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Ahhh /twg/… the eternal general
PROPER SPEARWALLS WHEN FUCK YOU CA FOR REMOVING IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>tfw most here wouldn't even remember the hot camel dick days
>>144044119
Why is the sun even there?
It stand literally no chance
posted this in last thread but it dead.
been reading in a few places that shields only block ranged damage and don't affect melee, is this actually true? is there proof of this somewhere lads?
>>144044348
The game has spear wall, in fact nearly all the spear units do it to counter charges
>>144044302
Kazuk-ha Kazukin! Ha!
>>144044348
I was really confused when I saw that all of my empire units had no special maneuvers like shield/spear walls etc
Like why
>>144044302
I'm tempted to download the mod that buffs slayers, god they are terrible.
>>144044373
I will always remember the hot camel dick.
>>144044382
melee defense is affected by armor.
So is this game really worth it? I've been in Munich for the past year and just got back and have no idea of its worth the money or not
>>144044382
http://totalwarwarhammer.gamepedia.com/Spearmen_%28Shields%29
> Shielded: Shields have a chance of blocking arrows, bolts, rifle shots and similar small arms fire - but only in a forward facing arc.
Any reason at all to get Master Necromancers over Vampire Lords?
>>144044382
The "perk" Shielded only affects ranged.
Units with shields typically have more armour though, which does affect melee.
>when you inherit a general who is terribly spec'd
;_;
>>144044541
it's worth it but the potential is even bigger. If this game gets a couple of more races and a bigger map it's going to be amazing.
Oh and nerfed fucking agents.
>>144044147
>All that deformed english really rings a bell.
That's how commoners speak around here, mate.
>>144044485
Its all automated now, assuming you put them into position correctly.
>>144044541Its the best TW game ever
>>144044647
>get general through confederation
>specced in utility tree out the ass
I now understand why the AI basically needs to cheat on higher difficulties. Their own retardation is shooting them in their own legs
>>144044485
Streamlining.
Can you teleport back from quest battles?
Mannfred has a quest battle at the very bottom of the map and I can't see how you ever fucking do it without dying of attrition on the way back
can we all agree underways are a fucking stupid mechanic?
>tfw you're now the annoyingly fast horde leading armies around on a merry chase
He who battles AI should look to it that he himself does not become the AI... when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
Really though, isn't anyone going to remove forced march? It's been a stupid or broken feature in every game its been in and the AI plays much better without it.
>>144044686
probably also the most accessible to get into
>>144044875
you automagically get sent back
Why are custom battles so fun? Don't let the trolls' health bars fool you, they all routed save for one unit that got lucky killing one of the necromancers
> Tomb Kings still not announced
>>144045009
This rattles my bones
>can't assassinate anyone in campaigns where I want to
>but I succeed when I go after Karl just for the sake of it
Oh for christ's sake
>>144044915
They make sense in that it lets dwarfs and goblins be really hard to attack (mountains being slow as fuck)
But it makes no sense because the only people who want to attack them are the other faction who uses underways and chaos who has nothing to protect
>>144045009
...but anon that's notLizardmen & Skaven
>>144045009
>>144044119
I wonder what a Total War: Westeros would look like. ASOIAF isn't exactly balanced in any way.
Is spell kill detected broken? I straight up wiped out a whole unit with magic but my leader ended the battle with two kills
I was vamps so I know nobody ranged got them
>>144045224
I don't think it'd really work, total war doesn't have the capacity for all the political maneuvering
>skaeling control half of Norsca
>2nd most powerful faction in the world
Norsca nerf when, they're legit more powerful than Archaon?
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vvOQVZw.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
You're at the club with your GF when this man comes up to you and tells you to SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS
what do?
>>144045406
Let him fuck my GF in exchange for him letting me get ridden by Deathclaw.
>>144045406
You summon theold Bretonnia.
THE EVERCHOSEN SHALL CRUSH THE INSOLENT NORSCAN TRIBES, AND THEN THE WORLD
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
LET THE WORLD BURN
>>144045587
>using marauders
>ever
"THIS WILL BE THEN OF KARL FRANZ'S CAMPAIGN" SAYS INCREASINGLY NERVOUS 'MAN' FOR SEVENTH TIME.
