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Waiting on the next big update edition
Previous thread: >>143665993
>new WWAUT
http://steamcommunity.com/games/232090/announcements/detail/939377785240818217
>Latest update (1033)
http://steamcommunity.com/games/232090/announcements/detail/939376256549566331
>KF2 Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/kf2vg
>Check the pastebin for tutorials, Crash fix, Downloads, Console commands and more:
http://pastebin.com/gCA9DkDw
>Guides for beginners:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=425843240
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=435407843
>Spreadsheet with lots of stats about Perks, Damage, Weapons, Etc.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GDpg2mN1l_86U_RaDug0glFx8cZCuErwxZLiBKl9SyY/
>Fix mouse sensitivity
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1369921&postcount=9
I suggest you set KFInput.ini to read only to prevent the settings from getting reverted.
>Servers IPs:
Press F3, use the following console commands to join the servers:
American Servers:
open 4chas.ftp.sh?password=rage
open 4chas.ftp.sh:7787?password=rage
open 4chas.ftp.sh:7797?password=rage
open 4chas.ftp.sh:7772?password=rage
West Coast
open 23.94.241.50:7772?password=rage
European server:
open 85.236.101.21:8077?password=rage
open 51.254.187.123:7777 no password
*Visit 4chas.ftp.sh in your browser for Live server stats and IPs.
ALIVE
Second for slinging a fat wad of semen all over healslut's soft toes
RIP in peace
>Implying we won't die before E3
>>144231750
Top taste
>>144231998
This tbqh
I'm surprised we even made it this far
>>144231398
>>new WWAUT
>5 days old
>adding the dead american servers back into the OP
ded
>>144235448
Rev up that crovel
>>144236935
rev up that meat grinder
>>144231998
t-this...
>>144238767
We can't let cyst-chan down, we need to stay alive for him!
LET IT DIE
>>144240935
NO! We can stubbornly autistic like other generals.
>10 Days and 5 Hours until E3
It's just flying past gents.
Why didn't you let it die?
thread is about as relevant as planetside 2 general
die
die
die
die
die
guys pls, /kfg/ needs your support to live
>>144243946
postanime
>>144243946
postfoot fetish
>>144243946
postbig belgan
>>144243946
You know what /kfg/ needs?
A short break.
One week.
Let it die, and in one week bring it back. There will be some new info to talk about, and it'll be right before E3, great timing.
On a dignified note, looks like the PS4 Media confirmed Deadline and DeathSentence.
>>144244708
This thread should discuss tomorrow's WWAUT, if there is one.
THEN we take a week break.
>/kfg/ is alive again
Great, now I canwhine about how they nerfed the double barreled's ammo count what the fuck Tripwire uninstalled fuck you
>>144243946
Post **Chaika**
>>144244998
>Objective
>Hold out until the WWAUT finishes charging up
Goddamn Temple of the Past I fucking hate this mission.
>>144245145
>haven't playes the game in weeks
>hear they hiked ammo count and prices
>but apparently, not content with the boomstick's crazy shell cost, they lowered the ammo
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
FUCK YOU, SUPPORT IS IN A GOOD PLACE. BUY CRATES :^)
>>144245145
It's extremely useful within its range, and weighs only four. It's for the best that it doesn't last forever.
>>144245439
>they lowered the ammo
they didn't
they raised the ammo of most other weapons
>>144245443
>It's for the best that the best general zed removal gun Support had is now shit.
Yeah who played support anyways I'm sure the player count of the game will be fine without them.
>>144245805
M4 is the new hotness, give that a spin
>>144245805
>is now shit.
how
what stats changed
from what value to what value
>>144246304
didnt only the ammo cost change?
>>144246202
M4 is fucking garbage. I tried it when my poor DB could barely hold up through the 3rd wave and it was utter trash.
>>144246585
>m4 is garbage
im starting to believe youve never played support
What happened to the old killing floor devs who made the mod for ut2004?
>>144246585
>Same damage as an AA-12 with the same spread
>High stumble power
>Shit
>>144246515
boomstick's ammo cost has been 5dosh/shell or 10dosh/"mag" since early access's start
>>144247080
>An AA12 that doesn't have a mag.
>Not utter shit compared to two barrels of fuck
>>144247235
must have confused it for something else i guess
>>144247543
>not reloading after every shot
>>144248220
>Implying I can when the piece of shit has no spread and there's zeds coming at me from every possible angle.
DB was my friend through thick and thin. M4 is some punk busta pretending to be a AA12
>>144248220
That's all well and good, if you're hiding behind teammates or playing hard, but some of us have zeds sprinting to us
>>144248614
it doesnt take 8 shots to clear whatever is in your way, as long as you don't empty it the thing reloads fairly quick
>game is already +1 year old
>still far from being complete
Anyway is demo still shit? Last time I played was before the gunslinger.
>>144248809
demo is shit if your team is shit or you arent level 25
>>144248809
It's getting 1 new weapon and a skill tree rework soon™
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=117915
>>144249058
Fuck Demo. HSG when? If they're taking my DB I need an alternative.
>single barrel DB shot
>reload
>unload both shells
they will fix this right?
>>144249132
>If they're taking my DB
what
>>144249132
>DBS and HSG lover
Like looking into a mirror, HSG would have been a fun tier 1.
>>144249830
12ga from 12rd detachable mags, compared to the other options of shotguns?
No way that'd be balanced at the bottom.
Tier 2 at least.
>Check Payday 2's store page out of curiosity
>100% positive recent reviews
>Apparently they removed MTs
C'mon Tripwire, you can still do it right tooWho am I kidding
>>144246935
Buried in Gibson's backyard.
>>144251206
>inb4 "they didn't really remove it, blah blah blah"
>>144251206
>Apparently they removed MTs
But they didn't.
>>144251484
there it is
>Try to kite
>Get pushed around like a rubber ball by every single attack
>Can't aim for shit
Why did they thought this was a good idea again?
>>144253176
They thought that the problem of Zerkwalling, caused by an AI targeting issue, could be fixed by simply making Zeds shove people out of the way.
In other words, they tried to take an ineffective and lazy shortcut.
>>144253176
it's a good idea, they just implemented it lazy as FUCK
crawlers and shit shouldn't knock you back at all. they need to tone down the knockback on everything bar large zeds and bosses
>>144253352
the result is that they made zerkwalling slightly harder
and made every other way to play the game more harder
zed knockback encourages zerkwall
>>144253665
Uh huh.
Zerks now just have to take a step forward every time they get hit, while everyone else has to be able to move just as well as a Zerk to make sure they aren't jammed into a spot and pinballed to death.
I mean it's just retarded.
If a big guy sends me flying it makes sense, he's huge. But a crawler should not swipe me with a claw and send me flying five metres away. It's just classic current TW: lazy, ineffective and causes more problems than it solves.
Now comes the part where TW look at KF2's 52% rating and say "Well what would provoke such a reaction from the players?!"
well, they were convinced that Demo is over powered, but now we can see that they have listened to the community after all, because demo is getting a buff.
So there is hope.
>>144255421
There has been a lot of "hope" in the past year.
I will believe it when I see it.
>>144252537
>>144251484
>>144251206
what happened uh?
>>144254064
>get patted by a cyst
>sent a couple meters to the side
>get kicked by a fleshpound
>same distance roughly
It still annoys me they made clot varients work backwards to their original intent, feels so inconsistent
>these zeds are unique in they can keep you immobilized until they die
>LETS HAVE THEM SEND EVERYONE FLYING TOO TO ESCAPE
>>144256620
Overkill stated that as of Patch X, "crates" that drop will be free to open.
Faggots then feel the need to point out that previous crates still require a key to open, thus saying that microtransactions are still a thing.
>>144256620
They released and update saying they were making the Black Market free, when all they were doing was making future crates free to open. All the old crates still require keys to open, and they also removed the chance for keys to drop so now you can only open them with money. But stupid people see "free" and think this means they removed microtransactions, and stupider people get angry whenever people point out it's the opposite.
>>144257303
but if the previous crates that still need keys exist, then the microtransactions are still a thing
lol?
>>144246935
Alex did that multiplayer fps about divers and sharks
>cant carry m79 and rpg at the same time
WHY THE FUCK NOT? THIS CLASS SUCKS ANYWAYS
>>144261116
M79 is going to be a Tier 2 VERY SOON
Weight will probably be adjusted to match
>>144261116
>Would take a shitty weapon over the pussy-moistening hotness that is C4
>>144261228
so they're adding in that M32 that nigga was making in his off time?
>>144261116
>M79 does 225 damage
>HX25 does 210 damage
the M79 is an overpriced and heavier Tier 1
>>144261414
Uh... no.
At least Yoshiro hinted no.
"We're bringing back an old favourite. No NOT that one."
I reckon it'll be the M4 203.
>>144261290
>7 C4
why would tripwire do this
>>144261710
Plz
all I need is an Aimpoint Comp M2 and no fucking retarded glowing lights and I can make a reskin to look like my old issued rifle, like in Insurgency
because this 9mm AR just ain't cutting it
>>144262152
>9mm
pretty sure it shoots 22 lr
>>144262316
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/838489/promag-magazine-ar-15-9mm-luger-32-round-polymer-black
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/979722/promag-conversion-magazine-ar-15-cmmg-ciener-tactical-solutions-sig-522-conversions-22-long-rifle-30-round-polymer-black
which looks familiar?
>>144262885
interesting theyd call it a varmint rifle rifle in game considering that name usually specifies .223 rounds
>>144259197
I didn't say they were wrong.
It's just that they need to be all technical just to prove a point.
What are the odds for such a drop?
>>144264383
lucky fucker
all I ever get are caps
>>144263210
because tripwire are "gun nuts" and would rather call a mag a clip.
>>144263210
yeah the "varmint" name and "civilian" description are absolutely retarded for a 3rd burst 9mm
but I guess if they admitted that is was an smg, that'd go against the "smgs are swat's thing" concept that they were kicking around then, and still might do
>>144264383
Holy fuck that actually looks nice.
10/10 would use for Wave 1 before selling.
Should I just unfriend him?
>>144265082
Yes.
>>144264823
>use for Wave 1 before selling.
Knife fighting in an arena of fallout is the funnest way to wave 1, and leaves enough ammo that you may as well keep it for wave 2.
Now that rounds are 9 dosh, though, buying any ammo to keep it going wave 3+ is way less appealing, though.
>>144265082
>perk training map
>vac secured
the irony is off the charts
>>144264814
they could have just said it was a Department of Energy rifle they found and copied.
and made it very sex
>>144265082
do it
fuck illegitimate 25s who dont know what the fuck they're doing
>medic isn't killing trash while i deal with scrake
>ask him why he wasnt shooting trash around scrake
>"i thought im only supposed to heal"
>>144265082
Level 25 disappointments are fair-weather friends at best, I say yeah.
>>144265450
sounds adorably frustrating
I haven't paid attention to this game since the first tiny content update and I still see there is absofuckinglutely nothing released worth looking at, huh? I guess I should have learned with the $30 early access fucking garbage only to get hit in the mouth with a sale a few weeks later.
Are their forums still politically correct as fuck?
>>144267217
>first tiny content update
>absofuckinglutely nothing
"No".
If you're someone who lasted played on the Lord of the Manor Update, there's fucking heaps for you to do now.
ded
>>144270092
b-but the wwaut
>>144272076
there will be nothing worthwhile in it fám
>>144272076
Yeah you right
I know your style:
Pussy
CAUSE I'M FUCKIN IT
>>144272189
webm of railgun or cryo grenade
if not, I will cryo
excuse me i have a question
sharpshooter WHEN????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>144274393
They'll let us know at E3
>>144274571
Good GIF right here
>>144274571
"revenge of the zeds"
zeds are so underwhelmingly underpowered that mode is unbalanced as fuck
they should just scrap it and take it out of the game instead wasting time on a mode no one plays
>>144275659
I am looking forward to looking at the Steam Store in the future and seeing the new banner for the E3 update, instead of the current banner, a constant reminder of the worst update yet and easily the greatest failure flop feature added so far.
sometimes i play commando and use semi auto and pretend i'm playing sharpshooter
>>144277773
Soon your pretending will end. The Ascension draws near.
I said it before and I say it again now.
With each day that passes we draw closer to Sharpshooter's release. Soon we will be restored.
>>144278013
i bet it'll be shit when it comes out
i bet nothing will feel as good as xbow in kf1
>>144277773
>20% damage bonus if you pick semi or auto fire modes
were they drunk when assigning the commando perks?
>>144278292
Good thing they're "fixing" commando again.
>>144278186
Knowing TW, it may very well be shit.
But at least it won't be bad as debut Demo.
is there a weapon that feels more unsatisfying than the microwave gun?
>>144279864
The S&W 500.
>opinions
>>144279864
For me it's the 1858s.
I just feel nothing.
>>144279905
Oh wait, UNsatisfying. Never mind, I'm retarded.
>>144280006
Yeah I was gonna say, whatahutalkinabeet?
>>144280063
It's like you perfectly summarized my KF2 update experiences.
>>144279942
For sure, painfully average.
EVERYTHING else has something appreciable about its performance: capacity, power, speed, ammo, weight, low recoil, parry, SOMETHING.
Single 1858's performance is "low capacity gun".
Dual 1858s' performance is just... "gun".
>>144280006
>>144279905
Most satisfying, SW500 is a consistent pleaser, but RPG rarely provides the most satisfying moments in the game by far; knockout nuclear headshots.
>>144281924
It's a better 9mm with the added pleasure of needing to manage ammo, what's not to like?
>>144284003
compared to the dual 9mm theyre garbage
>>144284003
Well, it has only slightly more damage than the 9mm (which is only really useful when bodyshotting instead of aiming properly, or against Bloats) and in return it has some large downsides compared to the 9mm:
>weighs way more (single 9mm weighs nothing, so)
>even with 2 1858's you have less ammo loaded in the two combined than a single 9mm
>way longer reload
I mean since GS gets a damage bonus with the 9mm as well it's not a downright BAD weapon since it's usable, and you can always use the 9mm if you prefer it, but at best it's an extra ammo pool that isn't very satisfying to use, at worst it's just a downgrade from a weapon every perk has.
WAKE ME UP
>>144286387
CAN'T WAKE UP
>>144284003
>a better 9mm
Better in only damage. Inefficient damage, at a cost.
9mm/medsmg are interesting for having especially low base damage, 15, too little to decap trash without benefits.
AR15/Medpistol/RegularShotguns/SA80 are interesting for their 20/25 base damage per projectile, optimal to decap trash, without overkill. With benefits, 1shot crawlers without overkill.
AK12 is interesting at 35 base damage, you can get perk benefits letting it 2shot clots/cysts/slashers extremely efficiently, making trash body shots in general satisfying.
SCAR/1911's 50 base damage 2shots clots/cysts/slashers with flawless efficiency without benefits, and with benefits, they'll 1shot bloat heads and 3shot husk/siren heads very efficiently. In the upcoming commando rework, SCAR with benefits will 1shot stalkers, too.
But 1858s are at 30 base damage. The other attributes of the gun had to be compromised in order to deliver this extra damage beyond the 18 it takes to make a projectile 1shot trash heads. The compromising of those other attributes, making them an average bore, made 1858s unsatisfying for trash heads. AR15 leaves 1858s in the dust at shooting trash heads and crawlers, 1shotting with way better capacity and reloads.
And yet this extra damage was not enough to make the 1858s satisfying for generally shooting trash bodies. A cyst without headshots takes half a gun's load!
>>144288880
>AR15 leaves 1858s in the dust at shooting trash heads and crawlers, 1shotting with way better capacity and reloads.
This is just my opinion, but I think the 1858s are at least better than the AR-15 because the iron sights on the AR-15 are just that fucking garbage.
Maybe I am a casual though because I can't headshot that well unscoped.
>9 Days and 19 Hours until E3
It's just flying past gents.
>>144289597
>headshot that well unscoped
AR15 is better on this account, for me.
Misses are less costly with the ar15 due to mag capacity and ammo costs.
But misses actually do have some value.
Tracers.
Watch that bullet fly, and be reminded of where the exact center of the screen is. Adjust for future shots. They call this "walking" your fire.
The 1858s inspire no confidence in me, any misses against sprinting enemies feel like a problem, a problem that will probably escalate into a bad reload or getting hit. So I panic, so it does escalate, so I'm distracted, and I forget the reminder of where the center of the screen is.
