Waiting on the next big update edition
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>new WWAUT
http://steamcommunity.com/games/232090/announcements/detail/939377785240818217
>Latest update (1033)
http://steamcommunity.com/games/232090/announcements/detail/939376256549566331
>KF2 Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/kf2vg
>Check the pastebin for tutorials, Crash fix, Downloads, Console commands and more:
http://pastebin.com/gCA9DkDw
>Guides for beginners:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=425843240
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=435407843
>Spreadsheet with lots of stats about Perks, Damage, Weapons, Etc.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GDpg2mN1l_86U_RaDug0glFx8cZCuErwxZLiBKl9SyY/
>Fix mouse sensitivity
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1369921&postcount=9
I suggest you set KFInput.ini to read only to prevent the settings from getting reverted.
>Servers IPs:
Press F3, use the following console commands to join the servers:
American Servers:
open 4chas.ftp.sh?password=rage
open 4chas.ftp.sh:7787?password=rage
open 4chas.ftp.sh:7797?password=rage
open 4chas.ftp.sh:7772?password=rage
West Coast
open 23.94.241.50:7772?password=rage
European server:
open 85.236.101.21:8077?password=rage
open 51.254.187.123:7777 no password
*Visit 4chas.ftp.sh in your browser for Live server stats and IPs.
ALIVE
Second for slinging a fat wad of semen all over healslut's soft toes
RIP in peace
>Implying we won't die before E3
>>144231750
Top taste
>>144231998
This tbqh
I'm surprised we even made it this far
>>144231398
>>new WWAUT
>5 days old
>adding the dead american servers back into the OP
ded
>>144235448
Rev up that crovel
>>144236935
rev up that meat grinder
>>144231998
t-this...
>>144238767
We can't let cyst-chan down, we need to stay alive for him!
LET IT DIE
>>144240935
NO! We can stubbornly autistic like other generals.
>10 Days and 5 Hours until E3
It's just flying past gents.
Why didn't you let it die?
thread is about as relevant as planetside 2 general
die
die
die
die
die
guys pls, /kfg/ needs your support to live
>>144243946
postanime
>>144243946
postfoot fetish
>>144243946
postbig belgan
>>144243946
You know what /kfg/ needs?
A short break.
One week.
Let it die, and in one week bring it back. There will be some new info to talk about, and it'll be right before E3, great timing.
On a dignified note, looks like the PS4 Media confirmed Deadline and DeathSentence.
>>144244708
This thread should discuss tomorrow's WWAUT, if there is one.
THEN we take a week break.
>/kfg/ is alive again
Great, now I canwhine about how they nerfed the double barreled's ammo count what the fuck Tripwire uninstalled fuck you
>>144243946
Post **Chaika**
>>144244998
>Objective
>Hold out until the WWAUT finishes charging up
Goddamn Temple of the Past I fucking hate this mission.
>>144245145
>haven't playes the game in weeks
>hear they hiked ammo count and prices
>but apparently, not content with the boomstick's crazy shell cost, they lowered the ammo
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
FUCK YOU, SUPPORT IS IN A GOOD PLACE. BUY CRATES :^)
>>144245145
It's extremely useful within its range, and weighs only four. It's for the best that it doesn't last forever.
>>144245439
>they lowered the ammo
they didn't
they raised the ammo of most other weapons
>>144245443
>It's for the best that the best general zed removal gun Support had is now shit.
Yeah who played support anyways I'm sure the player count of the game will be fine without them.
>>144245805
M4 is the new hotness, give that a spin
>>144245805
>is now shit.
how
what stats changed
from what value to what value
>>144246304
didnt only the ammo cost change?
>>144246202
M4 is fucking garbage. I tried it when my poor DB could barely hold up through the 3rd wave and it was utter trash.
>>144246585
>m4 is garbage
im starting to believe youve never played support
What happened to the old killing floor devs who made the mod for ut2004?
>>144246585
>Same damage as an AA-12 with the same spread
>High stumble power
>Shit
>>144246515
boomstick's ammo cost has been 5dosh/shell or 10dosh/"mag" since early access's start
>>144247080
>An AA12 that doesn't have a mag.
>Not utter shit compared to two barrels of fuck
>>144247235
must have confused it for something else i guess
>>144247543
>not reloading after every shot
>>144248220
>Implying I can when the piece of shit has no spread and there's zeds coming at me from every possible angle.
DB was my friend through thick and thin. M4 is some punk busta pretending to be a AA12
>>144248220
That's all well and good, if you're hiding behind teammates or playing hard, but some of us have zeds sprinting to us
>>144248614
it doesnt take 8 shots to clear whatever is in your way, as long as you don't empty it the thing reloads fairly quick
>game is already +1 year old
>still far from being complete
Anyway is demo still shit? Last time I played was before the gunslinger.
>>144248809
demo is shit if your team is shit or you arent level 25
>>144248809
It's getting 1 new weapon and a skill tree rework soon™
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=117915
>>144249058
Fuck Demo. HSG when? If they're taking my DB I need an alternative.
>single barrel DB shot
>reload
>unload both shells
they will fix this right?
>>144249132
>If they're taking my DB
what
>>144249132
>DBS and HSG lover
Like looking into a mirror, HSG would have been a fun tier 1.
>>144249830
12ga from 12rd detachable mags, compared to the other options of shotguns?
No way that'd be balanced at the bottom.
Tier 2 at least.
>Check Payday 2's store page out of curiosity
>100% positive recent reviews
>Apparently they removed MTs
C'mon Tripwire, you can still do it right tooWho am I kidding
>>144246935
Buried in Gibson's backyard.
>>144251206
>inb4 "they didn't really remove it, blah blah blah"
>>144251206
>Apparently they removed MTs
But they didn't.
>>144251484
there it is
>Try to kite
>Get pushed around like a rubber ball by every single attack
>Can't aim for shit
Why did they thought this was a good idea again?
