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New league hype edition

>Prophecy league information
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1663440

>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.2.4

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

>Rough mapping guide (ignore IIQ advice if it's still in there)
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1489756

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:)

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>>143617669
definitely all me

>>143617860
not me
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Return of the crab !!!
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>>143617617
i used 125 points.
i could easly take away 20points from claw/shadow/Fatal toxin for lvl80.
And bleeding/poison was pretty good for me to be rank 50 with 48hours later before aegis drop.
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FREE
R
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WHERE?
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>>143618019
thanks reddit
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>Fixed a bug where 50% of Pocked Lanternbearers were doing 16% of the damage they should 50% of the time.
poetards????
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lozii-Pgpb77D4Vk1J1clM_UT0cWz35LQ3Zv3Kmf0ug/preview?pref=2&pli=1
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>See if Cloaked in Savagery was a new talent
>the 100% life leech was always there

whydid it exist all this time and nobody bothered to play it and now people are hyping it up calling it overpowered?

I mean 15% life damage is noting and you can get godmode with vaal pact (granted its kinda far away)
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Is Saffell's Frame viable in current POE?
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>>143619309
it's worse than it was before because before mitigating physical damage wasn't as urgent as it is today
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>>143619391
I'm going to give it a try on a juggernaut block build. I think IC and crazy endurance charges might mitigate enough phys.
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>>143619309
yes
just stack a shit ton of phys mitigation elsewhere
lightning coil probably helps alot too

if anything I'm more scared of elemental damage
>>143619391
juggernaught and a shitload of armor
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>>143619309
meme item
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>>143520650
>FREE
>>143543746
>FREE
>>143544206
>free
>>143546393
>free
>>143546453
>free
>>143546567
>free
>>143546687
>free
>>143549358
>FREE
>>143555554
>free
>>143557946
>FREE
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>free
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>free
>>143578681
>free
>>143590000
>free
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>Free
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>FREE
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>F R E E
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>>143619752
delete this
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>>143620175
i can't tell what build you painted.
sc build?
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>>143619460
is attacks, so combinated physical/extra damage as elemental/poison-on-hit mods will be still hits you even with 30k armour or IC.
t. palace/shrine/precint/overgrown/village with poison on hit/vulnerabity mods(i was gladiator, close to die many times).
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>>143618724
It used to be 25% of life damage for a savage hit
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First time in two years that I haven't fap for more than 24 hours.
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>yfw this patch will be fucking nothing balance wise
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>>143621586
GGG is scared of nerfing because it causes cynicism
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>>143621667
They just nerfed drop rates and scion.
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>>143621667
>>143621757
And chaos conversion.
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>>143621757
i'm talking real nerfs not just nerfing meme builds. they nerfed literally everything before the awakening and that was a large part of the reason why it was so shit
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>>143620175
There is no resurrect at checkpoint in any lab, even shitcore.
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>>143621667

After the shitstorm that was leech nerfs, of course GGG Wants to avoid that mistake again.
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>>143622193
Im still mad over the EB change.
Old cloak builds would have fit well into the damage spikes seen in high tier maps.Whoever thought it be a great idea to change EB and force the EB/GR/ZO/MoM meme needs to be lined up and shot.
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>>143617924
I hope you let it go.
It's just a friendly orb weaver, anon.
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I forgot, is Neon based?
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>>143623431
Holy shit it's fucking running. That's amazing.
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>>143623263
fuck off neon i know you lurk here
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>>143623431
Not nerfed in 2.3, just loses some mobility.
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>>143623263
>GGG
No.
They're also the only GGG person that actually plays PoE. Goes to show a lot.
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>>143624731
RIP bottom crab.
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>>143623564
benis xDDD
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>>143624895
ECKS DEE
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>>143624128
>>143624731
>>143624895
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>>143624895
lamo @ small pp
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When do I get to vendors that sell skill gems?
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it's that time of the night, /poeg/

who got the good links (to nice builds of course)
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>>143625597
Get past Hillock.
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>>143625689
Isn't that the giant right before the first town? I'm in act 3 and haven't seen a single skill gem for sale.
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>>143625914
Wow.
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>>143625914
check the 2nd tab
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>>143625968
I've been playing for 1 day you autist my bad for over looking something

>>143626047
Thanks, I found it
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>>143626351
Actually, my "wow" wasn't for you overlooking something, but rather you managed to use that shitty first gem from the corpse to strand with ... whatever other shitty support you got all the way to Act 3.

