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Vanu are sanders voting commie edition

>What is this game?
http://pastebin.com/baxwRMDg
>How do I play?
http://pastebin.com/CWn3VQJD
>How do I play? (advanced)
http://pastebin.com/p0ZwzqSu
>Tweaks and optimizations
http://pastebin.com/MEqFBUut
>Weapon stats and vehicle weapons
http://pastebin.com/341Dv7Y6
>Weapons chart some anon made
http://i.imgur.com/HOdhWox.png
>How does the construction system work?
https://www.planetside2.com/news/construction-system-guide-ps2-2016

previously >>144568752
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>>144854104
first for construction system saved the game
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>>144854104
So the devs on the 3rd June stream pretty much confirmed planetside 3
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let it die you fools
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>>144854468

tv/planetside2/v/70343640

they even joke about planetside 4, jessus christ
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>>144854572
it cannot die as long as there's no alternative
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>>144854663
how about a timestamp you shitter
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>>144854338
Post more burger whores
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>>144854871
its worth watching the entire stream, i think it was half way in
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>>144854968
How about more spandex whores?
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>hate green friendly crosshair
>turn it off
>also turns off red enemy crosshair

FUCK YOU DAYBREAK
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>>144856710
I am fine with it as it is
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BENIS
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Xth for global servers soon.
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>>144862353
>killing off briggs, millergrad and hong connery
>only two servers left
This is the end.
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>>144862695
The americans will sure love the new laggers.
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>>144863029
like and subscribe
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What sensitivities do you guys play with?
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>>144865941
62 cm hip 360
124 cm 1x aim 360
who cares about the other optics
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page 10 fugg
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>>144870306
[decline]
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>tfw can't wait for global servers
>finally get to move to memerald from hong connery
>tfw big fights again
>tfw the asians will follow me there
i guess ill still consider it a win
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>>144874217
>g-got any batteries
every time
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>>144877375
and yet you keep saving thumbnails
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Did people really move to that other chan for edgy faggots?
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>>144880053
Only the people who actually play Planetside.
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>>144880053
a couple did
but our post rate is still pretty much the same, so...

>>144880664
people who still play are not relevant, have never been, and will never be.
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>>144880053
Posts like >>144880847 confirm what >>144880664 said, this thread is for shitposting only. If you want to play or discuss the game, you move over to the other chan.
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>>144880053
nope its somehow deder than here
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>>144877375
I made an emerald alt earlier today
tfw no more getting instakilled by other wizards
tfw larger groups of shitters to farm
tfw seemingly less tank spam, and more footzergs

All I need is to get enough pity certs for a 0.75 weapon, so I can properly abuse my own wizardry.

I can't wait for the merge or global servers. It'll be a beautiful day.
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https://www.twitch tv/seph00/v/71250046

Just thought you guys would enjoy the first 30 minutes.
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>>144881024
>If you want to play or discuss the game, you move over to the other chan.

What's there left to discuss after 5 years?
The only thing you really need is to aim better.
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>>144881024
>If you want to discuss the game, you move over to the other chan.
the other chan is L I T E R A L L Y the mong child of /b/ and leddit, no decent discussion will ever take place there.
it's 100% shitposting too, but their shitposting revolves around shit-tier memes and "the VS shotgun is OP compared to the one TR gets, nerf pls"
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>>144882019
i was going to tell you to kys, but
>butchering wwew
post it on cripplechan, and watch how butthurt they'll get :^)
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>>>144882414
memes aside, is there anything actually better than the barrage?
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>>144881024
>>144880664
>samefagging
get out, cripple recruiter
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>>144882640
I played with them a few days ago.

They're definitely extreme shitters, but still, it's nice to have some shitters around to res / resupply / repair you.

Part of me wants to introduce HLVP farm chariots to them, but I don't think they're coordinated enough. None used mics, anyway.

>>144882670
Pump-actions, if you can consistently manage your distance and aim well.
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>>144882414
No, their shitposting revolves around doing it in-game. Which is a fuckload more than can be said about the shitposting here.
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>>144883176
lol
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>>144883176
>No, their shitposting revolves around doing it in-game.

But i'm always shitposting in-game.
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>spawn
>get spawnfarmed
>hurr why k/d
why did they add the k/d anyway?
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>>144887503
Why did you even leave the spawn once you assessed the situation? Why didn't you tell your outfit to redeploy alongside you so you could regroup at another base and collectively push?
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>>144888001
it was just an example
sometimes the right thing to win isn't the best one to get a good k/d ratio
teamgame is teamgame
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>>144888143
The solution I proposed is both the correct one to that situation AND a solution that would preserve your k/d.
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>>144888254
but senpai
i don't even care about K/D
usually i just set some personal objective and pursue it even if i die multiple times in the process, for the sole purpose of c4ing a skillturret or some skillsuit
why should i be treated as a shitter if i don't even try?
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>>144889346
Because that's what a shitter is. You're describing shitter behavior. You're a shitter.
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>>144889435
so not being a tryhard is being a shitter?
right now i'm playing in a situation that requires medium to long range weapons
i just don't feel like playing medic or HA, let alone infilth
i just want to get the LA shotgun cert and this is getting me killed over and over again
i'm not a shitter anon, i am somewhat above average in every fps i played that isn't TF2, i'm just tired of having to play the flavour of the situation class
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>>144889823
>situation inappropriate for shotguns
>try using a shotgun anyway
You have only yourself to blame.
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>>144889823
m8
dying like a shitter while getting nothing done means you're a shitter
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>>144890704
what does stroking my dick over a meaningless number do?
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>>144891058
>I literally do not know how to masturbate
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>>144854663
>that entire stream

