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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, March 18th:
633 – Ridda wars: The Arabian Peninsula is united under the central authority of Caliph Abu Bakr.
1241 – First Mongol invasion of Poland: Mongols overwhelm Polish armies in Kraków in the Battle of Chmielnik and plunder the city.
1608 – Susenyos is formally crowned Emperor of Ethiopia.
1793 – The first republic in Germany, the Republic of Mainz, is declared by Andreas Joseph Hofmann.
1915 – World War I: During the Battle of Gallipoli, three battleships are sunk during a failed British and French naval attack on the Dardanelles.
>News
HOI4 DD 48
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# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
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>>EU4 - BDSM
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>>[CK2 - 2.4.5] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - 7 Years v0.1
http://pastebin.com/tsPsr70u

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.3.2 - 14/03/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.5
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[HoI3] YAMDaM v0.54
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md4tzqe2gg6stfv/

Old Thread >>135489903
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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WILLY
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There is literally nothing wrong with either National Socialism or anime.
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>Scottish engineering
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HoI 4 when?
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Why does everyone hate PDM? It's the only mod that attempts to fix Vic 2's horrible economy.
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>>135555701
June 6, 2016.
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>>135555624
>blobbing in china
>cheating
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GroßIndonesiums
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>>135555845
And fails miserably
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it's over

>>135555872
>>135555614
>>135555653
>cheated
it was just to trigger the fascist coup and get on with killing off chinks
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>>135556006
t. HPM/rob/rangerage
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>>135555845
HORSE
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12th for Nordic Hellas

http://www.armahellas.com/?p=120
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>>135555845
>attempts
exactly. It doesn't actually fix it
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>>135556015
>Using the console to turn yourself fascist

yep, that's cheating.
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>>135556134
Nazis actually inspired pagans.
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>>135556248
no, it's RNG encouragement
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>>135556015
Except it is cheating
It's easy enough to encourage fascist loyalty and revoke political reforms to get couped
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Is MCG around? I'm available to explain my ideas about the Megali Idea.
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>>135556183
It does fix it though, the price of stuff like sheep is raised so the farmers get more money and can buy more stuff.
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>>135556402
I was encouraging fascists for like >15 years and said fuck it
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>>135556403
blue snek
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>>135556403
>>135556594
Here's the less snekky version with just Asia Minor. Personally, I prefer the former because it includes the Greeks in Trebizond. With them, most of the Anatolian Greeks would be united under Greece (with the exception of the landlocked Cappadocian Greeks).
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>>135556403
I asked this last night but you fucked off, can you do one stretching to Antioch? With the Anatolian border being the Halys river and the Taurus mountains? Sort of like the third and ultimate gross Greece?
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>>135555624

ACH NOOH
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>>135556403
>>135556791
Better idea
Give Greece cores on Crimea, Circassia, and Southern Ukraine
Give fascist Greece cores on the whole black sea area
Go full Póntos Áxeinos
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>>135556809
Yeah, sorry, I went to sleep. The whole point of the Megali Idea was to unite all Greeks under on state, and taking all of the extra land you suggested would just be adding a ton more Turks to Greece and a negligible amount of Greeks. Sure, you would be free to take that land yourself in game. But cores wise, "Megali Full" would the extent of core provinces.
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rate my le ebin grossgermanium and europe, /gsg/
right thread edition

Also, give meme ideas to start a Great War I'm bound to have a hard time with for some epic colonial migration, so far I think the Namibia-Botswana-Rhodesia-South Angola colonies have only around 1m pops when put together.
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IMPORTANT POLL
http://poal.me/79mdeg
http://poal.me/79mdeg
http://poal.me/79mdeg

>>135556403
I'm here lad, explain your ideas
Thanks for posting earlier
>>135557045
t. Pavlos
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Why is the UK always #1 in industrial score?
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>>135557341
Because they learned from the Chinese the secrets of industrialization.
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Is Paradox going to do something about the bloat that India creates? It's lagging the shit out of my games and it's so isolated and I never play there.
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>>135557140
Why did you cut that bird's head off :^(
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>>135557125
o-oh..

Can you atleast change the states around so that in the North the state borders the river and in the south the states are the west Taurus and the East taurus.

Also, change the Syrian states so one is the coastal provinces, Antioch and Latakia and the other is all the irrelevant shit to the east like darz Al whatever and Damascus.
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>>135557480
This is one spicy fucking meme
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>>135557045
See >>135557125. At that point, you are just pointlessly blobbing with no historical precedence or realism whatsoever.

>>135557237
Not too much to explain really. The borders were inspired by pic related, as they would roughly encapsulate a majority of Anatolian Greeks. As stated before, the only Greeks that would be excluded would be Cappadocian Greeks and extremely tiny Greek communities scattered around inner Anatolia. Those could be handled through population transfers.

In regards to population transfers, I was thinking it should be possible, just have some set conditions. Given that the Turks would not willingly accept a population transfer of Turks from Thrace and Asia Minor, it would probably require that Greece occupies Turkey or controls them as a puppet. At the very least it would require Greece have Turkey in their sphere. With all the Turks being moved, you could spread them out among inland Anatolia. As for the small amount of Greeks in Turkey being moved to Greece, you could move most, if not all, to Constantinople, given that it would be very depopulated following the ejection of Turks from the area.
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>>135557613
>forgetting pic

>>135557237
What the fuck so you mean partition Albania, lad?
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>>135557613
States would remain the same, the only thing changed are provinces.
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>>135557702
Then at the very least give them cores on the Southern half of Crimea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_in_Ukraine
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Well this is new. I guess the Finns didn't take the war as well as I did.

What do? The second option gives me a boatload of dank millitancy, but I don't know what the first one does
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Why do so many ladposters like Vic 2?
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What do you lads usually listen to when playing each grand strat?
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>>135557921
Well, yeah. Can you do it?
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>>135557937
I'm aware of Crimean Greeks, but cores are up to MCG. In my opinion, I don't think Greece would want to anger Russia, given that Greece would find Russia to be a major ally (shared religion, history, and common enemy). Not to mention, there were never any historical claims (that I know of) during the time period towards Crimea, whereas the Anatolian coast was frequently claimed by Greek nationalist.
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>>135558364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pRLyyFdDjg&list=PLjyhVwHCfOPI62NOtmu8tK7f302PQKe5b
this while playing hoi3 and vic 2 desu
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>>135558364
anime music
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>>135557702
Can you show a megali map that shows Trebizond as a core territory of Greece or any document that shows they truly wanted it at the end of the war?

Are the province positions and names all edited too? I can do that if not. Why do you feel that this will add to Greece games?

>>135557826
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_Albania

>>135557937
>literally only 7% minority
>cores
t. putin
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>>135558364
Nothing
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>>135558364
either millitary marches, sabaton or some twitch stream
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>>135558364

The music of ur mum slurping my cock
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>>135558605
>implying numbers matter to a fascist ruler
t. adolf "there's a village with 500 germans on the other side of the world, we need to annex everything between us and the them" hitler
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>>135558364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OlnxPgY9zc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZVpR3Pk-r8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSuHrTfcikU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rAOyh7YmEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSemARaqGqE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_GH6M7cUq4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvouc8Qs_MI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9gKyRmic20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJRP3LRcUFg
http://www.youtube.co.uk/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnzGzoZHPPM
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>>135558791
*tips*
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>Pavlos Mod will never
>ever
>ever
>EVER
>get updated for new versions of DH
KILL ME
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How long is too long to press a claim? If France owned Iberia in 1000, just hypothetically, how long until you would take Frances claim away from them? Im assuming it would change with time, so lets add 1500 and 1900 too.
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>>135558952
>unironically listening to modern music while playing historical games
Kill urself me laddo
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>>135558364

https://youtu.be/lhLfVO5SHn4
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>>135558364
jpop (including denpa) and sometimes kpop
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>>135559204
This is terrible. I want to kill you.
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>>135558364
Gotta keep it comfy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJVoApMH-y4
When FilthyFrank/Joji drops his tape that's all I'm gonna listen to t b h
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>>135559160
>he doesn't like '80s pop
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>>135559278

wow rude

https://youtu.be/oVi08Dt0chU
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>>135558605
>Can you show a megali map that shows Trebizond as a core territory of Greece or any document that shows they truly wanted it at the end of the war?
Apologies for long link.

https://books.google.com/books?id=UPkBAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA23&lpg=PA23&dq=megali+idea+trebizond&source=bl&ots=fRrAsQtWyl&sig=pu2Pcx1AVZT9cs7M6ct_9kD3x_8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwv5OnkcnLAhUGFx4KHYYeASAQ6AEIKTAC#v=onepage&q=megali%20idea%20trebizond&f=false

>"The six cities named in his [Ioannis Kolettis] speech form a continuous horizontal limit that starts from Ioannina in the west, passes through Salonica, Serres, Adrianople, and Constantinople, and ends in Trebizond in the east."

>Are the province positions and names all edited too?

Province positions are edited, names are not. They don't really need to be edited though. It's up to you.

>Why do you feel that this will add to Greece games?
It'll add a goal for Greece to move towards/achieve. The hope would be that you would have a relatively homogenous, medium-sized empire (assuming you only expanded in the Balkans and Anatolia, which is unlikely).
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>>135559567
>>135559204
Been looking for female history asmr for months, my nigga. Shame she's a SJW.
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>>135558032
>>135558032
>>135558032
Please respond

does ANYONE know what it does?
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Ebin. Just ebin.
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>>135557613
>>135557826
Do you mean something like this? It looks very ugly, and like I said before, has no historical precedence.
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>>135559567
Who is this little nigga
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>>135559907
Blini
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>>135558032
>>135559829
Seems to be a glitch, seeing as how the popup claims it's the Swedish patriots that successfully revolted
I'm more curious about how you lost Finland so quickly tbhwy
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>>135559901
That's what you get for playing a meme game with a joke of an economy.
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>>135558869
wew lad

>>135559696
Well lad, you've partially convinced me. I'll add a decision to get a core on the single trebizond province if you own all your megali cores. Can you also upload your province map?
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>>135557237
Poll ended, absolute madman option wins
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>>135560031
>>135558032

Had the same thing happen to me as Romania. Northern Italian patriots occupied my cores in Austria and I ended up getting the whole lot back.
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>>135559902
Not even close, laddo.

I want one state to be from Heraclea Pontica to the Halys, with the southernmost part being lake Tuz.

Then another state from Cibyra to Celenderis, with the northernmost part being again, lake Tuz.

Then the third and final state being Adana, from soli-Pompeiopolis eastwards.
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>>135559907

top of the kots
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>>135560031
I got into a war with the Ottomemes mainly to get militancy to abolish serfdom early. the UK occupied all of Finland, they somehow got out of my sphere while occupied despite not falling to rebels. I didn't realize they were falling to rebels, since there's no indicator if they aren't in your sphere
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>>135558364
Vocaloid, Touhou mixes and patriotic North Korean music.
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>>135560907
so what slavic meme nation are you from
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>>135560907
>North Korean
>Not Soviet
Revisionist scum desu comrade.
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>>135560083
Is there any mod which fixes it? I'm tired of CK2 and I can't get EU to work on my computer, it just instantly crashes for some reason.
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>>135560907

>not using redstar OS
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>>135560907
>pixelating it so I can't judge your taste in touhous
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What if Stellaris is good?
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>>135560448
>you've partially convinced me. I'll add a decision to get a core on the single trebizond province if you own all your megali cores.
Why just Trebizond? The Greek majority in the area wasn't just in Trebizond, it was in the entire Pontus region (the teal, grey, and blue provinces in pic related).

