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Chinese Tempo Warrior edition

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://TempoStorm.com
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/
https://manacrystals.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

Old >>145509774
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>>145592576
Hi there, dead card
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>>145592645
The chinks love it
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No one watching the >esports??
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>>145593027
Who cares about memesports?
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>>145593027
im watching pirate j4ckie
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Does /hsg/ consider N'zoth Midrange Hunter to be better or regular Midrange Hunter?
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>>145593127
This
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>>145593127
Based british man
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>>145593352
Some /hsg/ hunter said it's a winmore version of midrange hunter. It wins good match-ups harder but doesn't help with others.
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>>145592576
How's a chinese tempo warrior like?
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>Play on and off since beta
>Only Legendary I've ever opened was Baron Geddon, twice
>Do shitty dailies and brawls for weeks on end
>Nothing
>Lose 6 times in a row to wallet brawl
>Suddenly, get a win
>Opened the pack and and hover over the cards
>HOLY SHIT A FUCKING LEGENDARY, FINALLY

XD
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>>145593352
n'zoth decks in general are meh, they play inferior cards in hope they can get le epic value on turn 10+
>ignore their board
>win
all they beat is fedora tippers
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>>145594058
>Sylvanas
>Highmane
>Tirion
>Cairne
>Inferior
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What about azure drake in midrange hunter?
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>>145593930
Variann Tempo Warrior with Argent Commanders
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>>145592576
Argent commander is awesome!
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why does shaman not only have the best spells but also the best monsters in the game
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>>145594217
cairne is a shitty minion, as is n'zoth himself

n'zoth in particular is really, really bad. dead card until turn 10 and does nothing about enemy board or your health when played
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>>145594527
Ehhhh, their spells are alright, they have good burst but there is much better spells
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>2 hours to finish a 3 win Priest quest
jesus christ this is painful, you literally have no good matchups in this ladder, it's a giant fucking gamble every time.
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>>145594527
>tfw you play mistcaller and then an 8/8 for for and a 5/6 reno

ALSO

FUCKING CALL IT BOYS WHICH LEGO IS THIS
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So I heard big taunts are good in arena.
Am I doing this right?
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>>145594842
Drop to rank 20 and bully your wins from newbies
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>>145594928
>Belchers
>Bogs

If you don't get a minimum 7 wins you're a shitter
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>>145594882
BEHOLD THE RAGE OF THE FIRELANDS
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>>145594842
If you rank in Standard, quest in Wild or vice versa.
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>>145594882
Reverse Nat Pagle
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>>145595060
First game is a loss already. Not much I can do against this.
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>>145595356
#Justarenashamanthings
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GODLENTO
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>>145595356
why don't you just flamestrike that shit
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>>145595356

The elements destroyed you
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>>145595220
>>145595081
I guess this is okay

Not what I wanted
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>>145595423
Yeah the 477s make you waste so much value/tempo trying to get rid of them.
I once played against a guy that had 5 of them in his 15 first cards. Wish I was kidding.
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>>145595575

It not in hand fool
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what deck should I make?
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I knew I should have taken the fucking Secretkeeper instead.
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>>145595756
I've seen it in control Shaman.
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>>145595756
I wish the game supported him so badly
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You can get 2 packs and an arena run for $1 in the E3 Humble Bundle pack.

Anyone able to get multiple 500 coins?
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>>145594559
You win this one, my friend.
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If I don't get at least 5 wins in a row now I'm literally uninstalling this rigged piece of crap RNG fest garbage.
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>>145595983
patron druid
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>>145595984
A story to tell your friends anon.