what the FUCK guys

where is the fucking hype?

>CAPTURE THE FLAG CORES
>MODULAR ARMOR
>ROCKLET RIFLE IS F R E E and goes in the fucking TOOL SLOT
>MORE CONSTRUCTION SHIT
>FUCKING O R B I T A L S T R I K E, and its ACTUALLY WELL THOUGHT OUT
>VEHICLE HACKING
>POSSIBLE BASTION/COLOSSUS
>DAYBREAK ARE H I R I N G AND NOT ACTUALLY DED

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHY IS THIS GENERAL NOTHING BUT SHITPOSTING ABOUT DEMOLITIONDERBYCHAN
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PPA vs Photon Pods for killing infantry? I'm having a hard time telling the difference.
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>>144890704
>>144890175
wathever, i guess the fun is over
what is better, the default trac-5 or the T5 AMC?
any specific playstyle so i can masturbate over a number no one cares about?
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>>144892832
none of this shit is any good though
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>>144893081
Don't worry, you get to do 800 more shotgun kills on the next tier :^)

TRAC-5 is medium DPS, short-medium range, T5 AMC is low DPS, long range. Personally I've always hated the TRAC-5's recoil, so I like the AMC better.
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>>144892832
>where is the fucking hype?
>more meh unnecessary shit

I'm gonna get hyped when they introduce Biolab/Tower only continent or remove boltshitting.
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>>144894172
>always hated the TRAC-5's recoil,

Lol what recoil, it has no recoil
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>>144894172
thanks
you don't scare me with the grind, i came over from war thunder
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>>144894192
>>144893986
when was the last time they even teased this much shit?

seriously, are none of you at the very least glad that they are actually rehiring people and getting to work on undedding ps2?
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>>144894989
more content doesn't mean it will be good content
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>>144893081

Honestly, don't worry about these kids.

Almost every person here who unironically uses the word "shitter" is just trying to compensate for the fact that their daddy doesn't love them.

There's a reason their fathers either left them or don't love them.
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>>144895114
More content is better than no content.
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>>144892832

Because it's all vaporware bullshit that is being used to tease people into continuing to subscribe under the vague hope that the game isn't ded.
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>>144895114
>>144896721
>hating on more content
>thinking it wont happen

yeah guys the ANT is never going to come out and even if it does it's gonna be total shit and totally not revive the game and make it more interesting
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stumbles onto warframe reddit. Top post from our boy fagen, spreading his taint to another game in the form of cosmetics.

Are we free now?
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>>144894172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3RlThggQnc
is this video still valid?
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>>144854104
Does that mean NC are Trump and TR are Hillary? Or would it make more sense if those were reversed.
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>>144897225
>le construction saveded de game!!1 xD
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>>144899182
>construction didn't save the game
construction saved the game
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>a2g still not removed
kek
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>>144899032
tr and nc are both trump lovers, only vanu are purple commie sanders homos
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>>144899032
>Hillary
>Backed by mysterious corporations
NC

>Trump
>Has his own empire
TR

>Bernie
>Followed by brainwashed progressives
VS

i think it checks out the other way
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They really need to make it much more punishing on massive faction imbalances. Once you've hit 45% of the server pop on a faction it needs to just completely stop granting exp to that faction until it rebalances or something.
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>>144877375
>main connery
>usually 2 ivi k/d
>swap to memerald
>instantly 4 ivi k/d
The things >>144881654 outlined make such a absurdly huge difference. I'm not even a good player either. Memerald players just have zero common sense.
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When's the Rocklet Rifle going live? I'm pretty excited for it
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>>144854468
please fucking inventories

PLEASE
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>>144894989
i would much rather have them remodel all the weapons since they are basically borderlands tier rehashes and some of them look like they would cause cancer if exposed to /k/
also the animations need some work too
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>>144901996
>have pretty decent (if dated) inventory system, plus you can salvage enemy weapons
>remove it and move to an x y z class system

I'll never forgive them.
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>>144899420
Except it didn't.

http://steamcharts.com/app/218230#1m

http://steamcharts.com/app/218230#3m

http://steamcharts.com/app/218230#6m

http://steamcharts.com/app/218230#1y

On that last one, activity spiked and then pointed downwards.
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>>144907849
>steamcharts
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>>144908301
that's irrelevant
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>>144909473
>steamcharts
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>>144909473
exactly, bring up more relevant stats
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how do i git gud at leading a squad other than just updating points
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>>144909728
>>144909663
are you retarded, or just pretending?
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>>144910178
>playing ps2 with steam overlay
i dunno m8
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>>144894368
It has the worst recoil pattern out of all TR carbines except the S variant.

