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>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
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(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
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>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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Logarius Wheel.
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>>144801395
Kos.
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third for the moonlight
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nth for Dark Souls
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nth for NO BULLYING
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Has anyone attempted to bring characters from Bloodborne into DaKS 3? I tried making Alfred but the beards are pretty trash.
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>>144801960
>that hair
Jesus fuck
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>>144801960
That would require playing DS3. Decent Alfred, though. Shame the mutton chops are so thin and spindly.
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>there are easily backstabbed vial/bullet sources right outside Ludwig's boss room

BASED
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>>144802558
You can also find three vials inside the boss area in case you run out of heals.
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>>144802942
and you can kill the red guy banging on the gate, begging for salvation.
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>>144801960
I've seen a Gascoigne, Ludwig, Ebrietas and Kosm in Ds3. Needless to say none of them were too accurate.
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>>144803070
>Ebrietas
How?
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>>144803254
It was literally just the name of the character, Guy was hollowed out and looked like bacon.
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>>144803070
>>144803254
>Kos
How?

Unless you mean Orphan in which case say Orphan or kill urself
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>>144803479
>Kos
You mean Kosm.
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>>144803562
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>144803479
No, the guy's name was unironically Kosm. If the lad was named Kos, I would have said Kos.

Even though saying Kos is incorrect. Not that it mattered, he had a dark sword anyway
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>>144803562
All we know is...

He's called the Stig.
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What's the most useless rune?
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Rifle Spear.
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>>144803747
>Even though saying Kos is incorrect

You watch your mouth.

lousy offcomer
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>>144803957
I really like the moveset of the riflespear but fuck its so bad
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>>144803892
Beast's embrace.
Beast mode is fun but the claws without the rune are better in every way.
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>>144802942

I beat him

He was fun, although I think it took like 10 tries
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>everyone I run into in Nightmare Frontier has <1000 HP

wut
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If I was in charge of developing a game like this, I would hire a team of people JUST to deal with armor/weapon clipping issues.

God Damn
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What should a MGS build look like?
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>>144806354
a build centered around the hmls
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>>144806354
Bloodtinge for guns, blue elixir for stealth, Madaras whistle for Snake
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>>144805059
It's weird, isn't it? Outside of the FC's it seems like everyone is running sub-30 Vit
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>>144806545
Any reliable way to get blue elixirs?
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>>144806709
Insight shop.
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>>144806540
>>144806545
I mean stats
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>>144806792
Just a normal blt build.
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Tomb Prospector trousers look sexy on lady Hunters.
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>>144806792
high SKL/END, medium VIT/STR, high BLT
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Anyone do remote play with a Vita for Bloodborne? It plays surprisingly well.
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>>144806894
The animations don't adjust for the heels though so it ends up looking weird as fuck when you walk.

Otherwise they're by far the best pants in the game.
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>>144806951
Sounds uncomfortable, I can't imagine playing BB without a controller.
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>>144806834
>>144806927
It's an Arcane weapon
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>>144807079
Nah man, it uses the screen for guns, so it feels real active. I enjoyed it a lot.
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>>144807089
METAL GEAR SOLID.
Dumby head.
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>>144806894
>Skinnest leggings in the game with that substantial heel
2aesthetic
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>>144807317
>>144807089

Then again Metal Gear Solid makes about as much sense nowadays as Micky's ravings, so maybe he's on to something.
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>>144807317
MOONLIGHT GREAT SWORD
Fromsoft game you dumby head.
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>>144807537
It's not called the Moonlight Greatsword in Bloodborne, anon. You need more eyes, friend.
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>>144807630
Now you're just being willfully ignorant.
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So I am back from DkS3. What did i miss, /bbg/?
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>>144807852
People voicing their disappointment with DS3, a small resurgence of loranon shiposting, speculation about what BB2 could be about, renewed lorefag discussions where half the people aren't as up to speed as everyone else

that's about it
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>>144807852
Fun.
Quality.
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>>144807826
It's called the Holy Moonlight Sword this time around, though. I'm ignorant in many things, but minutia concerning Japanese overstimulation facilitators -- I am not. That the other anon mistook it for MGS is understandable.
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>>144808049
Heh! Wasn't that bad. Bosses are far too easy tho.