>>145596051
What E3 Humble Bundle?
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>>145596231
That mana curve looks horrible.
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>>145596294
Nevermind.
Thanks Amazon. Absolutely no fucking excuse for this.
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>>145596294
https://www.humblebundle.com/e3-digital-ticket

Surprised I haven't seen it mentioned here.
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this brawl fucking sucks
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>>145596472
Yeah, I realized after asking and pressing the post button.
Too bad I can't buy it. >>145596460
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>>145596582
It's alright
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33 classic packs in since last legendary, and no goodies for me... Guess im gonna hit the pity timer.
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So fucking tired of losing every game as Priest. The only class I've gotten cards from packs for is the worst one in the game. Fucking thanks
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>>145597315
It's your own fault you faggot bitch.
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>>145596472
They were talking about it yesterday, dumb shit.
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>>145597315
just give up my man, it's not worth the effort. dragon, n'zoth, control, c'thun, they are all fucking trash. your best match ups are control warrior or n'zoth paladin and they are 55/45 at best, it's just not worth the hassle anymore. the class is fundamentally broken until the next expansion, we have no choice but to live with it. yes, some spergs like Zetalot manage to make it "work" but if you watch his stream it takes him half the month to get to dumpster legend where he then spends the next half grinding and grinding away and MAYBE making top 200 after literally 400 hours of playtime every month. there's a reason they call him Saltalot, wouldn't you be angry having to play Priest that fucking much in Shamanstone: Heroes of Garrosh?

so where do you go from here? your choices for classes are:

1) Shaman
2) Warrior
3) Warlock
4) Rogue

in that order. everything else is futile and not worth the grind in terms of making ladder progress.

great fucking metagame, Brode.
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Golden Imp is pretty nice
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>There are people that can't build their own deck in the "pick 25 class cards and 5 neutrals: the meta"
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>t1 alex
>t1 rafaam
>t1 y'shaarj
Excellent brawl
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Get rid of priest and make a new class that isn't for cucked little faggots.
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>Want to play Hunter
>Trump hasn't made a video yet
Shiiiiiiiiiit.
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>>145598287
Waiting for the Paladin video here.
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>>145598287
I'm wondering if he'll run tracking and a freezing.
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armour sure is h*lla freaking epic
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>turn 1 alex
>turn 2 attack pyroblast
nice brawl brode
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>>145598841
Don't cuss.
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>>145598654
The Paladin one's out, if you mean the N'Zoth deck.
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Ayy
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>>145599024
Oh shit you're right, time to git gud.
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I had more fun with HS back when I was watching trump teaches and using the shitty basic decks ...
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>>145599547
Yeah. The meta fucking sucks
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Best decks without adventures? Started on an alt account and it doesn't feel like I'll be getting them any time soon.
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>>145599723
was gonna ask this, ive been eyeing up oil rogue so far
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Is reno paladin a thing?

I don't really play any other class besides Paladin save for when I have the quests show up. So I'm wondering if I should just turn him to dust
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>>145597830
>4 extremely viable classes
Why is this bad?
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>>145599189
I suggest taking his advice with Justicar. It just single-handedly won me a game against Priest (who we all fear, as N'Zoth players) and I didn't even draw it until gone turn 10.
Forget the Pyro anti-synergy. It's worth it.
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>>145599827
Paladin has enough healing to work without reno.

But yeah it can be a thing if you want it to for quests.
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>>145599829
>less than half of all available classes are competitive on the ladder or in tournaments
>this is somehow a good thing
Brode, is that you?
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Okay well fuck just putting together what looks fun for this brawl.

Someone give me a cheap insta-win-or-lose deck so I can grab the quick pack.
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>>145600263
Alex + Pyroblast +28 cards

Queue until you go first and have both
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>>145600416
Not him but how can I win the brawl if I have mostly basic cards and just started?
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>>145600263
This worked for me but I got really lucky
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what's it gonna be /hsg/?
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>It's a any of the 6 cards you need to turn the game around are in the last 10 cards in your deck game streak.
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>>145600263
Flood zoo - Raid Leader, Stormwind Champion, Mukla, and Bilefin, Tidehunter, Forbidden ritual

Flood board then buff
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>>145600263
I stuffed my deck with legendaries, Naga Sea Witch plus every fag control card Priest has. Typical stuff like Light Bomb, Entomb, Mind Control, Mind Games and Resurrect.
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Anyone playing wild ranked? What kind of decks are you running?

