
>>145858713
>>145858724
my god KF1's aesthetics were so much better
>Even my friend, who decided to play KF2 during the free weekend, said the game felt awful with how much most zeds can resist damage even to the face
When people who play your game casually can tell something is wrong, you know you fucked up as a dev.
>>145872727
Current Scrake has less HP and head HP than KF1 though
>KF1 6p HoE Scrake HP 6125 / 2844 head HP
>KF2 6p HoE Scrarke HP 4620 / 1650 head HP
Fleshpound does has more body HP but the head HP is lower
>KF1 6p HoE Fleshpound HP 5906 / 3063 head HP
>KF2 6p HoE Fleshpound HP 6300 / 1787 head HP
The problem is more about Perks doing fuck all damage except for Sharp and Gunslinger
>>145873046
Gunslinger can as well, it actually takes less .500 shots to kill SCs and FPs now than pre-Sharp
>>145873849
>The problem is more about Perks doing fuck all damage except for Sharp and Gunslinger
Well that's just the thing. It's all relative to how much damage the perks do. KF2 Scrake may as well have 1 health, but if most of the perks does a millionth of that health as damage, then the Scrake is still going to feel stupidly tanky.
>>145872820
a mixture of boredom, disappointment and autismal rage.
>>145873962
But TWI just say "Well our stats say support and demo deal too much damage so lets nerf them"
What they fail to factor in is EFFECTIVE damage.
Sure demo and support can hit a dozen zeds but a shot gun wont kill them and a RPG over kills.
This is why slinger, sharp and kommando are better than ever before. They apply their damage directly to the head.
Whats the optimal setup for sharp now? Tried M14 and xbow, but it wasn't good at all for FPs.
Should Demo stay on or off-per? I'm digging RPG+Grenade Launcher but not being able to heal people isn't worth it at all I think.
>>145876446
GL sucks. RPG+C4+Pistol is far better.
>>145876342
I've been running LAR+M14+Med pistol, LAR for trash, M14 for medium to large Zeds
>>145876446
Thanks to the new resistances Med SMG+C4+RPG might be a good loadout
>25% direct hit damage in exchange for 3 rounds
>30% aoe in exchange for 20% damage
What the fuck?
>>145876609
>>145876621
How do I deal with C4 and it's low as fuck ammo?
>>145872820
Nigga played it for an hour an a half and is trying to forgive early access microtransactions while fuck all progress is being made.
What a KF veteran, buying the biggest blunder of the year over a year late.
>>145877921
Perk up, take the +5 Ammo instead of the -3 ammo/+25% Direct Impact skill.
Did they fuck over the banter sound files or something?
>request dosh
>''SOMETHING CLOAKED IS AROUND''
>during fucking breaktime
>>145877878
One makes Demo horrible at killing trash (let's face it, he's horrible as is, but that only makes it even worse) and the other makes him horrible at killing FPs and SCs, which is all he has left. And Sharpshooter does that better anyway.
Let's come up with ideas for how TW can further fuck up the KF series.
>release a feature length movie, main character is Rae, all the zeds are 3DCG
>start changing KF1 to "make it more similar to KF2, so the meta is similar for both games :)"
>>145877878
>half default splash radius
>add +30% as a perk option
Getting pretty sick of this shit
>>145878763
Did they actually?
Demo is pure!
>>145879013
Before this update, the RPG's splash radius was 1000 units (1 unit = 1 cm, so 10 meters) and then they lowered it to 250.
They increased it to 400 but that's not nearly good enough.
>>145879213
>C4
>radius lowered to 400 (was 800)
>>145879213
>>145879416
Fucking hell, no wonder I feel like I'm not able to clear trash effectively. Doesn't help that Gorefasts and Stalkers can shrug off explosives either.
>>145878537
>He thinks he's safe during trader time
>>145880685
That bug has been around for so fucking long
>people who bought the game last week making excuses for TW
This shit is gold
>>145880770
>Does it follow the same old zed shoot em up formula: Yes
Triggered
>>145880770
>.7 hours on record
>Product received for free
Ana think she slick......
