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Visual Novel General #1099

READ THE FOLLOWING, THIS IS IMPORTANT

>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:

1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Read the wiki below
4. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
http://visual-novels-general.wikia.com/wiki/

>Need a novel with a specific element?
http://vndb.org/g

>Visual Novel Translation Status
https://warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&search_tripcode=%21%21UcDDlzwANFs&search_op=op

>Download Links:
http://pastebin.com/U7HUj0fk/

Previous threads:
>>143456662
http://pastebin.com/zeiYgLrs/

This general is for the discussion of Japanese visual novels.

Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.
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Official /vn/ Discord:
https://discord.gg/0TDy2odjLmw7DooR
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Nth for adorable fairies.
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>>143594248
Why didn't you save her?
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>>143594379
It isn't affiliated with /vn/ in anyway. Only bedwetting JOP redditfags go there.
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>>143594436
What other VNs have girls like her? She was a mega qt
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>>143594550
>It isn't affiliated with /vn/ in anyway.
Are you dumb? It says "official /vn/ discord" right there.
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good job op
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>>143594550
Just report and ignore.
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>>143594370
It's been too long so I don't remember the details that well, especially on her path. Either way, it's a pretty short game so it's worth picking up.
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Why is the discord so much better than /vn/?
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I installed Shiny Days and the patches including restore patch, yet when I go through the Manami route it still corrupts my save making the game unplayable, is this still not fixed?
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>>143594852
because it's populated by reddit intellectuals instead of /vng/ moebuta
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>>143595234
I think those who are against H/moe just haven't realized the duality of human nature, which is reasonable for those enraptured by literature. When one has an experience as powerful as some VNs can provide, their eyes sparkle and their mind is consumed by the idea that THIS is it, THIS experience is the peak of the human existence, THIS is why I live THIS is why I read THIS is it! That's very all-consuming. I think we've all felt it. It's powerful.

The problem is just that some people aren't ready for it, and it blinds them to human duality. They think that sex and beauty can't coexist. There are blinding peaks of beauty atop the mount of literary VNs, and yes, sex seems base and barbaric in comparison. It seems ridiculous that they coexist, that they do coexist. However, in truth, they go hand in hand, no matter how ridiculous it seems. Someone who spends hours fapping to huge-titted naked ladies in moege is no less enlightened than one who spends spends hours poring over the philosophical implications of X scene in Y novel.

Indeed, they are often the same person. Look no further than James Joyce writing erotic fart letters to his wife in between chapters of Ulysses and Finnegan's Wake. Sex and beauty coexist in the mind of a human, in the human experience. There is nothing contradictory about fapping and contemplating the divine. There is no need to consider yourself about sex. That's as silly as considering yourself above eating, or sleeping. It's a fundamental aspect of humanity, much as what's described in literature is.

In short, it can be tempting to belittle sex upon undergoing a profound experience while reading a VN. It can be tempting to consider it the outlet of a fool. But in truth, sex is important. It's a part of humanity. It peacefully coexists with beauty and profundity. You are no less a scholar for vigorously fapping to cowtits than you are for sleeping 8 hours a day and eating dead animal flesh. Fap on, bros.
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>>143595479
t. moeshitter
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Oh shi
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>I played visual novels for the plot
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half siblings are shit
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>>143594561
Does Konomi from Princess Evangile count?
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>>143594436
adorable druggies*
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>>143595753
>I play visual novels
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>>143595938
Fuck off with this cunt.
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>>143595938
Best girls never get a route... And I'm talking about Tamie. Tamiebros WW@?
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>>143596319
Princess Evangile: W Happiness
Translation: 50%
Editing: 22.2%

Soon my friend, soon...
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>I was looking down on a corpse
>My own corpse.