TRAC-5 a shit
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>>144909974
Step 1: Be a lone wolf. Dont go anywhere near your squad

Step 2: Everything that doesnt get done is your squads fault. Yell at them constantly so they do better

Step 3: Your kdr is the arbitrary standard by which skill is defined and shitters are identified. Dont recruit anyone below your kdr

Step 4: Fill orders chat with meaningless bullshit

Do these simple things and you will be absorbed as one into the planetside 2 community
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>>144909974
Whenever you attack a base, pull a valk with a drifter-jet light assault. Put a beacon someplace nice.
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>>144910746
1. Zerg surfers in general
2. General Buzzcut Sir
3. Vanu tryhards in general
4. Wisdomcube
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>>144909974
Just talk to them. Explain why the squad marker is there. Call out important things like armor/air approaching. Ask for specific things from the squad, like telling them to roll Heavy to deal with a Sundy you have marked with smoke. Draw on the map. Make sure they have a spawn point to do what you're asking of them, even if it means pulling a shitty Valkyrie.

Most importantly, make sure you're never silent when you're losing. Squads get broken when the push stops and they don't have a good grasp on what's wrong or what they should be doing.
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>>144910529
ok, you are actually retarded.
guess i'll have to spoonfeed
steamcharts is not an accurate representation of how many players there are because a lot of people don't play through steam. however, a certain proportion of people play it through steam, and that is going to be independent from the actual player count.
for example, if steamcharts says there's 30% more players, you can be pretty fucking sure that the actual amount playercount increased by is 25-35%. you don't know exactly how many people, but you do know the proportion.
hence, the evidence presented in >>144907849 is valid.
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>>144912113
that is of course assuming that everyone who doesn't play with the steam overlay follows the same pattern as those who do. you can't say with absolute certainty that your stats are in any way representative of the majority because for all we know, you could be presenting statistics of a very tiny minority of the playerbase

just saying
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>>144912113
ok, you are actually retarded.
guess i'll have to spoonfeed
you're retarded for using steamcharts when there are services using the official API that track population without arbitrary steam demographic bias

also I don't have a vested interest in this conversation, or the conclusions to be drawn from it and just wanted to call you retarded
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>>144913291
BTFO
T
F
O
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>>144912620
>that is of course assuming that everyone who doesn't play with the steam overlay follows the same pattern as those who do.
except for the fact that right after construction came out PS2 was in the steam update ads or whatever for a few days, they do.
>you can't say with absolute certainty that your stats are in any way representative of the majority
that's why i said 25-35%
>because for all we know, you could be presenting statistics of a very tiny minority of the playerbase
no, a majority of people play through steam, and this has been known since forever

>>144913291
>you're retarded for using steamcharts when there are services using the official API that track population without arbitrary steam demographic bias
i thought the RSNC tracker had been shut down, my bad, guess i haven't been keeping up.
anyway, i've compared the figures, and there's a linear relationship between the two, with ~75% of people playing through steam

---

to come back to the original point,
>>144907849
no, construction didn't save the game.
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>>144915132
m8 you are a mongoloid
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>>144915132
nigger you're fucking dumb

that chart doesn't show the players who don't play through steam, it shows total ingame population

no matter how you twist it, player count went UP not down
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>>144915665
>nigger you're fucking dumb
literally "no u"
>that chart doesn't show the players who don't play through steam, it shows total ingame population
of course. when did i claim it showed only those not playing through steam?
>no matter how you twist it, player count went UP not down
of course it went up. however, what's important is that there was a big spike when the patch hit, but pops went back down real quick.
now, the pops are barely 20% above pre-patch level
give it another month, and it'll be back exactly there, maybe even below
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>>144899779
Oy vey, its another shoah! The poor esfs need to be buffed against tank shells!
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>>144916531
>barely 20% above
>barely 20%
>20%
>barely

it's not a flop

it didn't kill the game

it wasn't a resounding failure

it wasn't bad

the player count went from DED to LESS DED, that's a fucking save in my book. go shit up some other general with your defeatist shit.

of course player counts reset after the initial spike, in what fucking universe doesn't that happen?
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>>144917031
>spend six months of dev time working almost exclusively on construction
>some people went as far as calling a relaunch
>one month after, pops are only 20% higher, and still in steady decline
Yeah, it failed.
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>>144917031
>the player count went from DED to LESS DED

That can still be considered a failure, especially if you look at it from the business point of view rather than that of a drooling fan. Construction certainly had an effect on the population, but it didn't "LEL SAVEDED THE GAME xD". There's been a definite drop ever since the construction spike, which indicates that SOMETHING is affecting player longevity.

