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>[Pre-America Stuff]
3/9 to 3/23: Half-AP for story missions
3/16 to ???: Supposedly hard event for players that have cleared London
3/9 to 3/16: Fujo Gacha with Marik, Astolfo and Kid Gil and various CEs
>[Main Quest 1/2 AP Campaign]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20160307
March 9 (Wed) 16:00 to March 23 (Wed) 13:59 JST
- All Main Quest from Fuyuki to London will have 1/2 AP Cost
- Must complete London to participate in the upcoming VERY HARD Event
>[Chaldea Boys Collection 2016 Gacha]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20160307b
March 9 (Wed) 16:00 to March 16 (Wed) 13:59 JST
- 5* Ruler: Amakusa Shirou
- 4* Rider: Astolfo
- 3* Archer: Young Gil
- Other 5*: Vlad, Zhuge Liang, Tesla
>[Chaldea Boys Collection 2016 Limited CE Campaign]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20160307c
March 9 (Wed) 16:00 to March 16 (Wed) 13:59 JST
You can select 1 free CE from below:
- 5* Kiss Your Hand: Arts/Buster/Quick +10%
- 5* Professor and Me: Start with 50% NP, crit weight +300%
- 5* Versus: ATK +80%, DEF +40% against Divinity
- 4* Four Beasts of the Moonlight: NP gain +12%, star rate +12%, regen 200HP
- 4* Glassful Sweet Time: Sure-hit, damage plus +400, damage cut -200
- 4* Noisy Obsession: Crit damage +15%, NP damage +15%, Charm rate +12%
- 3* Salon de Marie: Evasion x1, heal +5%, debuff rate +3%
- 3* Prince of Slayers: Crit star +1 every turn, ATK +8% againts dragons
>News and Reminders
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xth for best archer
Siegfried!
>secondaries from gaming websites will think that Nero is the same person as Arthuria when the extra thing gets revealed
Are you ready /fgog/?
>>134930717
I'll bow before the king's ass
>>134930717
>No mystery countdown site
http://project-cosmos.jp/
First for when's Berserker Blossom?
Qin Liangyu WHEN?! She's the only waifu I would whale for.
>>134930859
That's literally the reason Nero was designed to look that way.
>>134930898
We don't have Fate/Strange Fake's next release up there either. It's another Fate project, not Grand Order.
xth for clown.
>>134930859
It can't be possibly be worse than Zero Secondaries.
>>134930859
After pic related, nothing can surprise me anymore.
I will transcend realities and free tamamo from the throne of heroes and make passionate love to her.
>>134930859
That was the reason she's a saberface so yeah I'm ready.
>>134930869
That toddler only wishes she had that kind of ass
>>134930898
It's not a mystery when it has shit that only Extra can claim all over it. It's either a remake of Extra+CCC or an anime for either or both.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElQIbHsT3Ik
>A woman who wields a sword boldly.
>A stoic warrior clothed in red robes.
>A magical fox girl.
>>134930980
Is there even a date for that?
>>134931039
#2f course
>>134930810
>>134930963
>wanting a black haired saberface
Why do you torture yourself like that anon?
>>134930898
Hello there newfriend.
You seem to be mistaken. This is a thread for Fate/Grand Order. That link isn't relevant to us so there is no need to include it in the OP or talk about it here. If you wish to talk about the Nasuverse in general, please go to /tmg/. If there is no thread available, please make one yourself.
>Tamamo remembers the events of Extra as memories of another Tamamo in the future even though none of the other Servants make this fucking distinction between their memories
Nasu seems to be trying his hardest to waifu pander while not cucking the past protagonists as well. Too bad it's not working.
He's my only 5* besides Waver.
Pls no bully.
What class will sanzang be?
>>134931203
Shota Alex does.
And it's not like screwy memories that that wasn't a theme in some of his early works like KnK and Tsukihime.
>>134931027
A remake with both extra and CCC put together with more content sounds fun but typemoon already has way to much on their plate as it is and the company who made them is dead.
On the other hand a anime could be cool but CCC can't be done without extra plus with two protagonists and 4 servants one of which only appears in CCC it's a disaster waiting to happen.
Personally something no one cares about is more likely.
>>134931203
Tamamo is a special case since she has a primordial true self still in existence completely indifferent to the time axis.
She is separate but still connected with that original self, who meets Hakuno in a dream.
>>134931163
You forgot the
>no need to thank me, i'm just doing my bit
>implying the extra site isn't a grand order EXTRA collab with5* arcuidand 4* extra Vlad,
Enkidu when?