Also, given that Greece would have to be in a very powerful position to even be able to take these lands, I don't see why they wouldn't push to take the rest of the Black Sea Anatolian coast (the pink and red provinces), which still had some Greeks in it, so that all lands are interconnected. I'd imagine it wouldn't exactly be fun to have to travel through Turkish territory to get to your exclave on land, and going by sea has its own problems.

>Can you also upload your province map?
Yeah sure, I'll put it in a dropbox due to filesize. Ignore province changes outside of Anatolia.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3gedq16k94jrs33/provinces.bmp?dl=0

>>135560713
Two things. First, like I said before, I'm not changing states, I'm changing provinces. It'd be nice if you could define what you want changed. Also, I'd really appreciate if you'd sketch what you want so I can go from there.
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>>135561078
HPM tries to fix it a little but he goes way too soft on minimum wages and factory paycheck shares.
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>>135561019
The UK.

>>135561164
My music collection is quite old and full of stuff I haven't listened to in ages. Didn't want to get into any arguments about what a pleb I am for liking [insert band], so I pixillated it to save myself the trouble.
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>>135561339
I'd really like to sketch it but I'm on phone so I can't.

Just make it so the natural border of Greece is the left bank of the Halys.
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>>135561421
I'm using HPM.
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>>135561318
Only if it allows for the aryian race instead of le WE WUZ KANGS meme
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>>135561339
I doubt the international community would view it as rightfully Greek, and Greece already gets a ton of cores out of decisions. With the Trebizond core they can take the entire state, but will still only have one core territory there.
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>>135555390
Latest Vickymod link: http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

Please have the OP updated next thread.
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>>135561031
/r/ingthat pic of the forum faggot who, when asked about his favourite ideology he said "Imperial communist, my personal favourite! ^_^"
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>>135561640
You probably just got sphered by the UK or something and that renders tariffs basically useless.
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are greco/byzaboos the worst, ugliest, and smelliest of the boos?
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>>135561789
t. rob
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>>135561930
t.**k
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>>135561882
Nope, just checked.

I think the reason my tariffs are so useless is because my administrative efficiency is so shit, but I'm stuck in a catch 22 in that regard because I don't have enough money to improve it in a timely fashion.
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>>135562182
What's the price/demand of coffee?
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>>135562347
link?
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>>135562296
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>>135561773
>they can take the entire state
Which includes provinces not even in the Megali Idea at all. See pic related.

>I doubt the international community would view it as rightfully Greek
I mean, that's up for debate, but for Greece to be in the advantageous position to demand it would warrant it. Not to mention Greece would have some level of international prestige and sway, since it has to be a Great Power anyways to take the Megali decision.
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>>135562529
The only idea I have is to research the techs on the monetary system line to increase your tariff and tax efficiency.
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>>135562595
Oh fug, you're right, I'll have to think it over

Thanks for all the suggestions, I may incorporate your map!
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>Latin Franks are super stable and form the SER
>Germanic Franks are killing themselves over petty land squabbles

I guess there's going to be no GroBgermaniums in this mega campaign.
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Are steel and machine part factories good to build together?
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>>135562595
Make the purple state coastal only, cut some northern land off the blue state and change Syria so the coastal provinces are one state and the inland is the other, then I can have ebin gross greeciums from Bethlehem to Bithynia.
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>>135563098
Any mods other than HIP?
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>>135563205
Lad, it isn't just about Greece. If it was, I'd reshape all the provinces and states to the old Byzantine themes. HPM is considering implementing the changes, and he wouldn't want changes that mess with history. That's especially why I haven't changed any state borders because they conform to the Ottoman (who in most games as well as at the game start control Anatolia) vilayets.
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>>135563458
Can ye not just do it any way, just for cracks?
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>>135563591
I've got better stuff to do than to make maps that will never be implemented in any mods, sorry.
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>>135563407
Lindbrook's Texture Mod, which will be integrated into HIP in the next version, replacing NBRT+
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>>135563098
>SER
What's that?
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>>135526951
But seriously I want to play the Glorious Northwest Front not some Mestizo shithole
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>>135563807
wah look who's the bloody keng
waddayou adda do thats even remotely empurtant
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>mfw my Peloponnese run took a very awkward turn when I realized the Muslims in Africa were extremely vulnerable due to recent decadence strife

I've gone from "maybe I could conquer Hellas and form the Kingdom of Morea" to "I now have a clear shot at forming a New Carthage."

Fuck.
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>>135563980
Saint-Empire Romain, the Frankish version of the HRE.
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>>135564371
Google translate for chrome m8
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>>135564371
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>>135564371
what the fuck are they saying
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>>135564371
>tfw not a single post about HPM on slav /gsg/
Based robmod fanbase :^)
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Are capitalists worth it for the taxes
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>>135565054
Aye, yah have to treat 'em like princes for the first half century though.
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>>135555574
Fuck yourself /pol/ shitposter, anime is not a shield to introduce nazi for real.
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>>135564371
why did janny take that down?
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>>135564792
such a thing may be arranged

>>135564658
discussions of grand strategy, too much eu4 for me
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This is at the start of the game. I thought I was cheating, but wanted to take on united Europe right away. Then these guys appear on my flank.
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>>135565374
Janny works in mysterious ways.
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>>135565638
anime is not your fucking shield nazi
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>>135565638
nice kike media
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>>135565638
>backwards swastika
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>>135565376
KEK
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>>135565852
ayy
>>135565797
lmao
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/gsg/ country flags when?
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>>135566080
Never
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>>135566080
what
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>>135566049
keep /pol/ shit in /pol/, is not that hard to understand
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>>135565638
I advise you take your degeneracy elsewhere. /gsg/ is under the eternal protection of /pol/ for our mutual benefit and prosperity.
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>>135566213
this isnt brit/pol/?
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>/pol/
>country flags
and this is how you ruin a board
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>>135566297
based anti-anime /pol/ack
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>>135566332
I'm not a brit lad
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>>135566297
>/pol/
>current year
It's been shit since flags, m8. Also, checked that file size.
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What modules do you guys usually install with HIP? Installing it right now and I don't know if I should install VIET or not. Yes, I know about the cock jokes.
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>>135566437
You got it all wrong, anime is fine, nazis are disgusting. Are you nazi?
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>>135566445
Well then fuck off back to /r/paradoxplaza.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pDPaCLiMlA
>we will never get the finale
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>>135566616
see >>135566630
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>>135566616
t. meneth
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>>135566630
(you)
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>>135565852
>Anime
>Kike media
Japan hasn't fallen to the jews.
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>>135566720
>>135566735
Are you nazi?
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>>135566823
see >>135566630
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>>135566770
>he doesn't realize ani-may is a plot pushed by kikes to keep otherwise active young aryan men docile and cucked
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>>135566823
http://poal.me/gw24yh
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>>135566890
What are you hiding nazi? Get the fuck outta here and take your shit >>135566892 with you.

You can't blame us for wanting our boards clean of you.
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>>135567046
friend, >>135566892 is a shitty falseflag which i suspect you to have some part in
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>>135567269
No, stop baiting idiot. You are not funny, all nazis like you are cowards and we have enough shitposting from /pol/.
Go away so we can keep going.
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Anime posters btfo
>>>>/a/
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Dat strategy tho.
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>>135567546
ok mr goldstien
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>you will never be a craftsmen living in 1875 ohio getting a comfy paycheck who emigrated from belgium and is now campaigning for better working conditions because he got a small cut working at the lumber mill
why even live laddios?
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>>135567812
>doesn't like anime
>doesn't like swastikas
>accuses others of being jewish
your jewish tricks won't work here schlomo
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>>135568075
autism
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>>135568075
nothing wrong with a few swastikas mate, it's the anime that I don't like.>>135566964
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>>135562807
Does your mod work with HPM?
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>>135567841
>48.4% socialist
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>>135568825
blame the immigrants
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>>135568621
>>135566964
If it takes badly drawn Japanese pornography to redpill these degenerates it's worth it.
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>>135568621
b-but I like anime
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>>135568893
are immigrants actually more likely to be socialist in vic 2, or are you just memeing?
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>>135567841
>100% everyday needs
>still a pissed off whiny socialist and won't shut up until he gets his reforms
wew
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>>135568893
>yankee
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>>135567694
what country is that
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>>135569024
i'm memeing but craftsmen are coded to lean towards socialism
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>gf gets new laptop
>I take her old one
>first thing I do is download steam, install CK2 and all DLCs
>decide to come back to /gsg/
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>>135569213
welcome back anon we missed you
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>>135569213
>I take her old one
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>>135569046
just like real life
Seriously, workers in America have their "everyday needs" today, yet they're still cambering for Bernie "geturfreestuff" Sanders because apparently I should be forced to pay for shadonqas sex change operation.
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>>135569295
I literally haven't posted on 4chan in a few years. Forgot about all this CAPTCHA and stuff. might have to get a new 4chan pass
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How does the game expect us to deal with these blobs...
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>>135569339
>Implying I can afford a new computer in this economy
>Implying I'm an American Robber Baron
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>>135569624
>being American
>being poor
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>>135567694
better than the micromanagement and monotony of hoi3. Honestly hype as fuck for hoi4.
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>>135569456
what mod is this?
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>>135569354
>workers

commies usually haven't worked a day in their lives.
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>>135569668
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>135569456
Oh I just figured out how it got this way. I set the game to flat provinces. But the prices are the same, so they got all those 10 development places for 3-5 points each.

>>135569685
Random nations, vanilla. Normal got boring. You get to see stuff like this every game.
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>europe is less socialist than america
>america literally has the workingmens' party in power
o-oh say can you see..
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>>135569456
coalition? alliances? support rebels? blob harder than the other blobs?
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>>135569689
You know it's weird
Lots of the communists I see would be first on the list to have all their shit taken and redistributed
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>>135569714
explain to me why this is fucking bad and I will throw you a bone
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>>135569685
Victoria 2
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>>135567694

Is that seriously the only provinces in the game? I haven't paid much attention to the development diaries so Idk what's up with the mechanics.

I probably won't upgrade anyway HOI3 is the shit.
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why can't we get rid of the rats in HoI?
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>>135569781
HPM fixed that shit in the newest version, he gave the liberals and conservatives so much loyalty that no other party can be voted in, which is good because fuck the commies.
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>>135569456
>1445
>Fascist France
>>
I've made a terrible mistake
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>>135570068
Im getting rid of all estate early. I shall rule with an iron fist.
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>>135569997

Because liberals. Even mods that change the German flag to the swastika are banned in most of yurop.
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>>135570068
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Popular_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France)
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>>135569974
I assume they are states/groups of provinces, like in vic 2.
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>>135569997

because wiz doesn't want to play a game with genocide
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what is that flag mod that makes flags more rectanganle?
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>>135570198
but I'm not in most of Europe
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>>135570228
The fuck do those have anything to do with
>1445
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>>135569839
>draw arrow to capital
>watch army take capital
>get pop-up about me taking enemies capital
>boy that was a fun and rewarding playthrough
They literally took the war out of HoI, it has been castrated.