>>145881331
>Doesn't has a single map achievement in KF1, normal or HoE
What
>>145881331
>... the Patriarch is missing in the base game. I believe there is a DLC that brings him back, but I feel this is the only "real" screw-up that Tripwire has with this version.
What the fuck, did this guy even play the game?
>>145881331
>except for the fact that the Patriarch is missing in the base game. I believe there is a DLC that brings him back, but I feel this is the only "real" screw-up that Tripwire has with this version
It's not even funny how now these people are
WHO IS THIS MYSTERIOUS MARKSMAN?
Someone with modding skills, please make Doom's ost for kf2.
aaaaaa!
>>145882280
nuDooM or old DooM?
is server browser just broken?
can't join any games
>>145883169
new doom familia
I just found out that you can run into a hallway with a bloat and get past him without getting puked on just by bashing him with a gun
wew
>>145878282
>the +5 Ammo instead of the -3 ammo/+25% Direct Impact skill.
neither of those skills affect c4
>>145883726
That works again? I remember very clearly bashing away at Bloats in the preview update and it did jackshit, same with big guys and even Gorefasts
>>145884953
Seems so, as a lv 1 commando I bashed and ran past a bloat in a hallway that barely even let me squeeze trough.
>>145884946
I just saw that in the Googledoc and that is fucking retarded.
>>145885150
OP link to the patch notes:
>All Weapons with Bash
>increased stumble power
>added melee hit reactions power
>stumble power wasn't strong enough to stumble zeds when hit with bash this has now been adjusted. also added in melee hit reactions so that if stumble for the zed is on cool down the zed will still flinch from the bash
That's 1035, the official release of Sharp, and we just hit 1036 with the Trash Resistance Partial De-fucking yesterday.
>>145884953
>in the preview update
they partially undid the nerf to bash since then
bashes still don't work on raging fleshpounds, I know
>free weekend shitters in HoE
how terrifying
>>145885558
>>145885150
>>145885551
Oh good to know, that had me really bummed out
>>145885551
>>145885558
just played with it a bit
raging fp: nothing with first bash
calm fp: gun hit effect with first bash
scrake: gun hit effect with first bash
takes a few bashes to accumulate into a stumble for them
>>145885790
>having no friends to play with
>>145886320
NORMIES OUT
RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>PvP
I haven't been following anything involving the PvP since it was announced.
Is everyone dumbfounded by this shit or is it just me?
Nice desu ne
https://a.pomf.cat/bkcavi.mp4
>>145883284
Shit taste fampai.
>>145886826
>anime profile
WESTLONDON
>>145886826
you got hacked, animeme
freshest kf2 exploit
>>145886471
>having no NEET, anime watching, internet friends to play with
>>145886826
>Windows 10
>>145887196
I'm not interested in being friends with leeches
>>145886826
>toolbar on side
>anime
>>145886826
Hey i've seen you in a game or two
>>145871628
THIIIIIS
The new voice commands are shit
why can't I say thanks when someone gives me dosh? fuck
>>145886826
>League of legends
>>145886826
Spread that boipussy, bitch
>>145804836
Well STALKER is a windows XP game, the screenshots aren´t even in 16:9, looks underwhelming
>>145810627
The Sirens being too tanky is a problem, it´s very noticeable even in lower difficulties.
I heard dudes calling them "immortal bitches" over voip.
When was sharpshooter supposed to be released?
What's a good secondary for an SS fighting a patriarch ?
I'm using an M14 as a primary
>>145889556
December 2015
>>145887232
thats w7 tho
>>145887553
>tfw you have to settle for AFFIRMATIVE
>>145889973
November
>We''ll be done in 6 months
>We'll be done in November
>We'll be done by years end
>We'll be done after New Years
>>145889912
on solo, don't weight yourself down with other stuff, need the run speed
with a team, medrifle for heals and trash
>>145890275
I mean after it was obvious the game wasn't going to be released by the end of the year, Yoshiro talked about how they wanted to ship Gunslinger and Sharpshooter together but Sharp had to be delayed because fuck you
>>145890417
thanks, Wouldn't the railgun be better as a primary with a team?