FUCKING RADICAL, KAMIGE OF THE CENTURY
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>>143596496
Whoa....
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>>143594248
cutest smiles
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Play Fata Morgana

Y/N?
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Let's make /vn/ a Yuritopia!
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>>143597089
No, it's a kusoge
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>>143597089
Yes, it's a kamige.
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>>143597146
But I'm not a girl
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I'm really ashamed my 4th VN ever played is Starless. I'm not even reading the story.
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>>143596458
god dammit i wish they would hurry it the fuck up. I have money with their name on it as soon as it releases.
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>>143597225
>I'm not even reading the story.
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>>143597225
I read every bit of it. It's a good thing you're not doing it, you'll just be that much madder at the game. Like, I uninstalled it and then installed it again after one month due to my autism and having to finish every VN I pick up but the fact that I uninstalled it should speak for itself. Just enjoy the CGs and fap where possible, if it is possible for you to fap to >starless
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>>143597225
the first VN I played was Bible Black and third was Discipline second was katawa shoujo
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I can't be the only one who started out with Three Sisters' Story and Paradise Heights, right?
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>>143597089
Do it, it's pretty amazing.
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>>143597217
Get out.
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>>143597608
My firsts were Season of the Sakura, True Love and Nocturnal Illusion.

So basically the same thing.
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>>143597813
Fuck you Reo you will never know my pain
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Apparently Kyonyuu Fantasy (Funbag Fantasy) is already 100% translated and edited
https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/736317902333317120
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Eroge is art.
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>>143598750
sekai could learn from them
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>>143598507
True Love was up there for me too, I got to SotS later though. Never did Nocturnal Illusion.
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>>143598750
ps. I really hope this means MG is doing the same tactics SP has been doing for years (Picking up complete fantranslations and releasing them)
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>>143598754

Art is an explosion.
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>>143598871
MG has also been doing this for years
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>>143598871

They did that with minori, MG acted as the middleman between NNL and minori. eden* was fully translated years before it was released
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>>143594248
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>>143599039
>>143599279
That's good, then.
Because MG doing it means the game will actually get released in time.
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>>143599317
Goddammit I really need to play that game.
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>>143599317
>Nn... Kusu.

...What? English, bitch.
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>>143599516
Kusu is the SFX for giggling. Nn is as you imagine it.
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>>143599420
Yes you do.
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>>143599317
umi a shit

post shiori
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>>143599317
>>143599746
One day, probably three years down the line, I'll re-read umi's route because by then I'll hopefully have forgotten.

Impeccable memory a shit. I'm going to run out of innocent love eventually and then where the hell will I be.
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>>143599950
Time to learn Japanese so you can live in the wonderful world of untranslated moeges.
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>>143599950
>I'm going to run out of innocent love eventually
There's like 2-3 new moege minimum a month, not including nukige cum moege
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What do words like moege, kusoge and kamige mean
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>>143600149

moe + game = moege
kuso (shit) + game = kusoge
kami (godly) + game = kamige
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>>143600149
If a game is called a "moege", make sure you play it as soon as you can.
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>>143600149
Moe game, Shit(-tier) game and God(-tier) game
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>>143600149
moege and kusoge mean it's shit
kamige means it's good
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>>143600263
Rise is shit though.
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>>143600104
One day. But not anytime soon.

>>143600120
I'm a picky fucker. But it seems that VNs as of late are growing in number that I'd read.
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That new yuri thing that SP announced today doesn't look half bad

https://twitter.com/CosmillicaJP/status/714831463451987973

At least the sex's not as lame as gay ghosts, of course that means the Steam version won't be worth it.
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>>143600356
>moege and kusoge mean it's shit
Why have two words for the same thing?
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Fata Morgana is actually pretty good. Now I feel bad for shitposting about it.
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>>143600531
>I'm a picky fucker.
How so
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>>143600783
I don't know ask a thesaurus you dumb idiot retard
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>>143600820
I feel bad for pirating it.
I'm still not going to buy it.
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>>143600550
>"Does Western yuri-fans expect to this Lesbian Road VN?"
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>>143600820
>no h
>good
go back to >>>/r/eddit
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Is Ayaka's path in Princess Evangile worth playing? It's the only one I have left.
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>>143601236
Her route was the best one. She's also best girl.
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>>143601236
They were all good. Some better than others, but I really liked all the girls.