>>135569805
Back in the day there were two groups, the rich and the poor, the rich felt naturally better than the poor and the poor just didn't cause too much off a stink.
Then the middle class emerged, people with enough money to go to university, study politics and generally be students, they still resented being looked down on by the rich and so through this they associate themselves with the poor, even though if I see any of those poofs round my fucking estate I'll smash their heads in
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>>135570313
rectanganle flag mod
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>>135570265
isn't wiz mainly working on Europa?
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when did these meme ideas sneak in?
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>>135570334

Same here brother I know your pain. I'd love the ability to carpet bomb civilian populations and events giving bonuses for exterminating undesirables.
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>desu you lads rip on hoi4 like Johan doesn't know what he's doing, he know exactly what he's doing
>Johan is undertaking a systematic effort to change hoi, to make hoi more like eu4 and ck2... it is a systematic effort to change Hearts of Iron
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>>135570883
women in history free dlc
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>>135571194
Rubio's a mess. A big fat mistake.
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>there are people in here RIGHT NOW who actually think vic 2's population mechanic is good
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>>135570883
what da fug

who is paradox trying to market to with this shit, hardly and females or tumblrites play games, let alone grand strategy.

or is this a meme
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>>135570003
>HPM is literally railroading even the parties of nations
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>>135570423
>spend 3 hours setting tech tree
>spend 2 hours setting up command structure
>spend an hour setting up production queue
>spend 5 hours waiting for war to actually break out
>spend 2 hours planning an attack
>attack fails miserably because I didn't properly micromanage 740 divisions with 200 command units.
>do identical play through with command structures giving separate commands to AI
>fails miserably because AI is retarded and puts units 5,000 provinces away and breaks supply lines

and how is this better again?
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>>135570423
Not him, but it's more rewarding than doing autistic OOB micro. HoI is supposed to be a grand strategy game not logistics officer and army planner simulator.

You do exactly as much strategy in HoI3 as you do in HoI2, but now spend like 90% of the time moving around little counters and building hierarchies like an autist. They didn't improve the strategy at all. Just went all in on fucking army planning for no reason.

If you prefer that shit, more power to you, but it makes a horrible strategy game.
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>>135570883
Funny thing is these take up an idea slot. So by making your nation have women with more power you make your nation weaker then all others.
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>>135571430
HoI3 plays faster and more smoothly than HoI2, speaking as someone who is good at both.

OOB is entirely optional and its not that hard to manage armies well.
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>>135571338
t. wiz
>>135571401
>how is this better again?
by getting gud
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>>135571353
paradox interactive is a swedish company based in stockholm.
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>>135571401
>spend two hours planning an attack
>spend 3 hours setting up tech tree
I'll concede the other two points if you're shit, but you cannot possibly need that long for the other two
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>>135571401

Because you are a fucking casual who needs to git gud. Poland is literally babbys first invasion.
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>>135571430
>>135571401
>oob hate meme
t. dh dev mad his game is babby tier
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>>135571401
>he doesn't like micromanagement
"Grand"
"Strategy"

Perhaps Civ is more your scene, laddo.
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>>135571194
but seriously lads hoi4 will be a good game please preorder
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>>135571639
Civ 4 can get crazy autistic on the micro lad
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>>135571468

As long as they are optional you can just ignore them. I agree it's a dumb idea though. Leave it to a swede to be cucked.
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>>135571774
the earlier games are always more autistic. I'm pretty sure civ 2 had a proper government system that actually effected how you play, eg Congress blocking you from declaring war. I usually went fundamentalist tbqh
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>>135571639
>implying civilization isn't far more complex than "Grand Strategy" games
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>>135571401
Just play DH like every sane person
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>>135571774
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>>135572031
I just threw up a little in my mouth
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>>135572079
have you ever played IV desu
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>>135572041
how do I get into DH family, I've played it for a few hours but couldn't really get into it. What's a good tutorial nation?
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>>135572338
Step 1: Bind pause to space bar.
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How does one lad genocide in new world order?
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>>135571526
I don't agree. I played thousands of hours of HoI2, but HoI3 is torture unless you use AI to manage your troops and just forget about them. That's not good, it takes away any and all ability to actually control your army and the AI does really stupid shit.
I didn't say it was "hard" either. It's just so mind numbingly boring and time consuming. Takes fucking HOURS to set up the OOB, specially if you're like me and want to have proper armeekorps names and shit.

This doesn't improve the game as a game.
It just simulates something that has very narrow appeal and in the end the game as a whole suffers for it. Like I said, you're welcome to play HoI3, but by God am I glad that OOB shit is gone. It was an interesting experiment that failed.
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>>135572632
>acts autistic
>surprised when it becomes slow

I literally don't make an OOB in 95% of games, and I've never renamed a unit because who gives a fuck. Turns out the game plays fine if you don't intentionally try to screw it up.
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>>135572495
Is there at least a cheat in venilla, I cannot get a facist party in power
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>>135572338
Find a tall building and ride up its elevator to get accustomed to the DH game mechanics.
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>>135572889
Why do you even care about that feature if your suggestion is "don't use it"?
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>>135572632
>but by God am I glad that OOB shit is gone. It was an interesting experiment that failed.
Paradox must be releasing soon, their PR people always crawl out of the woodwork around this time.
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>>135572889
>I've never renamed a unit
I think you are missing the point of the game mate
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>>135573043
Who said I cared about that feature?
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>>135573197
>being this autistic
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>>135572041
dh isn't much better
I mean, it's a better game, but only slightly less autistic
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>>135572632
>HOI3 is boring because I'm forced to spend hours renaming units
you're retarded
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>>135573197
If you enjoy typing names into text boxes, may I suggest playing Notepad.exe?
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>>135573338
>not playing vi
>not playing emacs
git gud
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>>135573213
You are kind of replying to me after I made a point that the defining feature of HoI3 is bad.

Why wouldn't you just play HoI2 or DH or whatever? HoI3 doesn't really improve in any key areas over those. So the only thing it has is the OOB autism.

>>135573332
Learn to read zealot.
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>>135573487
>three-province barbarossa
so much strategy
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>>135573485
>not using vim or nano
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>>135573338
The fun part isn't the typing, it's the immersion. Personally having a clusterfuck of differently numbered armies kind of annoys me. Also these games are autistic anyway, they're not meant to be casual mobile games or something.
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>>135573338
he clearly doesn't enjoy it, it's that he has to do it because the feature exists; yet another reason that hoi3 is terrible
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>>135573872
I was talking more about every pdox game, not just hoi3.
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>>135573872
>HoI3 doesn't let you control armies you haven't personally named
Of all the wews I've ever wewed this one is up there with Nazi inspired paganism and 10th century Chinese industrial revolutions based solely on steel production.
>>
can't we all agree that hoi4 will be better than hoi3 and dh and we will preorder it
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>>135574070
Other pdox games aren't about army structuring.
>>
Doesn't even deserve a (You) desu johan
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>>135574201
yes. i can also scarcely contain my excitement for stellaris, which i too shall preorder
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>>135574292
>>135574201
inb4 >go away johan
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>>135574201
Let's not forget that this >>135470285 was a real post.
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>>135574226
I wasn't talking about army structuring you mong, I was saying that stuff like naming your units is part of what makes the game fun, not just blobbing everywhere or forming grobdeutschland. I'm not this guy>>135572632
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>>135573872
>it's that he has to do it because the feature exists
Now that's advanced autism.
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>>135574675
That's part army structuring, retard.
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>>135574727
>A lot of people felt intimidated by the armies and specifically their names, so we removed army names from the game so people aren't put under too much pressure.
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>>135574871
what are we even arguing about anymore, I forgot
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>>135574926
It's not intimidating, it just adds nothing to the game. The only thing that makes HoI3 better than HoI2 is the bigger map.
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>>135575019
>A lot of people felt intimidated by the map and specifically their provinces, so we removed province names from the game so people aren't put under too much pressure.
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>>135575143
They removed province names from HoI3? And people play that shit??
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>>135575019
I bet you're hyped for Drawing Arrows Simulator 2016, aren't you?
>>135575208
No that's hoi4
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>>135575143
>A lot of people felt intimidated by encirclement and specifically destruction of armies, so we removed unit destruction from the game and will allow defeated units to retreat to their capital so people aren't put under too much pressure.
>>
Hi friends I'm new what do you do around here?
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>>135575484
purchase dlc and preorder
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>>135575402
>A lot of people felt intimidated by units and specifically controlling them, so we removed player control of units from the game so people aren't put under too much pressure.
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>>135575402
>A lot of people felt intimidated by this new meme and specifically it being forced, so we reported and ignored from the thread so people aren't put under too much pressure.
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>>135575612
t. report and ignore autist
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>>135575361
>provinces in HoI3 weren't even in the right place or the right shape
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>>135575484
Buy my new games coming out soon such as hearts of iron 4 and stellaris
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>>135575742
>provinces in hoi4 aren't even provinces
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>>135575742
>provinces in HOI2/DH were so big the western border of Russia was only three provinces wide.
>>
poal.me/uhhr6d

poal.me/uhhr6d
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nearly 20 years of consolidation and I'm starting to get somewhere, Chinese regions are starting to become states which means goodbye literacy but hello industry. Mongolia is the only unclaimed core region left and that'll be dealt with after a war with Russia.

What should my SE Asia policy be? I've got Burma sphered right now but no other presence south of my borders.
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>>135576951
epic
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>>135576951
Who's the Chinese emperor?
Che ting?
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>>135573487
>OOB and renaming units are the defining features of HoI3.

No, I think a far better combat system, smaller provinces, more depth in unit configuration, better air combat, better naval combat, better supply system, better terrain system, better research system, and better production systems are the defining features of HoI3.
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>>135577180
Y'know you'd get a lot more upboats for this abhorrence on >>>/r/paradoxplaxa
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>>135577180
Research system is not better. Terrain is, supply is, air combat and naval combat were both shit in HoI3 and shit in HoI2. So nothing changed.
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>>135569974
Those are regions, the image isn't zoomed in far enough to see the provinces.
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>>135577797
>HoI2 research
>Every time something researches you need to go to the research screen, scroll through dozens of tech teams to find the best one, then select a new tech.
>Tech is railroaded by what tech teams you have

>HoI3
>Just queue up dozens of techs once a year and don't interrupt gameplay every other week.
>Nations all have starting research aptitudes that can adjust over based on what they are actually doing.

>HoI2 naval/sea combat
>lol submarine and TAC/NAV doomstacks.

>HoI3 naval/sea combat
>Not completely retarded.
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Best newb country for Darkest Hour?
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>>135578675
The space bar.
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>>135578675
Germany is fine. Don't take anything to do with Navy because DH naval combat is literally broken and naval invasions are a bit stupid and unwieldy.
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>>135578675
Germany
>>
Reminder to report and ignore shitposting
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>>135578207
>>HoI3 naval/sea combat
>>Not completely retarded.
HOI3 naval is pretty bad, especially when a single 3-stack of NAV can shred a fleet, even one with carriers, because for some reason "CAG Duty" doesn't include "sortieing to fight attacking naval bombers", you have to notice that the fleet is being bombed (lol have fun noticing that while you fight a "world war") and then manually select that CAGs for air superiority duty to get them to fight back.
Naval clashes in general in HOI3 also just don't feel very meaningful, it's pretty typical for the losing side to escape without casualty even when they were hopeless outclassed from the start of the engagement (you have to go to that fleet and keep micro'ing them onto the retreat province in order to start getting some kills), this leads to a tendency to have tons and tons of fleet battles just because it's so easy for a fleet to zip off with moderate damage, repair in a month or two, and race back out to fight again. Historical battle fleet engagements between major powers almost always resulted in meaningful losses (not just destroyers and cruisers) which were not easily replaced, and even repairs could put a vessel out of action for a year or more.
>>
The big flag frames mod doesn't wurk
>Why?
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>>135579596
>HOI3 naval is pretty bad, especially when a single 3-stack of NAV can shred a fleet, even one with carriers, because for some reason "CAG Duty" doesn't include "sortieing to fight attacking naval bombers", you have to notice that the fleet is being bombed (lol have fun noticing that while you fight a "world war") and then manually select that CAGs for air superiority duty to get them to fight back.
CAG duty in HoI3 includes stopping NAVs and other bombers, they simply don't launch if their ORG is low. Good players usually make 2-3x as many CAG as they have carriers just so they can rotate them in and out constantly.

