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>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/5aUvHT7j
>What is Pokken Tournament?
Pokken Tournament is a game made by Namco Bandai that is a blend of Tekken and action-fighting games like the Naruto Shippuden series made by the same developer.
>So what are the basics?
You have three basic attack buttons: Weak, Strong, and Pokemon Attack.
Using certain button combinations you can use Counter Attacks or Grabs which can counter attack moves or grab a blocking/shielding opponent respectively.
These form a triangle:
Counters beat Basic Attacks, Grabs beat Counters, and Basic Attacks beat Grabs. Guarding protects against everything but grabs, but certain attacks will do a small amount of damage even through guard.
In Field Mode your weak attacks are typically projectiles and strong attacks are typically melee attacks that track/home. In Duel Mode, weak attacks and strong attacks are both typically melee and not tracking.
>Field Mode and Duel Mode? What is this?
Field Mode is the initial stage of combat where you may move your pokemon freely, and Duel Mode is the second stage of combat that is more akin to other fighting games where you fight on a 2D playing field. Doing enough damage, using certain attacks, or grabbing your opponent will shift play between these different combat stages.
>How do I play online? What is a VS code?
After completing the initial menu tutorial and picking a partner pokemon, pick Online Battle from the main menu / world map.
VS codes are basically passwords.
>I have the game and this chick's voice is making my ears hurt
Luckily for you, Japanese voices are a menu option.
>What are some resources I can check out?
http://www.serebii.net/pokken/pokemon.shtml
http://www.serebii.net/pokken/modes.shtml
http://www.serebii.net/pokken/
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pokken+tournament+tutorial
http://kuroganehammer.com/Pokken
http://pastebin.com/5aUvHT7j
>OP Pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/kTLxTp9F
ask an undefeated ferrum grand master anything
Post trainers
post mewtwo bnbs
>you can litterally win every single fights in the single player using only fire blast
fun game
Who else has given up because there are too many good players already? :D
The tier list is bullshit you can literally get good with any character even the suppose bad ones.
Haven't played yet. Does Gardevoir do any cute things that we have gifs of?
All you dummies keep sleeping on gardevoir.
I'll continue wrecking your shit.
so other than titles is there anything else to unlock once you've finished single player
I heard Final Round was going to stream Pokken Top 8. Anyone know what stream and when?
GUYS DON'T FORGET TO USE THE ATTACK TRIANGLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c19G5F1t0AU
>>135836179
Gardevoir is garbage, worst zoner and zoners are already bad
>>135836478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ7M7wGYFzw
Should have done it like this one instead.
Anyone got tips for a libre main? I know he's mostly dependent on grabs and phase changes cause he gets ENHANCED, but I can't even tell what being enhanced does
>>135836363
Is this legit? I don't have time to lab this but is it real?
>>135836545
Seams like some people can use it properly and win against suppose godmons so I call bullshit on that.
>>135836165
This please
>>135836756
>shitty campy win against players who have no idea what they're doing
No surprise there anon
A good Gardevoir is untouchable in duel phase
>>135836994
>a good gardevoir is untouchable in dual phase
Stop shitposting anon
>>135836478
>braixen F tier
KINDLY LEAVE
>>135837183
tiers are bullshit. with good reads and predictions the rock paper scissors mechanic evens the playing field.
But cling to the tierlists. i know they make you feel better about your choices.
>>135836756
You have to play Gardevoir different from most of the cast. Her close range is garbage so you have to do anything to keep them away. She's all about long range mindgames between Future Sight, Psychic, Magical Leaf, Energy Ball, and then a Dazzling Gleam or Stored Power if they can manage to close the gap.
So i played against a Braixen in ranked last night.
All she did was spam fireballs and in duel she just spammed fire blast.
How do i get past that ridiculous spam?
I play gengar, and im not very good at CADC right now, but im working on it.
>>135836884
>>135837183
Just admit you hate gardevoir in general. seriously its not bad people that know how to use it properly can win against good playing godmons that should tell you something.
>>135837526
Try dashing out of counter
>land Gengar's curse
>they counter or block the final few hits and hit me as I come out
what is this sorcery? are they being pushed out of the attack radius?
>>135837526
counter cancelling is pretty much the only way past it if you cant get close enough to jump over it
>all these complaints about getting around projectiles
who /digbois/ here
>>135837410
Hey im not the one that made it I just wanted you guys to confirmed how legit it was. But it seams like tiers are false anyway so.
