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>>144789090
The fuck WG never lost an arm.
I just finished ACV's main story. Was this another poorly translated mess like AC4? I still trying to piece together what happened.
>MC is a Corporation shill and BTFOs the resistance and helps murder their leader
>MC is apparently one of Chief's rookies or something
>MC randomly defects and joins the resistance
>resistance fighters do resistance things together
>random side chapter where MC goes on a killing spree in the wastelands and murders a bunch of Terminators for no real reason
>resistance doesn't even actually find anything useful in the wasteland, the entire scavenging subplot is dropped entirely
>resistance goes back to doing resistance things
>RD is kill (but not really)
>Corporation betrays Father for no reason
>the resistance didn't take into account the idea that the Corporation might not vanish into thin air upon Father's dead/capture, suddenly the resistance's entire plan is a failure
>oh, and RD is randomly a Newtype genius and is back to kill you
>but not really, he's actually a jobber
>kill Chief a few more times
>game randomly ends with no closure whatsoever
>?????
Did I miss anything?
>>144804421
I don't think so, that's pretty much all of V's main line. Now proceed to the side missions and fight the Zodiacs.
>>144804421
The best closure you will get will be with the side story, look OP for more.
Well, just ordered Gundam Breaker 3, hopefully it's as fun to play as it looks like. At the very least I'll get 30 hours out of it just tooling around and building mobile suits.
>>144801425
It isn't missing an arm in the picture.
>>144804421
I think we're supposed to imply the player character is butthurt about getting shown up by Chief and decides sweet loli poon trumps douchebag aliens.
There was something they were looking for in the polluted area. I think it was weapons?
The Corporation sees it can get two birds with one stone and eliminates a good chunk of its problems in one fell swoop.
But you pretty much got it.
>>144830907
It's good that you're able to change the colors of parts to match others, because if I remember correctly building a decent collection of parts takes longer than one would expect.
>>144832669
If there comes a time that I'll play gundam breaker, I'll only recreate the Huckebein MK3.
>>144832669
Yea the color options are nice. I watched some gameplay on youtube and I'm happy to see that there's camo pattern options, something that I feel is often bizarrely absent in the various Gundam shows.
Not surprised it takes a long time to build up a parts selection. There's something like 150 MS units available. That's a fuckton of bits to collect. At least they brought Wing/Endless Waltz in though.
>turning White Glint into a pony
GOING TOO FAR AHAB
I didn't have the OP copy paste available to me. Sorry Ahab
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survive
Bump for Messer. Fucking Ahab
>>144838742Does that turn you on?
>>144857967
Forgot who I was
>>144857967
>2016 Penny still is complaining about ponies
Of course he's turned on by them otherwise why all his rage of not enough AC ponies.
>>144832234
>It isn't missing an arm in the picture.
Look closer, the arm is basically hanging by a couple of cables.
>>144804421
The MC is similar to the Chief, and didn't like being shown up, so he decides "screw it, I'll show them how important I am" so he turns to the resistance.
Chief is kinda like robo-kefka, so betraying Father wasn't out of the ordinary.
>>144867375
>robo-kefka
No, Chief is nothing like Kefka.
>>144867375
How is chief like kefka
Speak
we will miss you edgelord, messer. ;_;
>>144872417
Good ridance.
>>144872640
desu thou, never liked the guy from the start. Edgelord deserves getting NTR'd by his own cap and being edgy to death
>>144838742
Relax, boyo. The picture is older than your disease.
I'm pretty sure.
>>144870470
They both laugh like maniacs.
>>144857967I wanted to scream, but I didn't because it was 1:30 in the morning and there were other people in the house.But man, that scene was really brutal.
>>144872901
Hey now, that level of PTSD and rage makes him just as much of a Vagrant Gun as any one of us. And the last two episodes showed us that he's really not that bad of a guy, he's just a jerk because he doesn't want the nuggets to get dunked.
But at least the way is clear for Red and best guy.