I'm running zoolock and heavy control priest, zoo seems to be fairing much better.
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>mage
>die next turn
>opponent on 5 health
>play yogg
>far sight fireball
>innervate
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>>145600585
>Ben Brode's laughter somewhere in the background
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>>145600585
N@
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>>145601495
Tinkmaster saw tournament play recently.
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>>145601885
In what? I just opened it too
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>Got Nozdormu from Brawl pack.
>Light Rag from Wotog pack. Already crafted one.

T-thanks Blizzard

Guess I'll start saving for next adventure.
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>>145601885
Yeah, tournament, which isn't ladder.
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This is my first round opponent on Strivewire... fuck lol
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>>145602329
Goodluck anon you can do it.
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>It's another uninspired brawl

Jesus even the rng cards rng mana costs is better than this crap
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>>145602329
>played since pre-naxx
>nowhere near legend this season
>will never be as good as GetOutplayed
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>>145602665

Most people aren't top 50 legend tho lol, it's like 1% of 1%.
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>>145602434

lost game 1, won game 2, my priest deck is a weak link though and he banned shaman.
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What to craft? Choose 2.

Fandral Staghelm
Cenarius
Xaril
Hallazeal
Soggoth
Yogg-Saron
Deathwing
Deathwing Dragonlord
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>>145601934
In control warrior as counter to miracle rogue if i recall correctly.
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>>145599829
Warrior and Warlock were viable since forever with little periods of mediocrity. Somehow Warrior shows the highest versatility of the decks despite it's hero power that helps very few of them. It can be only explained as a result of card quality and synergy. Shaman has received tons of good cards since BRM, so much in fact that it doesn't use many of them. They simply don't make the cut for high quality of the deck. Miracle rogue is the opposite of claimed design goal after old miracle nerf, yet it was intentionally buffed with cards like Tomb Villager that fit right in the deck.

Overall all these decks have very strong cards that show great internal synergy and consistency on top of that. We've seen their variations before WotOG and they will topple each other in tier 1 until something new happens.
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>>145599884
Yeah i was already running Justicar, it's also great against control warrior.
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>>145603179
well it all depends on what you want to play
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ANONS I NEED HELP

The only time I have fun with the game is when I play Tempo Mage, but I've held out on Yogg-Saron

What are YOUR stories with Yogg to tell your friends? Worth the dust?
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>>145603179
xaril / yogg sauron or fandral / cena
both see constructed play and are bretty fun
or craft some epics
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what are some of the cheesiest decks to finish quests in this brawl?
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>>145603179
Yogg
Fandral
Xaril
Hallazeal
Cenaruius
Deathwing
Soggoth
Dragonlord

That's how I would prioritize them
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>>145603757
>Token druid fills the board
>Flamestrike
>Next turn he fills the board again, has lethal next turn for sure
>topdick yogg
>flamestrike
>swipe face
>starfire
>soulfire itself

Was cool, managed to kill him next turn. He's usually a last resort card and works really well in that role even if it's just making you laugh when the game is already lost.
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>>145603490
Not post related, but I want to play mage, I have nearly every card. But fuck freeze mage, I'd rather kill people with numbers, not with boredom
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What do
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>>145602329
>>145602434

I won 3-1 :) , drew very well vs his zoolock with both my cthun druid and midrange hunter decks.
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>Trying to grind with make do basic mage deck
>Add c'thun and buddies in
>Suddenly much better
Does c'thun druid need any epics/legendaries? I'm not sure if I should work towards that or midrange hunter
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>>145604252
Soggoth easy
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>>145604293
nicely done anon
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>>145604252
Easy Y'shararj, other anon is leading you astray
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>>145604306
Work towards midrange hunter imo. I think it's one of the best decks in the format and primed to stay that way

