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Build robots in other games so you dont have to play MWO edition

New /gerg/ game, from the makers of Shadowrun Returns
http://battletechgame.com/

Mechwarrior Living Legends:
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

Living Legends Installer + Gamespy fix:
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php?topic=19022.0
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,20422.0.html

Living Legends Server Stats (Use this to check if anyone is playing):
http://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html

The HAWKEN zombie marches on:
https://www.playhawken.com/

Heavy Gear Assault:
http://www.heavygear.com/

M.A.V. (Now with more Chromehound legal rights!)
http://www.bombdogstudios.com/index.php/blog/

MechWarrior Online:
http://www.mwomercs.com/

New Player's Guide to MWO:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bmIEjECA6IbWRm92vmylZNv2QYVc5gXO7CT9jMITOrM/edit

MWO CW Map Viewer:
http://www.norrisdev.com/mwocw/

Kong PodKast #25: Heavy Gear Stuff
http://kongkast.libsyn.com/kong-kast-25-gear-bays-black-market-and-pets-oh-my

MWO Mechlab:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab

MWO Heat Simulator:
http://keikun17.github.io/mwo_heat_simulator/

Kanajashi's Video Tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGPYOrhEFtg [Embed] [Embed]

Happy New Year Everyone

Mumble Info:
Kong Mumble: kong-interstellar.typefrag.com
Port: 8270
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>he played MWO.
>hated MWO.
>decided to bring shitty battletech designs to other games.
>other games are just as grindy and shitty.

1/10.
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The Kaelus Kids have been exiled from Kong. Thank your lucky stars for dudebot.
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So why all the love for Thunderbolt?
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>>127431093

High up chest mounted lasers. Lets you easily peek over shit and fire. Most other mechs are stuck with arm or dick level lasers, meaning they have to expose their entire body just to fire and hit something.
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>>127431674
Is there a go to load out? Or a load out good for pugging?
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>>127428997
Does the game not have missile weapons for you to attach or something? More lasers tacked on top is just horrible.
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>>127431739

2-3 large lasers of your choice, and then medium lasers, standard 300 engine, and stuff the rest oif the space with heatsinks.

If you variant has 2 missile slots, you can try taking 2 SRM6's if you like those, but its generally better to just boat the shit out of lasers.
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>>127431972
early access
"I'll finish it, swear on me mum!"
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>>127433002

>MWO: released, but still really in early access.
>MAV: early access.
>Heavy gear: early development.
>Hawken: early access zombie lord.
>Robocraft: early access F2P.
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RIP
I
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Thread.
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pity bump
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Dead fucking thread.
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>>127439301
Then why the fuck did you bother remaking it you fucking kike?
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>>127432113
>surms on a thunderbolt
Are you prince pubbie?
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>>127444951

he said if you want to, nerd.
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>>127432113
>thunderbolts
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>>127445295
Calling people a nerd while defending prince pubbie

You would bring lurms on your thunderbolt right?
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>>127445363
oi fuck off m8
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>>127446169
he wasn't defending anything, fag.

go back to reddit
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>>127446341
Wew are you part of the shitter defence force?
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>>127432113
LRM5s
Lighter, smaller, synergizes better, won't put him at overheat risk as much, does okay in pub matches.

Still better to take more heatsinks unless there is absolutely no more space left. New fillter-rating engines are expensive investments for a new player desu.
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>>127446709
Better a lowly soldier in the shitter defense force than be High Lord Commander of the starting shit where there isn't Master shitposting legion.

You reddit hipster watching women youre attracted to get fucked by niggers turns you on fucking cunt.

I sincerely hope all the bad things that can happen to a person happen to you.
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>>127447102
I am from the steam forums you normie
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>>127447308
>steam shitter
>calling anyone a normie

Pieces of shit like you killed KONG.
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>>127447434
>Kettle calling the pot black
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>>127432113
>mixing larges and mediums
>two srm6
>on an IS 65 tonner with std engine

how is that tier 5 ghetto treating you oh great king of shitters?
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>>127448631
Wew lad

Why do you have to be so rude?
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Hello guys is MWO p2w?
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>>127450591
It's pay not to grind. Winning mostly has to do with your team. This isn't CoD bullshit.
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>>127450591
>>127452159
and actually with the cadet bonuses now you can build yourself 1 or 2 pretty viable heavies after your first 25 matches or so. They gift you enough c-bills pretty early just do your research and choose wisely.
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>>127452649
Alright
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>>127454679
We really need to come up with something new to keep the threads alive. Like

hello guys is MWO fun?
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Hello?
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>P2W
>he bought an avenger
>Organizations
>Lobbies
>Optimization
>100m
>Blatant EVE clone
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>>127458406
who are you quoting
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Lads
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hello?
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>>127464308
#fuckoffgreg
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>>127464308
Are you "The Pizzadog"