>>135837708
Ah shoot, that's irritating.
I think there needs to be more endlag on a lot of characters projectiles.
Or maybe a mana bar or something.
>>135837807
>I just wanted you guys to confirmed how legit it was.
For one thing,
>asking /vg/ to confirm anything
But yeah, no. The console version has balance changes and new characters, absolutely no way any tier list made three days after release is valid in any way.
>>135837526
Use Diglett
>>135837419
its not even a tierlist, its just generally agreed on that gardevoir sucks. Zoning characters are easy to get around and gardevoir is probably the worst zoning character out of all of them. Onion waifu is bad, get over it
>>135838082
>do not question the hive mind!
Okay faggot
>>135837419
>tiers are bullshit. with good reads and predictions the rock paper scissors mechanic evens the playing field.
This is the good thing about Harada's game design. In Tekken, there are definitely tier lists and the tier lists do matter, but there are players of all characters in Tekken. There isn't just a few characters that dominate the top. There will definitely be top tier pokemon in this game, but it won't make lower tier pokemon unplayable. It won't be like Smash where Sheik can destroy 80% of all the competition without recourse.
>>135838082
Braixen suck!
Gardevoir sucks!
Chandelur sucks!
Question do you have something against the waifu mons? All these characters are usable and good.
>>135838220
sorry that players know how to dash out of counter anon, sorry that garchomp exists anon, sorry that the pikachus exist anon, sorry that the mewtwos exist anon, sorry that sidestepping exists anon, sorry that patience exists anon
>>135838417
I'm assuming the top tier character are really just the easier character to use. From what I've seen the top characters are really easy to use and require no effort to use.
Anyone got tips for Lucario? I do decent with him (59,80% win ratio online or something), but I keep struggling against stuff that zone such as Chandelure or Gardevoir.
>>135838438
Sceptilefag reporting in
I'm glad they did best Grass starter justice
>>135836478
seems legit
>>135838438
They're usable and good against people who don't know what the counter inputs are (nobody actually good), they're usable and good against characters that don't have a way to get in (nobody) they're usable and good against nobody anon. They are garbage, braixen less than the others but still bad nonetheless
>>135839110
just counter cancel and play their game, lucario is actually decent at zoning. Camp in shield and spam bone rush/antiairs in dual phase, get a combo in when you can
Why is the local multiplayer system so shit?
Even fucking naruto did a better job at it.
Which one should I main: Blaziken or Weavile? Decide my fate bros.
>>135839720
Main Weavile apparently its the godmon of this game.
What are the actually good characters?
>>135839501
Thanks for the advice, anon! I'll just practice that then, hopefully it works out.
>>135839720
Fire chicken
>>135839501
Pretty sure that can apply to any mon anon.
>all these roster complaints
I'm new to fighting games in general but I feel like if you're bringing a new fighting game over for the first time you wont really have the budget to make like 30 characters straight off, right?
they'd be doing a lot of work and balancing for something that could potentially go to waste.DLC characters would be nice though.
>>135836704
Enhanced gives her moves more power and special properties.
Up+A while enhanced, for example, paralyzes for a free follow up combo (which means in enhanced mode yyyy paralyzes)
In terms of command grabs the stunner and net grabs function differently on the attack triangle.
The net is a grab (you glow green) and beats counters. The stunner is actually a counter-attack, you glow blue and you have super armor. The grab portion of it is actually just an animation that plays if the last hit of the spin hits a grounded opponent.
Field phase is usually pretty free for Libre vs Zoners as long as you have good reactions. Quick attack and agility go right through projectiles when spaced properly and you can dive kick from basically across the arena.
>>135836730
I'm sure it is as the dive kick will break the stun and the up A in enhanced probably re-stuns, but the scaling in this game is massive and doing that is most likely extremely inefficient.
>>135840007
Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites.
>>135840007
Apparently its Weavile,garchomp and shadow mewtwo. But really you can be good with any character don't listen to the tier fags.
>>135840426
>But really you can be good with any character don't listen to the tier fags.
opinion discarded
>>135840124
that is applicable to any mon, but the problem is that when you know those basic things you can counter the zoners entire playstyle
>>135840253
I actually just pulled it off twice against a machamp, first game took the last half of their hp with it ended with a electric web command grab, second game ended with burst attack. Its destructive
What Pokemon is the hardest to master for you guys in terms of combos, setups, etc?