>>134931264
No shame. As long as you get a decent CE to boost his NP damage, he can pull his weight.
>>134931324
Honestly I think the only way an Extra anime would work is as a fandisk with episodes like Carnival Phantasm. Just humorous vignettes about each of the servants and bosses and such.
>>134931379
Is tamamo of fate/go and the original one (not amatarasu) still in love with hakuno?
>>134931379
I wonder if Amaterasu got killed by the ars arcanum salmonnutshot.
>>134931005
>he still wants to do it, the absolute madman.
>>134931282
>"This isn't my first time fighting in the Holy Grail war. I think this may be my fifth... Or ninthc Hmm, I wonder which it is"
Alexander's memories are merely hazy, he doesn't claim a disconnect between his current self and those memories like Shiki/GO!Tamamo does.
Also it's incredibly fucking convenient that apparently the GO Servants have their memories from every summoning ever but everything irrelevant is a haze while their memories from previous Fate works are clearer for whatever arbitrary reason. And that they don't already have memories of how the GO story will end so they can't spoil it for you.
>>134931005
How tho
>>134931264
I'm going to bully the SHIT out of you.Eight.Point.Zero.
>>134930980
>>134931056
Next Fate/Strange Fake will be released the 10th of May.
http://dengekibunko.jp/newreleases/978-4-04-865763-1/
Sensei!
>>134931556
Ammy is a Sun goddess, not an Earth goddess. She probably got nerfed to hell and back from getting the entirety of her remaining worshippers nuked off the face of the Earth though.
http://tatari.byethost33.com/tmfools/06/index.htm
>>134931548
>Is tamamo of fate/go and the original one (not amatarasu) still in love with hakuno?
Amaterasu: not in love to begin with, just mildly amused by one of her facets falling for a mortal.
F/GO Tamamo: she's conflicted. In the valentine's event she basically says she likes Guda, but she knows she will have a true love in the future. So she will continue to serve the protagonist with all her might, but romance is going to be at arm's length. It's not something she intended, but her future self's memories are with her.
So extremely roundabout way of saying yes.
>>134931264
Sweet my first five was exactly a ruler also to be exact. Man how time flies, I remember when I first got Jeanne that I told myself that she was all I needed. Sadly she's now gathering dust in the back burner.
>>134931680
Finally, the strangefags will rise once more.
best daughteru
>>134931556
Solomon ain't no Xehanort, nor is a Sora clone so no she's still alive.
>>134931809
You may need to break her out next event if it's actually as hard as they're tooting.
Rulers are the content clearing class. Wish I rolled Amakusa so I could have a triple ruler threat.
>>134931264
At least Waver can carry him for you.
>>134931773
>The state of Tamamofags
>Even Nerofags and Scatfags were given waifu moments in the Valentines Event while Tamamo pretty much friendzones you
>>134931943
>wanting 8.0
For what purpose? Just use a team with two Jeannes and your set.
>>134931734
Good night /fgog/. I love you.
>>134932078
Yeah but triple rulers has to beat double rulers, no? I don't have any adequate persistence hero for the double Jeanne.
tfw no best CE
>>134931902
fixed
>>134932181
Use kintoki, the other 10/10 servant from the tier list. Which means he's 2ch approved.
>>134931943
Oh yeah I break her out now a again for boss battles but aside from that, she just isn't useful outside of difficult battles. I still love her though, grateful that she's come to me two more times after that even though I dunno if her NP becomes more useful the more levels it has.
Wait, if Erumeroi regresses back into Waver as you ascend him because of some bullshit about that being the peak ideal of his life or whatever why doesn't EMIYA regress back into Shirou?
>>134932314
Fanservice.
Why are Assassin bosses the worst?
>>134932265
>finally got around to hypermaxing Kintoki during the KnK event (aside from Natural Body because it's a dogshit skill)
Feels good man.
>>134931734
Sensei is now part of the soapland industry?
>>134932041
They should have just gone with Tamamo Cat she basicly loves you with all her might and like Bride is the uncucked version of Tamamo. Plus her valentines chocolate was the cutest.
>>134932265
Don't have him.
Best servant I've got is the 8.8 Attila.
I mean, she's not bad. I have level 10 Star Emblem, did her interlude, and max leveled/fou'd her. She puts out pain regularly and evenly. But she's not a great pair for two Jeannes.
Is it just me or is Waver insanely overpowered.