>>144253176
They thought that the problem of Zerkwalling, caused by an AI targeting issue, could be fixed by simply making Zeds shove people out of the way.
In other words, they tried to take an ineffective and lazy shortcut.
>>144253176
it's a good idea, they just implemented it lazy as FUCK
crawlers and shit shouldn't knock you back at all. they need to tone down the knockback on everything bar large zeds and bosses
>>144253352
the result is that they made zerkwalling slightly harder
and made every other way to play the game more harder
zed knockback encourages zerkwall
>>144253665
Uh huh.
Zerks now just have to take a step forward every time they get hit, while everyone else has to be able to move just as well as a Zerk to make sure they aren't jammed into a spot and pinballed to death.
I mean it's just retarded.
If a big guy sends me flying it makes sense, he's huge. But a crawler should not swipe me with a claw and send me flying five metres away. It's just classic current TW: lazy, ineffective and causes more problems than it solves.
Now comes the part where TW look at KF2's 52% rating and say "Well what would provoke such a reaction from the players?!"
well, they were convinced that Demo is over powered, but now we can see that they have listened to the community after all, because demo is getting a buff.
So there is hope.
>>144255421
There has been a lot of "hope" in the past year.
I will believe it when I see it.
>>144252537
>>144251484
>>144251206
what happened uh?
>>144254064
>get patted by a cyst
>sent a couple meters to the side
>get kicked by a fleshpound
>same distance roughly
It still annoys me they made clot varients work backwards to their original intent, feels so inconsistent
>these zeds are unique in they can keep you immobilized until they die
>LETS HAVE THEM SEND EVERYONE FLYING TOO TO ESCAPE
>>144256620
Overkill stated that as of Patch X, "crates" that drop will be free to open.
Faggots then feel the need to point out that previous crates still require a key to open, thus saying that microtransactions are still a thing.
>>144256620
They released and update saying they were making the Black Market free, when all they were doing was making future crates free to open. All the old crates still require keys to open, and they also removed the chance for keys to drop so now you can only open them with money. But stupid people see "free" and think this means they removed microtransactions, and stupider people get angry whenever people point out it's the opposite.
>>144257303
but if the previous crates that still need keys exist, then the microtransactions are still a thing
lol?
>>144246935
Alex did that multiplayer fps about divers and sharks
>cant carry m79 and rpg at the same time
WHY THE FUCK NOT? THIS CLASS SUCKS ANYWAYS
>>144261116
M79 is going to be a Tier 2 VERY SOON
Weight will probably be adjusted to match
>>144261116
>Would take a shitty weapon over the pussy-moistening hotness that is C4
>>144261228
so they're adding in that M32 that nigga was making in his off time?
>>144261116
>M79 does 225 damage
>HX25 does 210 damage
the M79 is an overpriced and heavier Tier 1
>>144261414
Uh... no.
At least Yoshiro hinted no.
"We're bringing back an old favourite. No NOT that one."
I reckon it'll be the M4 203.
>>144261290
>7 C4
why would tripwire do this
>>144261710
Plz
all I need is an Aimpoint Comp M2 and no fucking retarded glowing lights and I can make a reskin to look like my old issued rifle, like in Insurgency
because this 9mm AR just ain't cutting it
>>144262152
>9mm
pretty sure it shoots 22 lr
>>144262316
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/838489/promag-magazine-ar-15-9mm-luger-32-round-polymer-black
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/979722/promag-conversion-magazine-ar-15-cmmg-ciener-tactical-solutions-sig-522-conversions-22-long-rifle-30-round-polymer-black
which looks familiar?
>>144262885
interesting theyd call it a varmint rifle rifle in game considering that name usually specifies .223 rounds
>>144259197
I didn't say they were wrong.
It's just that they need to be all technical just to prove a point.
What are the odds for such a drop?
>>144264383
lucky fucker
all I ever get are caps
>>144263210
because tripwire are "gun nuts" and would rather call a mag a clip.
>>144263210
yeah the "varmint" name and "civilian" description are absolutely retarded for a 3rd burst 9mm
but I guess if they admitted that is was an smg, that'd go against the "smgs are swat's thing" concept that they were kicking around then, and still might do
>>144264383
Holy fuck that actually looks nice.
10/10 would use for Wave 1 before selling.
Should I just unfriend him?
>>144265082
Yes.
>>144264823
>use for Wave 1 before selling.
Knife fighting in an arena of fallout is the funnest way to wave 1, and leaves enough ammo that you may as well keep it for wave 2.
Now that rounds are 9 dosh, though, buying any ammo to keep it going wave 3+ is way less appealing, though.
>>144265082
>perk training map
>vac secured
the irony is off the charts
>>144264814
they could have just said it was a Department of Energy rifle they found and copied.
and made it very sex
>>144265082
do it
fuck illegitimate 25s who dont know what the fuck they're doing
>medic isn't killing trash while i deal with scrake
>ask him why he wasnt shooting trash around scrake
>"i thought im only supposed to heal"
>>144265082
Level 25 disappointments are fair-weather friends at best, I say yeah.
>>144265450
sounds adorably frustrating
I haven't paid attention to this game since the first tiny content update and I still see there is absofuckinglutely nothing released worth looking at, huh? I guess I should have learned with the $30 early access fucking garbage only to get hit in the mouth with a sale a few weeks later.
Are their forums still politically correct as fuck?
>>144267217
>first tiny content update
>absofuckinglutely nothing
"No".
