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Degenerates Edition.

Last time on /ss13g/
>anons argue over what the interrogation room is really named, and go absolutely nowhere with it
>a compilation of all the horrendous and disgusting actions players did were made by a kind anon, check it out here and make sure to shame their ckeys: http://pastebin.com/Re4Qdtup
>anons discuss and recommend changes to bus station by wildly yelling at probe to fix pointless things
>some drama about killette or whatever, i wasn't really paying attention


>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server, running a vote script to change maps at round end.
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>Forum, ban list and logs for vgstation
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans
http://game.ss13.moe/logs

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>Map renders collection: updated nightly
http://ss13.nexisonline.net/img/map-renders/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/87FjnR7M
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first for movie night
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Killete didnt do nothing
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Super hacker news, ghost can use the telescience console if you aren't using NanoUI
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>>143710497
>Want to do thing
>Someone has map priority
Feels bad man.
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>>143711482

>Map priority

Learn to unfuck your maps

If your changes are obviously much, much bigger than some shitty two-lines hotfix someone else made, contact the coders to get actual, functional map priority and put the other PR on hold

If you can't be arsed to do either, it's your problem for not being able to function socially, not ours
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>>143711854
>Make thing
>Can't get priority cause >Discuss
>Sits in discussion hell
>Someone gets fast tracked through
>Breaks mine
>Oy vey goyim this doesn't even compile
>Fix it
>Back to 2
>Kill myself
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17:11 Killette2 (usr:Honk-a-licious) || /datum/wires/airlock src=[0x210265de];action=1;cut=green
17:13 Killette2 (usr:Honk-a-licious) || /datum/wires/airlock src=[0x2102d22b];action=1;cut=green
17:13 Killette2 (usr:Honk-a-licious) || /datum/wires/airlock src=[0x2102c1e3];action=1;cut=cyan
17:13 Killette2 (usr:Honk-a-licious) || /datum/wires/airlock src=[0x2102c1ea];action=1;cut=green
17:14 Killette2 (usr:Honk-a-licious) || /datum/wires/airlock src=[0x2102c222];action=1;cut=cyan

>Ban appeal admits that he only cut 2 types of wires
>AI control
>ID scan

WOW KILLETTE HACKED DOORS, SHOCKED THEM, HUMAN HARM, RADIO SPAM. FUCKING LIAR.
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>>143712275
hi killette
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>>143712275
You cut red too senpai. What're the odds that's shock and you dindunuffin?
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>>143712275
Black and grey as well.
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>>143712275
see
>>143705710

>cutting cameras and removing the ability to open 2 of the station's doors harmlessly, deserves perma. Gotcha shitposterfam
Sorry killette, you said you cut two doors. You cut dozens.
This is more than enough grounds to be permabrigged.
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This is awful

Does Killette want banvalids that much? Why doesn't he give a shit about any other shitter? Does he have a problem with that specific AI?
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>>143713719
saltyness combined with attention whoring
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>>143713719
Don't forget, it's okay when he's running around griefing people. He can't take what he dishes out so instead he gets incredibly salty then starts shitposting everywhere.
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>>143714017
Hope you're not referring to "Griefing" in this specific situation because he was antag
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>>143714135
He does shit like this all the time in his nonantag rounds. Even validhunts.
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>>143714181

>claim the entire time it was just two doors

>Now it's two sets of doors
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http://connectcast.tv/Orzorn
Movie night. Cube is on currently, Andromeda Strain is next

>>143711854
>>143712178
>>143711482
Whats your thing?
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>>143710497
Whoever Rick is , is a fucking faggot.

>im gunna beat the shit out of u because u give away free beer
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>>143715105
reported the site to the FBI fucko
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>spend a good time extending the durand sprite
>realize it's the old one halfway
>finish it frustrated
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>>143715159
^^^
At least they never found the booze
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>>143715275
they're better anyway
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>>143715305
>wasn't even an antag
>steals bartenders shotgun
>makes it into a sawed off, and shoots people with it
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>>143715471
Sawn off is one of the best weapons in the game, up there with AEG's and caps laser. i've obliterates cults with it thanks to double tap.
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>>143715427
Old gygax isn't a VERY fast mech running at incredible hihg speed.

When building the mech, the armor is still the old one.
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>Clown hacks two different color wires over 90% of the time

>This asshole cuts EVERY SINGLE WIRE AT LEAST 10 TIMES, 240 TOTAL WIRES CUT

Definitely the clown's fault. You don't need to cut every fucking wire to fix a door that only requires 2 mendings.

http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2569&p=11703#p11703
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>>143716913
I'm more interested in who made the radio spammer, and why they aren't banned.
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>>143713224
>Black and gray were test and bolt, to bolt doors open
>>143712920
>Red was probably backup power, fuck if I remember
>>143716913
>This fucker cut every single wire over 10 times each
>>143716991
I couldn't find them in the logs. But this blame the clown shit cause it was some whore, when it was really a guy cutting more wires than minutes spent on the station really shows how big of niggers people can be when anonymous.
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>>143716913
It's not whether it's the clown's fault, it's whether the clown was publically making doors act all fucked.
That's what makes people dislike you or think you are an antag. If you do things silently and without notice, nobody will know.
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>>143717174
Nobody knew other hacked door killette don't cry victim
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>>143717174
I still blame the clown.
He did everything in his power to make it look like he was guilty. If he wasn't being such a shit, maybe those people would have been caught instead of him.
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>>143717224
Name one harmful thing about cutting AI control and ID scan wire? At most it was an inconvenience

>143717319
>Antag claims he legitimately didn't hack door post-round
>Thread keeps bashing him, saying he's lying and shocked doors
>Someone else was doing it all around
>IT'S NOT OUR FAULT WE DIDN'T KNOW, DON'T CRY VICTIM
Fuck. You. You think you can just say so much shit then play it down when you're wrong? This shouldn't even be about the door hackings, but the AI's actions. I just wanted everyone to shut the fuck up claiming I hacked doors I didn't, and now I'm proved innocent.
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>>143717556
It's not about whether it's harmful, it's about whether you were doing an incredibly visible thing at the same time as that thing was causing harm.