go back to reddi.t wrelfags
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>>144917280
where is that steady decline you're talking about

there was a 4 week spike and then things went back to 20% over normal

stop talking out of your ass
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When did this general start defending construction?
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>>144918221
shitters gonna shit
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>>144918221
Shitposters are contrarian by nature, so once their very own shitposting had cemented the fact that construction killed the game, it became edgy to play on the other side.
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>>144918082
>stop talking out of your ass
>t. talking out of his ass
heh
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>>144918221
i defend construction a lot of the time. fun times are had keeping tonks away from your victory cores.

haven't you guys defended any constructions lately? do you perhaps shitpost instead of playing the game?
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>>144917996
>SOMETHING is affecting player longevity
A week of dubbelecspee burnout.
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>>144918445
>>144918472
I'll never understand the fascination people have for shitposting. If they put that same effort into the game, they wouldn't be sub 1.0. They could also apply that effort and time to stuff in real life.
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>>144918660
I'm pretty much certain our shitposters shitpost from the spawn room while waiting for a zerg to bottle it.
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>>144918865
>playing the spawn room game

and you wonder why they shit on construction so much, saying it didn't do anything good for the game
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>>144918660
When the pub platoons stop defending locations from other pub platoons to (fail to) crash bases, that force could be applied better elsewhere. This also provides a farming spot for other players, rather than some guys turret towers.

I saw an outfit try to 96+ valk/gal drop the same base like 6 times. Losing an alert because of leader incompetence is pretty disappointing.
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>>144918717
And we'll see if it recovers after that. So far we're in the third week since May 22nd.
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>>144918717
>tfw double exp burnout always makes me stop playing for a month
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>>144919136
>the shitposters are the ones criticizing construction

heh
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>>144919226
>playing for the metagame
right i forget about this

until they buff the VP generation from cores only people with the capacity to enjoy fun will fight for player bases, while the rest grind the same fucking building with a flag on the second floor copypasted all over auraxis

>>144919649
(You)
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>>144918779
>If they put that same effort into the game, they wouldn't be sub 1.0. They could also apply that effort and time to stuff in real life.
Yeah, I guess shitposting takes effort if you're bad at it.
Thank fuck I've been shitposting since the mid-90s on BBS, I became pretty skilled at it. It's basically second nature to me.
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>>144920649
too bad shitposting prowess doesn't actually give you job opportunitie-
>it's the year 2016, we are literally in the fucking future
>literally every fuck is connected to the internet
>shitposting and shilling on popular social media and internet forums literally carries more agenda than making an ad that runs on primetime television
brb withdrawing my job applications
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I'd play more often if it weren't for the fact that every time I'm ready to sit down and enjoy the game, it enters the Asian Invasion hours on Hong Connery. Seriously considering moving to Emerald to have fun again.
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>>144921423
>too bad shitposting prowess doesn't actually give you job opportunities
It does if you want to become a "social media viral marketer" aka shill
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>>144923728
there are so many people trying to do that though, that the market has become flooded.

remember all those replies people made like "0.02c has been credited to your Microsoft account"? most of the jobs have become unpaid internships, so 2 cents would actually be an upgrade.
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>>144923728
did you even read the rest of the post
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>>144924791
Only the Pajeets who mechanically copypaste canned messages will get 2 cents. True meme masterminds get more.
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>>144925028
True but those guys have already established themselves usually. Marketing degrees haven't reached critical levels in terms of usefulness, but marketing degrees with a focus on social media manipulation are pretty worthless unless you're really talented.
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The TR rocklet rifle is fucking terrifying, jesus.
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>>144925663
>unless you're really talented.
Like a true mememaster shitposter who has been shitposting for 2 decades?
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>>144926048
Shitposting isn't necessarily shillposting, but all shillposting is shitposting.

Also if you actually call yourself a mememaster then you should probably consider suicide
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>>144898141
>Fagen is a Master Founder
>paid hundreds of dollarydoos to a game that wasn't even in public beta yet

HAHAHAHAHAH that explains so much.
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>try to play on Hong Connery
>VS always have 6 or 7 HIVEs on every open continent
>meta is just "do whatever for 2 hours until VS locks the continent" ad nauseum
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>>144929493
Have you considered getting half (1/2) a platoon and just crashing a hive? 20 MAXs shooting at any building kills it through repair.
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>>144929840
It all means nothing though. VS always has 1 or 2 autism squads going around taking them right back.
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>>144931034
Even when VS doesn't have an autism squad, NC and especially TR rarely bother building HIVEs to put the victory cores in, so they just end up expiring and VS takes them.