>>135840462
Muh muh tier muh rank muh superior poke.
>>135840783
Sceptile makes no sense
>>135840759
>first game took the last half of their hp
Unless you did a million reps it sounds like it doesn't combo at all and your opponent just isn't blocking
Time to go to training and check I suppose
>>135840813
>M-m-muh shitty zoner waifu, she cant be that bad
supprise, zoners have their entire playstyle counted by 1 tech
>>135840991
you can loop air x to ^a twice and link it into anything, does great damage
>>135840426
why is garchomp considered good
>>135841169
Dig ignores projectiles so he can just dig straight up to a zoner
Does fuckhuge damage
Has a ton of health
>>135841169
He's easy to use for scrubs that cant deal with projectiles.
>>135836730
>>135840253
>>135840759
>>135840991
>>135841127
Just went to training, put opponent on reaction: guard, grabbed to go to duel phase to be enhanced
air x, aka dive kick, does not link to up A.
>>135841169
Dig completely counters anyone trying to zone him, he does around 250 a combo, he eats shields, decent command grab and a counter
Nia was a mistake
>>135841395
>>135841127
I thought you might have instead been referring to doing dive kick then yyy up A and repeating, but that scales down to 1 damage a piece for the hits after the paralyze.
Hey guys, new to Pokken
Any BnB combos for Braixen? I know like 3 combos with her and want to know more
>>135841169
he's not, neither is shadow mewtwo
none of the characters are terrible so it's easy to say any of them are "good" depending on experience
>>135841361
>>135841401
digging to a zoner doesn't do much unless they don't know how to block or attack him as he exits, i've found that some attacks can even hit him while he's underground
>>135841418
You're the mistake, anon.
>>135841554
ah, i knew it was too good to be true, oh well still got other things to kill with
>>135841615
>not knowing you can cancel dig
>thinking guard is the best option against a dig attack
>>135840169
Yeah
I mean the first Blazblue ever had 8 or 9 playable characters
>>135841558
Most of the good ones involve being buffed with Sunny Day
>nia's halloween costume
>>135841743
canceling dig has a fair amount of lag on it, it's not like you can act out of it immediately, so at best you're just closing the distance
and that's assuming you don't get hit by something while you do this
>>135841764
You can only do certain combos with Sunny Day?
>>135837571
I dont hate garde
I hate waifufags.
This thread already has too many
>>135837725
>Guard
>Follow up with 250 damage combo
k
how the fuck can you block gengar's burst attack?
it only can be evaded by jumping?
>>135839720
Weavile if you aren't a Hoennbabby
Weavile if you are a Hoennbabby because Weavile i just a better mon
>>135841917
>so at best you're just closing the distance
That's a pretty huge plus against zoners, plus it is easy enough to react to what the opponent does on reaction and pick the followup that best suits the situation.
>if they threw a projectile and you dug under it, just finish the dig attack
>if they're blocking / countering, cancel into throw or jump cancel it into Earthquake or jump cancel it and then fastfall then throw
>>135841917
Its still closing distance while not taking chip damage, something a lot of characters fail to do. You also dont have to just r cancel it, you can jump cancel and earthquake is safe on block. This ends up beinga mixup which is scary because if you do the wrong thing against Garchomp you get to eat 200+, see here>>135837725
>>135841956
Yeah, like air X, YYY, f.A, dash, u.A is an easy one.
>>135842425
>i could never get punished by a lowly zoner! My tiers will protect me!
>>135842436
Doesn't dig get countered?
So what are garchomps exploitable weaknesses?
>>135840462
tiers r4 queers
use whatever you like anon, some are by design not as good as others, sure, but you can win with anyone with enough practice.
>>135842436
i thought counter dancing or whatever it's called doesn't cause chip damage but maybe i wasn't paying attention
anyways i'm 90% sure i've been able to land some attacks before he even exits the ground, in particular some burst attacks get him right out of there, you just need the right hitboxes
>>135842635
this entire thing was based on dig canceling anon, its a huge part of the reason why garchomp is considered as good as he is.
>>135842627
fuck off already, zoners are shit get over it. You either love an onion, a piece of furniture, or a furrybait fox
>>135842819
You can hit dig with normal attacks, it goes under projectiles.
>>135842642
he is ugly
>When the Hyper Beam hits
>Lost the match against the CPU in Red league for hte first
Fuck I'm going to trashed online
>>135842647
I don't have any personal preferences, I just want to maximize my win percentage.
