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Comfy edition.

Previous Thread: >>127364284

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-The Game
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/391540/
>http://undertale.com/

-The Game's Demo
>http://undertale.com/demo.htm

-Booru
>http://under.booru.org/

-Recommended Games
>http://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebin
>http://pastebin.com/UCr5qFpc

-Steam Group
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/undertalegen

-Flockdraw
>flockmod.com/undertale

-Cytube
>Channel: Undertale

-Shimeji Directory
>http://pastebin.com/YFEGhgxY

IRC Channel:
#undertalegeneral on Rizon
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REMOVE SNOWDRAKE
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Reminder that OBAMA will KILL all the GOATS in Undertale if he ever finds out!!
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SHIT ON THE FLOOR
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Im down for some comfy
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>AUshit of an AU with already shit designs
Carroty.
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i love you, anon

have a good day!
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>>127377270
Good, thanks Obama
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>>127377351
Thank you anon, I love you too! <3
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>>127377270
Oh good, you're still here. I thought the agents came and took you away!
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xth for protecting and SAVEing the partner.
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>>127377278

What comfy music are you all listening to tonight?
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>>127377275

Coolio.
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>>127377275
It's a shame that episode was terrible, the song was great.
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>>127377347

>all the "bad guy" monsters are White

>all the "good ones" are black / brown

>Asriel is black because of his mom but still has somehow blonde hair (which is genetically impossible) to indicate that he's evil because of his dad

Tumblr is so deep...so deep.
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australian monsters
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>>127377443
>saving

You can't save something that isn't in need of saving anon.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide
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>>127377347
>undertale humanizations have them black
>underfell humanizations have them white and blonde
tumblr.
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>>127377520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6YKhgcol2I
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTpAkrhlXC4
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I want to do dirty things with Mettaton.
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>you will never be a mugger who shoots retarded anons in the head as they try to act out their power fantasies to protect their undertale waifus/husbandos
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>>127377275
God dammit. Every fucking time.
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>>127377520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1CjxQXXA7o

Still chilling with Nier,only game OST I would consider on par if not better then Undertales
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I Need more Muffet. My Muffet Folder just has this image.
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>>127376517
Underrated post. Wish I had fantasy to be fanny like this.
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My brother's name IRL is Asriel. He tried to name the fallen child his own name but of course he can't. I promised not to tell him any spoilers, what do?
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>>127377443

Chara prequaltale when?

She had determination but still chose the most bullshit way to save the udnerground. WE need to fix that.
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>>127377634
>not in the legs
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>>127377562
Anon, monsters can't shit, much less shitpost.
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Fell in love with a goat
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>>127377532
Thankfully they made the space tv episode, so schwifty doesnt have to be the worst of the series
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Reminder that Chara was an edgy murderous asshole and your headcanon is just made up mental gymnastics to avoid the truth
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>>127377698
Tell him that to name himself Az
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>>127377698

Dress him up and then fuck him.
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>>127377672
I think that's the only image of her bro sorry
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>>127377672

=o=
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>>127377757
>I fell in love once and almost completely
>He's in love with the world
>But all this horns can be so misleading!
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>>127377809
Chara never murdered anyone but themself
Chara is still quite edgy though.
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>>127377818
He's 10 you sicko
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>>127377443
Chara deserves to be saved
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>>127377557
>>127377596
Artist is Korean and a skelefucker though. They probably don't care.
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>>127377757

i kno rite?

Fucking seriously.

I'm so mentally fucked up but whatever. It kinda feels nice.

Love that can't be reciprocated.
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>>127377809

But anon, i do think Chara is a cute little executioner.
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>>127377594

Finland is the best country, once again.
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>>127377926
Jack Whitefur
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>>127377757
Same here, familia
what do you do to ease the pain?
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>>127377520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTU-jTmWr-k
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I'm >>127324906
Completed the game. It was decent. Combat was fun.
It felt like worse Persona. In Persona, I actually felt motivated to try and get on good side of demons to get their cards. In undertale, I didn't care about monsters. Fat skele was ok and because of him I spared his brother. At least undertale had interactions that had impact on story.
The explanation of acronym's was pretty nicely handled. Though, I did not feel bad. It was like, 'yep, it sums me up pretty rightfully...from MONSTER'S perspective'. But for fuck's sake, I'm human and I'm type that won't go first out of his way to look for peacefull resolve. Both sides were assholes.
Skele bros becoming underground leaders. Flower getting wrecked, MC going out. Dead monsters staying dead. Seemed like decent ending. I wish, I could've punched researcher.
The game tried to take narration of MC being badguy and mosnter's protecting themselves, good idea, but why was it portrayed as bad thing? I guess, 'pacifist' run or w/e is called, is protrayed as 'good' ending. There are games with better narration as you being completely mad bad guy.
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>>127378082

Not him, but i write.

It helps.
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>>127377698
My IRL name is Papyrus, it's a common name here.
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>>127377203
There was one good fight in the entire game. Sans. That's it. Every other fight or encounter as I should say is dreadfully boring.

