>What is BDO?
Black Desert Online is an MMORPG by Pearl Abyss that was recently released for western audiences, with additional changes. It's a sandbox MMORPG that features action-oriented combat, open world PVP territory control, trading, player housing, and more.
Info from the site: http://i.imgur.com/r7VvB6h.png
>Discord
https://discord.gg/0vYcIJNhxt5cd4pK (join at your own risk)
>/bdog/ guilds
http://pastebin.com/eagGG3KB
>Guides
http://pastebin.com/VH3XrCYb
>Maps and nodes
http://blackdesertfoundry.com/map/#4/-8.89/-25.22
http://www.blackdeserttome.com/map/
http://bdomap.mmoguild.org/
>Useful Links
Wiki: http://www.blackdeserttome.com/wiki/BDO_Tome
Database: http://bddatabase.net/us/
Skill Calculator: http://www.blackdeserttome.com/calculator
Class Armor Sets: http://wodox.imgur.com/
Else: Google it before posting
>BDO KR/JP info + differences between NA/EU
http://pastebin.com/P2YqnsCX
Previous thread: >>144968186
sardine
>>145392641
yo whatsup
Let's have a old fashioned Post Waifu! Rate Waifus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqmnOnn0HBw
Neat
>>145392641
Is Sardine NA Edan?
>>145393854
http://pastebin.com/eagGG3KB
>>145393854
EU Jordine
8th for CUTEST bdog couple
>>145394087
>tfw you will never have the conqueror's outfit
>>145321876
>be tan lanket valkyrie with no tits or ass
>ask guy out
>rejected, says that he needs a woman with some meat
>decide to go to stables and work out
>can't even squat lmao1donkey
>stable keeper is such a sweet, charming guy, I greet him everytime I go to stables.
>food at the inn sucks and the cook keeps telling me to get out of his kitchen even though I'm right at the counter
>try my hand at cooking so I can manage my macros
>fail so many times and get these weird dishes
>finally have enough amity with stable keeper that he gives me a quest
>retrieve his carefully polished necklace
>THIS IS IT. We've known each other for quite some time, I'll ask him out after I complete his quest.
>finally retrieve necklace. The amount of care put in to this reveals a bit of his sensitive side. That makes him even more charming
>find engraving on the necklace
>turns out he's in love with the vendor who has a stall next to his stable
>fml
>give pendant, spill spaghetti, run.
>cook some beer at home and drink myself to a stupor
>decide to move and forget about everything
>move to Heidel, get a place, do some quests, squat lmao1donkey, practice cooking
>rinse, repeat
>some dude is willing to exchange milk for my failed dishes
>yeahokay
>says there's some special hormone in the milk, it can make any dish taste great and it'll give me some gainz
>drink milk
>estrogen spikes, get tits, get ass, make gainz
>squat lmao2donkey, then later 2horse, then later 2wagon
>do some questing, cooking improves
>get tired of the grind, decide to take a break
>this demihuman stable keeper tells me about a ball
>get excited and make a meal fit for a lord for my date after the ball
>did not have enough shekels for cash shop dress
>go to ball anyway
>get called fat
>get called orange
>spill my spaghetti
>run home
>candle is lit
>other seat is empty
>turkey is cold
>ham is cold
>soup is cold
>fruits are made of wax
>my hands are clipping through my thighs
when will this suffering end?
>>145394565
I'm amazed.
>>145394087
>tfw 40 year old chain smoker actually cat fish someone in.
>>145394565
I'm not reading all that shit, I'm guessing it's ERP faggotry, do that in guide chat, orange pig.
Will we ever recover?
>>145399853
Nope. I'll stay here though, even though I don't have a character over level 30.
>>145392923
its too bad you can't adjust the ankle girth
>>145400489
are you spending your time just crafting and what not?
>>145392371
is this game ded or worth getting into at this point?
>>145403683
Only the thread is dead, people post in their guild discords and shit.
>>145403758
Did discord kill the thread, Is this why none waifu posts here anymore?
>>145402562
I obviously spend my time making cat pngs.
>>145404085
poorly making cat pngs
>>145404085
because thats what I've been spending my time on. Fuck levelling, I need to make beer for my workers so they can gather resources and I can make furniture to make my residence look pretty.
>>145404280
I can't into paint
tfw Baka is dead
>>145404354
Pretty residences are nice. Bonus point for comfy.