You basically framed yourself, killette. You have nobody to be angry at but your own dang foolishness.
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SUPER SECRET PROTIPS
If for some fucked up reason nobody set up the Cryo freezer (sometimes seen during deadpop) and you need to put someone in Cryo now, the Paramedic cryo freezers start on roundstart. Just break in and dunk the guy in there.
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>>143717641

Should people think I did it? Yes
Should the AI suspect I did it? Yes
Should the AI claim he SAW me do not only that, but radio sabotage? No???

I'm not complaining about being caught for antagonist things, I'm complaining about the AI fabricating the truth and lying to the entire crew about human harm and sabotage, just to remove clown from round.
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>>143717556
Your door hacking was key to the AI's actions. That you do not acknowledge this shows you are not arguing in good faith, which is further backed by your numerous lies about doors earlier.
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>>143717780
Sorry, you lied in order to get the AI banned.
That is a greater crime than the AI lying to get a clown permabrigged.
Especially when the AI has the excuse of being tricked, while you have none.

That is the reason the conversation is focusing on your greytiding actions and lies.
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Remember to pick your valids scapegoat early in the game, the moment anybody greytides a little bit now you can blame ANYTHING on them!
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>>143717780
Have you never played an AI?
Cutting the AI control wires looks the same as shocking the door. Especially if people start getting shocked on said doors.
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>>143717839
>Hacked two groups of doors, call it two doors because the doors are pretty fucking much side by side

>This allows the AI to frame me for things I didn't do that can remove me from the round.

>>143717970
What did I lie about? The only other doors I tampered with was to UNhack them, when the AI was bolting interrogation and trapping everyone in including me, a detective, and an officer.
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>>143717970
>Sorry, you lied in order to get the AI banned.
what the fuck did he lie about
t. not kilette
>>143718091
>Cutting the AI control wires looks the same as shocking the door.
no it fucking doesn't, i just tested it, idiot
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>>143718093
>what did I lie about?
You hacked more than two doors. You hacked more than two groups of doors. The logs that were posted are very clear on this.
That you continue to lie about this, in order to get a player banned, is banworthy.
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>>143718091
>Cut AI wires to doors the AI is being obnoxious with
>Nick Weeler is cutting 240 wires
>Nobody notices this???
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>>143718170
that ARMA wasn't actually ARMA and "ONLY TWO DOORS"
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>>143718214
Nick was sneaky about it and covered his tracks.
The clown was not.
>>143718271
don't forget the "ONLY TWO GROUPS OF DOORS"
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>>143718210

Unhacking doors is not the same as hacking doors. The AI was bolting doors and being a cunt, so I unbolted them and cut AI control so security could take me out of interrogation when needed. Security did not mind me unbolting their doors that the AI was bolting, and that is not a super sabotage crime in anybodies book.

>>143718271
>Lying about ARMA not being ARMA

Holy shit is this for real? I legitimately thought it wasn't ARMA because I didn't think ARMA could ever be such a cunt. It was a benefit of a doubt, and it was terrible to find out it was the real armor.
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>>143718372
Like the AI legitimately thought you had the radios
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>>143718372
>I made a mistake, it's fine
>The AI made a mistake, it's lying!
The AI obviously thought you were behind the radio thing, as per its admin help and every one of its actions.
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>>143718538
are you trying to equate both "mistakes" here
legitimately end yourself
i'm being completely honest here
end yourself
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>>143718372
>I hacked more than two groups of doors
So you admit to lying about hacking only two groups of doors.
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>>143718478
The AI legitimately thought I had radios? Cool

The AI saying he SAW me with radios to back up his claims? Not cool.

thinking something is true =/= seeing it happening and it being true

>>143718538

I want to know the AI's excuse for this. How did it think I had radios? Why did it say it saw me with them? Did anyone even dress up as a clown that round? If so I'd like to see the proof.

The entire time since I got out of medbay I was naked until I could strip the janitor because half my clown stuff got gibbed by a rod. The AI could not have possibly seen a clown doing shit.
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>boxbabies calling people busbabies
What has this server come to?
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>>143715764
You can saw off the barrel of a double barreled shotty in SS13? What's the tool to use?
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>>143718739
maybe the saw?
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>>143718676
You really like stretching the goalpost don't you? Fixing doors is not breaking them. I hacked the medbay and brig lobby doors to deny access. Is this what you're getting so worked up about when worse crimes were being commited that round? This is why the thread cannot be trusted, because it's such nonsense.

>>143718739

Only the bartenders shotgun, which makes it a special level of robust, surgical saw.
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>>143718695
AI here.
I saw you with the radio.
That you did not actually have a radio is as much a bafflement as it is to me. I actually had feelers put into genetic research and the message monitor to figure out HOW THE FUCK you ditched that radio and avoided security suspicion when I fucking saw you with it.
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>>143718739
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>>143718842
Not even the forum really agrees with you famalam
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>>143718842
>fixing the doors is not breaking them
Then why did you accuse nick weller in the ban thread?
Three lies, and now this.
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>>143715275
I know that feeling.
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>>143719020
Are you being ironic right now?
Are you purposefully shitposting?
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>>143718889
Look at the logs, search station bounced radio.