>>144045587
Skaeling getting chaos dogs is kinda horseshit, they're just tribesmen
I made this for you
Any good lets plays yet?
Im away from my computer but I need my fix.
>>144044651
>>144044990
>>144044686
well fuck it I just got TW:W for the potential of it all. Hope it's worth the money lads
>>144045201
Literally who?
>>144045661
>then
THE END*
What the fuck
>>144045656
>talking shit about marauders
>>144045752
There's loads up but you have to pick between total new players and memeing cheeselords
>>144045656
I'm not that far into the campaign yet I haven't gotten around to replacing them all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06643umEJZg
How does /twg/ spec Franz?
It's an unavoidable upgrade chain for mounts from warhorse to Deathclaw?
What upgrades from the non-combat chain are must haves?
I am not a clever man.
>>144045682
>wanting them to have even more axe throwers
nigga
>Slowly rolling over what's left of the Brettons
>They keep shitting out level 20+ heroes to assault my armies
FUCKING AI STOP CHEATING
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>144044541
Its good, it will be great
>>144045406
Tell him that this action lacks my consent ;_;
>>144044651
Bigger map as vamps is gonna be agony, as is it's impossible to spread corruption through anything other than adjacency
>>144045925
I use that mod that disables Agents and Heroes from taking hostile actions.
Still doesn't help their +20 to corruption ambient bonus bullshit though.
>>144045710I like it a lot.
>>144044559
well thanks anon, I guess what used to be what shields do is now just the defence stat
>>144045406
"Sigmar forbids this"
>>144044541
It's good
Best feature is having factions that are genuinely different to play
Downside is that this means you actually have less campaigns so you might get bored after like 100 hours until dlc comes
post yfw CA somehow shits the bed and makes the game worse than rome 2 on release with one dlc/patch
>>144046029
THEY CAN'T REVERSE MY CORRUPTION WHEN ALL OF THEIR SETTLEMENTS ARE RAZED
>>144046164
Hey 100 hours is still pretty hefty I cant complain about that
>>144045857
New players are fine tbqh they can be cute.
>>144045406
Would you let Karl Franz, Emperor, Prince of Altdorf, Heir of Sigmar, literally the greatest statesman the empire has ever seen slap your GF's ass at the club?Would he even be at a club? Would he be ashamed of you for being at a club when you could be preparing to save the Empire?
how are irondrakes (non torpedo) so incredibly shit
i'm shocked
>>144046343
>Would you let Karl Franz, Emperor, Prince of Altdorf, Heir of Sigmar, literally the greatest statesman the empire has ever seen slap your GF's ass at the club?
No.
I'd consider Magnus though.
>>144045009
NAGASH WAS WEAK
So how are you guys building Mannfred?
I've gotten the +10% movement thing, The Hunger, and unlocked every Death spell. Not going to upgrade any spell, since cooldown isn't an issue. Also the Tome of Vampires seems like it's sort of shit, so I just haven't bothered.
Should I go grab more spells, build stats, go battle skills, or campaign skills? What's really good?
Where the fuck is my army painter?
>>144046409
Because they are good vs weak unarmored enemies and 99% of the units are armored.
hmm, no way to tell if a unit is bracing its polearm in this right? , no animation changes and I didn't see a bracing icon/text anywhere
Are volley guns and organ guns the worst artillery in the game? y/y?
I'm retarded: How do I remove my runesmith from the army stack I joined him to?
>>144046343
With my permission he could take the Reikland runefang to her.
>>144046604
Imperial Katyushas are worse.
>>144046598
There is an animation change, it happens before an enemy charge hits
All you have to do to brace a unit is have it hold still and facing the enemy
>>144046604
No and no. The Hellcannon and Organ guns are made for different things, you're using them wrong.
>>144046604
Feels like so many units are totally worthless.
GIVE ME A VAMPIRE GF RIGHT FUCKING NOW
NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWW
Please tell me how to Warriors of Chaos. I just wanted to raze Norsca and be on my way, but the two Norscan tribes were shitting out three full stacks, and I can't even have two stacks in the same province without in-fighting.
>>144046751
tfw only girls are vampires, banshees and damsels
>>144046816
it's ok anon daemonettes and elvessoon
>>144046751
>Spiderveins on the tits
>>144046784
Get the mod that removes inbred idiot infighting.