>>135842642
not really anything, you have to hard read him the entire time
Give me one reason to do the iron league.
>>135842830
What I mean is, if you go underground can't your opponent just hold counter and dodge-cancel himself if he sees you cancel?
I seriously doubt just using dig in field phase is an auto-mixup.
>>135843062
Everyone says Weavile and garchomp go with that
>>135843062
smogon is that way, sir
>>135843129
so you can be the grandmaster
>>135843113
So he has no really bad weakness? that's fair.
How bout the other high tier mon weavile does he have any good weakness?
>>135842642
His color scheme is sup-optimal
>>135843183
Why is being competitive considered a bad thing here? idgi
>>135843062
I see you're buying Moon Version
Excellent choice, sir
here's your complimentary fedora
>>135843162
No its not an auto mixup, its a tool against zoners. Against other characters its not nearly as useful until the dual phase where there are two ways to go into dig, this makes it a lot harder to deal with in general
>>135843328
it's not he's just being a fag. that being said the game is in it's infancy so nothings really set frmo a competitive standpoint yet
>>135843183
>>135843367
yes yes, now get on /vp/ and make of those threads so we can take it down and get you outta here for 30 days
>>135843328
>smogon
>competitive
Smogon is a joke.
>>135842383
yeah, I think so
>>135843482
Reminder that puristfags against subjective fun that get touchy about an online simulator need to get out.
Sceptile is so fucking good
Detect (back+A) completely throws the attack triangle off because people won't know what to expect
Not to mention bullet seed can combo after giga drain so it's just unfair
>>135843328
being competitive=/=being a tierfag
Tierfags are what ruin games because they stagnate the playerbase
Look at smash and smogon
Smash is a casual party game (if you think its a serious fighter lol no) and some fags went "diddy is OP" and suddenly online was 95% diddy kong
Smogon does the same shit, high-tier smogon players all use the exact same teams. There's no variety
Tierfaggotry is cancer. There's nothing bad about wanting to git gud but going "WHAT THE BEST CHARACTER I NEED TO SUCK COCKS AND PUT A BIG NUMBER ON MY SCREEN SO I CAN FEEL GOOD" is fucking cancerous and elitist
>>135843482
Smogon became a joke with their reaction to mega stones and banning superfluous shit like klefki swagger which wasn't even a problem
although, gamefreak takes 80% of the blame for releasing garbage overpowered shit. I mean, mega kangaskhan, really? How were we supposed to deal with this pokemon. GF has pretty much forced the doubles format if you want to play "normal pokemon" without specific bans.
>>135843328
It's not
These people just don't know how fighting games work lmao
If you want to win, it's obvious that you would pick someone who's good.
>>135843730
If people are using the same teams and the same characters, then it's not the player's fault, but the game's fault because they can't balance
>that victory animation where Chandelure burnsherself out.
CUTE!
>>135843730
>not wanting to handicap yourself and arbitrarily limit your potential success due to suboptimal character choices makes you a faggot
>m-muh variety
if only lucario could dash in the air
>chomp confirmed
>hyped because bro
>power type
>disappointed but will main anyways
>he's actually really good
>excite
>everyone starts memeing on him because m-muh tiers
Christ.
So whens the next update to balance the characters a bit? I want to be good with all the characters not be stuck playing one or two characters because there the best.
>>135843983
>thinking someone like Garchomp would ever be bad
Yeah okay anon, I don't know why you would ever think that. That's like making Pikachu a bad character
So who're the zoning characters of this game? I don't mean projectile spam or something like I've heard Suicune and Chandelure be.
From what I've heard, Sceptile/Weavile have zoning tools, or what do you guys say?
>>135844007
The game came out 3 fucking days ago.
can't you just block until garchomp does something out of dig? it's not like he can act out of it instantly if he cancels it
>>135843983
tiers are for fags anyways, just use what you like
Jesus christ the game has been out for 3 days. Just play as who you like for now and figure out their combos and shit.
>>135844007
What makes you think that there won't be one or two best characters after a balance update?
Balance updates never actually make games any more balanced, they just change up the balance to give other characters a turn at being good.