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>>144871519
>sounds like he's having a gay old time when he genocides everyone
>constantly fights against obvious lesbians (Rosary/Terra)
>overthrows the leader of his faction (Father/Gestahl)
>fight him muliple times, him getting stronger each time
/served
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>>144874056
thats pretty standard stuff for your common villian.
>constantly fights against obvious lesbians (Rosary/Terra)
I think is usually Fran the one getting in the verbal fights.
>>144874391
Fran is confirmed not lesbian, though.
>>144874496
Isnt Rosary too? Wasnt she in love with Leon and I understand that there is people in the high command of Sirius with her Family name.
>>144874667
Probably. I also seem to recall that Terra was pretty hungry but lost to best girl.
>>144874962
Terra was more the type of "looking for love of anykind" with all her stuff of having her emotion supressed since being a baby and being just a living weapon for the empire, and settle with being the mother figure of a small town full of orphans
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>>144874391
STOP TEARING HOLES IN MY HEADCANON
>>144879608
>Headcanon
Ok, everyone share your own headcanon about the games.
BEGONE PAGE 10! THE RAVENS SHALL NEVER FALL
>>144881323
Shamir RaviRavi is Strayed's loving, but dominant mistress.
>>144881323
The routes of FA happened in a combined fashion. Strayed fought on WGs side, then joined ORCA. He was about to take the last Arteria, where he was betrayed by Otzdarva/Thermidor and driven off, yet escaped with his life. He then takes up Oldking on his offer and destroys Cradle 03, resulting in him fighting at Carpals and committing Genocide, destroying all Arteria facilities, clearing the Assault Cells, and then killing himself after sending a message to Fiona Jarnefeldt and the remnants of Line Ark that all major LYNX have met their demise. She uses her remaining military assets to ensure that nobody gets a hand on any Kojima tech, an easy task afer Strayed literally wiped out all of the corporations and the entire elite together with the cradles.
The remaining people on the surface struggle to survive for ages, and eventually the Kojima pollution fades.
Countless lifetimes come to pass, yadda yadda, Verdict Day happens.
>>144885706
Oh yeah. Line Ark were also the ones to seal the entire Kojima tech into the towers as their destruction would have taken even longer than the hundreds of years that collecting them took. Remember the towers used to be underground structures, which makes a lot more sense to store shit in.
I tried playing Verdict Day but I only got about three missions in before I quit. I just couldn't fucking see shit on the screen. So many HUD items and shit was just muddy in general.
I really liked the controls and general feel of the AC's but the fact that I was just shooting shit at a lock-on box was not too fun. Am I doing something wrong aside from not having a fuckhueg TV?
>>144886194
Not entirely sure what your problem is here. There's a few maps where a ton of sand is flying around I guess, but you can generally see most stuff pretty decent. Then again my TV is pretty large. I'd suggest upping brightness. I also don't see your problem with the HUD. It's just a circle. If you dislike it you can turn it off in options. Or do you mean scan mode? In that case I also don't see your problem. The only convoluted thing is the stats that show up when you scan a thing, and those aren't that important for story mostly. Just look at defense values. In general you can easily tell what kind of defenses an AC has after a while based purely on looks anyway.
>>144886194
Actually, are you on PS3? If so I could maybe show you some stuff and coop some missions with you.
Don't worry, I'll bring a junk AC at the start so I don't just rip the game apart before you get there and steal all the fun.
>>144886912
I'm playing fairly close to a 26" screen and all the hud stuff and overlays are just smashed together on top of low contrast graphics and it makes my head hurt and my heart sad.
>>144887147
Yes I am. I don't remember my PSN name off the bat though, lemme get back to you on that. Thanks for the offer for help
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>>144889151
Your brain is too slow and can't handle all that information.
Not trolling just my 2 cents.
>>144889151
My PSN is UristMcGamer if you don't wanna give yours out here. I'll be on for a couple hours
>>144889854
Maybe I've been spoiled by the visual and gameplay simplicity of For Answer for too long
>>144890123
Noted, thanks mate. Idk exactly when I might be on- at work right now.