I'm starting to wonder if 7 is too many cores for people to want to have to deal with, so they just think "fuck it" and ignore construction altogether.
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Can someone link or explain to me how lag works in favor of the lagger in this game? There are non-competitive games that still punish people for lagging, so I'm wondering why Planetside is different.
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did they remove the checkbox to skip the tutorial on character creation? I started playing again on a new account, made a character, ran it through the tutorial, then noticed when making another new character i can no longer tic a box to skip it and go straight into the newbie continent (or a regular one during low pop)

I got to wondering if maybe theres a requirement of reaching br10 or something before it shows up? Or a certain number of achievement point?

Can someone check if they get the skip option on new character creation?
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Should I get the Emissary now knowing it will get buffed or the mag scatter which probably never change
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MATTOCKS OR GORGONS?
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>>144932410
why is it so hard to get an answer to this? all it will take is someone logging to character selection and seeing if theres a ticbox. There are no patch notes about this anywhere i can find. When i search for it all it get are really old ones saying they have implemented the bypass, nothing new saying they removed it, but its not there for me. So im just trying to figure out if ive not triggered the requirement for it yet, or if its been removed and nobody has it now.
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>>144933325
Mattocks. They can do everything Gorgons can, except tickle heavy armor.
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>>144932047
Lag compensation makes laggy players warp around, and depending on their specific type of lag (packet loss vs latency, inbound vs outbount etc), they might look like .webm related to you, but you look normal to them.

Less extreme, if they have a normal inbound connection but their outbound is 300ms latent or whatever, they might walk around a corner and shoot you 5 times on their client before you've gotten the packet from the first shot, which makes retaliating, or even retreating pretty much impossible.

Worse, if their connection is packet lossy, they might have shot you 5 times, and the "you got shot" packets all come in at once as chunk damage and fuck you your health is instantly 0.

It doesn't work as well for players used to normal connections who've gotten a lag spike because the play style doesn't adapt well, but for Asians and Russian rapefugees who've literally always played with a garbage connection it's a nightmare to deal with for everyone else.
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>I know y'all have been asking for a separation between vehicle and vehicle gunner mouse sensitivity settings. Well, now you'll have it. I hope to have this on PTS soon so it can be properly tested.
Fucking finally jesus christ

t. someone who has to quarter their DPI every time they want to gun a non-tank turret
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I guess ill just ask again

Was the skip tutorial on new character checkbox removed or do i not meet the requirements yet?
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>>144934342
tfw an Australian NS15 user on Miller)))))))))
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>>144938105
Are you an abo?
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>>144939117
No, Brit expat.
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>>144934342
Did the devs decide early on that they didn't want calculations to be server side? I've heard that's the fix for lagwizards, and it worked pretty well in one game I played.
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>>144939820
its probably intentional this way since even if it makes really screwy things its also more fair since if you see something, and shoot at it, it counts no matter how much either player is lagging. Things people dont really take into consideration is that the disadvantages exist for the lagger as well, that same person who sees you while you are behind cover because he didnt get the update from the server fast enough, is also going to be hit while hes behind cover because his shit connection meant you didn't get the fact that HE is behind cover now updated on your client, so you can still shoot him as well.
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The goddamn crashing is getting fucking irritating.

Cleared out a small VS armor push with myself in a 2/2 AP Vanguard and another guy in the same, killing a couple of magriders, 4 lightnings, and 3 support Sundies. With the defense gone, move into position to flatten their AMS from waaaaay down town and suddenly BAM, looking at my desktop.

I hope the reasonably capable pubby gunner that suddenly got like a 12000 cert invested AP Vanguard to himself managed to finish the job at least.
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>>144940593
That is just horrible my friend, but lets make the most of this unfortunate situation! When you log back in you can check real fast and tell me >>144938087
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youre a bunch of higbys
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>>144944590
suck my dalton
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>>144919885
>while the rest grind the same fucking building with a flag on the second floor copypasted all over auraxis

>he doesn't like based Towers

I see someone didn't play Quake in 99 :^)
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>>144945175
>99
>not 96
q3 babbies need to gtfo
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>>144945175
I like to spawncamp towers with a HE Prowler. They are basically made for that. The ones that still have a cap point inside (West Pass, Indar Ex) also have open windows in the point room.
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>>144927849

oi. Facts straight. not hundreds. I think I cashed out like 70 pounds or something.
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>>144947330
pounds are not real money and you are a frenchman in pants

fagen go
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*BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP*
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>>144950086
F
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>>144938105
neck yourself
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why do NC have the saggiest pants?
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>>144952309
They've got cheeseburgers in their pockets.
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ded
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Hey! I've got ammunition for you here!
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>>144952891
>tfw no emergency cheeseburgers
why live

>>144953126
Servers were fucking up, just like what killed the last thread.
>Connection error with sys.4chan.org.
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>>144953249
>Servers were fucking up
I know