I never TOUCHED a radio. It is literally impossible for you to have seen me with a radio. I hope you were on hallucinogenics because there was never a moment when I held a radio.

>>143718936

The logs do however

>>143719020

You don't need to cut every single wire to fix a door. I only cut 2 wires, nick cut or mended every single wire 240 times. Your shitposting isn't doing anything but making me respond.
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>>143718739

>What do you saw off a shotgun with ?

Oh Anon
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>>143719137
The logs show nick fixed those wires.
Why are you accusing other people of shitposting while simultaneously making false accusations?
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>(MANUAL BAN) As a cyborg, took facehuggers to the mining station and ordered a cargo tech to fire extinguisher monkey cubes, then ghosted aftwards to "see what would happen"

>Killette2
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>>143719216

>This desperate to sling mud at killette2
>Not knowing he went catatonic to watch, as catatonics cannot roll for new roles

hownu.ru?

>>143719196

>Nick 'fixed' wires
>clown only cut 2 types
>Nick did fucking everything

Yeah alright. Nobody is honestly buying your shit, just other shitposters playing along.
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>>143719137
Like I said, it's baffling that you didn't have the radio.
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>>143719137
Do they even show in the logs?
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>>143719363
But anon, the image you posted illustrates him fixing every wire you cut.
Find him with a single door where he didn't do that.
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>deadpool will never kill himself
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>>143719380

Which is why I'm upset you lied and said you saw me with it.

>>143719473

Yes, station bounced radios show in logs, however I was unable to find speakers so the speaker asshole remains free until someone can catch him.

>>143719509

>Cut only cyan and green
>He cuts every color wire at least 10 times
stop shitposting please.

>>143719651

I genuinely hope not
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>>143719692
Same here
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>>143719819

He still owes me a timestamp of a $5 bill
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>>143719692
>I am baffled that you did not have the radio, I saw you with it
>that's why I'm upset you lied!
Holy shit, killette doesn't know english.
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jesus fucking christ theres a lot of wirecutting from killette
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>>143720069

Post logs, it sure doesn't add up to fucking 240 you shitposter.

>>143720054

I'm bad at english when drunk, last thread I mispelled ARMA as army, even in lowercase. Still shitposters without a country decided to jump on the 2doors meme, just because I didn't use proper sentence structure, words, whatever.
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>>143720296
Killette, you don't seem to understand why you were caught, as you think the station engineer fixing your damage is incriminating.
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>>143720396

>station engineering fixing my damage

Then why wouldn't Nick's logs be just cyan and green wires, the ones you guys spammed this and last thread?

Nick cut every color wire, that's not fixing that's fucking shit up.

All he had to do was mend my wires if he was truly fixing it, he was making things worse and it is very incriminating.
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>>143710497
LAG?
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>>143720296
im not even through the first door and youre at 31
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>>143720493
He also repaired every wire, something you did not do.
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>>143720296
Actually, can you verify in your ban request that you posted this?
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>>143720837
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>tfw have neat request
>don't know how to use github
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>>143720576

>What is testing wires at a remote door at the start of the round

>31 cuts
>Compared to 240 cuts, multiple wires being toggled far into the round

moving
goalpost
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>>143719363
Why are you referring to yourself in 3rd person, Killette?
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>>143721201
Actually, now that I got the file opened in chrome, it's showing 176 wire modifications.

I'm going through and seeing exactly how many doors you messed with, and with what wires were cut on which doors.
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>>143721201
CE arrived late.
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>>143721340

>CE arrived late
>Therefore he must take 5x as many cuts to figure out the door wires

CE has gloves and tools, I'm sure he doesn't need to cut that many wires to find out what they are

Here anon, you dropped this.
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>>143721469
This is your bro, has your name on it
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>>143721469
I dunno, I think that claiming the guy who cut and then fixed things was responsible for everything is moving the goalposts from the original point, which was the clown framed themselves.
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>>143721595
Those logs sure show the clown shocking doors huh? Same with touching those station bounced radios!

>>143721569

I don't have a brother.
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Fun fact:
>[17:33:41]SAY: ARMA-911/SomHuan (@226,241,1) As Galactic Common : the clown has caused significant damage to the station. Suggest revival with no arms.

This is what Killette posted in his ban appeal. This is likely referring to the wirecutting the clown did.

Nick weller never modified a wire that round until AFTER that.

>17:43 Liltiptop (usr:Nick Weller) || /datum/wires/camera src=[0x21030727];action=1;cut=red
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>>143721692
the logs show the clown framing himself quite visibly, yes.
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>>143721698

>wires/camera

Wrong wire retard. He did 240 airlock wires.

The AI was also blaming me for an immovable rod going through the station while I was under arrest, which is when it said I did the "damage"

Yeah, A clown can fucking plow through an entire station.

Shitpost more accurately, I'm not falling for your camera wire tricks.
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>>143721841

>Nick cut almost 100 more wires than the Clown
>The Clown mostly cut cyan and green, the most harmless wires

What happens if you ignore the cyan and green wires? Who really fucked up the doors hmm?
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>>143721872
I think the AI was blaming you for over a hundred instances of wirecutting.
Most humane way to deal with that is simply to clone you, but without hands. Don't even need to permabrig then.
I suppose the responsible thing, though, would have been to dispose of your head. AIs are allowed to dispose of corpses, you know.
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>>143721872
you're right, that was the camera wire.

Let's see how long it took him to cut an airlock wire.