Rise still best girl.
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>>143601223
Funny meme
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>>143601398
Rise is shit, m8.
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>>143601223
>no voice
even worse
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>>143600839
Secondhand embarassment shot most of the anime I used to watch. Makes it hard to go into some romance VNs without choking to death,
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How can I find a girl like Asuho?
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>>143601673
To be honest the kind of love expressed in visual novels doesn't exist in reality. In the games, love is real. The author wills a world into reality wherein love and honest affection is real. In its attempt to be real, it surpasses the original, and indeed BECOMES the original. The original, in our world, is in fact the sham. We wrote poetry to represent the love we felt. We read the poetry and created in ideal love. But, in reality, there is nothing but chemicals and dopamine. True love is not real. It's an idealized emotion no one will ever feel. However, VNs are different. The girls in VNs truly love you, for it exists in their reality. There is no need to worry about finding an equivalent in real life. It doesn't exist. No one will love you in real life, because love doesn't exist. It's time to grow wings and fly into the arms of anime girls, the only beings who will ever truly hold love for you.
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>>143601570
>>143601409
Not a meme, no voice and no h is like I'm reading a book. Why bother
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>>143601752
You don't read books?
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>>143601752
>is like I'm reading a book
It's not.
Are you retarded?
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>>143601835
Sorry, a picture book. Can you please leave now?
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>>143601236
It's ok. It has the most touching ending, but jesus some of the drama was awful.
Beginning of her route starts out good.
Middle has shitty drama.
Ending is decent.

The mommy/daddy issues were turned up to 11 in her route and since I did hers last I was really starting to get tired of it.
Also her H cg were surprisingly mediocre. They recycled Rise's hot shower scene albeit at a worse angle.

Good girl. Ok route.
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>>143601752
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>>143601835
>>143601806
>>143602061
If I wanted to read a book I would read a book because they're going to be better than any visual novel.

Visual novels need h scenes or voices to make it worthwhile.
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>>143602171
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>>143602171
>>/book/
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>>143602171
>>>/lit/

I'm that faggot with a library that dates back to the 70s and I think your opinion is shit.

I haven't even read fata morgana but I could give less than a shit. Whatever makes folks happy.
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>>143602171
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>>143602481
>>143602324
>>143602276
>>143602276
I'm literally objectively right though
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>>143602554
Sorry m8. Your tastes can't be law.
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>>143603463
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>>143603463
What
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some people a few days ago were complaining about non-looped music that made you wait several seconds before the track restarted

do you guys require looped music or don't mind tracks hitting an end as long as they restart within a second?
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>>143600550
It's from the studio that made Atom Grrrl.
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>>143604186
Optimal are songs so long they last the entire scene without either looping or ending.
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>>143604186
I prefer a seamless loop
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIleIBSm_zc
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>>143604186
if it has a nice start and finish then a non seamless loop is fine. But in that case the particular song has to be lengthy so that it doesn't repeat too much in one scene.
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What kind of plot will Funbag Fantasy have?
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>>143605915
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>>143605915
Pretty good one about a low-class knight fucking women and rising through society to the point of ruling entire kingdoms
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>>143605915
rags to riches in a fantasy esque universe
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>>143606074
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When will we able to seduce our waifus using virtual reality technology?
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>>143606409
20+ years.
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So how hyped are you for new Clochette title - はるるもなもに!

http://clochette-soft.jp/harumina/index.html

As for the story, it's Shinto-inspired. Some of the girls are actually gods, with the premise being the protagonist helping one of them become good at being a god.
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>>143607129
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>>143607129
Come back when it has a translation
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>>143607129
None of them look particulary appealing
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>>143607129
Fucking goddesses is my fetish
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Did you remember to back Corona Blossom?
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>>143609604
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>>143607129
>no VAs announced
>the two most fuckables aren't gods
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>>143609604
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/corona-blossom-a-visual-novel-by-frontwing#/

Are they asking only for $30.000?
If so, why the FUCK does SP ask for +$100.000 just for localizing a game?
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>>143610813
Because this is kusoge.
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>>143610929
That doesn't answer a damn thing.
If you are going to post bullocks then you shouldn't at all.
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>>143611032
He's got a point though.
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>>143610813
its going to be episodic kinda like nekopara.