The AR15, on the other hand, puts me at ease with a forgiving future; it'll either still be loaded with this big mag even after a few more mistakes, or I can slap another in pretty quick.
So if I miss, no biggie, I walk it in without worry, and I'm usually back in the groove before there's any problem.
>>144279864
pre-RotZ 9mm
i don't know why they changed the noise to whatever the hell it was for so long
felt like i was shooting a fuckin BB
>>144293067
sounding like airsoft made it less dissatisfying for when using it with no benefits
weak af sound -> weak af expectation -> no disappointment when the gun is weak af
>de-aggro a FP
>teammate immediately attacks it again
>kills me
>we wipe
I hate the "rage everything and let everyone else deal with it" pubbies.
>>144293794
>repeatedly offer team to stun FPs and stunlock SCs to death
>"just don't piss them off and I can stun them easily"
>Firebug keeps spamming flames everywhere
>Demo keeps shooting RPGs near the corridor where I'm aiming
>Berserker keeps standing up while zerkwalling
>zerker wipes because an SC and FP gang up and murder him since I couldn't hit them
>Demo suddenly gets cold feet and refuses to shoot either one
>Firebug just fucked off
>somehow feel like this is my fault even though I know that this was because they couldn't possibly make it any harder to hit the big zeds
Welcome. Welcome to /kfg/.
You have chosen, or been chosen, to relocate to one of our finest remaining internet forums. I thought so much of /kfg/ that I elected to establish my posting here, in the General so thoughtfully provided by Anonymous. I have been proud to call /kfg/ my home. And so, whether you are here to stay tuned, or passing through on your way to parts unknown, welcome to /kfg/. It's alive here.
Let me read a letter I recently received. "Dear Dr. Anonymous. Why has Tripwire seen fit to suppress our quarterly update cycle? Sincerely, Anonymous".
Thank you for writing, Anonymous. Of course your question touches on one of the most basic consumer impulses, with all its associated hopes and fears for the future of the game. I also detect some unspoken questions. Does Tripwire really know what's best for KF2? What gives them the right to make this kind of decision for the playerbase? Will they ever deactivate the staying tuned and let us have fun again?
Allow me to address the anxieties underlying your concerns, rather than try to answer every possible question you might have left unvoiced. First, let us consider the fact that for the first time ever, as a species, Early Access Done Right is in our reach. This simple fact has far-reaching implications. It requires radical rethinking and revision of our mental imperatives. It also requires planning and forethought that run in direct opposition to our man-child pre-sets.
I find it helpful at times like these to remind myself that our true enemy is Hope. Hope was our mother when we were an infant species. Hope coddled us and kept us safe in those hardscrabble years when we played in KF1 and struggled through our glitched flawed matches and started at the terrible gameplay that reflected off of our computer screens.
>>144294853
But inseparable from Hope is its dark twin, Entitlement. Hope is inextricably bound to unreasoning impulses, and today we clearly see its true nature. Hope has just become aware of its irrelevance, and like a cornered beast, it will not go down without a bloody fight. Hope would inflict a fatal injury on our species. Hope creates its own problems, and bids us rise up against them. Hope tells us that the Zedconomy is a threat, rather than an opportunity. Hope slyly and covertly compels us away from change and progress. Hope, therefore, must be expunged. It must be fought tooth and nail, beginning with the basest of player urges: The urge to update.
We should thank Tripwire for giving us respite from this overpowering force. They have thrown a switch and exorcised our demons in a single stroke. They have given us the strength we never could have summoned to overcome this compulsion. They have given us purpose. They have turned our eyes towards PvP.
Let me assure you that the Update will be released on the day that we have mastered ourselves... the day we can prove we no longer need it. And that day of transformation, I have it on good authority, is close at hand.
We now have direct confirmation of a troll in our midst, one who has acquired an almost messianic reputation in the minds of certain players. His figure is synonymous with the darkest urges of Hope, Ignorance and Entitlement. Some of the worst excesses of the Recent Reviews Incident have been laid directly at his feet. And yet unsophisticated minds continue to imbue him with romantic power, giving him such dangerous poetic labels as the Anonymous, the Player Without A Name.
Let me remind all players of the dangers of magical thinking. We have scarcely begun to climb from the dark pit of Killing Floor's evolution. Let us not slide backward into KF1, just as we have finally begun to see the light. If you see this so-called Anonymous, report him. Civic deeds do not go unrewarded and contrariwise, complicity with his cause will not go unpunished.
Be wise. Be safe. Stay Tuned.
I have been asked to say a few words to the misinformation arm of the TWI Friendly Forum Fanatics, concerning recent successes in containing members of the Anti-TW hate groups.
Let me say up front that I regret having to temper my heartfelt congratulations with a strong measure of disappointment. But I wouldn't be doing my duty as your Lead Shill if I didn't pass along the message I have received from Tripwire.
The censorship of several individuals is an event of major significance, make no mistake. And while it's true that conceivably we could have taken them at almost any time in the last several months, the manner of their bans may prove to have unexpected benefits. It cannot have gone unnoticed by all community members that the forums bans coincided with the act of giving support to Anonymous. This might cause other community members to think twice before criticizing Tripwire. It might cause them to review their allegiance; even prompt some to shun him, or report him to our cause. However, we cannot count on such developments. Anonymous' reputation is such that other entitled trolls are likely to grant him a great deal of license in the spirit of spreading general chaos and terror.
>>144295720
This brings me to the one note of disappointment I must echo from Tripwire. Obviously I am not on the ground to closely command or second-guess the dedicated shilling of the True Fans, but this does not mean I can shirk responsibility for recent lapses and even outright failures on their part. I have been severely questioned about these shortcomings, and now must put the question to you: How could one player have slipped through your force's fingers? Time and time again? How is it possible? This is not some KF1 VET or highly trained speedkiller we are discussing. Anonymous is a third-rate pubbie who had hardly earned the distinction of his first suicidal achievement at the time of KF1's End Of The Line update. I have good reason to believe that in the following Early Access, he played in a state that precluded further development of HOE skills. The player you have consistently failed to report, let alone censor, is by all standards simply that- an ordinary player. How can you have failed to apprehend him?
Well...I will leave the upbraiding for another time, to the extent it proves necessary. Now is the moment to redeem yourselves. If the Fanboy Forces are to prove themselves an indispensable augmentation to Tripwire Interactive, they will have to earn the privilege. I'm sure I don't have to remind you that the alternative- if you can call it that! Is total abandonment - in union with all the other unworthy branches of the playerbase. Let's not allow it to come to that. I have done my best to convince Tripwires that you are the finest fanboys the community has to offer. So far they have accepted my argument, but without concrete evidence to back it up, my words sound increasingly hollow even to me. The burden of proof is on you. As is the consequence of failure. I'll just leave it at that.
It has come to my attention that some have lately called me a shill, as if such a term were shameful. I ask you, what greater endeavor exists than that of shilling? In our current unparalleled enterprise, refusal to shill is simply a refusal to grow- an insistence on suicide, if you will.
Did the lungfish refuse to breathe air? It did not. It crept forth boldly while its brethren remained in the blackest ocean abyss, with lidless eyes forever staring at the dark, ignorant and doomed despite their eternal vigilance. Would we model ourselves on the nostalgia? Are all the accomplishments of Tripwire fated to be nothing more than a layer of broken lines of code thinly strewn across a fossil bed, sandwiched between the first KF and an eon's worth of not enough time?
In order to be true to our nature, and our destiny, we must aspire to greater things. We have outgrown our unreal mod. It is futile to cry for KF1's glory, when our true sustenance awaits us within PvP. And only the Zedconomy that small minds call 'Microtransactions' can fund the development there.
Therefore I say, yes, I am a shill! We must all shill! Willingly! Eagerly! If we expect to reap the benefits of Early Access Done Right. And reap we shall.
I'd like to take a moment to address you directly, Anonymous.
Yes. I'm talking to you, the so-called One Good Player. I have a question for you. How could you have thrown it all away? It staggers the mind. A man of skill, with the ability to sway reactionary and fearful minds toward the truth, choosing instead to embark on a path of Ignorance and Entitlement. Make no mistake, Anonymous. This is not a gameplay revolution you have sparked...this is death and finality.
You have plunged KF2 into freefall. Even if you offered your surrender now, I cannot guarantee that Tripwire would accept it. At the moment, I fear they have begun to look upon even me with suspicion. So much for serving as the Community's Best Fanboy.
Help me win back their trust, Anonymous. Surrender while you still can. Help ensure that the community's trust in you is not misguided.
Do what is right, Anonymous. Serve KF2.
Is killing floor 2 not shit yet?
So, this is Anonymous... at last.
I wish I could say this was a pleasant surprise, but it's neither a surprise nor, as you will surely agree, very pleasant. Well, I'm nothing if not pragmatic.
Well, Anonymous, under other circumstances I like to think we might have been able to work together in an atmosphere of mutual trust and respect. Certainly judging from your brief tenure at the TWI Forums, while I was its Moderator, you showed every promise of becoming a valuable and productive contributor to the shilling operation. And yet, I'm not sure what spurred you to it, but there is really no place in these forums for a critical thinker.
Your peers are partly to blame, of course; my disappointment in /kfg/ is far greater than my sorrow over your unfortunate reviews and posts. In a way I suppose you could not have done otherwise. Who knows what seeds of contrarianism they planted when you were young and playing KF1? But while they certainly share a great part of the responsibility, for the recent troubles, it is you alone who have chosen to act with such willful disregard for Killing Floor 2's future.
Tell me, Anonymous, if you can: you have criticized so much — what is it exactly that you have developed? Can you name even one thing?
I thought not.
I have laid the foundation for the community's entertainment, and not as we have narrowly defined ourselves but as something greater than we could ever imagine, something that we can now only begin to glimpse.
Look, Anonymous, look at what you are throwing away. Is it worth it?
Rewriting Half Life dialogue is not a good way to keep the thread alive.
>>144296684
Oh I don't care about keeping the thread alive, it's just a fun way to stay tunedand remind myself that HL3 will never be.
This is the man that doomed us all.
Don't be fooled by his lies.
>>144296449
wait at least 9 days
>>144294153
Can you pieces of shit stop using wipe as a synonym to die? A wipe is when the entire team loses and the game ends, a single person cannot wipe unless it's a solo game.
>>144265082
>used boosting map
>didn't kill boss so the "beat HoE with x" didn't pop up before actually having a HoE map or hitting at least level 20
>just play hard a few times to get the basic cheevos
>usually levelled them to at least 15 just so I could move up to sui
how's the friendly fire server doing?
>>144300897
Very well, we're all dying
>>144300897
Some anons played it yesterday, sounded fun.
>>144302651
It was pretty chaotic, also one crossbow shot = instadeath and if you got shot, you got the lines for it as if hans or patty were shooting you like "i'm getting shot at!" which was a nice little detail.
>>144302651
i would say i felt a mixture of fun and anger
>>144304704
The real anger was when firebugs existed, they could clear shit with ease, but if you were close to them then you could have been lit up and caught in shrapnel
>>144305998
that was the fun part
On my way guys
>>144297132
Not fucking tricking me again
Its just going to be the railgun in offperk + demo/mando perk balance
>>144310159
>demo/mando balance
Is it likely they'll strike 3 on balance changes for a specific perk? I have hope but not so much that i'll be painfully disappointed if not the case
>>144231398
Why don't they just make drops a daily confirmed. It's like the only time I play the game now since they barely release updates. At least if I had a guaranteed USB to rage about, it'd make me play.
>>144314071
Because TWs thought process is backwards
A good method I think would be is you get them like every 4 days, but how good you do determines the chance of a nice little drop. Makes you want to earn that chance through your skills than relying on buying a key.
Think of it like this:
>practically carry the team and get more than 2 places on the scoreboard tier: decent chance but not guaranteed you can get a mint skin or a pretty valuable cosmetc like motorcycle helmet, can still get something worthwhile
>do well but gain a second or third status: still get a worthwhile prize, something like eyepatches, field tested toys, etc.
>just sort of there: low tier battle scarred, basic headbands like we have now, cheap stuff
>last place: fuck you, you get a usb/crate now go buy to benefit from your 'reward'
Of course it could use tweaking and other factors are applied like playing solo, if you're medic and only top in healing, firebugs likely to get the goods, etc. but I think it'd just actually reward you better for how well you contributed to the squad and shit.
>>144280063
10/10
>>144317249
good idea anon.
screw crates with separate keys, just clogs my inventory
i understand it increases MT, and especially steam profit, but fuck you
just make drops less often, but make it a crate with no need for a key and i can look what's inside and decide whether i want to open it (risk getting shit skin or score the gold (shit gold btw)) or sell it
also it's silly that on some characters i can put several skins on (headband and ski mask, i think) but on others only 1 of those
also the crafting system is ridiculously bad value
so is opening the cases in the first place, it's so much cheaper just to buy the skin one wants
i wouldn't mind paying A BIT more to have the fun of "gambling" but here you pay 2,75$ for a 99,9% chance to get a 0.09$ battle scared medic smg skin or a grey old sock to wrap around Donovan black-baloon head and call it a headband.
rant
>>144321834
>also it's silly that on some characters i can put several skins on (headband and ski mask, i think) but on others only 1 of those
some of the accessories change to fit the character's head, which can cause different amounts of clipping between accessories for different characters, so it makes some sense that some pairs of accessories are compatible on one character and incompatible with on another
seems like it happens too often, though
>>144322432
Is there even a way to tell which cosmetics can be combined without buying them and testing it?
That's one (of many) reasons I haven't bought shit thus far. I'm not going to risk even a couple of bucks on something I might not be able to even use.
>>144323726
I know you can see what accessories look like together on a character without buying them by using the SDK, but I don't know if that process includes the incompatibilities.
this thread is deader than /scv/
post some memes idiots
>>144330258
Finnish memes?
or just post this
>>144330542
I request some of your highest quality finnish meems
>>144331821
Since you asked so kindlyI was looking for the kf edition[spoiler,] but I don't have it.
WWAUT WHEN? LAST FRIDAY IT CAME ALMOST 3 HOURS AGO
BEFORE THAT AND WE'D STILL HAVE ALMOST AN HOUR TO GO
>>144334992
TW's work day ends in one hour. They'd want more time than that if they were going to answer questions about it on the forums.
>>144335178
sometimes the WWAUT threads have gone pages without an employee posting in it
also 2 weeks ago they posted "demo perk changes" 23:40, it's 23:04 now here
come on already
>>144334992
They use the excuse that WWAUTs are every 2 weeks and they only do it twice when there's stuff to show, so I doubt we'll get anything today
>>144338691
last week they said
>Next week I hope to have more on our new incap system as well as our new vulnerability/weakness system as well as the Sharpshooter Skill tree.
but you never know, it's a bit late already...
>>144340248
Just one more thing to add to the "Disappointing Tripwire promises" list
on a scale from 1-10 how BROWN do you think rae higgins will be?
IT'S OUT LADS http://steamcommunity.com/games/232090/announcements/detail/932623015631920813
ITS HERE
http://steamcommunity.com/games/232090/announcements/detail/932623015631920813
I TOLD YOU IT WOULD COME
>Inflict 30% more damage while crouched
>We’ve been reworking the Hans fight and you may want to get the message out that his engagement strategy will need to change (Don’t stop firing when the shield comes up!).
Cue total confusion.
>>144346281
pubs were unable to figure out the original shield mechanic, so they're just removing it
>Assassin - Headshot will knock down any Zed
>Ranger - Headshots will stun any zed
Assasin, i choose u!!!11
srsly, is this a choice? why would one choose knockdown over stun?
>Fire Weapons: Great against bloats. Good against Clot variants, Stalkers and Crawlers
>Microwave: Great Gorefasts, Bloats, Sirens, Husks, Scrakes and Fleshpounds.
Firegod is still on.
>different weapon types having different effectiveness against zeds
>microwave still good against everything except
>bad against clots, stalkers, and crawlers
>like that matters
>>144346867
nobody can fucking aim at a head if it keeps moving while trying to get up
>Sharpshooter skills are out
>Thread still dead
>>144347405
i just don't care anymore
sc/fp 6pHoE 2shots at least maybe 1shots with a tier 2, and we have a tier4 that'll be even better at the exact same job
>>144347405
maybe we'll come back after E3.
