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Old Thread >>135489903
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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WILLY
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There is literally nothing wrong with either National Socialism or anime.
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>Scottish engineering
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HoI 4 when?
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Why does everyone hate PDM? It's the only mod that attempts to fix Vic 2's horrible economy.
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>>135555701
June 6, 2016.
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>>135555624
>blobbing in china
>cheating
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GroßIndonesiums
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>>135555845
And fails miserably
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it's over

>>135555872
>>135555614
>>135555653
>cheated
it was just to trigger the fascist coup and get on with killing off chinks
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>>135556006
t. HPM/rob/rangerage
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>>135555845
HORSE
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12th for Nordic Hellas

http://www.armahellas.com/?p=120
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>>135555845
>attempts
exactly. It doesn't actually fix it
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>>135556015
>Using the console to turn yourself fascist

yep, that's cheating.
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>>135556134
Nazis actually inspired pagans.
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>>135556248
no, it's RNG encouragement
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>>135556015
Except it is cheating
It's easy enough to encourage fascist loyalty and revoke political reforms to get couped
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Is MCG around? I'm available to explain my ideas about the Megali Idea.
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>>135556183
It does fix it though, the price of stuff like sheep is raised so the farmers get more money and can buy more stuff.
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>>135556402
I was encouraging fascists for like >15 years and said fuck it
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>>135556403
blue snek
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>>135556403
>>135556594
Here's the less snekky version with just Asia Minor. Personally, I prefer the former because it includes the Greeks in Trebizond. With them, most of the Anatolian Greeks would be united under Greece (with the exception of the landlocked Cappadocian Greeks).
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>>135556403
I asked this last night but you fucked off, can you do one stretching to Antioch? With the Anatolian border being the Halys river and the Taurus mountains? Sort of like the third and ultimate gross Greece?
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>>135555624

ACH NOOH
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>>135556403
>>135556791
Better idea
Give Greece cores on Crimea, Circassia, and Southern Ukraine
Give fascist Greece cores on the whole black sea area
Go full Póntos Áxeinos
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>>135556809
Yeah, sorry, I went to sleep. The whole point of the Megali Idea was to unite all Greeks under on state, and taking all of the extra land you suggested would just be adding a ton more Turks to Greece and a negligible amount of Greeks. Sure, you would be free to take that land yourself in game. But cores wise, "Megali Full" would the extent of core provinces.
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rate my le ebin grossgermanium and europe, /gsg/
right thread edition

Also, give meme ideas to start a Great War I'm bound to have a hard time with for some epic colonial migration, so far I think the Namibia-Botswana-Rhodesia-South Angola colonies have only around 1m pops when put together.
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IMPORTANT POLL
http://poal.me/79mdeg
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>>135556403
I'm here lad, explain your ideas
Thanks for posting earlier
>>135557045
t. Pavlos
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Why is the UK always #1 in industrial score?
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>>135557341
Because they learned from the Chinese the secrets of industrialization.
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Is Paradox going to do something about the bloat that India creates? It's lagging the shit out of my games and it's so isolated and I never play there.
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>>135557140
Why did you cut that bird's head off :^(
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>>135557125
o-oh..

Can you atleast change the states around so that in the North the state borders the river and in the south the states are the west Taurus and the East taurus.

Also, change the Syrian states so one is the coastal provinces, Antioch and Latakia and the other is all the irrelevant shit to the east like darz Al whatever and Damascus.
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>>135557480
This is one spicy fucking meme
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>>135557045
See >>135557125. At that point, you are just pointlessly blobbing with no historical precedence or realism whatsoever.

>>135557237
Not too much to explain really. The borders were inspired by pic related, as they would roughly encapsulate a majority of Anatolian Greeks. As stated before, the only Greeks that would be excluded would be Cappadocian Greeks and extremely tiny Greek communities scattered around inner Anatolia. Those could be handled through population transfers.