If you're someone who lasted played on the Lord of the Manor Update, there's fucking heaps for you to do now.
ded
>>144270092
b-but the wwaut
>>144272076
there will be nothing worthwhile in it fám
>>144272076
Yeah you right
I know your style:
Pussy
CAUSE I'M FUCKIN IT
>>144272189
webm of railgun or cryo grenade
if not, I will cryo
excuse me i have a question
sharpshooter WHEN????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>144274393
They'll let us know at E3
>>144274571
Good GIF right here
>>144274571
"revenge of the zeds"
zeds are so underwhelmingly underpowered that mode is unbalanced as fuck
they should just scrap it and take it out of the game instead wasting time on a mode no one plays
>>144275659
I am looking forward to looking at the Steam Store in the future and seeing the new banner for the E3 update, instead of the current banner, a constant reminder of the worst update yet and easily the greatest failure flop feature added so far.
sometimes i play commando and use semi auto and pretend i'm playing sharpshooter
>>144277773
Soon your pretending will end. The Ascension draws near.
I said it before and I say it again now.
With each day that passes we draw closer to Sharpshooter's release. Soon we will be restored.
>>144278013
i bet it'll be shit when it comes out
i bet nothing will feel as good as xbow in kf1
>>144277773
>20% damage bonus if you pick semi or auto fire modes
were they drunk when assigning the commando perks?
>>144278292
Good thing they're "fixing" commando again.
>>144278186
Knowing TW, it may very well be shit.
But at least it won't be bad as debut Demo.
is there a weapon that feels more unsatisfying than the microwave gun?
>>144279864
The S&W 500.
>opinions
>>144279864
For me it's the 1858s.
I just feel nothing.
>>144279905
Oh wait, UNsatisfying. Never mind, I'm retarded.
>>144275132
>>144280006
Yeah I was gonna say, whatahutalkinabeet?
>>144280063
It's like you perfectly summarized my KF2 update experiences.
>>144279942
For sure, painfully average.
EVERYTHING else has something appreciable about its performance: capacity, power, speed, ammo, weight, low recoil, parry, SOMETHING.
Single 1858's performance is "low capacity gun".
Dual 1858s' performance is just... "gun".
>>144280006
>>144279905
Most satisfying, SW500 is a consistent pleaser, but RPG rarely provides the most satisfying moments in the game by far; knockout nuclear headshots.
>>144281924
It's a better 9mm with the added pleasure of needing to manage ammo, what's not to like?
>>144284003
compared to the dual 9mm theyre garbage
>>144284003
Well, it has only slightly more damage than the 9mm (which is only really useful when bodyshotting instead of aiming properly, or against Bloats) and in return it has some large downsides compared to the 9mm:
>weighs way more (single 9mm weighs nothing, so)
>even with 2 1858's you have less ammo loaded in the two combined than a single 9mm
>way longer reload
I mean since GS gets a damage bonus with the 9mm as well it's not a downright BAD weapon since it's usable, and you can always use the 9mm if you prefer it, but at best it's an extra ammo pool that isn't very satisfying to use, at worst it's just a downgrade from a weapon every perk has.
WAKE ME UP
>>144286387
CAN'T WAKE UP
>>144284003
>a better 9mm
Better in only damage. Inefficient damage, at a cost.
9mm/medsmg are interesting for having especially low base damage, 15, too little to decap trash without benefits.
AR15/Medpistol/RegularShotguns/SA80 are interesting for their 20/25 base damage per projectile, optimal to decap trash, without overkill. With benefits, 1shot crawlers without overkill.
AK12 is interesting at 35 base damage, you can get perk benefits letting it 2shot clots/cysts/slashers extremely efficiently, making trash body shots in general satisfying.
SCAR/1911's 50 base damage 2shots clots/cysts/slashers with flawless efficiency without benefits, and with benefits, they'll 1shot bloat heads and 3shot husk/siren heads very efficiently. In the upcoming commando rework, SCAR with benefits will 1shot stalkers, too.
But 1858s are at 30 base damage. The other attributes of the gun had to be compromised in order to deliver this extra damage beyond the 18 it takes to make a projectile 1shot trash heads. The compromising of those other attributes, making them an average bore, made 1858s unsatisfying for trash heads. AR15 leaves 1858s in the dust at shooting trash heads and crawlers, 1shotting with way better capacity and reloads.
And yet this extra damage was not enough to make the 1858s satisfying for generally shooting trash bodies. A cyst without headshots takes half a gun's load!
>>144288880
>AR15 leaves 1858s in the dust at shooting trash heads and crawlers, 1shotting with way better capacity and reloads.
This is just my opinion, but I think the 1858s are at least better than the AR-15 because the iron sights on the AR-15 are just that fucking garbage.
Maybe I am a casual though because I can't headshot that well unscoped.
>9 Days and 19 Hours until E3
It's just flying past gents.
>>144289597
>headshot that well unscoped
AR15 is better on this account, for me.
Misses are less costly with the ar15 due to mag capacity and ammo costs.
But misses actually do have some value.
Tracers.
Watch that bullet fly, and be reminded of where the exact center of the screen is. Adjust for future shots. They call this "walking" your fire.
The 1858s inspire no confidence in me, any misses against sprinting enemies feel like a problem, a problem that will probably escalate into a bad reload or getting hit. So I panic, so it does escalate, so I'm distracted, and I forget the reminder of where the center of the screen is.
The AR15, on the other hand, puts me at ease with a forgiving future; it'll either still be loaded with this big mag even after a few more mistakes, or I can slap another in pretty quick.
So if I miss, no biggie, I walk it in without worry, and I'm usually back in the groove before there's any problem.
>>144279864
pre-RotZ 9mm
i don't know why they changed the noise to whatever the hell it was for so long
felt like i was shooting a fuckin BB
>>144293067
sounding like airsoft made it less dissatisfying for when using it with no benefits
weak af sound -> weak af expectation -> no disappointment when the gun is weak af
>de-aggro a FP
>teammate immediately attacks it again
>kills me
>we wipe
I hate the "rage everything and let everyone else deal with it" pubbies.