C'thun Druid core needs Emperors and some play Fandral.
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>brawl
>t1 alex this "heh, grettings" faggot face
>he tries to meme me with micro machines and buffs
>t2 thoughtsteal into wolf+cultmaster and go face
>faggot executes and trades some shit before going face
>use FUCKING LIGHTBOMB OH FUCK I MISSED YOU BABY and drop an ASP
>he kills it and is already out of cards
>finally drop onyxia to listen to his "You win this one"
GET FUCKED MUH ARMOR AUTIST, GET FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKED
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>lava burst into lava burst into rockbiter on his doomhammer
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What's wrong with C'thun
I understand he's probably not suited for higher level play but for someone who just started who is fighting other people who just started, it seems good
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Anyone laddering with dragon warrior with bloodhoofs over tactican?
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I got this and malygos out of two packs today, are they any good?
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>>145604815
It's easy to counter, the minions you play on curve are typically subpar, the meta has to allow it, getting to t10 is a feat against most decks, Druid has problems utilizing it but is the best at it right now but Druid is a fairly weak class all being said
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>>145604815
n'zoth also fills the "run shitty cards to turn on this ball-breaking 10-drop" slot
but its shitty cards are better, and you don't need as many of them
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>>145604787
>They have 3 cards
>It's doomhammer and 2 rockbiter for exact lethal
>At practically half my health
Doomhammer has always been a problem but people have only noticed it after shaman became relevant again.
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>>145604947
Malygos is "better" because it's a neutral so it sees play in a wider pool of decks, but Hallazeal is tight af in Control Shaman from what I've heard.
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>>145604947
I wish Hallazeal was better. I guess the problem is that you need to cast spells for him to be effective, but by turn 8 it's too late. Especially when you then have 2 cards in your hand that you're holding on to until turn 8 hits.
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>>145603179
In priority order:
Yogg
Fandral
Xaril
the others

Fandral is easily the best (as in worth crafting) class lego from this expansion.
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>>145605043
It was fine for Shaman to have such a badly designed card when the class was shit
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>>145604815

Midrank ladder Cthun decks are decent and legend to top legend you can do cthun druid or cthun warrior.
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>>145605213
He's great but shaman is already so good with it's curve minions that it doesn't need control too.

The meta is too fast for control anyway, even top decks like warrior have trouble. Without all the anti aggro it's difficult to counter damage without any reliable heals
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>>145605354
Yet people complain about entomb when priest is complete garbage, old shaman tier

I don't understand how people think sometimes.
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>kolento drawing badly 3 times in a row against a literal noone from no team

rngstone
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>>145604315
>>145604517
It's okay, Cult Master Meme Magic prevails yet again
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who /just crafted a golden Hemet/ here?

feels so fucking good man
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>>145605872
No that person just has more skill than kolento. Stop trying to blame rng when there is none
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>>145605872
>e-celeb wins tourney
>see guys hearthstone is complete skill
>e-celeb loses tourney
>hearthstone is complete rng
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>>145606354
>e-celeb wins tourney
>hearthstone is complete rng
>e-celeb loses tourney
>hearthstone is complete rng
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what's the best control type deck to play against aggro/midrange shamans? I queued up against 4 shamans in a row
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>>145606584
>Control decks
LUL

Wallet warrior is the only one that works now.
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>>145606584
What rank are you? I'm rank 8 right now and in my 10 games 4 were warrior 4 were hunter
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>>145606768
I haven't played in awhile, but does wallet warrior require C'thun to be viable now? I really hate that faggot.
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>>145606879
5
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>>145607003
Huh hopefully it shifts back to shaman for me as I climb then

When I was running into alot of shaman I played dragon warrior with bhb
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>>145606881
No there's lists that work without, they usually run big threats like rag, rafaam, ysera as late game lie they did before.

There's c'thun variants too that are more on fatigue/stall because of the armor gain
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thanks chris
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My thoughts on this brawl

God tier: Priest
Amazing tier: Warrior, Mage
Bretty good m8: Pali, Druid
Bleh tier: Warlock, Rogue
Bad tier: Hunter
Nigga what are you thinking tier: Shaman

Come at me bra
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Wing of Blackrock with Chromaggus

or

7 Packs

What do I do?
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>>145607531
Do you want to play tempo mage? Wing.