>>145405028
that's because discord is shit for audio
its only use is a glorified slack replacement right now
>200 beer combines only gets me 1% exp now
SEND HELP
>game about autism grinding
>it doesn't even feel rewarding
For what purpose? Even Diablo 3 grinding feels better than this, because at least you can get an upgrade every few hours. Instead I get a fucking chance of gaining 3 AP.
>>145405028
>tfw ywn hear burrito stunt
>>145406793
your upgrades still net you 3ap? lucky fucker
I have to grind ~40 hours for a chance at +2 at this point
>>145407403
Yeah, I'm usually one that enjoys autism grinding too, so I thought this game would be perfect for me. The combination of joining late and the shitty reward system just makes me want to die.
>>145407810
I took a one month break in may. Now they fixed witch earring drop rate. Grinding far spread monsters for days to get a chance of 2 ap. Game is fun.
>>145392371
Someone point me in the right direction
Says a few NA guilds are in Edan but there are like 10 different thinks to "enter"
Which one do I click, Velia, Balenos etc
(I just finished installing the game)
>>145410298
Theses are channels
Basically, the world is divided in instances, from which you can swap every 15 minutes
>>145410470
So I shouldn't worry about it because I can change it or it will change?
>>145407810
I put a few thousand hours into Diablo2. I've got ~800 hours in Dark Souls 1.
Pushing 1.5k hours in BDO currently.
The issue with this game's grind is that it's a double-hitter of grind + fuckyoukorean rng.
If it was just grind for a guaranteed result, it'd be just fine. If it was just rng with a shitload of drops, it'd be fine too.
But it's a ton of grind with a ton of rng involved.
I've got abandoned monastery at level 9, every shadow knight is S-rank knowledge. I've got 8 luck just in case the character sheet lies about 5 being the cap.
I've been down there for 20 hours so far this week and haven't gotten a SINGLE FUCKING MARK drop.
That's just soul crushing.
>>145410298
>>145410550
Server is the only thing that matters, you can freely swap between channels with any of your characters every 15 minutes.
>>145410623
I want a game that actually gets Hardcore right. Nothing gives me a fear/adrenaline boner like dropping to 5% HP in a pack of monsters, only to come out just barely on top.
>even /w*g/ is more active than this
>>145411634
the last game I played that felt right like that was, amusingly enough, Darkfall Online (the original, not the re-release)
terribly grindy game, and a terrible game in retrospect, but godDAMN the first ~6 months was some of the most intense MMO play I've ever experienced
>>145412530 >>145411634 >>145410623
I just want an MMO with the economy, industry, territory control and full-loot systems of EVE, a fantasy setting, and controls/combat mechanics like dark souls
is that really too much to ask?
>>145412823
How would combat mechanics like Dark Souls work in an MMO format? That game is a complete joke with more than 1 player.
>>145413037
by mechanics I mean moreso action/fighter mechanics
dodging, blocking, weapon arcs (no tab targeting bullshit), etc
I want combat to feel like combat, not spamming the fkeys/number keys until it's dear or I'm dead
>>145413910
You should take more picture with Jif
I have around 110 titles currently.
What's the best way to get more? I want more luck!
>>145414304Jif quit.
Out of curiosity how long did it take you guys to create your first character?
There are so many parts to edit on the face...
>>145414406
CUTE!
Have any more?
>>145414380
The grind x mobs are by far the easiest and most plentiful titles to farm. Gets you some extra energy if you're missing knowledge on them, too.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EbKiboNFg5V5zXc8tCmlCppx-cwCivt_Hf6IpWmPr6A/edit#gid=0
>>145414772
Default faces were quite fine, just edited like 4 parts and masked that shit up and I was good.
>>145414824
talking to all npcs of (type) in (region) is really easy too, and quicker than killing thousands of random fucking mobs, some of which spawn in low numbers
>>145413238
well, black desert isn't like that at all, it's not tab targeting, knowing your combos matter and knowing what each skill can and cannot do, animation cancels, etc, is very important
>>145415042
I have a lot of those done, I have balenos and serendia. Calpheon is a lot harder, and don't get me started on knowledge that you need but can only be obtained through amity except the dude you need to do the amity game with is impossible to gain amity from so the only solution is to wave at him which rapes my energy.