>>144293794
>repeatedly offer team to stun FPs and stunlock SCs to death
>"just don't piss them off and I can stun them easily"
>Firebug keeps spamming flames everywhere
>Demo keeps shooting RPGs near the corridor where I'm aiming
>Berserker keeps standing up while zerkwalling
>zerker wipes because an SC and FP gang up and murder him since I couldn't hit them
>Demo suddenly gets cold feet and refuses to shoot either one
>Firebug just fucked off
>somehow feel like this is my fault even though I know that this was because they couldn't possibly make it any harder to hit the big zeds
Welcome. Welcome to /kfg/.
You have chosen, or been chosen, to relocate to one of our finest remaining internet forums. I thought so much of /kfg/ that I elected to establish my posting here, in the General so thoughtfully provided by Anonymous. I have been proud to call /kfg/ my home. And so, whether you are here to stay tuned, or passing through on your way to parts unknown, welcome to /kfg/. It's alive here.
Let me read a letter I recently received. "Dear Dr. Anonymous. Why has Tripwire seen fit to suppress our quarterly update cycle? Sincerely, Anonymous".
Thank you for writing, Anonymous. Of course your question touches on one of the most basic consumer impulses, with all its associated hopes and fears for the future of the game. I also detect some unspoken questions. Does Tripwire really know what's best for KF2? What gives them the right to make this kind of decision for the playerbase? Will they ever deactivate the staying tuned and let us have fun again?
Allow me to address the anxieties underlying your concerns, rather than try to answer every possible question you might have left unvoiced. First, let us consider the fact that for the first time ever, as a species, Early Access Done Right is in our reach. This simple fact has far-reaching implications. It requires radical rethinking and revision of our mental imperatives. It also requires planning and forethought that run in direct opposition to our man-child pre-sets.
I find it helpful at times like these to remind myself that our true enemy is Hope. Hope was our mother when we were an infant species. Hope coddled us and kept us safe in those hardscrabble years when we played in KF1 and struggled through our glitched flawed matches and started at the terrible gameplay that reflected off of our computer screens.
>>144294853
But inseparable from Hope is its dark twin, Entitlement. Hope is inextricably bound to unreasoning impulses, and today we clearly see its true nature. Hope has just become aware of its irrelevance, and like a cornered beast, it will not go down without a bloody fight. Hope would inflict a fatal injury on our species. Hope creates its own problems, and bids us rise up against them. Hope tells us that the Zedconomy is a threat, rather than an opportunity. Hope slyly and covertly compels us away from change and progress. Hope, therefore, must be expunged. It must be fought tooth and nail, beginning with the basest of player urges: The urge to update.
We should thank Tripwire for giving us respite from this overpowering force. They have thrown a switch and exorcised our demons in a single stroke. They have given us the strength we never could have summoned to overcome this compulsion. They have given us purpose. They have turned our eyes towards PvP.
Let me assure you that the Update will be released on the day that we have mastered ourselves... the day we can prove we no longer need it. And that day of transformation, I have it on good authority, is close at hand.
We now have direct confirmation of a troll in our midst, one who has acquired an almost messianic reputation in the minds of certain players. His figure is synonymous with the darkest urges of Hope, Ignorance and Entitlement. Some of the worst excesses of the Recent Reviews Incident have been laid directly at his feet. And yet unsophisticated minds continue to imbue him with romantic power, giving him such dangerous poetic labels as the Anonymous, the Player Without A Name.
Let me remind all players of the dangers of magical thinking. We have scarcely begun to climb from the dark pit of Killing Floor's evolution. Let us not slide backward into KF1, just as we have finally begun to see the light. If you see this so-called Anonymous, report him. Civic deeds do not go unrewarded and contrariwise, complicity with his cause will not go unpunished.
Be wise. Be safe. Stay Tuned.
>>144294280
>>144294853
>>144294925
>>144295082
I have been asked to say a few words to the misinformation arm of the TWI Friendly Forum Fanatics, concerning recent successes in containing members of the Anti-TW hate groups.
Let me say up front that I regret having to temper my heartfelt congratulations with a strong measure of disappointment. But I wouldn't be doing my duty as your Lead Shill if I didn't pass along the message I have received from Tripwire.
The censorship of several individuals is an event of major significance, make no mistake. And while it's true that conceivably we could have taken them at almost any time in the last several months, the manner of their bans may prove to have unexpected benefits. It cannot have gone unnoticed by all community members that the forums bans coincided with the act of giving support to Anonymous. This might cause other community members to think twice before criticizing Tripwire. It might cause them to review their allegiance; even prompt some to shun him, or report him to our cause. However, we cannot count on such developments. Anonymous' reputation is such that other entitled trolls are likely to grant him a great deal of license in the spirit of spreading general chaos and terror.
>>144295720
This brings me to the one note of disappointment I must echo from Tripwire. Obviously I am not on the ground to closely command or second-guess the dedicated shilling of the True Fans, but this does not mean I can shirk responsibility for recent lapses and even outright failures on their part. I have been severely questioned about these shortcomings, and now must put the question to you: How could one player have slipped through your force's fingers? Time and time again? How is it possible? This is not some KF1 VET or highly trained speedkiller we are discussing. Anonymous is a third-rate pubbie who had hardly earned the distinction of his first suicidal achievement at the time of KF1's End Of The Line update. I have good reason to believe that in the following Early Access, he played in a state that precluded further development of HOE skills. The player you have consistently failed to report, let alone censor, is by all standards simply that- an ordinary player. How can you have failed to apprehend him?
Well...I will leave the upbraiding for another time, to the extent it proves necessary. Now is the moment to redeem yourselves. If the Fanboy Forces are to prove themselves an indispensable augmentation to Tripwire Interactive, they will have to earn the privilege. I'm sure I don't have to remind you that the alternative- if you can call it that! Is total abandonment - in union with all the other unworthy branches of the playerbase. Let's not allow it to come to that. I have done my best to convince Tripwires that you are the finest fanboys the community has to offer. So far they have accepted my argument, but without concrete evidence to back it up, my words sound increasingly hollow even to me. The burden of proof is on you. As is the consequence of failure. I'll just leave it at that.