>Historical battle fleet engagements between major powers almost always resulted in meaningful losses (not just destroyers and cruisers) which were not easily replaced, and even repairs could put a vessel out of action for a year or more.
That's because you only hear about historical battle engagements that resulted in meaningful losses. No one hears about "2 fleets came within 100 miles of each other, one side decided to run away".

None of this compares to HoI2's horrific Naval Combat, where 10 Heavy Cruisers are stronger than 10 Heavy Cruisers + 1 Battleship.
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>>135545917
WE
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>>135580823
>aristocrats are allowed to become communist
>this is with "H"PM
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>>135580715
>CAG duty in HoI3 includes stopping NAVs and other bombers
CAG won't launch against just NAV, lad. Without something else to start an air battle over the carrier sea zone, such as an enemy air superiority stack, or a friendly stack doing intercept/superiority, CAG will sit on their carrier as it's bombed to shit unless you intervene. NAV get a sneak attack bonus thing which I assume breaks CAG behavior and causes them to never launch.

>No one hears about "2 fleets came within 100 miles of each other, one side decided to run away".
Obviously, but you're trying to tell me that this is modeled in HOI3 as "2 fleets came within 100 miles of each other, closed, and took heavy but non-fatal damage before one fleet fled but the player wasn't looking so he couldn't tell his fleet to follow the defeated stack to destroy it", which is retarded. Fleets being in adjacent sea zones is how fleets being nearby but deciding not to engage is modeled.
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I'm going to be working on a little personal mod, wish me fun lads.

>Catholic East:
Constantionple abolished the patriarchates of Antioch, Jerusalem, and Alexandria, and proclaimed itself Pope.

>Orthodox West:
Rome stood against it, and the former patriarchates were relocated to areas of the West. In this timeline, the Schism is way more violent and their hate is more akin to Sunni-Shiite.

>Coptic Abyssinia:
Strong, numerous Animist and Jewish foes, as well as potential Catholic enemies

>Sunni Islam:
Islam formed around Germany and spread around Europe, which had not been Christened as much in this timeline.

>Shiite
The British Isles, Low Countries, and Denmark are go against the more spread Sunni Islam. They'll more pro colonization and exploration than their Sunni counterparts.

>Ibadi
Powerhouse Dalmatian kingdom

>Northern Pagans
Norse, Finns, and Balts all grouped into a single religion group. As Islam threatens their way of life, the Northern "Pagans" started to compromise more with each other in order to survive.

>Jews and others
Half of Arabia is Jewish, and they spread over to the Horn and nearby islands. Persia is Zoroastrian, and the Steppes are mostly Tengri. New Berber religion in Morocco for some cool ideas I have for an event chain.
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>>135581669
>CAG won't launch against just NAV, lad. Without something else to start an air battle over the carrier sea zone, such as an enemy air superiority stack, or a friendly stack doing intercept/superiority, CAG will sit on their carrier as it's bombed to shit unless you intervene. NAV get a sneak attack bonus thing which I assume breaks CAG behavior and causes them to never launch.
None of this is true though. Please point out where NAV get these mysterious bonuses.
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>>135582403
>personal mod
Then don't post about it here.
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>>135582559
What I mean is that I'm making it for myself, not for an audience or whatever, but if it turns out ok/decent, and y'all like it I could give a download link.

I just wanted to know what y'all think about this meme-tier idea.
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>>135582449
>Please point out where NAV get these mysterious bonuses.
defines.lua
This is the only explanation I can think of that would cover why CAG won't launch against NAV. It would kind of make sense that a surprise attack would prevent launching an air defense for the duration of the surprise attack bonus, but it seems to prevent launching even after the bonus is over.
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Reminder to report and ignore liquor and bureaucrat posting.
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>>135582641
t. steve

making a thing "for yourself" is the most common excuse as to why that thing is shitty, and it's not a valid excuse. if it was really for yourself you wouldn't need our validation. if it's not just for yourself then you're not really making it for yourself are you.
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>>135582774
That's the insufficient support penalty, which only gives you a *chance* of getting surprised if you have too many capital ships vs. escorts. If you have at least a 1:1 ratio then you can't be surprised.
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>>135582807
wew
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>>135582916
Yeah, remember when HPM was making a mod "for himself"? What a load of shit that turned out to be.
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>>135583079
You're really trying to tell me that
AIR_COMBAT_NAV_SURPRISE_CHANCE = 25, -- Chance of attacking naval bombers getting a surprise bonus (%)
is based on my capital:escort ratio? Do you have any support for that hot-headed claim?
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>>135582701
>>135582689
>>135582648
>>135582595
>>135582183
>>135581869
>>135581797
>>135581762
>>135581612
>>135575254
what did he mean by this?
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>>135583232
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did someone say wew
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>he was in line to inherit the throne his entire life
>the succession laws held him as the sole heir to the throne of Spain
>bitch queen maria demands dying king change the succession laws on his death bed
>he's too weak to refuse
>throne goes to fat bitch daughter who's only three years old
>this is somehow seen as the rightful succession
>fat bitch daughter grows up and is dethroned because she's a cunt who isn't fit to rule
>this handsome motherfucker was never given his birth right
Why was this allowed, lads?
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What was the website that showed you a political map from ancient times to modern times? As in, you could pick any date and it would show you the closest thing to it.

It was really interesting.
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>>135583964
http://geacron.com
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How good is this industry
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>>135584589
But Rob told me only Liqour was profitable and that post 1900 everything crashes as every single good is overproduced? Either Rob is a filthy fucking lier or this screenshot is artificially edited and I know which is more likely.
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>>135584697
Hello HPM!
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>>135584589
>hannover
Post Map and Culture Map laddie
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>tfw factory unemployment is almost never a problem in vic 2 and an unemployment rate of 0% is normal
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>>135584589
Post Borders
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>>135585220
just like real life
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>>135585237
>>135585104
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What about this
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>>135585353
>1894
What the fuck are you trying to do?
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>>135572632

It takes me about 20-30 mins at the start of the game to get Germany's OOB set up, and a few 10 minute micromanagement sessions here and there to keep it consistent until Barbarossa is completed. The restructuring after a successful barbarossa is a bit time consuming, but by that point the game is won anyway. Even switching the OOB west after Poland is eaten isn't that bad.

I have played Germany games all the way through Barbarossa and Sealion without ever being overly burdened by the warfare mechanics, and never letting the AI touch a single slider or unit. At least to me they are intuitive and immersive, which is what I want in a Grand Strategy game.

If I want to play something casual I'll play axis and allies or rise of nations. When I want to fully flex my autism I play HOI3.

Dumbing down the mechanics for casuals does little service to the series since it was meant for people who want to fully immerse themselves in the micromanagement required to wage a full scale war.

It was always meant to be a niche market. Trying to casualtize it kills it, kind of like what happened to the simcity series.
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>>135584697
That's what HPM said m8.

I said that demand is artificially deflated due to tax rates going up too high and factories not paying workers a high enough % of their wages. Every good in the game is profitable if there is demand for it. Believe who you want, play HPM if you want his artificially nerfed production to fix his own artifical problems.
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>>135585596
What's the factory profits to wages value in Robmod?
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>>135585353
>45k stacks
What? Did people really fall for the "4/4/1/1 is shit" meme?
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Dubs chooses which country I play in Kaiserreich, now that I've finally got it working properly with DH.

inb4 someone asks me to WC as Liberia or some stupid shit
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>>135585353
Can you zoom out a little bit please?
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>>135585753
WC as Liberia
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>>135585753
>dubs
>/vg/
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>>135585753
Germany's Africa. Conquer all of Africa and the Middle East, then become Drakka.
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>>135585705
The 4/4/1/1 meme'd make 30K stacks.
And what's wrong with it?
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>>135585705
>>135586142
Oh my bad, read it as "the "4/4/1/1" shit meme".
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>>135585705
>>135585353
I was seriously asking, lad, why are you using them? I saw dedalus using something similar so I'm curious.
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>>135586484
Probably to cap provinces faster.
Wouldn't explain why there's a missing art, though.
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If I'm pretty decent at Victoria 2 am I ready to just launch and play CK without watching a bunch of tutorials and shit?
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>>135585753
There's no dubs on /vg/ you baka.
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I'm playing HPM as Germany and I want to implement a population transfer between myself and Russia. Specifically, I want to exchange the Russian population of Crimea—which I own—for the Volga Germans. Is there an existing event which I could easily mod in order to do this?
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Is there a 1821 start mod for V2?
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>>135587676
What is it with you and German Crimea lad?
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>>135587854
Concert of Europe
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>>135588297
I've made like 3 posts. You're spending too much time here.
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What would you call the Greeks in the red/arrow?

Western, Eastern, Bosporan, Middle, and Pontic are all Greek cultures. As in Western Greek, Pontic Greek, etc.
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>>135589187
Bosphoran?
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>>135589187
I'd call em' Turks
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>>135589187
russia
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>>135589187
Thracian I'd suppose for the part west of Constantinople
Dunno about the eastern side.
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>>135589187
Are you making a culture mod or something?
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>>135589262
>>135589272
>>135589296
>>135589335

I know the strait is called the Bosphorus, but the Greek kingdom in Crimea was called the Bosporan Kingdom. Anyways, I'll disregard that and just do this.
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>>135589187
Maybe "Propontine", as in Propontis: the ancient Greek name for the Sea of Marmara.
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>>135589531
See: >>135582403
Just making a mod for an idea I had while taking a shower after playing GS for about 12 hours straight.

>>135589608
That could work, then I could keep the ones in Crimea as Bosporan.
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>>135589564
Whats the white one?
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>>135589694
Is it for CK2?
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>>135589970
EU4. In a timeline where the Arabs never chimped out, so the Middle East, North Africa, and Persian remain as they were.

A timeline in which the Germanic invasions didn't hit as hard, and the Germans were Muslim. Slavs were also Islamized.

A timeline in which the Turks and Mongols never hit home.
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WE WUZ DOGES AND FAGGOTS
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>>135590331
epic :)
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>>135590331
>the chaste
He takes dicks like a thief in the night
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REMINDER
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Reminder that Vicky 2 is unplayable and only Robmod fixes its flaws and makes it a decent game.
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>>135591213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_-qftDlSww
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What lands outside of the HRE should I aim for with pic related?
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>>135585883
>>135587135
I never got why they removed them only on /v/ and /vg/ but left them on /tv/
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>>135591305
Australia
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>>135591305
balkans
egypt
ethiopia
somalia
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>>135591476
Other than colonies?
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>>135591305
In the same vain, who should I play as and what should my goals be as pic related?
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>>135591627
Make a snek from Vienna to Siberia
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>>Which of these men are higher on the spectrum??