It looks cute and has animations so im all for it.
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>>143610813
I'd imagine since when SP does it they factor in their cut and the main companies cut. Since FW is doing it themselves it is cheaper. That's what I believe anyways.
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>>143611121
How do you know if it isn't out yet?
Are you able to see the future? If so, how did you end up being such a pathetic human being?
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>>143610813
Because SP conducts business terribly, and are constantly in the red. If it weren't for all the Kickstarters they would have been dead by now because whomever is managing them is literally incompetent.
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>>143611313
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>>143610794
Mei and Ema are most fuckable.
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>>143611461
I bet you like memes, you dong
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>>143610813
>episodic
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I want to protect this smile.
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>>143612140
I want to fuck lolibutts.
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>>143612140
>vnr-capture

lol EOP
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>>143612140
>posting literal sluts
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>>143612140
>ntr
this is a real cuck m8s
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>>143612140

Get a walkthrough if you want the happy ending anon. I'm serious, you can't go for the happy ending without a walkthrough, because you have to choose for work a number of times for the happy ending, and she will be molested on your way before the happy ending.
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>>143611797
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>>143613519
What? So you get ntr'd either way?
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>>143614408

Not really, the MC will step in before things go too far if you choose the right choices, and the blonde guy will go away eventually because he need to move along before people that he owe debts to are catching him.
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People keep recommending me steins;gate but you guys don't have it listed on your recommendations, is it shit or something
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>>143616162
May as well watch the animu
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>>143616162
shits;gay
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>>143616162
nah its pretty good. Not amazing but not at all bad.
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>>143616162
It is an extremely solid story that manages to be consistently enjoyable despite having many, many examples of tropes
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>>143616162
Only redditors like Steins;Gate
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>>143616162
>trusting outdated as fuck "recommendations"
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What're you reading on this late Friday night?
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>>143616162
It's quite good, though it feels pretty padded at points. Notably, two of the arcs don't really serve any purpose except to make the story longer. The anime adaptation, as noted above, is also quite solid, but I prefer the VN myself.
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>>143616594
>trusting other people's recommendation

>>143616952
The Sagara Family.
Shits ok, fappable I guess. I just hate how ZYX used 1 face for all their characters.
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>>143616952
About to try the Odin sphere demo
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>>143610813
They're not using mainstream high-profile voice actresses like Grisaia, Clannad, and Root Double did, so voice licensing costs won't be ridiculous.

>>143611162
SP doesn't even give themselves a cut of the kickstarters if their graphs are to be trusted. They try to recoup their losses in post-KS sales which is pretty stupid and why they're in the red despite the more successful kickstarters.
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Root double only sold 6,599 copies when it came out in Japan. WTF? I thought they marketed it as a popular famous game. We've been had.
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>>143616952
Koirizo. Maximum comfy.
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>>143617676
So what? If its enjoyable as some people lead to believe here who cares how it did. I hope the devs see that there is market in the west more.
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>>143617693
>>143617092
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>>143617878
Not really? Who the hell reads the Sagara Family at this point?
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>>143617821
>who cares how it did.
When people think a game is good, they'll read it and unconsciously interpret it as good even if it is in fact bad. That's just the mindset they'll have. All the people reading root double are misled to believe it's a good popular game but in reality it only sold 6,599 copies, is virtually unknown, and is in fact no kamige at all.
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>>143617821
That's not the point of his post
Why did you even bother to write this?
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>>143618070
because fuck you.
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>>143617821
The only good part of Root Double is the root A. It goes downhill after that.
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>>143618014
Who the hell reads anything at this point?
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>>143612949

There are no NTR so far though.
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>>143615148
>blonde aryan cucks the MC
Just like it's supposed to be. Nigger cucking is just jew pushed shit
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I can't get one of Fata Morgana's songs out of my head. I even found it a bit annoying in game.
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>>143622296
I'm finding a number of the vocal tracks to be kind of annoying.
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>>143622296
>>143622353
I thought no one was playing Fata Morgana.
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>>143622353
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MaQ6m6mho8

Some of them were going for this kind of vibe, but they ended up very annoying
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>>143622450
Well duh, it's a visual novel. You can't play it.
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>>143618413
I'm reading Tenshin Ranman so me I guess?