In regards to population transfers, I was thinking it should be possible, just have some set conditions. Given that the Turks would not willingly accept a population transfer of Turks from Thrace and Asia Minor, it would probably require that Greece occupies Turkey or controls them as a puppet. At the very least it would require Greece have Turkey in their sphere. With all the Turks being moved, you could spread them out among inland Anatolia. As for the small amount of Greeks in Turkey being moved to Greece, you could move most, if not all, to Constantinople, given that it would be very depopulated following the ejection of Turks from the area.
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>>135557613
>forgetting pic

>>135557237
What the fuck so you mean partition Albania, lad?
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>>135557613
States would remain the same, the only thing changed are provinces.
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>>135557702
Then at the very least give them cores on the Southern half of Crimea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_in_Ukraine
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Well this is new. I guess the Finns didn't take the war as well as I did.

What do? The second option gives me a boatload of dank millitancy, but I don't know what the first one does
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Why do so many ladposters like Vic 2?
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What do you lads usually listen to when playing each grand strat?
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>>135557921
Well, yeah. Can you do it?
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>>135557937
I'm aware of Crimean Greeks, but cores are up to MCG. In my opinion, I don't think Greece would want to anger Russia, given that Greece would find Russia to be a major ally (shared religion, history, and common enemy). Not to mention, there were never any historical claims (that I know of) during the time period towards Crimea, whereas the Anatolian coast was frequently claimed by Greek nationalist.
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>>135558364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pRLyyFdDjg&list=PLjyhVwHCfOPI62NOtmu8tK7f302PQKe5b
this while playing hoi3 and vic 2 desu
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>>135558364
anime music
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>>135557702
Can you show a megali map that shows Trebizond as a core territory of Greece or any document that shows they truly wanted it at the end of the war?

Are the province positions and names all edited too? I can do that if not. Why do you feel that this will add to Greece games?

>>135557826
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_Albania

>>135557937
>literally only 7% minority
>cores
t. putin
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>>135558364
Nothing
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>>135558364
either millitary marches, sabaton or some twitch stream
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>>135558364

The music of ur mum slurping my cock
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>>135558605
>implying numbers matter to a fascist ruler
t. adolf "there's a village with 500 germans on the other side of the world, we need to annex everything between us and the them" hitler
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>>135558364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OlnxPgY9zc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZVpR3Pk-r8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSuHrTfcikU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rAOyh7YmEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSemARaqGqE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_GH6M7cUq4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvouc8Qs_MI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9gKyRmic20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJRP3LRcUFg
http://www.youtube.co.uk/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnzGzoZHPPM
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>>135558791
*tips*
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>Pavlos Mod will never
>ever
>ever
>EVER
>get updated for new versions of DH
KILL ME
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How long is too long to press a claim? If France owned Iberia in 1000, just hypothetically, how long until you would take Frances claim away from them? Im assuming it would change with time, so lets add 1500 and 1900 too.
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>>135558952
>unironically listening to modern music while playing historical games
Kill urself me laddo
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>>135558364

https://youtu.be/lhLfVO5SHn4
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>>135558364
jpop (including denpa) and sometimes kpop
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>>135559204
This is terrible. I want to kill you.
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>>135558364
Gotta keep it comfy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJVoApMH-y4
When FilthyFrank/Joji drops his tape that's all I'm gonna listen to t b h
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>>135559160
>he doesn't like '80s pop
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>>135559278

wow rude

https://youtu.be/oVi08Dt0chU
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>>135558605
>Can you show a megali map that shows Trebizond as a core territory of Greece or any document that shows they truly wanted it at the end of the war?
Apologies for long link.

https://books.google.com/books?id=UPkBAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA23&lpg=PA23&dq=megali+idea+trebizond&source=bl&ots=fRrAsQtWyl&sig=pu2Pcx1AVZT9cs7M6ct_9kD3x_8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwv5OnkcnLAhUGFx4KHYYeASAQ6AEIKTAC#v=onepage&q=megali%20idea%20trebizond&f=false

>"The six cities named in his [Ioannis Kolettis] speech form a continuous horizontal limit that starts from Ioannina in the west, passes through Salonica, Serres, Adrianople, and Constantinople, and ends in Trebizond in the east."

