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>>143737175
IF OUR PRINCE IS TO BECOME EMPERORMILITARY RULER OF ALL ELECTOR COUNTS
How fast should I expand as the Empire?
My first game as them, I got memed by expanding too fast and overextending
Difficulty ranking from easiest to hardest
Dwarf > Vampire > Empire > Chaos > Orcs
Its true, you know it.
4th for why did they rename all the races in AoS
>>143759117
Secure empire borders first
Fuck expansion
From last thread:
>>143759014
>>143759016
I honestly dont know. I do what I'm supposed to. Kept my range dudes safe and constantly firing. Kept hit and running with my calvalry. Sent Karl after their lord to whip his ass. Then the reinforcements come and its all over.
>>143759171
To get the copywrite them
>>143759090
Mods will fix it.:^)
Well, atleast most of it, if we can get a fucking mdoel importer.
>>143759117
Grab Marienburg immediately after you're done securing Reikland. Then sit on your ass and tech up, and if you get into a war sack instead of occupy to get mad dosh.
>>143759147
Well actually orcs is easier than chaos
Is anyone else sad about there being no victory cinematic, cutscene or just a word from the advisor?
> Tomb Kings still not announced
>>143759265
Not that guy but if I sack does the province just lie dead for the rest of the game?
>>143759147
Orcs are the easiest, vampires are the hardest
>>143759242
You should be playing heartstone or something
>>143759147
>orcs
>harder than chaos
>Empire
>more difficult than VC
What?
>>143759281
Because you haven't won yet, friend.
>>143759352
>>143759342
>being this bad with Vamps
You have LITERALLY infinite cheap armies. Get. Good.
Relevent to previous thread.
mfw the whole "attila has 48 siege layouts warhammer total war only has 3" "meme" turned out to be true
>>143759352
>vc
>difficult at all
lmao literally spam skelly stacks+dire wolves until you can field graveguard and varghulfs
>>143759281
Was playing coop, the final 15 or so settlements were just a chore, the game was already won. Slowly we get them, then the final one, and then instant win screen.
>"Uhh, good work."
>>143759281
Extremely disappointing. I also didn't know that Chaos was such a bitch in combat. Beat their armies back and that was just about it. No End Times, no Storm of Chaos. Their invasion was more of a wimper than a bang.
There's a mod that doubles their numbers which seems intersting, using it alongside a flat 25% more taxes mod should make the AI better at defending as well.
I'm really hoping they at least add in some village maps or something for walless cities like there was in the m2 mod
>>143759436
I only realized about that trick after getting the Steam Tank. I'll have to try it with my next dwarves campaign
>>143759321
Never stop my friend.
dealing with norskan scum is a nightmare, it take ages to move around in the raiding stance
I have vampires on one side that I cant attack because 2 stacks are busy fighting norskans and KF is busy watching over Badlands and killing whatever orc stack he can get with hit and run tactics, I've been doing nothing but pressing end turn button while watching my armies crawl like a wounded turtle over the north, not fun desu
>>143759392
I got long campaign victory conditions twice. Theres no end cinematic.
>my orcs took 25% unit damage when dworfs came out of their settlement to meet them in battle
what is this and why does it exist?
>>143759436
The AI aims towards your artillery, especially with cavalry.
>>143759147
1.EMPIRE
POWER GAP
2. VAMPIRES
3. ORCS
4. DWARFS (FUCKING TAKES FOREVER TO FINISH GRUDGES)
9001: CHAOS
>>143759436
The AI will spread out and try to encircle your arty with its own cavalry occassionally try to out flank you, you can't hammer and anvil them to death anymore.
Jesus I want to play MP but I'm terrified of it.
>>143759470
It could even have just one, it's not like we ever see them.
With my empire campaign of 150 turns i must've actually fought 2 sieges.
>>143759598
Hence the little greet boxes to defend them.
I didn't think anyone could fail to understand a diagram that simple but I stand corrected.
>>143759117
Slowly, very slowly. Use diplomacy with humans, your first focus should be immediately wiping out the successionists, then getting Stirland into confederation and moving through their land to wipe out the Vampires, the northern stuff gets raped by chaos/norse and is just a chore to deal with early game. When Archaeon shows up you get a massive boost to diplo and can start confederating with everyone. Fucking up the vampires also gets you big diplo boosts, same if you send a boat full of spear/crossbows to pillage the Norse coastal provinces, that'll help you get Marienburg into confederation. I just finished an Empire campaign that took about 140 turns and I never declared war on a human faction. End of the game literally every human/dwarf faction was allied with me and I had confederated all of the Empire but Nordland and Ostmark.
>>143758846
Empire has to play defensively with early units. Make a line with spears (shielded ones if possible) or halberds and puts crossbows/gunners/artillery behind it. Map corner tactics make every defensive battle trivial. The Reiksgards you start with are incredibly important to keep alive for the whole successionist revolt since they rape human swords/spearsmen in flank attacks.