If not, packs.
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The brawl is literally build a legendary deck 2.0
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>First old gods legendary was hogger on my main
>First on my alt is hogger
It's fucking anub'arak and tgt all over again. I got him on both of them too.
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>>145607854
This brawl has literally been done before, chump.
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>>145607854

I DED all my wild cards so I hate deck building brawls. If you have alexstraza then Alex/mage is pretty good as you can get the 15 damage in over a couple turns usually.

I just won by stalling with mirror images and hitting the last 15 with hero power, frost bolt, fireball, north sea cracken and i got a hit in with a 4 attack minion.
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>>145607612
Is tempo mage even viable anymore?
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>>145607976
I got Huhu on both my accounts but at least she is pretty :v
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>>145608130
meme mage with yogg. Mage isn't in a very good place. I'd say packs but I know how hard it is to save for adventures so do what you will anon.
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>>145608130
Not really with all the warriors and warlocks running around, and the Shaman matchup is a coinflip without having Flamecannon and it's ilk
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>>145605707
Doomhammer didnt make certain matchups unlose-able for Shaman like Entomb does for Priest
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>>145605707
>>145608857
This, priest is bad overall but it's really polarizing in its matchups. You can make decks that win 80% of the time versus aggro and decks that win 80% of the time versus control.
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>patron in this brawl

Watching druids, shamans, warriors and paladins concede is pretty fun.
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i don't know if i should feel lucky that i got a golden or sad that i'll probably never use him
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I farmed 12 wins in 35 minutes with homebrewed miracle list twicked to win the brawl. Literally easy wins vs everything i played against.
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what is the most BORING deck?

is it zoo? it has to be zoo
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well that was an easy 4-0

drawing your deck in 3 turns is the best kind of feel
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>>145605707
Powerlevel of the class doesn't matter, it can still have overpowered cards like shaman and priests show. Your perception of right card design is flawed. If class is weak it's only natural to help it and it's sleeper OP cards would jump from unused to metashifting and abusive with class revival. And then you have to nerf the class as a whole because you released several broken cards that didn't have a chance to carry the class. All in all, everybody loses, other classes loses, meta and diversity loses, weak class loses in the long run if it's not Metzen's sweet baby like shaman.

I can't agree with people who cry "cancer" about strong decks and think weak classes with sleeper cards can't be hibernating cancer.
It's pathetic.
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>>145610315
I think Zoo is the least boring with possibly Shaman being the absolute most braindead shit in the world. Face Hunter is super mindless. Secret Paladin was infinitely boring because you hit curve most of the time and won
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>>145610315
Shaman and old Secret Paladin (rest in piss)
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>>145610705
Correct answer was control warrior. Thanks for playing, cuck.
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>>145610705
how is zoo the least boring

they play 1 of 3 things turn one, then they play 2 of those things, then an imp gang boss, then PO and leeroy when you're low
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>>145610315
Zoo

I hate facing it and hate playing it.

I dread having to play this shitty deck at the end of every month just to get rank 5 easy.

N'zoth paladin is up there too it's such a bore to face and play, even control warrior is more interactive.
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this minion looks balanced.
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>>145611163
You obviously haven't played Zoo you shitfaced little kike.
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>>145611471
Gets removed by deadly shot, polymorph, C'Thun, Execute, Bloodfen Raptor.
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So does Blizzard realize the new player experience is go into casual with your little free deck and get absolutely raped by netdecks? I'm seriously wondering how they keep new players at this point. Maybe they just make bank off the already established userbase?
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>>145611803
you cant keep new players in a p2w game.
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I only enjoy playing hunter
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should i craft rag or indiana jones next? i want to get my core classic leggos done
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>>145612459
jones and tbk are good tech cards.
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Watch and Learn

CrabCakes#1917

pls assist
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>Lifecoach plays over 150 games with N'zoth Rogue in Legend
>doesn't play against a single Priest
>"It's not that interesting, Priest is pretty much a bad class. But I've never seen, in the past we've played 150 games, and there is one class that is simply refused to be played."
D E A D
E
A
D

Priest is finished. Done. Toast. Fucked. Get your shit together, Brode. This is not acceptable.
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>>145611803
I just started on another account and I've encountered no netdecks so far, 25-20 and casual.