>17:56 Liltiptop (usr:Nick Weller) || /datum/wires/airlock src=[0x2102c1ea];action=1;cut=green

I'm not done seeing which airlocks YOU hacked, Killette. Stand by as I copy paste dozens more lines of logs.
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>>143722014
Whoever really did it, the logs demonstrate the clown framing himself quite handily.
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>>143722056

>Half the wires I cut were to stop the AI from bolting doors
>Including bolting me in rooms with other people, who didn't want to be bolted in

Yeah alright, it's all my fault and I'm just a griefer.

>>143722184

>Undoing the AI's bolts and cutting it's wire is now sabotage too

This is why the /vg/ forums are not good for proof, just shitposting.
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>>143722276
>cutting wires
>not sabotage
You're retarded.
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>>143722276
Sorry killette, you did the equivalent of breaking into a house where a murder was committed to do graffiti.

You self framed super hard.
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>>143722276
actually, that is sabotage according to the definition of the word.
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>killette acts up and gets robusted
>this qualifies as some sort of fucking crisis because he was an antag and didn't win the round
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http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/Space_Law

>>143722276
Intentionally releasing N2O, CO2 or Plasma in a containable fashion, bolting or electrifying doors, causing hull breaches, cutting wires and blocking access to areas are all forms of Sabotage.

>cutting wires and blocking access to areas are all forms of Sabotage.

????
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>>143722987
That's killette in a nutshell basically.
He has no problem when it's him validhunting either.
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you tell me what this says
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>>143723448
That's a lotta doors
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>>143724227
Uh excuse me, you mean two doors- Two sets of doors- multiple sets of doors two next to each other. Get it right /vg/ forum tards
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>>143724357
There's actually 13 different doors there.
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>>143724418
Exactly, two sets of doors
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>>143724502
Thaaat's not right
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>>143724502
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>>143724502
Killette, if this is you, I'd like for you to own up to it in the thread.
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http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2569&p=11726#p11726
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>>143710497
>All these powergaming faggots
>hurr i gotta win
>rush bar to get shotgun
>find rubber gloves
>MUH SUNGLASSES
>MUH MEDICENE

I don't even care if Antagonists win as long as its entertaining.
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>Orchestrated a coup against the captain as HoP "for shits and gigles on a low pop round"

lift ban IMO
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>it's a "captain runs around in an atmos suit and a lot of guns being a one-man vigilante and gets himself robusted by the first enemy he encounters" episode
Actually we've been getting reruns of this episode a lot, haven't we?
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>>143726278
You gotta start somewhere.

Hey is that ick ock whats your ckey we can share more ick ock privately.
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>>143726371
sure my ckey is killette2
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>>143726371
bittervanilla
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>>143726371
Probe1
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>>143726371
probe1
Be sure to ban mee for a long time, an say it was requested, or maybe raped someone
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>>143726435
>>143726529
Nice try Probe1

>>143726614
>>143726641
You're dead now buddy. Shadowban stickyban I called the police my dad works for BYOND.
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>>143726817
pls no, i have a family!
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>>143727127
Kill your waifu goodbye
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SERIOUS QUESTION
Is killette actually a girl?
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>>143727274
Do girls have balls?
Physical, actual gonads hanging on a ballsack?
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Whats the monthly costs for the server?
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>>143727613
Futa
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>killette and his frienss are still bringing the underage shit to the thread
Stay contained in the OOC retard
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http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2570

New pomf fats volume up. If you don't read it I don't get my pomfcoins and have to subsist on banvalids for the week.
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>>143727651
100 Million Dollars

https://www.patreon.com/pomf?ty=h
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>>143728672
Thats the test server you cryptojew.
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When's a good time to learn to play harder roles like Atmos?
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>>143729034
Any time isn't a bad time but if you want quiet time then low pop is it.
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link to discord?
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>>143728480
Limited public server for a period of at least two weeks to see any improvements with player numbers. What else can be done? We're a semi-private server and like most stuff like that it will end up with a very small handful of people on nearly all the time
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>>143729301
ban.me
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Is the panic bunker on?
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>>143729034
metacoms with a mommi
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>>143729468
Personally I'm keen on the idea of submitting our server to https://www.ss13.se/servers/ so I can accurately track population week by week and just encouraging /v/ threads now and then.

There used to be ss13 threads on /v/. We had more players. There aren't now. We have less. Seems like an easy fix.
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>>143728480
>suggestions to fix wanning server traffic

Real talk, I we got like 3 big groups of major player playstyles on this server that clash hard and I've seen it wear players out and makes them leave disgruntled. I doubt its a problem that will ever get fixed because the definition of "Light RP" varies player to player here and most of those viewpoints are viewed as valid.

I'm not saying we should cater to any group, but behind the "muh trouble in terrorist town in space", and "muh /me cowers at faggot with gun", shitposting is actual frustrations between player groups that causes people to leave to other servers.
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>>143729514
It shouldn't be. If you have troublle connecting try posting here http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2311
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>>143729675
Solution: Fuck off?
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>>143729831
He's correct in identifying both a strength and a weakness of our server. We encourage all walks of life except furries who can fuck right off.

It provides very interesting experiences for players but it can also chafe people who don't get exactly what they're looking for. This isn't something I think we can really solve. The server can't be for everybody and trying to appeal to one group over another will drive away more than it will bring in.
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>>143729640
Pretty good idea.

Probably should at least encourage not enforce a minimum of RP

as >>143729675 brings up a good point


>>143729831
part of da problem IMO

>>143729986
Probe how about you get an EZ copy paste to use for /v/ threads and make a pastebin for it? People are more incline on doing something if you make it as easy as possible
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>>143729301
https://discord.gg/0yVGNrQ0hh3KX6FR
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>>143729798
I'm just trying to help a friend to get basic set up. Not meta gaming or anything, Would never do that. He's giving me a hard time with using that thread.