It has come to my attention that some have lately called me a shill, as if such a term were shameful. I ask you, what greater endeavor exists than that of shilling? In our current unparalleled enterprise, refusal to shill is simply a refusal to grow- an insistence on suicide, if you will.
Did the lungfish refuse to breathe air? It did not. It crept forth boldly while its brethren remained in the blackest ocean abyss, with lidless eyes forever staring at the dark, ignorant and doomed despite their eternal vigilance. Would we model ourselves on the nostalgia? Are all the accomplishments of Tripwire fated to be nothing more than a layer of broken lines of code thinly strewn across a fossil bed, sandwiched between the first KF and an eon's worth of not enough time?
In order to be true to our nature, and our destiny, we must aspire to greater things. We have outgrown our unreal mod. It is futile to cry for KF1's glory, when our true sustenance awaits us within PvP. And only the Zedconomy that small minds call 'Microtransactions' can fund the development there.
Therefore I say, yes, I am a shill! We must all shill! Willingly! Eagerly! If we expect to reap the benefits of Early Access Done Right. And reap we shall.
I'd like to take a moment to address you directly, Anonymous.
Yes. I'm talking to you, the so-called One Good Player. I have a question for you. How could you have thrown it all away? It staggers the mind. A man of skill, with the ability to sway reactionary and fearful minds toward the truth, choosing instead to embark on a path of Ignorance and Entitlement. Make no mistake, Anonymous. This is not a gameplay revolution you have sparked...this is death and finality.
You have plunged KF2 into freefall. Even if you offered your surrender now, I cannot guarantee that Tripwire would accept it. At the moment, I fear they have begun to look upon even me with suspicion. So much for serving as the Community's Best Fanboy.
Help me win back their trust, Anonymous. Surrender while you still can. Help ensure that the community's trust in you is not misguided.
Do what is right, Anonymous. Serve KF2.
Is killing floor 2 not shit yet?
So, this is Anonymous... at last.
I wish I could say this was a pleasant surprise, but it's neither a surprise nor, as you will surely agree, very pleasant. Well, I'm nothing if not pragmatic.
Well, Anonymous, under other circumstances I like to think we might have been able to work together in an atmosphere of mutual trust and respect. Certainly judging from your brief tenure at the TWI Forums, while I was its Moderator, you showed every promise of becoming a valuable and productive contributor to the shilling operation. And yet, I'm not sure what spurred you to it, but there is really no place in these forums for a critical thinker.
Your peers are partly to blame, of course; my disappointment in /kfg/ is far greater than my sorrow over your unfortunate reviews and posts. In a way I suppose you could not have done otherwise. Who knows what seeds of contrarianism they planted when you were young and playing KF1? But while they certainly share a great part of the responsibility, for the recent troubles, it is you alone who have chosen to act with such willful disregard for Killing Floor 2's future.
Tell me, Anonymous, if you can: you have criticized so much — what is it exactly that you have developed? Can you name even one thing?
I thought not.
I have laid the foundation for the community's entertainment, and not as we have narrowly defined ourselves but as something greater than we could ever imagine, something that we can now only begin to glimpse.
Look, Anonymous, look at what you are throwing away. Is it worth it?
Rewriting Half Life dialogue is not a good way to keep the thread alive.
>>144296684
Oh I don't care about keeping the thread alive, it's just a fun way to stay tunedand remind myself that HL3 will never be.
This is the man that doomed us all.
Don't be fooled by his lies.
>>144296449
wait at least 9 days
>>144294153
Can you pieces of shit stop using wipe as a synonym to die? A wipe is when the entire team loses and the game ends, a single person cannot wipe unless it's a solo game.
>>144265082
>used boosting map
>didn't kill boss so the "beat HoE with x" didn't pop up before actually having a HoE map or hitting at least level 20
>just play hard a few times to get the basic cheevos
>usually levelled them to at least 15 just so I could move up to sui
how's the friendly fire server doing?
>>144300897
Very well, we're all dying
>>144300897
Some anons played it yesterday, sounded fun.
>>144302651
It was pretty chaotic, also one crossbow shot = instadeath and if you got shot, you got the lines for it as if hans or patty were shooting you like "i'm getting shot at!" which was a nice little detail.
>>144302651
i would say i felt a mixture of fun and anger
>>144304704
The real anger was when firebugs existed, they could clear shit with ease, but if you were close to them then you could have been lit up and caught in shrapnel
>>144305998
that was the fun part
On my way guys
>>144297132
Not fucking tricking me again
Its just going to be the railgun in offperk + demo/mando perk balance
>>144310159
>demo/mando balance
Is it likely they'll strike 3 on balance changes for a specific perk? I have hope but not so much that i'll be painfully disappointed if not the case
>>144231398
Why don't they just make drops a daily confirmed. It's like the only time I play the game now since they barely release updates. At least if I had a guaranteed USB to rage about, it'd make me play.
>>144314071
Because TWs thought process is backwards
A good method I think would be is you get them like every 4 days, but how good you do determines the chance of a nice little drop. Makes you want to earn that chance through your skills than relying on buying a key.
Think of it like this:
>practically carry the team and get more than 2 places on the scoreboard tier: decent chance but not guaranteed you can get a mint skin or a pretty valuable cosmetc like motorcycle helmet, can still get something worthwhile
>do well but gain a second or third status: still get a worthwhile prize, something like eyepatches, field tested toys, etc.
>just sort of there: low tier battle scarred, basic headbands like we have now, cheap stuff
>last place: fuck you, you get a usb/crate now go buy to benefit from your 'reward'
Of course it could use tweaking and other factors are applied like playing solo, if you're medic and only top in healing, firebugs likely to get the goods, etc. but I think it'd just actually reward you better for how well you contributed to the squad and shit.