It must do with your elo and after a while you start encountering them.
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>>145612589
added in africa
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>>145612589
Added on Jupi-
>>145612685
fuck
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>>145612631
>Priest is finished
So was Shaman. They'll get their turn
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>>145612631
>Priest is finished. Done. Toast. Fucked.
Good
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>>145612631
>Priest is even deader than old shaman
>It was tier 2 and the best control deck just 1 expansion ago
Lightbomb really killed it, It should have been moved to classic.
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>>145611485
I agree it's very non-linear

>>145611163
it's very non-linear, reminds me of a white weenie deck style with multiple win cons and field manipulation + combos makes it very interesting
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>>145612589
added in another dimension were you dont have the watch and learn
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>>145612659
You might be right, I was just fucking around with basic cards on an established account.
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if c'thun is dead, and you play two doomcallers, do you get a second c'thun in your deck?
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>Actually see a hunter running dreadscale
Damn son you retarded.
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>>145613245
Well, a doomcaller has to be played before the other, and because the first revives it, the second won't trigger. Unless it bugs out
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>>145612631
It's only because my tier one naga priest hasn't caught on yet
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>t1 archthief
>t1 jaraxxus
>t2 10/10 raffam
Lol okay
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>>145613245
No
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>>145613504
i figured, but i wasn't sure if it was like resurrect where it just checks if it ever died and never removes it from the pool.
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>>145613245
>>145613504
If you have Brann Bronzebeard out and play 1 Doomcaller you get 2 shuffled into your deck
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Playing arena at 3 AM is fucking devilish, everyone is pretty bad.
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wheres the new nudes?
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>>145604815
He's actually really good for new players with small collections, but a lot people get rekt because they hang their entire deck on one card. You need the second wing of LoE, but a deck building strategy that works with basically any class is:

>Removal and class staples
Northshire Cleric, SW Pain, etc

>C'Thun Package
2 Beckoner, 2 Elder, 2 Disciple, C'Thun himself

>Battlecry Value Package
Brann Bronzebeard, 2 Jeweled Scarab, 2 Tomb Spider, 1 Young Brewmaster, fill in a reasonable curve with other cards like Razorfen Hunter, Dark Iron Dwarf, Defender of Argus, etc. Worth noting that Frostwolf Warlord and C'Thun both benefit from Brann.

>Taunt and curve filling
All my C'Thun decks have at least one Shieldmasta, the 6/8 taunt, and the 3/6 C'Thun taunt. Depending on class and collection a lot of different things can sneak in here.

I understand there's a competitive deck that looks something like this, but for quest grinding in causal mode you can just use whatever you happen to have. Jizzing all over your opponent with C'Thun is fun, but think of it as plan B unless he's in your hand. You're generally favored in a long game so grind out value and trade away dudes.
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>>145612751
>>145612851
>>145613508
what Priest needs is to be redefined as a class. They need to drop the dumb mind control/stealing shit which, from a WoW lore perspective, was only a characteristic of shadow priests, and move Priest toward being the value class.

They should function like the Protoss do in SC2. Their units are costly and slow, but they outvalue Terran and Zerg minions per mineral/gas spent and win games through sheer efficiency, rather than through raw numbers. Priest already has the tools to be a value class i.e. all their buffs, high health minions, and Hero Power but they can never move in that direction as long as shit like Mind Control and Entomb exists, it would be seriously over powered. Some mind control is okay, like the Cabal where it's very limited and costly, but it's not something that should have ever defined the class.

They need to be redone from the ground up, imo.
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>>145606584
>what's the best control type deck to play against aggro/midrange shamans?
Zoo.
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Gotta love the retarded hunters still running doomsayers. Maybe you should think back and try to remember if that card has EVER actually done something worthwhile in your deck.
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>>145614175
I swear to fucking G*D m8
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>>145614385
Not my fault you're a stupid child that's never actually played zoo.
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>>145614157
I agree priest needs to have their own cards instead of getting more lol steals your opponents ones. It has nothing going for it, no win condition, just focused on removal.
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Another p2w brawl, I just wanna do my quests :(
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>>145614283
>seizing board control on a deck that wins through board control
>a bad thing
???
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>>145614283
The fact even hunters are running doomsayer tells you how shit and aggro infested the meta has become.

