NEW MINTY FRESH UPDATE COMING SOON
Update 1.1 Incursions on April 12th:
>Free update for all players
>Incursion called "Falcon Lost"
>Coordination required (Get a fucking mic)
>Better Gear / Weapons than anything you can find in game currently
More here: http://pastebin.com/p4rv64ig
ALSO FARMING EXPLOITS AND 20 PLAYER MISSIONS BEING PATCHED APRIL 1ST
Looking for players;
>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tcdg4chan
>How to get on the player list:
http://pastebin.com/bFCazngD
>/tcdg/ Teamspeak:
216.45.55.253
>/tcdg/ Discord:
https://discord.gg/0rzAOSoTbldYk3Kc
>Semi-Official Division Discord:
http://www.thedivisiondiscord.com/
News and Announcement Resources;
>Twitter; all announcements regarding outages and maintenances are posted here:
https://twitter.com/TheDivisionGame
>DLC Plans:
http://tomclancy-thedivision.ubi.com/game/en-gb/news/detail.aspx?c=tcm:154-241886-16&ct=tcm:148-76770-32
>Dev Forum Post Tracker:
https://division.zone/devtracker/
>Changelogs:
http://forums.ubi.com/forumdisplay.php/1167-Changelogs?s=20e9a2f5c9c09d2340545e5499d697c5
Game Info Resources;
>Wiki:
http://thedivision.wikia.com/
>Skill Calculator:
http://miodec.com/division/
>DPS Calculator:
http://www.divisiondps.com/
>Global Player Stat Tracker:
http://divisiontracker.com/
>Dark Zone Map:
http://thedivisionagent.com/map
Previous Thread: >>137083815
First for Faye Lau is my waifu! <333
First for Bullet King as Incursion boss.
So, if the Incursion is one room with 15 waves and 1 boss battle with an APC this game is dead.
Also ,special announcement was literally nothing.
xth for this qt won't come back to my BoO
First for no checkpoints.
Kinda disappointed they didn't address the stash size issue
>>137158048
CERA-chan was always in your BoO
We need a drawfag already.
>>137157436
>>137157780
Friendly reminder that PoE means Path of Exile and if you're referring to Destiny's PoE acronym then you don't belong here. I want /dg/ to leave permanently and take their ded game elsewhere. Fucking faggots I swear.
>hamish interviewing developers
Miss me yet?
Anyone farming hornet/fich tonight for the last time before massive broke it?
Just want to know my expectation and see whether I should fire up the game tonight or not.
>>137158206
But MILLIONS of players EVERY DAY anon.
>>137158135
>McDonalds makes hundreds of millions of hambugers a day
>Noma serves 50 people a day
The winner is clear guys.
>>137158468
>Noma
who?
>>137158194
she looks the most cute when she's in her bed listening to music and moving her hands around
she's never in her bed though in my BoO ;_;
MP was the only thing ME3 did right.
Comparing division's ass MP to ME3 is a travesty.
>launching same day as dark souls 3
sorry division, you lose on that one.
>>137158679
>a console player who never read a book
Well aren't you a cute little stereotype.
Wait, so, are incursions 8 man raids? Or are they just amped up 4mans? Someone?
Anyone?
>>137158746
but isn't the incursion so far the same god damn thing as ME3 multiplayer ?
I never actually played ME3, but iwatched some stream
>>137158818
It's 4 man beat 15 waves of mobs and a boss at the end mode
>>137158875
Only not fun with giant lizardmen headbutting robots and exploding blue waifus zooming across the map and punching people into the sky.
>>137158787
you better not be acting like a know all because you know about some overly expensive restaurant in denmark.
fucking basement dweller
SMALL PATCH TOMORROW
MOST LIKELY TO FIX EXPLOITS
>>137158950
THIS incursion is.
They did say other incursions have different mechanics.
>>137159051
>ALSO FARMING EXPLOITS AND 20 PLAYER MISSIONS BEING PATCHED APRIL 1ST
Yes, read the OP.
>>137158986
>it can use google
Good. That's some job security for you right there. Telemarketing or possibly even data entry if you give it all you got. At least you won't starve when your parents die.
>>137159063
You know goddamn well those "other mechanics" aren't more players.
There probably just not shitty survival modes.
They need to change the speaker for these stream updates. Every question.
>pulls out Doritos weapon camoed cards
>"So uh..."
>3 second pause
>pushes himself to continue
>"So will players current gear..."
>fades out
>fades back in
>"...useful or"
>pauses again
>loses all reason to continue
>question goes somewhat unfinished or just really quietly asked
>the cucks respond
>"Y-Yeah."
>all smirk and laugh
>"That's cool! That's really awesome!"
>>137159063
inb4 beat 16 waves and a boat boss
>>137159063
>other incursions have different mechanics.
Like maybe 20 waves, or two different rooms with 10 waves each.
>>137159156
>APRIL 1ST
Muh paranoia
>>137159202
It's either Kiwi Manbun or Thickie Frenchaccent
Final wave is going to have fuckloads of Shutgun mobs
>>137159387
>hard mode is 31 purples
Can't wait for challenging modes 33 elites!
>almost kill rogues while manhunt
>DZ servers are unavailable at the moment
FUCK YOU MIKE
holy shit the game is unplayable right now
>>137159485
I love how shit the fucking devs are their own game, implying people don't wipe lvl31/2 purple patrol groups in dz in a single mag, challenging incursion may as well be starting level.
>>137159202
>"So there's Hard mode."
>"Yeah, hard mode is..."
>"..."
>"...">"Really hard."
>>137159485
>hard mode is 31 purples
lel
Anyone farming up horny/finch tonight before the exploit is plugged?