So, if I've never played a table top before, is Age of Sigmar worth picking up and diving into?
Or should I just stick with Total War?
>>144046696
Explain how I'm "using wrong" extremely expensive artillery with less DPS than fucking handgunners.
>Finished a Chaos campaign
Feels like I accomplished nothing
>>144046604
Git gud
>>144046949
>Age of Sigmar
Anyone got the asshurt chaos dwarf image?
>>144046949
Honestly it's not worth it. I dunno what kind of wargames you'd be interested in.
I'm gonna get blasted for saying this but Warmachine/hordes is fun and a new edition is coming out in a few weeks. Go to a gaming store and see if anyone is hosting demos for it.
>>144046949
DON'T LOOK AVERT YOUR EYESstick to Total War and forget that anything after 8th edition ever existed - TW:W is the last hoorah for a once great hobby
>>144046893
>he doesn't like veiny tits
would suck the unlife out of that bitch desu senpai
>>144044119
>never played Total war anything before
>don't like RTS
>give it a try anyway because some anons here recc it
>accidentally play for 9 hrs straight
fucking hell, got sucked right in, every time I'd feel hungry and want to eat something I'd forget like 2 seconds later and focus on the game again thinking of strategies to expand while keeping money and happiness up
I gotta eat, real fun game though
>>144045752
THFE Productions does some good battles, I think he started a campaign lets play but i havent watched it.
>>144046751
>>144047345
What faction
>>144047381
m-muh dick
Does anyone else find Vampire Counts extremely boring to play?
>>144046949
The only good thing about Age of Sigmar are the starter boxes. Most of them are really good and cheap.
You could play 8th edition or the fanmade age of ninth. We still play 8th.
Age of Sigmar is ok for 1-2 games. But it get boring really fast.
>>144046712
yeah I get you there anon, all these fancy monsters which ''die to spears'' basically
>>144045861
Map move speed, all other points go to combat stats
>>144046949
For the love of god don't play Age of shitmar. Find a hobby group that sticks to pre 8th edition and you'llbe surprised how fun it can be.
>>144047417
dwarves cause this is my first time playing an RTS and it was listed as easy, if I'm actually able to beat this campaign I'll probably do vampires next
>>144046949
Age of Sigmar is an awful game
I'm not a bitter owner/player of fantasy but the rules of AoS are atrocious
It's only really worth even looking at if you're exclusively interested in modeling
>>144045752
THFE Productions
Come the fuck on, these guys only control half of Norsca but can afford 6 full stacks
>>144046580
i had them blasting three groups of zombies for about 2 minutes with no opposition
total killcount 60 for all of them, with my miners doing triple that
>>144047551
not even then because its models are atrocious imo. Worse than PP's
Really, really, wanted to like Dwarves but their so god awful boring since all their interesting stuff is useless.
New to TW games. Do they tend to start releasing balance patches eventually?
>>144045861
>>144046564
FELLOW UNDERSTANDERS OF STRATEGY
HOW DO YOU SPEC YOUR LL'S?
>greenskin rebels appear
>this should be easy
>charge my level 4 lord into their level 4 lord and they 1v1
>their level 1 lord solo's my level 4 lord and he flees
how the fuck does this work?
>>144047662
>>144047683
THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO KNOW
>>144047551
>>144047529
>>144047127
>>144047473
>>144047093
So, 8th edition or pre-8th edition? what's the difference? Keep in mind I've never touched a tabletop or wargame before, so I have no idea what I'm getting myself into.
what are the best weapons the dwarves have to take out VC armies?
>>144047613
>not even then because its models are atrocious imo. Worse than PP's
I think some of the chaos warriors stuff looks alright but I don't like the real extreme fantasy focus
The aesthetics I liked from Fantasy (bretonnia, dogs of war and tomb kings) have totally been abandoned.
The one thing GW has going for them for me is that their models aren't as crappy to assemble as PPs
>>144047536
>Dwarves
Maybe stop being a bitch and play a real faction
>>144047620
yes they do, soontm
>>144047913
Ironbreakers for meta
Irondrakes for funsies
>>144047897
Since you replied to me (The warmachine/hordes advocate), i'd say if you wanna play warhammer fantasy, the best thing you can do is go to your gaming stores nearby and see if anyone is playing warhammer fantasy in any rendition first.