>>143759470
>mfw nobody gives a shit about sieges anyway
>>143759406
>>143759471
Vamps aren't hard but Empire is so much easier than anyone else
So, who is the most useful Lord this far? Grimgor fucking slaughters everything, but is he better than Karl Franz on Deathclaw or Manfred on his thing? How do he fare again Archaon?
>>143759720
Probably one of the vampire lords
They get flying mounts and bullshit magic that can obliterate other lords
Hot damn did I underestimate Knights of the Realm
These motherfuckers rolling charges all battle long on my squishy skellingtons almost wiped me out completely, it came down to the based Vampire Lord taking on 2 KotR, 1 spearmen and 2 archer by himself.
>>143759171
muh OC donut steel
but look at the positive side, you can quickly identify the few Skubmar autists when they spout those autistic names
>>143759720
Probably Mannfred.
>>143759436
you are better of using another unit of demigryphs or reiksguard, artillery is ass
>>143759860
Stay in the old thread, nobody wants you here.
>>143759895
>he thinks its just one person
The desperation is showing.
>>143759587
Attrition due to low fightiness possibly
Europe was broken.
Led astray by false prophets and torn apart by the petty whims of its myriad kings.
The people were trapped under the yoke of war, injustice and ignorance.
But you deposed these tyrants with the might of your arms.
You tore down their thrones and elevated true religion, justice and peace in their place.
Now, with one voice, people hail you...
As the first of Europe's true Caliphs!
Fucking bravo CA, like actually no shit bravo I want to throw more money at you now.
>>143759720
ive been testing LL's in 1v1 duels in custom battles for a while now, turns out grimgor pretty much smashes everyone with no effort with the exception of archaon, who he went down to the wire with
>>143759793
>Fielding nothing but infantry
>Mainly sword infantry
>Surprised when he takes massive casualties against shock cav
Is this your first Total War game?
>>143759704
What does vassalizing a faction do exactly?
>>143760004
Why are these pictures never a good resolution
>>143759983
>Ulthuan that close
trash.jpg
>>143759321
>no tomb kings
>no lizard men
>no skaven
>no chaos dwarves
>no dark elves
>no playable kislev that isn't just another imperial faction with slightly different flavor text
>no playable norsican faction
shit game
>>143759940
They LITERALLY were all at 100% before dwarf turn
Meloncat are you and Dresden working on anything Warhammer related?What about FOTE?
>>143760004
It's a throwaway army because Bordeleaux opened up a second front while I was fighting Leoncoeur with my main armies in the north, I knew I'd take a beating but damn, they did a lot more work than I expected.
Got any like that one lads? I only have the one with pikemen and Warhammer one
>>143760061
thats an agent assaulting your units anon
>>143759860
Enfiliating fire from a couple of cannon does a shit load more damage than even demigryphs can in the same amount of time.
With the added benefit of being able to snipe war machines or monsters at long range as well.
Just because you can't micro for shit and just Ctr+A and click on the enemy army doesn't mean anything that requires care to use is automatically worthless.
>>143759932
>he has headmates
My condolences.
>>143760016
They can't diplo. Basically it's confederation except they keep their units and shit under AI control instead of yours. It can be a good decision if you can't pay upkeep on the armies of a faction you want to confederate.
>>143760134
Bu they can only damage one unit?
>having infantry in your army
I seriously hope you peasants don't do this
>>143759720
Mannfred's the best just because he can kill any lord with magic
Grimgor and Archaeon are the best fighters IIRC
>>143760061
Dorf agent fucked your units up.
>>143760221
>pure cav army
>not Empire
lel
>>143760221
>that many yeomen
No honor
>>143760171
>this unit when in ideal positioning and with ideal movement from the enemy AI does more damage guys!!!
Great, but 9/10 you won't have a good way of setting it up so your argument is kinda pointless.
>>143760221
>having anything but arty in your army
>>143760221
>not going full artillery
This is actually viable on goblins
>>143760212
Empire Captains can damage a whole bunch of units in one go, I guess whatever that Dwarf is can do that too.
>>143759992
Really? I just tried it and Karl Franz on a deathclaw fucked him up.
So, I've won two campaigns on Normal difficulty, one Empire, one Dorf.
I'd like to play VC now, and I'm considering trying the hard difficulty.
What's different compared to normal ?
>>143760343
beautiful
>>143760343
>1 unit of cav on each flank
>get slaughtered
If all you're going to be fighting is slow melee units on foot then sure I guess.
Guys is the Warhammer Total War meme true, is it a good game? I've been memed before
>>143760409
Very solid OSL on that model, damn.
Model example for the technique to be honest, it's just enough to give the effect without making the model look overdone.
>>143760409
Friendly fire is turned on and npc factions get buffs.