Trying to tell him not to use /vg/ as a learning server
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>>143729986
We don't welcome weebs either
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>>143730073
I'm unwilling to do something that would feel like formally advertising on /v/ and think it should be encouraged but not structured. This is why I have repeatedly said I will not be the only one to do it and it has to be all of us together. A thread, some drawfag stuff, and a link is all you need.

>>143730282
I learned on vg. He's fine. We haven't used the panic bunker in a while and only activate it now when we're positive a raid is occurring or another server is temporarily down and we don't want 50 new guys from hippie here.
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>tfw /tg/ is superior to vg

feels good
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>>143730393
He's a smart guy, I just don't want him getting banned here cause he messes up as a newby, plus I can't really teach him here due to meta comms. I think it's a great server and don't want him taken out of it so soon.

Not sure if it's an issue with byond, trying to help him
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>>143729831
I'm content with how the server is and its transparency personally and have no intention of fucking off. However the server has had people I've enjoyed playing with leave to the likes of Hippie and Polaris, and really there is no solution that won't isolate even more people as >>143729986 pointed out.
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>>143730393
ah he just posted
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>>143730419
>/tg/
>//
>superior to /vg/
>superior

'no'
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>>143729986
What about

>diethyl
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>>143729640
Read the new rules draft
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>>143731116
>1f. No advertising on the server, no advertising the server outside of the /vg/ server thread.

Yeah I told nuke that just wont' work. /v/ threads are older than any of us and it would be un-enforceable most of the time. What we don't want are links on reddit. That's alright but it really needs to be clarified.
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>>143731573
Was meant for >>143731317


>>143731116
Diethyl and any other member of the community is perfectly allowed to have lifestyles, fetishes, likes, dislikes, or what the fuck ever as long as they don't make it an issue on the server.
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>>143710497
>Tell the chef I'm only going to grow corn
>Hydro is full of everything, only 3 heads of corn
>Chef has a mental break down
>Demands we grow stuff besides corn
>Tell him to fuck off and get out
>Too autistic to see that we are growing more than corn
>Drag him out
>You... y.y..your attacking me
>Chef gets violent
>Shitcurity does nothing
>Defend ourselves
>Shoot chef with bean bag shotgun borrowed from bartender to defend ourselve (chef had a knife)
>Chef comes back again later
>hit him with bannanas, and tomatoes
>toss him into the disposal
>later in dead chat
>fuck you gimmick fags, and fuck your corn
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I bet the name bus station was carefully and deliberately crafted so that it looks similar enough to box station that it gets votes during map select from people who aren't paying enough attention.

Seriously, that has got to be the worst map I've ever played on.
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We're literally one and the same, oranges.
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>>143732804
I love you nick
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Any one else have problems with a character called Rick? He's never the antag, yet he fucking kills people, and starts shit every fucking round.
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Been a long time since ive played. Is the player count really dropping?

I remember I stopped because I realized only like 8 or so people out of 20+ in a round were the only ones having fun and doing cool shit and the rest was just making idle chat hoping for someone to be interesting. But being too scared to do anything different cause of risk of job ban/account ban/ general player hatred. I made one screw up and some guy already had a ban request for me on that ss13 forum.
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>>143729986
>Multiple furfag admins and coders
>Baldman himself was a furfag
>Metric boatloads of all sorts of faggotry in the library
>Many Vox players and one literal dogfucker
>"except furries"
This is so left field I don't even know where the fuck it came from
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>>143733724
Full name
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>>143733970
I don't know his account name, and only remember the first part of his name.

I'm too dumb to figure out how to figure out a players ooc name, and he was never an antag, so i never found out. He played the last two rounds as a paramedic, and atmos i think.
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>>143734072
http://game.ss13.moe/logs/2016/05-May/28-Saturday.log
Search for something he said.
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>>143731689
>any member of the community is perfectly allowed to have lifestyles, fetishes, as long as they don't make it an issue on the server.
Ban niggly WHEN
Ban danaposters WHEN
Ban majestic_mastodon WHEN
Ban killete2 WHEN
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>>143726114
I've saved a lot of people by getting a med and pizza crate then pickup a bowl from a bar chair to mortar iron to assist pizza in critical blood loss. You're surprisingly effective at fixing everything short of death and operations that need a hatchet. Those can be fixed with a quick dip into the bridge so you can welder mercy kill internal bleeders until you can drop your table and ghetto surgery for the hatch/knife though. After which, you're a couple items short of being a fully armed, highly mobile combat medic and engineer.

>>143729034
Any time. Generally, read the wiki over a lot then just ask questions, try shit, and before trying shit ask yourself how you could make this go horribly wrong and not do that. Eventually you'll have learned enough of the pieces and it all snaps together like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9hQx-SJ5Y
Then you learn to speed run a bomb lab and solve all your disputes with your slip assisted fireaxe, mosque sized grab bag of variety explosives and the hellfire of N2O laced firebombs

The rest is learning to cope with crippling disappointment
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>>143734436
>gun in external storage
10/10 would brig
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>>143733389
cuck
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>>143734237
Rick Ripley/Mikecari

Like I said, I'm not sure what his deal was. Just wanted to see if any one else had issues with him, i see a few admin warnings in there. lol
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>>143734436
Is the N2O just to fuck with people without internals or does it affect the fire in a special way?
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>>143734741
Yeah he just recently got off a head ban for being a shitty condom captain, so I wouldn't be surprised.
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>Look in the back of botany for a sec cause the airlock got shocked
>Door's open with a doctor fingering it
>It's Zenny hunt and he runs off when called out
>He fucking bolted our door cause he's griefing with wirecutters for no reason
I hate every time another problem greytider comes back.