>>144280063
10/10
>>144317249
good idea anon.
screw crates with separate keys, just clogs my inventory
i understand it increases MT, and especially steam profit, but fuck you
just make drops less often, but make it a crate with no need for a key and i can look what's inside and decide whether i want to open it (risk getting shit skin or score the gold (shit gold btw)) or sell it
also it's silly that on some characters i can put several skins on (headband and ski mask, i think) but on others only 1 of those
also the crafting system is ridiculously bad value
so is opening the cases in the first place, it's so much cheaper just to buy the skin one wants
i wouldn't mind paying A BIT more to have the fun of "gambling" but here you pay 2,75$ for a 99,9% chance to get a 0.09$ battle scared medic smg skin or a grey old sock to wrap around Donovan black-baloon head and call it a headband.
rant
>>144321834
>also it's silly that on some characters i can put several skins on (headband and ski mask, i think) but on others only 1 of those
some of the accessories change to fit the character's head, which can cause different amounts of clipping between accessories for different characters, so it makes some sense that some pairs of accessories are compatible on one character and incompatible with on another
seems like it happens too often, though
>>144322432
Is there even a way to tell which cosmetics can be combined without buying them and testing it?
That's one (of many) reasons I haven't bought shit thus far. I'm not going to risk even a couple of bucks on something I might not be able to even use.
>>144323726
I know you can see what accessories look like together on a character without buying them by using the SDK, but I don't know if that process includes the incompatibilities.
this thread is deader than /scv/
post some memes idiots
>>144330258
Finnish memes?
or just post this
>>144330542
I request some of your highest quality finnish meems
>>144331821
Since you asked so kindlyI was looking for the kf edition[spoiler,] but I don't have it.
WWAUT WHEN? LAST FRIDAY IT CAME ALMOST 3 HOURS AGO
BEFORE THAT AND WE'D STILL HAVE ALMOST AN HOUR TO GO
>>144334992
TW's work day ends in one hour. They'd want more time than that if they were going to answer questions about it on the forums.
>>144335178
sometimes the WWAUT threads have gone pages without an employee posting in it
also 2 weeks ago they posted "demo perk changes" 23:40, it's 23:04 now here
come on already
>>144334992
They use the excuse that WWAUTs are every 2 weeks and they only do it twice when there's stuff to show, so I doubt we'll get anything today
>>144338691
last week they said
>Next week I hope to have more on our new incap system as well as our new vulnerability/weakness system as well as the Sharpshooter Skill tree.
but you never know, it's a bit late already...
>>144340248
Just one more thing to add to the "Disappointing Tripwire promises" list
on a scale from 1-10 how BROWN do you think rae higgins will be?
IT'S OUT LADS http://steamcommunity.com/games/232090/announcements/detail/932623015631920813
ITS HERE
http://steamcommunity.com/games/232090/announcements/detail/932623015631920813
I TOLD YOU IT WOULD COME
>Inflict 30% more damage while crouched
>We’ve been reworking the Hans fight and you may want to get the message out that his engagement strategy will need to change (Don’t stop firing when the shield comes up!).
Cue total confusion.
>>144346281
pubs were unable to figure out the original shield mechanic, so they're just removing it
>Assassin - Headshot will knock down any Zed
>Ranger - Headshots will stun any zed
Assasin, i choose u!!!11
srsly, is this a choice? why would one choose knockdown over stun?
>Fire Weapons: Great against bloats. Good against Clot variants, Stalkers and Crawlers
>Microwave: Great Gorefasts, Bloats, Sirens, Husks, Scrakes and Fleshpounds.
Firegod is still on.
>different weapon types having different effectiveness against zeds
>microwave still good against everything except
>bad against clots, stalkers, and crawlers
>like that matters
>>144346867
nobody can fucking aim at a head if it keeps moving while trying to get up
>Sharpshooter skills are out
>Thread still dead
>>144347405
i just don't care anymore
sc/fp 6pHoE 2shots at least maybe 1shots with a tier 2, and we have a tier4 that'll be even better at the exact same job
>>144347405
maybe we'll come back after E3.
>>144347405
sharpshooter skills suck
I was almost expecting interesting level 25 skills instead of the ol' generic 100% chance knockdown/stun skill.
there are good lvl25 skills
demo nuke
medic sedate
emm...
I have no idea what these "great against" and "worst against" shit means.
Every weapon does some damage and zeds have different HP and resistances, in the end you're still gonna just shoot all zeds with whatever weapon you have more or less.
What the fuck does this change? Does it change anything? I don't understand.
>>144348135
rapid fire was good, but they ruined it by giving fb/gs the same thing, genericizing it
>>144348527
it's the same resistance system as before generally, but he's avoiding saying any numbers
the change is that ballistic damage has been split up into more categories
zeds have resist/vuln to pistol/smg/assaultrifle/shotgun damage separately
odd there's no mention of rifles that aren't assaulty
>>144348527
I think they're going to try to make it so that there is reason for people to buy something other than their T4 and either a DBS or Xbow on the side.
gorefast shotgun weakness should go a long way in making SG500 more satisfying
>>144349090
I feel like either it's gonna change nothing because the %ages will be so small people won't notice it or it's going to make everything feel retarded because weapon damage will be all over the place depending on what you shoot at whom
it's all really abstract to me, I guess we'll see
Oh my God what happened to Berserker?
Snap, fix the Zerkwalling and the Age of Aquarius is over for him.
I'm glad they didn't cut DR out though. I remember some people on the forums saying they should just remove it entirely and I was hell fucking no. A 5% cut ain't fun but it could be worse.
Shit tho no mo big health AND move speed combined. Bold moves I wasn't expecting.