No Ludwig in sight.
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>>144808237
>mistook

Are you really being that retarded right now?
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Will wearing Doll clothes make things harder?
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How do I cheese the crow guy in the grand cathedral? My attacks do little damage and he kills me in 2-3 hits. My strength is 25 with Ludwig sword.
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>>144809158
You might get harder.
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>>144809158
A bit.
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>>144809367
The doll clothing surprisingly works well with the slut shoes, even though the under-shorts usually kill it
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>>144809338

The way I did it was with the beast roar

Bait him to the doors of the cathedral, then use beast roar to push him into a corner, then spam r1 until you run out of stamina, hit beast roar when you're out of stamina to knock him down again in order to recharge
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tfw Micolash got his eyes
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>tfw tempted to go to 117
help
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>The complete lack of help requests in the last few threads

I just want to coop bosses, /bbg/. Is there anyone in need of assistance? I don't want to grind right now and I'm tired of SRRC shitters.
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>>144809338
bait him to the steps, when he starts walking back sprint past him and hide behind the farthest pillar on the left. When he resets walk slowly behind him and visceral him.

He'll heal after the first reset, but he won't after the second or third. You should have him either dead or within 10% at this point.
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In the top image, what do the different chalice icons mean?

Also in second image, what is the point in making a Standard Dungeon? Aren't only the Roots random?

Thanks
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Are pure arcane builds fun?
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>>144811441
do it you little bitch

>>144811489
How could you EVER get sick of fighting defiled hotdog/amy Over. And OVER. AND OVER!!!!
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>>144811489
Ring outside of the DLC bosses, I don't have to wait at all at Ludwig
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>>144811841
Absolutely, but making them is a pain in the ass.
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>>144811932
nvm i got the boss im gucci
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Can anyone help me with the Ailing Loran BSB? I don't know why but he's kicking my ass this run.

Pass is Starved, ringing outside the boss room.
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>>144813520
BLESSED SALVATION

I'm on my way.
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>>144813520
>>144813968
My fucking game crashed on the loading screen. Relaunching now, be with you quick as I can.
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>>144814436
I'm gonna join in too. Ringing by srrc though
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>>144814508
SRRC?
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>>144814573
Short Ritual Root Chalice. What people use when they don't have the chalice made and ready to access.
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Anyone else weirdly paranoid about the game starting to run slower to the more save files and longer you play?

I swear that pop-in wasn't as bad when I first started. Then again I wasn't moving so fast when I first started.
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>>144814436
Gracias.
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>>144815026
...Did you get help already? It wasn't me, if you did.
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What do we know about the Blood Minister in the intro?

He seems to know about Paleblood and has some power related to the Dream and the contract, but is there anything else at all about what he is/what his role is?
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Do you guys have early game builds? I really love my bl29 character, although sometimes I worry that I'm too powerful for early game since I can blow through everything.

But then, on the other side of the coin, if people are summoning its because they need help, correct? What are your thoughts on early game coop builds?
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>>144815258
No, and it's not very important
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>>144815294
Use unupgraded weapons.

If people are summoning it's for *help*, not for someone to OHKO the boss (and if it is they don't deserve the help anyways).
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>>144815580
>OHKOing the boss for people that can't beat the boss isn't help
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>tfw reading Lovecraft
>tfw he describes Mexicans in one of his stories
Holy shit the stories of him being racist don't hold a candle to the reality, it's amazing!
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>Away from PS4
>Can't play Bloodborne
I literally feel a withdrawal, I want nothing but to play it. Why is it so addictive, /bbg/?
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>>144816702
>his black cat is named Nigger-man
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I just wasted 21 vials as Paarl slapped my shit. Should I just stop?
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>Chalice Rom
What the fuck were they thinking? This shit is never enjoyable. Its not even had its just fucking cheap in that tiny fucking room. Either you nail him without getting touched or he decides to spam everything without stopping while his spiders ream your ass.

Yeah lets put a teleporting boss with 15 spider adds inside a tiny fucking room great idea From fuck god damnit I need to fucking sleep what the fuck
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Anyone want to help me fight the abhorrent beast in ailing Loran?