Not saying that's super impressive or anything, but it's pretty cool.
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>>143626549
senpai you get new skills as quest rewards all the time
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>>143626686
Oh, I totally forgot about those.
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>>143626549
>>143626761
Oh, sorry I called you an autist, thought you were makin fun. I got firestorm somewhere along the way and linked it with a gem that adds lightning damage and just blasted my way through with that, don't even use any of the other ones I have found
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>>143626917
if he's in this thread he's an autist
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>>143626996
Just cause I'm home Friday night with no friends, no dates, no games to play, no books to read, no TV shows to watch, and no family to attend to on a 3-day weekend don't make me an autist ;_;.
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>>143627349
>tfw I was legitimately unaware it was Friday
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RF discharge Marauder

Going to be the biggest meme build this patch
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will be vigilant strike viable for jugg?
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>>143627531
self casting is ghey do
coc or go home
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>>143628167
yes, but
>melee splash
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>>143628273
Have they released or leaked the new ascendency tree's?

Wanna see if they fucked up Occultist


ALSO, question for those who used profane bloom (Corpse exploding when cursed) How does it interract with Abyssal cry? Does Profane proc normally or does abyssal cry ovveride it ?
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>>143628631
Occultist didn't change at all.
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>>143628631
Profane Bloom isn't even noticable. Don't bother with it. You go Occultist if you are going CI.
If you are going hybrid and taking Occultist for the +1 curse, you may as well kill yourself.
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im be juggernaut i t will be good
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I understand that when it comes to selling uniques they just have to be not complete shit and priced right but what about rares? If I'm just using premium, public tabs is it likely people will find my rares or do I need to set up a shop post for that junk?
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>>143627501
>Confused at why my roomate was still up
>Couldn't understand why the other was getting ready for work
>Ask what the fuck was happening
>It's friday
>mfw
I need to get a fuckign job.
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>>143630229
why does he wear the mask
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>>143630162
it always is, see you june 3rd
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>>143630315
UUUU
U U
U U
UUUU
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Are these fusing orientations possible on a 4 link?
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>>143630229
Why though?

Are you doing alright financially?

If so, why commit to the same weekly grind just because it's "normal"? It's total bullshit and you know it.

Disregard societal norms, play more Path of Exile.
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>>143630558
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>>143630558
>>143630765
I meant 4 sockets, sorry.
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>>143630560
Hell no, I've just been able to live off of my school loans, but I dropped out cuz college is fucking awful, so I'm in the process of finding shit, so I literally have no orietation towards what day of th week it is.
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>People pay $10+ for cosmetics

>Meanwhile I'm looking at the currency tab like a miser.

these microstransaction prices are fucked up.
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>>143631128
>freemium tabs
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>>143631128
$10-$15 are the 4 year old junk cosmetics, too.
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>>143631187

Paying 1.50$ for the ability to rename my tab is worthless bullshit.

However paying 7.50$ to store pretty every currency I'll ever get seems worthwhile.

I'll never fill it... right?
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>>143630558
No. The game considers the sockets a single straight line, in that backwards-S shape you see on 6-links. A 4-socket item is just the top part of that. It won't skip over sockets in this process. So if you number them left to right, top to bottom, 1 & 2, 2 & 4, and 3 & 4 are the only possible links in a 4 socket piece. You've drawn 1 & 3 linked in both of those, which will never happen.
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>>143631327
uh premium tabs let you use the p2w trade system

currency tab is pointless
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>>143631378
Ah, okay. Thanks. I tried looking it up in the fuse and jeweller page in the wiki but might've missed it.