>>144347405
sharpshooter skills suck
I was almost expecting interesting level 25 skills instead of the ol' generic 100% chance knockdown/stun skill.
there are good lvl25 skills
demo nuke
medic sedate
emm...
I have no idea what these "great against" and "worst against" shit means.
Every weapon does some damage and zeds have different HP and resistances, in the end you're still gonna just shoot all zeds with whatever weapon you have more or less.
What the fuck does this change? Does it change anything? I don't understand.
>>144348135
rapid fire was good, but they ruined it by giving fb/gs the same thing, genericizing it
>>144348527
it's the same resistance system as before generally, but he's avoiding saying any numbers
the change is that ballistic damage has been split up into more categories
zeds have resist/vuln to pistol/smg/assaultrifle/shotgun damage separately
odd there's no mention of rifles that aren't assaulty
>>144348527
I think they're going to try to make it so that there is reason for people to buy something other than their T4 and either a DBS or Xbow on the side.
gorefast shotgun weakness should go a long way in making SG500 more satisfying
>>144349090
I feel like either it's gonna change nothing because the %ages will be so small people won't notice it or it's going to make everything feel retarded because weapon damage will be all over the place depending on what you shoot at whom
it's all really abstract to me, I guess we'll see
Oh my God what happened to Berserker?
Snap, fix the Zerkwalling and the Age of Aquarius is over for him.
I'm glad they didn't cut DR out though. I remember some people on the forums saying they should just remove it entirely and I was hell fucking no. A 5% cut ain't fun but it could be worse.
Shit tho no mo big health AND move speed combined. Bold moves I wasn't expecting.
I think Zerk might actually take more skill now, but I won't put a definitely on that until it's out.
Sharpshooter's not really a surprise, that code has been out there for a while now, but not that it's confirmed, I generally like what I see.
Still got some retarded skill though. Crouching and Stationary? Yeah, maybe on Hard, nothing higher.
Hans fight has just been made shorter, and the new resistances will take some getting used to and will certainly shake up the gameplay status quo.
>along with another surprise (if all goes well!)
RAE'S BOOTS
>>144350740
Well if it's 1 shot weapons, stopping for .5 sec to take your shot is no huge deal, I already do it with the crossbox because if I don't the bolt sometimes goes up randomly
>>144351443
>0.5 seconds
I wish. You know how TW like to fuck up.
Knowing them, the effect probably won't kick in until after 5.0 seconds.
>>144351551
yeah, you're right
>>144350740
>>along with another surprise (if all goes well!)
demo tier 3 pls
>9 Days and 5 Hours until E3
It's just flying past gents.
>>144347020
If you got a commando then its easy in zed time.
>>144347020
>nobody who's shit can fucking aim at a head if it keeps moving while trying to get up
ftfy
>using sniper (25%), stability (30%), rack em up (conservatively 10%), and deadeye (10%) along with the passive headshot damage bonus (guessing 20%)
>for a total of 95% bonus headshot damage, well over 100% if you keep rack em up stacks going
Are they going to make it so you can oneshot FP's on 6p HOE with a crossbow?
>>144353917
Sounds like a golden deal to me, Jimmy.
May as well enjoy it for the whole two days it will exist until the PvP crowd complain about it.
>>144354072
There's a pvp crowd?
>>144353917
Can you imagine 2-3 head shooting a boss at low health with a sedate or during zed time with ranger? Truly fun times ahead lads.
>Explosive Weapons
>Bad against Sirens
>bludgeon and slash now the same
rip zwei
>>144355391
but slash being shit is what made the zwei irrelevant, you should be saying welcome back zwei
>>144355391
Piercing: Great against Clot variants, Crawlers, Stalkers and Scrakes. Worse against Sirens, Husks, and Fleshpounds. Bad against Bloats. Higher Knockdown and Stun power.
Level 5:
>Sniper - Inflict 25% more damage while stationary with sharpshooter weapons
stationary for how long?
>Marksman - Shoot 25% faster and move 10% faster with sharpshooter weapons
shoot? as in reload or what? 10% speed... i guess in BOSS waves and kiting.
Level 10:
>Stability - Inflict 30% more damage while crouched
for how long again?
>Ballistic Shock - Stun power increased by 100%
but... crossbow stuns everything anyways, why would u need a bonus?
Level 15:
>Rack ‘em Up - Each consecutive headshot increases your damage by 5% up to 75%
yeah, yeah, obvious choice is obvious
>Combat Ready - Reload your weapons faster
when playing solo i guess
Level 20:
>Deadeye - Reduce recoil by 10% and increase headshot damage by 10% when aiming
there is already so much headshot dmg increase, piss off
>Always Prepared - Get 25% more ammo for sharpshooter weapons and grenades
nades nades nades nades
Level 25:
>Assassin - Headshot will knock down any Zed
>Ranger - Headshots will stun any zed
this is BS, ShS already stuns everything... and the fucking knockdown... This is another lvl25 skill disappointment.
>>144355553
oh snap
smash is just 200% stumble now
pulv might not knockdown anymore and zwei might get stuns?
rip pulv
>>144351551
>>144351443
>>144356319
>stationary for how long?
It didn't say stationary for a certain time. Presumably just the moment of firing. Though just because you've let off the button doesn't mean you've completely stopped moving yet.
>>144356319
>but... crossbow stuns everything anyways, why would u need a bonus?
They'll obviously adjust the Xbow and LAR once SS is out
>>144356609
you would think wouldn't you
that would be the logical thing to do
he he he
dead just after a wwaut
it's time to rest now, kfg
let go
>>144360175
I'll just take... a quick nap...
>>144356319
all z-time skills should be lv5
because nearly all of them do fuck all
>>144360175
Can confirm.
Even the CommHub is fucking dead.
No one NO ONE gives a fuck anymore.
You know, I honestly hope that TW host a fucking parade for E3, because that's probably what it's going to take to raise enough attention.
>>144360175
JUST let this thread be the last one. If it dies, don't make another. Only on the day before E3 will we need a thread.
>>144362694
to talk about what? how cool will Sharpshooter September 2017 be?
>>144354864
>Piercing
>Worse against sirens and fleshpounds
>Piercing
>worse against zeds with a metal chestplate
>worse against hardened skin
>Piercing
>>144362879
For tradition if nothing else.
It's E3. We'll turn up, watch Gibson say relevant cool stuff for 1 minute, make a fool of himself for 4 minutes, have a good laugh, have a good cry, and then go back to being dead.
>>144362882
>Tripwire
>Knowing shit about anything
What did you expect?
>>144362993
>For tradition if nothing else.
I like to have a place to talk about a game that I like to play from time to time, to share my experience of pubies, success with maties, exchange strategies. But I know I play less and less of this game, it's more of a habit rather than real fun of playing it. It's hard to let go, and move to something else. It's a great game... just dead. And I feel the same about me... I don't want to change, but it hurts to stay the same...
So I just beat suicidal solo and there were like 18 close calls and I couldn't do it on any map other than black forest.
How in the ever loving fuck do you even solo HoE?
>>144364491
>other than black forest
Why the fuck would you pick one of the shittest (and one of the hardest for me) maps to do it? Burning Paris is the easiest.
>How in the ever loving fuck do you even solo HoE?
Learn kiting route. And what perk you use?
Gonna get high and play tonight. Any tips? Anyone else play high?
>>144364775
Black Forest's openness really helps with escape routes. I'm not familiar with any routes and I relied mostly on "Okay enemies aren't coming from that way, FUCKING GO." I got corner fucked by fleshpounders twice and I thought it was over.
I was a level 24 gunslinger. It's the only class I've been playing since I started since all my friends play all the other ones.
>>144364460
I know what you mean. I love playing KF2 with /kfg/, but the game itself has really lost appeal.
The problem was, ironically, the updates.
First ROTP, then ROTZ. Just bad update after bad update. Honestly? I've loved all the fun I've had with everyone here, but I've had just about enough of this, I will not tolerate a third failure of an update.
Make no mistake, if the E3 Update brings a shit SS perk, I'm out. I have no remorse abandoning a game from a Dev that produces three updates in a year and fucks up all three.
E3 update. Last chance, Crapwire. I doubt I'm the only person who thinks this way.
>>144364491
You play Berserker and smash RMB.
>>144364984
>First ROTP, then ROTZ
what was so bad about rotp?
>>144364971
Gunslinger is really fun to solo HoE with Rack'em Up. Bad spawn can fuck you up fast but still pretty easy when played safe.
If you want easy baby mode, go medic or zerker. But gunslinger is still easy (just not baby) mode. Black Forest is bad for Gunslinger because of all the elevation (I hope I used a right word), you want to have a flat floor for easy headshots, if you want open space Farm will be better than Black Forest.
Pretty standard advice will be to try to keep the horde behind you, avoid death spots (places when you can get easily blocked and fucked), look where you're running 80% of time, turn around to take out annoying zeds and have target priority, kill sirens and husks as soon as you can.
You can heal yourself for 50hp, it's easier to solo HoE than to do it with shitty team.
>>144365361
Not him but
>Several Months for 2 maps, one of which was used as an internal testmap by TW and it's small as fuck, only has 2 traders and was bugged as fuck on release
>1 shitty new character that nobody ever uses
>Z E D C O N O M Y
>Patriarch is fun even though a bit underwhelming, can be killed with ease and it's not as dangerous as in KF1
>No Demo or Supp buffs, no FB nerfs
Slinger was good though
>Played Painkiller years ago
>Have Black Edition with DLC that I haven't played
>Try it again because KF2 is dead
>Cool shooting
>Beat standard campaign
>Try DLC
>Cool maps
>Fun guns and enemies
>Have so much with it
It even has rollercoaster ride
>>144365361
Well just off the top of my head, oh and TRIGGER WARNING: HOT OPINIONS in this post:
>LOTM Update
+ New map
+ Classic characters
- Irrelevant collectibles
- No new perks/weapons
- No teleporting changes
>I&D Update
+ Two new maps
+ Two new perks with weapons
+ New character
+ Changes for Zerk
- Changes for Zerk
- Ruined ammo
- Demo was lame, so was Support
- Zerkwalling
>ROTP Update
+ New map
+ New perk
+ New boss
+ New character
- One testmap that was rushed out
- Other perk was delayed because no time
- But apparently there was time to work on an entire RNG crate and key MT market system
-ZEDCONOMY
*** Please note: the Zedconomy didn't actually impact gameplay, but it's there because of the terrible terrible damage that it did and continues to do to KF2's reputation.
>ROTZ "Update", it honestly doesn't deserve the title
+ New map
+ Two new weapons
- Knockback
- No perk with the weapons because there was no time
- But apparently there was time to make a PvP mode no one asked for
- PvP mode that's buggy and imba and is ded within two days of release and sucks resources away from the actual game
I've deliberately ignored bug-fixing/ new bugs because I'd need another page just for those, this is mostly just content I'm talking about.
>>144367370
zed connomy would have been fine if it didnt have quality ranks and the drop table wasnt limited to shit items.
>>144367370
>+ Changes for Zerk
>- Changes for Zerk
If you honestly think we missed out on the original Zerk, you're crazy.
Zerk is in a good spot right now and changing him won't fix the AI targeting problem for zerkwalls.
Demo and Support are the only perks that really NEED re-works just because of how lame and one-sided their skills are that they're basically mandatory and should be passives.
Yet TWI are doing Demo, Commando, and Berserker.
Not that I don't like change but they're re-working them like they've never played above Hard.
>>144368509
Honestly, if it had released after Early Access it wouldn't have been half of the scandal it was. Releasing during EA was a mistake. Releasing during EA right in the middle of the Payday scandal was also a mistake.
No think of it, think of it, even from a scumbag perspective it makes no sense,
>Finish EA
>Build up lots of good will
>Out of EA debut
>Lots of people buy it because it's finished
>Enjoy first two months of big sales
>Then introduce MTs
>You already have their money
>Tell them that now it's to fund future content
OR
>Drop MTs in during EA
>Ruin your reputation
>No one buys it because it's in EA and it has MTs? LOL
>Out of EA debut
>No one buys it because the reputation has gone to shit
>Miss out on what could've been massive sales by comparison
They could have been so much smarter about it, but no, that was too hard. That required too much thinking. Now KF2 is just "That early access game with MTs LOL".
>Melee Weapons (slashing and blunt): Good against Stalkers. Worse against Clot variants, Gorefasts, Crawlers, Sirens, Husks, and Scrakes. Bad against Bloats. High flinch/hit effect power.
what the fuck is the point of melee then if it's shit against everything?
>>144371827
>gross precious healer
>removing zerks speed
>making it so zerkwalling is 100x more useful since you can't run around to help your team now
>remove knockdown for 0 reason aside from "but that's the sharpshooters zed time skill now!"
y tho, knocking down big zeds and bosses was so fucking helpful
>>144371964
Ganbatte Ebola-chan
So why Zerkers are using knife instead of crovels anyway?
>>144372606
Because you could feel it as a child growing up.
>>144371849
maybe "worse" only means "worse [than previously mentioned "good"]", and is actually just neutral?
>>144372194
>removing zerks speed
moved from passive to skill
>>144375539
>Level 5:
Dreadnaught - Increased health by 50%
Skirmisher - Move faster, sprint faster, regenerate health every second
>more immediate health or a skill that lets me run away and heal while zeds kill my teammates
great changes tw
>>144375974
AS INTENDED
>Another Berserker rework
>That Sharpshooter tree
wish I could just get a refund and forget this shitpile ever existed
>>144377132
>The perk passives are now increased melee damage, night vision and the ability to resist clot grabs.
>Night vision is still a thing.
>This new zerk now has 3 passives of which 2 are relevant.
>Support rework never, and at this rate i'd rather keep this support than get a worse one.
>Firebug, Gunslinger, and Medic are unscathed.
>>144377935
>Firebug, Gunslinger, and Medic are unscathed
Be careful what you ask for, Barrick.
>>144379316
I can only imagine that TW plans to rework all the perks just because they can even if it makes the gameplay worse.
No one would be surprised since it's rare to see them actually add some fun, new content people would get excited for like SS.
Some of the stuff they fixed, was also cause by their fuck ups
Like the recoil bug that made you have higher recoil solo offline than it was online.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKnWOvZNSTs
>commando is the only class that gets to see healthbars
for what fucking purpose
>>144381329
so he isn't completely fucking useless
promotes great teamplay by notifying teammates of SC/FP/Boss health
>>144381329
a purpose was probably forgotten mid2009 and not rethought by twi since
Because commando had only the bullpup originally, he needed something to do against big guys other than hurt them, so I guess voicechatting to mister hunting shotgun how close to done he is was the idea?
>>144381329
Because only new players who don't know what the fuck is going on need healthbars, and since most new players believe (fairly correctly) that Commando is a good starting point, Commando gets it.
>>144382171
>turn a corner on a FP that someone else has already damaged to some extent
>no benefit in having health bars, I've played this franchise 3000 hours, so I know that this FP is... uhh, well, hmmm. Not dead yet. It will need one death applied in order to make it stop living.
>>144382768
>I know that this FP is still alive, so I need to kill it.
>It's not like I'm some faggot who will assess how much of its healthbar remains, then decide how much more I'd like to take off, then shoot off the amount I decided upon, and then leave the rest of the problem to someone else.
I don't really get what you were trying to type, it seems like you were attempting to be clever, but thanks for proving my point anyway.
>explosives bad against sirens
>piercing bad against the armoured zeds
>handguns good against fleshpounds and scrakes
haha wat
>microwave still the best damage type
quelle surprise
>assault rifles bad against husks and sirens
I don't even know anymore
Why are they splitting the damage by gun type? Are they implying it's how it shoots not the caliber that determines damage?
I thought these guys were 'gun nuts'.
>>144383123
Are they actually changing values to match these or are they just telling us what's good/bad on zeds like we don't already know?
>>144383273
> With the upcoming changes certain weapon types do better or worse against different Zeds.
>>144383403
I missed that part, thanks.
Seems pretty stupid to implement in the first place.
>>144383554
>Seems pretty stupid to implement in the first place.
I see you're new here, welcome to KF2!
>>144383271
>I thought these guys were 'gun nuts'.
https://youtu.be/uBajbC3_5Zw?t=62
>>144382171
wow dude you're a real hardcore gamer
>>144383914
I forgot how the medguns' graphically being all recycled crap instead of each being interesting individual weapons was touted as a fun cool system.
they really need to do something about the microwave gun, 1 flesh pound fight will set you back half your ammo
>>144387337
115/500 ≠ 1/2
god, these comments on latest WWAUT - Its one of you faggots, isnt it?