They ruined the fucking game, I don't even like playing any perk now. Every zed is a fucking bullet sponge and Berserker is the worst perk of all now.
>>145891594
I'm enjoying all the tank Berzerker perks, though. I like being an immovable object.
>>145892226
>I like being an immovable object.
*Crawler teleports behind u*
>>145892315and 2 medics behind me
What was the recent review score pre-update?
>>145892226
Yes but then u do zero damage. But not like it matters, even with all fedoraninja damage perks berserkers damage is still shit. Gorefasts dont even die from HS with sword.
>>145892474
around 50~%
Anybody wanna have a fight?
>>145892415
>no poplar gf
old maps are better than new ones
https://u.pomf.is/eawvrr.webm
>>145893316
Farm is shit
>>145893714
https://u.pomf.is/ydiwfx.webm
forest is even worse
>hans charges at me with his shields up
>instead of grabbing me he just melees
Is this part of his new shield mechanic?
>>145898336
no, just another bug that hasnt been fixed. its been a problem for around a month now.
So, I played hundreds of hours in KF1, played the KF2 beta, I am now playing right now and..
1) hans is still a bullet sponge
2) Running is a joke
3) the pistol, well the gun sounds/feedback is not as good as in KF1
4) Netcode, seems erratic, but maybe this is just my connection.
5) Pacing, even at normal it all comes so quick there is no build up, they had a really nice idea with the scream in the distance of the Fleshpound but somehow it feels like they wanted to just make it "faster" without considering the consequences.
6) Maybe is a nitpick but I see no green smoke anymore around healing grenades, I see a blue flash but with the current game's aesthetics it get sort of messed up.
>>145755839
So it is eh?
>>145899709
>cream in the distance
yeah, it's often quite jarring when you hear this distant scream and turn a corner and the fleshpound spawned literally right next to you
Really they should spawn on the other side of the map and eventually stalk the players or something
>love gunslinger since I can tap the mouse insane fast tiers
>that quick draw secondary
jesus christ why
its not hard to press 1 a bazillion times
>>145899709
>2) Running is a joke
what's this even mean?
too fast? slow? the exagerated sprint animation?
Does us gas marks works and doesnt clip with the anton's german helmet or german officer cap?
>>145900320
not him but i think most people agree it's a bit too slow.
There's not that much of a difference between sprinting and not sprinting
>>145900093
Is not just the spawn being near, is everything being crammed onto your face, KF1 for me always had that "o shit they are coming" at every wave, you cant run, but you can hide/set yourself, but now there is running and is not even good running so it feels like a bunch of retards wailing their hands.
By the way, did they fix the specifimens spawning near you making the (easily breakable) wielded door moot?
I hope at least they kept Berserk fun and improved the skill trees.
>>145900320
It feels like a cartoon run, where you flap your limbs really fast but you are barely running in place.
>>145900758
Fuck my english.
Does US Gas Mask works with the Anton's german helmet and does not clips with it?
Also is there any gas mask that works with the german officer hat? I have one but it clips like hell.
lmao, the steam forums are going nuclear on tripwire.
>>145900609
>I hope at least they kept Berserk fun and improved the skill trees
Oh you poor man, if only you knew
>>145898336
>>145899113
This has been around since release. He occasionally stops to attack when he can't catch up after a certain period, and sometimes he ends up 'switching' while in range to chase with melee. You would never see it as much anymore because people learned to let him heal ASAP.
It's happening again because he first runs away, and then most people dance around the map.
>>145900609
They re-made Berserker once, it was completely broken overpowered. 200 HP, high speed and a shitton of damage, then it got nerfed and it was just strong but was used to exploit the Zed's AI so now it got re-worked again and it's beyond shit.