Pass is sparks, I'm at the door.
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>>144819808
Be there in just a moment.
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>>144819754
>tfw you still to this day can't beat her ass without being arcane for fire or overly leveled

My chalice version always ends up being the absolute arcane spambitch and I literally can't get anywhere near her without getting oneshot by one of the spells eventually
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>>144819808
Couldn't find you with srrc
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>get summoned for orphan of kos
>kick his ass to a sliver of health for the useless host missing shots with acb
>get my blanked by host

Why
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>>144820897
Same thing happened to me, except it was BLB, not Orphan.
I think they're doing it to cuck us out of the rewards.
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Does tricked bloodletter scale only off bloodtinge?
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>>144821663
Yes
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>>144821162
Gf joked that i beat the boss too fast and made him look the fool.
Lame.
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>>144821663
Yes, exclusively bloodtinge.
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>>144820897
>>144821162
>>144821830
See
>>144815580
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>>144821996
The fact is that he kicked me out of the game when the boss had something like 10% HP.
Also there's no real way to twink headless BLB.
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>>144815580
>>144821996
Do coopers get butthurt by getting help from people with good gems?
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>>144815580
If I'm summoning people for a boss it means the boss has pissed me off so bad that I want someone else handle at least a part of the bullshit.
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>>144822340
>summon someone to make the boss easier
>"waah stop making it so easy"
This is nuts.
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>>144822546
That IS nuts!
They must feel like they wished they contributed.
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Post bloodborne wallpapers. The higher the resolution the better, need some good ones for my 1440p montior.
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>>144822667
But don't they consider the feelings of the guy that's helping them?
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>>144801395
Tonight, Doll___ joins the hunt.
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>>144808407
ponti sully was close, him and the princes and nameless. And the Deacons of the Deep, they would have been right at home in Bloodborne
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>>144823186
Nameless King is a fucking joke.
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>>144823186
haha no
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>>144823369
>>144823482
I kind you not Ponti and Deacons were my favorite fights in the whole game, I had headphones on and was only about level 30 for them so they were actually challenging
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>>144821842
>>144821764

What about Blood Chikage?
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So here's my Amygdalan Arm build. Is it worth it to go 44 Vit just for the Repeating Pistol? Or should I go with 47 Vit?

I can also make do with 12 End, but I'm not sure if that's a great idea.
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>>144823756
Also the same. Every bloodtinge weapon has its attack changed to blood damage in tricked form.
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>>144823891
thanks

min requirements it is then
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>>144823821
Why 25 arc? The arcane scaling of Amygdalan Arm is pure trash and you only need 18 to use beast roar and augur.
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god i love this game but im starting to get burned out, should i get ds3 for the time between bb sessions?
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>>144822979
Did you draw that? It looks spectacular!
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>>144824295
from pixiv my friend
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>>144824245
Can't say whether you should or shouldn't get Ds3 but it is good to have something else to switch to for when you want a break.

Just don't abandon the dream
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>>144824010
The Arc scaling is actually better than the Skill scaling I think. I just want the best damage with the weapon I can get.
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Would anyone be willing to help me tomorrow with defiled Amygdala?
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>>144824415
The arc scaling is so weak that you might as well ignore it.
It would be better to use those extra points in skill (just for viscerals), stamina or bloodtinge (for church cannon) imo, but it's up to you.
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>>144824787
Something keeping you busy that you can't tackle it right now? I'd love to lend a hand either way.
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Anyone feel up for helping me with Maria? Just trying to get the bloodletter for my goofy Str/Blt build. I managed to get by Ludwig and LF but she's kicking my butt. BL54, pass is HELP

Thanks!
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>>144825287
On my way.
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>>144825005
Sleep
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>>144823727
Deacons of the Deep may be my favorite Souls song ever, totally feels like something that could fit in BB too.

Actually are there any songs in BB featuring an organ at all? I didn't think there were, but that would have been cool.
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>>144824828
Why is the Church Cannon better than the Cannon?
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>>144825502
Consumes less bullets, does more damage and the explosion is wider.
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>>144825607
But it doesn't deal more damage?
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>>144825375
Beautiful stuff, thanks so much. Can't wait to upgrade the Church Cannon more too, this thing is a hoot.
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>>144825607
>Church Cannon +10 480

>Cannon +10 600

Another thing worth noting about the regular Cannon is that you can actually aim it upwards. Church Cannon doesn't have height on it.
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>>144825757
It's still superior
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>>144825948
Church cannon can be aimed manually.
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>>144825961
>>144825607
>>144824828
Alright well I'm not doing 16 Blt. My question now is 47 Vit 5 Blt better than 43 Vit and 8 Blt?
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>>144825807
I almost feel bad for her. She's a tough and incredibly fun boss, but coop completely trivializes her.
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>>144826140
That all depends if you want to use repeating pistol or not.
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>>144826140
Repeating Pistol can be okay at that investment but its a QS bullet hog.

