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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, March 19th:
1279 – A Mongolian victory at the Battle of Yamen ends the Song dynasty in China.
1649 – The House of Commons of England passes an act abolishing the House of Lords, declaring it "useless and dangerous to the people of England".
1853 – The Taiping reform movement occupies and makes Nanjing its capital until 1864.
1920 – The United States Senate rejects the Treaty of Versailles for the second time (the first time was on November 19, 1919).
1941 – World War II: The 99th Pursuit Squadron also known as the Tuskegee Airmen, the first all-black unit of the US Army Air Corps, is activated.


>News
HOI4 DD 48
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-48th-development-diary-11th-of-march-2016.913075/

EU4 DD 17/03
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-17th-march-2016.914124/


>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>EU4 - BDSM
http://pastebin.com/vYbnKvK2

>>[CK2 - 2.4.5] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - 7 Years v0.1
http://pastebin.com/tsPsr70u

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.3.2 - 14/03/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.5
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[HoI3] YAMDaM v0.54
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md4tzqe2gg6stfv/

Old Thread >>135611790
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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how fares your empire
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Reminder to encourage bureaucrats and build liquor factories.
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Will Stellaris be good?
Will HOI4 be good?
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>>135686780
Well, I just lied to the world and said we were pulling back form Syria
How about yours?
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>>135686860
Yes
Yes
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>>135686865
Did he actually not?
the absolute madman
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>>135686860
maybe
no
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>>135686858
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>>135686860
Maybe
Maybe
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>>135686860
Sweden
Yes
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>>135686860
Yes
Hopefully
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Nicky
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http://poal.me/jqwei3
http://poal.me/jqwei3
http://poal.me/jqwei3
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When will the redditors leave?
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>>135686860

Maybe but not better than distant worlds.

No and utter casual shit compared to HOI3
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rate my blob guys :)
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>>135689048
but anon, you are the redditor
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1) Which states should I conquer in order to westernize as Shogunate Japan? Blobbing into somewhere like Vietnam seems gamey.

2) How much of Manchuria should I annex directly?
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What's the soonest you can reasonably hope to westernize as Imperial Japan in HPM?
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>>135689525
All of it. Get naval logistics/ whatever tech you need and fully unite both countries.
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>>135689754
late 40s or early 50s
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>>135690642
Have you ever actually done it in the '40s? Because that sounds like bullshit.
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>>135690774
Nope, I was mainly guessing.

I usually do it it '55 or the 60s, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone managed it earlier.
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>>135690642
I think I've done it in late 40s before but I don't remember the dates by head. You can do it pretty fast if you conquer shit.
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In the Stellaris previews Tutorials are given by a robot.

We know that AI revolts are an end game threat, if any empire delves too deep into AI techs.

When the revolt happens, I want Tut-Bot to be the one to declare war on me. It is only fair that the one that saw all of my bungling diplomacy and development is the one to tell me that meat/fungibags are shit.
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So what have you lads been doing when not playing /gsg/?

all i've done is prank call some québecois mcdonalds.
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>>135692585
pls buy
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>>135692647
>not playing /gsg/
>not playing grand strategy general, the forum for discussing grand strategy games
Fuck off back to fucking >>>/r/paradoxplaza already, you fucking plebs will never understand our memes.
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>>135692585
>AI
Can I Butlerian Jihad?
Dune mod when?
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>>135689754
1848 was the earliest I've done it, you start almost done and the Japanese substates constantly get handed RP and bonuses for free. Shogunate takes a little longer.
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Does anybody know if its possible as the Danubian Federation to later accept any cultures that reject the proposal to form the Federation?
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As Japan, can I count on the British to destroy most of the Chinese navy during the First Opium War?
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>>135695035
you can always just genocide them
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which reform transforms me to a constitutional monarchy?
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>>135695320
I could, but that sort of defeats the point of forming the Federation in the first place.

>>135695473
Non-Secret Ballots and Weighted Universal.
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>>135695320
That's pretty mean desu
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>>135695320
Not really, considering democracies can't genocide, he'd have to flip dictatorship.
Plus there's be no point as he couldn't get cores there anyway. The dynamic coring event is shit, it's 2 infamy a province and takes about 50 years to fire, for each province.
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>>135695974
Does anyone else have issue with the dynamic coring? Never works for me.
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I wonder how this is going to play out.
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>>135689113
show mainland
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>>135696769
that shouldnt be possible
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>>135695974
>considering democracies can't genocide

What is White Genocide?
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>>135696656
It very rarely fires. I pretty regularly go entire games without having it fire once.
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>>135696970
>
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>>135696769
Looks like French commitment to Russia won out, even though the French are allied with the Ottomans in the Crimean war they're clearly at war with the Ottomans.
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t. alberto barbosa
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Im Emperor as Saxony in 1560.