Epic
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>Berserk manga is put on hiatus until summer of 2016
>it will return as an illregular series
>tfw only think there is robutts
>hear news of a new possible Berserk anime with Guts as "the black swordsman"
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>>127465864
are you lost?
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>>127449224
>>127448631
All this brain problems
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>>127466064
No but are you?
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EBIN BENIS
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>>127465864
cg shit tho. monkeys paw strikes again
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Al dente
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wew lads
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>>127471006
>bumping with stupid posts just to keep your tire fire of a general alive

you all should play a better game like LoL or Warframe.
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Sort of new, not sure which bundle to buy to start off. I was originally thinking Firestarter, but maybe something heavier would be a safer way to go.
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So even though alpine is getting replaced with a new frozen map, it's still going to stick around because stupid assholes voted for it.
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>>127471693
Mastery packs are only worth it for getting the hero mech + everything else, and the only hero even a little worthwhile is Misery.

You're better off just getting some premium time and a bunch of mech bays. Because mech bays are what cock blocks you from most things since you need three variants of a chassis to unlock mastery on them.
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kong drops be happening
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>>127472671
Fair enough. Any suggestions for a medium to buy with cbills? Sort of want to brawl, but maybe support.

Unless the Firestarter can fill that role and not get me murdered at the drop of a hat.
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>>127471693
In terms of bundles, you have options:

Full on meta, best value best mechs:
> Thunderbolt mastery pack
65 ton heavy mech that carries lots of energy weapons. The variants you get in the pack are the -9SE(C) (triple large pulse laser, it's currently a trial mech so you get to use the XP you've gained on it), the -5SS (great for a 7x medium pulse laser brawl build) and the Top Dog (once again, a medium laser boating brawler).

> Blackjack mastery pack
45 ton medium mech that tanks hits like a 65 ton heavy mech. The variants you get in the pack are nice and varied. The BJ-1 is really fun as a 4x medium laser 2x AC2 mech, the BJ-3 is great for 6x medium laser vomit with jump jets, and the arrow lets you build either 3x large pulse laser or 3x ER large laser 6x machine guns for some funny shit.

Fun yet okay to use mechs:
> Catapult mastery pack
65 ton heavy mech that varies a bit between having majority missile hardpoints or majority energy hardpoints. The variants in the pack are the Jester (4x large lasers, snipe away your troubles), the K2 (can vary between 3x large pulse and 4x medium laser 2x UAC5 build) and the A1(C) (currently an LRM/SRM trial mech, honestly REALLY fun with 6xSRM4+A and a large XL engine and jump jets).

> Firestarter mastery pack
35 ton light mech that runs fast and shoots a lot of lasers. They're pretty straight forward, you either skirmish or you backstab people. Ember runs 4x MPL 4x machine gun, the other two are good with 6x medium laser and 6x medium pulse.

> Stalker mastery pack
Nice, current meta assault. Boats lasers and missiles. Misery is the one variant of the chassis that lets you bring a big gun.

> Griffin mastery pack
Missile boats with a touch of laser. 2N is great for ECM and brawling, 1S(C) is great for either sniping or brawling, and sparky is a nice jumping energy mech.


Rest of the packs are not that worth it.
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>>127473167
Two things, first off don't think that clan mechs cost more than IS, clan mechs come upgraded and have their ideal engines.

As to what a decent medium would be, stormcrow can do pretty much anything and is good, if you wanted something for IS you could play the Hunchback trial mech to get a feel how mediums play in general.

Use http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/ to play with builds and get an idea of costs, as a rule of thumb for IS mechs, double heatsinks are pretty much required, endo for most builds, and very rarely will you use Ferro.
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>>127473560
>current meta assault
The Stalker will never fall out of the meta with its hardpoints. It's been the strong battle dildo we all know and love since day 1.
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>>127473864
I was looking at Metamechs for an idea on load outs and I saw 2 laser vomit builds for the Stormcrow. One has the weapons spread out across the torso and arms, and another has the weapons all on the right side. I assume this is for using the left arm to shield. Which way would be best?
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>>tfw you play with bb wolfe
>>she starts the game saying in voice chat "have a nice day~"
>>remind everyone that btw im a girl
>>trolling ensues
>>she insults kong

well she remembers who we are at least, that's kind of like having a girlfriend right guys?
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check out this faggot i found in /tf2g/