>>144890721
Honestly For Answer is way more confusing to me, but that's because I don't play it much anymore. I keep trying to enter scan mode or turn boosters on and off.
>>144890721
>rehashed gundam game with grey and bloom everywhere
>"visual and gameplay simplicity"
>>144892229
You're just reinforcing his point. Also NEXTs are more powerful than like 90% of Gundams and mobile suits.
>>144896494
>Also NEXTs are more powerful than like 90% of Gundams and mobile suits.
Are you serious? I mean the general gundam isnt like a super robot kind of thing? always pulling new weapons or power out of their shinny asses?
>>144896846
Aside from Turn A because it's just so overpowered, NEXTs are larger and faster than every Gundam (not including mobile weapons). This is also taking into account that the scale changed between 4 and FA, so NEXTs in FA are huge compared to those in 4. I support that last claim with how large they seem when standing on top of Cradles, aerial cities that hold billions of people each.
>>144897382
>billions
meant millions, nevertheless each one has to be the size of a small country in order to hold 20 million people each
>>144897382
>I support that last claim with how large they seem when standing on top of Cradles, aerial cities that hold billions of people each
Wasnt that just a mistake by FROM? You know like the part when on VD you get killed and fly around as a human with jetpack, you are bigger than normal cars.
>>144897742
Possibly, unless there's a way to definitively know that it should probably be assumed that the most recent installment is canon.
>three people were signed in to Vagrant Guns at the same time
Whoa dang. I never thought I'd see the day.
>>144897940
The ACFA XMB Screen says NEXTs are one kilometer in height. Nothing ingane supports this, not in FA and not in VD.
>>144899441
And then you left immediately. And for such a shitty reason too.actually you're pretty cool
>>144896494
>You're just reinforcing his point. Also NEXTs are more powerful than like 90% of Gundams and mobile suits.
What the fuck is this guy talking about? Who gave you your license pilot?
Hump.
>>144900365
that sounds weird. In most ac games your mech is about 6-7 cars high. source: that one railway mission from Silent Line.
I wannabullysomeone in FA
>>144913116
Nice post, very constructive
Well, I thought I was going to get on tonight.
But then again, I also thought I wouldn't be working until 1:30 am.
>>144900365
That's because the NEXTs aren't a kilometer in height. The description threw me off for a long time, too, until I realized that it's a matter of poor grammar.
The 1000 meter tall machines you're battling aren't the NEXTs, they're the Arms Forts.
>>144901109
Yeah yeah, but you gotta pay for textbooks somehow.
>>144944703
Ah, that's what he referred to. I forgot what XMB meant.
Good day /acg/
>>144959087
good day
say hi to puchis
>>144964205
Puchis are made of love and unlike most of /aceg/ I love them with all my heart.
>>144966616
Absolutely agree, pal
bump
t. /gerg/
>>144971001
Refrain from doing anything degenerate to puchis' and admire from a distance, Buddy.
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>>144964205
I can't take any moe of this anime stuff.
>>144976317
I hope this is what you were after Penny.
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>>144975514
I shall create a new world.
A World without Puchis.
So do we all just ignore that the ch0n was dead for like three hours
>>144804421
wow, spot-on.
christ ACV was bad in the story department.
>>144944703
>textbooks
NNNNNNEEEERRRRRD
>>144976317
once again pendragon proves that he is the best poster on /acg/
>>144944703
I distinctly remember it saying PILOT 1000 meter tall war machines. But maybe that's just my weird memory
When's sfm Armored Whores?
Three people on right now. Just need one more to remember the good ol' times.
For Urist.
>>144913116
Most mobile suits have like 1 G of acceleration max and can be destroyed by a few beam rifle shots. The average NEXT, on the other hand, is capable of accelerating at rates that should be physically impossible and can tabk quite a few plasma rifle shots, and that's ignoring PA.
Good games guys. We just need one more person and we can actually have a full team of /acg/ players. We got us a merc and actually found some opposing teams to fight. We also may or may not have ended the war.