Good thing I only used like 10 fuses.
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>>143631402
Currency tab saves your fucking sanity. I've done so much less god damned tab sorting in Perandus compared to previous leagues, I love it.
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>>143629364
i am goign CI Essence drain, and so with 8 point i got the 2 extra for it, hence why i asked. 10% more damage is compelling after all
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>>143631806
>CI Essence drain

nice auras lmao
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>>143631867
discipline + 2 blasphemy curses. Maybe an AA later on.
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>>143617669
you seriously couldn't update the links in OP? fucking dumb toad
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>>143631402
currency tab is QoL

not needed but comfy as fuck
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odd fap
even sleep
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>>143632368
unlucky
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>>143632368

>Not fapping in bed but not finishing to sleep relaxed and clean.
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>he doesn't enjoy sorting out his tabs
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>>143631806
>10% more
firstly, it's not more
secondly, 10% increased is shit
thirdly, ci is shit
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>>143618490
I sure hope that applies to excavation's big guy
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>>143632461
>not finishing to sleep relaxed
umm, poetards???
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>>143632368
well fucking RIP

Was gonna try

big breasts stockings tanlines monster girl snake girl x-ray cosplaying anal autofellatio

but gonna sleep now.
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>>143632884
>stockings
>snake girl
what
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>"Life leech buffs should still be addable while at full life with the ascendancy node for leech not stopping at full life. (40186)"

Where's that fucker who argued with me about this not working a few days ago?
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>Fixed a bug where Cluster Trap and Minefield were only reducing trap or mine damage respectively when they should have been reducing all damage.
>Fixed a bug where Cluster Trap and Minefield were only reducing trap or mine damage respectively when they should have been reducing all damage.
>Fixed a bug where Cluster Trap and Minefield were only reducing trap or mine damage respectively when they should have been reducing all damage.
poison trappers/miners BTFO?????????
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>>143633118
>playing mines
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>>143632785
>Update
Calm down, baddie, nobody care about your shit opinions
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We've replaced Path of Exile's audio engine. The new one not only dramatically helps with memory usage but provides many other benefits that our audio engineers will take advantage of in the future.
If you were previously playing with sound disabled for performance reasons, please strongly consider turning it back on again!
We've made substantial improvements to when and how various assets are preloaded. There should be much less stuttering that occurs when certain assets appear. For example, Rogue Exiles inside strongboxes are preloaded as they are rolled.
Game assets are now loaded in the background as you play, making loading screens faster. You can now load to the login screen in less than a second on an SSD hard drive (two seconds on a non-SSD).
Because of the memory usage improvements in 2.3.0, there should be no more Out of Memory crashes. This is especially relevant to 32-bit Windows users.

Could it be? Finally a league where exile boxes don't freeze my game for 5 seconds?
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>>143628167
Vigilant strike works this patch, you just dual blasphemy curse warlord's mark and vuln and go to town

Enduring cry is used for bosses
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>>143633358

No they modernized it so lower end computers can't run it anymore. Or they broke everything so badly you though Obsidian Entertainment was QA
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>>143633118
Where did? Are patch notes out?
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>The Lord's Labyrinth in all difficulties has been upgraded with a new gauntlet type where you push an object through the encounter.
The fuck.
Fucking shit.
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>>143634954
>yo we heard that no one likes the lab
>so we made an end-game lab gated behind RNG
>oh also all labs now have extra bullshit for you to do that's mandatory
pls give us more money :)
also ty reddit for letting us shit on the game all the time
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>>143633080
he killed himself
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>>143634954
gauntlet traps are optional, I completed one once for the challenge and that was it
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>>143634954
>tfw ywn play a version of poe again without the lab
fuck this gay earth
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>>143635346
>complaining about optional content in a f2p game
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>>143635369
>optional
>f2p
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>>143635446
good naruto reaction picture, that describes your intelligence so well
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>>143634954
>>143635089
>>143635346
>waaaaaaah waaaaaaaah i can't facetank traps on my 9k life build, labyrinth is shit, SHIT!!!!!!!!!
lmaoing @ u're lives
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>>143635089
this is the same guy that complains about powercreep then pays a high level to run normal lab for him
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labyrinth is the shittiest part of this shit game
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>>143635754
No, that would be act 4 after the aqueducts
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Who 2.3 #musclewizard here?

>ARC 75k tooltip dps with wrath(90k with titziri flask) plus 42% penetration
>7000ish life
>3% life/mana leech
>whenever I take 1000 damage or more I go full retard and leech 75,000life per second(well, more like 1,400 cause of cap)

Was also considering gimping a bit of my offense nodes(and ditching regen nodes) and going spark + pierce nodes + acrobatic + vaal pact. That way I gain 67% RNG ehp and savage hit means I'm godmode and can't die at all outside of a 7500+ single hit.