The protestant league has not formed yet (Im catholic). I want the protestant league for form and declare the league war. I want the protestants to win or that peace of Westphalia is signed.

How can I speed up this process without myself converting to protestantism in order to start the league? If I convert I will lose my emperor status.
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>>135697472
Morocco and Mamluks are ok
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>>135697427
Slavs, T*rks, Spaniards, and Austrians on suicide watch.
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How do I get rid of the "ineffective foreign weapons" modifier as Shogunate Japan?
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why can't I put this guy on my council?
running ck2+
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>>135696937
show me ya dick
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is ck2 playable again?
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>>135698803
he had to actively express an interest on being on the council before I could put him on wtf
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>>135697472
I find it so fucking stupid when their most technologically advanced units have so little clothing.
Also, are Algerians and Tunisians really that black (and are Moroccans not)?
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>>135699616
WE
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>>135699616

but that's how PIRATES dress man :^)

also I guess there were slave soldiers from Sub-Saharan Africa to some extent but making all the sprites black some some of the nations is a bit mind-boggling
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>>135699616
>are Algerians and Tunisians really that black (and are Moroccans not)?
It's funny you mention that because I had thought it was the reverse in reality.
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>>135699616
Moroccans are the most black.

Paracux did it again.
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Maghrebi peoples aren't even black, they look just like Italians.
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>>135699616
Tunisians are fucking solid black, m8
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I'm a Conservative Democracy but I want to be liberal for those sweet aryan immigrants. Should I encourage militancy or not?
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Why is Benin so horribly misrepresented in paradox games?

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

Benin was one of the most powerful, high-tech and crime free cities in the world, obviously in beautiful Africa.
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>>135699616
Algerians and Tunisians are nearly white passing, Moroccans just a shade darker.
And then the three countries have somewhat large oppressed black minorities. But who cares about them, they're not oppressed by white people, so it doesn't count.
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>>135701916
Paradox needs to check their privilege.
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>>135701916
Gosh darn it I hate when whitey suppresses true history where we were space aliens and shit.
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>>135702165
They all have obvious african admixture, except for certain algerian berber tribes, who are white passing.
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>commission a painting

>encourage intellectuals

>build factory serial x99999999

>fabricate claims

Some real thrilling gameplay here guys.
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>>135703370
LIQUORED BUREAUCRATS
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>>135703370
You forgot baiting five hundred thousand frenchmen with ten thousand men and then bringing in one million men to man the machine guns
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>>135703546
don't forget about the mustard gas
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>>135703546
dude stop it you're making it sound fun
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>>135686860
Yes
Yes
Can't wait for the DDRJake streams.
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>>135704652
t. DDRJake
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>>135704692
I'm not DDRJake, I'm quite the opposite of DDRJake.
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Any tips for keeping militancy down when westernizing as Shogunate Japan?
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>>135686658
I have a bit of confession to make in EU4.

In Ironman, I can only play with Ottoderps, France, or Poland-Lithuania. Anything else (except occasionally Milan and Serbia), I get stuck and can't advance.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHZHng7aEOE
>Comments not in Greek or English will be deleted
Balkan shitter delusion videos on youtube are the best, I love reading the comments
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>>135705205
>Ottoderps
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>>135705224
Greeks are almost as bad as sub-Saharans when it comes to reminiscing on their past victories

>we wuz romanz n sheeit
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>>135705336
Is that epithet frowned upon ?
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>>135705205
wait till le derpina hears about this! XD
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>>135705426
you're making it painfully obvious that you watch Shen the furry.
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>>135705465
Then I will make my walk of shame.

>>135705460
I guess I deserved it
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post shit border
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I blame "Big Benis in My Anus" for being a tryhard and bringing all the /r/paradoxplaza shits here
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>>135697568
Help please.
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>>135706057
fuck off reddit
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>>135706116
Fuck off
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>>135705550
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>>135706210
oh what, you upset now reddit? You can fuck off back to /r/paradoxplaza and post your shit there.
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>>135706310
Oh what, you're upset now?
You can fuck off.
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>>135707484
kek, it always kills me how triggered redditors get when they get called out. like they're ashamed of themselves.
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>>135686858
Hi there Reddit!
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>Try to make kebab a not boring blobfest by releasing everything west of constantinople after finishing off the blurple
>As I take countries with cultures that are too small to be accepted I release them
>Other than the first fight against QQ being slightly closer than a literal face stomp it's still as blobby as ever.