>>143760092
>tfw Dresden will never make a DeI for Attila
>>143759281
Why does everyone keep saying they want word from the advisor when you win? He literally summons the fucking bird to kill you. He literally dies for it. The advisor cannot congratulate you on winning.
>>143760483
If you're a rome/medi 2 autist you might not like it
If you dislike fantasy you might not like it
If you don't like the idea of only having 5 factions (albeit very different ones) you might not like it
Otherwise you'll probably like it
>>143760409
It's either gonna be the Dwarves or the Orcs dominating your entire flank. Make sure you get in good with the right side.
>>143759679
Except from the image it appears that the tiny green boxes are the cannons themselves because of the letter C next to them.
>>143760573
Thank god.
>>143760339
>9/10 you won't have a good way of setting it up
You're either trolling or so inept it isn't even funny.
>>143760447
For campaign:
AI gets more money, you get more public order penalties, more diplomatic penalties, more aggressive AI who will try to attack you when you are weak
In battles (you can turn this off in options, so play on hard but set the combat) difficulty to normal;
Increased moral for enemy armies and decreased for your armies
As an Orc, should I try and vassal other tribes, confederate other tribes, ally them or wipe em out?
What units are literally trash? Is there any you should avoid at all costs?
I have to say I'm a little dissapointed with the Dwarf artillery given how great it's supposed to be in lore.
I expected to wipe out entire units in one volley. 4 Organ guns and I can't even do that.
Not to mention that the Empire gets shit like the Volley over the Organ gun and Mortars and the Gyrocopters aren't that great...
>Have army in a settlement with garrison
>Enemy besieges
>Sally out
>Lord's army starts on opposite side of battlefield to garrison
How. How does that fucking work. They're both in the settlement, why don't they arrive on the same side of the battlefield.
>>143760582
>If you're a rome/medi 2 autist you might not like it
I'll give it a pass then (or more likely pirate it later in the year)
>>143760409
WE PASS THE GASH
>>143760520
There's no FF on normal ?
I spent two campaigns playing ranged-heavy armies and having my ranged units stop firing to units engaged with my first line...
>>143760713
It is turned down significantly.
>replaying poopan for the 25th time because 2poor for warhams
I haven't even come here since launch because I don't want to spoil myself
>>143760672
>made a webm for Dwarfs like >>143760343
>it was so boring it wasn't even worth posting
Those flame cannons are the biggest disappointment. They do jackshit.
Organ cannons were pretty good though.
>>143760670
every marauder that doesn't hae a great weapon.
So is karl franz on a deathclaw the way to go if I want to do a full melee hero that is as powerful a unit as possible?
>>143760670
Luminark, slayers, pistollers, spearmen without shields, hammerers
>>143760665
Confederate them, you'll constantly get rebellions and you can fight the rebels to get free Waaghs! all the time. Conquer all dwarves and savage orcs then confederate all tribes. All your cities will be pissed, just go around with 5 lords with decent 20/20 armies and defeat all rebels all game, use Waagh! armies to defeat the rest of the world.
>>143760343
>Not having two armies move together everywhere
>Not having one be completely inf and cav and the other complete arty
Best of both worlds
>>143760801
>hammerers
What?
>>143760826
>not having 3 armies solely made of big guys
So do shields do anything in melee, or do they only block arrows? To put it another way, is there any reason to take shielded troops against chaos, or do you just spam the two-handing weapons?
>>143760928
Shielded trait only gives bonus towards ranged units.
Against Chaos get every two-hander you can get.
When do Chaos first appear?
Is it based on the turn number or your progress through chapter quests?
>>143760773
My biggest disappointment so far was having Two Gyrobombers drops all 12 of their bombs center mass into one unit and it doing jack-Sigmar-fucking-shit.
For being a faction that's only purpose is so destroy shit with artillery and guns from afar while frontline units tank their artillery and guns are pretty dissapointing, even the Empire's is better. Plus they're more versatile.
Organ guns are nice but I think the best I did with them was focus 4 of them on a group of Chaos Trolls in order to get the Chaos Trolls to half-health and broken.
...after about 3 volleys of course.
And as far as flying units go, I'm honestly more excited for Bretonnia's Flying Pegasus Knights.
So yeah, as much as I love Dwarves, extremely dissapointed with them right now.
>>143760928
If you're empire greatswords have good armour which is actually better than shields
>>143761012
Yeah, im thinking I might mod them to make them better or something. Empire shouldnt have the better arty.
>>143761004
about turn 50
It's tied to development/expansion
WHO IS T'BECOME KANG?!LEADER OF ALL SKELEMANS, WITH OR WITHOUT BODIES
>trying to play Chaos on Very Hard
>>143760579
This literally does not happen
Ok...I have a question here.
Whats the point of hellblaster volley guns again?