>>144388245
it was me
>it's another "reload faster but we didn't bother with elite animations for it like we said we were going to for these" skill
>>144387926
115? what on solo normal?
>>144388649
???
>>144388676
someone doesn't know about ground tapping
>>144388748
firebug and reworked demo
assuming that's what "fire faster" means for an arsenal of 1shot weapons
>>144389491
strange, i remember there was a talk about elite animations
I don't think they could POSSIBLY make zerk worse than it will be now.
On release everyone complained it was weak and its skills were useless. But hey, we didn't have knockback or shit parrying back then.
Now we'll have probably the worst possible zerk.
>has to choose between DR and damage and will still be worse at either one than before the patch
>25 ammo for the pulverizer
>no knockdown skill anymore
>knockback meaning the perk who needs to stay in range and keep track of where he's going the most will have the hardest time doing so
>parrying is a fucking joke for the most part
>grenades will most likely be made redundant by what SS gets
ONCE AGAIN THERE WILL BE LITERALLY NO POINT PLAYING THIS OVER MEDIC WITH A MELEE WEAPON
>>144389879
>no knockdown skill anymore
I'm thinking that it will become part of the weapon stats along with the incap changes.
>>144389879
>>25 ammo for the pulverizer
20
>>144390372
Oh right, excuse me
>20 ammo for the pulverizer
>>144390580
wouldn't want to be able to hurt that third fleshpound too much right haha
>>144391253
Pretty much.
As if it wouldn't be bad enough that zerk will be utter shit after the next update, it will also have basically no fucking role.
Firebug will still clear trash like no tomorrow.
Demo will actually be able to take out FPs and deal with groups of zeds.
SS will murder Scrakes and probably FPs too.
Commando will clear trash worse than Firebug but will have the range advantage.
Zerk will just be a "trash clearer" that does the job worse than Commando (let alone Firebug) with no range, only HP or only damage, and maybe mobility, while also having to suffer the hardest from knockback and making zerkwalling literally the only way to realistically survive.
I thought when they made Demo as shit as it was there was no way they could top it. Boy was I wrong.
>>144391814
>As per usual, these values are not final and are subject to change before release.
It's like the first Demo changes compared to the Continued perk changes
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=117847
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=117915
They changed everything about demo except Siren resistance still being a skill.
Maybe they'll get enough 'community feedback' and won't make Berseker such a mess.
>>144393932
I sincerely doubt TW will change their mind. They have been raping zerk since before the game even came out.
First it came out shit.
Then they "fixed" it and made parrying shit.
Then they nerfed the "fixed" zerk.
Then they added knockback to "stop zerkwalling" which only made it worse for everyone (including non-zerks) who AREN'T zerkwalling.
Then they lower the pulverizer's ammo count because god forbid if 2 perks could actually hurt Fleshpounds.
Then they come up with this final shit cocktail that will make zerk unplayable.
And even if they do revert the last 8 months worth of changes they will still try different ways to "fix" zerk.
I'd rather have a zerk that's outright broken than one that's fucking worthless. If you make a melee class that ISN'T broken it'll be shit because of the inherent downsides to being a melee perk.
>>144384156
shut up white bitch
>8 Days and 20 Hours until E3
It's just flying past gents.
>>144395790
What I don't get is if reworking perks is so easy, why not work on getting MA or SWAT done? Or at least show some progress.
They're very much capable of working on weapons in their free time like the M32 and Husk Launcher.
It shouldn't take very long for them to polish them and call them official.
Trying to balance classes as they are now without all the perks just makes it worse for everyone.
Spliting Berserker's playstyle between being a glass canon or a slow tank sounds like something they rushed out.
As if the VLAD and Evis weren't irrelevant enough, this new skill tree doesn't even make them viable options.
At least the VLAD has (25% + 1% each level) perk weapon damage and both VLAD and Evis can get easy stuns with Menace.
But now you have to use the "Butcher" skill and you only get 25% damage.
MA should be the fragile, higher damage perk they're trying to push onto Zerk.
TWI have already finished SS, they're just fucking with us until their E3 conference when they show off their PS4 version and tell us the game is done.
>>144385347
When I first saw the video I was kinda hyped for the Medic weapons. I thought they would work like how D44M's weapon mods work where you just rip a piece off and slap another piece on. Have the shotgun front weigh one or two and the rifle weigh two or three. The Medic weapons could have been so fucking cool
>>144356319
>shoot? as in reload or what?
higher fire rate on m14, faster levering on lever-action, i guess faster reload on crossbow
>>144397346
Are we expecting a KF2 update during E3? Because E3 is fucking shit.
>>144404191
E3 is when they'll announce when the Sharp is being released, and presumably all these other proposed updates.
It could feasibly be "we're updating today!" but I'm not getting my hopes up.
>zerk got changes before support
What are those bois thinking?
>>144406669
"We need to just start throwing any and all the shit we have at the wall because this isn't how we wanted early access to go."
I just wish that when they finally improve Support, it's not going to be speed boost + more DMG from shotgun pellets
i hope they will come up with a better solution, that makes welding not so pointless and makes every team want to have a support. it's fine if support sucks SOLO, but make it so that people go "oh, we can't have 6 gunslingers guys... somebody has to medic and... somebody... has to be.... THE SUPPORT!!1"
Until that time comes, please, just a tiny fix update - increase starting range of DMG drop off, make Supplier a passive skill, increase welding speed by 9000%.
>>144404191
No there won't be an update at E3. We just call it the "E3 Update" because TW haven't yet given the FREE CONTENT PACK its unique marketing title yet.
>That one guy always telling me time is flying past
>Go look at the pc gamer show website
>Tripwire are in partners section
>But they aren't in presenters section
Um... this is some kind of scheduling oversight right?
http://www.pcgamingshow.com/
>>144407974
Last time I checked it they were listed twice under presenters and it was their old logo.
I think you guys are whining too much abbout those perk changes already. It's really hard to tell what it's gonna be in game when we have it, I say wait and try the stuff before declaring it ruins everything. We played with zerker in many setups and always did fine with it.
>>144409458
Pretty much. TW having a talent for making something that looks like X on paper turn out to be like Y in practice, in ways both good and bad.
Honestly, when I look at Berserker, the only game-changer for me personally is having to choose between lots of health OR move speed. I've honestly grown very accustomed to both, I'm not afraid to admit that running around with 100HP again is going to take some getting used to.
That said, apart from that, most of the nerfs seem pretty nominal to me.
25% DR is now 20%? Well that decrease isn't good news to me, but considering that I once had to put up with just 5% DR, I'm willing to settle.
Instead of posting all the contents of the thread here I'll just post the link
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=117974
Give me your thoughts on this. Do you think it's a reasonable suggestion. My thread was relegated to the ideas and suggestions section so it can be promptly ignored completely by TWI.
>>144409458
>Zerk started out shit with shit skills
>Became a god with intro of the zwei and smash
>Zwei, health, and smash were nerfed to accommodate
>Pulv ammo was nerfedfor PvP
>New skill tree rework takes all the old passives except three, and puts them into various skills to choose from
At least he's not OP anymore :^)
>Studying for assessments
>Want to play some nice vidya as a break
>Want to play KF2
>But I'm fatigued and don't want to play it without new content
>Want to replay Dark Souls
>But it's too time consuming since I need to study
>Assessments don't end until about another two weeks
>But the first one ain't till next week
>My life right now consists of studying while waiting for assessments and ennui while waiting for updates
Oh man.
>>144410706
If they wanted to to apply to all zeds, they'd have to do something like +4HP per 200 damage done or something like that so you don't get a lot of health form weaker zeds but you get a lot more from stronger zeds.
If the zed doesn't have enough health to reach the theoretical 200 damage threshould to get +4HP and you end up killing it, it'll give it to you anyways since crawlers have 55hp, stalkers at 75, clots at 100, etc.
>>144412197
yes and it's not hard to do, calculations of optimal values are easy and even if they screw up they have their data mining shit and Live Update system.
Also game conductor could change these values, to punish zerks for being too zerky.
>>144410706
You and the others make good points.
You're right that the fixed 4 health is absurd.
>Crawler attacks you. It deals 5 damage. You kill it. You get 4 health back.
>Fleshpound attacks you. it deals 30 damage. You kill it. You get 4 health back.
That's crap. It's no compensation for attacking greater foes.
However, it would make no sense to apply it per hit either. Otherwise you could just stand in front with an Evis and never lose a damn fraction of your health. That too would be ridiculous.
Instead, TW should consider assigning set values based on the kill target.
Perhaps a Crawler kill gets you 4 HP, while a Gorefast gets you 6HP, a Scrake 12 HP and a Fleshpound 20HP and so on.
Now obviously, those values I just put up aren't what I think would be fitting, they're just examples to explain a point: more HP returned for taking on a bigger risk and engaging a more dangerous target.
On a side note, I'd like to point out that first guy.
>There is a strong incentive to tackle them actually. They are scrakes and fleshpounds and they need to die or your team will. If HP regen is your only motivation to do anything you're playing zerker wrong.
Obviously he's talking a bit of shit, but he makes a good point in one regard.
While I'm sure you wouldn't do it, I can imagine Zerks bitching "OH WELL TW RUINED ME GUIZ IT'S UP TO YOU NOW".
I remember when the Pulv got the ammo nerf, some faggot cuck on the forum made a thread saying "SIRENS AND HUSKS ARE NO LONGER BERSERKER TARGETS, TEAMMATES MUST DEAL WITH THEM INSTEAD".
I'm not gonna lie, his attitude really fucking irritated me. I went and replied "Well let's see. You've still got unloaded RMBs, LMBs, and Zweis (which by the way, can shred even HOE Sirens and Husks, as you'd know if you'd ever gotten off your Crutcherizer), so stop being a SHITTER and get stuck in".
I personally have zero patience for those people.
>>144412792
>those people
what did he mean by this?
>>144413049
Sorry, I meant those people who, when a nerf strikes, decide that throwing their hands up in the air and crying I CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE is easier than adapting to the new situation.
Don't get me wrong, some nerfs are just plain unfair, and while I don't believe the Pulv nerf RUINED Berserker, even I thought that 20 max shells at $85 each was a little savage.
That said, when a nerf strikes you can do one of two things.
You can be a loser and just give up. Because it's too hard. Because you can't do it. Because it's impossible.
Or, you can be a winner and press on. Continue to play well despite the nerf, at the very least, to play as well as you can. Muster what you can in the situation and strive for what success you can earn.
Maybe the nerf is just temporary, to be undone in a future update. Maybe the nerf is permanent, to remain forever whether you like it or not.
Either way, until the nerf settles to one of those two conclusions, you can think like a winner or you can think like a loser.
>inb4 loser cakeboys run up on me
>>144412197
Or something simpler, like "2 health per hit"
>wave 6
>2000+ credits on me
>"anon did you buy kevlar again?"
>"STOP BUYING KEVLAR ANON ITS WASTING"
>"God these pubbies piss me off so much, next time we set a password guys"
what is their fucking problem
>>144413762
*runs up to you*
I DIDN'T NEED THESE NERFS ON MY MAIN, FUCK THIS I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO PLAY IT ANYMORE. UNTIL THEY FIX IT
>>144416585
Clans, gotta play by their rules
>end of wave 6/10 HoE on outpost
>4 fleshpounds at the same time
Never seen that before, even less this soon in the game
not dead tbqh
Let's share loadouts and skills
Firebug
Fully stocked
Heat wave
Zed Shrapnel
Splash Damage
Scorch
Microwave gun
Dual 9mm
Medic pistol
Katana
>>144395790
>If you make a melee class that ISN'T broken it'll be shit because of the inherent downsides to being a melee perk.
so let's not have melee classes
>>144413762
When served shit on a plate, there are two options.
>Maybe the nerf is just temporary, to be undone in a future update.
Not if everyone eats it up, never criticizing it.
>check out the latest WWAUT
>certain weapons have more strength and weaknesses against certain zeds
I'm not feeling it, mr krabs. The guys who could have safely picked off medium zeds with their rifles and handguns are now less suited thanks to those resistances. Sure they might not mean much in the long run, but
Also is it me or are they making so much more bulky now? Not that i'm complaining much, but I just see so much "bad against bloats" that its surprising.
if you look at the current system of resistances getting changed, bullets have always been bad against bloats
>>144430523
you seen to be missing words there friend
>>144430839
Fuck, how did that even happen?
Making bloats so much more bulky*
>>144409867
>but considering that I once had to put up with just 5% DR, I'm willing to settle.
Keep in mind that one of zerk's old skills actually decreased zed damage by 40% (I think?) after hitting it once, and that stayed until it died.
Reading through the new WWAUT Perk and Balance changes.
>Fire remains unchanged except somehow less shit at killing bloats and more shit at killing gorefasts
Um, okay.
>SMGs are mediocre
Nothing new here.
>Assault rifles are better at overall trash clearing than SMG, still shit against big zeds, somehow much worse against bloats.
Who the fuck is mag-dumping into a bloat's body?
>Shotguns are relatively unchanged but now shit against stalkers now
U fookin wot m8?!
>Handguns (assuming GS weapons) are better against big zeds than medium zeds according to the changes
How? Just how?
>Melee weapons (slashing and blunt) now apparently good against only stalkers, shit at killing everything else important
RIP Zerk, died trying to kill something with a zweihander with slashing damage instead of bashing things to death with a syringe as intended.
>Microwave gun is now good versus medium and big zeds, somehow bad at clearing trash
What? I don't understand, it isn't a fucking crossbow, it's the epitome of spray and pray tactics. How can that NOT be good for trash zeds?
>Explosives are bad against sirens
Grenades have always been fucked by sirens, but is demo's siren resist no longer a thing?
>Piercing is bad against armored FPs and also bloats
As far as I know, piercing is supposed to PIERCE armor isn't it? And last time I checked, crossbow bolts make fat and fleshy bloats explode. I don't want to live in a world where crossbow bolts bounce off of bloat flesh like rubber and ricochet back at me.
COLLAPSING
>>144431465
>shotguns now are shit on stalkers for the price of being better on gorefasts
I guess that's a considerable upgrade? Stalkers are pretty fragile as is and being able to fuck up Gores with your starting shotty again is nice.
you SHOULD be able to solve this...
>>144432784
I don't see the difference tho, the sg500 already headshots 2 gorefasts in a line as it is.
>>144434468
I'm just bad and want shotguns to feel satisfying again
>>144434468
>sg500 already headshots 2 gorefasts in a line as it is.
Without headshots, even if you land every single pellet on a gorefast with the SG500 at point blank, he doesn't die, and he doesn't have any reaction whatsoever, and he's fast and close, so he gets some hits in before you can pump for another shot.
With the gorefast shotgun weakness they're adding, he'll die if you land all/enough pellets, and if you miss enough pellets that he survives, the accumulative incap system that they're adding should stumble him, giving you time to pump and shoot again before he can attack
It's a shame there's no mention of knockdown for shotguns. If I get 18+ pellets at once from a double barrel blast into a scrake's head, I want him to do a backflip.
>>144437414
gunslingers knockdown skill is like that, shoot a scrake in the leg and he goes flying 7m back and falls face down on the ground
when i do that to scrake i almost want to run up to him and say "oh shit, dude, are you allright?"
To decap 6player HoE Scrake
with bone breaker
1xbow + 8 magnum shots
with ReU starting from 0
1xbow + 7 magnum shots
with ReU starting from 7
1xbow + 5 magnum shots
with bone breaker
1xbow + 11 deagle shots
with ReU starting from 0
1xbow + 8 deagle shots
with ReU starting from 7
1xbow + 7 deagle shots
with ReU starting from 7
1xbow + 15 M1911 shots
Keep your eyes peeled for survivors.She has to be out there somewhere..
>>144442765
and in a few weeks, all of this is irrelevant because you won't stun scrakes with offperk xbow anymore
>>144444037
is sophie briar's wive, or his daughter?
>>144444054
Maybe offperk railgun will stun?
I wonder how much inventory space will be left with that thing.