I tried
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>>135698928
SHOW ME YA MOVES
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>paradox could've added proper mechanics for crusading, so that it wasn't just one big kingdom of jerusalem, but many different little states depending on land occupied and different lords contribution
>instead they added a game-breaking infamy system
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>>135707930
>implying Paradox actually do anything other than playing HoI4 with DDRJake
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I want to conquer Formosa, Fengtian and Heilongjiang prior to westernizing as Shogunate Japan. How feasible is this? While Formosa seems easy enough, seeing as it's an island and lacks Qing cores, I'm unsure about the other two.
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>>135708148
SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP
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>>135708164
.........?
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>>135707539
Fuck off low life scum
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>>135706302
1. Why
2. How
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>>135708671
oh no, the redditor is mad at me!!!
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Who /hype/ for HoI4 here?
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>>135696769
MEXICO!
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>>135708812
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>>135708279
Don't mind me, just spouting /r/paradoxplaza memes
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>>135696769
It's because the Crimean war starts by event and not the diplo screen so therefore it can't stop you from being at war with your ally.
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>>135698281
good lord, America will have 100 Million pops by endgame
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>>135708812
SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP
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>>135708812
HYPE!
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>Americans spell the word 'organisation' with a z

Is this some fresh new hell I've descended into? Why have I never heard about this?
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>>135708812
When I look at a HOI4 video I can't tell what the fuck is going on.
When I watched HOI3 videos I could see markers and understand army compositions and movements. I even understood the order of battle. Because of this HOI4 just fails to capture my interest.
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>>135709339
lmao nerd, you don't understand that we want a wider audience.
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>>135709335
>Wu'uh Bo'uw
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Hey, /gsg/

I hope some of you still play Darkest Hour. I'm the guy that posts the peace without victory mod games if you saw them, you should pick it up, the start date is in 1920. Lots of alternate history wanking and flavor that DH enables - although it's still not fully fleshed out in the way some mods are, the last update was on the 9th, and there's already a lot here.

-Habsburgs can reclaim and reform their pre-war empire and ally with Nazi Germany (I know the Habsburgs hated the Nazis, but just role with it and have fun)
-Action Francaise can win elections in 1924, creating a new French monarchy

Right now I'm a Greece that won the post-war conflict with the T*rk, allied with the Little Entente that just got rocked by a resurgent Habsburg empire

I just dragged the Allies into the fight.
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1-2 play generic France game
3-4 play Polk's wet dream USA
5-6 play Egypt--->Arabia
7-8 play Persia
9 Finish watching Kaiji
0 The sweet release of death
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>>135700791
Kek
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Who /hype/ here?
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>>135705550
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>>135710138
>Theocratic Republic
Like space Iran?
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>>135710180
That Prussia is positively Epic my friend.
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So I redid Taiwan in HPM, reshaped provinces and added in one, as well as adding in Asian Minor Animist pops to represent the Taiwanese aboriginals. Now the Chinese are clustered along the western coastal plains and the mountainous interior is severely less populated.

The pop numbers are a rough estimate based on estimates of there being between 100 and 200 thousand aboriginals on the island at the time, and the 1930 census showing that they made up around 4% of the population.
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>>135710138
>science directorate
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hey hpm, you got rid of the cores for these nationalist rebels. they've been occupying the island for decades.
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>>135710283
>1890
>Ottomans still that strong
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>>135710274
>with knowledge in my artillery
So he can't form any precise arguments?
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>>135710423
That's HPM. People probably voted to keep the Ottomen strong.
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>>135710380
Maybe you should play a better mod
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>>135710380
It's the perfect fusion decision, NNM never set it to reduce militancy. Thanks, it's fixed.
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>>135710556
There is no better mod. Feel free to suggest one though rob
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>>135710651
Try vickymod.
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>>135710651
Visegrad Mod
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>>135710528
even when you vote to keep them strong, they lose, at least, Bosnia and Romania gets released. It looks like the Conference didn't happen at all.
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>>135710651
try unhmm
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>>135710638
What do you think of >>135710273
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>>135710638
>the perfect fusion decision
What?