>>145415059
follow the conversation bruv, nobody was talking about Black Desert
>>145413238
Yeah, but how do you even make the game compelling to play past the end game in that system? The Souls games don't have any skills or attributes, so the combat gets repetitive after a while. I played the first 2 games and already got bored of the combat style. The AI is too easy to manipulate once you learn their patterns, they only have a few animations, 2-3 for melee range, 1 for medium range, and 2-3 for long range, and you can always force them to do those animations by standing at the certain ranges. For an MMO you'd need to make an insane number of animations if you wanted to do the same thing for monsters, it's just completely impracticle for something players will learn to manipulate and get bored of anyway.
>>145418023
>battle going on
>"oh lemme take a selfie real quick!"
>>145418023
I like my girls a bit shorter.
Your eye color is shit.
You have weird ghost hair going on.
FotM class.
Shiny template face.
0/10 - would not fug
>>145418912
How dare you insult my wifu!
>>145419934
ur waifu a ugly slut
>>145392923
fapfiction
whenI think that anon will not deliver and they have broken my heart
The pirate event stuff(Bandana and Eyepatch) are character bound or family bound?Here's a qt for you guys.
>>145422756
family
post a anime girl next time fagot
So how does Tamer work?
Do you actually get to tame any monsters and fight with them or what?
>>145422810sorry, I dont have alot of anime saved, here's Kuruminha for you.
>>145422992
please don't post br trash fake animes ever again
>>145421328
I can carry your unfulfilled dreams for you if it makes it any better. Just put them right there in the bag with the others.
>>145423036
sorry the other anon is so shit
hopefully this makes up for it
>>145423303
it does, illya is cute
>>145394565
Reading this makes me feel like coming back, hope you're on Edan.
>>145424302
Isn't that the Sardine poster with all the other huge roid rages
>>145424672
Not sure, I've been gone ~a month.
If so oh well.
>>145424672
Sadly, no.
>>145422884
Anyone? I'm guessing I can't tame a horse and have it kick the shit out of goblins.
>>145427413
No, you only have this wolf partner you can summon.
>>145423237
You carry the heaviest burdens, so we don't have to
Bless anon
>get me some workers
>meet work supervisor. rugged face, strange accent, blunt, very manly
>always greet him, always warns me not to stir up trouble and something about taxes and standing up to Calpheon
>given me 3 green workers out of the 5 that I've hired
>think he treats me differently from other clients
>asks me to investigate cannons one day, clients complaining
>turns out his workers are lazy liars
>asks me to gather iron ore
>HELL YEAH time to impress work supervisor
>mine more ore than he asked for
>tells me to have them processed by the female blacksmith in plaza
>talks about her pretty, white, little hands
>I look down at my hands
>tan
>big and calloused from combat and deadlifting wagons
>go to plaza and give female blacksmith iron ore
>cute, petite, necklace that accentuates her cleavage
>I can't compete with this
>ask what type of men she likes, she says she never thought about it but likes 'manly men' like the pretty boy grand chamberlaine
>report back to work supervisor, don't want to see him down so I don't tell him about her preferences
>later get a quest from storage keeper, the bane of work supervisor's existence
>says work supervisor can't hold his drink
>says work supervisor hasn't dated a girl and has been in love with female blacksmith for a year
>tells me to give female blacksmith a poem he had a clown wrote say it was from storage keeper
>ufuknsrs a clown? this is not gonna go well
>decide to do it because I want storage keeper's infatuation with female blacksmith to end
>it fukin works, she says she'll meet him at the plaza at 10 in the morn
>I fucked myself over
>tell work supervisor about it
>breaks his composure, thinks he should wear suit of armor for the date
>storage keeper, work supervisor's most hated, is the biggest bro
>I've been manipulated to playing cupid
>go home while picking up the pieces of my broken heart
>cry myself to sleep
>owl by my bedside mimics my sobs, the little shit
Is it time to move to another city again?
>>145424672
not him
>>145424302
Got memed by /bdog/ to go on Orwen. I've yet to have a clue what I'm fucking doing but I've more silver than I know what to do with at the very least.
>>145429413
What is your problem with Orwen?
>>145429236
I have to wonder how other people see your character 'cause their clients can't break slider limits. Most likely as a tan lanket valkyrie with no tits or ass.
>>145429413
Oh, that's too bad.