>>127469261
>playing anime the game
>having a K/D of 7
>Not having 0 deaths
>not dominating the whole enemy team
>having assists

Kill yourself faggot
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>>127479442
BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT KONG
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>>127479876
Holy shit he's terrible. And he's bragging about that?
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>>127479876
Found the guy's profile, and his build.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=236425351

He fucking based it off the worst mech, Uziel.
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>>127484221
I've seen people praising crabs, I haven't got around to trying them out.
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>>127489384
They're 50 ton energy boats. They're okay. The only thing PGI really did right to them was size scaling, they're nice and tiny.
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>>127479876

why were you in tf2g
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>>127489384
they're reasonably fun and reasonably fast but not OP enough to talk about constantly

if you like lasers go for it
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You guys enjoying your rawbits and space ships?
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Is the medium 'mech performance pack on steam worth a buy?
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>>127500487

None of them are worth it. The mastery bundles aren't worth it, either, but they represent much more value than the steam packages.

Steam grab deals should only be considered if you can get a russian to pay 5 bucks for them.
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I've never played MWO.
Is it worth playing MWO?
Keep in mind that I'm coming from warframe
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>>127502369

MWO is occasionally tons of fun, but the fun is really in spite of the game, and not because of the game, and only comes about because of the people you're dropping with and against.
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>>127502369
Grind isn't as bad as warframe, mechbays will be the biggest thing to worry about if you want to be competitive in CW, which you get them from playing CW or paying.

Solo play is pretty depressing but probably the best to start off with so you can practice in the shitter underhive, Groups are fun with friends who are competent, CW is hell on earth if you have no idea what you are doing.
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>>127502369
It's free to try so if you like robots you might as well give it a shot.
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>>127507930

Make it on smurfy, you fag.
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>>127507930
what am i even looking at
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Greetings, and Happy New years from PGI!!

We love you /gerg/ and what's left of KONG.
Here is a clip of how we celebrated with the New Year Yom Kippur with the shekels we made from you and our other loyal customers.

We love you, and we hope to continue to do business with you for many years to come!
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1451940976731.webm
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>>127510190
happy new years russ
hope you enjoy working on mechs for us forever
sincerely,
kong
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>Rust Bollocks will commit suicide in 2018.
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>>127508696
>>127508754
Not viable for MWO. If heat sinks were scaled to our increased rate of fire, this would be a build that could theoretically happen on a 70 tonner.
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>>127514076

>post in MWO general.
>make build that can't be used in MWO.
>post it anyway.
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>>127515097
This is giant extreme robots general you memeing sperg.
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>>127514076
Could potentially cram 51 medium lasers on a Mech with the normal construction rules, or more using a small cockpit, compact engine or compact gyro.
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>it's a 'Doing more damage as a Catapult than almost anything else' round

Why do Catas get no love? I easily go for 500-800 damage per round, and anybody with a bit of patience can just hide by me to pick off the inevitable butthurt light.
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Seriously, even with no cooperation from light spotters, you can wreck shit with quad LRM-10s and Artemis/Beagle/Command
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>>127517052
#underhive
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>>127517342

>being an elitist F2Player

lol shitter
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>>127517052
STOP
T
O
P
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>>127517052
>LRMS
>command

oh god hahahaha
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>>127519046

>being disconnected from reality enough to assume that all pubbies have lights that do their job
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>>127521125
>>127521125
>being so far from the point
>using LRMs ever

What are you, icegryphon?
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Lets real talk here.
If you haven't spent at least 1k USD in this game since 2012 you literally have no right to say anything about this game that's worth a shit.

I guarantee all people who don't feed the PIG are poverty stricken wagecuckerinos, Discord hating dudebot dick suckers and just jealous they don't have the expendable income to buy as many mechs as they want.
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>>127516368
properly sized nova when
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>>127521441
Dude just fuck off already nobody cares.
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>>127521441
Are you bragging about spending the cost of a new computer on a free game that sucks?
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>>127521441
go to sleep dudebot
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>>127522786
>doesn't give a shit about KONG or Discord
pleb

>>127522863
>doesn't have expendable income where he can buy as much MC as he wants without sacrificing quality of life

poorfag
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>>127521441
poor quality bait dudebot

>>127523078
same here

see me after class
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>>127523078
Have fun rationalizing spending money on individual Mechs in a MechWarrior game.
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>>127523078

>lives with his parents/grandparents/is so poor that his income is insufficient enough to meaningfully reinvest so he calls the neetbux/minimum wage he earns at Burger King 'disposable income'

In a word, kek
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ITS NOT ME
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>>127523706
Ok, that actually made me a bit sad. I'll stop pretending to be Kaelus now. For what it's worth i had fun until you had to be the guy who took it too far.