That'll probably be the edition you'd be looking into.
>>144047931
I play legion. About half their models are JUST quality in assembling. Fuck Angelius.
>>144047467
Nah, I like the idea of a slower expansion
Problem is that whilst you're not raiding the lands of men you can't really fuck with the dwarfs because of attrition and them having a massive early to midgame advantage in battles
>>144047574
They're probably mostly Marauders which are actually crazy cheap
>>144046564
Basic tome of vampires spells are pretty good but death is better on him, just get a necromancer to go lore of vampires for him.
I go movement, the hunger, all the lore of death spells up to the one before purple sun then everything on combat.
>>144047574
Crappy stacks full of maruaders, Norscans don't have access to the full Chaos roster
>>144047897
Find a gameshop nearby and try it out. 8th edition.
You can always ask in a store to do testgames.
>>144047683
fuck typo
charge my level 4 lord into their level 1 lord*
he lost in like 5 second despite being full combat.
>>144047467
Nope, I'm on my 3rd VC campaign.
1st one I got owned by Chaos & Greenskins.
2nd one I owned them with a coalition of Empire & Dwarves.
3rd one I'm creeping corruption into the empire atm and deciding who to ally with.
Do you just prefer the hyper aggressive factions that destroy the world in 200 turns?
>>144047957
This needs a GOBBOS edit.
>gee lets see what the end of the red line is for empire
>+10% charge to tanks and demigryphs and 15% ward save for both
Kek
>>144047957
Why did he steal that manlet jew's broom?
>>144048354
He's fast
![4f2[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/HEYZiE6.png "4f2[1].png")
>>144046607
>How do I remove my runesmith from the army stack I joined him to?
>>144047897
Basically anyone who isn't doing shitmar will be playing the 8th edition rule book with the latest edition Army Book for their races whether that be 6th edition Wood Elves or 8th edition Lizardmen etc.
>>144048273
Not them but I like the pace of dwarfs
An evil aligned dwarfs style would be great (so fighting the empire is a victory condition but you can't occupy them and so the units are more fun)
>>144044916
How are you playing with that lord? does it happen later in the campaign or something?
>>144048395
left click his picture then move him as you would the army, if you've done it right his picture should come up bottom left rather than your lord.
>>144048395
click on army
click on his portrait
right click on the map
>>144048406
WHFB is dead around here, it's Sigmar or nothing (mostly nothing as Sigmar isn't too popular)
>Brettonia got transformed in to vampire worshiping ghouls in Age of Sigmar
THE FINAL INSULT
>>144047662
Map movement, everything else in troop enhancements.
6 units having +10 attack are better than your one unit having +9 attack
Also aura increase, a unit that fights longer is a unit that deals more damage
I would really love an AI mod that made the ai actually do sieges instead of always waiting out my cities, I really enjoy the siege battles but they are so damn rare.
>>144048406
Wood elves got an updated book.
>>144047897
Firstly check out https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Category:Warhammer/Tactics
read about the races and the playstyle.
2nd: get the army book: https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ!kF4GASgC
3rd: watch some battlereports.
So, as someone new to the WH universe is it safe to say that the tabletop isn't worth playing?
How would YOU handle this situation?
>>144048778
Some factions have really shitty troop enhancements.
Vampire counts don't really have anything relevant other than increased aura size and situational bonuses.
>>144048885
Yes
>>144048917
it ain't gonna suck itself
>>144048885
Yes. Without a doubt.
>>144048917
unzips dick
>this post chaos slog as the empire having to clean up norscans and orcs
Really wish I could go full Trump and just build a wall at those southern passages
>>144048917
So you want something to suck?
>>144048885
From someone who bought an $1100 army 6 months before Age of Sigmar.....yes it's not worth it.
>>144048885
The tabletop is DEAD.
Games Workshop killed warhammer fantasy, there's nothing left, the end.
They made some new game wearing it's skin to try and draw in old fans but if you're looking for warhammer fantasy I'm afraid it's too late.