>>137160025
>so yea its truly hard
>hahaha
>>137160098go fuck yourself
APRIL 12TH RELEASE. DESTINY HUMILIATED AGAIN. BLOWN. THE FUCK. OUT. OH MY GOOOOOD.
>extracting solo
>get jumped by 3 guys
>can't kill me cuz they're shit
>down one guy, steal his HE he was carrying
>they're chasing me for a good 20 minutes
>down the same feller again
>extract
>go to my BoO
>destroy the HE I got from him, send him pictures of the process
>he acts all cool about it, says "Glad you enjoyed it."
It's hard being a dick when they're a good sport.
overview for daily/weekly stuff.
also new area on the map
So basically the update is only wave survival mode on 1 map. Lame.
>>137160972
>>go to my BoO
>>destroy the HE I got from him, send him pictures of the process
i wasn't aware edgemeisters like you actually existed.
>DS3 on the same day as the update
Fucking hell
>>137161260
Edgemeister? I was going to destroy it anyway, I didn't need it. How is going to my BoO even edgy?
Shit, nigga. Think before you post.
>>137161182
>collect 5 fabric
>rewarded with 15 tools
1. why
2. what tier are the rewards, otherwise i'm not doing this shit
>>137161182
>new area
>pve area
a shame
inb4 15 green level tool reward
Well it looks like Massive is listening. The update coming on the 12th looks like it will be adding the much needed content to the game. I'm looking forward to it, until then its back to the grind.
>tfw DZ rank 83
>>137161621
That's the Columbus Circle Incursion, that's it. Nothing new right now probably.
>>137161848
So you work at massive? Fuck off. If the Incursion is 1 room, this game is fucking dead.
>>137162035
the incursion being a disappointing horde mode is disappointing, sure, but they're fixing/working on most of the main problems so its hard to be so down about the game i would meme like you and go "ded game"
>>137162035
the gear set are also fucking shit, just seen a gif of dev in full set with 2.3k/1.5k/900 spec
>dat rng on top of rng
>dat weekly lockout
>dat horde mode grind
I don't even know anymore, I wanted to defend this game but right now I'm feeling RIP as fuck.
I don't really give a fuck about the incursion, but if the if the DZ is still stale as fuck after the I won't stick around.
And for the love of god, ANTI CHEAT ON PC
>>137162035
but we're also getting more daily quests and a weekly quest
and trading and gear score and a bunch of other improvements.
the game just keeps getting better and better
go back to /dg/ fag
>>137162197
There's no excuse for this shit. Incursions are just them buying time, because they don't have any substantial content planned for the game ever.
There won't be a Taken King that completely comes in and fixes all the problems. All the content they've got planned is going to be more wasted potential with what was a brilliant idea. The DZ was always the central focus of this game, and they're completely fucking it up by not addressing the glaring issues.
They're not going to change the fact that the map becomes un-used at level 30. Literally, an entire game's worth of content is no longer being visited because all anyone ever does is teleport to the daily challenge missions.
Go to DZ.
Teleport back to the BoO.
The game isn't going to be realized in it's potential, and you're either a Massive employee doing damage control, or you're a fucking blind fan-boy.
Also, isn't an expansion called "Survival"? Who wants to be that's going to add more Incursions that are essentially, Survival?
>dark souls 3
>destiny update
>ratchet and clank
>division update
all on the same date. What's going on here?
>>137162783
Ooh, Oooh, what's next week's lottery numbers????
Is the Incursion just one mission?
Is that the patch?
>inb4 bug fixes are content
>>137163067
>dark souls 3
all the streamers say it's shit
>destiny update
top fucking kek. all reused content
>ratchet and clank
are you underage?
>>137163067
fucking insane
div update has to wait though
>>137162783
>There's no excuse for this shit. Incursions are just them buying time, because they don't have any substantial content planned for the game ever.
so the DLC planned out they've talked about is just going to be more incursions? do you work at massive now?
>All the content they've got planned is going to be more wasted potential with what was a brilliant idea. The DZ was always the central focus of this game, and they're completely fucking it up by not addressing the glaring issues.
1. what glaring issues
2. what in your mind is the perfect fix to the DZ
>They're not going to change the fact that the map becomes un-used at level 30. Literally, an entire game's worth of content is no longer being visited because all anyone ever does is teleport to the daily challenge missions.
you can't say that for sure, but i would agree in that i doubt they'll make me want to go back into the PvE area outside of missions, sure.
>The game isn't going to be realized in it's potential
so what you're saying is the game you had pictured in your mind's eye since it got announced won't come to fruition? i get that you're probably from /v/ so your first and most prominent instinct is to shit on a game the second it isn't what you think it'll be, but come on man. its been 1 month since launch, they've been fairly fast to fix exploits and they're listening at least. why not wait and see?
>>137163218
Good morning, teacuck.
>>137160972
>>go to my BoO
>>destroy the HE I got from him, send him pictures of the process
w-what
>>137163235
>all the streamers say it's shit
>ratchet and clank
>are you underage?
says the millennial who watch twitch streams, reddit called they want you back.
>>137163235
>>ratchet and clank
>are you underage?
Dude, it'd be more accurate to say anyone not excited for it is underage.
>>137163342
This.
>>137163779
>he called my games shit he must be from reddit
go back neogaf kid
>>137162561
in what way is gear score an improvement or content of any kind? stop fucking listing it as something worthwhile
>>137164376
can't wait when /dg/ faggots like you are gone in 2 weeks and the cancer is finally cured
>>137163235
who gives a FUCK what streamers think
>>137164506
>le /dg/ buzzword
Is this the new reddit or something? Fuck off
What are the best talents to be rolling for on the Custom M44?
I know stuff like Balanced can be good on the Meme1a but I like the Customs potential to 1 shot people in the DZ.