>>143732804
It was Ican'tthinkofanameritenow. Terminal autism is a terrible curse.

I don't even know why he gives a shit. You can buy your own trays when we have 3 freakin botanists doing their thing already. You have 500u of corn oil and 50u sugar to keep whatever nice sprite food you have intact. Plus unlimited water to water it down. He has the ice cream maker for unlimited nutriment to stuff in a burger. And there's the custom recipes and goofkitchen stuff to make food out of anything.

You can be salty botany doesn't want to follow your gimmick but I don't know what he expected us to do when he came through the picket line and went full I'M YOUR BOSS GUYS YOUR GOTTA DO WHAT I SAY. YOU'RE MY SLAVES!!!
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>>143734826
ban when
I remember when we used to ban faggots for lack of robust
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>>143734675
It was a rough round. Sec got railed hard. Telesci abductions into burst fire sucks. There was a ton of poor escalation murders literally everywhere. It was pretty much post-katrina new orleans: the round.

>>143734763
Drops people without internals. If there haven't been breaches yet it's practically a get out of tased free card.
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>>143734257
When those people are making the server a worse place by bringing things we don't want into it.

This isn't tumblr no one gets banned because someone offends you.
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What do you think Probe's fetishes are?
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>>143735230
Thicc, no doubt in my mind.
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>>143733389
[19:58:50]PDA: Dante White (PDA: PDA-Dante White (Chef)) sent "I request the immediate demotuion of both the botanists for insubordination."
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>>143735312
Its killing migrants.
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>>143735472
I always wished to be autistic enough to play dorf fort. God damn.
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>>143735419
[20:03:00]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@273,250,1) As Galactic Common : They only gtrow corn
[20:03:08]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@273,250,1) As Galactic Common : And NTHING ELSE

Reading the logs is better than actually playing.
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>>143735209
>When those people are making the server a worse place by bringing things we don't want into it.
Yes, exactly.
Ban niggly's blatant crosdressing fetish clothing when? Literally injecting his fetishes into the game and it sure as fuck isn't making it a better place.
Danaposters fagging up not only the thread, but the library too. You're telling me we want that?
Literal dogfucking?
Killete posting his fucking balls in OOC? Do we want any of that? It's that not all making the server a worse place?
>>143735230
Either gets his meat off to vore, or loves insinuating it.
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>>143735419
Honestly, I'm glad it didn't come to that because if any illegal immigrants came through our border and got all hostile they'd best be successful cause otherwise their hatcheted head would be making a trip to the deathnettle pacid spraybottle.

It's a damn low rp game people play in their leisure time to have fun. Leave them the hell alone.
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>>143734257
>>143735635
WAIT THERE'S A GIRL NAMED DANA WHO PLAYS ON THIS SERVER
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>>143735635
Greytiding is the worst fetish ever. Ban all those degenerates.
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>>143735763
Probe is a girl too, silly !
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[20:07:46]ADMIN: HELP: Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Dante White): i need to ask an important question regarding escalation - heard by 3 non-AFK admins.

[20:07:53]ADMIN: PM: Dylanstrategie/(Henry Alouette)->Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Dante White): Go ahead

[20:07:56]ADMIN: HELP: Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Dante White): given these circumstances, would - heard by 3 non-AFK admins

[20:08:07]ADMIN: PM: Ch0c0latem00se/(Russell Kepplinger)->Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Dante White): sure

[20:08:08]ADMIN: HELP: Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Dante White): would i be justified in murdering the botanists - heard by 3 non-AFK admins

[20:08:15]ADMIN: PM: Ch0c0latem00se/(Russell Kepplinger)->Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Dante White): for

[20:08:17]ADMIN: PM: Dylanstrategie/(Henry Alouette)->Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Dante White): "These circumstances"

[20:08:35]ADMIN: PM: Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Dante White)->Ch0c0latem00se/(Russell Kepplinger): shooting me, and stealing my id because they wouldn't grow the shit i asked them to grow

[20:08:54]ADMIN: PM: Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Dante White)->Ch0c0latem00se/(Russell Kepplinger): and the comdom won't listen to reason despite their blatant insubordination

[20:09:16]ADMIN: PM: Ch0c0latem00se/(Russell Kepplinger)->Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Dante White): If you make them into meals you'll probably get perma'd but I wouldn't ban you for acting on that
TOPIC: "status", from:[IP CENSORED], master:, key:

[20:09:29]ADMIN: PM: Ch0c0latem00se/(Russell Kepplinger)->Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Dante White): in game, like jail

[20:09:31]ADMIN: PM: (Russell Kepplinger): i can't. THEY STOLE MY ID

[20:09:54]ADMIN: PM: Ch0c0latem00se/(Russell Kepplinger)->Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Dante White): good luck on revenge
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>>143736121
>given these circumstances, would -
>"sure"
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Also by the way, the chef was bretty cool, in a rival sort of way. I'm just posting the logs because I thought it was funny.
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>>143736282
[20:19:05]GAME: (Jacob Mugumble/(mugumbe) sent a fax titled the paper to Nanotrasen HR - contents: <span style="font-family:Verdana, sans;;color:">IAA Jacob Mugumble<BR><BR>Shortly into our shift, me and my partner have encountered an inter-departmental issue between botany and the kitchen. <BR><BR>The chef, Dante White, takes issue with the botanists producing only Corn, and took it upon himself, to encourage the botanists to do so. It seems that, without an HoP, the chef took it upon himself to solve this issue. <BR><BR>Botany responded in kind, blockading their office with a table, and cuffing Zenny hunt, who went into botany for reasons unknown. <BR><BR>As of this moment, it seems we can not come to an agreement, as we still lack an HoP, and the captain has more important things to attend to. I'm hoping I can get some more direction on where to take this investigation. <BR><BR>-Jacob Mugumble<BR></span>
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>>143736121
How can we be insubordinate to a guy who isn't our superior and can't rationalize that we're actual human beings with shit we want to do. If he didn't fly into a tard rage Me or the other guy that wasn't doing the corn gimmick probably would have made him a little of whatever he wanted