>>Which of these men touched your daughter??
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>>135592123
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Little "G" in Germany is Gepids.

What should I put in Hungary? Maybe Hun remnants?
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>finally get an alliance with Ming
>royal marriage ended 2 months later because their leader died
>they implode
why
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>>135592592
Avars.
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>>135591730
Guys?
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>>135592620
I'll finish the map tomorrow, and then will get going on adding the cultures and localization. Good night /gsg/.
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>>135593576
Do my eyes deceive me or is that one hell of a meme?
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>>135593819
One hell of a meme.
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>>135593853
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CUTE!
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>>135594682

This is mildly alarming.
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whats the deal with yamdam and new world order

did they just stop making the mod

every modern day mod for every gsg is just a mess of unfinished garbage

fucking east vs west. im still mad

it doesnt make sense, they were done. IT WAS FUCKING FINISHEDOIAHJNSDOIASJDOASJDOIAJD
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behold, i have spawned the ultimate final boss of grand strategy
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>>135594938
final form
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>>135595075
delete this
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>>135585573
The mechanics in hoi4 aren't "dumbed down", the focus is just shifted to production. Compared to that, hoi3 has babby tier production mechanics.
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>>135592592
>transylvania is not brown
come the fuck on
you're falling for memes
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>>135595389
>The mechanics in hoi4 aren't "dumbed down"
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Any HPM add-ons you guys use/recommend?
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>>135595632
Give me an example of something that's been dumbed down.
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>>135562529
Just Warri my shit up, thats what I am doing. I justify it somehow by freeing the niggers and the UK gave permission to have some niggerland of my own. Sound super autistic what anyhow it gives you enough money to sustain your banana economy. Brazil is suffering.
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>Play as Karlememe
>Unify all of Francia and Germania, and create HRE

>Fast forward 100 years and im playing some count in India
>The karling on the throne creates Francia and Germania, splitting up HRE into three shitty empires

This shit is retarded, why would he do that?
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>>135585596
Rob as usual with the eloquent, rational and thought out response to stick it to the HPM kiddies who argue solely from emotion.
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>>135595827

>>135576707
>>
>have to write a 300 word essay on why not voting for Hillary is sexist due monday
>can't stop shitposting on /gsg/
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Nicholas
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>>135595075
>>
>exhibition on franz joseph opened this week because of the 100 year anniversary of his death in 2016
>no /gsg/ bro to go there with

Sadness
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god all realist arts +30
prestige whoring at its best
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>>135596498
>prestige whoring
>while russia conquers clay for you in the back ground

Does it get an more scummy than that?
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>>135596491
>getting raped by a /gsg/ autist in some austro-hungarian hostel
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>>135596738
>hostel

But- but I live in Austria, anon.
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>>135596498
>Encourage Intellectuals 3.68%
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Why did they have to make Vickys infamy system pants on head retarded?

Why?
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>>135596932
Tell me how it's retarded
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>>135596989
Most of it comes from rolling a dice

Are you retarded too?
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>>135596613
no
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>>135597029
>he doesn't savescum
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>>135596932
Because anything decent would have taken effort.

>>135596989
How is every GP on earth declaring war on you for conquering two african OPMs not retarded?
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Hi there, new to gsg. I have just finished my zoroastrian Persia run in ck2 and I want to "import" it in EUIV. I don't want to use converter, because I want Ottomans and Muskovy in my run. Are there any special ideas for zoroastrian Persia from ck2, like legacy of Saoshyant or something? Can I add them in custom nation editor?
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>Try to assemble army.
>Can't buy canned food.
>I'm third in prestige.
>France and the UK mobilized, no canned food for me.
rip

>>135597029
If you want to get mad at dice, get mad at battles.
1d10 is fucking retarded. They should have gone for 3d6. It'd be heavily weighted toward the 8-13 range. And bonuses could stay the same and still mostly work.
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>>135597376
If you want to add new ideas your best option is to mod them in, for God's sake don't use the nation editor
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>>135597486
>not manually stockpiling military goods
It's your fault anon
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>>135597486
>third in prestige
>not self sufficient in every regard

Prestige shitters pls go
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>>135596879
you in vienna?
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>>135597670
Yeah
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>>135585753
Annex Germany and become the German Empire as Austria.
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>>135595770
OOB you dolt
>>
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-49th-development-diary-18th-of-march-2016.914324/
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rip prussia
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>>135597576
Can I mod starting scenario?
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>>135597774
Le perfidious albion face
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>>135597712
where in vienna? i used to live in simmering

I think they had a franz joseph exhibition when I was there 2 years ago for the ww1 centenary
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>>135578940
How are you supposed to kill the eternal anglo then?
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>>135597718
Did you know the 90% of Hoi3 players don't even futz around with OOB?

It's totally pointless.
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>>135597892
Doesn't matter, it's still simplified. And the people who don't use OOB usually only play for a few hours before giving up, OOB is the most fun part of it IMO.
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>>135597853
Liesing. it's technically vienna, okay?
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>>135597801
Sure, just make a mod file and edit that, pic related is a ck2 campaign that I transferred over manually
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>>135569997
It's ahistorical since the Holocaust didn't happen in real life.
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>>135598007
Kek. Muh 6 million jokes never get old
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>>135597593
>>135597637
I just jumped up in prestige due to forming Italy, passed from 4 states to most of Italy.
Also, I had decisions and events taking the little states' cores away but I still have rebels for them, what the fuck.
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So what's the benefit of genocide?

Is it just an event that gives .03 infamy or what
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>tfw France declared ANOTHER war for A-L
>30 regs less than Germany
>Realize they're going to get BTFO
>Germany is allied with Sweden and France brings the Netherlands into the war.
>Decide to accept and watch frogs get occupied
>Great wars are enabled the second I enter the war.
>fug.jpg
>Don't want to get disarmed and have Russia pounce and take my cores.
>Send an expeditionary force of 60k men to capture Berlin with the complicity of Austria
>The Netherlands slow down the germans and distract them from Paris
>Success!
>Send all my army by batches of 60k men and mobilize
>Germany's front stagnates in the outskirts of Paris
>They send 100k men to recapture Berlin and Silesia
>Netherlands peaces out and gets disarmed
>By now I have 120k men near the place
>Spend 2 years baiting german stacks and bringing reinforcements
>Attrition and battles wear out the german armies in France
>France's army now consists of 40k men.
>Bring an expeditionary force to France to reverse the front and recapture the Franche-Comté
>Warscore slowly ticking up
>Germany surrenders and gets disarmed.
>tfw Willy probably spazzed out at the terms and brought his concerns to his personal painter who also hates the french..
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>>135597774
>anglos killing the aryan man
poetry

>>135597968
>liesing
and I thought simmering was out in the sticks
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How do I go about avoiding this?

Starting a new play through as KuK.

>>135597974
Is that BtP?
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>>135598109
remove unaccepted pops.
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>>135598163
No, it's a converted game
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>>135597774
they white peaced
well, they did do something else for someone special from the balks and his big buddy :^)
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>>135598163
Avoiding what? The options are pretty straight forward
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What game can I play australia in?
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>>135598445
Why not take dalmatia holy shit do you hate pretty borders and coast and gold? What the fuck
>>
>>135597974
Wow, that is almost exactly the map I want. Could you upload it somewhere? Also, does "lucky nations" option works with converted maps?
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>>135598534
ANything from EU4.
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>>135598536
I needed zagreb
dalmatia remains a core so it can wait
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>>135598534
Hearts of genocide and Victoria
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>>135596910
the cap is 4%, me lad
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WE
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What is the mod that lets you give everyone max crown authority/centralisation in CK2 for EUIV conversion?

Also, does anyone have a link for the latest Lux Invicta?
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>>135598296
I mean the mapmod.

>>135598468
When I propose the Confederation, I don't want Hungary to reject and ultimately lose them as an accepted culture.
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>>135598163
>those borders
>still just 3
Slav land really is worthless, huh?
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>>135598665
WUZ
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>>135598675
Remove militancy, enable save scumming
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How do I get rid of the temperance league and its +0.01 militancy?
Playing HPM.
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>>135598749
Some random event about opening a tavern or something like that.
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>>135598749
You get an event to remove it later. But no reason to remove it. That militancy just means free reforms
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>>135598846
>That militancy just means free reforms

And 6.74M militant socialists
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>>135598675
The mapmod is theatrum orbis terrarum
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>>135598296
Is that vanilla ck2?
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>>135598846
Playing Italy theocracy from Papal States. Right now this still means minorities nationalists even though they lost their cores.
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>>135599013
I swear the provinces look different as well.
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>>135599114
Try restarting game. That's how i got rid of them in my italy game.
Also post map and plans
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>>135599145
They are, I changed them manually by mashing together different map mods
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>>135599203
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>>135599203
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>>135598665
>ethiopian and nubian unit pack
>bantu nose
wew
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>>135599278
Which ones?
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>>135599436
Is pic related supposed to be your example of a bantu nose? looks pretty aryan desu
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>>135598665
>>135599203
>>135599393
I don't get it.
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>>135599508
No, it's an ethiopian. You can see the bantu noses in the unit pack
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How the fuck do air battles in HOI3 work? How do you establish air superiority?

>send heavy bombers (strategic bombers) over to runway crater the fuck out of Norwich
>send some fighters over to accompany them and fight their battles
>UK hits me with some fighters of their own, who don't get hurt one bit while my planes suffer the most

Should I send the fighter planes over first? Should I order them to 'air superiority' above the British air bases then send in the heavy bombers to bomb those bases and rape the RAF? Spare me some golden nuggets of information HOI3 experts.

I'm certain air mechanics work much the same in HPP as they do in vanilla.
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>>135599601
You're not white, Hakiem.
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>>135599697
I never said ethiopians are white, /pol/tard
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>>135599776
POO IN LOO
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>>135599776
Then stop kicking up such a fucking stink.
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>>135599246
In 30 mins, maybe, gotta go back home.
Map is uninteresting, really. I just got Italy. And then managed to grab Venetia, South Tirol and Lombardia from Austria-Hungary. I guess they also didn't get enough canned food for their troops and lost to the superior 4/4/1/1.
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>>135600124
>Point obvious flaw in character model
>no you aren't white
>stop complaining about flaws
This doesn't even make sense
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>>135598538
Here is the link
https://mega.nz/#F!TVtWnBDQ!z5GnqKgGPFqaCIqEW6xXUQ

Extract the files and put them in your eu4/mod folder

Some changes I made:

-Westernisation is impossible (you can change this by modifying the defines.lua files in the common folder, search fr the line WESTERNISATION_THRESHOLD = 999
and change that back to 7 or whatever you want)

-Colonial nation are formed at 11 provinces instead of 5, I changed it because i wanted the caribbean to be a direct dependancy of the crown rather than a different country altogether

-Some national ideas don't make much sense, like the austrian ones, while other countries like the isles and antioch have the generic ones

-Some nations have the historical_friend or historical_rival modifiers towards other countries, that is based on ck2 relations, for example navarra will hate france because in ck2 they were almost constantly at war

>>135599465
I honestly don't remember which map mod I used, some of them I think were abandoned when paracucks added new provinces

Bonus dynasty mapmode
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>>135600332
Did you boost crown authority on your ck2 before this? There's a mod for it, but I can't remember what it's called.
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>>135600327
It's literally unviewable in game, you're arguing over the fact that your unviewable jew dlc isn't just as inviewable as you like it.
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>>135600332
Many thanks, good anon.
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First Stellaris game /gsg/?