>>137164506
I noticed you didn't actually answer the question
>>137164506
nigga i don't play destiny i bought the division because i like TPS and this game is going NOWHERE
>>137163972
Don't you have a MLG Monster Energy drink sponsered CS:GO tournament to watch. See ya, Kid.
>this game is making several of the mistakes that destiny did, drip feeding us content, weekly lockouts, walls to progress that are bound under multiple levels of RNG and extremely low drop rates
Does anyone else think this game would be better if they took a dayz approach to the DZ and made all the AI die from a much smaller number of rounds? Like, unshielded shots to the face with rifle rounds being a OHK?
I wanted Splinter Cell: "Fuck up the criminals of New York" edition, but what I got was shit loot and bulletsponge enemies: The Game.
The fact that suppressors have next to no effect, even at range, boggles my mind. A suppressed subsonic rifle/pistol at 40 feet is pretty fucking quiet. At that point, the bullet hitting the target is the loudest thing the target would hear.
>>137164687
+headshot damage, +crit damage then stack that with mods, maybe toxic which adds DoT on headshot, or coolheaded which gives skill cooldown on headshot.
>>137164857
>I wanted Splinter Cell
Oh man I'm laffin. Stay ded.
>>137164857
>thinks suppressors actually make guns that much quieter
suppressors are to reduce gas blow back and make guns usable indoors not fucking silence shit
>>137164857
sounds like you wanted a tom clancy of 1995 game instead of a modern ubisoft game. lmao
>>137164641
>>137164727
>>137164753
please go back to /dg/ and stop shitting up this general
>join Russian Consulate CM matchmaking
>host goes down
>get kicked
>join another
>team spawn by myself
>squad are under the map
>everyone leaves
>"application has quit unexpectedly"
Fuck sake
>>137165034
Cheers, I'll pray to RNGesus with my next batch of DivTec.
Would you also happen to know what the balance of Crit Chance / Crit Damage is for weapons besides SMGs is?
I've been assuming that it's been 1%CC per 10%CD but that's been basically a guess.
>>137164838
Don't you have to go back to tumblr and post underage furry shit like Ratchet and Clank with your tumblr friends? See ya. Kid.
>>137163342
>1. what glaring issues
>There's nothing to buy with your dark zone bux
>the jump in items from 30 to 50 is too big, nothing worth buying at 30 is available till you've already gotten better gear, making all the 30 DZ gear useless
>Division Tech being tied to server side spawns means that literally all anyone is doing nowadays is farming Division Tech over and over
>Dark Zone is near-impossible as a freshly leveled 30 with no friends
>Tank Builds are currently unkillable OP messes that are going to infest and proliferate in the DZ
>no hacker protection on PC
>1-3 birdbux per boss kill "But.. but.. but.. they patched it. Kind of. They just removed the fix because it was causing stability issues. Even though they nerfed it no fucking problem, them changing the values is causing so much imbalance. It's not them trying to buy time while the userbase drops off, realizing there's no endgame.
>Endgame is literally just Division Tech and birdbux
>more RNG than D3 had at launch
>nerfing rogue penalties made it so everyone in the 01-03 DZ will always go rogue at extraction, especially if you're by yourself
>I have over 200 DZ keys, they're essentially worthless
>the Dune Jacket and Ranger Jacket are fucking dumb looking, and not at all worth 320 Birdbux
>DZ could've been much more epic than what it is, but they'll never bring it to it's full potential
>DZ isn't even a 3rd of the map
>only 24 players allowed in one DZ, which means that if they do make a bigger DZ with more content, it certainly won't be attached to the old DZ because they don't want people who haven't bought the season pass to access it which means it'll be 1. tiny 2. tiny and filled with 24 players 3. only level 30+ will be able to access it
>the DZ06 bosses are glitched, mid town music sometimes spawns, mostly not
>about 70% of the rooms I get into the boss is glitched
>Q building sometimes gets glitched too
>the newest update will let people see your ilevel which will kill the suspense of PvP
>>137165591
>2. what in your mind is the perfect fix to the DZ
Address these issues.
>>137165353
>Would you also happen to know what the balance of Crit Chance / Crit Damage is for weapons besides SMGs is?
not entirely sure what you mean. they are separate stats, with separate bonuses that affect them. more crit chance doesn't increase crit damage, just crit chance and vice versa.
If you wanted to have innate stats, Crit Damage on LMG and Knockback Resistance on Shotguns are pretty good
>>137162486
no weekly lockout mang
>>137165092
>stay ded
are you saying every splinter cell game is shit?
If you are you're a fucking retard. Save for the last two, which completely lost form, the splinter cell games are arguably the best TC games ever made.
>>137165140
A suppressed rifle with subsonic ammunition's loudest sounds are the action, followed by the impact of the bullets, then by the sound of the bullet actually moving through the air. Serious a 30 second video on youtube can prove you've never heard a suppressed subsonic round being fired.
>>137165189
I do. This is about as far a departure from Tom Clancy games as the series gets, save for maybe End War.
>>137165591
>>There's nothing to buy with your dark zone bux
sure
>>the jump in items from 30 to 50 is too big, nothing worth buying at 30 is available till you've already gotten better gear, making all the 30 DZ gear useless
i think you're supposed to be in the dark zone during your entire level progression from around 10 or so until 30. then those level 30 DZ items would help out a lot, at least for a bit. but yes, at level 30 there's no real point ot them.
>>Division Tech being tied to server side spawns means that literally all anyone is doing nowadays is farming Division Tech over and over
sounds like they're giving you more ways to get tech in the april update
>>Dark Zone is near-impossible as a freshly leveled 30 with no friends
thats why there are 3 different level tiers for the entirety of the DZ
>>Tank Builds are currently unkillable OP messes that are going to infest and proliferate in the DZ
i assume they'll address PvP balance at some point
>>no hacker protection on PC
fair
>>1-3 birdbux per boss kill
its changed to 1-3 for DZ01/02, 2-4 for DZ03/04 and 3-5 for DZ05/06 and this change is in effect right now
>>Endgame is literally just Division Tech and birdbux
yes and?