I love you Kaelus, see you in discord.
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>>127523707
Don't lie dudebot

According to my Samsung Shill Shitposter TM algorithm analyzer, it is a 99.998%( repeating of course) to be you
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>can't decide on first buy

I'm going to just assume it's not a good idea and throw out piloting a Light fullstop, and I keep reading Assaults aren't new player friendly. Which leaves medium or heavy. I just can't figure out what to roll with.

I figure I should go with something that's good for medium to long range because (initially) I'll be doing games with randoms.
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>>127528049
BRAWL OR GIT OUT
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>>127528518
That was my first train of thought, still have the same issue either way. No idea which 'mech to go with.
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>>127529009
Is there any that you think you might like?
IS or Clan?
You'll have to buy three of the fuckers, so...
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>>127528049
>>127529009
A Stormcrow is a good first buy, that can do both ranges rather well.
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>>127529563
Yeah, pretty much this.
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>>127529220
Clan is a bit of a turn off for the initial price of the mech, but I read that both IS and Clan are about the same price in the end. I'd prefer Inner Sphere though, because I might buy a mastery bundle to get started.

>>127529563
>>127529779
Stormcrow comes up a lot, so if all else fails I'll go with it.
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>>127530837
If you really prefer IS the blackjack is a really popular medium right now for closer ranges, i personally like the dual gauss jager for long range.
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>>127530837
Yeah, IS mechs need new engines, heat sinks, and endo steal structure on top of buying new or more weapons. In semi rare cases you'll have to buy both endo and Ferro Fiber. This can double the cost of a single mech. Clans only need new weapons and possible artimis, since their structure, armor, and engine are locked.

I can only speak personally for the mechs I have, and for the medium class my favorite above all for IS is the Hunchback. Great platform all around.
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Has anyone here ever experimented with attaching a NARC to a heavy boat / semi-boat? There's nothing left to put on and there isn't enough space for another launcher, which would trigger spoopy thermals anyway.

It feels like it'd be worth it to buy the whole mech and loadout brand new just to stick a cheeky light with it. Or play peekaboo once with an overconfident Dakkawoof and pepper it from cover.
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>>127531530
Post the build. If there's room and tonnage you can't figure out, you're doing something wrong. Maybe an engine upgrade or some shit.
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>>127531614
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=280&l=c0ef97e81ea7386966cfd0cd6839a878269a5ef3

I guess since it is one of the few mechs with no quirks, it will never be found wanting for variety; just fork out more cash for stuff.
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>>127532541
...of all the things one could use an Ebin Jag for.
>select all the images with boats
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>>127532541
are you retarded
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>>127428997
Hi, /gerg/. I didnt play for more than a year stopped before twirks or something like that, so i need your guidance. Is this shit useful? If not, what should i change?
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>>127532748
Switch the Gauss for an UAC/20 or /10. Cool down on Gauss is a full 5 seconds now.
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>>127532674
I can leave the big gun and laser vomit roles to the other Ebin brothers. I need to buy three in any case.
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>page 9
It is time for fun.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=261&l=78289248d8e9d04d45e1670c4fbdf8dfe379ecaa
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Makings progress of hunchrobot mastery, is not fun to usings lasers of homosex. Good thing Ivanovich only has to elite shitty hunchrobot once so he can of gettings back to glorious 4G and 4J
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http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/218691-january-road-map/

>"Once you’ve used your one free name change, any subsequent name changes will cost 4500MC (~$25USD)."
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We're totally gonna re-vamp and remove the old Alpine guys.
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>>127539202
When are they making the game not shit?
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>>127539276
Quantum Position Physics in action
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>>127539276

2016 will feature advances in the field of position changing, I see.
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=183&l=3bc2cb95b7286d24ce5edda708c7448d990ca45f

or pulse? And should I lump weapons on one side and use an arm to shield?
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>>127447434

If you're gonna post as Kaelus you need to be more condescending and then write a blogpost replying to obvious bait
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Got this in the mail today.
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Is the Nova Prime a good first mech? Last I played it was on trial or something, I remember liking it.
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>>127544973

Better robutt.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=183&l=d5b8491afc602c20ebe513acc7c05843251f17d7
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>>127551196

Nova is shit tier. Start with a 55 tonner instead.
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>Welcome to MWO Oceanic Server.
>Ping 400
Th-thanks.
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>>127550570
>mixing Latin, French, and English