Has anyone found their niche spot yet? So far I can't.
>>143760406
should probably have stated i had them all on foot for le epic 1v1 duels
franz on deathclaw is OP as fuck
i'm starting out a co-op campaign with my little brother and i'm playing Empire, can i get some tips for early game? i dont' want to fuck it up
wondering when to build a second army, what provinces i should focus on getting, who to ally with, what direction to invade etc.
any helpful tips would be greatly appreciated
>>143761012
>For being a faction that's only purpose is so destroy shit with artillery and guns from afar
Those arent dwarves., thats the empire.
Your artillery supports you, but its not your workhorse, the really strong and diverse infantry are what makes dwarves strong.
>>143760928
They increase melee defence by a bit, but that is already factored into the stats of the unit. For example compare empire spears to empire spears with shields.
>>143761012
I came to dwarves for tanky ironbreakers and troll-murdering slayers, so I'm alright with them.
>>143761290
They are good vs monsters/large/killing heroes
A single one can take off about half a giants health before it reaches it from my testing
>>143761112
Thing is, the Empire has better arti in the lore, too. Dwarf artillery is just much more reliable.
>>143761129
Thanks man
are goblin big bosses any good for combat?
After getting literally abandoned in the tabletop Bretonnia is going to be the first faction they work up.
Tomb kangz and chaos manlet cucks on suicide watch.I swear if they pull some dismounted X bullshit I will kill myself.
>thic
>>143761395
They are surprisingly tough
So, who should I try next?
>Crackerjack dwarfs
>Muh sillon vamps
>Crooked gobbos (this mod that makes them playable only gives them goblin units)
THIS SHIT NEEDS TO BE PATCHED JESUS FUCK.
>>143760815
>Confederate with Bloody Spears
>Suddenly leap from low rank to highest rank and now possess a ton of land
Jobs a good un
>>143761225
Wanna fucking bet? Go play chaos. I got a cinematic of him laughing like a shitcock that he used me to make my empire great only to shit on it, his bird flew into the sky and exploded and then killed him and turned into the Changer of Ways.
Then the Changer and his doomstack spawned and started moving towards my army.
>>143761112
I have to say the worst I'm dissapointed with is the Thunderers and Gyros.
Gyros just seem completely useless.
And while I can understand Handgunngers being a ranged counter to armour for the Empire, Dwarf Thunderers are just the exact same niche. The only thing they have going for them over that is they're a "decent" melee combatant. I expected total ranged destruction, instead I got wimps with shitty guns.
>>143761290
It's like a unit or 2 of handgunners but slower and moore expensive
>>143761395
There is any easy way to test this:
Does a unit have goblin in its name? Then it isn't good for combat.
>>143761415
It's pretty fucking hilarious how the stuff GW killed is the stuff that CA has immediately identified as the most iconic parts of warhammeryou can already kinda play bretonnia with mods
>>143761463
Is the version that gives negative leadership against VC called "Easily spooked"? Because if not, we need a mod here, stat.
>>143760882
>Not having Grimgor march around with a full retinue of Black Orcs, Big Uns and Giants, with three lords dedicated solely to nothing but Boyz and one gobbo lord full of Wolf Riders
Holy fuck, playing as Chaos on Very Hard is exhausting. You have to excel at every battle, as the AI will literally never engage you with anything but 3+ stacks at once.
Trying to get a second horde up and running is a nightmare, as the Lord will face endless doomstacks before getting the chance to get Lightning Strike, and you don't have any rebellions to farm for easy XP.
Fucking hell, the northern dwarves have fucking six full armies of Longbeards and Thunderers on the one settlement they still possess. I can only imagine what bullshit the Empire pulls out of their fat asses if I ever manage to break through Kislev.
ALRIGHT YOU VAMPIRE FUCKING SHITS
YOU TAKE MY KINS MOUNTAIN HOMES AND RAID OUR LANDS
PREPARE FOR MODERN WAR
If I buy total war of a site like Green Man Gaming will I still get the Chaos DLC?
>>143761669
Well, that's what you get for creating Age of Sigmar.
>>143761678
>Dwarfen aircorps is limited in speed around the campaign map to one lone chucklefuck running everywhere
>>143761678
>It aint me starts playing
>>143761678
>tfw I tried to make every Dwarven faction keep their lands and be their own autonomous faction.
>I just wanted them to be happy
>They start fighting among each other
I know the only reason to ever want multiple holds is to have a lore reason for Dwarves to fight each other but come on...
Do you guys just make 1 or 2 full stacks with the best units you can have or keep a few around to defend your lands? Because I can't fucking expand without some asshole taking my cities on the opposite end.
>>143761760
Yes, but it's only free for one week after launch.
After you install it on Steam, go to the DLC page and add the WoC package for free.
ez pz 1100 vs 3800, siege ai is still dumb af
>>143761362
Nooo? They failed miserably versus a Giant, where a normal unit of great cannons fucked the giant up.