>unavoidable night battles in a deep forest
>>144048778
>6 units having +10 attack are better than your one unit having +9 attack
Gobbos benefit way more from grimgor being a beast than from their shit infantry being marginally better
>>144048305
>gonna stab em!
>>144049003
lore-wise i believe gelt becomes trump and summons a "wall of faith" to keep chaos out
>>144049126
>>144049057
>>144048964
Well shit. At least you guys saved me some money.
Damn shame too-- I'm going into the Airforce soon and I heard there's a lot of tabletop nerds that are enlisted. Not really sure what other tabletop to begin with now.
>>144049162
Speaking of Gelt I'm surprised they made him so bland, seeing as he was doing a bunch of fun stuff with necromancy
>>144048846
Thanks for that link bro
>>144047957
>stop being a bitch
but I'm a girl anon
Advice for fighting chaos as the empire?
I'm playing on very hard, and there's 6-8 stacks of the various chaos factions running around nordland and middenland constantly raiding.
>>144049368
stop being a bitch m'lady
SOME ONE POST ROLL
>>144049368
Girls don't play this game.
>>144049409
thank you angry virgin :^) tehee
>>144049342
Best to see what everyone else plays
probably 40k
>>144045406
No Emperor, No.
>>144049493
*looks up from under fedora*
Well, gee... Haha I'm glad you're playing Warhammer 'tis a rare thing to see! Let's play a multiplayer campaign, if anything I'll be the one playing Empire! hehe!
>>144049162
>>144049003
Yeah and just like trump it ends up ruining his own country
Are pistoleers/outriders worth using?
>>144047529
this might be a commonly asked question but why does everyone shit on age of sigmar? im clueless about the tabletop game or warhammer lore in general, i just play the videogames because they're pretty fun
>>144049368
We all are. Now stop being a bitch.
>>144049832
Yes, you can pull an entire flank off of your opponents main army and never get dragged into melee for it
>>144049737
a supreme gentleman, truly
>>144047009
At least you "just" finish chaos campaign.
Just wait 'till you played it on legendary.
>>144049874
They tried to turn Warhammer Fantasy into Warhammer Skirmish with totally not space marines. Plus the End Times story was fucking retarded.
>>144049832
I think outriders are really good, quickly running behind the enemy and shooting them in the back makes them panic.
Pistoleets are shitty outriders, take that as you will.
>>144049792
epic bro simply epic
>>144045587
I'M DOING IT
>>144050187
I'M FORGETTING THE IMAGE
THE GODS DEMAND BLOOD, THEY SHALL HAVE IT IN PLENTY
>>144049420
>>144049420
>>144049420
>>144049420
>>144049420
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>144045682
>>144045587
So hold on a sec, are the norse tribes even crazy with Chaos considering they don't have much after tribesmen?
Are there any actual normal norsemen who are maybe just a little bit corrupted, but still rational?
>wreck the vargs/skaelings
>peace out
>now use the empire as a highway to bretonnia
kek, perfidious imperius strikes again
>>144050382
ROLL
wow
dwarf melee vs. archers you literally have to sit their whilst they use up all their ammo on you.
if they have skirmish on you can never actually catch them.
shouldn't they have some kind of charge speed bonus like on TT to stop this kind of bullshit?
>>144049737
>>144050506
just use gyrocopters bro :)
>>144050363
doingthe darkgods work anon.
normally I'd dissaprove of the old corner waller but against 4+ stacks any cheese to win. especially since losing an upgraded chaos horde stacks buildings sucks royal dick
>>144050506
Dwarf Quarrelers shit on the other factions though
>>144050442
>Are there any actual normal norsemen who are maybe just a little bit corrupted, but still rational?
Yeah most tribes are like vikings but not crazy chaos vikings.
That usually only happens when a chaos chosen comes around and leads them
>>144050506
Radious will solve that problem with dwarf cavalry.
>>144050787
So why don't they ever tell them to fuck off?
>>144050506
Just back off and make them run into range of your superior archers
And no the no mobility army should not have a counter for mobility, you already have miners as a semi-counter
>>144050506
use your own ranged units and artillery to shit on theirs.
>>144049874
They took warhammer fantasy battles, a twenty something year old setting that a very fun game with lots of models that people bought for it, and destroyed it.