I'm gonna play the hulky looking mammalian cunts and do some righteous empire building with my warfleet

pls gib pirate copy in archive
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>>135600491
Are you capable of speaking without spouting racist memes?
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>>135600553
I'm gonna play humans like a boring person. Make them extremely xenophobic.
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>Stormfags are so buttflustered that they get angry over African DLCs
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>>135600479
No, I left every country whole apart from the hre and france which starts with flanders as a vassal

Bonus hre map
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>>135600643
Are you capable of not throwing a tantrum over an unviewable one pixel nose?
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>>135600643
>>135600660
>r-r-r-racist
God, I love day /gsg/
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Rate my bohemia lads
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>>135600785
>fucking kike faggot ass nigger jew YOU AREN'T WHITE WHITE PRIDE WORLDWIDE
>don't call me out for being racist though, that's reddit tier

Being this tryhard racist is fucking 2008 /b/ tier, grow up
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>>135600890
The funny thing is being white wasn't even the subject
He just flipped out and started talking about it
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>>135600890
Hahaha, serious question, if this language offends you why not go to /r/paradoxplaza, where it's banned?
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>>135555390
>You still cant adopt in CK2
WHY
JESUS CHRIST PARADOX GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER
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>>135600653
Really gay that it's a choice between human, furry or plant desu

Maybe they're saving regular humanoids for DLC..
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>>135599436
... Are Ethiopians usually this handsome yet cute?
I'd give him my boipucci to be desu
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>>135600694
Bet you're the same guy who'd flip out about CK2 portraits looking "too muslim"
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>>135600665
>Carinthia
>only a quarter of the country is actually Carinthia
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>>135600954
>flipped out
>jokingly remarked that he wasn't white and called him by an east african name
>the joke being of course that that obviously wasn't his grievance
Leftards really need to develop a sense of humour.
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>>135600973
It doesn't offend me, it makes me cringe, because you're acting like a child. who just found out he can say nigger and get away with it.
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>>135601047
I don't care about the pixels, they could look like native americans for all I care, it having a "bantu nose" is of no issue to me, I don't play EU4 and I certainly don't buy unit packs.
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>>135599436
Ethiopians are the "Whitest" Blacks desu, they even embraced Christianity and Civilization faster than all other African tribes, Truly The Kangs
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>>135601068
>That
>A joke
A joke is supposed to be funny, what you did was nonsense
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Has anyone else noticed that since the new vicky patch firing province events from the console is broken? They fire as country events and cause ctd's.

Fucking wiz this makes testing a pain in the ass.
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>>135601168
I haven't once said nigger, but seen as I know it upsets you to the point there is a higher chance of you killing yourself: Nigger.
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>balts traveling the fucking world over to help their buddy
>perfidious albion won't land troops in fucking normandy
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>>135601256
>waaah, why do other senses of humour exist than my own?!
For an anti-fa you sure are fascist about what people are allowed to find funny.
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>>135601360
Sorry I didn't know you were doing humor for the mentally disabled
Probably the reason no one but you could get the joke
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>>135595770
>Give me an example of something that's been dumbed down.

Oil only needed for production, not as a supply. Doesn't matter how long your subs stay alive, they consume all the exact same amount of oil. And even less over time when you consider the gearing bonus.

No interecpting of planes flying through air zones. Have fun intercepting bombers in the channel or france a s germany.

No Airsupply. Have fun not keeping your IV. Armee supllied with your airforce.

Dumbed down research tree. I saw browser games with an deeper research tree.

Literally every vehicle you build you can upgrade only in 4 areas.

And finally: Quill seems to like it
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TAKING ALL BETS!
>retard AI
>got another 12k right outside walking in
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>>135601360
>make a joke
>it falls flat
>normal people move on
>/pol/tards spend half an hour throwing a fit about how the people who didn't like the joke are kikes, niggers or are generally ideologically opposed to them
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>>135601292
MODS MODS MODS
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>>135601414
Aah, so race jokes aren't allowed in your safe space but demeaning poor wittle retarded people is fine? Top kek, you're either a faggot or a nazi lad, pick one.
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>>135601168
Respectfully disagree X1
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>>135601451
>that
>a joke
Jokes are supposed to be funny
He did the equivalent of
>knock knock
>who's there
>you are not white
>you are not white who?
>you are not white HAHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>135601451
>>normal people move on

Then what were all those sick (You)s about? I would have left it there had you goys not made it so apparent you were triggered.
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>>135601414
see this
>>135601553

Most mentally handicapped aren't screaming dindu all the time compared to nogs
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>>135601553
That isn't what he said though
You really are mentally challenged
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>>135601684
Not what the lord Trudeau (PBUH) would want, lad.
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>tfw reasons for war in Stellaris will be anything other than cultural
>tfw you will never culturally dominate another species and have them develop a fetish for yours
>tfw you will never be informed they used retroviral engineering to make your 2 species genetically compatible
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Why can't you niggers get along?
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>>135601605
>faggot posts about ethiopian noses
>it's abundantly clear at this point he is particularly invested in the topic personally
>make a joke about him being a proud black ethiopian
>safe space day /gsg/ goes fucking mental
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>>135601785
MODS MODS MODS
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Reminder that there's nothing wrong with the economy in PDM, except for the horse and dye RGOs.
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>>135601837
So your joke about him being a proud black ethiopian is "you are not white"
Explain to me in what universe is that a joke
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What the fuck happened to this place?, dont mean to sound like and oldfag but now we have retards defending HOI4, anime posters, autists triggered by casual racism. What the fuck are you doing here?, if you want places with censorship and mods you have fuckin reddit and the forums.
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>>135602019
Because it's a running meme that East Africans claim to be descended from Nordic people due to their skull and nose shapes, as well as their slimmer lips compared to the rest of Africans.

SJWs dragged this post into a half hour privilege checking when it really should have just been a simple pun.
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>>135602149
Don't worry, you don't sound like an oldfag at all.
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>>135601837

You said he wasn't white, he said he never claimed to be white and called you /pol/ for randomly bringing it up where it didn't matter.

You then told him he shouldn't be complaining about them using the wrong nose because he's not white, brought up Jews and didn't even bother to make a crack about Beta Israelis.
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>>135602149
Day /gsg/ has always been cancer. It's when Australia/America go to bed and Europe wakes up.
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>>135602149
That big benis retard told everyone on leddit about /gsg/
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>>135602149
>hoi4
it's not even out you dipshit
>anime posters
it's an anime forum
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>>135602281
>when america goes to bed
>9:30 in the morning
Get a job you fucking NEET
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>>135602275
Look, if you didn't find it funny that's more than fair enough, but I'm not putting trigger warnings before posts, if you want a highly moderated safe space go to /r/paradoxplaza.
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>>135602369
Same to you, if you don't want people who don't agree with you around go back to /pol/
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>>135602205
What
Where is this a running meme?
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>>135602448
I don't mind people not agreeing with me, I mind people who don't agreeing with me telling me to leave their safe space. This isn't reddit, you have no right not to be offended here.
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>>135602530
The only people telling anyone to leave their safe space are you faggots complaining about reddit sjws
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>>135602519
/int/, /pol/, /his/ basically anywhere that regularly discusses geopolitics and different nationalities/cultures.
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>>135599691
I'd have finished them off three months ago but couldn't care less so the AI has been left to slug it out with the Spanish for the next eight years

>tfw even if it's a success and Spain becomes a puppet, it'll be the disgusting yellow republic that becomes the puppet and not the preferable orange-tinted nationalist incarnation
Some things you can never get
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>stellaris
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>>135601762
>tfw you will never encounter an alien culture that considers enslavement of the defeated the norm
>but centuries of social progress turn their understanding of war into a competition and surrender is normal
>tfw they will never almost immediately declare war on your race
>tfw you won't end up with a massive amount of PoWs, seized ships, and occupy their home planet
>but the pacifists back home oppose slavery and occupation, so you take what you can and ditch them
>tfw this won't cause a massive civil war between newly minted pro-you and anti-you factions
>tfw you won't be informed that the civil war is over and pro-you has won
>tfw you will never get a diplo communique requesting to be your vassal
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>>135602316
Yeah, I saw a screenshot. I hope he chokes on some nigger dick.
>>135602317
Are you the autist defending it?, what a delusional cunt you must be. I bet you unironically get excited when a new DD comes out.
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>>135602698
Stop bullshitting. There are no blacks in the future
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>>135602316
>>135602783
THIS.

Lads, I was just trying to redpill some paradrones on how shit conclave was, I really didn't think it woul lead to them all coming here and shitting up our general, I'm so sorry.
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>>135602617
So you literally tried to pass some /pol/ nonsense as a joke?
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>Bogomilist Bulgarian count in the Byzantine Empire with no dynasty members, all by himself
>goal is to conquer Bulgaria and enforce Bogomilism in Byzantium

Who knew this game could be so fun
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>>135602275
Holy shit, just fuck off already. You are not getting any minority points from this.
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>>135602864
Absolutely fucking no one cares that you post on reddit, seriously not a soul, stop bringing it up.
There's been no big influx of redditors, just a massive influx of people blaming whatever they don't like on reddit.
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>>135602865
>ignores the fact it's also a meme, and actually started on /int/
ebin
Oh sorry, is the Ebin meme racist to finnish people?
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>>135602864
>redpilling anyone
You stupid motherfucker.
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>>135602962
>no one cares that you post on reddit
>There's been no big influx of redditors
>just a massive influx of people blaming whatever they don't like on reddit
t. reddit
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>>135602964
So you literally tried to pass some little /pol/ - little /b/ nonsense as a joke?
>>
>playing EU4 as Morocco
>get mission to free italy from aragon
>attack scilly
>armies pass trough sea ways as blockades dont work anymore
>they get no crossing penalty since their general has 1 movement point
>rage
>come here and bitch about it


>doing fine in war somehow, capturing colonial provinces as aragon has no navy to pass trough Mediterranean
>one big exiled aragon force passes trough all their rivals trough ottoman empire, memlukes and reach my borders
>they walk trough bottleneck points fortified with castles
>they walk trough all my armies
>pass the Sahara deserts
>pass trough all the african empires
>meanwhile I race against time to capture all aragonese lands in africa
>they simply walk inside territory of a protectorate they have which by the way is not in the war
>they start liberating Africa

alt + f4


does anyone abuse the exiled army mechanics in MP?

its pretty damn possible to pass trough all the land without having to worry about military access that way
>>
the only thing I hate more than all of you is myself.
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>>135602938

I'm not complaining about the racism, just that it was pretty uninspired and only tangentially related to the issue.