Like seriously. I got him and wow at level 50 he has more attack than most 4* at the same level
>>134932314
Because Waver is the most popular one. Why would anyone want EMIYA to be Shirou?
>>134932241
I don't see it.
is it her crotch?
>>134932394
That's not Archers.
At least Assassins mostly have single-target NPs. Archers just wipe your entire team.
>>134931773
She's loyal as fuck to Hakuno? Sounds good. I really don't like the idea of Servants becoming whores just because of "new self-insert" master here.
>>134932236
>deploy it
>>134932265
>2ch approved
Feels good.
>>134932412
>expanding the berserker's health pool
>shit
Nigga that's vital in the end. Every turn of persistence is another turn of brutality.
Best guy on my friendlist is a 10/10/10 NP level 2 Kintoki with level 5 Kaleidoscope. Dude's an unstoppable freight train.
>>134932421
Two Jeannes and Atilla should be tier list approved, 8.8 isn't too bad compared to 7.5
>>134932471
that's like every 5 star servant though
that said, his defence buff is crazy good, as well as all of his skills adding NP
>>134932314
So they can release Shirou separately as the event Servant EMIYA Lily.
>>134932041
I actually find it weird that they flirt with [you] in the game.
>>134932538
Legio X deployed!
>>134932483
She has a pube sticking out.
>>134932545
>9.11
Isn't he the only 10/10 besides Jeanne?
Why do we use the term "(Class) Orion" instead of "(Class) Gilgamesh"?
>>134932545
Why is Kintoki so good?
>>134932664
I think that's the korean list were the only one over 9 is him.
Why is waver able to talk in Grand order? Isn't the heroric spirit possessing the hist the whole point of psuedo servants?
>>134931746
>>134931938
She's a goddess who exists because of humanity. Humanity is no more since foundation. She was erased from existence as everything else.
>>134932685
Because people used to rate Orion lower than Gilgamesh. Now people realize that a shitty single target NP is better than than a really shitty AoE.
>>134932394
Assassins just kill someone. Archers level the whole fucking field.
I still remember the days when the game first game out and fucking shadow servant gil from the original 40AP quests was instant fucking death.
>>134932586
>EMIYA Lily
fund it
>>134932685
>we
Anyway, where the fuck have you been, niggas are already shifting to (Class) Gilgamesh as the hottest new buzzword
>>134932685
Because regardless of the opinion of one nip with a website, Orion is the worst 5-star Archer.
>>134932718
Anyone got that list? Haven't heard of it before? What rank is gilgamesh?
>>134932750
Apparently the Servant doesn't think anyone around is worth talking to. It's like how Jeanne could give Laeticia control in Apocrypha when she wanted.
>>134932750
It's fanservice. Waver is popular. That's all there is to it. There is no logic behind it.
>>134932829
>What rank is Gilgamesh
Oh boy here we go again.
>>134932783
Gilgamesh has charisma and hits like a fucking truck with crits, though. Even with loads of crit stars, Orion still does piss-poor damage. I don't even have Gilgamesh and I think that's a stupid argument.
Why do we rate servants solely on NPs? If that were the gold standard, why isn't Saber Alter the end-all be-all to everything in the entire game?
>>134932471
Waver is one of the top 5 Servants of the game.
>>134932869
How did he even get possessed in the first place?
>>134932845
Why the fuck you keep referencing Laeticia/Jeanne. it's not the same shit.
>>134932750
Because Zhuge Liang is an antisocial misanthropic fuck who'd doesn't want to deal with this bullshit so he lets Waver take control.
>>134932750
Zhuge Liang refuses to talk to anyone except Liu Bei.
Liu Bei is not around, so he fucks off and goes to sleep.
>>134932501
>>134932787
There are golden Lancers who can fuck up Archers. Bryn and Scat one shot bosses and Karna the mobs.
But there's no fucking *5 offensive Casters to deal with the pain in the butt that are Assassins.
>>134932845
There's only one way to fix this.
>>134932917
Don't think about it too much. Maybe Zhuge Liang got bored one day.
>>134932939
>>134932949
Makes you wonder how he is even among heroic spirits.
>>134932992
if you ever get the black grail CE, that shit is crazy good on medea
>>134932471
Because Waver used to be the most worthless gold servant next to Stheno, so they buffed the fuck out of casters, and then buffed the fuck out of Waver in particular, making him the best servant in the game after Kintoki and Okita.
Any team with Waver is viable because of his fucking attack buff. His mere presence takes useless servants and makes them relevant.
>>134932992
>But there's no fucking *5 offensive Casters to deal with the pain in the butt that are Assassins.