Finished, gone, twenty years they built on warhammer fantasy and in the space of a few months it was destroyed.
Now they brought out "the sequel" to warhammer fantasy, a shallow imitator des dictating it's corpse and it's name is Age of Sigmar.
People don't hate it because it's bad (that's a matter of taste), people hate it because it killed fantasy.
>>144050985
I think it's more than just killing it
I mean I'm sad that the models are worse, sad that the lore is worse and sad that the game is worse
None of that's actually down to me being upset over the death of fantasy, those are all just flaws with the new game
12 empr
23 dwarf
45 orcs
67 vc
89 chaos
Need advice for Greenskins on very hard
If I confederate with red spears or whatever dwarfs don't let go of my ass ever and I end up getting attacked from at least three sides
If I spread into Badlands dwarfs unite and fuck me with two full armies
Also orcs seem to have shit leadership which is a pain in the ass when AI gets bonus morale
>>144051309
1-3 arc
4-6 kholek
7-9 magnificent
>>144050927
"Though they may seem barely civil in times of peace, the Norse, Kurgan and Hung are vicious races of bloodthirsty warriors. Used to battling amongst themselves - war is their natural state and they wage it without concern or prejudice. They rejoice in battle and strength at arms, and honour the brave of both sides while despising the cowards likewise. Yet they are willing to forget their differences when the Gods command them to fight on their behalf. For there is no greater joy than to fight and die in the armies of the immortals."
For them, the chaos gods are not evil. they just are. to morally judge them would be the epitome of arrogance, so when a hardcore chaos champ appears to lead them, they jump at the opportunity. (they are also a warrior culture, so they're very warlike.)
>tfw cant make mannfred an elector count
I've had Mannfred as an ally to the Empire for 100 turns now and they singlehandedly held off the Orcs
But their corruption has gone too far, and the oppressed halflings must be freed
I was sad that Skullcrushers weren't in the DLC
>>144051335
it might be worth it to just kill the dwarves as soon as you can.
How do I properly deploy a dwarven turtle/guard stance army?
>>144049874
Like >>144050029 said its really bad.
If you want to see how bad just go to 1d4chan they've got all the explanations.
>>144050363
I have reformed my line of battle, having a short respite from the human waves Skaeling is throwing at me.
The battle is not yet over, as the weaklings have brought in even more men to try and topple the Everchosen.
They will not succeed.
>>144048837
I find the AI likes to siege on the final turn before you start suffering attrition. so just wait it out.
its weird, you'd think they'd just attack straight away. or wait until attrition sets in. but I guess they want to build up as much siege weapons as possible while still attacking while you're at full strength so that the AI actually does siege instead of just always starving you out.
>>144050442
To them they aren't "that great evil up north threatening to destroy all civilization," to them they're just the norscan gods. A part of their culture and life, and whatever the gods demand they perform.
Just like the norse in our world were seen as "evil marauding heathens" by christians. But they were just doing things they way they did 'em.
PROTECT
HIS
SMILE
>>144049832
I only play with the better guns mod but they're good in that for covering your flanks. Even if your pistoleers get chewed up that's better than getting rear charged by a million doggies.
>>144051106
Remember the rules using the classic models, where it said shit like "If you hold a cup and say "for the lady!" you get a reroll!"
Like how fucking insulting is that.
>>144050506
As a dwarf you should have at least 4 artillery pieces.
>>144049832
Y E S
If you can flank and shoot into the back of the enemy it's basically gee gee, right there. Otherwise you can use them as ghetto spearwalls and meme much stronger enemy cavalry to defend your own flanks by kiting. Worst comes to worst they form a good second ranged line because due to their elevation they can fire over your own troops, so you end up with melee-outriders-crossbows.
Grenade launchers are kinda underwhelming though.
I'm going to try a Dwarf playthrough and I'd like to make use of embedded heroes more this time. I won my last Humie campaign on VH without ever really using them in my armies.
Thane - Just use it like a melee lord, no?
Engineer - Ranged and buffs ranged around him, but is their ranged damage actually any good?