What the fuck is a minority point?
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>>135603040
>is on 4chan
>doesn't accept /pol/ and /b/ as valid meme centres
You could atleast try to sound like you're not fresh off the boat from reddit.
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Fix your minicultures mod HPM guy
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>>135603112
The only people who have ever liked /pol/ and /b/ are people from /pol/ and /b/, who's the fucking newfag here jesus christ.
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>>135602902
>Lost 3 of the negative traits from events
>This happens without me or my life having a genius trait

This one's gonna be a fun one. What should the focus of my son be, considering he's most likely going to be just a count? Martial or Intrigue, or maybe Diplo?
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>>135603065
Look lad, we are in the middle of some shitposting here. Come back later.
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>>135603202
>keep icky 4chan culture off my 4chan
I love the fact that I'm rolling behind my keyboard and you're fuming.
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>>135603202
This
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>>135603112
You can't make referential jokes to memes that haven't established themselves, your joke looks like a retard spewing irrelevant garbage.
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>>135603327
>not knowing /pol/ and /gsg/ are virtually the same board
Wew lad, this is how I know you're new as fuck. /gsg/ has been /pol/ since before /vg/.
>>
Daily reminder that /pol/ is the biggest nest of newfags oin this entire site because it attracts anyone with a right wing opinion from the rest of the internet to meme

Daily reminder that 4chan is a traditionally left wing website

Daily reminder that /pol/ killed moot
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>>135603065
I had an Papal Army army blatantly ignore zone of control earlier, walk up to my capitol and then siege it down in 3 months, getting food shortage 2 times in a row and then taking it with 7% chance.
I wasn't able to get to my own capitol because I couldn't move through my allies' lands because a fort's zone of control from OUTSIDE my allies'lands was blocking movement through my allies' lands.
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>>135603373
>Daily reminder that 4chan is a traditionally left wing website
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>>135603373
>Daily reminder that 4chan is a traditionally left wing website
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>>135603087
Yes, you are. Who is calling everybody a /pol/tard and fumming because somebody said nigger and jew?, you faggot.

Minority points is what I assume you want to get defending niggers and jews because you are obviously ashamed of being white and want to attone for that, why else somebody would fuckin complain about racism on motherfuckin 4chan?
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>>135603373
>4chan
>Traditionally left-wing
You mean those Anonymoose fucktards right?
>>
Any links for the latest HIP?
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>>135603469
People are calling you a /pol/tard because you randomly bring up "you aren't white" for no reason at all but you are apparently to retarded to understand that
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>>135603373
>>135603440
>>135603464
>>135603509
He's not right, but he's not wrong either, 4chan is a traditionally contrarian website, back in the day that meant being a leftist, now that the rest of the world and especially the internet has swung to the left it means the opposite, the edginess is the same.
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>>135603608
>implying being right hasn't been edgy since 1945
>>
>>135603373
If 4chan is traditionally left wing then why are all the old /b/tards on /pol/
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>>135603608
This.
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>>135603606
Fuck off, /gsg/ is a /pol/ and /int/ colony
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>>135602317

>it's not even out

See >>135601445

Casual. Fucking. Garbage.

>it's an anime forum

No, it's a forum with many different subforums for many different interests. If you like anime, go to one of the several subforums somewhat related to it. Hell there are even threads in this subforum that talk about anime games. Go there. This specific thread in this specific subforum has nothing to do with anime and shitposting it here points out what a faggot you are.
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>>135603608
What? I'm here since 2007 and 4chan has always been sucking Hitler's cock. Wanting free speech is not leftism. 4chan has never, I repeat, never been in favor of minorities, or forced wealth re-distribution. Classical liberalism =/= modern """"liberalism""""

Kindly fuck off lad :^)
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>>135603787

as an former /int/ and /pol/ browser, no it's not and thank God for that. you might consider going back there though.
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>>135602698
>playing games from swecucks for years
>still complain about their PC
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>>135603856
/gsg/ literally started on /int/ retard
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>>135603923
It started on /v/ you fucking newshit
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>>135603469

I haven't called anyone a /pol/tard, you cunt.

I just want to see more creativity in racist humour than "you're not white lol". Make a kike joke about the ethiopian jews and tie it in to the DLC discussion, something at least related to the subject at hand.

And no, I don't want 'minority points' for defending niggers or jews, or chinks or ragheads or whatever else you think up to discredit me. If I had a choice I'd deport most immigrants and close the fucking gates.

That doesn't mean I automatically support every stupid, ill-thought-out, lazy attempt at a race joke.
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>>135603787
Typical /pol/tard response
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>>135603951
>he wasn't around when it was in /int/
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>>135603987
/pol/ dominates this site and there is nothing you will ever be able to do about it :^)
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>retards complaining about racist jokes on fucking 4chan
This is all your fault /u/BIG_BENIS_IN_MY_ANUS you brought all these redditors here you son of a bitch.
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>>135602149
Except anime posts have been haunting this shithole for literal years you fucking newb
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When can I become Norman as a norse duke in normandy?

Been waiting quite a while now, and it's already 950
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God this Germany is so trash
They tried 3 or 4 times already to get Alsace Lorraine and each time they get destroyed and fall from GP as a result
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>>135604409
are you christian?
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I started out 5th, took down 2 people higher then me due to a 7 combat king. Started with the entire Genoa trade zone, pushed a bit outside. Fought a war with Morea (Basically the left side of Constantinople, with the right side being Sunni) and won, and managed to push up to second. All the major players are in Europe, and there is no HRE at the start for some reason. Allied with Lombardy (purple blob) and Im going to feed them Austria and Venice.

Any other goals I should push for? The pope is Cordoba. Should I give them some land just south of them in Africa?
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>>135604113

not him, but I hope you will grow out of it eventually anon. took me a while too.
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>>135604437

Looks like a pretty good Europe, but your name placement is some next-level awfulness.
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>>135604437
Beautiful.

>BELGIUM
not so beautiful.
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Anyone got a lux invicta link?
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>>135604437
Yugobelgium?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/4ay178/just_preordered_this/
LMAO ONLY 1 HOUR AND SOMEONE ALREADY POSTED IT ON REDDIT THIS PRETTY MUCH PROVES THOSE RETARDS CRYING ABOUT RACISM WERE FROM LEDDIT THANKS BIG BENIS FOR INVITING THEM HERE
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>>135604409
Are you independent? The event wont fire unless you are or your liege is norse.

>>135604561
Check the thread archive faggot

>>135604605
Belgium is master of memes and puppets
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>>135604467
Next goal should be uninstall.exe, nobody cares for babby4
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>>135604674
Nobody cares that you browse reddit, fuck off.
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>>135604437
Come on lad, with that infamy to spare you should free the Balkans, might as well fo full meme now that you are playing Belgium. Remove DUDE WEED.
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>>135604674
Lol this is blatant proof reddit is among us
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>>135604674
found the redditor
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>>135602657
Oh my god how fucking epin

I love that feeling of sinking ships with naval bombers, best feel in /gsg/
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>>135585753
Ottoman Empire
Make Devlet-i Aliye Great Again!
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>>135604692
Also I am doing my white man's duty and am civilizing the niggers. I'll keep just the Congo under direct rule and release everything else as puppets.
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>>135604463
Yeah I am

>>135604692
Yup, independent norse Christian duke of normandy
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Is weeb CK2 actually good?

If I prefer the setting, is there anything that makes CK2 mechanically superior to it?
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>>135605129
Forgot picture of niggers who know how to read and are good christians
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>>135605265
Nothing comfier than actually improving your colonies, keep it up lad.
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>>135604692
>Are you independent? The event wont fire unless you are or your liege is norse.

b-but weren't real Normans vassals of France?
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>>135605174
Its proto ck2 so its inferior in a lot or ways. However the honor mechanic is interesting and the map is the prettiest of any game.
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>>135605265

To be fairer on the nigs, they were a Catholic nation before the scramble.
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>>135605265
Germany pls fuck off, Congo is mine. Also Netherlands declared war on my sphereling Egypt who are almost civilized, Ill have to give them a lesson.
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What's the objectively best pop type?
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>>135591730
These borders. Add Bulgarians as an accepted culture.
You could also blob into Greece if you feel like it.
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>>135556015
yeah what's up with these anti cheating crusades
fuckignj faggots
let people play however they want
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>>135605728

>Germans fucked enough to qualify for the Congo

Jesus, they really got hammered.


>>135605840

Farmers/Laborers, no other pop type can have a vaguely functioning country from the start.
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>>135605265
>everyday needs and some life needs
wew
How?
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>>135582807
>>135583145
>>135591213
post more of these memes
>>
How do I install the meme patch from the archive?
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>>135599246
There.
I plan on finishing Morocco, and that's about it for now.

And I still have Savoyard nationalists even though Savoie doesn't have cores on Savoie anymore, damn. No more Sicilian nationalists though, I think they're angry about something else now.
Also it looks like the world is reaaally lacking in military supplies, but somehow, even though no nations can buy enough (actually just tagged around a bit, the only GP/SP nation that can buy enough ammo/canned food/small arms/etc for its army is Russia), it's still not considered to be in high demand in the trade window. Wonder if that makes capitalists less likely to build factories for that.
Also most of my factories can't turn in a profit. rip
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>>135569689
>Nephrologist here, I spent eight years in crippling, fear inducing debt for my degree. I make six figures now, but that won't take away the arrhythmia and constant sleepless nights that came as a result of graduating in 2009 with ludicrous student loan interest rates.

If Sanders-sama won and the redistribution began, I would be honestly very happy to sacrifice my path to wealth and security knowing that no one would have to experience what I did.

I know this isn't fucking /pol/ or my blog or whatever the fuck, but your values don't represent a large portion of "the rich" -- why do you think half of us are bankrolling democrats?
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>>135606172
accidentally'd greentext'd
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Truly, this is the Legacy of Slovenia
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>>135606397
Shame this didn't play out and Sicilies went and got themselves annexed.
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>>135606172
>replying to a post from yesterday to shitpost about Jew Commissar Sanders.

wew comrade.
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>>135606172
Do you not have an ounce of selfishness in your body? You're living the good life, why would you rather you and everyone else live a poor life?
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>>135606535
And this is communist switzerland.
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>>135606669
finally a legit casus belli to split them between Germany and France
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>>135606576
Not a single person in the west lives "a poor life" you entitled shitfaces
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>>135604895
Leave Vichy alone or go the historical route of full occupation, /gsg/?
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>>135606768
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>>135606768
Western domination didn't happen because we were satisfied where we are.
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>>135606768

That's bullshit unless you consider homeless people and a sprinkling of natives to be outside the west.
>>
Reminder that most people who hate socialism are americunts and that their shitty opinion shouldn't be taken very seriously. The establishment brainwashes them so hard it's rare for them to be capable of rational thought.
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>>135606846
Leave alone.
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>>135606920
Reminder that most who hate socialism actually live in post-communist states.
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>>135606846
Let them go. If they try to turn traitor you can destroy them before the Americans arrive to save them.
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>>135606920
Socialism is a mistake
t. Sweden
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>>135603960
>i have never called anyone a /pol/tard you cunt

>>135603987
>>135599776
>>135601451
>>135599776
>>135601451
top keks

how about you fuck off and stop whining on the internet you retard
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>>135606920
>government constantly hemorrhaging money
>the people constantly sucked dry
>tax dodging left and right
>nation wants to be great "again"
America was never great. It was too big and too rich, through no merit of its own, to feel the effects of its shitty economic policies like a smaller economy would.

But it is still number 1. Can you imagine what US of A would be like if its wealth was spent even a little bit efficiently instead of everybody grubbing?
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t. eurabia.
>>
>Start new game of DH
>Play as National France
>Focus on land stuff mostly
>1939 rolls around
>Rumblings in Europe
>Stack most of my non-garrison troops in Algiers, cover the beaches with garrisons just in case
>Load marine troops onto transport ships, have floatilla of battleships and such escort them
>Successfully land in communist Iberia
>As I go to grab a second wave of troops, Union of Britain navy strikes
>Entire navy destroyed
>Meanwhile, Sierra Leone's been seized by the British
>And I didn't think to guard Sierra Leone's borders
>British flooding across West Africa out of Sierra Leone now
>Also out of Western Sahara, since I forgot to garrison one of those beaches too

Well, looks like I dun goofed.
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>>135607226
I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message.
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i hope you goys have pre-ordered your copy of Stellaris already
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>>135607316
Does garrisoning beaches prevent amphibious landings by AI?