Or go self cast discharge juggernaut, but fuck that, it's cancerous ziggyD-reddit tier memeing.
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>https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1665846/page/1
Why is he doing it like this?
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>>143635754
nothing you can't solve by paying a better player to do it for you
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>>143635893
he always does this. typing up patch notes is the hardest part of his job so he has to make a big deal out of it
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>>143635880
I swear I saw this tree before, node for node, did you just copy paste it from reddit?
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>>143635893
JUST FUCKING POST THEM YOU FUCKING KEK
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>>143636018

im the OP

needed upvotes from that cancerboard or else i might get enough downvotes to be soft-banned/post timer locked globally.
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Which has the better clearspeed, Bladefall or Blade Vortex?
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>>143635880
pretty sure nowhere in your master plan did you account for reflect which is not considered a hit, thus can never proc cloaked in savagery

enjoy dying to a bunch of t1 map skeletons because you cast a chaining, uninterruptible "muh 75k dps" arc
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>>143636228
theorically, that would be blade vortex since you clear at whirling blades speed
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>>143636228
necro BV
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reminder they broke poison AGAIN and if you arent playing a crit phys spell assassin build you don't know shit about anything
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>>143636550
reminder if you can't think for yourself and make your own builds, you're a retarded sheep who belongs on reddit
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>>143636295

>can't do reflect map

FUCK THERES A 1.7% CHANCE I MUST REROLL MY MAP!

CALL THE POLICE
CALL THE ARMY
CALL THE NAVY
CALL MY MOMMY

kill yourself retard.
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>>143636420
Yeah but you have to cast the things too.
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>>143636642
>it's another conditionally good build that can't run half of map mods
might as well roll RF, retard
even a single rare reflect will rape your ass anyway
so much for being a "tanky" caster
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>>143636550
>broke poison AGAIN
How so?
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>>143636767
>maps have 2 mods
kek
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>>143636773
assassin poison is retarded, they took a decent build (bino's reave) and DOUBLED IT.
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Okay poeg you HAVE to make a Duelist. What do you make? Anything not-shit or interesting or is Duelist just basic melee?
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>>143636825
so you're a worse inquisitor whose main defensive strategy is to get hit hard and pray you can leech damage back

nice build m8 i r8 it 8/8
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>>143636959
I'm not even that guy. But saying that 1 reflect is "half of the map mods" is just dumb as shit.
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>>143636767

>maps have like 60+ mods
>elem reflect is one of the rarest, at not even 2% proc rate, way lower on maps below t12
>t-t-t-too much! i c-c-c-can't spend a chaos orb to reroll once every 50-80 maps!!!


yeah kill yourself scrubber.
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>>143636882
>poison without double dipping
kek
you know nothing
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>>143636901
2h mace sunder slayer

20% aoe from tree + 40% from ascendancy + 20% from carcass jack + 39% from gem + 6% from mace implicit = mad overlapping aoes
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>>143637028
it's almost as if everyone rolled chaos in 2.2 because it bypasses any map mod crippling elemental builds :^)

things you can't run:
ele ref
min max (single reflect rare rapes your ass)

thing that cripple your dps:
ee
lightning res
immunity to status ailments

at least you got 7k life as caster, never mind it's not even that impressive when you got literally nothing else going for you

should be good enough for those mid tier yellow maps though :^)
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>>143637051
>what is conc effect, the most powerful double-dipping gem in the game
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>>143637258

>min max (single reflect rare rapes your ass)

Good job playing with 3000 life you shitkid.


>ee

Big fucking deal? you think 25% lightning resistance does shit when tier 15 rare golems just barely have 100k hp and I have 75k dps and 42% pen to begin with?
>lightning res

Again, who gives a shit?

>immunity to status ailments

I don't shock with this build, not that I need it against rares and not that it will apply to 2-3mil health mobs like uber/ambrius/malachai/etc anyway.

>it's almost as if everyone rolled chaos in 2.2 because it bypasses any map mod crippling elemental builds :^)

spot the ziggyD follower.
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>>143637258
stop it m8, it's embarassing
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What's a strong skill you can build around that is not dependant on items?