>Are the province positions and names all edited too?

Province positions are edited, names are not. They don't really need to be edited though. It's up to you.

>Why do you feel that this will add to Greece games?
It'll add a goal for Greece to move towards/achieve. The hope would be that you would have a relatively homogenous, medium-sized empire (assuming you only expanded in the Balkans and Anatolia, which is unlikely).
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>>135559567
>>135559204
Been looking for female history asmr for months, my nigga. Shame she's a SJW.
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>>135558032
>>135558032
>>135558032
Please respond

does ANYONE know what it does?
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Ebin. Just ebin.
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>>135557613
>>135557826
Do you mean something like this? It looks very ugly, and like I said before, has no historical precedence.
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>>135559567
Who is this little nigga
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>>135559907
Blini
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>>135558032
>>135559829
Seems to be a glitch, seeing as how the popup claims it's the Swedish patriots that successfully revolted
I'm more curious about how you lost Finland so quickly tbhwy
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>>135559901
That's what you get for playing a meme game with a joke of an economy.
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>>135558869
wew lad

>>135559696
Well lad, you've partially convinced me. I'll add a decision to get a core on the single trebizond province if you own all your megali cores. Can you also upload your province map?
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>>135557237
Poll ended, absolute madman option wins
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>>135560031
>>135558032

Had the same thing happen to me as Romania. Northern Italian patriots occupied my cores in Austria and I ended up getting the whole lot back.
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>>135559902
Not even close, laddo.

I want one state to be from Heraclea Pontica to the Halys, with the southernmost part being lake Tuz.

Then another state from Cibyra to Celenderis, with the northernmost part being again, lake Tuz.

Then the third and final state being Adana, from soli-Pompeiopolis eastwards.
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>>135559907

top of the kots
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>>135560031
I got into a war with the Ottomemes mainly to get militancy to abolish serfdom early. the UK occupied all of Finland, they somehow got out of my sphere while occupied despite not falling to rebels. I didn't realize they were falling to rebels, since there's no indicator if they aren't in your sphere
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>>135558364
Vocaloid, Touhou mixes and patriotic North Korean music.
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>>135560907
so what slavic meme nation are you from
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>>135560907
>North Korean
>Not Soviet
Revisionist scum desu comrade.
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>>135560083
Is there any mod which fixes it? I'm tired of CK2 and I can't get EU to work on my computer, it just instantly crashes for some reason.
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>>135560907

>not using redstar OS
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>>135560907
>pixelating it so I can't judge your taste in touhous
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What if Stellaris is good?
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>>135560448
>you've partially convinced me. I'll add a decision to get a core on the single trebizond province if you own all your megali cores.
Why just Trebizond? The Greek majority in the area wasn't just in Trebizond, it was in the entire Pontus region (the teal, grey, and blue provinces in pic related).

Also, given that Greece would have to be in a very powerful position to even be able to take these lands, I don't see why they wouldn't push to take the rest of the Black Sea Anatolian coast (the pink and red provinces), which still had some Greeks in it, so that all lands are interconnected. I'd imagine it wouldn't exactly be fun to have to travel through Turkish territory to get to your exclave on land, and going by sea has its own problems.

>Can you also upload your province map?
Yeah sure, I'll put it in a dropbox due to filesize. Ignore province changes outside of Anatolia.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3gedq16k94jrs33/provinces.bmp?dl=0

>>135560713
Two things. First, like I said before, I'm not changing states, I'm changing provinces. It'd be nice if you could define what you want changed. Also, I'd really appreciate if you'd sketch what you want so I can go from there.
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>>135561078
HPM tries to fix it a little but he goes way too soft on minimum wages and factory paycheck shares.
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>>135561019
The UK.

>>135561164
My music collection is quite old and full of stuff I haven't listened to in ages. Didn't want to get into any arguments about what a pleb I am for liking [insert band], so I pixillated it to save myself the trouble.
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>>135561339
I'd really like to sketch it but I'm on phone so I can't.