>>144826172
She shouldn't have grabbed my arm if she didn't want to be bullied.
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>>144826231
Yes. That's what I'm talking about.

Would you rather have 53 more HP or be able to use the Repeating Pistol?

>>144826405
Yeah, I'm not sure what else I'd be using the QS for except maybe the Cannon.
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>>144826519
In that case I'd say go for it. With BMA you'll be dealing pretty hefty damage at a minimal state investment.
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Do I want to get Physical Gems on Rakuyo/Burial Blade or Is Something else better? Also wouldn't that mean to get triangle versions of them?

Just remembered about the bowblade, should I stack bloodtinge gems on that or physical
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>>144826778
Yeah, you want radial/radial/triangle with physical gems.
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>>144826682
Yeah I was leaning that way too.

Now my question is about Endurance. How much enough for PvP? Anywhere between 9-15.
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>>144826519
If you're going to +10 repeating or at the very least get some chunks in it, go with 8 blt. You can also get hp runes to make up for the health

>>144826778
>Bloodtinge gems
oho

Easiest by far is physical gems, which you'll still do good damage with
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>>144826924
Honestly I almost never bother with leveling End, just slap on a +20% and you're probably fine.
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>>144826405
We posting bullying?
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>>144827034
Yeah? Lowest I've ever gone in a full build was 12. I'll give it a shot.
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>>144827530
You may want to hear from another anon, I've only ever played with two charcters in the /bbg/ fightclubs, so I'm maybe not the most experienced person.
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>>144824398
oh don't worry, we shall not abandon the dream
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>>144827530
The amount of endurance you want is pretty weapon dependent to be honest. Anywhere between base and 20 is fine, with bigger weapons requiring more End. Judge for yourself: level it until you're comfortable with the amount of stamina you have.
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>>144827530
>>144827941
Unless you're running a strength build, you really never need more than base endurance. More can be nice, depending on your choice of weapon, but endurance is a luxury stat more than anything. Some weapons like to have more, like the Burial Blade or the Beast Claw, but you'll never need any more than 20, and that's at the far end of the spectrum.
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What does "Share Fixed Dungeon" mean?
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>>144825476
>Actually are there any songs in BB featuring an organ at all?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCDEDi5gDPo

My personal favorite.
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>>144829142
Holy shit how could I forget this, thanks for reminding me.

>>144828413
>What does "Share Fixed Dungeon" mean?
Pretty sure it opens your dungeon up for online play?
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>>144811782
Gold with the effect around it are root chalices, silver with the effect is sinister root chalices. Root chalices can be made cursed or rotted or foetid or any combination of the three depending on the particular depth, whereas sinister can only be made sinister (spawning a chime maiden).

Searching a standard chalice allows you to recreate it for no cost, which is useful for early game Arc builds (to get two decent fire radials straight after BSB) and if there's a certain material you want to farm sometimes standards are better than roots for it (for example in Lower Loran Layer 1 there's a chest with two Ritual Blood (5)'s, and you can create it, rush to the chest, delete it, then create it again to respawn the RB5 at no cost).
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>>144829501
>Pretty sure it opens your dungeon up for online play?
Do you mean if that box is checked, other people can co-op or invade you while playing it? Or does it mean that people can access it and remake it from the dungeon search option?
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>>144829890
I believe both will occur. By sharing it online, you allow other people to access it and also open yourself up to multiplayer options.

I may be crazy though, you may have access to multiplayer without sharing it. But I'm almost 100% sure that sharing it allows others to download it, that's for sure.
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>>144822667
If they want to feel like they contributed they can fucking solo the boss like a real hoontah does.