No flameblast.
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>>143637028
>this much stupidity and edge
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>>143637837
cucklone
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>>143637876
>First Hit deals 50% less Damage
nice build
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>>143637872

>get ousted as a fucking retard that thinks having to reroll one mod that procs less than 2% of the time is too much
>yy-y--you're STUPID!! here's a pic as well! OWNED!!!
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>>143636901
Duelist as anything other than attack would be pretty shitty, if that's what you meant. Nothing much other than melee bow builds. If you really want a meme duelist, maybe a blade vortex using the 40% aoe, and permanently leech/50%phys reflect im slayer? Wouldn't be good and its fucking awful to path but thata the only way I could see not attack duelist working.
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>>143637963
fuck off you obnoxious shitter, you're shit and don't know shit about shit
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>>143637640
ee, 80 lightning res (red map mod) will straight up give a monster 105 light res + their base res
but at least you got 42% pen :^)

75k dps is decent in ideal situations, aka magic maps where you don't have to worry about actual mods that actual end game viable builds account for :^)

but hey, who cares about red maps viability when they promised changes to end game exp, surely you can keep grinding those gorges forever :^)

>reflect and minmax are totally uncommon map mods I can just throw a chaos at them lol
spot the dried lake farmer
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>>143637640
>tier 15 rare golems just barely have 100k hp
what is enfeeble, temp chains, monster life?
what are extra life nemesis rares?
what are extra life lightning resistant bosses?

sure, it doesn't take much to kill trash in a white t15 map, but that's not really what a good build should be aiming for, because a good build would be aiming for sustaining those maps.
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>>143638065

>75k dps (+15k chaos on flask use)
>42% penetration means mobs can only have 33% resistance no matter how high they can try to stack it
>50k effective dps unflasked
>can't do maps
>rare tier 14 GOLEMS have 100k, rares 50-60
>normal mobs dont even break 20-25k
>50k dps can't speed clear it


Aww look at the unranked, no 100, no demigod, no alternate art shitter, he's trying so hard to be cool and contrarian!
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>>143637969
Yeah, seems that way. Planning on going EA with Duelist anyway. Isn't fantastic but it's hopefully solid enough so I don't die with it.

Speaking of EA, am I missing out of much if I go RT, no EE and no Elemental Overload? They don't seem worth it, especially considering the pathing points.
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>>143638292


>running cores
>sustaining
>hitting 100

I think you need to learn how to play this game if you think running maps outside of faceroll easily sustainable gorge, lake, plateau, springs, shipyards and waterways, even academy is optimal.

Not that it can't easily do core or anything, but anyone with half a brain would just sell their t14/t15 and buy a ton of t10-t11s.
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>>143637963
Even if an affix only has a 2% chance to roll by itself, that certainly doesn't mean you only have 2% of your maps with 5+ affixes (aka any map t10-11+ that should be alched) with that roll. Are you retarded? You fail at math 101. In a 6-mod map, you'd have a 0.98^6 ~= 88% chance to not roll reflect. From game experience, this is certainly NOT the case, and you're closer to 66%. So a third of maps you roll will require another chaos, and a third of those will require another, and so on.
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>>143638621
reflect or minmax*
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>>143638494
You're the one who brought up the t15 trash example, retard. You're not going anywhere near t15 in the first place running your shit, easy, no pack size yellow maps.
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guys, i don't want to play ed but i can't come up with another build
pls post meme builds so i can kill myself
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>>143638765

I can 2 second kill t15 GOLEM rares with 150% lightning mod/whatever, and a fraction of a second for regulars/rares.

Now put this in a t10-t12 situation from non golem mobs.

Yeah I know using your brain hurts cause you're a 90 iq non-ranker shitcore, but you sometimes have to think a little and take things at more than just face value.
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>>143638859
I'm not a furfag in any way but damn I would smash dat
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>>143638298
>42% penetration means mobs can only have 33% resistance no matter how high they can try to stack it
Also means 33% resistance no matter how hard you try to lower it. That 75k just became 50k. Not so good anymore, eh?
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>>143638859
i'd still fuck her in the cloaca
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delete shitcore
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>>143635880
Seems fun, what kind of links for arc? It also goes berserker, right?
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>>143638621
i vaal all my maps t12+ for +1 tier or 170+ quant which means i have to do -max reflect and any other smorgasbord of mods and so i need a build that can handle them. this obviously limits my options but i don't care. chaos is simply the best right now for farming endgame HC and building/sustaining a high level map pool
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>>143638874
ANY build can clear trash in t10-t12 maps, provided the mods are easy and don't gimp your damage... which most of the time won't be the case. You're reasoning from a white map baseline assumption. That's fucking retarded, and completely disregarding ANY map mod lowering your damage, including but not limited to:

EE
Lightning resistance
Enfeeble
Temp Chains
Hexproof if you run ele curses
heck, even Totems will lower your clear speed because you have no good way to deal with Allies cannot die totems

But yeah your build is good. In white t9s. Nothing an Inquisitor, Elementalist or Assassin wouldn't outperform easily.
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>>143639129

>heck, even Totems will lower your clear speed because you have no good way to deal with Allies cannot die totems

You know you can aim, right?

these softcore fucktards. mother fucking hell.