>>nerfing rogue penalties made it so everyone in the 01-03 DZ will always go rogue at extraction, especially if you're by yourself
first people complain rogues aren't common enough and the penalty is too harsh, now its there are too many rogues and the penalty is too easy, pick 1.
>>I have over 200 DZ keys, they're essentially worthless
those chests can now drop yellows, congrats they have a use now
>>137165774
Oh, I'll try and phrase my question better. Basically - on attachments or talent slots where you can roll either Crit Chance OR Crit Damage - how do you know which one gives more benefit?
Should i grind to 30 then dz or start when im lvl 15?
>>137166181
Chaos Theory is easily the best Clancy game.
>>137165956
>the first time in the week you will get a very good reward, and after that you will get good rewards
Unless this is account-wide then if you'll need to go full autist and level a bunch of alts to 30 to get max gear fast.
>>137154614
>expecting realism
>in a tom clancy game
topkek
New30 with some some purples here
Should I be in the DZ or matchmaking hard missions?
>>137166324
well crit chance caps at 60% and crit damage is i believe 200%. since SMGs come with a base crit chance, you can more easily spec those towards damage since you've got an easy guaranteed chance amount.
>>137157823
Why do u think that the apc is the entire thing... it should just be the first boss right?
>>137157823
Threadly reminder.
You have less than 25 hours to get these, then it'll roll over.
>>137166538
whatever you enjoy most.
won't mean jack shit in 2 weeks
>>137166316
>those chests can now drop yellows, congrats they have a use now
Not the same anon but it seems like those chests have ridiculously low drop rates for HE (like, well, everything else I guess), and most of the ones I find are already looted anyway.
Just like most of the RNG in the Division, the problem is not any one aspect, but the compounding of a bunch of small shitty things. If DZ blueprints required HE DivTech but you had some better control over the RNG for the item in question, maybe it'd be okay. If the non-DZ blueprints for weapons weren't dowsed in not 3 but 4 layers of RNG selection (3 talents and the DMG roll), then maybe it'd be okay.
Sadly neither is the case. It's one thing I really hope they change more significantly because as it stands there's no *practical* way to make any build outside of a balanced/DPS mess unless you have the patience to sift through the Dark Zone for upwards of 30 hours. And, even the new Gear Sets in the Incursions may not alleviate this much if they leave the skill caps as-is and don't make the turret less than semi-useless at higher levels.
>>137166607
This isn't from reddit right? I can't use anything from reddit.
>>137166316
Bitch, you ain't even addressed the worst issues in my post.
Take your big ole DSL's from Massive's massive dick, and start seeing the forest for the shitty trees
>>137165591
>There's nothing to buy with your dark zone bux
>the jump in items from 30 to 50 is too big, nothing worth buying at 30 is available till you've already gotten better gear, making all the 30 DZ gear useless
Understandable, but if a good purple rolls expect people to switch out their yellow for it.
>Dark Zone is near-impossible as a freshly leveled 30 with no friends
Get some friends you social autist.
>Tank Builds are currently unkillable OP messes that are going to infest and proliferate in the DZ
DPS
P
SUse stuns.
>no hacker protection on PC
Never encountered any, but hopefully that's fixed soon.
>1-3 birdbux per boss kill "But.. but.. but.. they patched it. Kind of. They just removed the fix because it was causing stability issues. Even though they nerfed it no fucking problem, them changing the values is causing so much imbalance. It's not them trying to buy time while the userbase drops off, realizing there's no endgame.
Fix soon fellow agent. Also just farm challenge missions for birdbux. Preferably Lexington for quick farm.
>Endgame is literally just Division Tech and birdbux
Ye, problem? Just grind some more.
>nerfing rogue penalties made it so everyone in the 01-03 DZ will always go rogue at extraction, especially if you're by yourself
Git gud desu senpai.
>I have over 200 DZ keys, they're essentially worthless
Enter DZ. Go find crate. Open crate. Rinse and repeat with all 200 DZ keys. You're bound to get a couple yellows.
>the Dune Jacket and Ranger Jacket are fucking dumb looking, and not at all worth 320 Birdbux
Agreed.
>DZ could've been much more epic than what it is, but they'll never bring it to it's full potential
You're gonna need to elaborate on this. Don't just hide what you have in mind for DZ. Explain it.
>DZ isn't even a 3rd of the map
And?
Will continue in next post.
>>137166908
Mate, reddit can fuck right off. I'm making these every week.
>>137166932
the other issues seemed so small and not worth mentioning that i didn't mention them.
>LMB shotgunners
Since this game is going full Diablo, how would you feel about a blood gem-esque vendor?
You could buy an assault rifle or mask for bird bux and it would give you a randomly rolled item.
Could be something to spend credits on since there isn't anything after you've bought the blueprints you want.
>>137166316
Also, they fucked themselves over pretty hard with the Blueprints vendor.
The vendor should've sold 2-3 Blueprints per-week, not all at once.
Now, everyone has everything, and they're desperately trying to find reason in the game where they have the best loot.
Imagine still play The Division when loot wasn't every-goddamn-where and fights couldn't be decided by who had more players on their side.
That's a game I wouldn't mind playing.
>>137167132
you mean like how i can trade in 5/3 of 2 mats and get a randomly rolled item???