As far as I'm concerned if someone's summoning they've already given up on that, and their only job at that point is to stay alive so I don't waste vials or bullets when they just run head first into their death.
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Dont have a video but I just ran up to a ladder, tried to climb it and fell on my ass. Is that normal?
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Well, I just beat The One Reborn. Nightmare of Mensis seems a bit difficult; is 50-60 underleveled for it?
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>>144830373
You fall off a ladder when you run out of stamina on it.
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>>144830718
That is exactly what happened, thank you. I thought it was a trick ladder or something.
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>>144822340
Good Gems? No. Twink Gems? Yeah. People want jolly co-op. They don't want to watch you melt a boss in like two seconds.

I know someone is going to bring this up so I am going to go ahead and get it out of the way by saying that it was an exception. Why was it an exception. The host asked for help. I told them I was super OP and would melt him. They said they didn't care and just wanted him dead.
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>>144830373
Around ladders, never relax
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>>144831186
>Ladders become mimics at random
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>>144830545
60 should probably be the norm, but I get coop there even at level 80.
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>running around
>realize I went a way I didn't want to
>BoldHuntersMark
>literally facepalm my way out of there
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>>144830545
I usually tackle it around 70-80 because I do the DLC stuff first, and at that level the entire thing's a cakewalk, so 50-60 is probably just about right.
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>>144831932
Alright, just wondering. The combo of werewolves plus that weird Eye of Sauron thing leaves me no room to breathe, and then the spiders rape me. Got killed in one hit by a babby spider.
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>>144832236
Could be you want more Vit, since even if you go up to level 200 you're gonna get one-shot if you have no health. Kill the beasts with fire.
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>>144830545
>>144832236
Just sprint past them and into the building. Ignore all the items. You can deal with the "Eye of Sauron" later in the level, then back track to get the items.
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Commence the great shittening of the thread.
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>>144831191
>Replying 7 hours after their question just so you can post your epik ;^) whirlynig L2
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>>144832646
ignore the retards and maybe they'll die of insecurity
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>>144832646
I actually replied to it about 90 minutes later.
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>tfw it's gonna be +16 tonight
How the hell am I supposed to sleep in this heat?
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>>144832923
Make a new character and run through Central Yharnam, its so peaceful it will put you to sleep.
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>>144833083
Why didn't you roll to your feet either time?
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>>144833248
then it wouldn't be a funny gif
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>>144833248
You can't roll out of a fall, only a knock back.
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>>144833434
touché
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>>144833248
You can't roll out of a fall. You would think you would know this from all the time you spend in these threads.

Why didn't you finish college?
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>>144833749
You have to play the game to learn these things.
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>>144833878
touché
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>>144833749
How would I know if I never fall? I play, I just don't play badly. :^)
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>>144834054
I would consider dropping out of college a pretty bad fall, but hey, to each his own.
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>>144834228
I wasn't aware there was a college questline in BB.
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Ironic shitposting is still shitposting and ironically giving an attention whore attention is still giving an attention whore attention.
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>>144829704
>Lower Loran Layer 1
Ailing Loran Layer 1

Probably better to just jump into NG+ and buy 'em, though.
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and there goes the thread...

I'm going to sleep. Fuck all y'all.
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>>144834917
Good night, anon.
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So I just killed Mergo's Wet Nurse, but she never entered her phase two

Anyone encountered that bug?
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>>144834917
I was busy playing Bloodborne, anon, what did you want to talk about? Favorite Lovecraft shortstories?

>>144834805
While that's true, its kind of a hassle to do NG+ if you don't have some nice gems.
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>>144835639

My favourite Lovecraft story isn't even by Lovecraft.

Also someone enlighten me on gems, I've just been slapping every +physical gem on my sword and I'm still at 400 AR with 40 SKL and +10
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>>144835639
You don't have to do anything in NG+ before you're able to get nice gems, though. So long as you grab the chalices and story materials in NG you can jump straight into NG+ and solely do chalices until you're at the point of Korea-tier OP before even triggering Papa G's fight.
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>>144836131
I'm not sure what kind of enlightenment you need. Gems are used to increase damage. Some have secondary and tertiary effects. Some have curses. The best ones are found in depth 5 FRC root dungeons. The OP has links for specific information you might be interested in.
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>>144836131
Oh, tell me more. I'm just reading through Lovecraft right now and digging it. So far my favorites are Rats in the Walls, Pickman's Model and Under the Pyramids.