Sounds like you got caught up in the fun of preparing against Iberia, such that you forgot a lot of other stuff. Happens to the best of us.
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>>135607463
you mean donald drumpf
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>>135607592
Garrisoning beaches makes them significantly less attractive targets to the AI. Or to opponents in general. But I'm pretty sure that the AI would attack a garrisoned beach if they had no better options for attacking. Still, having a garrison there standing guard does buy me crucial time to react to any attempted amphibious landing.
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>>135607798
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>>135607798
Fuck off with that dumb meme. I'm not even pro trump but thats just fucking annoying
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>>135607798
you mean donald duck
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>>135607463
Can you imagine how much money people would save if they weren't bled by car dealerships, and private medical insurance and other shitass monopolies?

How much more money the government would have to spend if it weren't due to tax loopholes, and how government would be run if it wasn't for lobbyists?

USA is a supercomputer, running every single piece of bloatware that exists.

Time to uninstall the bloat. Embrace socialism, America.
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>>135608056
you mean donald cuck
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>>135606768
>entitled shitfaces
Back to Tumblr.
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>>135608036
>I'm not even pro trump
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>>135608098
Proof donald trump is a cuck, inform the media.
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>>135606768
>America isn't western
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>>135608057
>running every single piece of bloatware that exists.

So you're saying that America is running HPM?
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>>135607798
Haha, this is it, he's finally stumped, lads!
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>>135607226
>trought no merit of its own.

Now I know you are just shitposting.
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>>135608396
Lel
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Wait? Edward VIII?! Where is Mosley?
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>>135608396
God damnit Rob, but nice one.
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>>135608419
UK is successful because of the actions of its people.

USA is successful due to its geolocation, not due to anything its people did.
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>>135608581
The UK is successful because of the channel seperating them from Europe.
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>>135608581
Out of all fucking countries to chose from, you take the uk? They are just as worthless, if it weren't for that dumb channel seperating them from the rest of Europe. Why not pick a real country, like Germany or France?
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>Ottoman Empire in 1836 is a civilized country
>Egypt in 1836 (a neighbor vassal of the former) is an uncivilized country with 20% progress (that goes up to 30% with the Muhammad Ali's reform decision, but that cripples your research rate by 50%), despite that the country had a modernized army, navy, bureaucracy and several industries by then

t. """"""""H"""""""PM
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>>135608805
Because UK had an empire that spanned a quarter of the world.
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>>135608821
Ottomans should be unciv agreed
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>>135608581
Yeah, so the conquest of the West, the scientific discoveries, the fact that millions of people flocked to that country because of the prosperity and success has nothing to do with the sheer will of its people?, if it werent for good ol USA half of America would be a shitty desert full of natives killing each other.

Inferiority breeds jealousy redcoat.
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>>135608891
Because they could fuck around while everyone else in europe was busy waging against each other you dumb shit
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>>135608821
Are you """"""""""arguing"""""""""""""""" that one of the GPs in the 19th century wasn't civilized while Egypt was civilized because they bought a few muskets and ships?
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>>135608984
>Ottomans
>a GP
>19th century
look at this man and laugh
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>>135608821
>t. """"""""H"""""""PM
You mean t. Vanilla and NNM
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>>135608942
>prosperity due to geolocation
>prosperity attracts talent, which brings more prosperity
In other news, it is easy to make money, when you HAVE money.
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>>135608942
>conquest of the West

Slaughtering helpless indians and taking their land is an achievment now? Lmao
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>>135608891
>had

Stay mad Sir Fagginton.
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Egypt civilized lads, Im proud of them. Ethiopia is almost there too but I had to put them under direct control. Hopefully I'll have all central africa under control after 90.
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>>135608984
Egypt wasn't a fully modern state by then, but certainly it wasn't a fucking uncivilized shithole with just 20-30% progress. 60-70% would be more sensible.

Even fucking Haiti is more civilized than Egypt (and other "uncivilized" countries) in 1836, that's how much of a joke HPM and Paradox are.
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>>135609195
No you dense shithead, builiding cities and prosperity out of nowhere that is an achievment, if some savages got caught in the way of process thats none of my business. How do you have internet in your reservation Chief?
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>>135609338
>state that was annexed in the scramble
>60-70% civilized
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>>135608581
If the English Channel didn't exist Britain would be known as 'northern France'.
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>>135609221
>Austria

You fucking wish, fatso. Stop spreading lies you asshat.
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>>135609338
Haiti is civilized because its a western nation with a modern government working off the ideals of the enlightenment, but it actually starts with less tech than egypt to represent the whole backwards slave chaos thing.

westernizing being a requirement for technology is a terrible system anyways, it was better in vanilla (as in no expansions) where uncivs could research technology but got huge penalties and westernizing put them on a more equal footing.
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>>135609276
And superior Belgian diplomacy strikes again. Ill have to work again on my military tech at some point though.
>>
Today is a glorious day comrades
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>>135609153
The same can be said about the fuckin brits or french, fertile lands, resources, natural barriers. What you dont seem do understand is that the USA in 200 hundred years manage to outclass empires that had been around for hundreds of years and had left a print in the human history in such a brief time. If you cant seem to grasp that that sucess is due the tenacity and will of its people then you are one sad cunt from a has been country unable to cope with the facts.
>>
>>135608497
Edward would be head of state if we were fascist m8, he was friendly with the Germans
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>>135609569
>Belgium
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>>135609618
>200 hundred years manage to outclass empires that had been around for hundreds of years

200 years is not hundreds of years or what?
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>>135607468
>pre-ordered
This needs to stop.

>>135607957
Neat. So what, just one garrison?
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The stuff circled in red are things that Im taking next war. Question is should I aim to land lock Toledo, or keep chipping away at France? France is quite weak so even if I leave them it should be fine, but I like stepping on frogs.
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>>135606846
Pickin em off one by one while the opportunity presents itself

Britain decides to send its entire fleet into the Baltic Sea so they get what they came for
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>>135569974
They're zoomed in you fucktard
>>
>>135609565
And just to be clear when I say westernization being a requirement for tech is terrible I'm not saying everyone is special progress doesn't go in one direction apologist bullshit, it's just fucking stupid in a game where you're literally buying guns the UK makes that your guns are worse than the uk's because you don't know how rifles work because you're not civilized.

Anyone can buy a gun, anyone can research medicine (especially if the germans already invented it), westernization should represent government structures, values and respect on the world stage.
>>
>>135571401
>Can't invade Poland
>>
>>135609715
I am glad that you accept all the other facts of the post. If you compare it with the amount of time the english, french, italians and germans has been fuckin around in Europe is nothing.
>>
>>135609716
I pre ordered it, what'cha gonna do about it?
>>
>>135609532
Well, it must be an older map but the point stands. Who else has that power projection or ever had it?
>>
>>135610159
Im not the guy you replied to you cuck. Your post was just so borderline retarded that i had to step in.
>>
>>135610286
How old, 70 years? Go fuck yourself.
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>>135609569
I am lovin that Italy, are you going to fix the Balkans?, with the nigger fodder cannon you should be able.

>Galicia

Every fuckin time.
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Has anyone seen the reformation happen this early?
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>shit tech
>shit army
>shit industry
>best blob

got my priorities in order lads
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>>135610675
Lad, you're indirectly creating a groBgermanium. Release Poland and cuck NGF with it.
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>>135610675
>not great gaming yet

Hurry up you faggot, or you will have britain breathing down your neck in a decade.
>>
>>135610298
Whatever Eurabia, enjoy watching the slow decline and eventual death of the continent that once ruled the world, but now his own people cheer while its destroyed from within with a helping hand of your own men and women.
>>
>>135610558
Ill try to keep Banat free of influence so Hungary or Romania can annex them, and Ill probably dismantle the ottomans at some point.
>>
Kazakhstan greatest country in the world all other countrys are run by little girls. Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium! Other countries have inferior potassium. Kazakhstan home of the tinshein swimming pool it's length thirty metre ans width six metre. Filtration system a marvel to behold it removes 80 percent of human solid waste. Kazakhstan,Kazakhstan, you very nice place, from plains of tarashenk to northern fence of jewtown. Kazakhstan, friend of all except Uzbekistan, they very nosey people withe bone in theire brain. Kazakhstan, industry best in the world, we invented toffee and the trouser belt. Kazakhstan, prostitutes cleanest in the region, except of course for Turkmenistan's. Kazakhstan,Kazakhstan, you very nice place, from plains of tarashenk to northern fence of jewtown. Come grasp the mighty phenis of our leader, from juction with testes to tip of its face
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>>135610935
Lmao im not even a yuro you stupid delusional americunt.
>>
Who should I play in nWo, lads?
>>
>>135610664
When I did it. Usually its just a quick subjugation followed by become king of Sweden, ended with the claim I get during all that time.
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>>135610508
Stay mad refugee.

https://www.rt.com/news/331926-austria-pool-rape-reactions/
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>>135611115
The Jews.
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>>135611048
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfPrQqbikb4
>>
Hi /int/.
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>>135611259
Not avaliable from 1946.
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>>135611341
Then Poland.
>>
>>135609613
What mod is this?
>>
>>135611108
>delusional
>not even european

Nobody gives a shit about you, literally. Come back once your country accomplish something nigger.
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>>135611409
>be ussr puppet entire game
Pick an enjoyable country, lad.
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>>135611474
USA
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>>135611474
Nationalist China, kill the commies, then try to incorporate Mongolia and kill the russians with US help.
>>
New Thread
>>135611790
>>135611790
>>135611790
>>135611790
>>135611790
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUSd2viF6zI

>tfw you'll never be English
>tfw my family used to belong to the upperclass in London
>tfw they moved to America
>and then later generations to fucking Sweden

>Now I'm stuck here being half Swedish and half Finnish

I want to be anglo masterrace ;_;
>>
>>135611919
wrong thread
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>>135611245
>Russia Today
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>>135611432
PUTIN.
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Params to create HPM Babylon?
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Is it scrubby to start as a kingdom in ck2?
even if it's the kingdom of Cyprus in the rise of the hansa start?
I think it could be fun
>>
>>135615979
you can't
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>>135617047
Yes, very
>>
>>135617047
Its not scrubby, its just boring in most cases. Much funner to be a count in the Byzantine empire and work your way up to emperor, but in cases like Scotland fighting against England its not scrubby, it would be slightly difficult.
>>
>>135590169
aka another byzieboo autist's dreams made into a mod
don't forget grossgreeciumius
>>
>>135610675
>12.0% literacy
Start over. You can blob and achieve 100% literacy at the same time
>>
>>135618112
That start is fucked up though
>3 mongol empires
>2 have event spawned 100k attritionless stacks
>Großayyubids
>Seljuks
>Teutonic Order is tribal for some reason
>countless principalities around the Eastern Mediterranean
I just think it's an interesting start, I'm still split whether I'll start as
cyprus(kingdom title is very valuable for pressing claims of random courtiers) and the principality of antioch which is technically more powerful and the ruler has a shitton of unmarried kids
>>
>>135558364
Mostly classical music and military marches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETNoPqYAIPI
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