>>143761760
If you register the game on Steam before Tuesday you can add the DLC for free even if the store you use doesn't give you it.
>Game has been out less than a week
Holy fuck.
>>143761760
You get the dlc from steam so yeah
But it goes paid fairly soon
>>143761878
>>143761919
Thanks mang, can't wait to play and be disappointed like with Rome 2
>>143761290
don't bother it's not worth the cost imo, better off with another cannon or handgun unit
>>143761760
Bought mine on GMG and got it. Was a preorder, but don't think that should effect it.
>>143761874
Pretty much one stack with the best and the rest with starter units. You have to rely a lot on garrisons.
>>143761787
Who else is gonna lug 50 tons of fuel and ammo around. The gyrocopters take-off and land on that carrier-man
>>143761954
If you like the Warhammer franchise then you won't. It is hands down the best Warhammer game made next to Dawn of War.
If you don't know anything about it you might get butthurt like TWC has.
>>143761874
Depends on the faction
As gobbos I can basically never attack with my best stack
>>143761901
Hellcannon is far better because it works on everything
>>143761983
Yeah, I've noticed. I had to build Town Guards in literally every damn town so someone wouldn't declare war on me, bring a full stack and instantly capture/sack them while I'm busy elsewhere.
>Finish Dwarf campaign on normal
>Time for Sigmar praising is here
>Empire on hard
>Turn 4
>3 Orc armies and 3 secessionist armies in my territory.
>Franz attacked by 2 orc armies back to back, army battered in first, army survives but in tatters after 2nd, then 2 secessionist armies attack at same time.
>Army from Nuln comes up and destroys an orc army, praise Sigmar!
>Turn 5, my other army is holding the first city (and only city I captured).
>Orcs attack with regrouped army
>The army and garrison hold out, light wizard does work
>All secessionist armies attack
>The city is done for, the army destroyed to the man.
>They now march on Altdorf
Back to normal for me.
>>143762083
I've not read much into warhammer but I'm definitely a fan of fantasy and I've played every single Total War game with the exception of Medieval 1.
I've heard the AI isn't borderline retarded anymore. Could it be true?
>>143761529
Bretonnia was even argued on /tg/ for squatting, constantly being called the most uncreative race.
>>143762183
AI is good in this, however siege ai is still kind of broken, you can easily defend outnumbered 1:10.
>>143762156
I dont know why the AI gets such hate-boners for the player in this game.
Theres a 3rd stack in the Fog btw.
>>143762213
Oh come now dear, nothing in warhammer is remotely creative, /tg/'s just more familiar with monty python than some of the sources for other races
>>143762124
But...it doesn't really. Normal cannons do about as good versus ordinary infantry and much better versus large and monsters. Not to mention the range.
>>143762213
Occams razor, CA wanted to do the least amount of work for most amount of profit
Bretonnia is really easy to port normal TW units over, hardly any work needs to be done.
In addition, you can see CAs cashgrab behavior in the Chaos faction, which literally copies units from other factions
(Chaos Giant = copies)
(Choas spawn = Crypt horrors)
(cHAOS Trolls = copies of trolls)
(Hounds = copies)
(Marauders = generic h.a cav)
(chaos demon cannons = mortar copies with reskinned animation)
Stop falling for the CA jew, support BoTeT
>>143759992
I tried Kholek vs Grimgor and Grimgor got fucking slaughtered. Didn't stand a chance
>>143762254
>not again
Oh well, when is it not retarded?
How's the multiplayer anyway?
>>143762156
I did Empire on very hard. I finished it yesterday after 227 turns and I only fought orcs ONCE. Sometimes it's really funny how the AI acts in differned games.
>>143762334
>Normal cannons do about as good versus ordinary infantry
Pffffffffffffff, no they absolutely dont.
>>143762254
That's mostly because towers are OP as fuck atm
>>143762128
Yeah, always build garrisons. They will not stop any fullstack armies, but they will help give you time to prepare a defense.
>>143762183
AI is genuinely good.
>inb4
Yes, it's still a AI and it will make wonky decisions, but I have had nothing but good fights from it.
Except in sieges. It's still kind of weird there but overall it's been a blast.
>>143761968
I forgot to mention that the one aspect I have found them useful is air-defence. They'll blast most flying thing out of the air real fast.
>>143762324
Chaos (the actual concept of it, not the "Vikings literally bring about the end of the world" hordes rendition) is pretty neat.
Warhammer is still my favorite fantasy world there is, and that's a world that literally named their version of Japan "Nippon."
>>143762504
Yeah, if you don't build like 20 siege towers, the wall towers gonna destroy you before you even reach walls.
>>143759623
You certainly can. Not with cannons like that though.