>Enfeeble
>Temp Chains

Thanks for reminding me that my build suffers from being slowed and losing offensive power.

I'll go chaos or whatever the fuck you're preaching so my chaos damage can ignore being slow and having my offense dampened.

fucking shitcrows.
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>they're STILL responding to dumb catposter
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>>143638494
You're not going to sustain t11s+ easily by avoiding 2-3 map mods every time. Because any experienced player knows map sustaining cares about one thing and one thing only: pack size. So really, the question is not

"what is the probability I don't roll reflect/minmax/any map mod my shit build can't run?"

but

"what is the probability I roll pack size AND NOT reflect/minmax/any map mod my shit build can't run?"

Not being able to run a common map mod gimps your map sustain ability SEVERELY. It's just not just not being able to run no regen, reflect is very common and so is minmax (coincidentally also a pack size mod).
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>>143639379

>reroll elemental reflect
>not even 2% proc rate
>reroll TONS of map mods

Mate, you're just trying so hard it's getting real sad.
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>>143639372
dumb catposter is playing rust
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>>143639468
I speak from game experience. I have a healthy pool of t13-14s in PHC I can't be bothered to run because I stopped playing months ago. I certainly didn't get there by avoiding 3 map mods every time, or I'd be a lot poorer by the end. Where are your credentials? Can you back up you claims? I can. Because I didn't run a shit build needing to reroll maps. I rolled for pack size, not for "pack size and please not reflect please mommy that mod is too hard."
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>>143639379
>tfw poison bladefall miner master race that doesn't have to give a shit about any of this and can melt whatever map I want
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>>143639547
I thought he was playing warframe?
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>>143639623
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>>143639675
More like CROWen
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>>143639592
that's not how pupils work
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>wasting your time with poor man's Diablo
LMAO
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>>143639581

>3 map mods
>3 map mods
>3 map mods

why are you trying so hard to be a fucking retard?

ele reflect doesnt count as 3 map mods and is one of the rarer ones, especially on a t11.

Oh nvm he's one of those

>i spent 2-3x more money rerolling that extra 20% pack size than the value of the map+4 chisels +alch itself!

>perandus
>MONTHS ago (months?)
>couldn't be bothered
>but i got it
>totally

no red flags.
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>>143639830
>playing video games
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>>143639830
>wasting your time being alive
LMAO
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>>143639832
>he needs more than 1 month to achieve everything he wants to achieve in a league
found the shitter
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New passive trees are out. What builds will 2.3 bring?
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>>143640132
...
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>>143639832
Yeah I played for the first month of Perandus, why would I really bother past that point? Did YOU ever play Perandus?

Maybe you're too out of touch with the game and that's why you're assuming shit without any actual recent game experience to back it up. Maybe that's why you assume pack size is not important for map sustain.

Either way, if you rolled your maps the way I did, you'd be 20-30c poorer by the end of each day, so don't even try to argue I somehow wasted currency rolling maps when I earned a map pool you probably never got to.

Picture related. Certainly doesn't look like "2%" of maps, now does it?
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>>143640132
Shield charge facebreakers for sure. I've always wanted to do shield charge, but up until now the only way to make it "viable" was having to do meme shit like elemental prolif (which will be partially rebuffed) or throw 20 exalts at it.
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>>143640367

>your build CANNOT DO EE/RESIST/-RES CAUSE I SAID SO!

you are literally a shitter, you're not even trying.
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>>143640553
2 map mods that give your build trouble (EE and minmax) are also ones that give pack size, and you can't roll pack size and somehow avoid reflect forever, and not 98% of the time. You're clueless and a theorycrafter, not an actual player. Not highlighted in that picture: monster life, boss life, enfeeble, and many other mods crippling your shit Berserker caster build.
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I don't understand this

After +10% of maximum Life per second to maximum Life Leech rate
100% increased Life Leeched per second

So does it mean it's (20+10) x2 = 60% life leeched per second? or something different?
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>>143640654

>ee
>25% resist
>trouble

Yeah if I did 15k tooltip elemental DPS like your shitter character that you gave up on.