>>135844107
In the matches I've played about 1/10 people react in time to take off the guard and pokethen again i'm just a D3 shitter so maybe my opponents weren't the greatest either but still
>Doing some online battles
>Get paired with a L.Pika player
>Round starts, doing good
>2/3's of LP hp gone, 1/4 of my hp gone
>LP bursts
>Start to combo me into oblivion, no matter what I try to get out, I can't
>Die, start of 2nd round
>"I may need to go more Defensive"
>The same exact thing happens again
>decide to rematch
>get fucked again
REMOVE L.PIKA
>>135844351
WHO IS THE HIGHEST TIER? I MUST MAIN THE TOPPEST TIER CAHRACTER. NO FUN ALLOWED
>>135844104
And? they had a year to fix all the characters yet some are still considered gods and other shit.
>>135836028
pls respond
>When you destroy a gardefag with Hyper Beam
I just picked up gengar in the lab and holy fuck why is he so much fun
Why do scrubs believe that playing a top tier character and having fun are mutually exclusive?
>>135844562
>a year
They did a balance patch a month ago in arcades and console release changed the balance even further with new characters.
See: Gengar used to be a god and he plummeted down after they nerfed the crap out of him last month.
>>135844090
you see my smash main is rob
>>135844793
>Gengar used to be a god and he plummeted down after they nerfed the crap out of him
this is a meme
>>135844496
Get rushed down, son
>>135844793
gengar is still retardedly good
>>135844090
It's hard to say because some characters are basically built for zoning but others can zone effectively depending on the matchup.
For example, Pikachu can zone pretty well but he rarely needs to unless it's a scary pokemon like Machamp.
If you want a mostly pure zoner your best bets are Suicune, Chandelure, and Gardevoir. Other characters who are above average at zoning but don't slouch in close range are Pikachu, both Mewtwos, Braixen, and maybe Gengar.
Friendly reminder that this game is pokemon thus aimed at children, play whoever the fuck you want.
Chandelure is fucking cancer
>has projectile that breaks fucking counter
>annoying ass overhead projectile when you try to jump said counter breaking projectile
>fucking long range command grab in case your stupid ass decided to block
holy shit
>>135844947
Oh, so Sceptile is kinda not a thing?
Well fuck
what's the character with the highest skill ceiling?
also what's the trickiest one? I love doing mindgames, canceling and all that stuff
>>135843741
Even then it's really centralized
Last year's vgc had a lot of the same pokemon just banning cover legendaries and this year allowing legendaries means it's primal groudon and mega kanga the meta
>>135845165
Gengar. Sceptile is weird too
>>135845165
Weavile and Weavile
>>135845165
gengar is the best at mind games
sceptile is hands down the hardest fighter to play as
>Decide to pick up Mewtwo because he's literally a mememon
>Win percentage skyrockets as soon as I pick him for Online
why is he so easy
Hyper Beam is a literal meme attack
>>135845162
He has some tricky projectiles and can litter the field with annoying things, but I wouldn't really call him a zoner. Most of his stuff has pretty short range. Generally plays as sort of a "cautious" rushdown character in my experience.
>>135845567
most people havent even unlocked mewtwo yet so you have a big advantage
>>135845604
>can litter the field with annoying things
Sorta like Weavile's three thrown ice things?
>>135845567
meme meme meme meme
>>135845794
The only issue I'm having is his Burst builds really slowly, I don't know exactly what causes it to fill
>>135845567
>>135845567
Hyper Meme
>>135845567
LITERALLY a MEME
>>135845871
Yes, but somehow more annoying. One attack shoots seeds, and shortly afterwards the seeds sprout upwards rapidly to hit anyone above. Another sends out a leaf tornado which eventually shoots weak homing leaf projectiles.
>>135843954
>thinking furniture is cute
go hug a chandelier
Is there any reason to use Garchomp's running stance?
>>135845947
Does the Nia support affect online multiplayer too?
You could try changing it for Mewtwo
>>135845892
>>135846041
>>135846157
>>135846161
calm down samefag
>>135846337
lol mad
>>135846218
I would call those zoning tools. Sound pretty neat, actually.
>>135846337
no
>>135846307
Support does work online
>>135846421
They're definitely zoning tools against the right opponent, but against a "real" zoner you'll be forced to rush them. Even a half-zoner like Pikachu could probably force Sceptile to be aggressive.
>>135846337
>thinking we're samefagging when our posts are too close to one another
literally memeing
>>135845018
>Mfw laggy chandelure that sits across the stage knowing he's laggy spamming the homing projectiles
I have never wanted to stop playing a game this much.