Pretty bored though. I might stop soon. Or just read the threesome.
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>>143597225
>>143597449
Starless was amazing until that one scene that one scene with the secret dick and the only option you get is "yes or yes?"
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Is there anything else that competes with kamadori or is it the pinnacle
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>>143624986
Only gameplay VN that I liked as much as Kamidori is Duel Savior but they are also very different from each other. Let's just hope that the Ikusa Megami series get translated some day.
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And what is eiyuu senki because it looks like a rance game but its not alicesoft?
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>>143625480
it is literally a worse Rance with better production values and a delicious VA cast.

it's alright. not very challenging and the story is hot garbage but the characters are entertaining enough except for the Protagonist who is a huge brick
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>>143625480
It's a Sengoku Rance knock off. It's a vanilla watered down version. It's not too bad though.
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>>143625749
Better production in gameplay or art style?
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>>143626391
The gameplay is pretty much worse in every way.
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>>143624986
Game or story? Kamidori's story is laughably bad and the characters are awful, but as far as gameplay goes, I dunno, stuff like Sengoku Rance is pretty good? Below that quality drops off pretty quickly, like with Yumina or Big Bang Age actually somehow being better than most.
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>>143626391
well, the gameplay is more or less the same as Sengoku Rance, but there is less depth to it. you can take it at your own pace, it isn't like SR where if you take too long to take certain territories you'll miss key events/characters/etc.

there also isn't anything like capturing the Takeda Generals or other specific stuff.

everything else though has some pretty nice production values. everything is very pretty. music is nice. UI elements are nice. voice actors as I already stated are amazing.

boy, that protagonist though. i really found him irritating.
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>>143626787
Ivan best girl.
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>>143626645
Game of course. It reminds me of an openworld fire emblem dating sim and I can't find anything else like it
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Play Seinarukana now, in chap 3. I don't get Ice Banish II eventhough I killed all enemies and capture all "cities".
What should I do? I'm now trying to get Satsuki route, is that the reason? I should play Nozomi route to get Ice Banish II.
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>>143617676
That's first two weeks sales on 360 only.
In comparison, first two week sales for all 360 VNs:
Steins;Gate Darling - 39,153
Chaos;Head Chu Chu - 23,652
Chaos;Head Noah - 21,265
Steins;Gate - 19,496
Robotics;Notes - 14,761
11Eyes: Crossover - 13,905
Steins;Gate Phenogram - 11,659
Clannad (port) - 9,712
Memories Off: Yubikiri no Kioku - 8,601
Time Leap (port) - 7,582
Root Double - 6,525
Dunamis15 - 5,547
Tayutama - 5,177
Cross;Channel (port) - 5,076
Sharin no Kuni (port) - 4,884
W.L.O. (port) - 4,479
Phantom of Inferno (remake) - 3,996
Memories Off 6 - 3,857
Akatsuki no Amaneka to Aoi Kyojin - 3,516
No Fate! Only the Power of Will - 3,497
MuvLuv Total Eclipse - 2,867
Disorder6 - 755

Not enough sales to have data:
Code_18
Ever17 (remake)
MuvLuv/MLA (ports)
Pia Carrot 4 (port)
Sengoku Hime 2 (port)
Shiei no Sona-Nyl (port)
Tomoyo After (port)
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>>143627094
You don't enter a route until about chapter eight. Just keeping going. Also, energy leak and ice arrow also work as banish spells, so you don't need to rely exclusively on ice banish. It just costs less combat mana.
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>>143627417
Yeah I know, I just thought I don't get Ice Banish II skill is because I choose Satsuki for every choices I got.
Energy leak doesn't work when fighting Belbazerd. Can Ice Arrow work against Belbazed's attack? Well let's try it, I guess.
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>>143627878
You often can't block a boss' skills. To figure out if a banish skill will work check the skill's target skill level and the skill level of what you're trying to block. Energy Leak and Ice Banish 2 both target level five and below skills iirc so I don't think you're going to be able to do anything.