It's almost Transhuman.
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hello?
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ACH is love, ACH is life.
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>>127558827
Literally who in the underhive
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Black Knight worthwhile?
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>Tfw no video games
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>>127561747

I'm willing to play some fun fighting games.
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hello?
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>>127528049
>>127529009
>>127530837
IS brawlers are fun and can punch way above their weight class, provided you tool them out right and learn the critical art of situational awareness.
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>>127566923
>those mech names
wew lad
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>>127566923
>le brawling IS mediums meme

al dente
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AAAHHHHH
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>>127567046
They're all accurate. The Centurion I literally aim at the groin to strip CT/legs, unless they're already missing armour somewhere in which case I harvest their delicious innards. Hunchie I just cave the CT in, and I have gotten a few headshot kills. Critvomit is named so because it has an LB-10X and two machine guns.

>>127567437
SO TASTY
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lads
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If/when pgi finally advances the timeline how do you think stealth armor should be implemented?
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>>127572668
>Thinking we'll get new features

If they advance the timeline it'll be to make new grab deals.
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>>127572801
Of course. Think of all the old man dollars that will flow when the bushwacker and uziel are released.
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THE CLAMPS
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>>127572951

>implying MWO golds have any nostalgic attachments to MW4 shitmechs.

We'll get more unseen instead.
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will I be able to max out this garbage game with a 4790K and a 980 Ti
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>>127574787
>Years playing
>Hey, the Warhammer's coming out huh
>Buy the pack
>Weeks later
>Wait, did I really spend money on this fucking game?

I'm not even that old, I started on MW4 then later on played the earlier ones... I swear getting the IP has been the best thing that has ever happened to PGI. Why is there such a lack of Mech universes that aren't anime turds?
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>>127575656
no
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>>127578976
Because there isnt a universe backed by decades of lore and fond memories.

Do we know when the unseen will come out for cbills?
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>>127579153
That's it, it's the fucking lore that does it... How I wish for a new grime-soaked, acne-ridden nerd team to dream up some mechshit I can throw money at and not feel dirty.

Dates on Unseen mechs are "TBD". AKA "when we stop raking in the money" I guess.
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Can we make loadsa dosh with narc and tag?
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>>127579869
Fug I was afraid of that. I want some MAD for my exoskeleton themed drop deck of locust, crab, marauder, and king crab. Its like pokemon evolutions.

I guess we will have to wait for someone with as much mech autism as we have to develop a universe as captivating as BT that gets a solid following. Im getting my battlefleet gothic 2.0 thanks to DropFleet Commander, so maybe there is a slim chance we can get some mech revival down the road. Current state will always be suffering.
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>>127579957
no
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Guys is MWO p2w?

And which steam mech pack has the best value?
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>>127550570
where are your nails?
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>>127582137
>Guys is MWO p2w?
no
>And which steam mech pack has the best value?
You should buy all of them
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>>127582137
>Guys is MWO p2w?
Yes.

>And which steam mech pack has the best value?
None, don't buy them.
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>>127583703
>>127583840
This reminds me of the 2 talking doors where one is telling the truth and the other one is lying.

when you pick wrong you die :^)
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just started playing mwo, does the day's worth of premium time run down even while not playing?
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>>127585590
Yes
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>>127579869
The lore is awesome and fucking depressing 4 galaxy wide wars have pretty much made technology into quasai magical.
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>>127582805

Eaten.
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>>127585708
what a surprise.

is there a /gerg/ group in mwo that sticks to one particular faction or does everyone here just play separately and shitpost?
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>>127593092
GONK plays usually Clan Wolf KONG alway switches. So if you enjoy clans you can join GONK if not then youre better off solo
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>>127593092
check the mumble in the op, but we haven't had many players on lately. depends heavily on timezone.

we have two groups in game, KONG for IS and GONK for clans
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>>127539276
FUCK

Are they at least going to adjust the geometry and add some fucking trees?!
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So I see people say Hunchbacks are good, and then I see other people say they are bad. Which is it?
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>>127599387
hunchbacks are effective when they have the high ground
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>>127599387
They can put out some serious hurt if they don't get focused but are otherwise soft as fuck.