Everything about this thing is just terrible to play against
>nobody uploaded the full burst theme yet in good quality
the only one who uploaded it recorded it with a potato
>>135846641
Can Sceptile easily be rushed down or something? Sounds like you're saying that.
>>135846801
it's only bad if there's lag
lab against it m8
>>135846801
thats when you pick up mister shark anon
Garchomp is daddy
>>135847057
Scrubchomp
Who's the best support and why is it Electrode
>>13584626
Running X sets up combos, is safe on block, and also has decent damage
>>135846960
He can't easily be rushed down, he can easily be zoned.
He has a lot of tricks but most of them have pitiful range or speed. Meanwhile, other characters have lasers that span the entire stage in an instant. So playing him as a zoner probably won't work out great because he's going to be forced to rush people down a lot of the time.
>>135846965
>Projectile that breaks counter
>Anti air in case you want to jump said projectile
>command grab in case you want to block
>>135846801
>laggy chandelure trying to projectile spam
>but I'm playing pikachu libre
>wall jump just for the extra defense, dive kick right on in
>>135846265
>>135847279
>post number cut off
ebin
>>135847158
I was going to main him either way, garchomp is badass
Just beat the3,000 HPShadow Mewtwo in story mode. Please tell me that's the hardest part over with.
>>135847165
How does Electrode work?
You press L when you get hit?
Has anyone been able to find the remixed synergy burst theme from the shadow mewtwo fight?
>>135847482
yeah that was the only challenging part of single player. and once you just chill out and play a little cautious it's not that bad
>>135847314
Well shit. I guess Sceptile will be my goto rushdown-type character, then.
Is there a list of what mons fall into which archetype?
>>135847639
Blazi "Divekick it until it's dead" Ken and Epic Clawman of Falling Ice Platforms
>>135847521
That's if you want the explosion
For some reason people reflexively shield when it comes up, and it does nothing when not attacked, but freezes you in place.
If they shield, rush them and grab, nobody ever seems to expect it.
>>135847639
Not really. It's easier to ask what role each pokemon can't perform.
Against a zoner pretty much any non-zoner is going to be forced to rushdown, or at least attempt to. Against a Machamp even the hardest rushdown mons will play carefully.
Am I the only one who isn't blaming IGN anymore for the "overwhelming mechanics" thing?
There's a whole god damn stance subsystem and high low shit that's different from high/low in other fighters, and there's so many unique attributes to each fighter
>>135848224
Is this your first fighting game ever?
>Punching Gardefags in the goddamn face
It's so satisfying toperfectthem
>>135848224
It's a lot but it's easy to learn, the tutorial goes through everything you need to know about the game. Sogit gud
>>135848279
not at all, but pokken has a lot of unique shit that other fighters don't have. I wouldn't say it's overwhelming myself, but there is a lot to keep in mind on top of the standard fighting game mechanics
anyone want to play
>>135848412
It doesn't go over the stance mechanics and character specific attributes at all.
>>135848025
Thanks anon, great tips.
Farfetch'd/Electrode or Reshiram/Cressila probably my favourite assists atm.
>>135847639
Nevermind, found it.
http://www.serebii.net/pokken/pokemon.shtml
>>135848092
Machamp can really fuck you up bigtime, right?
>>135848007
Okay, mons I actually have interest in because I like them.
>Standard: Blaziken, maybe Pikachu from what I've seen
>Power: Garchomp
>Speed: Sceptile, Weavileonly because from what I have seen, is extremely fast and seems fun to play as
>technique: lmoa
>>135848308
As a Gardevoir main, you go right ahead feeling that. I can imagine how frustrating it can be on the other side of her zoning mindgames. I also know that if you get in my face I'm pretty much dead. So in conclusionpls no bully.
I cant seem to figure out any garchomp combos other than earthquake -> rape, what else does he have?
What's everyone's thoughts on The Champ?
>>135848815
he steals my health bar all the time, every time he grabs me i consider calling the police
>>135848815
Like a big, black man except instead of stealing my TV he steals my HPhe's also not fast like a black man so I have no trouble running circles around him
will this game be competitive?
>>135849202
It has enough depth to it, so I would say yes.
>>135849202
It's been competitive for months already in Japan.
>>135848969
>>135849065
Of course, Anon's see this perfect specimen of man and his massive crouch bulge and instantly think "Black man"
anybody up for another tournament today? a little earlier this time
>>135848804
>earthquake -> rape
>>135849202
It's been competitive in Nippon
The game launched with a tourney
And it's confirmed for EVO
Quick!