Runepriest - Buffs? I don't know what the fuck these actually do in combat
>>144049874
Sigmar's really bad as a game and a setting but the really retarded thing is that they took a big army game in a traditional fantasy setting and replaced it with a skirmish game in a really weak realms of existence setting
So it's like the opposite of what their players did like
And for new players it's not appealing because it's really fucking expensive still, and also really hard to get a fair game of because the actual rules offer no balance
How the fuck am i supposed to get more lords as chaos when they take 20 turns to get a single growth point?
shouldn't a lot of the orc/chaos units have some kind of impetuous trait?
>>144051896
Rune's are like mages
Dwarfs are probably the army that least needs heroes though so try em all out, you won't struggle because of it
>>144051896
runebros are probably the best for dwarves. their buffs are incredible, and are cooldown-based so you don't have to worry about winds of magic.
>>144049832
Outriders only cost 100 more than handgunners but have 50% more damage output and better mobility. Once you get outriders, handgunners are obsolete.
>>144049832
Outriders are better against enemy troops, but Pistoleers are better at skirmish fights because they can fire all around themselves while outriders can only shoot forward.
outriders are better though.
>>144051968
Take growth skills first
tfw none of the chariot units in the game are fun
>>144049832
Pistoliers are absolute shit, they take ages to actually open fire on the enemy and during that time they will get massacred by bowmen.
>>144051889
>grenade launchers
>never hit shit because the enemy troops aren't marching
>province only 15% corruption
>the land is already splitting apart
>>144051968
spend the 4 lord points to get like +8 growth and then research anything growth related
If you don't do it immediately the campaign gets really boring because nothing ever unlocks
>>144052246
People don't know how to use chariots
>>144052295
They can fire and move you dumb nigger. Use them like caracole cavalrybecause that's what they fucking areand you can rekt shit.
>>144051968
razing settlements scores you 4+ growth for a turn.
sacking doesn't though.
>>144052295
All missile cav are like that.
>>144052246
Chaos Chariots and Black Coach are bretty fun.
Coach because of dem buffs and Chaos Chariot for pure carnage factor.
lol
BLOOD AND GORE WHEN???? RRRREEEEEE
Will bretonnians be able to siege with their disgustingly bad infantry if they don't bring 5 trebuchets?
>>144051586
THE RUINOUS POWERS ARE WITH ME
TREMBLE AT THE EVERCHOSEN'S ASCENSION MORTALS
>>144052295
lol what, they aren't machine gunners. You let them reload and run near enemy cavalry or infantry. As soon as the enemy tries to charge them you pull back. If the enemy does not have faster units you can break up their entire formation since they can't afford getting flanked and have to actively send units in your direction.
Elves are the best
>>144051896
thane - melee lord, very tough, can essentially tank the entire time, I would rush mine out ahead of the line and use him to cause some enemy units to blob up so i could fire into it with my artillery.
Engineer - buffs gunners and artillery, OR buffs the army skills (his movement bonus (heavy lifting) on his blue campaign skills line is amazing) or both is done right. his gun doesn't do much but considering that you'd rather have him near your artillery when he gets his artillery buffing skills then having the ranged attack isn't so bad.
Runepriest - A buffomancer that doesn't have to rely on winds of magic. As op as it sounds and the buffs are pretty good too. Also good in melee so don't be afraid to send them in.
>tfw your greenskin Waagh turns against you despite being your faction with your banner and your everything.
>Can suggest it a target, but it attacked me.
>Guess my game is broken right after I destroyed the last of Chaos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQCIqnmibhg
>When some fuck goes to war at your rear side
>>144052295
They bully cavalry pretty hard because most can't catch up
My marauder horsemen couldn't do shit against them but again they are fucking awful from what I understood
All this game does is make me wish for a single Bofors gun for my lines.
Just fucking one...
>>144048475
Seconded.
Any good unit packs you use, /twg/?
>>144052754
Marauder horsemen are much better because they can actually hurt things wearing armor.
>>144052678
I saw a greenskin WAAAGH sieging a greenskin held dwarf hold and I couldn't figure out what was going on because I was just marching past.
>>144052547
he lost 51% of his army
you lost 74%
>mfw for once in my life the 8GB ram is holding me back from enjoying this game to its maximum
>>144052678
Greenskins are the Iron Islanders of Warhammer. Completely fucking retarded and more a danger to themselves than anyone else.
>>144052664DarkElves are the best