>>144444425
I'm seeing it going to weigh 10, probably why they changed the LAR and Xbow to be one weight less each so you can at least use it with LAR
>>144444425
It's gonna be 10kg
Surely won't be able to carry railgun+M14
Railgun+Xbow would probably be too redundant for anyone to want it anyways
If it's too heavy, stun skill might make M14+Xbow more appealing than railgun+whatever, that'd be kinda neat, to see a tier 4 get passed up for once.
>>144445359
>to see a tier 4 get passed up for once.
The Evis is still a thing
>>144444444
>>144444054
nothing will be relevant when sharpie cums out
>>144444635
>>144444604
nah, 13
and 250 dosh per shot ammo
we m99 again
>>144445696
The eviscerator is really good though?
>>144446059
But it's still better to just take a Pulv+whatever backup you want, Med rifle preferred
>>144446059
it's okay
but people don't pick berzerker because they want to shoot with things, they pick it to swing and poke with things.
so evis gets passed up
>>144294280
>>144294853
>>144294925
>>144295082
>First, let us consider the fact that for the first time ever, as a species, Early Access Done Right is in our reach
> inseparable from Hope is its dark twin, Entitlement.
>It must be fought tooth and nail, beginning with the basest of player urges: The urge to update.
>>144445995
would not mind if it weighs 15 and 1 bullet costs up to 75dosh (same as reward for SC kill)
assuming it can 1 shot SC if u use all the skills that increase headshot DMG (except ReU) and 2 shot FP (200 dosh reward), but the first shot has to stun... or maybe not... for extra fun.
>>144446123
I prefer to go Katana, DBS and Nailgun. If we haven't got a demo on the team to help me out, replace nailgun with M79
>>144446956
>weighs 15
If kf2 sharp has no benefits for his 9mm, 15 would be too much. Let him grab a medpistol at least.
>>144446956
>1 shot SC if u use all the skills that increase headshot DMG (except ReU)
I want it to be comically close to 1shot decaping a 6pHoE scrake, but not quite
this giant scifi cannon blasts him in the face, and he's still in one piece
but then you walk up and pistol whip his head afterward, and it splatters to chunks
I uninstalled out of boredom a few months ago, is the patch in yet and is the game worth playing yet?
>>144452517
no
no
>>144447387
no. he will have his knife and 9mm. That's all he deserves.
>>144416585
>Buying armour in Wave 6, when Scrakes and Fleshpounds are spawning in, is considered wasteful
Now comes the part where pubbies wonder why they wipe.
>>144397346
>tfw you made it into the meme
I feel empowered
>>144397346
>explosions :D :D :D
>mfw
>>144455813
xbow+m14+medpistol would get taken instead by anyone not intentionally gimping themselves, and the railgun's development would go to waste
>>144447004
Hello Yoshiro.
>>144397346
Call me crazy but I actually like the knockback.
>>144461667
I think it should be toned down or removed on the small stuff, but I like it on the big zeds.
>>144461667
found the firebug main
>>144462104
Berserker actually.
>>144461772
Even the small stuff are human-sized and can easily weight +70kg.
>>144462309
a clot meekly slapping me shouldnt toss me 10 feet across the room
>>144462309
>Even the small stuff are human-sized and can easily weight +70kg.
I understand that, but it's just a matter of being more annoying than fun. It should be reserved for the big stuff that looks like it could throw you around like how previously only Hans and Patty had the kick knockback.
>>144461667
That's why I put you in my image.
>>144462309
>Crawlers
>70+kg
"No"
OK /kfg/ fuck all this shitposting about the gameplay.
It's time for discussion that matters.
Real talk /kfg/
Rae.
Will they JUST fuck her up?
Will she be a good character?
Will she look nice?
Will she sound nice?
Will she have nice boots?
Because I heard that Payday got an Australian woman as well and I took one look at her and said OH GOOD LORD NO.
>>144469851
>decide to look up Payday aussie woman to see what you're on about
>just saw the results
Good fucking lord, where do they get these ideas from and think "that's looking good, ship it out"?
>>144469851
why would u care about any of this?
it's an aussie bitch, gonna look like one and sound like one
>>144462309
>Even the small stuff are human-sized
smaller than the squaddies, and the squaddies are shorter than average men
I'll guess 30kg crawlers, 45kg stalkers/cysts, 60kg clots/slashers, 75kg gorefasts
>>144470440
Thankfully we already have a Goth Edgequeen, so I think the only risk now is an Abo.
>>144470446
REAL TALK.
LIFE
IS A PATH
DEATH A DESTINATION
I'm feeling stabby!
>E3 happens
>TW announce the Finale Update will arrive on 30th of June
>Update arrives on time and adds SS, as well as fixing all the shit we hate
>MA & SWAT confirmed for first new update in October, which is when KF2 goes live on consoles
>KF2 makes a miracle bounceback and everyone comes back to play
>/kfg/ is alive again and the good times roll
>The good old days right after 9/11 come back to us
It's fun to dream.
Hello good people of /kfg/.
Don't check Posters, i'm new
How the hell are you actually supposed to deal with an 6 HoE SC or FP alone?
Let's assume your team wipes, there is only you and your 2 friends - SC and FP left. You are not a berserker and no, you do not have a crossbow or LAR.
>inb4 start with FP make sure SC is far away
>>144472069
Idk man, lets talk more about the situation. What are you, the medic? A gunslinger? There are methods to all, but it all varies outside of taking advantage of teammates weapons.
>>144471787
dreaming is a sin
>>144472069
You take out your knife and die with honor instead of making 5 people wait for 30min.
>>144472932
let's say you are a Commando and can only use mando perk weapons
>>144474232
>Commando
>Fleshpounds
You're fucked
>Scrakes
Land 28 SCAR head shots, you can shoot 4-5 bullets before it rages, reload and then empty your mag. If it's still alive then bash to either reload or finish it off
>>144474659
bash, ok will try this
support works with DBS jumping... firebug is kinda fucked.... Demo headshots SC with RPG...
What about Slinger vs Fleshpound?
>>144472069
>no, you do not have a crossbow or LAR.
Well, what DO you have?
Many loadouts should have a medpistol, though.
If you need distance from a scrake, shoot him in the leg with a medgun to legstumble him. His legstumble lasts 1.5 seconds and you can do it to him every 3s, so he's tripping half the time, easy to outrun. Using any other half decent weapons along with this, anyone can kite him around a familiar map without getting hit very easily if there are no other zeds on you.
FPs WILL hit you if you're not equipped for them. Work with that, hurt them as much as possible with them hurting you as least possible. The way to do that is managing their rage.
FPs should never be raged if you don't have a plan. A very simple plan is to get your guns and healthbar loaded up, get some distance, and dump on him, doing as much damage as you can while he does his rage animation and runs at you, until he hits you.
To get hit only once instead of by a whole combo of attacks, either interrupt him with a reaction such as bashing to stumble him, or jump, to help the knockback of one hit send you out of reach of the rest of the combo.
When he hits you, or a teammate, he stops raging, and it's a very inopportune time for him to rage again, so STOP dealing damage to him. The the player that was hit and is still the FP's target is hurt, your guns are empty, and you don't have distance. Fix as much of that as possible before raging him again.
Don't dawdle too much, though, or he'll surprise you with an autorage, and you lose the opportunity to dump damage on him for the entire time he's raging.
>>144475352
You've got 2 options, they're both not easy to pull off unless you got good aim and a lot of practice
First way is landing 10 deagle headshots, watch out for both of its rage animations, once if finishes raging let it hit you once and bash, if you time it correctly it won't hit you again. That will de-rage it, get a little bit of space and now empty your dual .500s into its head and it should be dead
Second method is similar, except when it rages you switch to your .500 and shoot it in the leg to knock it down, then empty the rest of your shots into its head before it gets up
Here's how it looks in motion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvllJ7CmbMs
>>144476831
Oh yeah forgot something important, after you bash the Fleshpound do NOT shoot it again until the bash animation is over or it'll skip the rage animation completely and just go ham on your ass
>>144446059
>Be medic in a game where dosh is tight
>Still using SMG wave 6
>Barely enough dosh to buy Med AR, can't even fill it up before wave 7
>Zerk joins right before wave 8
>Buys a motherfucking Evis
>"Uh, you sure you know what you're doing?"
>"STFU It works for me!"
>Wave starts, Zerk is not tanking anything, running away from every big zed
>Flash forward through the chaos, it's just me and that Zerk left with 2 FPs
>He's not touching them, at all, leaving me to deal with it
>I'm tanking FP hits, 1 mag left in my AR
>"Zerk, WTF, KILL. SOMETHING."
>"I'M OUT OF AMMO!"
>Proceeds to run around like a headless chicken until we inevitably wipe.
>Has the gall at the end to say "You all should've been more helpful and told me where to find ammo boxes."
>"Zerk, I think a level 0 support with a crovel would've been more helpful against those FPs than you at that point"
>"Wow, you're a real asshole. You obviously have never played zerk."
>Speechless, I look him up
>400+ Hours in Perk Trainer
Evis is shit. It will always be shit. The people who use it will never NOT be shit.
End of blog. Sorry, I needed to get that out of my system.
>>144478325Simawas good with an Evis.
>>144478512
>SimaGetsHUSKED.webm
>>144478954
Please don't sexualise Sima.
>>144476831
>auto aim on heads
why
>>144476831
>watch out for both of its rage animations
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=117881
They patched the FP in an update to have 1 rage animation which is him pounding the ground before charging, so the one where he stands there and shakes his arms/head in the air is gone.
>>144480849
That sucks, it was easier to headshot the other animation, and it was similar to the kf1 animation.
Updates when?We're getting SS before next year, right?
>>144231750
Stop it.
>>144486123If you ever come backYou'll be welcome
>>144474232
>>144474659
>commando
>fleshpounds
>you're fucked
wew lad
Unload your SCAR into the FP's head, knife parry to derage, reload, rinse and repeat. You can decap him in 6p HoE at the cost of taking about 30 damage total. Same can be done with Slinger using .500s.
>when the game is dead but you're not.
>>144490015
>Can we talk about 555 In-Game
Every time
p a g e 1 0
>>144494137
Just another night with /kfg/
Love you guys.
Hey I haven't played in a few months. Is support good yet?
Because when I was around he was such complete utter garbage that playing him on hard and above would make you an active detriment to the rest of the team.
>>144495027
Support is okay now.
It got an ammo buff, but headshot falloff is still a thing.
>>144495027
It has more ammo now and the AA-12 is back at 1500 dosh, its Elite reload is faster as well
It's okay for now
>>144495169
>>144495237
Well that's nice to know. Might start playing again once the next update rolls around. Whenever that may be.
>>144495973
See you in a few months then.
If I could work at Tripwire for a day
I could live my life the free and easy way
I'd take from Mr Gibson and let the MTs pay
If I could work at Tripwire for a day
Now if for one whole day, at Tripwire I could be
The first thing I'd do is leave the Company
Or stay and let Yoshiro and Ramm do my thinkin' for me
If I could work at Tripwire for a day
Now I wouldn't wanna work, cause I wouldn't have to
Guess what I'd do next, well, you shouldn't need a clue
I'd go down to book my cruise like all the others do
If I could work at Tripwire for a day
If I could work at Tripwire for a day
I could live my life the free and easy way
I'd take from Mr Gibson and let the MTs pay
If I could work at Tripwire for a day
Now when I'd sit down in that office, the office of booking
I'd get first class, a fine cabin, and cuisine cooking
From all the MT cash from the whales we’ve been hooking
If I could work at Tripwire for a day
Now I'd have lots of free time, so I'd wanna blow up a mob
So I’d mod myself the M32, with some exploding balls to lob
Now that would make me self-employed so why'd I even work this job?
If I could work at Tripwire for a day
If I could work at Tripwire for a day
I could live my life the free and easy way
I'd take from Mr Gibson and let the MTs pay
If I could work at Tripwire for a day
And if I saw complaint I’d ban it, so they'd know they shouldn’t try it
And if they tried to call me out you know that I'd deny it
And I’d call our forum fanboys, they'd come and start a riot
If I could work at Tripwire for a day
But I don’t work at Tripwire, and I don't really want to be
Cause Munk, let me tell ya, it's plain and simple to see
That if I was you for a day then I'd be taking from me
So I don't wanna work at Tripwire for a day
I don't wanna work at Tripwire for a day
I don't wanna live the free and easy way
I'll struggle on Long, and struggle on HOE, but that's okay
Cause I'll never work at Tripwire for a day
No, I'll never work at Tripwire for a day
I havent played since before gunslinger/patty and I cant seem to find any info on the new meta. OP guides are ancient and babby tier, google results are all old. Can anyone summarize or link me something? I'm guessing the main things I need to know about are zerker, gunslinger, ss weapons, and hans/patty as I'm guessing not much else has changed.
>>144500495
It probably won't matter for long since the game will be getting a massive meta update in the near future (maybe, but this is Tripwire we're talking about, so who knows for sure) but at the moment it's as follows:
The Crossbow is pretty game breaking, it can stun Fleshpounds and deals massive damage to them despite being an off-perk weapon for all perks currently. It can even stunlock a Scrake thus making it an easy kill without it even being able to retaliate.
Gunslinger is still a staple but in my experience the Crossbow makes the S&W 500's redundant because of its stun plus damage.
Firebug is still broken and clears trash like no tomorrow. Shrapnel in particular murders groups of zeds and the increased ammo count makes spamming even easier.
Medic is still important and with the addition of knockback it's effectively required for HoE.
Zerk is a lot weaker than before because of knockback and ammo nerfs (it went from 35 pulverizer rounds to only 20) but it can still hold on its own. Generally though because of the direct and indirect nerfs it's gotten, you're better off with a more specialized perk.
Commando and Support are a bit better thanks to ammo buffs and don't really drag the team down. Commando is the better of the two I'd say.
Demolitions is at the moment completely redundant thanks to the Crossbow which murders Fleshpounds and stuns them, something that Demolitions (or Medic in zed time if you wanna get picky) was the only one that could do it until then.
Basically the general pub meta is this:
1/2 zerks at most, at least one of which is on zerkwall duty.
One Firebug that murders trash and throws money at people (I forgot to mention the huge money buff) when he gets the MWG.
One Medic that heals people and preferably buys a Crossbow to stund big zeds with.
The rest of the team can pick whatever perks they want as long as they don't get more than 1 Demo as it can barely carry its own weight and 2 of them downright gimp the team.
>>144501672
>zerkwall
>>144501978
Have you never heard of the term, or are you calling me and/or others a scrub for doing so?
In case of the former:
Take a zerk, put it near a corridor where zeds will funnel through, and have him block them and attack. They're very easy to kill and sometimes they won't even attack because they're targeting a player behind the zerk instead.
In case of the latter:
Knockback is so fucking cheap and HoE teleportation is so fucking cheap that I don't blame anyone who zerkwalls. If the game played fair and didn't try literally every cheap trick in the book I'd feel ashamed about it, but as it is now zerks will absolutely struggle to survive outside of zerkwalls and get needlessly punished when NOT zerkwalling because of knockback.
I don't know how Tripwire thought you could stop zerkwalling by giving ALL players knockback. Even more so when zerks that DON'T zerkwall are the ones actually being punished while the zerkwallers feel little to no knockback since they're probably crouching and can just get back in there.
>>144501672
Thank you. In the absence of crossbow cheese, how are things working? Bashing scrakes and fleshpounds is effective low damage stalling to finish shooting them in the head? Their rage is still unparriable bullshit? Zwei is useless? Is pulv alt fire knockdown and repeat headshots still a thing?
>>144502241
>In the absence of crossbow cheese, how are things working?
What, you mean currently, or as I predict they will go in the future?
In the future, I have no idea. The incap system is being changed and when SS is actually in the game it will change things radically.
Currently? I do see a handful of games where nobody buys Crossbows, and while they are a bit more difficult it's still manageable.
Like you said, it's Crossbow cheese. It's not *required* to win HoE.
>Bashing scrakes and fleshpounds is effective low damage stalling to finish shooting them in the head?
It is, but the only one I've seen doing that is myself. Usually for Scrakes people just start shooting the shit out of it or a zerk will try to take the aggro so nobody else gets hurt. Sometimes a Demo uses RPG direct hits and everyone starts attacking it afterwards, but that's rare.
For Fleshpounds it's more or less the same. If nobody has a Crossbow, a Demo or zerk initiates rage on it and everyone shoots it to death.
>Their rage is still unparriable bullshit?
Yes.
>Zwei is useless?