>>144975514
Sure thing
>>144975514
>admire from a distance
>>144987848
Currently at work my man Ahab
>>144998171
>Ignoring PA
PA is probably one of the OPest thing mecha have ever seen withouth falling in "game breaker" territory. I a force field that manage to reduce the damage of basically everthing and contaminate the battlefield strong enough that if you or your mecha/vehicle arent equipped to resist the contamination you will probably end dying anyways if you survive a fight against a NEXT.
>>145039456
Bump.
>>145036241
>you will probably end dying anyways if you survive a fight against a NEXT.
maybe i need to play it again but when/how is this explained?
>>145045970
I don't think it's directly stated often, mostly just implied. It's why AC4 has missions where you're not allowed to use PA, since the contamination would be lethal to whatever you're trying to protect/capture.
I think the Amazigh mission briefing also mentions something about how he prefers to fight solo so he doesn't risk contaminating his allies.
None of this really gets brought up in ACFA though since at that point nobody cares about Kojima contamination due to the elite living in the cradles.DEEPEST LORE
>>145039456
You're a spy from the other /acg/ aren't you?
>>145045970
Kojima poisoning most likely, those God particles will find a way to consume you as well
>>144881323
So after most of the population dies/bugs off to Mars/Jupiter, all that's left on Earth is Kojima radiation and a bunch of dumb hicks. Eventually these hicks mutate and gain powers akin to magic thanks to the Kojima. Not knowing any better, they call it soul magic.
But then some dick goes and ruins it for everybody by summoning a bunch of demons.
>>144978264
Hey, at least I play video games.
Speaking of which, you know what you should do some time?
>>144975514
Don't bother with it. Somebody's been going around to various generals spamming Puchimas for some reason. Someone on /aceg/ thinks it may be Barneyfag, but it's just speculation.
He's just an animal. He can't even understand what we're saying.
>>145047968
To defile such cute puchis' this person must be punished with KOJIMA FIRE!
Hey guys. Just got Verdict Day today. This game is pretty fucking well made. I'm going to have to spend some time figuring out good loadouts though. Trying out shield and shotgun approach and it's not treating me well.
>>145050691
Please stop reminding the thread that you have the absolute worst taste in anime possible.
>>145052004
Essential VD info:
When you're not shooting at something, always go into scan mode. You use less energy while in scan mode and also recover it faster, so you can maximize your energy output by constantly switching back and forth as needed.
Also, scan mode is just generally helpful. Throw down recon units constantly (you'll literally never run out of them, the game lets you carry way too many) and stay aware of enemy positions. Also scan bosses, ACs, and any other enemy you're having trouble with so you know what weapons to use against them.
Try to carry at least two damage types for your general story mode AC builds. When you run into something that's resistant to your main weapon, you can just switch out to your backup and take it down easily with a secondary damage type.
Rifles and Battle Rifles are my go to weapons most of the time, I'd recommend trying them out. They're pretty straightforward and work for just about every situation. Shields are okay but are better for special builds instead of general use. Shotguns are alright but they're not so good for a primary weapon, I'd suggest getting a more general purpose weapon like the rifles to use with it.
>>145052546
That might be your opinion but I shall carry on, even if I am a sinner in your eyes.
>>145052694
Thanks mate. I've got a pulse machinegun on the shoulder pod, which is actually more effective than the shotgun. I've only just started playing so the choice of weapons is pretty small.
desu I've spent most of my time in the emblem editor.
>>145055073
>I've spent most of my time in the emblem editor
Ace pilot detected. It's proven fact that an AC with a good emblem and a good paint job will always beat an AC with stock emblems and shitty paint.
Speaking of paint, I discovered a neat trick. If you want an extremely bright AC, make a decal that's just a single big square of your color of choice. Then apply that decal on top of each AC part entirely. Basically, the game has a limited brightness on the base AC paint colors, but that limit doesn't come into play on emblems and decals. So once you manually apply this extra layer of paint via decals, you can get ridiculously bright ACs.
That might be common knowledge though, idk. Anyone else got cool customization tips while we're on the subject?