Good thing Caster Liz was both free and is GOAT offensive Caster.
>>134932992
Da Vinci-chan will save us all.
>>134932917
He was playing a RotK game when he was poofed into Servanthood.
Probably in his underwear too.
>>134933053
Caster Liz deals no damage, both her cards and NP. Don't lie to yourself.
>>134932949
DW needs to add his fuccboi so that he'll be motivated to be social. He'll I'm surprised he didn't get any special lines with Lu Bu.
>>134933014
>most wanked RoTK fag ever
>hurr why is this guy a heroic spirit
>>134932938
This is literally the first time I've mentioned her in fgog. I don't think I've seen anyone else mention Laeticia in the past several days worth of threads, either.
Anyway, it's different in some respects, but that part of it works the same way. Waver/Zhuge Liang isn't like Mashu where he just has the powers; the Servant personality is also there and just doesn't come to the surface most of the time.
>>134933053
She deals with mobs, but she doesn't have a single target NP that can deal with a level 200000000hp boss and Nasu has anticipated MHX will have more retarded skills in the future. Same with Loli Book.
We need a one hit wonder like Medea only with better damage and stats.
>>134933065
Implying half of these losers will roll Da Vinci when she comes out.
>>134932896
Saber Alter IS the end-all be-all when it comes to 4*s. She and Herk are the only 10.0s on that jap tier list that keeps getting passed around.
>>134933152
>most wanked
You mean that's not Guan Yu?
>>134933065
>>134933201
You can only summon her if you have a maxed Mona Lisa CE.
>>134933065
Sakamoto team soon!
>>134933190
>muh MHX
>muh unique skills
She got one shotted by my Kintoki before being able to do anything. They really need to step it up.
>>134933072
That's fucking hilarious, Adult Waver looks serious all the time but he sounds like he'll be good company to hang around with.
So, what're Atalanta's interludes about?
>>134933214
herc is 9.5 these days
only alter and titty-alter are 10s
>>134932949
>Liu Bei is not around
And thank fucking god he isn't, I would literally burn my waver if he was constantly yelling BENEVOLANCE in battle.
>>134932917
By the magic of Sakurai being a terrible writer and just wanting a scene of him and shota Iskander.
It makes no fucking sense. When Zhuge Liang was summoned, it dragged Waver from his timeline for absolutely no reason whatsoever. That's it.
>>134933214
Closely followed by Santa Alter and Lancer Alter.
>>134933153
Zhuge Liang + Waver is so fucking arbitrary.
At least Laeticia is practically 21st century Jeanne. What do Waver and Zhuge Liang share in common? One is a grumpy professor at not-Hogwarts in Britain. The other is a grumpy tactician from ancient China. Literally the only trait they share is being grumpy.
>>134933214
You haven't seen it recently then. The other 10/10 is Lancer Artoria Alter, not Herc.
Herc is 9.5, alongside Frankenstein, Beowulf, Santa Alter, and Ryougi Shiki.
http://appmedia.jp/fategrandorder/93558
>>134932896
>Orion still does piss-poor damage
Orion is good when you deal with bosses. Have you actually tried them? Orion isn't great but, besides Robin (and MHX), it's the only one who can take down Saber bosses with one hit target.
>>134933152
>>134933253
Guan Yu is pretty wanked with his whole God Of War Nonsence, but he's still not as bad as Zhuge "my biography is literally fanfiction I made up" Liang.
>>134933281
He's cranky as hell, and very tsundere, but he's a good man underneath.
>>134933332
Waver was playing Konami videogames.
>>134933332
Grumpy and highly intelligent.
Waver cleans up his act very nicely.
>>134933258
Well glad I have two and working towards the other ones. :^)
>>134933332
That's the part that's different. I literally only gave an example of a Servant summoned into a human body having both personalities to give the guy I was replying to a point of reference.
And yeah, it's pretty arbitrary. Waver's got the whole tactician thing going on (not just the war games, but also his ability to direct other mages to make better use of their abilities, like with Luvia in Case Files), but it's not a very strong connection. Would have made a lot more sense if he'd been Holmes, since Gray keeps comparing herself to Watson.
TYPE MOON MUSOU GAME WHEN?
>>134933304
It's because Waver and Alexander are the single OTP that cross every universe in TM.
Everyone else is just routes while this one is steady.
How exactly does Merlin being alive in the present disqualify him from being summoned as a Heroic Spirit? The Throne is outside time so even if he dies in the far, far future he'll still eventually end up in it right?