Just make it so the natural border of Greece is the left bank of the Halys.
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>>135561421
I'm using HPM.
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>>135561318
Only if it allows for the aryian race instead of le WE WUZ KANGS meme
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>>135561339
I doubt the international community would view it as rightfully Greek, and Greece already gets a ton of cores out of decisions. With the Trebizond core they can take the entire state, but will still only have one core territory there.
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>>135555390
Latest Vickymod link: http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

Please have the OP updated next thread.
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>>135561031
/r/ingthat pic of the forum faggot who, when asked about his favourite ideology he said "Imperial communist, my personal favourite! ^_^"
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>>135561640
You probably just got sphered by the UK or something and that renders tariffs basically useless.
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are greco/byzaboos the worst, ugliest, and smelliest of the boos?
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>>135561789
t. rob
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>>135561930
t.**k
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>>135561882
Nope, just checked.

I think the reason my tariffs are so useless is because my administrative efficiency is so shit, but I'm stuck in a catch 22 in that regard because I don't have enough money to improve it in a timely fashion.
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>>135562182
What's the price/demand of coffee?
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>>135562347
link?
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>>135561773
>they can take the entire state
Which includes provinces not even in the Megali Idea at all. See pic related.

>I doubt the international community would view it as rightfully Greek
I mean, that's up for debate, but for Greece to be in the advantageous position to demand it would warrant it. Not to mention Greece would have some level of international prestige and sway, since it has to be a Great Power anyways to take the Megali decision.
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>>135562529
The only idea I have is to research the techs on the monetary system line to increase your tariff and tax efficiency.
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>>135562595
Oh fug, you're right, I'll have to think it over

Thanks for all the suggestions, I may incorporate your map!
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>Latin Franks are super stable and form the SER
>Germanic Franks are killing themselves over petty land squabbles

I guess there's going to be no GroBgermaniums in this mega campaign.
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Are steel and machine part factories good to build together?
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>>135562595
Make the purple state coastal only, cut some northern land off the blue state and change Syria so the coastal provinces are one state and the inland is the other, then I can have ebin gross greeciums from Bethlehem to Bithynia.
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>>135563098
Any mods other than HIP?
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>>135563205
Lad, it isn't just about Greece. If it was, I'd reshape all the provinces and states to the old Byzantine themes. HPM is considering implementing the changes, and he wouldn't want changes that mess with history. That's especially why I haven't changed any state borders because they conform to the Ottoman (who in most games as well as at the game start control Anatolia) vilayets.
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>>135563458
Can ye not just do it any way, just for cracks?
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>>135563591
I've got better stuff to do than to make maps that will never be implemented in any mods, sorry.
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>>135563407
Lindbrook's Texture Mod, which will be integrated into HIP in the next version, replacing NBRT+
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>>135563098
>SER
What's that?
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>>135526951
But seriously I want to play the Glorious Northwest Front not some Mestizo shithole
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>>135563807
wah look who's the bloody keng
waddayou adda do thats even remotely empurtant
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>mfw my Peloponnese run took a very awkward turn when I realized the Muslims in Africa were extremely vulnerable due to recent decadence strife

I've gone from "maybe I could conquer Hellas and form the Kingdom of Morea" to "I now have a clear shot at forming a New Carthage."

Fuck.
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>>135563980
Saint-Empire Romain, the Frankish version of the HRE.
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>>135564371
Google translate for chrome m8
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>>135564371
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>>135564371
what the fuck are they saying
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>>135564371
>tfw not a single post about HPM on slav /gsg/
Based robmod fanbase :^)
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Are capitalists worth it for the taxes
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>>135565054
Aye, yah have to treat 'em like princes for the first half century though.
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>>135555574
Fuck yourself /pol/ shitposter, anime is not a shield to introduce nazi for real.
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>>135564371
why did janny take that down?
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>>135564792
such a thing may be arranged