fucking zenny bolted open the chapel and our back door for no reason as a fucking medical doctor so it's not even like he needed his id. Hell, chef doesn't even need his id to work. toolbox the wall to your backroom and the windoor and you got all you need. Anyone else in service can open your shit for you and there's like 5 rounds worth of supplies already in the kitchen.

>>143736435
Did anyone ever find out how a cuffed md ended up in a barricaded botany during the first lag spike. It was twilight zone level shit.
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Is breaking the windows of the escape shuttle so that the interior is exposed to space as non-antag griff?
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>>143736282
Well it's a complicated thing. In general, if you ahelp wanting to kill a dude, they probably earned it. you vent your salt, the guy gets cloned in 6 minutes and everyone has a giggle. It's making them out of the round that's bad.
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>>143736652
yes
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>>143736652
yup, venting is. I've gotten asked a couple times if it was me when someone breached through windows I weakened since my fingers were on it.
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>>143736659
I find it hilarious because it's the bwoink version of "How did we go from THIS..."
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>>143736683
>>143736753
But why
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I'd rather play fucking taxi again.
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>>143735571
If you can handle SS13 you can definitely handle DF.
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Science was a mess that round I heard, what heppened in there?
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>join as the only doctor
>bus station
>popped lungs from the high quality shuttles all over the place
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>>143736847
Why wouldn't it be
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>>143736872
Plasma
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>>143736871
I just don't understand what I'm looking at when I open it desu.
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>>143736847
Pops lungs, kills people with low pressure, ZAS killing people, lets people get spaced, people lag out of the shuttle. etc.
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bus was a mistake
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>>143736872
griff
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What the hell is a metastation?
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>>143736952
THE map
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These are aliens.
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>mfw watching everyone get slammed into crit just for existing in the hallway near the buses
>nothing to catch people who walk out the airlock incase they missed the bus
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>>143736897
>>143736913
what's wrong with that
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[20:57:11]SAY: Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Dante White) (@227,265,1) Ghost: i shocked myself on a door trying to hack into sec so i could get revenge on those faggot botanists
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>Late arrival
>Go to station with your job on it
>Pop lung
>Go to station with medbay
>get surgery
>go back to job
>pop lung

BUS STATION
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>>143736952
Bestesterestest map with best maint, best bar, best botany, best loitering spaces, best escape, best detective's, second best brig, and worst command.
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>>143737034
the safety lattice was added to taxi for people who wander outside. I would rather have Berlin station back then this shitty Bus/taxi.
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>>143735571
Why can't you? It's not hard. You don't even need to know 80% of the game. emabrk anywhere a couple times to survey what minerals each home civ has.

Go somewhere without an aquifer or follow a step by step picture guide. Dig a hole. Dump your shit in it. Make a retracting bridge and link it.

One guy smelts the 3 squads of equipment and extra picks worth of ore you embarked with
One guy digs out a little hobbit hole in the soil then digs to lava.
One guy farms
One guy starts making stone crafts to sell
One mechanic spammin mechanics
One guy clearcuts the surface then works on carpentry shit then a billion cages
One mason gets stone doors up asap for undead prevention then works wood pot creation

In your hobbit hole you make retracting bridge airlocks to the trade depot
The rest of the fort gets a billion cage traps
Put inward facing fortifications for later marksdwarves to murderate the shit out of things

The first wave of migrants you can gear up and have them all fondle each others butts in a training program
Second you can setup your milling and cooking for the prepared food for mad dosh

First caravan order a ton of leather and wood shit so you can fill out the soft armor portion of your squads.
Smelt your junk metals and goblinite into metal bolts

If you don't know what do do with someone, put them in a marksdwarf squad and have then alternate one month hauling/non-core jobs one month training with frequent excursions to build skill.
You can also have them mine pretty much anything. Picks use mining as their weapon skill so you can make easy 20 legends a year. Have them spar once they are to up their other skills
You should be able to run the fort with <=55 civ dorfs.

Between about 110 middling skilled marksdwarves, ~30 legend regulars, a ton of cage traps, and bridge airlocks breaking groups up you have no trouble with anything

>>143736908
Use the look command and follow guides. It's weird at first but then you get it
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>>143736575
Rick dragged him in with the Chef.
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>>143737307
>cage traps
I would have never suspected you being this much of a massive casual
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>>143737054
Why even? All he needs is his meat cleaver, his soap, and some floor tiles. It's like he's never lain down street justice.
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>>143737428
He's new, might as well give him a safety net.
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>>143736908
Yes that's the big hurdle. There are many good tutorial series and guides.