>>137166975
>only 24 players allowed in one DZ, which means that if they do make a bigger DZ with more content, it certainly won't be attached to the old DZ because they don't want people who haven't bought the season pass to access it which means it'll be 1. tiny 2. tiny and filled with 24 players 3. only level 30+ will be able to access it
All I see is just a bunch of speculation. Maybe wait until they reveal what they plan to do for DZ in the later expansions?
>the DZ06 bosses are glitched, mid town music sometimes spawns, mostly not
Never had an issue. Maybe join a different instance?
>about 70% of the rooms I get into the boss is glitched
Once again never had this issue. Re-instance?
>Q building sometimes gets glitched too
See previous comment.
>the newest update will let people see your ilevel which will kill the suspense of PvP
Not really. It's not like there will be a DRASTIC difference in item level ingame.
>>137167132
why is this game going full diablo? what does that mean?
I didn't have a pc yet in '97
>>137166975
>the Dune Jacket and Ranger Jacket are fucking dumb looking, and not at all worth 320 Birdbux
>Agreed.
Almost forgot. This isn't really a big issue at the moment so no need to be concerned over it.
reminder to report and ignore all /dg/ posters
report and ignore
Taking bets that someone discovers a dupe exploit when trading goes live
>>137167379
That's right, you weren't born yet.
In the beginning of Diablo 3, it was all RNG on top of RNG.
You'd get a quiver, or whatever, that had ALMOST the right stats for you.
Then you'd find a legendary shield that ALMOST gave you what you needed.
It lead to a lot of people getting angry and quitting over how bullshit it had become.
Blizzard said that their intention was to make players "excited when they got the perfect piece of loot." and that when they got RNG shit it would "motivate them to get out there and kill more to try and find better loot"
all it did was piss people off and discourage them from playing
Luckily, Blizzard realized their mistake, killed the RMAH, which was a dumb fucking idea in any loot-driven game, and released Reaper of Souls.
I don't see that happening to the Division.
>>137167259
>>137167497
I can't hardly make out your words with how firmly your mouth is around Massive's cock.
Which console do you play on? I know you're a peasant.
>>137167952
day 1
>>137168137
PC. And just because someone is used to the grind and possible issues doesn't mean they're around Massive's cock, anon. Relax.
>>137168361
You're missing the point, which is of course for the longevity of the game, there's going to be necessary, game-changing patches needed.
Ubsioft, has a terrible track record with this, and Massive, a virgin in the MMO market, will likely not do what is necessary to keep the game alive. Incursions are shit. That much is confirmed. A horde mode with only 4-players is as low-effort as it gets in these type of games. Ubisoft's season passes are never revitalizing game changers. They're typically just supplemental bullshit DLCs to fulfill their promise to people who were dumb enough to buy them. The game was good. I loved it. But now that PvP is all tank builds. And Incursions are confirmed shit, the game is as good as DoA.
I hope I'm wrong. Really, I do. I had a lot of fun playing with my friends, and The Division is a great co-op experience. But it will never be the MMO people want it to be.
It just doesn't have the budget or the care from the developers.
>>137169052
>The division is an MMO
this fuckin meme stop it
>>137169052
>But it will never be the MMO people want it to be.
>MMO
I think I see the issue anon.
>>137169409
It is, you dumbass. There's no way it's not.
>>137169517
its a fucking diablo clone, what are you talking about retard
>>137169517
>diablo is an mmo
>dark souls is an mmo
>>137159175
>t. (You) fishing NEET
>>137167379
>>137168137
>all it did was piss people off and discourage them from playing
Fuck yeah it did. I'm still bitter about it.
>Be Demon Hunter
>yellow quiver drops
>+200 agility(Demon Hunter main stat)
>+150 strength(Barbarian main stat)
>+200 Intelligence(Wizard main stat)
WHAT THE FUCK! 3 main stats on an item was absolutely useless. That's an item that no one would ever have a use for.
The Division is doing the same kind of bullshit. I trash(disassemble) 100% of the shit I get from Challenging and the DZ because it's all worthless.
The only things worth having in endgame are birdbux and yellow division tech. This is fucking stupid and needs to get redesigned.
>>137169517
so you consider CoD a MMO? CoD4 can have more players interacting together at once than The Division can
>>137169517
>server are capped at 24
>4 players max in any PvE activities
>you call it a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER game
you're the dumbass, its just a borderland clone, a shoot and loot, not a god damn RPG
4/10, you kinda got me there
>>137168137
>That's right, you weren't born yet.
wow man, could you stop burning me so hard with your words?
that really hurt..
>>137169517
>24 player DZ instances.
>4 player groups
>MMO
My what?
>>137169674
>Path of Exile
>3 stats
>WoW
>5 stats
>Destinyshit game but an example nonetheless
>3 stats
>insert game here
>3-7 stats
While were at it let's redesign every game in existence.
would tom clancy approve of this game?
In this thread we have people who don't know - or pretend not to know in order to be argumentative autists because the internet is the only place where they can stop being absolute bitches and start being assertive, that the term "MMO" has multiple meanings.
1. As a technical term: Massively Multiplayer Online game - a game which supports a large(subjective) number of players and whose focus is player interaction - Note that the type of interaction (pve / pvp) is irrelevant.
2. As a genre archtype: A party-based, level and loot driven RPG with a primary focus on cooperative pve encounters and difficult dungeons/raids targeted to end-game players.
Fuck all of you.
>>137170279
probably laughing his ass off in the grave
>>137170509
The autism in yourself flows unrestrained.
>>137169598
>>137169635
>>137169674
>>137169774
>>137169854
>this many autists getting tushy-sprained over someone calling a massively multiplayer online game, a massively multiplayer online game
>>137170279
He would approve of The Division and the Russian Consulate mission for sure. But his Dank Zone would be better, and Rikers would not be fucking hardened murder crazies, but more reasonable.