>>134933332
>At least Laeticia is practically 21st century Jeanne
That's because the Great Grail specifically content ID'd a Jeanne compatible person in the romanian area to host Ruler. No such screening process has been implied for Zhuge Liang.
>>134933546
Soon.
http://gematsu.com/2015/11/japanese-users-want-precure-warriors-game
>>134933561
It's implied that Merlin is immortal. If you never die you can never become a Heroic Spirit.
>>134933561
Same as Scat. Cannot die unless there are abnormal circumstances (like Solomon wiping out Shadow Lands with her on it). I assume it'll be the same case with Merlin.
>>134933561
It means he will never die.
HOLY SHIT
WHAT IF PROJECT COSMOS IS THE FATE MUSOU TAKEUCHI WANTED TO MAKE?
>>134933612
>>134933561
Living in Avalon with King Arthur and Shirou FOREVER!
Drake can come too.
>>134933579
>Romanian area
She was in France, mate. Jeanne has to take a plane across Europe and spent the whole flight praying it wouldn't crash (after she was done marveling at basic math and being able to read).
Jeanne's case was weird because Amakusa existing as another Ruler confused the fuck out of the grail, but they emphasize the extreme, soul-level similarity between Jeanne and Laeticia as important in Jeanne being able to use all her stuff without interference.
>>134933615
Yet he's a Servant anyway.
>>134933561
Very unlikely he'll die. However he's confirmed to be a playable unit so he eventually he'll be summonable as a Servant. Maybe Fou-kun will do the same thing Solomon did and make himself a HS.
>>134933136
Zhuge Liang never met Lu Bu. The latter was executed long before Zhuge Liang entered the picture.
>>134933750
Implying Avalon wasn't destroyed as well like the Land of Shadows. Merlin is on the servant leak list isn't he?
>>134933532
How does Nasu even justify suddenly adding all these characters from fictional novels as Heroic Spirits?
Previous, Heroic Spirits who were fictional were either believed to be real by the masses or really strange fringe cases but now we're getting fictional characters everyone knows are fictional like Heroic Spirit Frankenstein's Monster and Heroic Spirit Don Quixote and Heroic Spirit Count of Monte Cristo and Heroic Spirit Jekyll and Hyde, sometimes alongside the fucking authors of their books like it's standard fare.
>>134933803
>some jew
>reaching the unreachable
If Merlin is dead, explain Fou.
Why is Solomon the Grand Caster instead of Merlin?
Isn't Merlin is more powerful?
>>134933826
Mobage's aren't canon and should be taken with a grain of salt. It's why grand order has more."Pandering" designs that wouldn't fly in a normal fate work.
>>134933826
Hey they need to fill out the roaster somehow.
>>134933696
I personally hope it's some sort of pvp game set in the mooncell. That would be baller as fuck.
Is my team good?
>>134933532
>complaining after Arturia is an alien and Santa Claus
Anon.
>>134933889
Nope.
Why would he be? Merlin has the amazing EX Clairvoyance eyes, sure. But Solomon has the amazing EX Clairvoyance eyes in addition to ten silver rings that bind 72 demon gods, can summon and command angels and demons, and can blow up the earth with a billion Excalibur-tier lasers while laughing and jacking off.
>>134933896
Fran and Jekyll are both from previous Fate works.
>>134933940
>Saber Orion
>Lancer Orion
Reroll
>>134933786
This whole you have to be a servant to be playable character needs to stop the only thing implying normal shiki is even a servant is the assassin class the event even ends with her following you back she not summoned merlin is probably the same or as you said he will just summon himself.
>>134933612
>Kancolle
>no comment
>>134933940
I dunno but I would really like to switch my Karna for his brother.
>>134933940
>Orion Saber
>Orion Archer (black ver)
>Orion Lancer
>Shakes to buff a team with two of the most shitty Buster NPs
>not maxed Mashu
>>134933889
Solomon is the big bad. Merlin is the animal sidekick.
>>134933896
But fgo is more canon than zero, according to TM.
>>134934010
>Saber Orion
He didn't post shiki senpai
>>134933826
By making them non-fictional in canon. Frankenstein and his monster are stated to have actually existed in Apocrypha (Caules has his notebook).
The way Gray talks about Watson as a writer in the intro to Case Files suggests he and Holmes could be real too, but are much less conclusive.
Monte Cristo will be the weird one to explain, since Dumas is also a Servant, but it's always possible to say they lived in different universes or that Dumas based his book on a real guy he knew, since we already know he learned about Dead Apostles and shit during his lifetime. (Anyone know who the Charles he was talking to in the theater is, by the by?)