It might be a more efficient use of your time to focus on having a strong force and material attacker so you can always hit his weakness. Support can just be a healer or spare tank or something.
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>>143628325
Thanks for the info, lad.
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>>143628653
well note for a good route to do is either satsuki or nozimi route for there skills.

one is a group over 70 precent hp heal and other is a banish skill that seems to ingore the can't banish text.
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Grisaia feels like a grind. Would not finishing a vn be against /vn/ morality?
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>>143629315
if you're not enjoying it there is no reason to keep reading.

that being said once you get into the routes, i think it changes quite a bit. or so i've heard, as i've never read it myself.
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>>143629315

common routes are often boring in comparison to character routes
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>>143629315
I quite enjoyed the common route as I do like silly shit. It does have a complete genre shift once you get into any route tho.
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>Go to Megacon today
>Bought a copy of Bible Black for $20
>Bought a new copy of Koihime Musou for $40
How'd I do?
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Reminder Yume is best Hoshimeme
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>buying old games
Why not just spend that money on new releases to support more?
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>>143630516

They might be physical editions

I'd sure buy a physical copy of eden*, even though I already own it
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>>143629315
The common route in Grisaia is 7/10 while the character routes in Grisaia are 4/10. The drama in Grisaia is genuinely fucking bad. I guess Amane's flashback is okay, that's about it. Michiru's route in particular is probably a 2/10, it feels like a really shitty non-Maeda route in a Key game
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>>143627878
IIRC, the only one who can get Ice Banish II before your first belwhatever fight is Thalia, and I THINK it was an SS reward.
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>>143630065
decent mate
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>>143630472
>needed a fan disc to git gud
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>>143630840
Actually, disregard that. According to the wiki, there were two enemies in chapter 3 who carry artifacts that give Thalia Ice Banish II. If you did kill everyone like you said, you must have used the artifacts on someone other than Thalia.
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Everyone in this general is actually learning Japanese so they could read all the great VNs out there right?
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>>143632158
>tfw 2 months, 1600 words in and still can't read yotsuba
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>>143632235
What words are you even learning?
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>>143632235
>tfw 4 years of learning japanese
>can't read yotsubato
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>>143632235
just get the yotsuba vocab deck bro
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>>143607129
>only one of them is over 160 cm

Why in the fuck would I want to fuck midgets
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>>143633660
what are you doing here

a majority of anime girls are under 160cm because Japanese people are short as hell
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>>143632158
Just learn grammatical forms and use VNR
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JOP/EOP poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/10330009
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>>143635539
EOCucks blasted the fuck off
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>>143635539
weebs >>>/out/
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219th for Saber.
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>>143635539
I don't know how to answer the question. Yes what? No what?
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>>143637136

Are you currently in the state of being where you are currently learning Japanese, or do you know enough Japanese to be able to read VNs?
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>>143637248
Y-yes?
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Let's make /vn/ a Yuuritopia!
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>>143637394
>killertopia
no thanks
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>>143637430
what, but she's dead
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>>143637586
and the dead can't be killers, why?
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>>143637586
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Eop is finally get their kamige.

http://mangagamer.org/announcements/

It's either dies irea,baldr sky or muramasa.
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>>143637670

>the dead can't be killers
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>>143637739
None of those three titles are kamige though.
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>>143637670
Well she's been dead for like half a decade so she can't have killed anyone
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>>143637739
>apparently everything sells like shit
>new partners announced at every con

?
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>>143637739
>implying it won't be all three
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>>143637818

EOPs already got Undertale last year

It's the equivalent of a 10/10 kamige, so Japanese people are literally learning English just to play it
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>>143637965
Mangagamer does well for itself.