Also there's another bug I got in this game. My cores in Austria got occupied by North Italian patriots but the cores reverted to me anyway. I think someone else had similar issue a few days ago.
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>>135710685
He asked for a better mod, not a worse one
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>>135710730
I think you mean unHPM.
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>>135710638
HPM, could you change Walvis Bay's terrain to semi-desert so pops move there?
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>>135710730
I will probably try that at some point.
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>>135710793
Nah, its unhmm now
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx
next week it will be something else for sure
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>>135710894
It will always be unHPM to me, m8.
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>>135710638
>>135644423

This guy fixed a few issues/added certain pops when he updated the Swiss minimod. Could you add it to HPM so there's some continuity between the mods?
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>>135710937
>>135710894
what's the difference?
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>>135695974
>>135696656
>>135697110
Me lad, please make it easier to core.
>>135710638
Also, what can I do to speed coring? What increases the time it takes to fire?
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>>135711002
Just the name unHPM shitposted under so much in the past.
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>>135710769
t. HPM
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>>135704826
ekaJRDD?
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>>135710731
It's a good job anon. If you'd like and allow, I'd integrate it.

>>135710743
Fusione perfetta. The decision removes the cores and adds south italian as accepted, but it doesn't reduce militancy.

I will take a look at the patriot rebels stuff. THey are largely NNM and had some problems with wrong scopes before.

>>135710816
It used to be like that but I wanted to slow down how fast the UK make it a state. Maybe I will revert it back to semi desert.

>>135710945
Sure.

>>135711041
Nationalism and Imperialism. Militancy and states with majority non primary cultures increase the time to fire.
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>>135711167
You're pretty funny, DDR"BestEU4PlayerAlive"Jake would appreciate that joke.
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>>135704826
>>135711167
BDRMike
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>>135711065
Any screens, or is it just willy posting
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>>135704826
So you're a france allying, HRE forming byzaboo that hates EU4 and loves Vicky 2?
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Redpill me on Conclave.
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>>135711308
There's nothing wrong with fRance
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>>135711167
BeatmaniaJohn
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rate my grossnipponiums (fucking USA sphered Korea, c.ucking me) I also own Java.
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>>135711273
*BRD
I got my Deutschlands confused.

>>135711291
It was mostly getting involved with shitposting arguments with his trip on. Not much, I still love him.
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>>135711273
BDRMike
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>>135711234
>Nationalism and Imperialism. Militancy and states with majority non primary cultures increase the time to fire.
Does having troops in the territory help? It should.
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>>135711576
No.
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>>135711684
Is N&I the only thing that helps? It's really pretty shit, 2 infamy per province and it always takes several decades to fire, if at all.
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>>135711234
Here's the pops and provinces, I used 2634 Beringovsky in Chukotka for the northernmost province and swapped around their localisations so 1485 (old Taipei) is now Tainan and 2562 (old Tainan) is now Taitung.

http://pastebin.com/c5Zf3JYe
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>>135710138
I can't understand this chart
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>>135712773
lmao looks at this pleb.
It's just been done by incompetent fags, probably muslims too
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>>135712773
any militarist allows you to be military dictatorship, junta or republic, but being an individualist stops you being a military dictatorship, a fanatic individualist stops you being dictatorship and junta, and collectivist stops you being a military republic.
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>>135711684
HPM, what happened to that sweet reddish colour Japan used to have? In this anon's post it's not there anymore >>135711340
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>>135713009
Wouldn't it make more sense to just have both sides of the chart be 'allow'?
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>>135711684
Would you consider changing Trinidad's RGO to Oil in 1918? That was the year they started producing more than 1m barrels per annum.
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alright lads, you guys pick the country. ill roll for the game.
1-2: CK2
3-4: EU4
5-6: Vic2
7-8: HOI3
9-0: /gsg/ chooses
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>>135713271
Or at least "respectfully forbids"?
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>>135711684
Hey HPM, you forgot to add "trigger_only_once" to the Polish Nationality evets
Now i am getting it every few days
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>>135713319
Play uninstall.exe
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>>135713319
okay, i guess

http://poal.me/ro48if
http://poal.me/ro48if
http://poal.me/ro48if
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>>135713319
Play Victoria revolutions as Sweden
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>>135713319
>9-0: /gsg/ chooses
Democracy 3
Congo
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>>135713271
No because then it'd get cluttered and would need loads more columns.