Next adventure and expansion they really need to push anti aggro a lot more than they have till now. Losing what we had in gvg/naxx and getting no decent replacements was a stupid design choice when aggro was already so relevant back then.
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>>145614519
>>145614157

Should I hold on to my Velen and priest cards for the inevitable overbuff do you think? Or is he dustible? Same for Cenarius and Al-Akir?
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kek, someone just played the reddit rhino against me. Got his dumb ass stampeding kodo'd
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>>145614879
I know this is probably bait but back when shit was real with aggro you couldn't afford to play a doomsayer because if you didn't draw it turn 2 it would never be playable.
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I think I just won my first game as Miracle Rogue. Can't remember if I ever did it before.
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neutral is bad, I think certain classes should specialize in it. Having way too efficient healing for all class makes it an almost auto-include
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>>145610381
Made the deck. Really like it. Easy wins and the games are kinda funny.
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>>145614889
Cenarius and winds are seeing play now so it's up to you.

I personally don't dust legendaries even if they're shit and would say keep hold of them unless you REALLY need the dust
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Why are there so many hunters in this brawl? If it's the meta I've been dunking on all of them with priest.
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HEY FREEZING TRAP JUST GETS PLAYED AROUND WHADDA FUCK
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>>145615021
Much like now? If you don't draw it early it becomes a dead card/7 health taunt because they can easily remove it.
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>It's another /hsg/ attempts to theorycraft even though they're the most irrelevant HearthStone community with very few legend tier players (and no, getting to legend with your face shamans doesn't count.)
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>>145615306
It is a really good card against warrior or in general decks that rely on 1 powerful minion. With a timely Doomsayer you have an effect like mirror image as mage, it delays a malkorok one turn etc. Your goal with this is to reach turn 8 with a farvored board state or tempo win and then go for call of the wild and win from there. It really makes sense and not only against aggro.
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>>145613929
zeriyah nudes i mean
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How is call of the wild balanced?
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>>145615995
It's not
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>>145615995
Because its a Hunter class card
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>>145615521
>you need to be at the highest level to have an insightful opinion on anything

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
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>>145615995
You faggots will bitch about anything. Chillwind Yeti OP!
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>>145616382
Yeti was gross on turn 4
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>>145615995
It's super suffering that blizzard doesn't understand that it's better to distribute the power of a deck over more cards and instead is okay with just trying to bandage a deck by throwing in an overbuffed card after realising they fucked up the class card design
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>finally starting to win games by grabbing the board and putting pressure on my opponent instead having to win off huge auctioneer turns
Miracle is fun. I should have started learning it sooner, wins feel so rewarding.
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>>145616382
>turn 2
>innervate yeti
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>>145616574
post list
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Why are people playing pirate warrior over a real aggro deck like shaman?
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>>145616574
Getting outskilled by drawing cards with spells

Shadowstep leeroy was 10x more fun
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>>145616747
themed decks are 100% not cancer
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>>145616636
>Turn 1
>Coin, Innervate, Yeti
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>>145616747
It's fun.
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>>145594558
Their burst is actually pretty mediocre outside of Crackle which was way more busted than people gave it credit.

Their aoe however, is easily best in the game. They also have the most spells that can potentially become broken as fuck in future sets.
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>>145616874
>Yeti was the best 4 drop minion in the game

Things used to be so simple.
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>>145601885
He's the perfect counter to 477 on an empty board.
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>>145617073
>During the Alpha phases of Hearthstone the design team had a simple goal for neutral minions
>Odd-mana cost meant they had text that counter-balanced their awesome stats or shit stats
>Even-mana cost meant they had little or no text and a solid stat-line
>Class specific cards naturally broke this rule to show why class cards are better


>Knife Juggler was the first step down the road of ruining this idea
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>>145616747
Because it's a better Aggro deck?