>>135564658
discussions of grand strategy, too much eu4 for me
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This is at the start of the game. I thought I was cheating, but wanted to take on united Europe right away. Then these guys appear on my flank.
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>>135565374
Janny works in mysterious ways.
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>>135565638
anime is not your fucking shield nazi
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>>135565638
nice kike media
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>>135565638
>backwards swastika
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>>135565376
KEK
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>>135565852
ayy
>>135565797
lmao
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/gsg/ country flags when?
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>>135566080
Never
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>>135566080
what
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>>135566049
keep /pol/ shit in /pol/, is not that hard to understand
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>>135565638
I advise you take your degeneracy elsewhere. /gsg/ is under the eternal protection of /pol/ for our mutual benefit and prosperity.
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>>135566213
this isnt brit/pol/?
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>/pol/
>country flags
and this is how you ruin a board
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>>135566297
based anti-anime /pol/ack
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>>135566332
I'm not a brit lad
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>>135566297
>/pol/
>current year
It's been shit since flags, m8. Also, checked that file size.
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What modules do you guys usually install with HIP? Installing it right now and I don't know if I should install VIET or not. Yes, I know about the cock jokes.
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>>135566437
You got it all wrong, anime is fine, nazis are disgusting. Are you nazi?
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>>135566445
Well then fuck off back to /r/paradoxplaza.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pDPaCLiMlA
>we will never get the finale
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>>135566616
see >>135566630
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>>135566616
t. meneth
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>>135566630
(you)
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>>135565852
>Anime
>Kike media
Japan hasn't fallen to the jews.
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>>135566720
>>135566735
Are you nazi?
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>>135566823
see >>135566630
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>>135566770
>he doesn't realize ani-may is a plot pushed by kikes to keep otherwise active young aryan men docile and cucked
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>>135566823
http://poal.me/gw24yh
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>>135566890
What are you hiding nazi? Get the fuck outta here and take your shit >>135566892 with you.

You can't blame us for wanting our boards clean of you.
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>>135567046
friend, >>135566892 is a shitty falseflag which i suspect you to have some part in
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>>135567269
No, stop baiting idiot. You are not funny, all nazis like you are cowards and we have enough shitposting from /pol/.
Go away so we can keep going.
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Anime posters btfo
>>>>/a/
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Dat strategy tho.
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>>135567546
ok mr goldstien
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>you will never be a craftsmen living in 1875 ohio getting a comfy paycheck who emigrated from belgium and is now campaigning for better working conditions because he got a small cut working at the lumber mill
why even live laddios?
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>>135567812
>doesn't like anime
>doesn't like swastikas
>accuses others of being jewish
your jewish tricks won't work here schlomo
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>>135568075
autism
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>>135568075
nothing wrong with a few swastikas mate, it's the anime that I don't like.>>135566964
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>>135562807
Does your mod work with HPM?
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>>135567841
>48.4% socialist
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>>135568825
blame the immigrants
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>>135568621
>>135566964
If it takes badly drawn Japanese pornography to redpill these degenerates it's worth it.
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>>135568621
b-but I like anime
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>>135568893
are immigrants actually more likely to be socialist in vic 2, or are you just memeing?
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>>135567841
>100% everyday needs
>still a pissed off whiny socialist and won't shut up until he gets his reforms
wew
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>>135568893
>yankee
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>>135567694
what country is that
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>>135569024
i'm memeing but craftsmen are coded to lean towards socialism
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>gf gets new laptop
>I take her old one
>first thing I do is download steam, install CK2 and all DLCs
>decide to come back to /gsg/
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>>135569213
welcome back anon we missed you
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>>135569213
>I take her old one
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>>135569046
just like real life
Seriously, workers in America have their "everyday needs" today, yet they're still cambering for Bernie "geturfreestuff" Sanders because apparently I should be forced to pay for shadonqas sex change operation.
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>>135569295
I literally haven't posted on 4chan in a few years. Forgot about all this CAPTCHA and stuff. might have to get a new 4chan pass
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How does the game expect us to deal with these blobs...
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>>135569339
>Implying I can afford a new computer in this economy
>Implying I'm an American Robber Baron
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>>135569624
>being American
>being poor
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>>135567694
better than the micromanagement and monotony of hoi3. Honestly hype as fuck for hoi4.
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>>135569456
what mod is this?
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>>135569354
>workers

commies usually haven't worked a day in their lives.
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>>135569668
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>135569456
Oh I just figured out how it got this way. I set the game to flat provinces. But the prices are the same, so they got all those 10 development places for 3-5 points each.