>>145055436
That's been common knowledge since FA. Some guy still has some paint tutorials up on YT on how to give your AC the illusion of being gold, and stuff like that.
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>>144661685
Can you hear this racket?
I can hear it and it hurts my ears
I have no idea why there is someone who has excessive obsession with puchis
Nice emblems m8. If you want to I can maybe trade you my Bundesadler sometime.
You should really join the /acg/ team, we need more warm bodies.
Some more things you may not know:
Defense s work in terms of Thesholds in ACVD. If your defense is higher than the damage of the weapon you're getting shot at with, even by one point, you will resist the damage and take a lot less. This means that for an online sortie AC, there's usually specific weapons you want to cover, such as the three-shot Battle Rifle (2036CE), All Rifles (1823KE), or all HEAT machine guns (1111CE). On a lightweight AC you will have to live with only getting around 1000 max and will have to compensate with speed and not being locked on to. This is way easier against actual players rather than an AI since those track you perfectly.
Every leg type has a specific defense it excels in, and in general you'll want to use the rest of the parts to cover your ass from the other two types.
KE defense: Lightweight and Medium Biped, Lightweight Revjoint
CE defense: Quad, Heavy Revjoint
TE defense: Heavy Biped, Tank
It's perfectly fine to stack defenses for missions if you know your weakness won't really come up in the mission, and if you really want to, you can always cover that weakness with shields. This is why Quads often carry TE shields in their hanger.
This same principle applies to enemies, which is why it's important to use scan mode. Ineffective damage isn't the end of the world, but if you go and attack that 3500+ TE def tank with a pulse gun in close combat or waste one of your precious 4 KARASAWA shots on it, you should reevaluate your life choices.
Tanks can use ready-position weapons freely (I.e. dual wield them) and their kick will reliably one shot most other ACs if you can hit it.
If you want to coop sometime let me know.
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Woops. Obviously meant for
>>145055073
Emergency bump
>>145059398
Seriously, thanks for the tips mate. I don't have xbox live at the moment because I live in the Australian countryside, so online multiplayer is kind of out of the question. Looking to move to Sydney by the end of the year though, so if you're still playing then I'd definitely be down for some multi.
On the subject of scanning, I need to get a better understanding of how the graphs in the game work, because I just get bombarded with info while the game is still going and can't really take the time to see what the stats of the target being scanned are.
Also I'm loving how fucking fast you can go in this. Much quicker than the other ACs I've played.
>>145063276
>I don't have xbox live
Don't worry anon, nobody else in this thread does either. This is /ps3/ general m8.It's just you and me on the red ring box.
>scanning
The only thing you need to pay attention to are the enemy's defense values. Don't worry about all the charts and stuff that pop up with it. Just go into a mission and scan an immobile enemy that's out of range and study the readout, then learn where the important info is. You can ignore 90% of the stuff once you know what's actually relevant.
>>145064075
Bloody plebs with their free online.
I'm not jealous or anything.
>>145063276
You're welcome m8. If you have any questions feel free to ask. The few people who still play this game need to stick together.
Really the graphs to the right aren't that important. They show whether your weapons are effective against the enemies defense. All you need to pay attention to are the defense values. Go into test mode and study the readout on the tank or the sniper mechs on layout 2. The other thing that can be helpful are the numbers to the left and below the thing you're scanning, they show the damage type and attack power of the unit's weaponry. But really this is largely unimportant for anything but multiplayer, and even there you can see the weapons people are bringing in the intro cutscene.
And yeah, sorry, but we're all on PS3. I just kinda assumed that's where you were too. Maybe you can get one for cheap? If I had the money I'd buy you one myself but I'm a piss poor uni student who has no idea how to pay next months rent.
>>145064631
Looks like they go for pretty cheap now on ebay. I might see about picking one up.
>>145064912
Please do m8. Then we'll finally have four active players again
>>145065361
Haha, you make it sound so appealing. I can see one thats ~$70aus including postage. I'll mill it over tonight whether I want to grab it.