Post your labbing music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VXzhZwfCZs
what do you think of gengar? Is viable? I heard it struggles a lot agaist rushdown chars
>>135849426
any liquid dnb mix desu,
>styling on a Pikachu
>he doesnt even get a hit in first round, perfected
>halfway through my round 2 combo, he's down to 50%
>game freezes up
>"Connection to the opponent lost"
top kek
>>135849460
Gengar will get pressured heavily by rushdown yeah, he can be a bit tricky to lock down however and Mega Gengar is an unbalanced monster.
>>135848804
You really have to just figure things out on him on your own
A lot of his moves have a shit ton of startup/endlag but chomp makes it really easy to push the opponent into the wall, where a wallsmash makes it a lot easier to land decent combos
>>135849329
surewhere else would I go to get raped by foxes again
>>135849565
>blogposting
>>135849985
>Don't post about the game here
so i've been playing braixen but i don't wanna just be a campy asshole, whose a good person to try out to get in that ass?
>>135850407
Machamp has four fists to make their favorite Pokemon into the next Goatse.
>>135850407
Weavile is very fast and focuses on rushdown
>>135850484
kek
Weavile is pretty good for literally tearing up that ass as well
>>135835945
>are you a seasoned trainer
TOP KEK
You already won, I'm not even going to post mine.
>>135850710
Garchomp, just play Garchomp. Git gud with him and make everyone your bitch
>>135850407
>>135850484
>>135850652
>>135850710
No mention of Charizard?
>>135850935
Sorry my bud, I only play Luc, and the champ
>>135850935
>tries to play him like a rushdown
>countered because hes slow and predictable
no
Whats the easiest way to make a webm from an mp4 on my phone? I have some braixen combos I want to share.
>Someone tries to spam a projectile while I'm playing Chandelure
How is Lucario?
>mewtwo spamming hyperbeam
>block, dash, block, dash, grab
>he keeps doing it
are people really that retarded
>Supers that are command grabs
there is not excuse for this bullshit
who the fuck thought this is a good idea?
if they use it while you are on the ground you can't jump away and you can't stay in the air forever
>>135843313
>>135842642
He can't punish certain characters on block like Weavile.
>>135844858
I kinda miss those threads. Besides all the shitpost and rage they made.
>>135851519
>somebody tries to spam a projectile while i'm suicune
mirror coat is so fun
Can someone please give me tips on how to beat the Shadow Mewtwo boss fight?
>>135851975
USE THE ATTACK TRIANGLE
>>135851872
ehhh, dig usually is fast enough if its a shitty move, you also cant grab him in the middle so its safe most of the time when characters like pikalibre try and grab after divekick
>>135851975
switch to braixen
spam fire blast
there you go, you can now beat the entire single player without a loss
>>135851901
Those threads? /ssbg/?
>try to counter attack cancel online and approach
>it's wonky as fuck, garbage for approaching
>try to jump
>worst jump in fighting games I've ever seen, clunky and slow
>movement in field phase is completely fucked because you automatically close in on your opponent
>moving precisely is almost impossible
Field Phase is fucking shit, the whole game should have been in Duel Phase. Not to mention the transition fucks up combos more often than not because it happens too early.
>>135851576
Rare
He's not bad
He's just rare
>>135852083
No, I meant his block. Most Pokemon are able to attack and hit after they block. Garchomp can be outsped .
>>135852185
Git gud
I don't play fighting games much but I'm considering getting this because I'm a piece of shit getting suckered into the fact that its pokemon
Is Chandelure or Gengar good? I want to be a ghostbro
If not I'd probably play Suicune
>>135852286
thats compensated by the fact that garchomp does massive block damage and earthquake being so god damn safe against block you can almost grab afterwards
>>135852616
all are good. gengar is hard to play.
>>135852616
All 3 are good
>>135842642
Ice
>>135852741
anon dont lie, the zoners are bad if the opponent knows how to counter attack cancel
>>135852892
This is objectively wrong, you act like they don't have projectiles that break counter
Tips against a close range spammer and against the wall? I'd imagine counter can work, and sometimes does, but I'm wondering if there are alternatives.
>Play online
>Get raped by zoners
>Spend hours in lab trying to master CADC
>Starting to get git gud
It feels extremely rewarding when you can actually see the progress.