I think the most beginner friendly and up to date one is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6wzjlYHL-E&list=PLGB6RkFB7ZmNbSUujzXbgNjJi_-WHTTTD

When you fire up DF its the same as when you first fired up SS13. You know nothing and it's very overwhelming. Every day you learn a little more and even years later like me you still learn new things or have areas you've never really bothered to explore.
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>>143737428
>using traps at all outside the most hellish evil embarks
>using bridges
>using danger rooms
The game took a nose dive in difficulty after 40xx there is no need for these things and it is much more enjoyable to go without them.
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>>143735571
>>143736908
>>143737528
Listen to Uncle Probe. that's a good series.
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>>143737620
I kind of wish training wasn't made as strong as it was. Essentially danger room light. Between that and the quality of invasion/sieges plummeting it ended up pretty underwhelming.
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>>143737012
And this is how you should spend your quality time with them.

On a more serious note, please stay on the topic.
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>>143737631
CLA is also a very good beginner friendly tileset.

I'd recommend not using a tileset because it fosters confusion when you go to look up a thing on the wiki and it looks totally different from what it does by default, and there's no "wiki using xyz graphics". But CLA is close and looks nice.

>>143737739
Danger rooms were a byproduct of training being worthless. The real problem is we rarely (if ever) get hit by ambushes, sieges are often weak and they seldom come. It wasn't one or the other but the double whammy of difficulty reduction that really shifted it from a struggle for survival to a simulation experience.

I really hope when scenarios and such get added some adv worldgen options are also there to make player run forts get more bullshit than usual.

>>143737767
ok i'll stop.
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>>143737767
I need help. Are you a big enough space man to be the hero I need?
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>>143737985
Well fine then.

Anyone else a bad enough dude to make a plasma tank with 30 mol or more of plasma in it at 673.15K/400C or hotter?
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>>143735571
Don't listen to these nerds
The fortress mode is an autism meme
Adventure mode is where Dwarf Fortress began and right now in the latest update it's a great time to get your adventure on
Take your time, have your key referances close by, and you'll likely take to it far better and have more fun than with the dumb dorf simulator jumping on. It'll help you learn the interface and buttons too so that when you do delve into fortress mode you wont be so lost as the game days whizz by and your dwarfs start to throw tantrums.
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>playing as a vampire
>walk into chapel to try to steal a coffin
>thought it would hurt me a little, but figured I could get out before major damage
>didn't know that it screws up your controls
>run around in circles for 3 minutes until dying
Experience really matters in this game.
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>>143738536
Even when you have experience there are still surprises. It's part of SS13s longevity. You never really know what will happen after the round begins.
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>>143738524
>Training montage
>Throw bolts 420 erryday
>Have to become a necro just to get a big enough posse that you can fight more than 200 goblins
>Can't stop, wont stop


>>143738536
Doesn't hurt to read the OP either.
>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13

All the shit is in the code and if you can use this mongolian finger painting toboggan you can read if chapel git fucked in the vampire folder
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>>143738536
Thanks for extended
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>>143738536
Funfact, make coffins from wood or use the ghetto chapel. Not sure if that's on the protected but I doubt it.
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>>143737054
>tfw he ic ooc'd with looc as a ghost to vent his salt at us
Ouch.
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>>143738991
Hell just raid the library those bookshelves are a rich source of natural woody
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post the /v/ thread
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>>143737054
>>143736121
>>143736313
Alright so walk me through this.

Near as I can tell, Corn plants well, a lot of corn and the other two plant some other shit. The chef comes in and plants a bunch of shit like he owns the place. One of the botanists gets the shotgun from the bartender cause the chef is leaving his knife out.

The extent of his communication is approximately:
[19:50:41]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@276,248,1) As Galactic Common : Fuck you, Some of us don't like corn
[19:55:08]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@261,250,1) As Galactic Common : fuck you and your corn fetish, you work for ME
[19:56:15]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@263,244,1) As Galactic Common : AI, remove the botanists from their post or I will stab them. Law 1.
[19:56:44]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@264,243,1) As Galactic Common : then cut thre power to hydroponics
[19:56:53]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@264,243,1) As Galactic Common : see if they can grow anything without light
[19:57:26]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@257,251,1) As Galactic Common : ai, do not listen to corn's orders
[19:57:39]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@241,240,1) As Galactic Common : he is a sentient corncob, not a human
[20:03:38]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@271,250,1) As Galactic Common : They work for me, they make what I want them to make
[20:03:44]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@271,250,1) As Galactic Common : If they don't want theat, they can go be greyshits
[20:04:28]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@271,248,1) As Galactic Common : You're also my subordinates
[20:04:28]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@271,248,1) As Galactic Common : You grow what I want
[20:04:48]SAY: Dante White/Icantthinkofanameritenow (@271,248,1) As Galactic Common : You knew that wasnt true when you took this job
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>>143740025
He gets beanbagged, his Id taken and himself disposaled out after he shows up in a barricaded botany after he'd previously law'd the AI into shutting off power

Then goes and dies to a door he shocks while trying to greytide into sec for stuff to murder botany in "revenge"
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Vampires actually burning in space when
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>>143740460
They should I'm not sure why they aren't if that's not the case.
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I decided to give ddr at try since I've never messed with it before. Someone had already been there and cleared it this shift I think, since all the Russians were dead.

I didn't manage to beat it. I got to the part where the "get down" sign flashed. I tried laying down on the floor with the rest function when it happened, but apparently that wasn't correct. What are you supposed to do when that happens and what do you get for beating it?
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>clean the station like good janiman
>the pomfballs are summoned
>don armor and search for them, finding two
>move back

What an interesting first round.
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>>143742092
Its a bug that needs addressed.
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>be AI
>atmospheric alerts on the minisat, where my core is
>ignore them because of a fuckhuge spider
>Power Failure, backup syste-
>black screen
>dead
wew, don't ignore alarms
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HoP from last round here. My only regret is Kina died. Poor Kina.
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