>>134934026
>small c
>>134933826
>How does Nasu even justify suddenly adding all these characters from fictional novels as Heroic Spirits?
Most of the time, it's that the novel was either knowingly or unknowingly inspired by an actual case.
The Phantom of the Opera was a creepy serial killer who became obsessed with a girl named Christine, for example. But he's not ugly, the book isn't accurate to his life story.
Viktor Frankenstein was an actual magus who created a new form of life that was neither human nor homunculus, Mary Shelley just happened to write a story about him.
Things like that.
>>134933993
Because they're real people and those characters were based on them?
>>134933889
I think Grand Servants should be human. Merlin doesn't consider himself human.
I do think Solomon is right now more powerful than anything considering he soloed everyone, however in that case Merlin as a Servant is the same as these gods Servants, an irregularity.
>>134934191
Does anyone else think Merlin will come out along side De Vinci?
>Viktor Frankenstein summons frankenmoe in a grail war
How would it turn out?
![fate-zero-22-24-05[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Z0cWLQu.jpg "fate-zero-22-24-05[1].jpg")
>Gudako still doesn't have an official VA
>instead we have to deal with that faggot Free! protag seiyuu showing up at every GO event
>>134934238
>releasing two Casters at once
Stepping on each other's toes there.
>>134934079
You can handwave Dantes as some hack bullshit that Solomon did because he summoned him and he wasn't supposed to be summoable.
>>134934267
Frankenmoe goes crazy and kills him on the spot?
>>134932545
dat number from gooks not japs
>>134934238
No.
They win more money to release them separately.
>>134934267
He better use a command spell immediately or she smashes his face in. Frankenstein was in total opposition with his monster, his entire life.
Shakespeare tries to make an illusion of Victor Frankenstein in Apocrypha, it just makes her flip the fuck out.
>>134934321
Why was Fate Viktor such a faggot?
>original Viktor
>create horrible monstrous towering hulk of a man
>freak out at how ugly he is
>Fate Viktor
>create qt daughteru
>freak out at how ugly she is (???)
>>134934191
Gods and servants aren't on the planet and people like arc and merlin can just go to the backside of the world or something and I don't think ORT dead so I wouldn't count them at least not yet Gaia probably dead but it's alway dies so who cares.
>>134934430
I thought she loved him, going for her backstory. He rejected her feelings and shit.
>>134934276
Its wonderful!
>>134934512
>>134934430
The original Frankenstein probably would've turned out a pretty cool guy if his creator didn't reject him at every turn as well.
>>134934512
She wanted to love him, but his continuous refusal drove her to fury. She ended up killing everyone he loved because he simply would not comply.
>>134934486
I don't think you understand what Solomon did.
He destroyed humanity since the beginning and wiped out all life on Earth (as planet). Arc ceased to exist because she was never modeled to begin with.
All the gods places were hit hard, the land of shadows is one of them. It's not like gods are powerful when in CCC Gilgamesh is regularly stronger than most of them (except for those older than he is like the one BB lunched).
>>134934512
Yeah, he also refused to build her an Adam or something.
>>134934625
Do Mordred and Fran ever bond over their daddy issues?
>>134934267
He either get murdered like the Shakespeare puppet of him did, or he somehow learns to be less of an asshole and makes her another monster to fuck.
>>134934318
True. It's not super far-fetched to make him real either, though. Dumas based part of him on his dad and a few other bits on some other actual people.
>>134934447
He wanted to create the ideal human, and was disgusted because most of her parts for communicating and expressing emotion don't work, so he thought she was retarded and didn't have any. Then she found an animal and thought its guts were really pretty, so she showed them to him, and he freaked out because he thought she was basically Ryuunosuke. The rest played out pretty much like the novel, minus Godwin and Milton.
>>134934625
So she was another retarded yandere. No wonder the guy hated her. She was a monster.
>>134934730
It wasn't her choice to be a monster though, he created her he should have taken responsibility.
>>134934703
Actually, he did nothing wrong except not destroying her sooner. Are we seriously pitying an entitled murderous bitch?
>>134934846
>create life
>"eh, fuck it, throw it in the bin"
what are ethics
Which CE should I claim with my team?
>>134934668
No. They meet once, for all of about a minute, in which time Mordred tanks Fran's mace and then skewers her through the heart while smashing three golems at the same time. Then Fran does Blasted Tree with a command seal backup and blows herself up. Then Kairi command seal teleports Mordred out of the way, so Fran exploding accomplishes literally nothing. This becomes a wake up call for Caules that he needs to be more serious about shit.