>>145900609
Zerker was the most powerful perk in the game until a few days ago, in which it became one of the least powerful perks
>hans heal phase changed
>playing zerk, run up to him after he runs around for thirty seconds
>he just hits me a few times and fucks off to grab someone else
what even
>>145901798
>>145901874
But it worked fine in the beta
>>145901197
why
>>145902384
So far Rae in a dress and Resistance being shit
Also negative reviews are being deleted apparently
>all those 3 words positive reviews
>>145860478
Having to get rid of the "NEW ITEM OH SHIT NIGGER" notification every time I play the game irks me.
>My angry review made it onto the most helpful list
Down with Tripwire. Take back KF2. Revolution now.
>>145903631
link it nigga
>79%
Now all we need is for recent to hit 39%.
>implying they care for the pc audience
They're just waiting for that sweet sweet console release for some sales.
>>145904823
oh goody, its about time.
>>145904823
>/kfg/ babbies think that's impressive
get a load of this
*whips out reviews*
>>145905028
what game? apb?
>>145904823
>We went from Very Positive to Mostly Positive
>TWI try to fix it with free weekend
>It backfired
WE DID IT BOYS
>>145905028
>impressive
Considering the game went from 95% to this, and the majority of positive votes are either from people who played on free weekends or didn't update their reviews to correspond with how shit the game is, I think a 26% jump is pretty good.
>>145901019
i only have the blue one so it's not the best colour reference, but it doesn't seem to clip with the helmet. can't say about the officer cap as i don't have it.
>>145905338
>covering antons handsome face
>>145901895
When I read the change I was worried it would just trick players into wasting ammo because his feeding charge was an inevitability and with all the talk of resistances and nerfing weapons I figured it would be like shooting through three Fleshpounds to break his shield. But no, it's paper thin and I never need my second RPG/Microwave Gun/Rail Gun because he just gets spit roasted like it's 1945.
Heard someone say his AI is bugged so he doesn't feed properly, so in 3 or 4 months he should be back to being an annoying old fuck.
>>145905338
Thank you anon.
I was afraid it wouldn't work like ski-mask. Gotta love that comissar look
Is the review button supposed to dissapear when I press post review?
>>145906394
Probably.
>>145860583
Agreed.
I can't understand why people bitch about getting heals that actually hit this time.
>WHOA WHOA, MY MEDIC JUST HEALED ME?! FUCK THAT I BET THE AUTOAIM DID IT, FUCK THAT SHIT I DON'T WANT TO BE HEALED
Who gives a fuck?
>>145907383
People who are against it are autists who want difficulty in any way possible, not the fair kind. I mean sure it casualizes the game which is kind of bad, but compared to the incredible frustration of trying to hit teammates (and when it does hit, sometimes it fails) it's FAR less frustrating to get "an easy heal" than to insist on aiming manually and missing over and over because your teammates won't stand still.
So basically, people who don't like autoaim healing are the same kind of people who think teleporting is fun because it makes the game harder. I mean, sure it does, but if we want the hardest possible experience why don't we just teleport the players to the zeds and disarm them? That would be hard!
>>145907802
OK thanks I think I get it now.
Well gee, if they like dying so much maybe they should head back to Dark Souls.
>>145907965
>Dark Souls
>Hard
wew lad
>>145858304
>KF1 M14
>let me clear trash myself weapon
>suggesting xbow
I doubt you read entire post:
>They are clearly trying to get me killed by ignoring any trash that comes my way
Xbow is not the optimal weapon for killing Fleshpounds at HoE 6p setups and can't clear swarms at all. Also M14 can clear trash as well as decapitating big bads easily.
>>145857583
>I can't even begin to kill it when it's so close to me, I have no armor, and no LAR stuns
If it's too close you can still flinchlock it by hugging it. When executed right, by minding hipfire direction and recoil compensation you'll only take damage from the trash closing in as Scrake will be flinched and decapitated from M14 headshots. Still if it aint enraged yet and you're healthy enough you can tank the chainsaw hit once then run away to heal abit and clear trash around him.