I played on Orwen a little the first week, it had the least memes but the guild drama on Edan was too fun to ignore.
Well surely you'll find a nice manly man, stay strong!
>>145430603
I restored the games default .paz files one time and it was just the regular valk with height and body type sliders set to max, I assume that's what everyone else sees. It is strange though that everytime I'm in the character select menu, it shows up at first with the default valk body.
>>145429934
Nothing really, but from the /bdog/ threads is just seems like people from edan are the ones who're still playing.
this game isn't fun
>there are now multiple pigposters
>they get more and more ridiculous
>the newest one is already nothing but a caricature of a human being
>>145429236
every time I see your character I have a laughing fit. then I realized people are actually attracted to shit like this and I vomit
>>145418518
She reminds me of someone famous,but I can't remember who.
>gender locks on classes
>race lock on beserker and ranger
>age lock on male wizard
Why the age lock of all things. I wanted to make my husbando wizard...
>>145431832
I find it to be comfy so far.
>>145433535
I hope you're kidding, old men are literally the most attractive.
>>145433836
Middle aged men > sleazy old man
I don't want a knight with wrinkles
I want a wizard In his 40s dammit
How bad is it?
I actually wanted to play as a Sorceress but sorceress isn't an """""""""""""elf"""""""""""
>>145434280
>I have to play an elf to have fun
Die of AIDS you dumb slut
>>145434280
You can make sorcs have pointy ears too if that's what you were looking for. I don't really understand.
>>145434337
What? I play as an elf Hunter/ranger in 99% of every MMO I've played. Been doing it since WoW not going to stop now. (Exclude FFXIV because elezen aren't cute)
I love elves don't deny them of me. I even play tabletops as elves.
>>145434506
It has to be a legitimate elf and the ears don't come out too great either.
If anyone has a spare guest pass I need that shit rn.
>>145434527
elves are for _______.
>>145435046
Purity
>>145434648
There's really nothing different about the legitimate elves in this game, they're all humans with pointy ears.
>>145435046
>>145434337
>>145434527
>>145434280
>tfw want to be ranger and be qt elf maiden
>having too much fun as plum
;_;
Friend mentioned he might start playing soon, and Ive been interested for a bit due to the combat apparently not being shit
is it worth getting into the game?
>>145440209
It's not as bad as people make it out to be a lot of people just got burnt out before the content they wanted to actually do came out(which literally comes tomorrow)
>>145440209
I think it's fun.
>>145440338
what's tomorrow
>>145440741
Valencia patch
supposed to add valencia content, node wars, ninja and kunoichi class
>>145433535
Don't worry because once you get in-game everybody will look like a bush and you won't care about character creation anymore.
>>145442683
Valencia isn't coming tomorrow, just node wars.
>>145440741
Don't listen to >>145442683
Tomorrow we're getting node wars, and Valencia patch (which increases map size by about 65%) will be released by the end of the month
anyone got a spare guest pass?
Holy shit, im at Alch Prof 8 and the xp curve just shot up.
Grinding powders and reagants is gonna be a pain in the ass to alch 1.
>>145448645
bump
>>145450583
>>145452872
I'm surprised you're using a natty guy's image.
NPCs!
This game has no fashion without you spending like fucking 90+ dollars on costumes
Vindictus, Tera, Warhammer Online etc don't have this problem
>>145456738
then don't play, not hard
I want to die
I want to die
I want to die
I want to get huge so I joined IC
>tfw this game could have been great
Who to blame? DaumEU? Daum Games? Pearl Abyss? Tencent?
>>145463093
daum
tencent hasn't touched this game at all
>game prevents people from playing as a male with gender locks
Why why why why
>>145464140
it prevents playing as female for certain lcasses too
there's no fucking reason why
can't even say laziness because they don't reuse bodies and faces
r8?
trying to go for like a bored smug look
>>145464361
Yeah but it's 4M to 6F
Where the male class gets 2 sword wielders, a mage and a tanky guy
But females get ranged, mage, tamer, 2 sword wielders and another type of mage
And on top of that wizard is age locked and beserker isn't even human. At most ranger should have included a male and female option.
>>145465180
Fix your neck. It looks far too short and her lips don't match because the eyes are TOO smug.