Hows the PS3 for hacking? A custom firmware would rule out online wouldn't it? ...Also now that I think about it, torrenting bluray games would be a nightmare. I think I'll have to go legit if I buy this.
Oh wow, EB Games is actually doing them preowned for $100 now. I might just do that.
>>145065581
>you make it sound so appealing
That's because it is. This game is really fun when you get a crew of people together.
>hacking
Uh, I have no idea. I have always bought console games legit. It's not like the AC games that aren't Last Raven are incredibly expensive to get used anyway. I got my copy for like 10€ a couple years ago.
>>145066274
Yeah, I'm just going to pop in to the local EB when I get a chance and grab one, see what games I can grab while I'm at it.
>>145066363
Ayy that's the spirit
Just message Ahab if you want on the team, his PSN name is the same as here
>>145066472
Sick one. I'll probably get back to you blokes in a week or so once I've sourced everything.
>>145066363
And some more infodump because I'm on my way to class and bored:
The three weapon types have different damage falloff. KE (Kinetic) weapons fall off linearly, which is pretty self-explanatory. It's a bullet, it does damage by going fast, air and gravity makes it go slower over time.
CE (Chemical) weapons do damage by exploding. This means that they do not have any damage falloff, as the payload of the projectile is always the same. That doesn't mean they have infinite range, and Battle Rifles have a way slower muzzle velocity than regular rifles due to the projectile being heavier, but if somebody manages to snipe you with a BR across the map, it will hurt just as hard as getting shot point blank.
Finally, there's TE (Thermal) weaponry. They do damage by being concentrated balls or beams of hotness, probably a superheated plasma or gaseous substance. They have barely any falloff as long as you're in their effective range, but as soon as you exit that range, the energy dissipates and the projectile vanishes. You may have noticed that your PMG projectiles explode into blue fireworks at a certain range. That's what happens with laser rifles too, except way further out.
Oh, and Laser Rifles are chargeable and will constantly drain EN while you hold the shot.
So much for that. Now some movement stuff.
If you hold the Quick Boost button for a second before fully pressing it in, you'll do a second stage Boost, which goes further. Hold it too long and you'll just kick.
If you have forward momentum while skidding along the ground and turn off your boosters, you can drift turn. This is a quick way to turn around and an integral part of getting out of a flanking situation. Tanks cannot drift turn, but they get a turning speed boost while stationary. Ranks also cannot walljump, but they can jump while above water, which everyone else can't do.
I'd also suggest changing the control setup, default one is pretty bad.
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>>145067475
Oh okay, so the graphs are showing damage over distance. I was looking at them and thinking "LABEL THE FUCKING AXIS!"
This is good stuff mate. I'm copying it away to a text document for later use.
>>145047968
>headcanon
Explain the absence of ruins of modern cities or the lack of gigant robots buried in the ground? what about the arms forts, those left a massive corpse behind.
>>145067475
continued finally
So, control setup. The default one sucks. Do what you're comfortable with, but you need to be able to hit all movement and weapon inputs without moving your hands away from the sticks. here's what I use (PS3 button names):
L1: left weapon
R1: right weapon
L2: jump/boost drive
R2: quick boost/boost charge
X: Booster on/off
O: Recon Unit
Square: Weapon Switch
Triangle: Glide Boost
R3: Scan Mode
L3: Shoulder Weapon
You could put Glide Boost on L3, but then using missiles becomes a huge pain.
>>145079161
Some more small stuff:
Every leg type has a different falling speed while boosters are engaged. Here's them sorted by falling speed, starting with fastest:
Tanks
Heavy Bipeds
Heavy Revjoints
Medium Bipeds
Light Bipeds
Light Revjoints
Tetrapods
Quads are the slowest on descent by far.This means that while a Reverse Joint can easily gain altitude just by using it's super-high jump, a Quad can jump off a building and float ouward, staying above the enemy team for days. This, combined with their high defense when not built for mobility, makes them popular as "flying fortresses". This is one of the most boring meta builds there are though.