>>134934807
In destroying her, you mean? Seriously, what do you expect? She has no place or room in society or among people.
>>134934863
Bow chika woof woof
>>134934898
Trashbin
>>134934876
>create a murderous monster
>take responsibility and kill it
Exactly how should go. You are just a shallow fag that because 'she's cute' you excuse her evil behavior.
>>134934929
Obviously not in Apocrypha. They interact plenty in GO though.
>>134934929
Poor Fran becoming fodder to give Sieg a cheap power-up.
>>134934645
>He destroyed humanity since the beginning and wiped out all life on Earth (as planet). Arc ceased to exist because she was never modeled to begin with.
You might have a point but then nether merlin or scathach or others would exist.
>All the gods places were hit hard, the land of shadows is one of them. It's not like gods are powerful when in CCC Gilgamesh is regularly stronger than most of them (except for those older than he is like the one BB lunched).
That's not true gods just got nerfed to shit from the age of gods ending tamamo full power is way higher than Gil even without going god mode.
>>134934956
On this team then
>>134935015
She didn't start the murderin' until Victor failed to validate her existence and rejected her numerous times.
He failed her and she became twisted beyond salvation. Neither can be considered in the right. Playing god results in a calamity.
>>134935080
>MHX
It's shit.
>>134934898
>Void
Get a Waver, mang.
>>134934931
Hopefully you never become a father, with such high expectations i'd hate to be your kid man.
Why is Caesar fat again?
>>134934929
>accomplishes literally nothing
Except that she still screwed Mordred pretty badly.
>>134934931
Victor pls
Look at it from her perspective. The only thing you've ever known is the father who gave you life, so it's natural that you love them, but they only respond to your love with hatred, fear, and aggression. It's only natural to start to hate something that's acting so irrational.
>>134935147
When you fight him in Septem, he says it's because Rome has the best food and is all about abundance and shit.
>>134935147
Why is Alexander the Great a seven foot tall bara?
Why is Gilgamesh a bishie aryan?
Why is King Arthur a girl?
You are very late to this series if you are asking these kinds of questions.
>>134935128
And? That doesn't excuse her to be a murderous bitch who will kill to in a tantrum to want someone's love and approval. She's a mad dog that needs to be put down.
>>134935145
She's an experiment, not his baby.
Sorry, these kind of yandere cunts get zero sympathy from me.
>>134935192
Mordred was singed, but she wins a fight with Siegfried immediately after that, then kills Celenike, then jumps to the Hanging Gardens and saves Jeanne and Chiron, then helps kill Avicebron's super golem, so it doesn't appear to have actually impaired her for the rest of that night.
>>134935289
>She's an experiment, not his baby.
She is a living being with desires and needs, not an automaton.
WHAT
ARE
ETHICS
>>134935289
Alright then. Let's agree to disagree and leave it at that.
>>134935267
>Why is Alexander the Great a seven foot tall bara?
The kid version actually has "slowly getting HUGE" as a NP
Zeus did it
>>134935147
You're just looking at him from the wrong angle that's all.
>>134935202
Read >>134935289
You're a dumb waifufag to defend that shitty monster.
>>134935267
Japan has fat fetishers?
>>134935147
>tfw no cute oyaji caesar
>tfw no cute human Orion
These two hurt. At least I've grown to like fat Caesar. And Artemis is ok I guess.
>>134935347
She's an experiment from his laboratory with sadistic tendencies that real murder real people because "daddy hurt muh feelings." Dogs get put down for less.
The chink scans are out, is the raw up to chap2 or beyond?
>>134934898
seriously i just want a answer
>>134935349
I agree, there's no getting through to this guy. But this has result with my desire to ascend my Fran since she's all I rolled when I tried to roll for Mordred and her delicious navel.
>>134935289
>>134935369
Or, y'know, someone who can understand the motivations and emotions of other people. That's called Empathy, and you seem to lack it.
I'm not saying she didn't do anything wrong, I'm just saying that judging her so harshly for reacting to aggression with aggression when she did nothing to deserve it is wrong.
>>134935482
Professor and I = Waver CE. Now leave.
>>134935289
>>134935369
She went crazy LATER, no question, but at the time he rejected her and refused her requests she hadn't done shit. Victor leapt to conclusions and started calling her a murderer way before she tried to hurt anyone, and one of the results of that is that he never tried to sit her down and teach her anything that would have allowed her to be a functional person.