>>135569685
Random nations, vanilla. Normal got boring. You get to see stuff like this every game.
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>europe is less socialist than america
>america literally has the workingmens' party in power
o-oh say can you see..
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>>135569456
coalition? alliances? support rebels? blob harder than the other blobs?
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>>135569689
You know it's weird
Lots of the communists I see would be first on the list to have all their shit taken and redistributed
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>>135569714
explain to me why this is fucking bad and I will throw you a bone
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>>135569685
Victoria 2
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>>135567694

Is that seriously the only provinces in the game? I haven't paid much attention to the development diaries so Idk what's up with the mechanics.

I probably won't upgrade anyway HOI3 is the shit.
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why can't we get rid of the rats in HoI?
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>>135569781
HPM fixed that shit in the newest version, he gave the liberals and conservatives so much loyalty that no other party can be voted in, which is good because fuck the commies.
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>>135569456
>1445
>Fascist France
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I've made a terrible mistake
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>>135570068
Im getting rid of all estate early. I shall rule with an iron fist.
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>>135569997

Because liberals. Even mods that change the German flag to the swastika are banned in most of yurop.
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>>135570068
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Popular_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France)
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>>135569974
I assume they are states/groups of provinces, like in vic 2.
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>>135569997

because wiz doesn't want to play a game with genocide
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what is that flag mod that makes flags more rectanganle?
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>>135570198
but I'm not in most of Europe
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>>135570228
The fuck do those have anything to do with
>1445
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>>135569839
>draw arrow to capital
>watch army take capital
>get pop-up about me taking enemies capital
>boy that was a fun and rewarding playthrough
They literally took the war out of HoI, it has been castrated.

>>135569805
Back in the day there were two groups, the rich and the poor, the rich felt naturally better than the poor and the poor just didn't cause too much off a stink.
Then the middle class emerged, people with enough money to go to university, study politics and generally be students, they still resented being looked down on by the rich and so through this they associate themselves with the poor, even though if I see any of those poofs round my fucking estate I'll smash their heads in
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>>135570313
rectanganle flag mod
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>>135570265
isn't wiz mainly working on Europa?
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when did these meme ideas sneak in?
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>>135570334

Same here brother I know your pain. I'd love the ability to carpet bomb civilian populations and events giving bonuses for exterminating undesirables.
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>desu you lads rip on hoi4 like Johan doesn't know what he's doing, he know exactly what he's doing
>Johan is undertaking a systematic effort to change hoi, to make hoi more like eu4 and ck2... it is a systematic effort to change Hearts of Iron
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>>135570883
women in history free dlc
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>>135571194
Rubio's a mess. A big fat mistake.
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>there are people in here RIGHT NOW who actually think vic 2's population mechanic is good
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>>135570883
what da fug

who is paradox trying to market to with this shit, hardly and females or tumblrites play games, let alone grand strategy.

or is this a meme
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>>135570003
>HPM is literally railroading even the parties of nations
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>>135570423
>spend 3 hours setting tech tree
>spend 2 hours setting up command structure
>spend an hour setting up production queue
>spend 5 hours waiting for war to actually break out
>spend 2 hours planning an attack
>attack fails miserably because I didn't properly micromanage 740 divisions with 200 command units.
>do identical play through with command structures giving separate commands to AI
>fails miserably because AI is retarded and puts units 5,000 provinces away and breaks supply lines

and how is this better again?
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>>135570423
Not him, but it's more rewarding than doing autistic OOB micro. HoI is supposed to be a grand strategy game not logistics officer and army planner simulator.

You do exactly as much strategy in HoI3 as you do in HoI2, but now spend like 90% of the time moving around little counters and building hierarchies like an autist. They didn't improve the strategy at all. Just went all in on fucking army planning for no reason.