Bored smug look needs squint on both eyes(focus on upper) eyebrows need to curve and be pushed a few units inward, and lips on the corners pushed back, one corner smudged higher
>>145465895
Technically speaking Giants are part of human race in the lore.They hella ugly though.
There was some leaked picture of Archer (aka male ranger), but as it turns out Daum doesn't even plan on working on that.
>>145466105
That's a shame. Can this game be modded?
And are we getting Ninjas(male)?
>>145466294
Yes, but I don't know to what extent.
Yes, but it'll take a while.
>>145466294
>That's a shame. Can this game be modded?
yes, you can freely change textures, don't know about models though
So when will we actually get Kunoichi? I thought their excuse was balance, but the other regions got a ninja/kunoichi balance rework a while back.
>tfw only one out of 20+ friends and guild mates who hasn't silently quit
I feel abandoned and betrayed
>>145468728
When? After Valencia I
Catch up? Will be boosted EXP events
Reason for the delay? Watching rebalancing of Ninja/Kunoichi in KR
http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/91840-june-8-2016-daum-qa-hosted-by-pvtwiggles-ended-answers-from-pm_belsazar/
>>145468931
>Catch up? Will be boosted EXP events
How are we able to "Catch up" if everyone is getting a boosted EXP event? And I'm pretty sure it won't be longer than the current EXP event we got that's been lasting forever.
>>145470171
You're right, it isn't.
>tfw our ridiculously geared guild is now merging with some scrub geared group of people to fill all the empty spots that start to pop up due to the removal of EXP loss
Kek, 2 weeks ago the average AP in our guild was like 150+, now its dropping to 140 or something. Great...
>>145468752
iktf I'd like to have a meltdown on some of these flakers myself but I have to keep up a calm appearance.
>>145468752
>tfw I still have not made any friends in BDO.
>>145471635
What server?
>>145471717
The EU one.
>>145440209
Another question, is the $50 pack worth getting at all?
Don't know what I can actually get through just playing or how much it costs otherwise
>>145471635
>>145471902
Join a guild?
>>145392371
>It's a sandbox MMORPG
>>145471928
The only really useful thing there is the pet which you can get for 10 from the pearl shop ingame, unless you want two guest passes. The 50 pack has two while the 30 pack only has one guest pass.
>>145471635
>>145471635
Do you make an effort to befriend people?
>>145471902
s a r d i n e
>>145471635
if edan join IC
they were really nice to me and I have a group within the guild I constantly party with now
>>145471902
>>145473813
SARDINE
>>145473852
Everyone's gotta be nice 'cause new players are at an all-time low.
>>145474036
I don't know I got bullied out of 2 other guilds and IC seemed to just be really nice guys. SOme of them are really funny too, though a bit too australian at times.
>>145474134
Oh they can absolutely be nice people in general, I was just saying.
>>145472008
>>145473810
I'm in a guild but I'm just having a hard time making friends online.
>>145474852
Tell me of your attempts.
>>145475153
there was this guy in guild that said he liked to rp sometimes, so i whispered him that i wanted to drown in semen and poop from her dicknipples, but he just said gross and ignored me
someone needs to give me a guest pass so i can try this out
>>145477304
I too can lie and seem edgy.
>>145477393
Would if I could. How 'bout you just buy it though? It's not very expensive.
>>145477534
I'm sure we all understood it as a joke post by someone not this nofriends mofo even without specifically pointing it out.
>>145477608
Man I don't know, It looks good but I'm still not sure if I'm going to stick it out
>>145477894
you need to play like 8+ hours a day or have really good RNG to compete
by play I mean grind
>>145477894
Y'know let's assume you were buying your usual single-player game and you thought this game looked good and it had no guest passes or free trials like they usually don't, would you still pass it by just like that?
>>145478052
I can't understand why some people are always so negative and actively trying to DETER new players, like what're you even here for? Just play something else if you don't like it. Like this one specifically might not have been a negative comment, you might like grinding, but the folks who just trash talk the game through and through.
>>145478337
because people are miserable on this shitty website, they will do what ever they think is "le ebin troll xdd" just to try and fit in with the autists in these threads. thats why literally every other chat board is better.
if you don't want to talk about shit like
>impregnating video game characters
>being a huge homosexual
>whining about something youre not mechanically skilled enough to beat
>crying everytime something isn't designed specifically for you
>how you can't enjoy anything.