>>134935507
Did Victor kill her family and friends? No?
How can you even fucking compared? She's evil who needs to die. He needs to go to jail for creating her, but after he takes responsibility and kills her.
>>134935441
She doesn't have sadistic tendencies. She is driven to violence out of vile desperation. How do you force someone to comply when they will not listen to any words you say? She was not capable of thinking of other options, but she knows violence compels people.
It wasn't "hurt feelings" but a complete invalidation of her existence. Humans kill for less.
Again; ethics. You make an experiment that has awareness and the capacity for hurt, you take care not to actively hurt it.
>>134934276
Oh stop bitching. Nobu is great.
>>134935527
No waver haha. This is my only team
>>134935627
Not great enough for me to use her anymore, seriously where's my 5* Archer that's all I need and want.
>>134935542
>>134935618
She's not entitled to his affection. See this drives me to a wall. He doesn't need to love her. Period.
You're just blind waifufags blaming on someone who committed a mistake (creating a monster) and trying to excuse her psychopathic actions (the animal guts for one, show she's a sociopath, so no wonder she's driven to murder for near no reason). See >>134935613
>>134935709
They mean the CE with Waver and Alex on it.
>>134935613
>Did Victor kill her family and friends? No?
That's a good joke, anon.
>>134935725
I wasn't talking about Nobu archer. I was talking about Shimazaki Nobunaga.
>>134935728
(You)
>>134935742
Okay thanks
>>134935728
>She's not entitled to his affection. See this drives me to a wall. He doesn't need to love her. Period.
He is ethically obligated to attend to her needs for creating her.
If he didn't want to treat her without pain, he should not have created a life form capable of feeling pain. It is unethical.
>the animal guts for one, show she's a sociopath
At that point she was literally too innocent to understand. If instructed properly, she would never harm a creature like that again.
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>>134935725
Wrong Nobu.
>>134935613
>Did Victor kill her family and friends?
Her only family was Victor, and he treated her like complete shit. Don't act like Victor din du nuffin, you daft arse.
>>134935728
>a Father doesn't have any obligation to love their child
Holy shit, remove yourself from the gene pool. Either kill yourself or become a Eunuch, I don;t care which, but for fucks sake, do the world a favor and ensure you can never breed. For the kid's sake.
>>134935754
I'm answered, then. She is fucking evil, so fuck off with your retarded evil waifu worship. I'm tired of this dindu waifu worship. They should learn from Asterious who admits he did really bad shit and will change and redeem himself, even if he denies himself. That's an actually well written character, unlike "blame someone else, trying to white wash my shitty waifu is a psycho killer."
>>134935618
Spouting the word ethics uncontested doesn't grant you the ethical high ground by default.
>>134935858
Where's the part where they try to lick the tatas?
>>134935728
>and trying to excuse her psychopathic actions (the animal guts for one, show she's a sociopath, so no wonder she's driven to murder for near no reason).
Literally every elementary school brat would be a sociopath by that logic.
>>134935879
If you think it's in any way ethical to make something that can experience hurt, and then hurt it, then you are fucking twisted.
>>134935848
>>134935861
She's an experiment who doesn't qualifty as human being for his era standards (or ours, for one). He's not obligated to do shit but terminating her and it when he sees she's a failure.
He's also obligated to get into jail for doing something so stupid.
>>134935728
He's not obligated to love her. He was obligated to either destroy her immediately when he deemed her a failure, or to sit down and at least try to teach her things like how to communicate and "killing is wrong." That's part of making sure his experiment doesn't become a danger to others. He didn't try to do that. He left her to her own devices with no kind of supervision or training because her tear ducts don't work and her vocal cords are weird, then he freaked out and ran off because she accidentally killed a wild dog that attacked her and tried to show it to him. He is completely responsible for all the deaths his experiment caused because he fucked up and took no basic precautions.
>>134935728
Then what is she entitled too? Bare in mind that this is a being that has a concesiones it's not some animal. That by itself deserves to be treated with care, why do you think we humans don't clone ourselves, simply because if anything goes wrong we can't simply kill it because it's a monster that's inhuman and you are inhuman for deciding to end a life simply because you deem it ugly and unworthy of your care when your the one who created it. Believe it or not but there is actually a law that protects clones if there are ever made from humans to protect them from people like you.
>>134935476
dat file name
>>134935952
>Literally every elementary school brat would be a sociopath by that logic.
If they do that, they are actually sociopaths.