Yep.
>Is pulv alt fire knockdown and repeat headshots still a thing?
Yes, but it's VERY limited in utility, especially on 6p HoE because of the ammo nerf. Let's assume at least a couple of other teammates are shooting the FP, but nobody uses explosives. You'll easily spend 8 pulverizer shells on a single FP. That's WITH teammates shooting it.
If you're killing it alone from full HP it takes 10.
You can still knock them down and pulverize them, but you can only solokill them from full HP twice before you run out of ammo.
Yes, ammo boxes and Supplier exist, but even if you get 1 of each of them you only have enough for 1 more FP, and that's without using ANY other pulverizer rounds on sirens or random zeds.
>>144502552
Alright, thank you for the detailed responses. It's a damn shame about the zwei as facepoking was so good while it lasted. I think I remember the alt fire being something like 3 or 4 swings, an actual quick kill while knocking the fucking thing down.
Tripwires incompetence, given KF1's relative glory, is stunning.
>>144502782
>Tripwires incompetence, given KF1's relative glory, is stunning.
I'm almost 100% certain everything they did right in KF1 was done right purely out of accident. Either that or almost nobody that worked on KF1 worked on KF2.
I said it some time ago but KF2 evokes an uncanny valley sort of feeling. The zeds are there, dosh is there, characters and fun gunplay are there, but it's just not really Killing Floor. KF2 feels like it was developed by a different company altogether that saw some things people liked in KF1 but didn't know WHY they liked them or what made those things good.
Any good guide on how to create MT content? They rely on users to actually make the content, right? So how do I make let's say a helmet in the SDK?
>>144502975
The fact that they keep fucking ignoring HoE metrics speaks volumes.
>>144503309
You mean a retexture or a model?
I can help with the former, but not the latter, since I do texture work but no modeling.
>>144503415
both, really, I'd like to try my hand at making clothing items so that's modeling.
>>144503494
For texturing I have these Steam guides:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=521160484
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=659601171
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=632993284
https://tripwireinteractive.atlassian.net/wiki/display/KF2SW/Killing+Floor+2+Workshop
The first one is for making a skin in general, which is pretty much required knowledge.
The second one is more detailed information on what texture settings in the SDK do.
The third one is for making a Medic weapon skin specifically. If you don't plan on ever making one you can just ignore it.
The last one is a link to Tripwire's wiki page which contains information on all kinds of things. Very useful especially if you're an SDK novice.
Just feel free to ask about anything else and I'll try to help you out.
>>144502216
>I don't know how Tripwire thought you could stop zerkwalling by giving ALL players knockback.
Oh they didn't actually think that would fix it.
You see, Tripwire are well aware that Zerkwalling is a problem due to Zed AI Targeting. However, fixing that would involve having to sit down and do some actual hard work, and why would you go and do that stupid shit when you can just rush out a shithouse bandaid stop-gap solution that doesn't actually solve anything?
>>144503953
Thanks I'll start by trying to make a texture then.
>>144504175
Those sentences contradict each other.
On SOME level Tripwire thought "hey, this might actually work." Yes, you have to go through not only a mental gymnastics session but a whole fucking mental gymnastics Olympic game to reach that kind of conclusion, but nonetheless they thought it would fix it.
If they already knew it wouldn't fix it then it was added to the game exclusively to satisfy the programmer whose fetish it is to be thrown around like a beachball, much to the detriment of everyone (except those with severe mental disabilities) else who plays the game.
HOLY FUCK
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=695567500
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=695567500
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=695567500
>>144504406
>Those sentences contradict each other.
Welcome to TW my friend. Waste time and resources on dumb shit, but spare none for what's actually needed.
>>144504483
>Doing that to the Zwei.
Yeah hold up I got just the right reaction image for you.
>>144388649
disregard that, I suck cocks
>>144503953
Those guides don't tell me which file I should be painting over. Should I copy the file textures/Wep_1stP_MB500_S and just fuck its shit up in gimp and save as a jpg?
>>144505140
That reminds me, I forgot to post one more important guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=469450926
_S are spectral maps, they affect lighting.
What you want are _D maps. Also, save as .tga, otherwise the SDK will not recognize it as a texture file.
>51%
>>144505307
Thanks, diving in it now
Does the mr foster suit pack drop or is it only buyable
>>144507926
Pretty sure all the cosmetics found in the store are store exclusive.
The only exception I know of is the Precious Custodian Helmet. Since it's Precious it can only be found in crates, but not through random drops.
>>144508059
Excuse me, just as I sent that post I realized my mistake. Since you can now buy a handful of "normal" skins and cosmetics in the store, let me revise that statement:
All CHARACTER COSTUMES and their associated hats are store exclusive unless stated otherwise, like with the Precious Custodian Helmet.
>7 Days and 18 Hours until E3
It's just flying past gents.
>>144485840
Favorite pistol right here.
>the swat guy with a riot shield and a five-seven
>hnnng
I think zed legs have a special HP like the head. I've lost count of how many scrakes i killed by cutting their legs with the med AR when it hadn't taken that much damage over all. Seems like it takes like 10 stumbles and then just plain loses the leg.
>>144509164
They don't. Legs have a separate stumble value, but not an HP value.
Only the head has a lower HP value than the body.
>>144509269
weird, still. last game as medic i killed 12 scrakes just by stumbling them in kite
>>144509538
Either you're playing on a low difficulty or teammates are doing the majority of the damage to the Scrake and you just finish it off.
>>144486123
PLEASE COME HOME
>>144508547
What are you doing here, marisa?
>>144486123
Stop ctrl+f ing your name and let me fantasize about your feet in peace
Suicidal is way too easy jesus christ. Not to mention pubbies stunning every big guy with the xbow on top of it.
>>144513879
>Suicidal is way too easy jesus christ.
Now consider the fact that Tripwire balances and playtests using only Normal and Hard.
>>144330542
>>144331821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZWcMXv2NQk
>bored of playing KF1
>decided to not buy KF2
>a friend gifted me KF2 at last xmas
>thinking about giving it a try
>read WWAUT
>realize game meta is just going closer to CoD
Well... It seems there's a reason why both KF1 and KF2 have empty Hell on Earth servers. Everyone must've feel like me.
>>144356319
I'm pretty much disappointed in the design. Sharp should put out stable damage spikes and the only thing he ever should be worry about is his reload times to spike up damage better and controlling the recoil to keep it accurate. TWI fucked it up, now it's a GS+zerk clone and you're in for another clone of CoD shooter with zombehs. Those unimaginary fuckwits...
>>144367370
You forgot about "Last 5 ZED auto enrage" before ROTZ. That also caused KF2 to toss at a brickwall.
>>144369502
I'm always saying they introduced MT because they're at the brink of getting bankrupt cuz they really suck at managing their resources. EA done right! None of the EA games I know had MT before. If they were to stay at the path they have chosen instead of wasting dough on non-existent graphic technologies none of this bullshit would happen.
>>144516224
>I'm always saying they introduced MT because they're at the brink of getting bankrupt cuz they really suck at managing their resources.
KF2 development until the end of early access is already completely funded, by other game sales.
KF2 MTs will fund KF2 updates after the end of early access.
KF2 game sales will fund their next game.
or that's what yosh claims, anyways
>>144516760
>or that's what yosh claims, anyways
That's where you lost me. Still, introducing MT at EA points to two possibilities, and both are worse than the other.
1. You have no friggin' idea about what you are doing and aimless. Had no chance to do content but since you're so cocky at your job you had MT plans when everything settled. When fans are already raging about updates and you had nothing you threw them MT update in EA then ran away.
2. Alternatively, they spent so much money on irrelevant bullshit (including a vacation on a cruise ship and FLeX technology) so much that they realized their goal does not match their expenses.
These are the guys who once said they almost went bankrupt once when they were working on RS. I imagine going between their new RS:Vietnam game and KF2 they started to run dry.
I WISH
THAT I COULD TURN BACK TIME
>>144517802
'CAUSE NOW THE GUILT IS ALL MINE
>>144518000
CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT
THE TRUST FROM THOSE YOU LOVE
>>144518235
I KNOW
WE CAN'T FORGET THE PAST
>>144518724
YOU CAN'T FORGET LOVE AND PRIDE
BECAUSE OF THAT
IT'S KILLING ME INSIDE
I want to FUCK xenos
haven't played original KF in a long time.
is/was interested in KF2 but it's still WIP... so, I've looking through the latest update
I guess we can confirm Tripwire has become greedy like Overkill (Payday 2)?
>>144519908
shut up white bitch
>>144519296
HE'S MINE
>>144520204
ayy
Who wants to play some KF1?
>>144523201
give the IP in the group?
>one in the pipe!
What did he mean by this?
no es page 10
>>144519296
Xenos is for giving headpats
Scar mag costs 28$ or 1.4/bullet
AK12 mag costs 30$ or 1.0/bullet
SA80 mag costs 24$ or 0.8/bullet
AR15 mag costs 14$ or 0.7/bullet
reward for Fp is 180$
Scar needs 52 shots to decap Fp or 72.80$
AK12 needs 73 shots to decap Fp or 73.00$
SA80 need 110 shots to decap Fp or 88.00$
AR15 need 131 shots to decap Fp or 91.70$
reward for Scrake is 68$
Scar needs 24 shots to decap Scrake or 33.60$
AK12 needs 35 shots to decap Scrake or 35.00$
SA80 needs 48 shots to decap Scrake or 38.40$
AR15 needs 60 shots to decap Scrake or 42.00$
reward for Siren is 23$
Scar needs 4 shots to decap Siren or 5.60$
AK12 needs 5 shots to decap Siren or 5.00$
SA80 need 11 shots to decap Siren or 8.80$
AR15 need 14 shots to decap Siren or 9.80$
reward for Husk is 15$
Scar needs 3 shots to decap Husk or 4.20$
AK12 needs 5 shots to decap Husk or 5.00$
SA80 needs 7 shots to decap Husk or 5.60$
AR15 needs 8 shots to decap Husk or 5.60$
reward for Bloat is 15$
Scar needs 1 shots to decap Bloat or 1.40$
AK12 needs 2 shots to decap Bloat or 2.00$
SA80 needs 3 shots to decap Bloat or 2.40$
AR15 needs 3 shots to decap Bloat or 2.10$
everything else is 1 shot decap from all mando weapons so AR15 wins there.
My point is... i have no point.
Scar for Fp, SC, Sirens, Husks and Bloats
AR15 for everything else, or bullpup for 45 shots in row. AK12 seems like waste of money and it's recoil sucks cocks. Ok, 0.60$ cheaper siren kills.
>inb4 yeah like u can always land those headshots
>>144530384
this is for 6 player HoE
>>144530384
>>144530518
The extra 5% the new Hollow point perk has will probably save a bullet or 2 in the new update.
Really wish the AR15 had auto fire instead of a shitty burst fire.
TWI are always talking about "different playstyles" so if they brought back the Bullpup's old 405 ammo count, it would encourage people to pick it up for it's high ammo capacity, overall cheapness, and low recoil over the AK12's higher damage/recoil and costing double the price.
Money usually isn't an issue and the Hollow point perk also has 50% less recoil so it would make the AK12 especially in burst fire.
>>144531523
*AK12 more bearable especially*
>>144508547
>.22 mag meme pistol
>inb4 MUH WOUND VECTORS
>>144502552
>>Zwei is useless?
>Yep.
It's not that much worse than the pulv, if anything it'll be better during the SS patch because of how 'Butcher'ed new zerk will be.
That Ana.. She think she slick..
wen u bout to boi tha screk rite up
REQUEST ÐOSH
>>144531523
>Scar needs 24 shots to decap Scrake or 33.60$
And it need 83 body/leg/arm shots to kill it. That's 116$. That's more then the reward. Aim for the head people.
came here to say the guy in the OP is not welding
ok bye
If I see a commando and support attempting to decap a scrake, should I bother helping out with a microwave gun? The people I were playing with could sometimes pull it off, but about half the time it ended up with everyone having to focus it down.
>>144540960
Make the cuckmandos life more difficult for not doing his job and wasting time on big guys.
>>144540960
You're a firebug so you do trash and trash only. Don't forget your place.
I want to slap healsluts big butte
>>144547037
You're going to have to pay for it m9
>>144540960
>decap
>microwave gun
>helping
no
the only part of the microwave gun firing that can hurt a zed's head health is the very end of the primary attack, and it's so shit that bothering with headshots is a waste for even bloats, usually
clear the trash around the decappers so they can focus, instead of distracting them with zappy effects all over their target so they can't
if they completely dick it up and aren't bothering going for the head anymore, that's the sloppy job you're good at helping with
>download EIGHT (8) GIGABYTES (GB) worth of updates
>aww yeah let's see what's new
>let's see what's new
>what's new...
>let's see...
>one new map
??????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>144548138
There's a new (but dead already) VS mode. The player zeds were copy&paste&edited off the other zeds, so I guess the filesize is mostly downloading second copies of animation files.
>>144548701
Bravo
Someone said that martial art and SWAT perk weren't a sure thing anymore. Is that true?
SS fucking when? been like ages since the last update
>new and improved zerker
wasn't he OP already?
>>144549997
At least not before release.
>>144549997
Not exactly. The only info shared about them is that they are currently on the backburner so other content can be finished, and nothing about them is set in stone at this point because they are still exploring options on how to implement them.
Outlook ain't good, obviously.
>>144550645
>improved
nah
you choose between less health than before, or movement speed like before, can't have both
>>144551248
I'll pick the health!
>>144526443
The next rocket is in the launch tube.
>>144540960
>Be Gunslinger
>Going for Scrake decap
>Firebug runs to me and starts spamming MVG alt-fire
>Scrake is teleporting left and right, can't land any headshots and getting bitchslapped
>Try to run away to heal
>Firebug push the Scrake to me and I die
Thanks, but no, I don't need "help"
>>144553383
but he shoots four rockets at a time now
>>144555136
He doesn't in the superior game.
>Commando with AK can kill a Gorefast with one headshot dropping him dead right away
>During zed time one shot from AK pops its head, but the body is still moving waiting to bleed out
>It takes one SCAR headshot outside zedtime to pop Bloat's head
>During zedtime it takes two shots
>>144555345
Funny, tested it now, and it seems when using Rapid Fire there is falloff damage.
Headshot outside zedtime does 40 damage
Headshot in zedtime near a Bloat does 40 damage
Headshot in zedtime in some distance does 35 damage
The damage when using Professional instead Rapid Fire doesn't change with distance, so Rapid Fire decreases your damage when you're few meters away from the target.
I just can't comprehend the spaghetti behind this
>>144555282
>the superior game
>>144557146
For some other testing
Shooting a Scrake with a SCAR does 80 damage outside zedtime
Shooting a Scrake with a SCAR does 82 in zedtime in close range
Shooting a Scrake with a SCAR does 71 in zedtime in some distance from the target
This is the distance when the damage falloff starts
>>144555345
>>It takes one nonheadshot AR15 shot outside zedtime to kill a crawler without headshot
>>During zedtime it takes two
Looks like they're just going to nerf zerk so Martial Autist can pretend like he has a niche.
>>144539947
INSULT PLAYER
>>144549997
That is absolute nonsense.
There is no evidence to suggest that MA & SWAT have been cancelled.
However, there is growing evidence to suggest that their release has been deferred to a post-launch date.
It is likely that TW will finish EA with SS, and leave MA & SWAT for later, unfortunately.
Basically, someone heard that there was a delay, and decided to tell everyone that there was a cancellation. In other words, someone was talking a load of old shit.
>>144561215
Reported for bullying
>>144563437
wtf i just pressed the button in game fuck off
>>144508547
Nice gun, does it come in 9mm?
>>144563946
>2011
>9mm
>>144557146
>The damage when using Professional instead Rapid Fire doesn't change with distance
It does, you have to be even further away.
The fact that that there's falloff only in zed time makes no sense.
Where can i see the video of the Tripwire guy playing Killing Floor 2 and failing hard?
>>144568395
>>144564558
>The fact that that there's falloff only in zed time makes no sense.
especially since these are day-one bugs that have been here the entire time, during most of which, zed time bullets went at a snail's pace, towards sideways-sprinting and somersaulting zeds, so distant shots in zed time were already plenty of challenge
>>144568395
>>144569454
Seriously, if they like their own updates I fucking dare them to stream their gameplay ON EVERY DIFFICULTY to proove it works
>>144569454
ty, full video can't be found, right?