>>143762574
the fucking reinforcements bug is nearly gamebreaking, I hope they fix it quickly
So what have you guys named your units?
>Empire campaign
>units named #th Province Regiment
>specific names given for notable deeds in battle
>Skaeling quest battle, Helstrom rockets given name "Skaelings Scourge" for the havoc they wrought upon the Skaeling invaders
>massive siege battle at Grunstadt defending against Greenskin horde of 7,000, one of the few non garrison units remaining on the wall given "Rock of Grunstadt"
>free Reiksguard at beginning of game, "Emperor's Own Chargers"
>Religion based on Arthurian legends
>Use longbowmen
>Use Billmen
>Peasants are all English
>Nobles are all French
>Flag is a lion
>King shouts 'The Lady and My Right' in battle
Why do people think Bretonnians are early Medieval France and not early Medieval England?
>>143762370
This is why I can see Nippon happening eventually, they just need to bring shit from Shogun 2
>>143762370
Nothing wrong with units sharing animation sets, anon. Why do you think they had dozens of factions in the previous games but only 6 in WH? Because they need to create unique animations for orcs, humans, chaos, dorfs, and every monster and flying unit.
Shit takes time.
>>143762684
Tell me about this bug
>>143762370
To be fair, some of them are meant to be copies. Thats how they were designed in the tabletop.
"Ok, how about trolls. BUT CHAOS!"
What the hell did you expect? Why would they make an entire new set of animations for a different hound unit? Its a hound, it doesnt need to differ.
>>143762156
Similar shit happened to me.
>Empire on Very Hard
>Aight, got Grunberg, if I march on the other two towns quickly I can finish the secessionists and secure Reikland.
>Take southern one without any resistance.
>And now to finish the las-
>Two full stacks of enemy orcs casually stroll past the secessionist stack and beeline for Karl's butthole.
>Abandon town and turtle in Grunberg for 4-5 turns until they leave, moment by which the secessionists have two full stacks.
>By the time I manage to defeat them, literally everyone else in the world is much, much stronger than me.
>Except Talabecland and Stirland, of course, they got wiped out almost instantly leaving me with literally no factions that had good relations with me.
>Turtle in Reikland for 60 turns until chaos starts fucking shit up and I manage to snipe Marienburg and Nuln while no one's looking.
And then Archaon actually got his shit together and started marching south and suddenly everyone wants to ride my dick.
>>143762370
>CHAOS COPIED SHIT
Well ok, yeah. I can't say they didn't but you do realize Chaos is literally a faction made of up every faction that's been corrupted? I mean unless you whip out straight up greater demon shit everything is a copy of something. Everything Nurgle is going to be a repaint of everything zombie, etc etc.
Fuck off with your shit.
How come Chaos AI never use dragon ogres?
>>143762743
You cannot import models so far.
>>143760928
Shield do nothing in melee, they just provide a 30% chance to block missile fire, which is significant.
Units with them usually have a slightly higher melee defence rating as well, possible because they're just higher-tier tho.
All in all, unless you're planning to stand in one place and wait for the enemy to run out of ammunition, it's not worth it.
Finishing up slav campaign because I was in the middle when TWW came out and surely won't be coming back to it when I start that
And then it's this shit. Ii takes like 50 turns to get to 80% religion and now 32 turns? Are they sick in the head, like seriously, who thought this was reasonable? Fuck it, it would take like 3 hours of just clicking end turn with this shitty ai turn speed
>>143762370
>corrupted versions of normal creatures look similar to the normal creatures
Really, faggot? You don't fucking say?
>>143762718
Because you very clearly dont know much about Medieval France.
>3rd empire campaign restart
>try again to make besties with the neighbors
>trying for warham version germanic_nato.exe with empire states
>trade agreements, non-aggros and defensive alliances plus free gold from just about everyone
>turn 20 or so im about to finish off the secessionist, friends with all the frogs to the west
>end turn
>half of the other empire states fucking declare war on each other
>hocland declares war against talabecland which it had +57 diplomacy with
>stirland declares war on the dwarfs ???????????????????????
>averland breaks treaties with me to make peace with VC
>toddbringer event lowers diplomacy with middenland as well as nordland who then breaks trade with me
>had to break alliances because of conflicts
>untrustworthy
>end turn, marienburg declares war on me, assassinates franz with a level 2 warrior priest
Fuck off, fuck you I'm done. Wake me up when all the expansions are out.
>>143762718
Countries were very closely linked. Some parts of the myth were contributed by Brits such as Malory, and other parts by French writers such as Chretien.
To say it is either is disingenuous
>>143761569
I've had a necromancer who had 'fears undead'.
Poor bloke.
>>143762941
>tfw I lost on turn 3 as the Oda first time playing shogun 2
>tfw I actually saw the game over screen in a total war game.
But I didn't give up.
Has anybody managed to get diplomatic relations with Kislev going?