>-res
>on a t11-t12 map
>dangerous

I have more than 3000 hp, something your build doesn't have hence why you think it's a must-reroll.
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>>143640747
How exactly did I get to that kind of map pool by running a 15k dps 3k life character? You're the one sounding desperate now. I don't need build advice because I know from past experience what is viable end game. You don't.

Even if you only consider ele ref as your only impossible mad mod, that's still 9 maps out of 73 in that >>143640367 picture.
9/73 = 12%. Still going to hide behind your pathetic "but it only rolls 2% of the time!" argument? If you cannot roll reflect, your build is shit, period.
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reminder there is a big difference between 'viable' and 'good'
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>>143641073
Yeah no shit sherlock
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>>143641073
Viable: not cockblocked by a mod rolling 10-15% of the time and cucked by other mods rolling 20-25% of the time.

A build that cannot run reflect is not end game viable, unless you're an RMT autist with an infinite supply of chaos.
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>>143640919

d2jsp. judging by how bad you and your arguements are.

>73 maps is an accurate sample size for a 2% rolled mod (datamined on the twdb)

keep going mate, keep going.

show me 9 out of 73 have ele reflect, cmon.

>he's gonna fucking chaos spam them to prove he wasn't lying

ahahha
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>>143641398
2% chance of rolling it once, maybe - but you're not rolling a single prefix in a 3-4 prefix map, you fucking tool.
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>>143640705
This the relevant part of the poe wiki you need to read

>A Leech instance is calculated by taking a percent of the damage done in each hit according to the #% Damage Leeched as Life (or Mana) stat then healing the character up by that amount, the speed in which a instance of leech heals character is specified by the leech recovery rate, the default leech recovery rate is 2% of the character's max health per second, which can be increased by #% increased (or reduced) Life/Mana Leeched per second modifiers. There is a maximum amount of leech recovery rate per second which is by default 20% of maximum health, this can be increased by #% of maximum Life/Mana per second to maximum Life/Mana Leech rate modifiers

So each leech instance heals you for a default of 2% of your life per second, which slayer doubles to 4%

It means you need to be hitting an enemy 5 times before your leech runs out, or hitting 5 different enemies, to hit the default % of max life leech per second cap of 20%

But slayer also increased that cap, so you need to hit an enemy 7.5 times to reach the cap, or 7.5 different enemies

GGG changed it all to make leeching against single targets hard, as you have to hit them a lot of times to get enough instances of leech to reach the maximum life leech rate cap, whereas something like earthquake could easily hit 10 monsters which makes you hit the cap instantly with no modifiers to leech at all

>I played slayer in the 2wpdhcfb. I spent far too long trying to figure out why my leech absolutely sucked ass after I died to a single warband dude
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>two hours later the autists are STILL going at it
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>>143641398
>You bought 73 red maps and chaos spammed them just for the eventuality of proving me wrong 2 months later
Has anyone ever been more in denial than you?
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>>143641469

>you will ALWAYS triple roll prefixes.

you get either 1,2 or 3.

so averaged 2 rolls of under 2% chance. big fuckin woop lol.

one reroll out of like 40 maps, g fucken g nigga.
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>>143641706
You're still not accounting for pack size.

When your strategy is "roll until I don't hit reflect", it really should be "roll until I get pack size AND NOT reflect."
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hello and what's going on in here
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>>143641967
shut the fuck uppercut
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>>143641967
45 people are watching 2 autists argue about a build
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>>143641760

> i will exalt a map worth 20 chaos to get that extra 10%
>m-muh meme size!
>gotta fucken reroll spam nigga, spending 2-3x more money for that extra 10% is worth it! as opposed to running 2-3 more identical maps with slightly less %

good math skills . Explains why he thinks 75k dps and 43% penetration apparently has great difficulty vs tier 11 mobs with 25% resist via EE.
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>>143641518
ehhh if they are so careful about making leech balanced why did they make Serker so retarded?

now looking at the builds I have no choice but to go zerker
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>>143642091
Spoken like someone who's never sustained above t12. You're a shitter, and even worse, a shitter in denial.
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>>143642148
>>143642148
>exalting maps
dumb shit
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>Oro's Flicker with Zerker
>Absolutely disgusting amount of damage
>Only downside lategame was not leeching enough/Oneshot
>75% attackspeed from ascendancy alone
>You literally can't die from 100% leech and vaal + flicker

With anything above 6k hp, what's there to kill Oro's flicker with the new Zerker?