I am still triggered that those transfer and short-term cons/bail failures are sold as ULTRA MAX SECURITY NUT CASE RAPIST STABBY CUNTS.
>>137170259
>He thinks that a class specific item with stats that only a different class uses is perfectly fine.
No you're just retarded.
>>137169674
>>137169674
except there is no classes in The Division. You won't ever find an item with something like strength on a character that doesn't benefit from strength.
At worst you find an item with a shit skill upgrade, but saying that you can waste the main stats is plain wrong.
>>137170509
Despite how many of you faggots dislike thinking this game isn't an MMO, it certainly has MANY characteristics of one.
![Endwar-cover[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EivsrSI.jpg "Endwar-cover[1].jpg")
>>137170279
He approved of this fucking abortion of a game so he'd probably be fine with The Division.
At least The Division is fun.
butthole
>>137170665
>specific class stats
>The Division has classes
Holy shit dude. Do you even play The Division?
>>137170790
>>137170790
>gear and min maxing apply only to MMO
ENOUGH
>>137170760
You're missing the point.
The point is that both games are/were designed such that 99.9% of items were absolute dogshit because the devs were fucking lazy.
When you don't even need to look at the loot you're trashing because you know it's trash, your loot driven game is fundamentally flawed.
>can't solo challenging consulate
>can't carry scrubs through consulate because shotguns
>>137171214
Truth
>>137171020
>he doesn't think the division is based on main stats and off stats like the other games in that list.
Have YOU ever played?
>>137170760
>but saying that you can waste the main stats is plain wrong.
There are only three main stats, and somehow one of them is almost completely useless. The game is designed like a class based game but with one class: pure DPS. Some of the abilities are designed for literally no one, like the bonus exp from accolades that you can only get after you hit the level cap. Many of the weapon abilities are completely useless and feel like duds inserted to keep people gambling. Even if it's not organized the same, it still suffers from the same issues.
ITT: /tcdg/ goes over what makes an MMO an MMO.
>Cheaters in the 1-14 Twink Zone
Fucking seriously? You think nobody would notice if you continue to drill someone for 2.5k hp per non-Explosive shot well after Survivor Link is activated? Or your 600RPM Military SCAR-H MMR?
THIS SHIT.
DRIVES ME UP THE FUCKING WALL.
WHY IS THIS.
THE MOST RARE OF ALL LOOT.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
>>137171261
Stickyflash is your friend.
>>137171441
>stat is useless
>nothing we can do might as well deconstruct it
>What is Recalibration station?
>>137171395
>avoiding the fact that he fumbled on the Division not having classes
>implying I don't think the Division is based on main stats and off stats
>>137171441
>The game is designed like a class based game but with one class: pure DPS
you're a god damn sheep if you believe this. You can dominate with low firearms and high stamina. Squad DPS can be maximize with one member using high electronic pulse/SC.
>>137171593
I want to fuck that gun.
>>137171810
>avoiding the fact that he fumbled on the Division not having classes
>fucked up my sentence
Jesus I can't fucking think about what I'm typing with this much /dg/ and /v/ autism/assblasting pouring in. Just quit it guys. Fuck.
>>137162783
They should have stuck with the original concept from the e3 trailer multiple dark zones all over over the city. You're totally right about entire zones being totally irrelevant
>>137171994
>You can dominate with low firearms and high stamina
You can dominate if 2 of your squad members are afk. That shit means nothing.
DPS is the best option. You can stack as much stamina as you want and you'll still get shredded in Challenging just as fast as everyone else. Except now you're doing much less damage than everyone else.
There's no point doing anything but reaching a baseline HP - around 60k - and then just stacking Firearms as hard as you can.
All the useful skills function just fine no matter how much Skillpower you have - pulse & CC.
Shit's fucked.
so I have seen people saying you can do matchmaking from the DZ safehouses but it never works for me.
I get the same message 'cant matchmake from DZ' as I do when outside.
>>137171810
Isn't recalibration station only for gear?
>monthly reward drop
>season pass drop
Interesting?
>>137171994
There's no reason to have more than 35k health, even in DZ
>>137172634
>xbone agent origins stuff
FUCKING FINALLY. Took you goddamn long enough Ubi/Massive.
>>137172698
Yes. This is true. anything above 35k hp is overkill.
35,001 hp? You're way too tanky. Take some stamina off.
>>137171810
>What is Recalibration station?
>What is the gamblers fallacy
When you have a shit item, and useless skills make it a shit item, you don't double down by gambling that your shit item will become better.
>>137172593
Shit. Forgot about that issue.
>>137172528
tho I'm not surprised its bugged, I get new bugs everyday, between weapons not doing any damage, to warning messages in contaminated zones saying I have filter 3 when all my wings are maxed and am rank 41, amongst other stupid things.
today I grouped with a guy who was 2 shotting level 31 elites with a pistol, when I ask him what are his weapons he just goes '??'
its one of the few games recently I want to play again right after leaving but between the bugs, the suspicious behaviour from others players, the fucked balance, the retarded things like a M44 doing barely +25% more damage per shot than a M1A with 6 times less RoF or only 2 weapons mods, its depressing af desu
>>137172634
>season pass drop
season pass owners got something? What'd they get?
>>137172698
lmao
it makes all the difference in pvp
>>137173036
As far as I can tell, 3 DZ keys.
Woo.
>>137173167
He was joking....
>>137173208
But you can buy those for only 30 birdybux.
>>137173753
You mean 40 birdbucks.
Per key.
Good deal, goyim. Buy these jackets, too.
>>137172032
You'd be
shooting your load
>this unforgiving glitch
Jesus fuck time to rouge my dick off.
Anyone want to DZ?
Is it, perhaps, possible to go into the DZ at level 11-14 and do absolutely nothing else for the entire time I play that character? Get to DZ 30, get geared, fight other agents and like scum in the DZ? Do I need to level outside the DZ to stand a chance inside the DZ?