Also the 4j is one of the few mechs that can really justify using lurms with the perks that it has.
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>>127599932
So it's treason then.
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lads?
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>>127607718
hi
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>>127607718
wew
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>>127608595
lass
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>mumble dead
>discord dead
>ded thred
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>kong is dead
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>>127612986
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*ahem*
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>>127613454
>kaelus is ded
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>>127613827
I'm still here.
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>>127612629
>>127612986
>>127613827
who are you quoting?
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>>127614941
I am quoting the all and powerful hacker called 4chan have you heard of him? Hes a technology analyst and hes good.
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Haven't played in a fucklong time. Started recently again cause fml and only played in the mega underhive. Hows the meta and what's meta mechs atm? Is mastered atlas still usefull agains people with a brain or did it get totaly eclipsed? I've been fucking scrubs up the butt in muh warboss of old but that's in level 5 underhive, so meh.
Not a thinly vailed bump, I swear.
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>started playing mwo in dec
>come to gerg
>lurk
>KONG seems like a pretty cool guy
>doesn't afraid of anything
>time goes by
>shitpost with the best
>feel it is time
>need to be one of KONG intensifies
>KONG falls apart due to internal drama

well, fuck you fags. i didn't wanna be a part of your stupid circlejerk anyway.

oh and Vass sounds like a fag in the podcasts
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>>127616103
We arent falling apart. Its just a whole meme.
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>>127616103
>Vass sounds like a fag
>implying he isn't one

Pic related is Vass challenging HUcast to sweaty king of mexicans XIII batchalls.
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>>127616781
>We arent falling apart
[citation needed]
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>>127617339
>using an old gif that you turned into a webm
Nice try Kaelus
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>>127615859
Atlas is okay for higher tiers but it is usually locked into short range brawling builds. Very dependent on your team's behavior. The HP buffs helped a lot.
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>>127618986
>locked into short range brawling builds
That's no different than it was.
Good that it's still usefull in high tiers, I've always loved the atlas. I asume its warboss or that new(er) S variant? It wasn't around when I mastered mine.
What's a good heavy to get? Timberdoggie rapes everything else I asume? I've seem muhrauders but that shit's loked behind paywall for now.
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>>127620079
I have not loved my Muhrauders for what it is worth. They feel huge and slow, but also somehow undergunned. Maybe I'm not playing with the right builds.

If you want a big slow assault with ballistics, you probably want the KKrab.
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>>127620820
>I have not loved my Muhrauders for what it is worth
A dayum same.
Crab looks great but I was actualy talking about heavy mechs. I've already got muh atlas for ass-aulting. Maybe I'll get a crab aferwards, but I lack a heavy atm.
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Still fairly new, any suggestions for a medium or heavy brawler?
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>>127621703
>Medium brawler
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>>127621703
"brawling" in a medium is a bad meme. The reality of "brawling" with mediums is that you're actually hiding behind your heavies and assaults and praying nobody notices you so you can sneak around and nail their butts while they're distracted. Either that, or you grab a butt-buddy and try to go tag-team a straggling enemy, but light mechs do the wolfpack strategy better, and it falls apart against any team with a hint of neural activity.

All that leaves you with is the "shield arm" meme, a potential for a slight speed advantage over a heavy, and hopefully jumpjets to dunk with.
I miss shadowhawk meta.
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>>127621047
>dashing is hotter than you
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anyone here play vanilla WoW?

remember the blood of heroes in the plaguelands?
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>>127625684
shut the fuck up pizzafag nobody likes you

fucking tripfag attention whore
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>>127625684
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>>127622364
>>127624018
Oh. Well, which heavies are good for brawling then?
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>>127632104
Thunderbolt.
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>>127632104

Furious Feline. Fast, good armor, lots of guns.
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>>127635003
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>>127624018
>turtle Medium strategy
No wonder you think they're bad. Medium brawlers are basically lone wolf opportunists. Loadout is absolutely critical since you need to be fast and still hit hard. Lights can harass and pick off isolated mechs, your job is to either get close to the enemy via cover, or lurk and wait for their advance to pass you. Use targeting info to pick out which mechs are weakened and where, and drop the hammer on them. You're not a harasser, don't commit to an attack unless you're confident you can cripple or kill your target. Don't hide behind the blob because you WILL get spotted as an easy kill by lurm shitters. If you can survive to end game intact you can usually lay waste to enemy heavies/assaults that have been damaged by the big fight.

Hunchie 4G is a little different. You can do the lone wolf strategy, but you can also play it like a StuG with legs and make life hard for the enemy advance.
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>>127633510
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=115&l=be47274a5c14456e3896779ee9cea1863d0df921

From metamechs, is this still accurate? or is there a better model and loadout for brawling?

>>127635120
Furious Feline?
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>>127636191
>Furious Feline?
He means the Madcat, which is called the Timber Wolf in-game.

Surprise, Clan 'mechs all have two names: their clan name, and the Inner Sphere designation for them since they didn't know the clan names while they were being invaded.