If you can't do any of the above, then you may guess your teammates left you to die just because you being a burden. Gratz, you played with a few elitist dolts.
If you get swarmed that easily then you may as well too far from your teammates or not giving slight attention to the combat. Selling M14 and getting at least armor and a loaded LaR or MK23 (flinches Scrakes on headshot just like M14, when onperk'd) is another option you didn't take for wave6. You have a 9mm to fend off trash off from you for a good while to spare M14 mags to the big bads however.
>>145859369
After the first headshot from LaR or Musket, Scrake headhitbox will hang about at the same location for like 2 seconds even you see the head flopped down. Mind the recoil and it's 2 more free shots after the first headshot to Scrake before the head hitbox flopped down to the shoulder level and start swinging around. I suggest doing one or two headshots with MK23 before stunning it with Musket 3 shot combo. A pistol or M14 headshot before you attempt to finish also ensures that you have their aggro.
>>145861312
Best advice.
>>145892474
It jumped from 40% to 41%
>>145907965
They don't like dying, they enjoy squatting on a cactus while playing.
>>145908125
It's not hard, I just mean like dying is one of the main themes of the game.
>>145907383
Not to mention medics enough of a pain of a job trying to keep a bunch of retards alive, could you really imagine KF1's dart system in todays game when teammates are flying all over the place with knockback and other crazy movements? Fuck that shit, playings enough of a chore in 9/10 games when they think they can all just split and be extremely aggressive thinking "med will rush to MY safety over everyone elses"
>>145908464
>If it's too close you can still flinchlock it by hugging it. When executed right, by minding hipfire direction and recoil compensation you'll only take damage from the trash closing in as Scrake will be flinched and decapitated from M14 headshots.
Ah, that's new to me. Thanks man, I'll keep it in mind next time.
Lol, the only good part of this update is the OP zeds in VS. Literally every game I played wiped on wave 1 or 2 thanks to both the level 0s and the new resistances. Also:
>husk fire has knockback :^)
>>145907383
>darts have autoaim
>people complain about it
>darts have no autoaim
>people complain that the medic is not healing
??????????????
>>145909049
I swear husks fireshots have always had knockback
wew
>>145909191
I mean their flamethrower has knockback now. Could've sworn the fire they leave on the ground has knockback too, somehow.
>>145909049
That's because you're playing against Free-Weekenders.
>>145909348
It does
>>145818451
When is the next thread?
>>145909414
That's the fun part. I've made a few ragequit so far like >>145818451
>>145906391
>US gas mask
Schwein!
daily reminder that Destroyer of Worlds is the worst ZT perk in the game and you are hindering your team by using it.
>>145909560
Whoops, thanks for reminding me
>>145905268
tree of savior
horrid korean mmo
>>145908941
Just takes 7 M14 headshots altogether. You can hug and unleash the half mag on its face directly to flinchlock and decapitate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o53pHI1TZlU
Alternatively; at the 4th headshot 6p (all alive) HoE Scrake will start enrage and charge yet if you stay calm you can stun and decapitate it mid-charge with a Musket or LaR headshot or finish it with M14 as it runs onto you when you have enough distance. Some people hug it as its charging and land the rest on its head with M14 too but that requires a good eye and ping.
Free shitter here, I've only put in a dozen hours so far but I'm going to blog about how the game's feeling is shit.
-UI and graphics are overly polished, too clean and glossy. Not enough grimy textures and gore.
-The new FP and Scrake designs are generic as fuck.
-The SOUND DESIGN IS SHIT. Is it just me? Nothing makes any sounds. FP's and Scrakes don't make any noticeable rage sounds, I'm around the corner sounds, taking damage sounds, or I'm fucking blending your teammate sounds. There are no Crawler tearing your ass sounds. There are no salivating Gorefast coming for your ass sounds, just sharp sword shit. There's no fucked up Clot inhalation, or Husks trying to speak.
-New music is pussy shit and it gets interrupted ALL THE TIME
-Sprinting is fucking annoying
And lastly WHERE ARE ALL THE VOICE COMMANDS?