If you prefer that shit, more power to you, but it makes a horrible strategy game.
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>>135570883
Funny thing is these take up an idea slot. So by making your nation have women with more power you make your nation weaker then all others.
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>>135571430
HoI3 plays faster and more smoothly than HoI2, speaking as someone who is good at both.

OOB is entirely optional and its not that hard to manage armies well.
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>>135571338
t. wiz
>>135571401
>how is this better again?
by getting gud
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>>135571353
paradox interactive is a swedish company based in stockholm.
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>>135571401
>spend two hours planning an attack
>spend 3 hours setting up tech tree
I'll concede the other two points if you're shit, but you cannot possibly need that long for the other two
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>>135571401

Because you are a fucking casual who needs to git gud. Poland is literally babbys first invasion.
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>>135571430
>>135571401
>oob hate meme
t. dh dev mad his game is babby tier
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>>135571401
>he doesn't like micromanagement
"Grand"
"Strategy"

Perhaps Civ is more your scene, laddo.
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>>135571194
but seriously lads hoi4 will be a good game please preorder
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>>135571639
Civ 4 can get crazy autistic on the micro lad
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>>135571468

As long as they are optional you can just ignore them. I agree it's a dumb idea though. Leave it to a swede to be cucked.
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>>135571774
the earlier games are always more autistic. I'm pretty sure civ 2 had a proper government system that actually effected how you play, eg Congress blocking you from declaring war. I usually went fundamentalist tbqh
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>>135571639
>implying civilization isn't far more complex than "Grand Strategy" games
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>>135571401
Just play DH like every sane person
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>>135571774
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>>135572031
I just threw up a little in my mouth
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>>135572079
have you ever played IV desu
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>>135572041
how do I get into DH family, I've played it for a few hours but couldn't really get into it. What's a good tutorial nation?
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>>135572338
Step 1: Bind pause to space bar.
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How does one lad genocide in new world order?
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>>135571526
I don't agree. I played thousands of hours of HoI2, but HoI3 is torture unless you use AI to manage your troops and just forget about them. That's not good, it takes away any and all ability to actually control your army and the AI does really stupid shit.
I didn't say it was "hard" either. It's just so mind numbingly boring and time consuming. Takes fucking HOURS to set up the OOB, specially if you're like me and want to have proper armeekorps names and shit.

This doesn't improve the game as a game.
It just simulates something that has very narrow appeal and in the end the game as a whole suffers for it. Like I said, you're welcome to play HoI3, but by God am I glad that OOB shit is gone. It was an interesting experiment that failed.
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>>135572632
>acts autistic
>surprised when it becomes slow

I literally don't make an OOB in 95% of games, and I've never renamed a unit because who gives a fuck. Turns out the game plays fine if you don't intentionally try to screw it up.
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>>135572495
Is there at least a cheat in venilla, I cannot get a facist party in power
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>>135572338
Find a tall building and ride up its elevator to get accustomed to the DH game mechanics.
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>>135572889
Why do you even care about that feature if your suggestion is "don't use it"?
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>>135572632
>but by God am I glad that OOB shit is gone. It was an interesting experiment that failed.
Paradox must be releasing soon, their PR people always crawl out of the woodwork around this time.
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>>135572889
>I've never renamed a unit
I think you are missing the point of the game mate
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>>135573043
Who said I cared about that feature?
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>>135573197
>being this autistic
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>>135572041
dh isn't much better
I mean, it's a better game, but only slightly less autistic
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>>135572632
>HOI3 is boring because I'm forced to spend hours renaming units
you're retarded
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>>135573197
If you enjoy typing names into text boxes, may I suggest playing Notepad.exe?
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>>135573338
>not playing vi
>not playing emacs
git gud
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>>135573213
You are kind of replying to me after I made a point that the defining feature of HoI3 is bad.

Why wouldn't you just play HoI2 or DH or whatever? HoI3 doesn't really improve in any key areas over those. So the only thing it has is the OOB autism.

>>135573332
Learn to read zealot.
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