>>137175540
fuck off, furfag
>>137175747
you dont gain XP for your level in the DZ
you gain DZ rank XP
DZ rank is used to buy stuff, either with DZ bucks you earn in the DZ, or with phoenix credits you earn also in the DZ ( not much ) and by doing dailies once you're level 30 ( a lot more )
yummy yummy daddy's cummies!
>turn rogue
>have whole server full of rank 50+ carebears turn go against you
>see people going rogue while shooting at me because they all run in front of each others like retards
>its okay dude its fine we're fine just kill the nasty rogue
another good game with potential ruined by garbage people
I'm rank 41, killed like 8 people while rogue, earned literally nothing ( very little xp ), lost a full rank by dying, along with all my keys
I dont even know whats the purpose of going rogue until you're like full HE geared and in a group of 4 coordinated players
cant wait for more PvE its truly amazing, wow
>>137175941
Are you dyslexic or something?
What the fuck does my name have to do with furfags?
Tard.
Party with me.
I'd really appreciate some TD demigod answering these questions >>137160758 from previous thread.
when the FUCK are they doing something about division tech
>walk out checkpoint
>4 rogues bullying a guy
>walk straight back in
>>137177678
No, goddamn furry. Party with yourself.
>>137177678
I think, perhaps, he mistakes the "yuffie" in your name for "yiffie". As in the "yiff" that is so popular (allegedly) with furfags. I would like to do DZ with you, but I doubt I'm the right level, and until I am, I'll play solo.
>>137175540
ill be on in like an hour or so if youre still on ill add you
>>137177920
Daily and weekly assignments are gonna reward div tech.
>>137178070
God I hate you. Fuck furries.
My name is from fuckin Final Fantasy.
>>137178318
You like hardcore Yiff porn, obviously.
If your name is causing you this much trouble, why don't oyu just change it?
>PSN
Oh, that's why.
>>137178469
I never understood that. Why Sony had to make it so you can't change your PSN ever. I know they said it was to prevent griefing, but still...
>>137178469
I've never had a problem with it until posting here. A few people created a this meme because they're fucking retarded knuckle dragging niggers that can't read.
>>137178632
It's because PSN was very shittily coded. Same reason you can't have spaces in your name.
>>137178816
Kiddo, it ain't a meme if only a few people say it. Your name sounds like a furry name. Deal w/ it, nerd.
Maybe you shouldn't have chosen a name from Final Fantasy. Maybe making a name that sounded cool when you were 12 wasn't the best idea for longevity.
Can I see your deviant art page where you post all your furry drawings? Is your Fursona a fox?
>>137178984
I identify as an attack helicopter.
>>137178818
the funny thing is that now, psn players have to pay a subscription and nothing about the service has changed.
Sony needs to get their shit together, but the random outages of specific services are pretty bad on xbone
right now I can't join a party or send messages (without a 5 minute gap between sending and receiving)
>>137177592
you're supposed to SURVIVE to get XP retard
stay bad stay mad
>>137179083
Yeah, I saw that funny picture meme too.
>>137179083
a Apache longbow attack helicopter?
>>137179331
That's a meme? I just stole it from someone who used it as their last words in an online game.
>>137177920
What needs doing? Isn't division tech just a material used to craft into other materials?
>>137178816
fucking rabbit fucker get off my board
>>137179529
Shut the fuck up or I will fuck your rabbit TO DEATH.
>>137178984
Actually it sounds stupid but when my friends and I were kids, they nicknamed me after Yuffie the ninja, and it stuck unfortunately.
I am now 26 years old and everyone calls me by that. Even my ex girlfriends. It's fuckin retarded, I know.
So keep saying your little furry jokes, I don't really care.
>>137179732
dude just stop replying
>>137179732
That's actually adorable. And unfortunate.
>minding my own business
>3 rogues ambush me
>start fucking me up
>pop survival link, my heals, everything
>being slowly shredded down
>the guys suddenly fucking disappear
>had a high end armor piece on me
Thank you based gods
Does everyone know about that spot in the extraction zone in DZ01 that you can glitch through the ground and get teleported to a safe house when you take cover and move on it?
>>137179461
gold division tech is required to craft plans from the dark zone. you can't convert green > blue > gold either so you're reliant on looting div tech crates / killing bosses in the dark zone. the crates are on 2 hour timers on the servers, good luck finding crates that haven't already been looted and also getting it to give you a gold div tech.
>>137177592
faggot rogue got what you deserved. no one has time for your bullshit. we need to get div tech to craft.
>in dz 01 as a 14
>find a kill group of 2 14s
>both have xx_xx
>impossible for me to kill on own and they crush the other randoms fucking about
>think fuck it il play along
>find them at extraction, fake a surrender gesture
>they shoot and then mimic that gesture, never speaking in game.
God fucking dam it, im not even in 06 and im getting the same problem
>>137180494
i mean probably
>>137180494
Fuck off you cancerous mosquito.
>>137180548
stop trying to be a shitter twink, the hackers have caught on be a man and go to 06 as 30
>>137158875
the powers in mass effect make combat a lot of fun. the offensive skills being capped / mostly useless in the end game have made it so everyone in the DZ / CM has the same god damn loadout. it's also a much tighter map so you have to move around a good bit.
What kinda dmg/rof should I be looking for when crafting vectors?
I crafted two last night but the dps was lower than my purple AR, is dps an accurate indication of worth?
>>137166607
Does fierce affect all weapons or just the weapon it's on? Does "using" mean in your 2nd slot or when you are firing it?