Examples:
Summoner = Thor
Hellbringer = Loki
Nova = Black Hawk
Dire Wolf = Daishi
Timber Wolf = Madcat
Maddog = Vulture

There's a few people in kong that refuse to call them by their trueborn names. The more you know.
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>>127636390
Don't the IS have their own models of the Vulture and Mad Cat? I'm not super with the lore, but I'm guessing they're basically ripoffs with the same designation?
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>>127591192
Delicious
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>>127636574
No.
But the Bushwacker in lore had some issues that were solved by reverse engineering of a Clan Mad Dog.
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>>127636574
There is something similar between the two in IS called the Avatar
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Anyone Wana join me in kong mumble and play robots?
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>>127617339
Holy shit is that old. I'm still purple bird.
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>>127635563
>Medium brawlers are basically lone wolf opportunists
>lone wolf opportunists
This is so unbelievably wrong it's painful. Running off from the group is so deadly in this game because remaining undetected while still getting enough information on the enemy team to see and take advantage of opportunities almost never happens. Maybe you can Deus Ex: HR your way behind enemy lines in the underhive when scrubs don't notice the 3rd person drone but literally any time you are gathering information on the enemy team to find an opportunity, the enemy team can and probably does know where you are.

Medium mech brawlers provide thug power. Gang up on people. Your atlas batchalling an onion? Who fuckin cares, 2v1 that faggot, more armor left on the atlas.
Deathballs mash together? Almost fucking chaos? This is where you shine. You should have been in the middle of your blob, once they mix for real, dive right the fuck in, the safest way out is through. If their big beefy brawling front line actually start to try and focus you down, they have to turn and give their ass to YOUR big beefy front line. Now just be the biggest dick possible. Shoot some faggots in the ass, get some 2nd line faggots attention and force him to commit to killing you, go after some lurm shitter firing into the blob and ruin his day.
Focus firing does win games but you can get away with not doing it if you fuck with the other teams attempts.
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>>127639710
>someone actually understands the art of playing mediums

neat
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>>127639710
That's the slippery slope you have to try and navigate, and that's why I said speed and loadout is critical. You keep the death ball at arm's reach, but stay close enough you can do a hit-and run on mechs with a weakness like red torso armour or an exposed leg, or fall back to the mob if things start looking pear shaped. Don't actually stick your head out and gather data, because yeah you will either get lurmed or swarmed by lights, just siphon targeting data off your allies, I just cycle targets like mad to keep track of what is where and what their damage is like. Fuck the 3PP drone.

Your tactic is totally valid and I've kicked wholesale ass using the meme Shaq 2k build in that exact situation, but I've noticed that most of the time assault pilots are cowards and simply won't break cover to capitalize on you distracting the enemy, and you can't fuck off as quickly as a light so it's game over for you. I love Mining Collective (wait, hear me out) because it's the most likely map to result in a clusterfuck brawl, but a lot of others like Caustic Anus are just turtle-thons
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>>127639710
Also continuing from >>127640978 when I talk about 'opportunities' I mean exactly like your example of ganging up with an Atlas to bully whoever he's fighting. If it's obvious the enemy mechs has their attention planted on a friendly heavy/assault, fuck yeah I'm gonna leap in and kneecap the bastard with a shotgun blast of SRM's.
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=84&l=a940cf444787f66af24118ca029d7704daabf489

How good is this Quickdraw load out? Trying to decide on a mech and I'm not sure if I want some sort of ranged heavy, or to go in as a light (probably a Firestarter) and just learn how to use them and probably get murdered while doing so.
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>>127640978
>simply won't break cover
Did you read what I said? Outside the underhive if you dive the enemy team when your assaults aren't ALREADY out of cover you are dead.

Staying out of LOS and relying on target info means you'll at best know where half the enemy team is at one time, you jump a ridge to fuck some dipshit that peaked and gotta almost cored and there's a Daishi that's never been targeted that just happens to be looking withing 60 degrees of your direction, RIP. Opportunistic trading isn't a medium mech thing. It's an every mech thing. If you can stick your dick out around the corner for a second and get more done than what is done to you, do it. If you can gang up on someone, do it. Mediums just tend to be able to wag their dicks around faster and safer and jump faggots faster and from farther.

Medium mech brawlers are about using a distraction to BE a BIGGER distraction. If the deathballs smash together and you come from the side because you were lucky enough to not be noticed, you either sit and wait/look for an opportunity or you go to work on some shit's ass, alerting him to your presence, but the rest of the enemy team will still be focused on the point of contact, still have most of their firing line pointed at yours.