As for gems, I'd recommend grinding the Winter Lanterns in Fishing Hamlet for the best physical gems barring Chalice stuff. Pretty easy to do with frenzy resistant gear.

>>144836260
I guess, I'm just always so anal about jumping into NG+. I feel like the moment I do it I'll remember something I missed.
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>>144836131
>enlighten me on gems
Well what are your questions man
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>>144835639
My favorite is Shadow out of Time

>>144836260
NG+ is a hassle because you have to go through and open up all the areas an shit again. It's a hassle if you just want to co-op and PvP.
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>>144835639
My favorite is The Color Out Of Space.

In almost every other Lovecraft story, even though certain elements are supposed to be incomprehensible, you still visualize it in a concrete way, just by habit. There's something about trying to imagine an impossible color that helps to break that habit,
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Should I even bother continuing to level up in NG+? I'm level 100 now but I want to still be able to summon
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>>144837851
Nah, level 98 is plenty even for NG+, and that is the best level for PvP and co-op. If you level up much past that you will start finding it harder and harder to find co-op outside of the SRRC.
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>>144837851
No
With how strong you get by the endgame, NG cycles don't match the difficulty of going through NG until about NG+4/5 as far as I can tell

Just make sure you at least pick up mensis/hamlet gems
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>>144837838
Reading that one right now, and its awesome.

>>144837851
As long as you don't level past 117 you're okay, but even that is kinda high. 100 is honestly a perfect place to stop.
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>>144838467
117 is really too high.
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How to Abhorrent Beast in Ailing Loran? There's really no safe place to be around him and he moves around fast as fuck.
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>>144842798
Dodge twice rather than only once for every attack. Your aim is to get behind him.
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>>144842798
Dodge through the punch and hit him in the face
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>>144843059
>>144843321
Thanks. I actually switched from my bloodletter to my +10 bowblade and that fucked him up right quick and easy.
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>>144842798
>>144843478
Alternatively, if you want to bitch it out and take it easy, peg him with a poison knife and run around a lot. His poison resist is dismal, to the point that one knife is enough to poison him.
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Two Radials and a Triangle are optimal slots for physical/nourishing gems, right?
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>>144837481

I was wondering where to get TOP LEVEL MAXIMUM GEMS, but "chalice dungeons" seem to be the answer, as they always are
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>>144844540
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?pli=1
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Anyone want to run through Defiled with me? I could do it alone, but I couldn't be assed to actually try again after however many builds. I just want to get my gems and runes already.
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>>144844517
Yes for physical, I think nourishing wants Radial/Triangle/Waning.
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>>144845210
Shit. I think you're right. Fuck.
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Anyone want to help me with Micolash? NG+
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>>144845743
Sure, be there in a bit.
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>>144845796
Pass is bbg
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I've been using the Thread Cane the whole game, about to start the DLC. What's a good second weapon: Blade of Mercy, Burial Blade, Rakuyo, or something else?
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>>144845796
Thank you so much. I just needed help with staggering him
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>>144846054
BoM and Rakuyo would compliment the cane best. Burial Blade and Church Pick are fine weapons, but their best assets are the reach and crowd control capabilities which the cane already has, whereas BoM and Rakuyo thrive on getting in tight and shredding shit up, which you can do with the cane but nowhere near as well.

That being said, BB is a lot heavier than the cane which makes it better for staggering larger enemies/bosses. In the end they're all Skl weapons anyway so pick whichever you like most, upgrade 'em, then change 'em around whenever you feel like it. By the time you can get BB or Rakuyo the game will have shit out enough chunks for it.
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>>144846501
No problem. Micolash in NG is a joke; go into NG+ and Call Beyond can oneshot you. The extra help keeping up the offensive is way more help than with a lot of other bosses.
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>>144846675
That's what's been happening to me. I'd get in the room for the second phase and get one shot a second later
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>>144846564
Alright, thanks.
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>>144846849
If you stay close he should never even use aCB.
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>>144844517
>>144845347
Nourishing depends on the weapon and what secondaries you want. Lost is the best for primary damage, since you can get up to 21.5% on Waning and Triangle over radials' 19.5% max, but if you're using something like HMLS, you might want +15 flat physical secondary, which doesn't appear on Waning.
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>>144848052
It's for the Amygdalan Arm.
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>>144846716
this is such a stupid and risky strat. You should always dodge towards his right side (your left). If you follow this strat you expose yourself all too much to his hitboxes.