I'm pretty sure Fata didn't sell well simply because it appeals to a smaller audience. Didn't PE sell a shitton?

I'm sure if MG is ever about to go in the red they just need to pick up a moege and watch it print money.
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>>143638039
I don't disagree with you but that's not a VN
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>>143638101
the problem is, moege cost the most money to license since they're what actually sell in japan
mangagamer is licensing hipster plotge only because they're the cheapest to get
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>>143638101
Didn't Tokyo Babel sell bad aswell? Logically, MG's lineup should shift more towards moege and away from those >>143637739.
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>>143638184
They could probably pick up a lesser moege. It doesn't have to be something by Favorite for it to be eaten up.

I don't know how well known PE is over in Japan, but I literally hadn't heard of it until MG picked it up.

>>143638203
I heard Tokyo sold OK but nothing special? I might wrong about that though.

All of those titles mentioned in >>143637739
are huge memes even in the english community so I'm sure if they managed to license those at a decent price they would probably see relatively good returns on it. That is just me assuming, though.
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>>143637856
She isn't dead, LABO faked her death and confined her. Same thing for Kazamis sister, who is the reason everyone went insane in the facility and started killing each other by inducing malice on them per memory manipulation.
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>>143638467
Why spoil?
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>>143638560
Well, it took 5 years, but finally there's something with a better OST than Umineko.

Some 5 hours of tracks across 4 discs and they're all fantastic. Giselle is my favourite though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtzxiSpkcHY

Plus the VN itself is one of the best I've read in a long time. There's a lot of superficial similarities it shares with Umineko, but the biggest difference is it's not shit like Umineko was.
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>>143638203
I'm fine with moege as long as it is humorous and relatively light hearted -- drama is ok so long as it isn't overly drawn-out. Or stupid.

I got really tired of Hoshimemo's shit pretty quickly despite liking the all of characters. I just couldn't buy into most of the melodrama. It just felt like a huge waste of my time, doubly so because that time wasted on the petty drama could have been spent doing actually enjoyable things with the characters. Conflict is important of course, but one of the biggest problems I felt with the VN is that it almost never felt organic or natural. Or relatable, for that matter (the only one I could relate to was Aoi's self imposed isolation)

Also;
>confession scene
>ok, let's fuck now on the public beach for your first time, that cool?

Some of the H scenes literally felt tacked on. Like the writer just wanted to get them over with and didn't care about the pacing or context surrounding them. It was saved by the art and some of the good voice acting at least, but still.
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>>143639012
Whoops, didn't mean to quote.
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>>143639012
That is some delicious music. Surpassing Umineko's OST is high praise.

>>143639027
That's one of the things I liked about PE. That had some stupid drama as well, but the relationship part was actually good. There was build up to the H and the relationships themselves that actually felt natural, or as natural as you can get in a vn anyway.
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>>143639182
>That is some delicious music. Surpassing Umineko's OST is high praise.
There's some really good doujin musicians in Japan. Umineko was doujin too. I've been listening to Fata Morgana's OST on loop pretty much all day while I've been doing school work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP6gfdR7aJ0
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>「シーユーです」
>Literally translated as "See you desu"
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>>143639027

All of the heroines besides Yume fucked within 24 hours of confessing, which was pretty ridiculous.
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>>143639352
It just means that they're sluts, and I love me some sluts.
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>got 5 times over spoiled on HoshiMemo
>hear all this about how it's slow and boring
>50+ hours
Should I even bother
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>>143639352
Yeah, it felt like a disservice to the characters. I don't know if all Favorite titles are like that, but I hope not.

>>143639423
It's still good but I don't think the dramatic parts are interesting in the slightest. I also didn't find it too terribly funny outside of a few gags.
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>>143639423

common route is long and boring
true routes are underwhelming unless you know moon runes so you can read the fandisk
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>>143639740
I can read this
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>>143639804
Same. It says "Suzuha-chan, how is babby made?"
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