>calling a game dead when it loses 1 player
then 4chins is not a place for you.
>>145477393
98A9-7763-CDCD-4834-BF65
you're welcome.
>>145479848
i love you
>>145479912
just a heads up, the games fun when theres more people around, i would go with the most populated realm.
>>145479672
>whining about something youre not mechanically skilled enough to beat
>crying everytime something isn't designed specifically for you
This is literally what reddit and the official forums are about. Entitled degenerates who want the game to cater to their PVE fantasies, who are also too shit to play around mechanics so instead of improving ask for nerfs. Literally what these people do all day.
>>145479912
>>145480297
This means Edan for NA and Jordine for EU. You will absolutely regret it later if you don't have a crew to play with.
>>145479672
Oh, I especially love the "I can't enjoy anything" depressed and "I don't have any friends but I also never tried to make any and am also an undiagnosed autist" groups. Can't get enough of 'em.
Man I'm turning negative myself here.
>>145480419
>>145480297
i must've missed a lot, last time i played Uno veila 1 was the most popular one.
Uno is still has a great population, though I would say Edan has more players overall based on the amount of beer sold there.
Uno has that annoying serial hacker tho, idk if Edan has a like minded cunt.
>>145480419
LF CREW
>>145481728
join IC
>>145481728
join sardine
http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/93180-patch-1506-siege-war-postponed/
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
WHO SAID THEY WONT DELAY IT??
>Infinite Mastery skill series can be now acquired from 50 to 55 instead from 55 to 60.
TOP KEK. No lifers literally BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>>145482015
those patch notes are fantastic holy fuck
literally nothing bad
>>145482224
What's the Experienced Hunter skill tho?
inb4
>+200hp per level 56-60
Casting speed of each level of Meteor Shower has been increased.
Super Armor has been added to Meteor Shower during Front Guard and attack.
Front Guard has been added to Blizzard
Skill Icon for Ultimate: Blizzard has been changed.
Super armor has been added while casting Earthquake.
Lets see what the Wizards say now. Guess frontal block is balanced all of a sudden.
Which NA guild is most fun?
>>145482541
>no ninja
another patch to ignore
tamers are made for breeding
So how full/active are the servers and player base at this point?
>>145484640
jordine right now is was croxus was at launch
so it's okay, i guess
>>145484829
I don't know what that means. I haven't played the game yet but I'm looking for something to invest my autism into, preferably an mmo.
>buffing Wizards
completely fucking retarded
>>145485145
How is that more than a minor buff?
>>145485308
HOW IS A FRONTAL BLOCK ON ALMOST ALL THE BROKEN SKILLS MORE THAN A MINOR BUFF GUYS?
HOW IS A FRONTAL BLOCK ON AN INSTANT AOE CAST THAT APPLIES STIFFNESS MORE THAN A MINOR BUFF GUYS?
HOW IS A REDUCTION OF THE METEOR SHOWER CHANNEL TIME MORE THAN A MINOR BUFF GUYS?
No wonder Wizards complained about being shit for 3 months. You people are so goddamn incompetent that you cant even see how broken your class has been since launch and how big and completely broken these buffs are.
>>145484950
the most popular server right now has the same amount of people as the least popular server had at launch
>>145485551
Reminder that super armor means blocking CC, not blocking damage.
It's also during the casting bar, not during the actual skill.
>>145485653
oh my
that doesn't sound too good
>>145485776
What do you think Front Guard means you fucking cuck? And no, it hasnt only been added to the cast you goddamn nigger. It literally says that Front Guard is permanent for Blizzard and Super Armor has been added for Meteor DURING ITS ATTACK
>just got plum to 53
>thinking about making qt ranger
help me
>>145486008
do it
53 is not that far in
and ranger is better in every single way
>>145486004
Front guard means super armor, it's translated by shitters
Meteor's attack lasts half a second anyway, and I'm 95% certain it's only during blizzard's casting bar period
>>145486202
They are literally using Front Guard and Super Armor as two different terms. Why the hell would they do that if it was the same thing? Why would you use 2 different terms for the same thing in the very same sentence? That doesnt even make any sense.
>>145486379
I'd rather trust korean players than half-assed patch notes
>>145486202
>Super Armor has been added to Meteor Shower during Front Guard and attack.
Super Armor has been added to Meteor Shower during Super Armor and attack.