Stop giving people shit advice
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>>144848552
You're better off getting a heavy abyssal and 2 27.2's on Amy Arm. Its primarily a strength weapon with limited arc scaling.
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>>144849014
>video showing taking like 20% of his health in like 15 seconds with almost no effort
>shit strategy
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>>144849085
Looks like you're right. I punched up the numbers and Tempering ends up doing more damage even before Nourishing is split between two defenses.
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How much of your Arcane stat is taken into effect when using the HMLS in both tricked and untricked states? Anyone able to compare a heavy arc (50) HMLS to one just using the base Arc and high STR/SKL?
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>>144851160
Almost none of your arc applies. The Arc scaling in on the beams.
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>>144851160
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1doP2HShMmJcHZFTNSZ3yVFxbUu4U1aO6yHIk9-wQ1Wo/edit?pli=1#gid=222193878
Like it says, general rule is 50% of the physical multiplier for untricked, and 70% for tricked.
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>>144851940
I think he is asking about scaling not the damage split multipliers on attacks.
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So I've noticed hitting someone after they've been parries does additional damage even if you don't visceral them. Anyone know how much more damage you deal exactly? And if it's modified by skill or anything?

I'm trying to figure out if it's more effective to BMA+Cannon someone after they've been parried or if I should just visceral attack if I have 45 Skill.
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>>144851891
This is simply wrong. All untricked attacks get a minor damage bonus from Arc, all tricked attacks get a major damage bonus from Arc, and beams are pure Arc.
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>>144853202
I've found on non-skill characters that it's better to just heavy attack rather than visceral, but with 45 Skl you should be visceral-ing at every available opportunity.
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>>144853202
As far as I know, it adds regular counterhit damage as though you hit them when they were performing an action. So at 45 skill, you'll be better off going for the visceral.
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>>144852417
Then you're giving bad advice, since the lightwaves don't scale any differently with Arc compared to regular attacks; they just have different multipliers. It's not like the Tonitrus or Logarius' Wheel, which increase their Arcane scaling in tricked mode.
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>>144853202
You do twice as much dmg if your enemy is staggered. This stacks with oil urn for fire attacks btw
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How do you run your ayy lmaos /bbg/? 50 Vit and Arcane? 99 Arc?
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>>144854916
70 ARC is enough IMO
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Where can I get some good arcane crescent shaped gems?
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GAS THE BEASTS

BLOOD NOW
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>>144851160
>>144851891
>>144851940

I'm just wondering because my HMLS (Lost version) is feeling pretty weak atm. I just got it though honestly and I'm only BL45, with a few phys +9% gems and the 9% nourishing gem from under Iosefka's clinic. The untricked R2 stab is really the only attack with some "oomph" and the tricked version is what mostly feels shitty. I'm thinking it will fill out more with some decent gems and my goal stats. Anyone have wembs of the HMLS in action betwen 90-120 bl?

My stats atm are:
25 / 12 / 16 / 12 / 8 / 25
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>>144856035
Only Arcane waning (crescent) shape gem I've ever gotten was from Beast-Possessed Soul from Ailing Loran. I dont think there are any good waning Arcane gems besides Cold Abyssals from Loran Elder.
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>>144858589
Go 50 Strength for a better physical HMS but poor beams, 50 Arc for the other way around. 25 strength with 50 Arc is what I run and it does decent damage on the physical side, the beams hit really hard too. If you don't have a problem with going higher, adding 25 skill is good for the physical damage and helps visceral damage. I don't have any webms to show at the moment though sorry
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>It's a host summons me in a chalice while being in some random corner of the map, so I explore the chalice killing enemies in routes he hasn't gone through yet to help split the workload but he dies in some random corner because he needs his hand held or else he'll die from a slight breeze
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>>144825476
Deacons is easily their best ever mob boss, the theme and the pope's scream are phenomenal with headphones on, the soul transferring between deacons is interesting and keeps you thinking and targeting and moving, and the curse build up is the biggest tension building ''shit is getting real and you need to end this'' moment in the entire game.
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