I think Zerk might actually take more skill now, but I won't put a definitely on that until it's out.
Sharpshooter's not really a surprise, that code has been out there for a while now, but not that it's confirmed, I generally like what I see.
Still got some retarded skill though. Crouching and Stationary? Yeah, maybe on Hard, nothing higher.
Hans fight has just been made shorter, and the new resistances will take some getting used to and will certainly shake up the gameplay status quo.
>along with another surprise (if all goes well!)
RAE'S BOOTS
>>144350740
Well if it's 1 shot weapons, stopping for .5 sec to take your shot is no huge deal, I already do it with the crossbox because if I don't the bolt sometimes goes up randomly
>>144351443
>0.5 seconds
I wish. You know how TW like to fuck up.
Knowing them, the effect probably won't kick in until after 5.0 seconds.
>>144351551
yeah, you're right
>>144350740
>>along with another surprise (if all goes well!)
demo tier 3 pls
>9 Days and 5 Hours until E3
It's just flying past gents.
>>144347020
If you got a commando then its easy in zed time.
>>144347020
>nobody who's shit can fucking aim at a head if it keeps moving while trying to get up
ftfy
>using sniper (25%), stability (30%), rack em up (conservatively 10%), and deadeye (10%) along with the passive headshot damage bonus (guessing 20%)
>for a total of 95% bonus headshot damage, well over 100% if you keep rack em up stacks going
Are they going to make it so you can oneshot FP's on 6p HOE with a crossbow?
>>144353917
Sounds like a golden deal to me, Jimmy.
May as well enjoy it for the whole two days it will exist until the PvP crowd complain about it.
>>144354072
There's a pvp crowd?
>>144353917
Can you imagine 2-3 head shooting a boss at low health with a sedate or during zed time with ranger? Truly fun times ahead lads.
>Explosive Weapons
>Bad against Sirens
>bludgeon and slash now the same
rip zwei
>>144355391
but slash being shit is what made the zwei irrelevant, you should be saying welcome back zwei
>>144355391
Piercing: Great against Clot variants, Crawlers, Stalkers and Scrakes. Worse against Sirens, Husks, and Fleshpounds. Bad against Bloats. Higher Knockdown and Stun power.
Level 5:
>Sniper - Inflict 25% more damage while stationary with sharpshooter weapons
stationary for how long?
>Marksman - Shoot 25% faster and move 10% faster with sharpshooter weapons
shoot? as in reload or what? 10% speed... i guess in BOSS waves and kiting.
Level 10:
>Stability - Inflict 30% more damage while crouched
for how long again?
>Ballistic Shock - Stun power increased by 100%
but... crossbow stuns everything anyways, why would u need a bonus?
Level 15:
>Rack ‘em Up - Each consecutive headshot increases your damage by 5% up to 75%
yeah, yeah, obvious choice is obvious
>Combat Ready - Reload your weapons faster
when playing solo i guess
Level 20:
>Deadeye - Reduce recoil by 10% and increase headshot damage by 10% when aiming
there is already so much headshot dmg increase, piss off
>Always Prepared - Get 25% more ammo for sharpshooter weapons and grenades
nades nades nades nades
Level 25:
>Assassin - Headshot will knock down any Zed
>Ranger - Headshots will stun any zed
this is BS, ShS already stuns everything... and the fucking knockdown... This is another lvl25 skill disappointment.
>>144355553
oh snap
smash is just 200% stumble now
pulv might not knockdown anymore and zwei might get stuns?
rip pulv
>>144351551
>>144351443
>>144356319
>stationary for how long?
It didn't say stationary for a certain time. Presumably just the moment of firing. Though just because you've let off the button doesn't mean you've completely stopped moving yet.
>>144356319
>but... crossbow stuns everything anyways, why would u need a bonus?
They'll obviously adjust the Xbow and LAR once SS is out
>>144356609
you would think wouldn't you
that would be the logical thing to do
he he he
dead just after a wwaut
it's time to rest now, kfg
let go
>>144360175
I'll just take... a quick nap...
>>144356319
all z-time skills should be lv5
because nearly all of them do fuck all
>>144360175
Can confirm.
Even the CommHub is fucking dead.
No one NO ONE gives a fuck anymore.
You know, I honestly hope that TW host a fucking parade for E3, because that's probably what it's going to take to raise enough attention.
>>144360175
JUST let this thread be the last one. If it dies, don't make another. Only on the day before E3 will we need a thread.
>>144362694
to talk about what? how cool will Sharpshooter September 2017 be?
>>144354864
>Piercing
>Worse against sirens and fleshpounds
>Piercing
>worse against zeds with a metal chestplate
>worse against hardened skin
>Piercing
>>144362879
For tradition if nothing else.
It's E3. We'll turn up, watch Gibson say relevant cool stuff for 1 minute, make a fool of himself for 4 minutes, have a good laugh, have a good cry, and then go back to being dead.
>>144362882
>Tripwire
>Knowing shit about anything
What did you expect?
>>144362993
>For tradition if nothing else.
I like to have a place to talk about a game that I like to play from time to time, to share my experience of pubies, success with maties, exchange strategies. But I know I play less and less of this game, it's more of a habit rather than real fun of playing it. It's hard to let go, and move to something else. It's a great game... just dead. And I feel the same about me... I don't want to change, but it hurts to stay the same...
So I just beat suicidal solo and there were like 18 close calls and I couldn't do it on any map other than black forest.
How in the ever loving fuck do you even solo HoE?
>>144364491
>other than black forest
Why the fuck would you pick one of the shittest (and one of the hardest for me) maps to do it? Burning Paris is the easiest.
>How in the ever loving fuck do you even solo HoE?
Learn kiting route. And what perk you use?
Gonna get high and play tonight. Any tips? Anyone else play high?