This looks so fucking broken especially with the new burn item
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>>143642146
Serker is only retarded with vaal pact though, it'll kill a bunch of people who are expecting to leech like 20% of their hp per second but only end up leeching 2%
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>>143642303
also
>2 second enduring cry
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>>143642303
Oneshots will still kill you

Getting frozen, I guess?

Temp chains map with chilled ground and a temp chain casting sea witch that hinders you and has a slowing aura, while igna phoenix stands nearby?

Does Bear Trap stop flicker strike?
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OMG DID THEY LEGACY VOLTS!?!?!!?!??!
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>>143642524
Bear Trap does momentarily but you spin right away (Flicker is designed as a way to escape bear trap, funny enough kek)

I guess investing points into the tank side of tree will still give good damage since 80% increased damage + 75% increased attackspeed + taming / emberwake later on

I might start this out Cyclone first though

I'm kinda scared trying flicker on hc though, should I just do vortex/cyclone zerker on hc
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>>143619752
You are the only reason I still come to this shit thread.
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>>143642836
i bet freeposter is cute irl
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How does poeg feel about older women
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>>143635893
>requesting access with the note of CAW CAW CAW
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>>143643091
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>>143642710
I'd probably do cyclone on hc, but flicker does sound like it would be fun with this

How do you even build for Oro's flicker though?
oro's 20%
flammability 14%
doryani's 10%
tree 10%
taming+emberwake 10%

That enough ignite with a tree like this http://poeurl.com/DN1 ?
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>>143642638
no
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>>143643229
I stuck with chance to ignite since Flicker doesnt have that many support gems to utilitize (also we won't be needing BM/Leech here, ascendancy gives that)

those are all good, also gems come with chance to ignite while you look for stuff like increased attackspeed

i'm gonna start builidng the passive tree now
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>>143643091
how the fuck do i read this
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>>143643835
right to left
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>>143643775
I suppose with Chance to Ignite on your links you don't even need taming + emberwake, you'd hit 100% chance and could use not expensive as fuck rings

flicker splash multi CtI fire pen wed, seems like it'd be OP
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>>143644142
yeah Oro's Flicker has been a strong build previously, but the problem alwyas had been the uncontrollable nature of Flicker + reflect + porcupines, however with 100% leech you can literally just eat through everything unless you desync hard
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>>143644225
Or until your net lags, or you crash, I guess. Inherently has more risk than every other build in that regard
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>>143644357
>not having a perfect pc and internet
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If you die in HC you die IRL.
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How do I really abuse the 40% more damage from berserker?

Atziri's disfavour for bleed double dipping comes to mind, which would work well with EQ.

Anything else I can double-dip? Poison doesn't seem great due to Less Duration, but what about ignite double-dip? Is there an easy way to ignite outside of crit?
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>>143644925
20/20 fireball has 49% chance to ignite by itself and works with all the double dipping modifiers
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>>143644631
hell yeah
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>>143645034
I meant adding ignite to atziri's disfavor EQ
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>>143644925
>10% inc damage taken
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>mfw i've played my build for two months using wrong ascendancy passives

"oops"
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>>143645261
based retard
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>>143645469
too bad i can't do shit with all this extra deeps, already at lv96 and the league is pretty much done
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Name a single build for which Ascendant is now the optimal class and not a watered down version of another class' ascendancy
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>>143645775
Life ED
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>turn scion into a man-hating feminist
>buff her to OP fotm status

fucking SJWs
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Name a single HC build that isn't 8k life / Off screen / 50k ES / permafreeze pussy build

Face it HCucks, you guys literally are killing the game, POE is about build diversity and all you cucks do is play EQ 80k life full block build and go XDDDIM SO HARDCORE!!! that's not being good, that's artificial difficulty
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>>143646049
Either Occultist (even life-based or hybrid) or Trickster are better, more defensive, more damage and it's not like they can't get 200% life from the tree either.
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