At this point I'm convinced theres some sort of flag that prevents you from ever getting on their good side so an Empire or Dwarf player can't ally with them and put a stop to the Chaos Invasion right away.
Kislev is down to 2 settlements, pretty much no army and they will not let me help them. Doesn't fit with the lore either.
>>143762941
If it takes you 20 turns to get rid of the secessionists I think total war is the wrong franchise for you anyways my friend.
>>143762743
I've seen people make fan rulebooks for Nippon, Cathay, Araby, and even fucking Estalia.
Nobody gives a fuck about Tilea.I do feel a little bad about wiping out the Border Princes. They weren't doing anything wrong except being allied with Tilea.
>>143762926
>shitty ai turn speed
It's fast as fuck in WH because of 64bit.
I mean, we're talking insanely fast. Throw in a SSD and battles load in a few seconds.
>>143762919
But it's not that significant in terms of Empire.
70 armor > 30% missile block when it comes to Swordsmen and Greatswords.
In terms of Chaos it just makes normal Chosen better against missiles than Chosen H or GW.
The only other factions that have a real difference between shielded or not is basically just like the empire. The bigger units without shielded have like 50 armor more, meaning they're still more durable than shielded units anyways.
>>143763060
Shit man, I remember the first time I foolishly decided to try my luck at Legendary Oda.
>Three full stacks attacking Owari by turn 3-4.
I mean, what the absolute fuck do they expect me to do against this.
>>143762718
>the eternal anglo continues his crusade to make everything about him through lies, deceit and betrayal
>>143763112
Still wish we'd see more unique units like RotDG did. Like heavy halberdiers for Averland and swordmasters for Talabheim. Shit was fucking glorious with all the units you had there.
>>143763060
It was my 3rd attempt at an Empire playthrough only to just have everything up and go to shit randomly because of wonky diplomacy. First time around I had Bastogne and another frog faction declare war on me fucking 3 turns into the campaign. Second time the dwarfs around Reikland and Marienburg made an alliance and then declared war on me while I was sieging the last secessionist stronghold.
Shits just fucked for me m8.
>>143763108
I know, it's the best thing ever after older TWs bullshit.
he is a big guy
>>143762838
>>143762156
>failing at taking the empire province
That shit is so easy its become scripted for me, even on legendary
>turn 1 move towards sec army, recruit 3 swords
>he attacks in his turn, defeat him
>turn 2 attack him near city, kill him, attack town, take down, sit in town recruit 3 swords
>turn 3 head west, recruit 3 swords
>turn 4, take next city, recruit 3 swords
>turn 5 head south
>turn 6 take final city
Thats it. Secs will die off naturally at this point. Turn 1 declare war on Chaos, turn 2 get as many non aggression packs as you can because its the only chance you'll get before the Great Power debuff kicks in. Moment you get an agent send him to the Chaos wastes and get him attacking armies, it will give you a massive diplomatic buff again.
Should avoid any wars with anyone nearby if you throw enough money and attack Chaos enough. Sometimes its worth just sending a 1 stack over to Chaos land and raiding it for even more diplomatic buffs. The more you get the less anyone around you will attack you.
>>143763161
turkroach pls
Guys lets make a discord for /twg/. We can organize mutliplayer games and eventually, become a powerful force in the total war community
>>143763060
>Turn 3 of Tokugawa
>at war with that one faction
>vassal of some other faction
>whatever I can rebel against them later
>move all my armies (1) to kill the faction I'm at war with
>State that vassalized me declares war on me
>they start on the opposite end of the other faction
>>143763207
They took a more direct route for influencing shit like that though. IE: Nuln Gunnery School that lets you shit out artillery at like rank 7 or whatever, and that one province gets that knight chapter house and stuff.
>>143763210
The randomness is what makes each campaign superfun though. One time I had Nordland siege Marienburg. They lost the siege and immediately after I declared war on Marienburg and basically took the city with no losses. Free mad dosh afterwards. It was glorious.
>>143761849
Apt since trying to occupy territory full of vampire corruption does actually turn into fantasy Vietnam, with constant attrition and vampiric rebellions for the next 50 or so turns it takes to reduce it below 50%.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Beda3kFNjo
>Anyone who doesn't run is a zombie! Anyone who does run is a well-preserved zombie!
>>143762574
>>143762684
didnt mean to quote
>>143762783
reinforcements appear on the opposite end of the map, so my reinforcements appeared behind the enemy main force, his reinforcements appeared behind mine
my army is infantry focused, the AI army is nothing but chariots, dogs and cavalry, so their 3 stacks quickly converge on my main force, while my reinforcements slowly stroll over the map and by the time they reach my main force is torn apart and the reinforcing army is exhausted
>>143760409
im playing vampires on vh and it ain't that bad
you can become best buds with the dwarves by the way, not the western ones but the eastern ones, since you war against the orcs.