>>144364775
Black Forest's openness really helps with escape routes. I'm not familiar with any routes and I relied mostly on "Okay enemies aren't coming from that way, FUCKING GO." I got corner fucked by fleshpounders twice and I thought it was over.
I was a level 24 gunslinger. It's the only class I've been playing since I started since all my friends play all the other ones.
>>144364460
I know what you mean. I love playing KF2 with /kfg/, but the game itself has really lost appeal.
The problem was, ironically, the updates.
First ROTP, then ROTZ. Just bad update after bad update. Honestly? I've loved all the fun I've had with everyone here, but I've had just about enough of this, I will not tolerate a third failure of an update.
Make no mistake, if the E3 Update brings a shit SS perk, I'm out. I have no remorse abandoning a game from a Dev that produces three updates in a year and fucks up all three.
E3 update. Last chance, Crapwire. I doubt I'm the only person who thinks this way.
>>144364491
You play Berserker and smash RMB.
>>144364984
>First ROTP, then ROTZ
what was so bad about rotp?
>>144364971
Gunslinger is really fun to solo HoE with Rack'em Up. Bad spawn can fuck you up fast but still pretty easy when played safe.
If you want easy baby mode, go medic or zerker. But gunslinger is still easy (just not baby) mode. Black Forest is bad for Gunslinger because of all the elevation (I hope I used a right word), you want to have a flat floor for easy headshots, if you want open space Farm will be better than Black Forest.
Pretty standard advice will be to try to keep the horde behind you, avoid death spots (places when you can get easily blocked and fucked), look where you're running 80% of time, turn around to take out annoying zeds and have target priority, kill sirens and husks as soon as you can.
You can heal yourself for 50hp, it's easier to solo HoE than to do it with shitty team.
>>144365361
Not him but
>Several Months for 2 maps, one of which was used as an internal testmap by TW and it's small as fuck, only has 2 traders and was bugged as fuck on release
>1 shitty new character that nobody ever uses
>Z E D C O N O M Y
>Patriarch is fun even though a bit underwhelming, can be killed with ease and it's not as dangerous as in KF1
>No Demo or Supp buffs, no FB nerfs
Slinger was good though
>Played Painkiller years ago
>Have Black Edition with DLC that I haven't played
>Try it again because KF2 is dead
>Cool shooting
>Beat standard campaign
>Try DLC
>Cool maps
>Fun guns and enemies
>Have so much with it
It even has rollercoaster ride
>>144365361
Well just off the top of my head, oh and TRIGGER WARNING: HOT OPINIONS in this post:
>LOTM Update
+ New map
+ Classic characters
- Irrelevant collectibles
- No new perks/weapons
- No teleporting changes
>I&D Update
+ Two new maps
+ Two new perks with weapons
+ New character
+ Changes for Zerk
- Changes for Zerk
- Ruined ammo
- Demo was lame, so was Support
- Zerkwalling
>ROTP Update
+ New map
+ New perk
+ New boss
+ New character
- One testmap that was rushed out
- Other perk was delayed because no time
- But apparently there was time to work on an entire RNG crate and key MT market system
-ZEDCONOMY
*** Please note: the Zedconomy didn't actually impact gameplay, but it's there because of the terrible terrible damage that it did and continues to do to KF2's reputation.
>ROTZ "Update", it honestly doesn't deserve the title
+ New map
+ Two new weapons
- Knockback
- No perk with the weapons because there was no time
- But apparently there was time to make a PvP mode no one asked for
- PvP mode that's buggy and imba and is ded within two days of release and sucks resources away from the actual game
I've deliberately ignored bug-fixing/ new bugs because I'd need another page just for those, this is mostly just content I'm talking about.
>>144367370
zed connomy would have been fine if it didnt have quality ranks and the drop table wasnt limited to shit items.
>>144367370
>+ Changes for Zerk
>- Changes for Zerk
If you honestly think we missed out on the original Zerk, you're crazy.
Zerk is in a good spot right now and changing him won't fix the AI targeting problem for zerkwalls.
Demo and Support are the only perks that really NEED re-works just because of how lame and one-sided their skills are that they're basically mandatory and should be passives.
Yet TWI are doing Demo, Commando, and Berserker.
Not that I don't like change but they're re-working them like they've never played above Hard.
>>144368509
Honestly, if it had released after Early Access it wouldn't have been half of the scandal it was. Releasing during EA was a mistake. Releasing during EA right in the middle of the Payday scandal was also a mistake.
No think of it, think of it, even from a scumbag perspective it makes no sense,
>Finish EA
>Build up lots of good will
>Out of EA debut
>Lots of people buy it because it's finished
>Enjoy first two months of big sales
>Then introduce MTs
>You already have their money
>Tell them that now it's to fund future content
OR
>Drop MTs in during EA
>Ruin your reputation
>No one buys it because it's in EA and it has MTs? LOL
>Out of EA debut
>No one buys it because the reputation has gone to shit
>Miss out on what could've been massive sales by comparison
They could have been so much smarter about it, but no, that was too hard. That required too much thinking. Now KF2 is just "That early access game with MTs LOL".
>Melee Weapons (slashing and blunt): Good against Stalkers. Worse against Clot variants, Gorefasts, Crawlers, Sirens, Husks, and Scrakes. Bad against Bloats. High flinch/hit effect power.
what the fuck is the point of melee then if it's shit against everything?
>>144371827
>gross precious healer
>removing zerks speed
>making it so zerkwalling is 100x more useful since you can't run around to help your team now
>remove knockdown for 0 reason aside from "but that's the sharpshooters zed time skill now!"
y tho, knocking down big zeds and bosses was so fucking helpful
>>144371964
Ganbatte Ebola-chan
So why Zerkers are using knife instead of crovels anyway?
>>144372606
Because you could feel it as a child growing up.
>>144371849
maybe "worse" only means "worse [than previously mentioned "good"]", and is actually just neutral?