>just like what killed the last thread.
Threads die because they get buried by other, more active threads. That can't happen if the whole site is down. It was my thread ;__;
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>>144896228
bad content can shaft a game though
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>>144954168
You mean like overwatch as a whole, the only redeeming factor of it is bastion being a vanguard with a chain gun or a straight up vanguard during ult
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>>144955221
Haven't played Overwatch, but broken anti-fun shit is definitely worse than no content at all. Like AI-controlled OHK turrets under an invulnerable shield. Or giving LA's a shotgun rocket laucher than instakills everything (I think Wrel stole this one from Overwatch).
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>>144956508
LAs from ONE faction meanwhile the other two get complete garbage
gee, I wonder what faction didn't get fucked this time
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>>144956792
just wait, TR are going to whine about squads of NC drifter light assaults using the guided rocklets to shit on prowler camps

they're going to find a way to whine about the VS one as well, but i'm not smart enough to figure out how
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>>144956508
>(I think Wrel stole this one from Overwatch).
heh
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>>144956508
construction saved the game, if you don't agree you're a tryhard shitter and need to fuck back off to call of battlestrike
like and subscribe plis
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>>144910549
>tfw im not the only one here who despises the Trac-5
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>>144964403
TRAC 5 is the second best TR carbine, after the T5B. If you despise the TRAC 5, you're a shitter.
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>>144910549
>recoil pattern
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does shiny trim make you easier to see at range?
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>>144965236
not him, i never used it a lot but i didn't really like it
now speaking of the T5 AMC, which scope should be my first scope?
I got compensator and adv foregrip already and it's p fun
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>got killed 2 times in the last minutes
>headshot from a boltshit
>AI mine
people shouldn't get xp for this
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>>144968696
Shooters would be greatly improved if snipers, invisibility cloaks and infantry mines were removed from existence.
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>>144968807
i'm ok with semi auto snipas, even invisibility if it wasn't as fucking spammable and easy to abuse
but this shit is getting tiring
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>>144967748
1x.
The only scopes you should be using are 1x, 2x on long range autos, 4x on snipers, and IR if you're spamming smoke.

>comp on AMC
lol no, what are you even doing
use a flash suppressor
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>>144969224
which one
also if there was one, wouldn't the comp make it even more stable?
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>>144969815
some guns don't have certain attachments because DGC understands literally nothing about balance. I haven't used the AMC in a while and thought it did have access to a flash suppressor
>wouldn't the comp make it even more stable?
technically yes, but compensators are useless on 143 damage, and extra useless on 652/143
flash suppressor would be a much better choice, not only are you marginally more sneaky, but from your point of view aiming is much easier. comp fucks up your hipfire (important with carbines, even long range oriented ones) and quadruples the area in which you get autospotted
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10439968
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ahuehuehuehuehuehue
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>>144975469
kys
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>>144965236
>You're a shitter if you do well with a gun that isn't good
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>>144978891
That is totally not what I said.
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>We will never have a massive rain-pounded city
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Am I correct in assuming the Gauss Saw and the GodSaw are the only good NC lmgs?
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>>144979718
like and subscribe
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>>144979827
lel
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>>144979827
no lol
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>>144979963
>>144979982
Which nc lmgs are good then?
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>>144979213
And I never said it was bad.
I said I despised it.
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>>144980430
Anchor is the MLG approved weapon.
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How is engagement radar on a non skyguard lightning?
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>>144984413
Pointless? How is this a question?
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Downloading an update, what's in it?
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>>144985428
le official reddit forums say it's something to do with instant action changes.

To answer your question
>what's in it
nothing of value. It's a too little too late attempt to stop shitters getting farmed.
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>>144984541
b..but i just killed an esf with my ap ;_;
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hey guys

as a personal design project just for fun, i'm making a concept for an MMOFPS similar to PS2

what do yall like about the factions and community? do the different factions have different personalities and connotations? are they adequate or could they invoke more community participation/interest?

if someone wants to let me bounce ideas off them, let me know
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>>144988659
Unfortunately MMOs are way outside the scope of any indie startup so this won't ever get done, but make sure you actually make the factions different. PS2 might as well have a single faction with how similar everything is. The differences are too subtle.
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>Unfortunately MMOs are way outside the scope of any indie startup so this won't ever get done

haha i'm just an undergrad engineering student. no startup. this isn't getting developed anytime soon if ever.

i'm not taking it seriously. just setting up vague concepts for mechanics, maps, and things. i like thinking about games in my free time.