Front Guard means super armor. So super armor is applied during super armor. Good to know pal :^)
>>145484430
>class is garbage and PA is currently scrapping it completely and remaking it
>people still complain when it's not out in its shitty useless form
>>145486537
I'd guess front guard is the loading bar
>Fixed the issue where 100% critical hit was applied when using Dark Flame during cool down time.
get fucked sorc babbies
Around what time do vg guilds go online? I want to join one of the guilds.
4PM EST for me right now
>>145487495
the only vg NA guild moved on to overwatch
>>145487495
Which guild do you want to join?
>>145487495
>wanting to play with /vg/ in an already dead game
but why
>>145487495
ic is on right now, whisper notjif
>>145487725
IC was my intention
>>145488149
Whispered and hoping for response
>>145488729
if that char isn't on try ablu, deadbeat, browz, or chimpy
>>145488729
It's easiest to just join discord.me/inner_circle on Discord, since people switch characters and you can't pm based on family name.
I'm on "Ablu" right now if you want to pm me in game.
this download is going to take 6 hours fuck
>>145489692
>not having fast internet
Took me 2 lmao
>>145489692
same just bought it, download going to take 3 hours
anywhere I can read up on class comparisons on a tl dr on each?
>>145490254
I usually get 5mb/s but im only getting 1 :-(
>>145490673
>great
ranger sorc maewah valk
>ok
warrior musa
>only good in groups
berserker, wizard, witch
>shit
tamer
this is pvp wise.
>>145490957
what's the difference between maewah and musa? I'm guessing pve tier lists are basically irrelevant
>>145490957
>maewha
>great
kek
Do things like Sute Tea and Silver Clothes affect the life skill exp you get from quests?
>>145491010
maewah has a single target attack that does a lot more damage than the musa's aoe version of the same attack
>>145489692
>>145490254
>>145490673
>>145491334
you poor soul
>>145491201
Nice, I was planning on playing her or some other melee class.
>>145491093
what's wrong with her?
>>145490957
You clearly don't play this game, Wizard/Witch is one of the best 1v1 classes as is tamer but most players are garbage.
>>145491449
a simple google will tell you otherwise on the wizard/witch
and as for tamer, 1v1 is literally all she has which barely ever happens in the game, if there is 2 people against you, your pet breaks and you lose indefinetly, please stop misleading new players with your garbage opinion.
>>145486665
Even if it was out in the shitty useless form I could farm combat skill for it when it's no longer worthless.
>>145491649
Don't listen to the forums tamer is really strong atm. And wizard/witch is essentially same as ranger in 1v1.
>>145490673
Go Ranger, they're the best at everything. PVP, PVE and World Bosses where if you die, you chances for loot get hurt. But if you're a ranger you shouldn't be getting hit in the first place so you'll get much more high tier loot than any other class.
>>145491961
well I respectfully disagree with you.
>>145491965
I don't really like playing ranged/magic classes
>>145491649
>>145491914
I don't care about your face, show me your butt.
>>145492239All butts are the same
>>145492753
gross
>>145492753
Even if they're all the same, they're all cute. I want to touch a butt.
>>145492753
Eppu!
what's the competitive pvp level at this point?
What's the stack cap or suggested stacks to try for +2 silver clothes?
>>145494030
Most decent guilds require 56+ or 55+ with 300-310+ ap/dp.
>newbies actually buying the game
lol
>>145495001
>people actually liking what I don't like
lol
>>145494286
how long would catch up take if someone starts playing now?
>>145496591
i'd say about two weeks of really hard grinding, but if you're completely new it would probably take a month, you probably wouldn't get Liverto/Kzarka since they're really hard to get due to biased loot system.
>>145496591
Depends on what you want to catch up on.
If you play the game hard with good knowledge on where to go you could get adequately geared in few weeks. You'll never catch up to the people who have been playing hard since day one tho.
>>145497475
I can poop sock no problem but don't have any prior knowledge of the game. I want to catch up on everyone pvping
>>145497475
This is why I'm glad that, when I get the game, I don't care about getting to top raiding status or whatever.
I just wanna fish and relax. Maybe grind combat stuff occasionally.
>>145494053
same as jewelry
~13-15 should be relatively safe
>>145497475
>You'll never catch up to the people who have been playing hard since day one tho
You just gotta believe