It's not exactly hard to read anyway, it literally tells you how to do it.
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what happens if I continue the war?
egypt is a satellite so I can't demand concessions
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http://poal.me/ady84g
http://poal.me/ady84g
http://poal.me/ady84g
http://poal.me/ady84g
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>>135713540
Ottomen will annex Egypt.
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>>135697472
>morrocans
did mongols/turkics ever reached to there
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alrighty lads im gonna do a vic 2 game, give me a fun cuntree, preferably away from europe.
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>>135713805
Ethiopia
Kramer Empire
Paraguay
Colombia
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>>135713805
Finland's a fun Central Asian country
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>>135713805
if you're up for a challenge try to form grossgermanium
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>>135713805
>preferably away from europe
Russia
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>>135713805
Funland
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>>135714115
>no actual Finland
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can you lose a puppet if reactionaries win, like you'd lose a sphere?
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>>135714209
Yes
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>>135714209
Will you form the British Federation, lad?
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>>135714115
why would anyone want to play in that region? Sieging shit is painful and provinces are worthless
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>>135714201
Karelia is literally "actual Finland" though.
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>>135713805
>>135713929
>>135713980
>>135714004
>>135714029
>>135714115
http://poal.me/2k20qg
http://poal.me/2k20qg
http://poal.me/2k20qg
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Post Ebig Spheres
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>>135714336
what's that?
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>>135714421
>unHMM

Fuck off.
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>>135714482
You get cores on Canada, Australia and South Africa.
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>>135714493
t.ß
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>>135713540
continue faggot
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How can you tell which Victoria 2 mods someone is using just from a screenshot?
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>>135714684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_-qftDlSww
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>>135714493
unHMM is a mad lad
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>>135714754
by the pixels and having seen quite a few mods in your time
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>>135714791
It isnt even unhpm faggot
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Thanks to kind anon from yesterday's thread, I managed to mod a rich zoroastrian Persia, which managed to survive kebabs, but was pushed back by caliphate and then Timurids. The point is, I don't know much about EUIV gameplay and balance, so I have no idea, what ideas would be appropriate for a successor to the Sasanian Empire. Any ideas?
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I want to fuck Link
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Encourage bureaucrat is a meme or it is useful ?
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>>135714754
little things, depends on the mod

>PDM
production tab at the top of the screen, all goods have different icons

>HPM
look for stupid bloat nations like there being 7 yemens, 5 malaysias, neuchatel, kurds. Also the Prussian-Belgian border and early in thee game the Canadian-American border.

>Robmod
atrocious country colours

Also no two mods or vanilla have the same China.
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>HPM
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>>135714754
because of features unique to that mod that are apparent in the screenshot
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>>135714917
me too lad
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>>135714917
I want to fuck Zelda
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>HPM
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>>135715282
But anon, Zelda's a boy.
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Reminder that the Ottoman Empire wasn't a civilized country in 1836, historically.
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>>135715525
Turkey still isn't civilised
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Reminder that the Russian Empire wasn't a civilized country in 1836, historically.
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>>135714810
based fellow oldfag
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>>135715715
us epic oldfags haha, get off my lawn kids!
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are there any fantasy or alt history mods for HoI 3? I've been playing with HPP and I'm a little tired of ww2
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>>135715928
haha xd this is epic! epic for the win!!!
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what does each do? The list of shit going on is too big to fit on the screen, so I can't see the differences
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Daily reminder that ALPHA is a gypsy autist
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>>135716231
looks like you got memed on
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if I'm helping my AI liege in a battle, do his troops get penalties from my difficulty level?
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>>135716231
Romanians are remnants of the Roman Empire. By calling us gypsies I suppose Caeser was too?
We were Romans.
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>>135716143
In one you basically accept their independence and in the second option you play as them. Or at least that's how I remember it.
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>>135716143
(1) release transvaal as puppet/sphereling

(2) play as transvaal
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>>135716394
yeah, chose 2 and lost 9 fucking months of anglo progress
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>>135716372
Once the roman empire was over, the modern romanian clombed down a tree
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>>135716486
>anglo progress
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>>135716486
>pick 2

>tag ENG
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>anglo progress
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>>135716486
>anglo progress
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>>135716619
oh, yeah, forgot about that

>>135716372
don't kid yourself
we're a mix of latins, slavs and thracians
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what
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>>135705550
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>>135717741
>israel untouched
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Where should I conquer now?

Any tips for me? Never played an unciv like this before.
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>>135716372
WE WUZ EMPERORS AND SHIET!
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>>135717741
What should I do now? Should I restart as a syrian minor and try to salvage the country or unite the balkan peoples under one flag and stop ISIS?
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>>135718072
Afghanistan and the rest of Kazakhstan.
As for tips go for university reform first provided you're playing HPM.
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>>135718254
>balkan
caucasian, not balkan
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>liberation
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>>135718391
Try to get Cuba released, changeowner to them any irrelevant province and hope that they refuse to lease Guantánamo if you want to see a truly ebin war
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>>135717895
>Romanian-Hungarian ying-yang
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Is there a way to annex puppeted countries in HPM?
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>First three words that come to your mind
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