Aggro Shaman in it's latest iteration is just a bad Midrange Shaman. While older builds of Aggro Shaman really hurt from not having Crackle and playable Leper Gnome.
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>>145617374
flame juggler
huge toad

those are the only crazy nuetrals left for 2 drops

however gvg had alot more more
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Orc players are faggots.

Only human character players allowed.
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>>145617374
I don't think I'd like this at all.

On odd numbered turns you would, more often than not, expect some kind of weird minion being dropped on the board whose card text you'd have to deal with. On even numbered turns you would mostly expect big, vanilla fatties coming down to start dominating the board. A more interesting turn would be some combination of odd/even creature.

I think this would add a sort of bland repetition to the game that would get old really fast. I wouldn't want to associate turns with card text, I'd rather just associate them with commonly used minions or spells like it is now.
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Can you make better cards than this redditor?

https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/4oa362/go_west_young_brode_a_300card_fanmade_expansion/

Reminder that they take inspiration from OC and that a lot of this will be considered by them.
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>>145600587

"Nigga, your kid is a literal nigga, woof!"
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>opponent used arcane missiles, its okay i have lots of board theres no way it will snipe my 3 hp minion-
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>>145614157
The issue with that is buffs are... generally bad. Priest has a lot of buffs, none of them are ever going to be played other than PW:S, and even that is honestly pretty borderline.

Right now, Priest is as far from being a value class as any in Hearthstone. They have almost no card that 2-for-1s, they are filled with situational cards, and they lack strong proactive plays.

I think shifting all of that, would be the wrong move as you are basically making Priest something like Druid. It makes the class too similar to another.

The best way for them to go forward with Priest would be to make it a class about 'Denial'. While I'm sure Brode & Co. are far too insistent on making sure my opponent feels good (he doesnt) while he loses, having Priest be the Prison class would make sense.

Cards that raise mana costs, cards that prevent minions from attacking, cards that prevent more than 1 card being played per turn, etc...

It's an archetype that is completely nonexistent and would allow Priest to leverage it's situationallness by locking your opponent out from doing anything other than playing into your removal/aoe/etc. Or you can just play lockpieces and then beat them with like Holy Champion and other midrange goodstuff creatures.
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>>145618590
WOW!! A 4 MANA 3/4 WITH +1 SPELL DAMAGE? FORGET OGER MAGI IM USING THIS IN MY DRUID DECK!!
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>>145618883
>it's a "I have a board full of 1/1s but Rag is going to hit my face for lethal anyway" episode
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>>145619150
What the fuck are you talking about? What other buffs does priest have besides tentacles? (No PW:G is not a buff, its primary use is on enemy minions)
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>>145618590
That card's immensely overpowered. Turn 2 3/4 windfury should never have a possibility of occurring.

How about something simple. 2 mana 3/3 for priest, text reads "You cannot heal your minions"
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>>145619150
>Cards that raise mana costs, cards that prevent minions from attacking, cards that prevent more than 1 card being played per turn, etc...
This is exactly what Brode is so vehemently against, though. He and his team have stated numerous times that they don't like disruption mechanics in Hearthstone which is probably why we never got, and never well get, a replacement for Loatheb in the future. Loatheb was pretty mild on the disruption end since it only lasted for a single turn so I never saw a problem with it and hopefully we get something like it down the road, however unlikely that may be.

>locking your opponent out from doing anything other than playing into your removal/aoe/etc
I've never played Magic so maybe this is a deck archetype there, but holy shit this sounds like hell on Earth and if this were a thing then the mere sound of "vs Anduin!" would make me rage.

I don't know how to fix Priest, but something needs to be done in the next expac. At the very least just give them their OWN, RELIABLE WIN CONDITION. I think that's at least a good place to start fixing this mess.
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>>145619351
I like the idea but the +1 stat doesn't justify such a downside. It's Silithid Swarmer/Argent Watchman all over again blizzard really needs to learn that.

It should really at least have totem golem stats. +2 stats to curve justifies bad downsides like that.

>>145619163
>>145619351
Some seem op, some seem bad but they seem solid for the most part and I could see them being actual cards in the game.
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