>>144570146
they're the first to admit that they suck at playing their games compared to the audience that HoE is intended for
>>144569454
>dying on normal
>>144570437
Not that I know of, I only made the webm.
What he talks about is a bunch of speculation, the only thing he talked about that was confirmed was them working on SS, female character, and new map (prison).
It's terrible trying to watch him talk and play, I guess Yoshiro stopped them from uploading the whole thing to their YT channel in fear of him getting ridiculed some more.
>>144570607
I mean they need to proove that game is playable (even on HoE), if not, we can refund, right?
>>144571103
On his own fire too, I think
Its like he survived the FP beating, but died to his own weapon
>>144571370
the name of suicidal implies no chance of survival, hoe is the difficulty above that
they would be free to make it literally impossible if they wanted
(and we'd be free to bitch about it in most places)
>>144569454
In retrospect, it was fucking dumb to have the person presenting upcoming content also be demoing the game at the same time. They could have easily had someone else in the room play while Yoshiro rattled off bullshit the entire time.
>>144571802
but game still implies you should win it, ofc its should be fucking hard, but its PvE, its same shit as MvM from tf2 all over again
>>144571370
>>144572006
which of the official maps can you not win on HoE? With a full team some maps can be bloody difficult, but you can always win.
>>144572449
all of them because he's totally the best player and hoe is totally impossible and anyone with those achievements totally cheated
>>144572682
I imagine most people zerkwalled those HoE achievements, tough.
>>144489058
Commando trying to solo a FP should be a last resort.
You make it sound so simple when you can only miss 9 shots out of 2 large mags.
When next update you won't even have large mags without giving up the extra damage or tac reload.
Should leave soloing FPs to gunslingers and demos.
>>144575297
>Crosshairs
>>144575597
>Playing KF2
>>144575297
>crosshair
>>144575917
Go nuke sneks or something filthy beastkin.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq7M9ehHNBQ
>>144577023
Yeah, I've seen this. Must be fun when you play above normal and run out of ammo mid-wave after killing so much :^)
>>144575917
Hey bitch.
Oh
My
God
50%
Fifty Percent
Let That Sink In
>>144577023
That fucking music put me in a bad mood, it's fucking awful.
>>144577023
>doesn't even switch to semi auto
fucking noobs man
>>144577023
Ah, so THAT's who TWI added burst mode to the AR15 for.
>>144577881
Oh no, we need to give our favourite company TW some positive reviews or else they might sink under.
>>144578453
You know honestly, I was hoping that they'd be able to keep it at a minimum of 51% before E3, but at this rate they'll easily be in the 40s by the E3 presentation.
Oh man. Gibson must curse Valve for introducing the Recent Review system.
>>144577023
you're telling me that some people are willing to pay a monthly subscription to hack in a pve game that averages around 900 players at a time and where 90% of the servers on normal difficulty and almost every HoE server is kf2superperktraining
>>144577931
>implying Disturbed doesn't fit right in with KF2's bands.
>>144581090
>Not having the entire soundtrack switched out already with cute songs
>>144581313
this desu
>>144581313
>tfw zYnthetic's new stuff was meh so you just replaced his whole soundtrack with Xzibit, DMX and Ludacris
Can't say I regret it to be honest.
Arriving to a Main Menu blasting PUSH MY NIGGA PUSH is a hell of a lot more fun than that boring shit that was playing on it before.
Need some viper in kf2 tbqh
>>144582637
GET A GRIP WHILE THE GETTIN IS GOOD
BEFORE THE GAME GETS 10% SKILL
AND 90% HOLLYWOOD
pls dont die
not until i finish this
pls
>>144584124
Finish what?
>>144584225
my map, it's called "KF-Nuked". you can get it on the workshop now but i'm working on updating it with tons of improvements to visuals/gameplay
its gonna be great you gonna love it
>>144584702
you should replace the in-gmae music with this on wave 7/7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcunREYzNY
Awoo for me.
>>144584702
Can you map makers do anything about your custom sounds completely ignoring the game audio settings?
>Check notes
>Those zerker changes
Well I haven't played in months, now I have even less reason.
Thanks Tripwire!
>>144584702
>Huh that map kinda looks like Nuked
>my map, it's called "KF-Nuked"
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa
Wait a minute.
YOU are the Nuked guy?
Man, I have played your map it was sick!
Just the other day I did a HOE game on it with Berke and Fauxy it was good shit.
Man I heard about TW_Faggot_Employee_#24 fucking up your selection on the contest.
Seriously though, if they hadn't been holding their dicks instead of doing their job you would've had it.
>>144584842
>>144585065
unfortunately both of those things are impossible
>>144585207
hey thanks m8
>>144585602
You can't change bus volumes and set events in the .bnk?
>>144585693
i guess so if you create your own custom bnk, or duplicate an existing one
that is all way beyond me, though
>>144231398
But... he's not welding.
>>144586435
making the file shouldn't be hard- the hard part would be cooking a new "Ambient".bnk to the level, like the stock TWI maps have it.
However, if you ever get to the point where that's an option, I don't mind scripting the events out in a new .bnk.
>check for servers with open spots
>see 5/6
>actually a full game with 1 specator
>specator counts as negative player
wat
>>144589851
T R I P W I R E
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Goodnight /kfg/
FUCK
postzeds
>>144600970here
What are some unorthodox camping spots that haven't been overused on everymap?
Besides Outpost, every maps seems to only have 2 good spots that people gravitate to and it seems to get stale really fast.
>>144601104
most maps have 3 good spots imo
ive wanted to try the train area on paris, is that shit if anyone has tried?
>>144602987
Good for Patty, not sure about anything else. You got 3 doors zeds can funnel out of on one side by trains, and the one door on the other side.
That's 4 points to defend, heaven forbid there's a vent, I wouldn't know, I don't spend much time there.
it's impressive how they've fucked up so completely when KF1 was basically had all the right ideas and just need a new coat of paint and some small mechanic changes
>>144602987
You mean the Metro tunnel with the pod where the trains are docked?
It's an OK spot but only if everyone is committed to holding their ground. If your team are the kind who prefer to shuffle backward and leave it to someone else when things get hard, then don't waste your time.
It is an enclosed underground area where the only ways out are zed filled corridors. If the team routs and loses their ground, they probably wipe.
>>144607781
You need to remember that KF1 came pretty much straight out of the KF mod. Most of the gameplay and dynamics had already been done for them, all they really did was take a solid mod and polish it a little into a game.
You can easily tell by the state of KF2 that they were not responsible for what was best about KF1. They just inherited it.
So how am I supposed to do anything but zerkwall with these perk changes
Removing passive movespeed just means I'm going to park my ass and zerkwall and never do anything else
>>144608324
You aren't.
Tripwire hates zerkwalling so much they want to make anything BUT zerkwalling a fool's errand.
Can I join one of the EU servers from the OP if I'm not too skilled? I've got level 25 as a medic, but that's just due to playing a lot, and the steam guide page from the OP goes really in depth, gives some progamer advice, which seems a tad beyond me, should I stick to pubs?
>>144608592
Nah mang come on in. /kfg/ doesn't mind if you aren't that great, as long as you make an effort and try to pull your weight.
But be warned. We have absolutely zero patience for sperglord retards. If you are going to be Higgus 2.0 you will not last long.
>>144609408
I'll do my best not to become a higgus, thank you!
>>144601104
She's so fleshy.
>>144610618
Oh, btw just for context, Higgus is the following.
Imagine a player who looks good on paper but plays like shit in practice.
Imagine a player who plays the match like a careless lazy shit but then expects everyone else to pick up his slack.
Imagine a player who asks for dosh EVERY wave and then still complains that he isn't getting enough money.
Imagine a player who dies on every late wave and spends the rest of the time bitching about the players who are still alive.
Imagine a player who is the first to die on the boss wave and furiously denounces everyone on the chat.
Imagine a player who, I am dead serious, tries to kickvote the last man left alive on the boss' final health bar because, I AM DEAD SERIOUS, he wants to finish the match so that he can go browse /r9k/.
Imagine that after word of that match reaches the General and he gets kicked out and banned, you find out that this player has a history of getting kicked out of many previous Generals.
All of that actually happened. All of that is Higgus.
>>144610618
kfg always enjoys new players, just try to play to a good extent and dont be a fuckwit, everyone is generally pretty nice as long as you aren't an idiot.
Also please don't get offended if someone calls you out on a mistake, just make some room to improve.
There's only one rule, dont be an idiot, that's it basically.
>>144612197
Goodness me, he does sound like a handful! I can definitely avoid complaining, that I am not too bad at, thank you for the advice, I'll jump in this afternoon, can't wait!
we kill what we love just by touching it
>>144612481
Don't give up yet Mister.
E3 is our one last chance to see something good again.
I know that betting the future of KF2 on Crapwire don't sit right, but if I was banking everything on that I'd be quit already. We stayed tuned this far by leaning on eachother.
>>144612197
The only people that DESERVE dosh are people that joined late or the medic to get his med AR.
Everyone else needs to earn it like a man.
Death should be a learning experience not a reason to complain.
There's always a good reason why someone died.Unless it's sirens around corners, they need to fuck off from being able to teleport.
>>144362694
>RIPwire
>>144329110
we need to replace with cant-wake-up skeleton chair with the same animations
>>144366707
steak gun for zerk when
>>144601104
but tits are fat
>>144577023
>>144577931
>Ov3rL0aD3
>WOW!! Awesome! Music and rage are just epic! The music matches the Killing Floor gamplay and i love it :D! Keep up the good work :* (NO HOMO)! :D
Totally not a homo.
>>144577023
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk_Fgq8iJGc
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spTUlsLva3w
>>144612791
I always give my extra dosh to the demo or support after the medic has his AR. Killing floor is a team effort and the team is the most efficient when everyone has his full loadout ready.
>>144612481
>This year it'll be 9 years since Half Life 2 E2
>I still don't have Half Life 3
I miss you Gordon.
>>144577881
TW are the ones who need that to sink in.
>>144608592
>implying there are skilled players in KFG servers
>implying KFG doesn't wipe in 95% of games
>implying skill exists
You have 1 new item in your inventory!
Tactical Horzine Encrypted USB
Requires a Tactical Horzine Blueprint Key to open.
Your options are:
a) leave it to rot in your inventory
b) sell it for 1 cent and give steam/TW it's 2 cents
c) spend 2.75$ for a 99.99% chance to get a 6 cent headband
d) go to Paris and scream "fuck you tripwire!" form the top of the Eiffel tower.
>>144617607
a, like the other 30 fucking crates I have.
>>144617607
A. Maybe if I ignore it it will go away.
>>144615237
How can I make better use of the medic AR? I always have trouble with its insane recoil and end up letting off not much mote than short bursts of hipfire
>>144618426
As a medic or as an offperk?
>>144618426
Toggle crouch and ADS, it lowers recoil/spread.
Otherwise try adjusting your mouse settings from the link in the OP.
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1369921&postcount=9
>>144617607
Rot for a few years, then check prices again. Later on they might make new drops that are common, and the old common drops become rare and valuable again. csgo's first case is 7 bucks now.
if dubs naked banana guy is your new background check em
>>144585065
>Custom sounds ignoring the game audio settings
I'm going to presume you're talking about music added to the map. Any custom effects regardless of what they are are sound nodes placed in 3D space. This means that they are seen as game volume. So if there's a music track you hate playing from a custom map you'll need to turn down sound effect audio, not music audio.
Nep nep?
>>144622195
Me second from the left.
>>144622720
WESTLONDON
>>144622720
Congratulations, you're not a pedo. Now go on and enjoy your life free of sexual deviancy.
>>144623242
>free of sexual deviancyIronically, I'm bisexual with an interest in effeminate teenage boys.
>>144623720I too, would bang Xenos and Kilo
>>144584124
>>144584702
you're the guy behind this ?
Your map is sick, the explosions add a lot to the atmosphere and it's fun as hell to play in this map.
>alarm rings
>detonation
>immersion reach 200% as dust fills the map.
Only shame is how early wave zed time ruins its groove.
I'll really look forward your upgrade of it
>>144623895God I want to fuck Xenos so hard
>>144625757We all do.
>>144608592
Is /kfg/ even playing on EU servers? I thought it was all NA with some yuros joining in who are not bothered by 200 ping.
>>144628691
As a yuropeons, i do play on EU servers, even on NAs i rarely have that much ping
>>144608592
Why are you even asking? Do you expect an answer like "gtfo from my pro server you are ruining our fun white bitch git gud oh btw we are banning you from everywhere"?
Join the steam group and then the chat dummy.
>>144628691
Having checked, I can say that the no password server has nobody on it, and sadly I can't seem to be able to join any other one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfyNnUgK8qE
>>144630196
This
Also when you join chat, bully Xenos
>>144630327
server owner here. It's been dead as fuck since conception, we had 2 or 3 games on it when then nothing ever.
I'm pretty sure it's not showing up in the master server list so pubbies don't even touch it.
If you want to play you'll have to ask about it in the thread because I'm not going to idle in it for 6 hours in the off chance someone's interested.
Do you guys know of a way to programmatically get KF2 server informations via IP? Name and playercount, I could not google it.
>>144632349
And just remember, when we start ERPing and talking about your dick it's just for lols. Don't take it too seriously and join the fun.
>>144630196
/kfg/ has it's own steam group?
>>144636564
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/kf2vg
>>144638054
>over 700 in the group
>rarely get over 100 people in these generals
>averages at about 1.1k playing at once on a good day, most of which are normal/hard
Its kind of sad to think about really
>>144577023
>cheating
>in a coop game
>>144643370
i don't even see how it is enjoyable
that shit just looks like it'd make me nauseous
>>144643370
b-but easy cheevos..
what is really the role of a support?
ammo box?
damage on scrakes/fleshpounds?
trash?
can think of a well defined role
>>144644921
Big guys
>>144644921
to support the team emotionally
>>144644921
Ammo box and then to die first when shit goes tits up and he tries to kite the cocaine addicts.
>>144645621
>die first
No, thats the demos job because he's worst at kiting
He even has an ability that lets him sacrifice himself and buy your team a few seconds
>tfw no ana gf
Ok, let's make the perfect team. 6 people, HoE, let's say Outpost camping near trucks.
So... Commando watching the other side with Bullpop, Scar and... katana?
On main side, Medic behind with medic AR healing the shit out of everyone. Well Armour. Using nades in the doors after big guys come out.
Another commando taking out trash on this side.
2 gunslingers and a demo helping said mando and waiting for the big guys?
And for the boss 1 commando (for patty), 1 zerk (for Hans), 1 medic and 3 gunslingers?
>>144651704
2 medics with ARs
3 beserkers with pulverizers
1 demo with RPG that only fires in zed time
in boss wave demo switches to medzerker
>>144651704
Why Commando when you can go Firebug?
>>144651704
2 cuckmandos with Bull and AR15 taking on just the trash and thus saving money. 2 gunslingers for bloats, husks, sirens and SC/FP. 1 medic for obvious reasons. And 1........ support? demo? zerk? doesn't matter.
>>144651964
No screen shaking and annoying visuals distracting the aim of gunslingers?
>>144651704
6 people with brains.
Seriously there is no one ultimate team, it's how good people are with given perks. The only need is one medic, other than that you can go with whatever you want. You don't need a Zerker in the team. You don't need a Firebug in the team. Just don't go overboard with the same perk for everyone and trying 5 demos.
>>144652330
Faster killing, Shrapnel, no zed will make through and can help with guys (while also killing all the trash around it) if shit hits the fan.
>>144652708
I would love to try 6 demos. And then 6 supports. And 6 gunslingers etc. Just to see how far each perk team would get. Ok, maybe 5 same perks and 1 medic.
So it's... 20-70min a game times 7 games... Is anyone up for this?
>>144653031
Also would like to see if a firebug would actually outperform commando in killing trash. Including costs.
Also commando gives to the team (seeing stalkers), but firebug takes away (visibility).
I have played both a lot, and firebug is more fun, but commando is nowhere near as bad as people say and can be quite fun to play as well.
>>144653450
Firebug can be useful, but fun? I hardly played it after reaching level 25.
>>144653773
Firebugs just a case of mindless fun, shoot hot flames at groups and watch the fireworks benefit the team.