>but make sure you actually make the factions different. PS2 might as well have a single faction with how similar everything is. The differences are too subtle.

hmm okay. any games you can think of that does this well?

i'm not talking about gun/vehicle/equipment differences. i mostly mean like... what makes fans draw art for their favorite factions. the way different players talk shit on forums. what makes a new player join one faction or the other, or what makes players choose a team to root for.
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>>144989885
>any games you can think of that does this well?
>
>i'm not talking about gun/vehicle/equipment differences. i mostly mean like... what makes fans draw art for their favorite factions. the way different players talk shit on forums. what makes a new player join one faction or the other, or what makes players choose a team to root for.
PlanetSide 1.
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>>144988659
>>144989885
I did exactly what you're describing about two years ago.
It started out as a fun challenge, seeing if I could design a working system, but eventually devolved into an overly obsessive hobby, taking up almost all of my free time. Eventually I reached a point where I realized if I had a team of coders I could make what would essentially be "a much better no-bullshit PS2-like MMOFPS", but even later on I realized that it would inevitably be stumped by the massive budget and time needed, and how that wouldn't go down with any studio, and nobody but someone who happens to be a major PS2 fan, extremely disappointed at what the game has become, rich as fuck, and willing to loan money to a stranger with a few dozen scrapbooks filled with scribbles, would be willing to finance it.
I worked on it for about six month, maybe two hours a day, and then realized that it was all for nothing. I had become affectionate to the universe I created, perfect in its theoretical state, and then was crushed by the realization that it was basically impossible to actually have a video game like this.
My advice for you is, don't go down this path, it will only bring you pain.
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How are you supposed to deal with invisible fags? They ruin me in every confrontation. I don't remember them being so strong last time I played which was near launch. I remember them being useless BR snipers.
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>>144991762
can you give me some contact info?
steam or something?

i want to hear more about your concept and your process.
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>>144989885
good examples of faction&playerbase diversity/loyalty:
Magic the Gathering (mana colors follow themes and make it easy for people to sympathize with a playstyle or with a philosophy, since they're tied very closely)
Universe at War (WARNING DED GFWL GAME, but really good example of how to do faction diversity right)
Starcraft (self explanatory)
Ace of Spades / Build & Shoot (Green and Blue teams are identical other than Green spawning on empty plains and Blue in mountains, making Blue tunnel rats while Green become fort builders. good example of faction bantz)
Tribes (by egging on the tensions between the different tribes in the ingame voice overs, along with the very competitive atmosphere, you create good bantz)
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I got bored and stopped playing 2 years ago. Has the game changed enough that I wouldn't just get bored again after trying out the new maps?
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>>144993025
>2 years

the game has gone under a bunch of changes and has a bunch more shit coming down the line. loads of new content and shit we never thought would happen like ANTs

other than that it's still Battlefield XXL, trying it out won't hurt
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>>144992816
>(mana colors follow themes and make it easy for people to sympathize with a playstyle or with a philosophy, since they're tied very closely)

what i'm thinking of doing is creating Advance Wars-style monochrome armies.

If you're not familiar with Advance Wars, there's a green faction that's stylized like a WW2 US army. A red army stylized like a WW2 Russian army. A blue army is stylized like European, and a yellow one is some weird exotic Asian-inspired army.

I've thought a bit about the above.

The green army would get gear (small arms, vehicles, uniforms and equipment) that reminds you of US and South American armies.

Red would get very Russian and Soviet gear.

Blue would get mostly British, German, French, and Belgian gear.

And yellow would get all those other weird Chinese and Korean bootleg guns.

But I kind of almost feel weird for leaving out Africa and Australia. But neither continent have contributed much to military tech. Except for South Africa, actually. Maybe the yellow faction would have lots of South African arms.

I've since considered mixing up the factions and making them more abstract, but I don't know how to retain "character."

tl;dr I want to copy Advance Wars but I don't know how much real-world influence I should retain.

>Ace of Spades / Build & Shoot (Green and Blue teams are identical other than Green spawning on empty plains and Blue in mountains, making Blue tunnel rats while Green become fort builders. good example of faction bantz)

tfw i don't remember whether i was a tunnel rat or a builder
there was great bantz in that game, yes.
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>>144994050
>Australia
MUH AUG
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>>144988659
Factions have different personalities on paper, but the guns are very homogenized because people thought completely different weapons for each faction was broken.

Also everyone looks like power rangers, which is really stupid. I'd rather have bulky armor which is similar across factions with subtle but defining differences.
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>>144994050
i think you could probably do with less real world influence, but if you can't make anything up by all means copycat some shit

make factions that have some kind of reason to have beef with eachother is probably my best advice. reflect just how much the different factions hate eachother, and for what reason, in everything that they do. make the different design philosophies clash as much as possible. if possible, make the different factions play like essentially completely different games. finally, give the player the option to select one of the different factions, although that is a given in an MMO.
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>>144994050
If people are making (and cancelling) games that are inspired by P.T., then you can copy Advance Wars. The original game is what, a decade old?

Also I would recommend making the colorings very drab, rather than the typical vibrant colors. Think US vs Germany vs USSR vs England/Aus in WW2. The colors were noticeably different, but they weren't glow in the dark.
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>>144994050
>And yellow would get all those other weird Chinese and Korean bootleg guns.
:^)
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>>144998371

what?

>>144997048
>Also I would recommend making the colorings very drab, rather than the typical vibrant colors.

yeah absolutely. the soldiers aren't actually gonna be firetruck red or lime green. camo will be very subtle and dull and will have a few brighter faction-colored accents. an actual red badge or a yellow band around an arm.