If you come from the front, dive in, ALL the back line guys pointed at your atlas fist fighting with their krab KNOW you're here to cause shit. They have maybe 5 seconds to realize you're diving, all target you and vaporize you. Five seconds of live or die. If they don't notice what you're doing and end you in those five second, you're in amongst them. Within 150 meters, 80-90 kph is enough speed to force people to slow down and start turning around to kept targeting you. If the deathballs smash together and five seconds later half of the other team is spinning around trying to put down one shitbird because he deliberately crossed infront of their crosshairs at point blank before running behind them, you win, right there.
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>>127641606
That is the standard quickdraw build. It's reasonably good.
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>>127617339
If your not on this list you are neo shit tier kong

This thread exists solely for the entertainment of dudebot
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Omnimech heroes and new variants when?

The summoner could become really good if they just released the SMN-F and SMN-M variants.

Then you'd be able to equip 6x energy 1x missile or 5x energy 1x ballistic 1x missile on a summoner.
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>>127644881
Timber Wolf will be the first one to have a Hero variant, already confirmed through a Town Hall. Their excuse is that they have a giant back-log of mechs that need textures, updates, and changes.
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>>127642840
I've played this approach and it's not to my liking. I prefer long-game strategies rather than rushing in and maybe enabling my team to win with a critical distraction, because yeah it's probably an underhive issue, but frankly you just can't rely on players to have your back unless you do group queue drops, which has its own trials and tribulations of metabuild blowhards and whale pods.

That's not to say you aren't using completely valid tacics, like I said before. Frankly our approaches are very similar, I'm just slightly more cautious. If the enemy deathball is destracted I WILL go to work on someone's ass, I'll just take ten seconds to see if there's someone I can buttfuck and then withdraw before the enemy notices too much. My hunchie build runs five tonnes of ammo and I frequently run the cannon dry.
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>>127636574
There is no specific copy of the Vulture. The Spheroid copy of the Mad Cat is the Rakshasa. Since the origin of the Mad Cat name was the fact that it looked like a cross between a Catapult and a Marauder, the Rakshasa is also built upon a General Motors Marauder chassis (but is understandably worse overall).

Very late into the timeline, the Invader Clans get kicked out of their homeworlds due to numerous shenanigans and will fully settle into the Inner Sphere. Some of the more pragmatic Clans have a tendency to trade and sell mechs with the five Houses, so there is a lot of tech trickling down into every military force.
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>>127645441
Oh, silly me. As another anon pointed out, the Avatar is a heavier copy of the Vulture. Even has the same legs.
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>>127616103
>oh and Vass sounds like a fag in the podcasts

Thanks for listening. I wish we made more of them.
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>>127647681

Maybe we'll make some more now that Kaelus doesn't control what Kong talks about.
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>>127635240

Fuck is it with golds and outdated hardware?
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Even steam scrubs know the game's fucked up. He was met with 3 pages of white knights defending PGI and their shit decisions.
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So how exactly should I be playing Firestarters? Escort, poke, wubs up their ass?
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>>127649841
>water cooled 210
And you know the stupid fuck probably bought that separately, because if you can seriously buy a 210 that's factory water cooled I'm going to kill myself.
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>>127649412
i love that meme
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>>127649412
>Laser and Kaelus are the only people that made the effort to make the podcast
>complains that they control it

Everyone else is lazy.
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>>127657343
facts don't belong here, i'm gonna have to ask you to leave if you can't properly meme and shitpost

fucking truthers
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hello?
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>>127661575
DELETE THIS
FUCKING RETARD
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>>127661629
Nice post Kakos
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>>127663727
Literally who
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Ayy
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Ok you niggers I still have 20,000 mech credits from my horrible decision to be a founder for this game and after all these years some friends of mine want to play it.

What the fuck do I spend 20,000 jewgold on in MWO
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>>127668782
>What the fuck do I spend 20,000 jewgold on in MWO

More regrets
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>>127668782
Some mechs
Loads of mechbays
Premium time, activate from website so it only consumes 30 days per activation
Maybe some faggot horns, especially the Lunch Truck one
A few mech mastery packs or heroes are acceptable, examine mechbay and smurfy first
Never ever buy C-bills for MC
Try not to buy permanent camo patterns, the value vs expense is too low
Loads of mechbays
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>>127669085
Well yes that of course

>>127669375
thanks. mechbay and smurfy have recommended mastery packs?
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>>127668782
Mech mastery bundles are a good value if you like the mechs avail. The Blackjack one is decent, as are Thunderbolts.

Other than that, warhorns, one shot camo (pick one you like for a mech, never change it), mechbays.
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