>>143763112
They really need to balance things to make them more viable/more fun to use.
What the fuck is the point of Gyrocopters?
>>143763102
Tilia had whole dogs of war official thing, they were worshippers of warrior goddess Myrmidia.
>>143763249
You forgot about that orc horde that goes through Reikland.
>>143763271
It would just be filled with bad english. Like my english.
>>143763151
Defend it in a siege-battle with 10 ashigaru spearwall.
>>143762783
I think their positions are supposed to be relative to where they are on the campaign map
>>143763454
glorious ashigaru spearwall cheese
>>143763308
It'd be nice to have the specialized units for the Empire in custom battles and MP though.
That said, don't support that Russian fuck's mod until he learns what balancing is.
>>143763418
Its a small force and at worse it will raze a place
Bait it with a solo general and your main army hidden in ambush stance, or ignore it, 50% of campaign starts it wont even make it to your land because the white knights kill them.
>>143763516
What, Radious?
Things are about to get pretty spooky.
Their synced marching animation was a nice touch by CA.
>>143762932
Not an argument:^)
>>143763087
Was on legendary.
>>143762932
All the peasants in medieval France were English?
French armies used lots of longbowmen?
Was their national weapon the billhook?
French Kings used 'Dieu et mon droit' as a battle cry?
I don't understand your point.
>>143763586
No, the guy who made Rage of the Dark Gods/Beginning of the End TimesStill want Hochland Master Engineers with Repeater Rifles
When will we discuss the problematic eurocentrism of Total War games?
Why don't asian countries have an representation outside of the memeongolians?
>>143763615
Yeah, I liked that as well. I like the way they walk too, reminds me of the stop motion undead from old movies.
>>143763615
>Nice touch
I thought it was just WORK IN PROGRESS (TM) to be fixed in following patches
>>143762370
Jesus christ, god forbid TCA make them look like the actual models, right? Why dont cocksuckers like you go fuck off out of this fucking thread if you're going to put your blatantly idiotic opinions on blast that reveal you know fucking nothing about Warhammer and are only wasting the both of our time until the last moment of your misery that you finally do us all a fucking favor and kill yourself to spare us the foul burden of your retarded presence.
KILL YOURSELF
>>143763860
hey bro, you mad?
>>143763702
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691664240
>>143763724
At least use Africa as your bait for a franchise with two Japanese titles.
>>143763992
but anon, Japanese are honorary europeans
>>143763924
Yes, I am. I fucking hate NIGGERS.
>yfw
http://www.moddb.com/mods/warsword-conquest/news/release-date-announcement6
>>143764049
Keep /pol/ in /pol/ please. And dont be triggered that I fucking exposed CA for being nothing money grubbers.
>>143764125
The only thing you exposed is that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about you stupid cunt.
>HURR DURR WHY WOULD TCA MAKE GAME MODELS LOOK LIKE THE ORIGINAL MODELS DURRR
Get hit by a bus you waste of oxygen
The end game for Chaos was pretty dull and I was pretty shocked to find I'd only played 16 battles in the campaign stats. Wasn't like I was rushing either and apart from sieging standard garrisons I played most battles. Highlight was Thorgrim trying to escape via underway and I intercepted.
>>143764220
No, it means that they didnt want to actually create independent unique factions and merely copy-pasta with a new skin of paint over existing models.
>>143762370
>Hounds = copies
more work went into making Chaos Hounds and DIre Wolves respectively than all the factions of Attila combined.
Hey how do I deal with agent spam as the Empire? Those Chaos shits keep killing my generals and heroes. Which Empire agent is the best at assassinating?
>>143763785
Now that you mention it I think that's exactly what they were going for. It looks like they're all being animated by some unseen pupeteer.
On another note, what skill path is best for old Manny?
I couldn't resist getting the raise zombie spell first but his fighting skill tree looks pretty good too.
Geez the way you guys are describing Empire campaign on hard makes me wonder why I haven't had this much trouble.
Where do I go to find out the difficulty of my current campaign? I think I had it set on hard, but I could be wrong
>>143763992
>Africa: Total War
>No tech tree
>Only building is the mudhut
>Only unit is the spear chucker
>Can't have more than three without starvation occuring
>>143764247
Thorgrim no ;_;
>>143764296
No, you don't even know what the fucking models look like and its obvious nigger. Get lynched you subhuman piece of shit.
>>143764380
Hover over any public order and it'll have(or won't) a difficulty modifier.
So I saw people say vampire counts seem great at first, then they're shit?
I did see giant VC beasts just rush in and cause chaos on an army, and thanks to no routing it could sit in their continuing to cause chaos until it finally died.
>>143764429
>>143764512
What models? For a game that doesn't exist anymore? Lol
>>143764312
Witch Hunter
You seriously need one before turn 50.