>>144653450
I did that, it mostly ended in failure except full zerk team with 1 medic this was fucking baller everthing died instantly.
I want to cum inside of cute little xenos so badly
Dont let it die
>>144574052
I hope so
Because when the next patch drops is RIP zerker again.
Good fucking luck with 2xFP 2xSC close spawns mid wave
>>144657381all these very threads are decicated to this
>>144660654
I'm going to make xenos my little girl
Fuck they gonna nerf Zerk again
also Support needs A REAL FUCKIN BUFF YOU FUCKING HACK AT TRIP. DAFUQ YALL NIGGAZ DOING AT THE HEADQUARTER.
I think Support needs more HP and AMMO. He engaged in close to medium combat but he does not have movespeed bonus like Zerk or Gunslinger. Just give him like bonus 100 hp and shit tons of ammo cuz right now you cannot do shit
>>144661351
Give him more firepower like before, i'd be cool with having medium-low amount of shots if they actually had some more kick to them so you could be there to help sort out big guys, especially when you're near the front of the fight with no movement speed or shit like firebugs heatwave to get you out of a sticky situation.
>>144661351
>bonus 100 hp
I would be content with a passive weight carry bonus and the headshot damage dropoff removed.
I want to buy Roxy dinner and then sexually assault her
>>144662993
What's the headshot damage dropoff?
>>144664372
Who's Roxy?
>>144664463
Basically: Shotguns have the 4m falloff in damage, but its applied to a big zeds head, standard scrakes and fleshpounds so you do 50% less damage. BUT, they take full damage if you shoot them in the body, falloff isn't applied there.
On stuff like trash its not applied though, still headshotting them from 6m away does full work.
>>144664372
>her
Nice meme
Fuck off.
>>144664779
Today when I found out that the game was still officially in early access I couldn't believe it, but since then I've been learning things like this and it's all making more and more sense now, thank you
Testing how much Microwave ammo Firebug needs to take down a 6p HoE fleshpound.
body held down 355
body long taps 230
body short taps 185
body very short taps 355
near the feet held down 300
near the feet long taps 220
near the feet short taps 135
near the feet very short taps 300
The taps can actually be very short, but not instantly repeated. Tap for a very short time, but wait a tiny bit (for the microwave/splash damage visual effects to disappear) before taping again. My record was 115 ammo used, I'm pretty sure you can do it with less than that.
oh, and alt fire 360, the minimum you could do it with is 330 ammo units (33 shots).
>6 Days and 6 Hours until E3
It's just flying past gents.
>>144671029
>Liru is going to come out before this game leaves EA
>>144664779
>>144662993
Sorry guys, I can not see this DMG falloff/drop-off you anons speak of.
Other than most pellets missing the target from far away, but that's just the spread.
AA12 vs FP
Shooting from close-up = each pellet does 18 on head, 17 body and legs, 9 for arms/grinders. Doesn't change no matter how far away i am.
Same for SC - 37 head, 34 body legs and left arm, 17 right arm/chainsaw, doesn't change no matter the distance.
Same for trash zeds
Same for M4 (same DMG btw)
Same for Boomstick (same DMG as well)
SG 500 is the same, but lower DMG 30 head, 27 else, 14 chainsaw DOES NOT CHANGE NO MATTER HOW BIG THE DISTANCE IS
Excuse me for yelling.
>>144671805
i thought the damage falloff was on the body, not the head
>>144672821
No DMG falloff on body, didn't find any. None on the head or anywhere else.
>>144671805
heads recieve less dmg at a distance greater then 4m. If the dmg is high enough to blow of the head in 1 hit, fall-off is not applied.
Grab yourself a scrake, use the no spread command and shoot one point blank to the face and another one from +5m range and you'll notice you need more shots to decap.
With the natural spread this may not be an issue at long ranges since you'd do fuck all dmg anyway, but 5-6m ingame is still a decently close distance to nail almost all your pellets to a zeds head, gimping your damage noticably.
The recent ammo pool increase makes the "wasted" dmg hurt less in your overall efficiency, it is still a stupid mechanic that shouldn't be in the first place.
>>144671805
This has been known for at least 6 months. It has nothing to do with the pellet spread.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GDpg2mN1l_86U_RaDug0glFx8cZCuErwxZLiBKl9SyY/htmlview#
Scroll down to Weapons - Damage reduction vs hitzones. Also check the weapons tab for the shotguns, read the notes at the bottom of each entry.
>>144671805
This is what is actually happening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSdGdMPlodo
It says it's doing the same damage, but it's not doing all GoreHealth damage to the the head as if you were right up in it's face.
>>144671805
>>144674763
So in this I did 238 damage to both of these 6p HP Scrakes (no Tenacity) with the AA12 and NoRecoil.
The one I shot at point blank, ZedScrake_0 has 1637 head "GoreHealth"
The one I shot from a distance, ZedScrake_1 has 1756 head "GoreHealth"
That's 119 damage difference, half of 238.
So it still does full dmg to overall health, just not to the head specific health. So it only matters for decaps.
>>144676483
Yes, so shotguns are completely neutered at non-point blank ranges.
>>144676483
>>144676861
What a fucking clusterfuck, why am I not surprised
>>144676861
Is it a bug/known issue or is it intended to be that way?
>>144681324
It could be tripwire's way of forcing people to go for body shots, or something they've completely ignored and see it as a non-issue.
All the pellets won't hit the head from range in the first place, so why would they half the damage past 4m is the real question.
>>144245306
Guy must be dizzy as fuck
>>144683432
>Build hundreds of dummy missile turrets to distract the approaching enemy
>Let them all be destroyed to buy you time
>Think nothing of them
>Later find out that there was a human being inside each of those turrets
Oh God.
I knew not what I did.
Is the sniper out yet?
>>144686467
>sniperThey're announcing its release date at E3 in a week
>>144686467
The release date will be announced at E3 in about a week.
Speculation, as per the month's end, is as follows:
>June
Possible, but very unlikely.
>July
Possible, the likely month of release. However, if so, will probably only be at the very end of the month or even delayed until the start of August.
>August
Likely, but hopefully not so late as that.
>September onward
Unlikely, extremely late and so highly undesirable.
>>144689120
>September
Completely broken OP Sharpshooter released
>October
Sharp nerfed useless
>January
Fixed.
>>144689120
>September onward
>extremely late and so highly undesirable.
which is exactly why they will release it in september
cause fuck our playerbase is the motto
>>144689442
>>January 2019
Fixed.
>>144689120
>June
Sharpshooter release date announced
>July
Sharpshooter & weapons revealed to be DLC
>September
Sharpshooter DLC released
>January
OP Sharpshooter nerfed to the ground after Steam Christmas Sale
PS4 release = sharpshooter release
>>144693806
I'm OK with that, on the condition that the release date for SS is July at the latest.Which I know it won't be.
I made a video about the perks and how fun they are/aren'tI legit worked hard on it though so I appreciate your feedback, pls be gentle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcu8_vnoic8I wish my voice was deeper
>>144699878
The sound of your voice does not sound good in that intro, Mister, it gets better later on and you're kinda funny though so I like it.
I say kinda because your humor is hit and miss.
Is that Transistor music at 2:30 at 6:50? I fucking love Transistor. You're an OK guy to me.
>Me at 4:12
>was running on a shitty laptop
>kf2 was announced
>immediately start shopping around
>get brand new fukken computer to play kf2
>get sidetracked by other games while waiting for it to leave early access
>tfw it's still fucking unfinished and has shitty pvp
Glad I have a million other fucking things to keep me preoccupied if/until the game is finished.
>>144702147that's the joke at the start
I understand that, totally. I tried to be a mix of Demo D+ and Phantomstrider. It was my 2nd time reading off a script so my execution needs improvement.
Yeah, it is. I fucking love Supergiant.
Thanks, I appreciate your criticism.
>>144699878
your voice is fine, id listen to it in the background while i browse or something
>>144703628
agree with >>144702147 though, some of the humor and definitely hit and miss. also love some of the music choices
>>144702630
>kf2 was announced
>i bought it instantly on EA
>already started to love it, even it's flaws
>fun times and memes with /kfg/
>eventually the big jump start that was KF2's release started to dimmish.
>mfw this is all the major content we've gotten
I don't blame anyone for leaving for other games.
I only complain about KF2 and it's content because I care about the game.
I've sunk more time in this than I should have but not as much as some people.
>>144704750
I honestly wonder if Sharpshooter would be released right now if they hadn't worked on the PvP at all or even dreamt of a stupid concept like that coming before the FUCKING MAIN CLASS PERKS.
>>144704750
I feel like one of the last men left in the abandoned fortress. Everyone else died or deserted long ago, now it's just me and the few that remain. Waiting for the end, good or bad.
no es page 10
>>144707906
Just let it happen irmao
>>144708090
we're close to the bump limit, this is likely the last thread before e3 too unless some sperg tries to keep one up
might as well finish it off
>>144708090
tropical white alberts is best alberts
>>144699878
Editing was grossly overused to the point of being cringe worthy. Your jokes were forced and fell flat. To top it off that is kind of a stupid subject to make a video onplus your opinions were shit.
Pretty average overall. Keep trying. Or rather don't try as hard next time with the over-editing.
>>144710825
Humor is subjective, but I recognize some hit harder then others. I love to edit, and stringing together clips for a small music section is my fetish. So that's not gonna go away.
I knew the list was stupid, but It was more of a test of the format used, and for most part, people like that aspect.
Thanks for the criticism.
>>144699878
I was in the midst of writing my thoughts and criticisms as I watched it but my browser decided to crash. I'm mostly agreeing with >>144710825.
Your humour was appreciated, but every joke overstayed its welcome. Everything not related to the actual video's content needed to be less than half as long as it was. There were a few too many anime reaction images for my tastes.
I disagreed with nearly every opinion you presented in the video. The actual quality of editing was superb though, it shows that you've got experience. The intro segments for each perk without any voiceover needed to be shorter, it felt like a waste of time since you're watching the same sort of thing while you talk about each perk.
I think you'll do a better job next time.
>decide to get drunk
>join normal match
>get kicked because have 4x the kills of the next player
>>144653450
>I would love to try 6 demos
>reworked demo with 6 nukes going off
would be pretty insane
>>144671592is that confirmed or are you a joking bastard?
>>144722327
https://twitter.com/myuRanRan/status/739754837395410945
JP version should be out in a few days.
>>144722567
oh boy
my body is ready
The past few days have been rather frustrating in a number of ways. I hope the next few days will be far less so.
I aim to become the very best at this game. I love it enough to play it every days for hours and it's dead enough for the competition to be tiny.
This is my chance to shine.
>>144725174
>Taking a PEE VEE EEE game this seriously
Well, I wish you the best of luck in your quest to reach the heights.
If I can go from floundering in HOE games as nothing more useful than a meatshield suicide unit for my /kfg/ brothers, to crushing grubs like old bus ticket stubs then there's hope for anyone really.
Just do the best you can, that's all anyone's really asking at the end of the day.
And watch out for nasty people.
In every game I play there's always at least one.
49%
>>144699878
noobed out a bit on firebug and medic
annoying, self conscious voice at the beginning, but it gets much better.
>>144711486
editing and music was top notch, keep it up
the crossbow troll was nice.
When the fuck is this game ACTUALLY coming out?
Early release was a mistake.
HEY
Someone link me to Intumesce's profile quickly, I'm busy atm.
>>144231398
Never most likely
Do not make a new thread.
>>144231398
It's been real.
I'm glad I didn't bother with kfg before recently, this place is a shithole at best, it would have sapped my enthusiasm in the early stage.
>>144733082
It's really not fair to judge /kfg/'s entire history based on these recent hard times.
This General is completely different compared to what it was in the first few months./kfg/ changes to reflect the state of the game.
We may as well end this ded thread with something a little different.
Here's what I like to listen to when I'm browsing ded /kfg/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI0BUr5ux-g
Also, we should really not make a new thread until
>This week's WWAUT, or
>The day of E3
>>144733292
The last few threads have been getting better I feel, I was alluding to the steam chat mostly. What a horrible, horrible place that is.
>>144734685
Why's that?
>>144734685
I only join when people are playing KF2, so I haven't been in there in a while.
>>144734948
so joke, such fun
>>144699878
>post a link to your YouTube channel in 4chan
>???
>pure PROFIT!!!
> 84 views sadface.jpg
Nice video btw, enjoyed the editing, keep making 'em.
>>144734786
Bunch of jackasses talking about anything but kf2 and jerking each other off because they don't have anything better to do. Also, I'm a weeb myself but I will never understand the obsession with generic moe anime girl steam avatar. I suppose it's just another way to feel like you belong to a group. It just gives off the vibe of a group of boring young adults that gather around to share ironic memes and feel superior about it, which would be fine by me if at least they played the fucking game.
It just fucking reeks in there if you're not part of it.
>>144739839
+1
More playing, less anime-clapclap-pedobear
>>144502552
>Their rage is still unparriable bullshit?
>Yes
FUCKING STOP THIS
Just because your parry doesn't stumble them back doesn't mean you should tell others to never parry. Knife parrying a fleshpound calms him down instantly and helps you avoid taking a ton of damage.
>>144739839
Agreed, but i'd rather have generic anime as a steam avatar than furry, mlp, or some shit outdated meme as one.
There isn't a lot of options to not look like an autist unless you're using a stock steam avatar from valve.
>>144740252
>the only alternative to anime avatar is furry, mlp, a meme or stock picture
Are you going to be ok?
pull the plug
>5 Days and 15 Hours until E3
It's just flying past gents.
>>144740490
Wanna read that post you quoted again?
Where did I say those were the only alternatives?
>>144741452
>not a lot of options to not look like an autist
I can think of 4 billion options on the top of my head, I don't get your point.
why can't your profile pic be just a paint drawing of yourself as a ZED, like normal people do.
>>144741828
Your dum and hes smart
wannu beat him up? ill help
>>144741828
>I can think of 4 billion options on the top of my head
>doesn't list any examples
In every life we have some trouble
But when you worry you make it double
Don't worry, Be happy
Your favourite character is dead
You still hear his lines in your head
Don't worry, Be happy
The new game lacks your favourite gun
Without it you just can't have fun
Don't worry, Be happy
You think all the new maps are lame
Can't remember your last Foundry game
Don't worry, Be happy
You had fun playing HOE you know
But that was oh so long ago
Don't worry, Be happy
The good old days will come back again
But until then it's UPDATE WHEN
Don't worry, Be happy
You used to talk to KF players here
But now it's some guy who loves Nepgear
Don't worry, Be happy
The update for SS is late
Still no GF to impregnate
Don't worry, Be happy
The End
>>144742916
>he actually needs examples
Sod off lad I don't have any more time to waste.
Time for a new thread, me thinks
>>144739839
Our main animemer is just xenos though
>>144743116
Your 'arguement' has less merit than mine.
Just because you have billions of options, doesn't mean they're all good or all shit.
And saying "the only alternative to" when it wasn't even stated in the post is just bait.
>>144743862
I can't help you when you make a post implying that it's tough to find an avatar better than animeme. Go read your post again.
There are billions of images that would do just fine and are not memes or anime or furry. You're just retarded.
>>144744764
>made it into anime (not moeshit)
Phew
>>144744578
>getting mad at opinion
>says there's "billions" of pictures but only compares it to the memes, anime, and furry pics I already brought up
wew
>>144745352
Really not subtle now.
>>144745524
Says the anon that couldn't even surpass name-calling to get his point across.
>>144745935
Fair enough but you were either trolling or retarded so I couldn't be arsed doing better.
>>144746340
It was a good enough post to garner a response.
I don't really care that much, just felt like shitposting.
>>144746340
>>144746591
Fellas please, we can shitpost in the new thread
>>144713573
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the editing.
It seems the humor is the biggest factor that needs improvement, but I will say this to defend myself: the topic for the video is fucking stupid. I honestly was just trying to do something I haven't seen done before, but clearly I could have choose a better topic. Like I said above (and in the comment section), the topic is irrelevant and I feel that now, after a goods night sleep, had I chosen a better topic, I could have not forced most of the humor.
I also want to defend the little "showcases" of each class by saying that the video was geared towards new players who had never heard of the game, hence my recommendation at the end to maybe buy it.
My next topic will be more thought out and the humor will flow more smoothly.I hopeI used to many anime reaction images cause I was binge watching demo d+ videos during the making of this I'm sorry