>>144996471

desu PS2 would be my Go-to Game if it had any other visual aesthetic than it does now.

of all of the quasi-near future military shooters with foot soldiers wearing power ranger armor with goggles and pauldrons, Planetside's is IMO the weakest. the soldiers all look uninspired. Tribes armor design is sooo much more interesting. even CoD: AW has cooler armor.

also, the guns all look like big plastic toys, and they "feel" like airsoft guns. i don't just mean time to kill, but audio and visual recoil feedback is really weak.

the vehicle designs are uninspired, too.
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>>144999262
>Chinese and Korean
>yellow
:^^^^)
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>>144999308
yes right of course
:~~~~~~~~~)
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Best server?

Miller of course
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>>144999419
miller just went down
was going to post it
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>>144999419
Best server died a minute ago ;__;
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>>144999419
lmao
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>>144980430
Literally all of them, even the EM1 that gets a lot of hate from spoiled conglos.
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worst EU server went down as well
wake me up
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How do I get better bros? I have been playing since release and I have 0.320 K/D ratio.

I die 10 times without kills and then I kill a bunch of dudes, rarely more than 1 or 2 per life.

I tried all classes, I am not good enough at sniping, I INSTANTLY die in any firefight be it with heavy infantry or anything else. Engineering and medic don't interest me desu. I suck with tanks and can;t fly even 10 meters.

What am I doing wrong? ;_;
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>>145000064
>>144999419
at least construction saved the game amirite
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>>145000179
>still being this salty
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>>145000243
to be honest, not being mad about how underwhelming construction was shows that you're a reddit-like dev semen slut.
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>>145000158
Server/Faction? I'll play with you if you want.
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>>145000469
not him but i'm miller TR

>>145000000
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>>145000469
Miller/TR master race pls no bully

I can't use any form of audio communication for the time being, so playing with others doesn't work. Could that be a reason why I suck? I never received any advice, learned as I went on my own.
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>>145000158
Are you playing with at least 30 stable frames per second? Do you have a low dpi mouse and an appropriate mousepad? Are you sitting comfortably so you can focus on the game?

If you answered yes to all those, you are a monumental shitter and nothing will help but more practice
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>>145000591
>>145000710
Sorry anon(s?), I'm Emerald VS.
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>>145000734
>Are you playing with at least 30 stable frames per second?

Almost max fps on max settings.

>Do you have a low dpi mouse and an appropriate mousepad?


Logitech MX1100

>Are you sitting comfortably so you can focus on the game?

Very.

>If you answered yes to all those, you are a monumental shitter and nothing will help but more practice

Just end this suffering already.
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>>145000393
If sucking their dicks means they get motivated to improve their game, I would do it

Reflect on that for a moment
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>>145001134
>If sucking their dicks means they get motivated to improve their game, I would do it
There have been literally no improvements since launch.
The only relevant things are HE / A2G / ZOE / etc. nerfs, but those should never have made it to live in the first place.

>>145000158
>what FPS do you get?
>what's your turn distance for a 360, both hip and aim? is mouse accel off?
>do you have a non-garbage headset?
>are you aiming better?
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>>145000932
Max FPS is 250 unless you change/remove the limit. I doubt that you get that much on full ultra.
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>>145001567
How about OMFG and multithread? Or do you enjoy having 20 FPS with an overclocked i7?
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>>145001567
>literally no improvements since launch
>literally

Anon
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how do I check fps?
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>>145002147
alt+f
also shows what's bottlenecking you
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gonna play some Diablo 2 until miller comes back
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>>145001775
>Or do you enjoy having 20 FPS with an overclocked i7?
i got a stable ~100 FPS in big fights before OMFG, not my fault you're running on a toaster
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>>145003017
No you didn't.
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>>145001775
I was thinking of content rather than performance, but sure, you have a point. Then again, pre-OMFG performance was also unacceptable for a game of this size, and it's insane to think they managed not to have the game die within a couple weeks because almost nobody could run it well enough.
But do tell, besides for nerfing stupidly broken things, what other improvements have there been design/content-wise?
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>>144999262
I think someone posted long ago that said the MBTs and even the lightning had fucked up proportions. The lightning driver would have to be flat, and the tanks would be too tight with 2 people and ammo stores.
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>>145001134
Jesus christ, have a spine.

If they actually get mad at criticism (especially when the internet is as hostile as it is now) and refuse to improve their product, then they don't deserve to be a business. I bet if they did that and 'finished' the game tomorrow, I bet you would still suck their dicks until long after the game has died.
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Aww shit nigga got these babies on my first run yesssssss. Miller going down best day of my life.
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>>145004825
It's a shame multiplayer turned into spam and scams. Gotta love chinese gold farmers for ruining something good.
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>>145005201
Fuck them. Single player is still god tier.
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>>145000158
>engi and medic don't interest you
>all you have to do is stand behind the big guys with a rifle, which ensures safety while killing

I've seen support classes with k/ds that rival heavy mains.
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