>>137180782
Being so twink you have to be 30 to go to O6
I did it when i was 10 man up anon
>>137181371
What you're looking for is high crit chance / dmg. So any talents that factor into that. If you do PvE mostly, the armor destruction talent is a good one to have. Personally, I'd rather have self-preserved to heal on crit. The crafting screen will tell you what the upper limit on the per shot damage is based on your firearms score.
Wanna fix going rouge? Here we go:
Any enemy that shoots you while your rouge yourself does not add to the rouge timer if they are killed.
Boom. That fucking easy. Implantation? Never fucking ever.
>no clip into building at extraction
>pop out and drill anyone that goes rogue
>they think im hiding in the safe house so theyre standing at the door shouting on the mic
Lmao.
Why do i see so many AUGS being used even though the roll is level 30? Is it actually better than the mp5? That's what I've been using my divtech on
>>137182656
MP5 is better w/ the giant fucking mag, people just want to be special snowflakes.
>>137179732
>lying on the internet
>>137182312
>implantation
what
>>137177920
Honestly, if you struggle with division tech, you should stop playing right now.
there is MASSIVE grind in the DZ.
what tells me that you're low rank is that you're bitching about it.
Anyone who seriously grind is bound to find div tech everywhere.
If you're only playing for 30 minutes at a time then dont bother.
And if you're too low rank but want to keep playing, then dont worry about it right now.
Keep farming mobs, keep doing dailies, your gear will improve, you'll kill enemies faster in the DZ, you'll run faster between landmarks, and you WILL find div tech.
there are a few things way more in need of improvements / tweakings in the DZ than tech chests.
>>137180541
kek'd softly
>>137183026
I just want the god damn chests to be bound to player not server so that everyone running the DZ can loot their own fucking crates. I'm glad they're adding supply drops and DZ bounties. Should help collect.
>>137180782
lmao
theres not a single rogue in 05-06
first because there is a lot more players to kill in the others zones
secondly because going solo rogue in 06 is actually impossible
npcs do waaay too much damage to survive there
and third because groups of rogues are total fagets
>>137181798
So the dps number generated by the game doesn't matter as much as the crit rate / talents?
>>137182312
>rouge
>Implantation
>>137166316
>first people complain rogues aren't common enough and the penalty is too harsh, now its there are too many rogues and the penalty is too easy, pick 1.
Not the guy you replied to, but they should make killing people as a rogue give xp and give out steeper punishment for dying as a rogue.
>>137183562
I'm pretty sure crit chance/dmg goes into your DPS number, but yeah, the number can be artificially inflated and shouldn't really be the only thing you're looking at. You'll want stability / ROF / mag size / + more crit dmg on your mods. Remember crit dmg bonus is uncapped while crit chance is capped at 60%.
>>137183271
no, its actually one of the few things that drives more player interactions
if they did that, then every single rogue would hide / ambush at safehouses and extract zones
I'm serious all the chests on timers are a good thing.
As I said there is others things to improve, 05-06 are empty and 01-02 are full of rank 50+ rogues farming newfriends
>>137183628
I don't think the complaint was ever that there weren't enough rogues so much as the dark zone in general was kind of dead. The devs should have waited a bit before changing it for more people to be at lvl 30 since I know there was a prevailing feeling that the DZ / high end loot wasn't worth going after until you hit the level cap. I agree with you, the rewards in the DZ need to be increased across the board. Increased for surviving rogue/manhunt, for downing rogues / agents playing cops, etc.
>>137183026
What do people need division tech for? Its just a craft material that converts into weapon parts/fabric/etc
>>137183987
>no, its actually one of the few things that drives more player interactions
You mistake me for someone who wants to interact in game with any of you cunts. The less I have to party up or talk to xXx_No-Sk0p3-KuNt-B0xXx the bet
>>137184210
Needed to craft mats you buy in the DZ
>>137184210
All those rank 50 bps from DZ vendors need 3 gold div tech each to craft.
>>137183628
the punishment is harsh once you're rank 40+
you do gain a few things when killing rogues, I dont remember what exactly
the only way for me right now at rank 41 to grind more XP is to farm ez npcs in the first 3 zones, almost everytime some retards try to go rogue on me I destroy them and get more xp.
even in a group the DZ 05 and 06 arent worth it.
the game is fucked and they're going to add more pointless things
The whole 'need rank 50' system to get good weapons was a big mistake.
They should keep the rankings, remove the barriers of ranks for blueprints, and add rewards like cosmetics, player-owned safehouses and weapons customizations tied to the rank.
Not essential gear.
Every single reward and HE weapons I got from dailies and the DZ were trash compared to the HE vector and first wave M1A I'm rolling with since I'm level 30.
With the incursions, are they adding loadouts?
>>137184243
honestly I'm sorry for you
I'm not usually a very social person in games ( or irl for that matter ), especially so in loot games, but I've had plenty of good experiences with random groups in this game.
last one was hilarious, while doing the CM consulate yesterday with a group of 3 germans and one of them went full hitler after he got wiped many times because of the shotgunners.
I didnt understand a single thing he said but damn was it funny.
>>137167107
>shooting your hands/arms from 100 feet away as you blind fire
>chasing BK randies down the stairs
>shooting through the railing as they walk backwards down the steps, headshotting them from 2 stories up
NEVAR AGAIN
dailies reset when
>>137185164
In about half an hour, ish.
holy shit i just realized talents from other weapons you have equipped affect the other weapon's dps
>HE drop
>it's a shotgun
>Madison Field Hospital: The Elite NPC that spawns when Hutch is killed before jumping down from the roof will no longer drop additional loot when killed repeatedly
>Missions: Named NPCs killed from outside the mission area will no longer drop additional loot when killed repeatedly
>Fixed issues which could allow groups to bypass the limit of four members
So the only good farm after this patch will be Scarecrow from the Police Station exploit?