The reward for Genocide is experiencing the new story content and combat the game has to offer. I don't see how that is in any way a punishment.
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>>127377940

Dont forget lube then.
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>>127378082
Post about all the lovely things we'd do together, all day all night.

also draw
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>>127377943
Non-canon

you know what is canon though? Chara killing everyone who ever loved her during a genocide run

>but that was the player!

She still murdered Asgore and Flowey/Asriel with her own hands and stops you from resetting to save everyone unless you bribe her with your soul
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>>127378197
Papyrus will allow you to name Chara like him though
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>>127378197
Yeah my name is Flowey, I was pissed when it wouldn't let me put my name in
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>>127378271
But she didn't murder Asgore, did she? That was Asriel.
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>>127377520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OagFIQMs1tw
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>>127378163
you know if we wanted reviews of undertale we would go on the steam page you bepis.
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Undyne going to a bank to deposit some money!
Undyne hearing shots as a group of robbers run in and tell everybody to get down on the ground!
Undyne handing over her cellphone before getting a pistol whip to the head!
Undyne reaching for her concealed carry, carefully aiming for a robber who's not looking
Undyne seeing him fall on the ground, before realizing his body armor took the hit for him!
Undyne being torn apart by submachine gun fire, gun clattering on the ground!
Alphys breaking down at the news later that day, becoming a useless wreck!
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>>127378382
anon you lil shit you know exactly what he means
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>>127378382
She stabs the shit out of him for like 999999999999 damage, though yeah Flowey deals the final blow I guess
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>>127377520
https://youtu.be/GOvhCJLjL2Q
Comfy enough for you all?
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>>127378082
creative outlets, like writing a concept album about it which is really hard because my music is instrumental
although, to be honest, I don't think anything can take his place
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>>127378345
Please don't make joke.
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>>127377672
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>>127377269
http://strawpoll.me/6444506
Let's find out how the public feels about this.
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I FUCK THE MUSIC I MAKE IT CUM
I FUCK THE MUSIC WITH MY SERPENTINE TONGUE
What did he mean by this?
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Hey guys, anywhere I can read about Undertale's story and lore without playing the game?

I dislike the play style, but the story is really nice.
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>>127378430
???
?????????
?????????????????????????++??
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>>127377520
https://youtu.be/knYccT7VGIE
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>>127378197
Post photos of yourself eating canned peaches.
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>>127378271
Of course Chara kills Sans, Asgore and Flowey.
By the point when you're LV19 Chara has completely turned into a demon.
And it's all thanks to the player's effort.
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>>127378430
>Alarm sounds
>"Hey, what did I tell you about killing civilians? This job just got a LOT harder!"
>SWAT arrives
>Tears the ass out of the robbers as they try to cross
>HEIST FAILED - faglord420 died
>Criminal Mastermind progress has been reset
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>>127378583
the game is the story, the story is the game
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>>127378583
Watching a let's play seems like the easiest way. Try Joel https://youtu.be/K007dTYLsko
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>>127378548

Only one true answer.
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>>127378430
You know what I don't like about these /hmg/ posters? They don't get Undyne's character at all. If you guys are going to shit on her, at least try to write her well, will ya?
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>>127378548
>no 'be forcefed his mother's oozing body until he suffocates and dies' option
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>>127378583
Just watch it. Like >>127378750 said, Joel's a good one.
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>>127377520
https://youtu.be/6Qy1w5cfaNc
Reposting because someone here listens to LUM other than me, right?..
>>127378575
GET THAT CALL
CAN'T HOLD SHIT DOWN
FUCK IT ALL
I'M GOING DOWN
I USE ME UP
AIN'T WORTH SHIT NOW
TRUTH BE TOLD
FUCK FUCK ME OUT

I'm only two paragraphs into this but I'm already surprised at how not-bad this is turning out.
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Heya guys. I made a thing two threads back and got mostly positive responses.

I've so far gotten this chart down to only 2 major problems that people see.

Notably Alphys being True Neutral and Mettaton being Lawful evil. My reasons for such as are follows:

Alphys in general is a very passive character. You cant even kill her in Genocide. She indirectly gets in your way a lot, then directly "helps" you get out of those road blocks (even though she put you in there in the first place.)

She's not entirely self serving which disbarred me from placing her in Chaotic. She more or less does what Asgore asks of her, even with horrible results. Though I couldn't really put her in lawful either, because she never told Asgore about her progress, she never told anyone. She was incredibly internal and couldn't bring herself to move forward or go backwards. She was stuck mentally.

She could end up being your friend later, but her apologies for "doing disgusting things to you" come incredibly late into her story arc, AFTER you've already killed Asgore at least once. YOU'RE LATE, BITCH.

Anyway. True Neutral isn't EXACTLY perfect, but I couldn't exactly put her anywhere else. The other option was to just not use her at all and put Frisk in True Neutral, but that's boring.

>Mettaton
Digesting his actions, words, and ending, it becomes very apparent that he is incredibly self serving for the sake of a kind of Personal Kingdom.

His ending is essentially him enslaving the entire underground, with or without Papyrus/+Sans, who become his assistants, and tell you that people who deny Mettaton's empire disappear.

I am not convinced by his whole speech about "destroying humanity." His entire motivation for fighting you was for ratings. If you're a murderer, he just wants an audience: If you kill the monsters, he'll just take up the humans instead. He literally doesn't care.

"Who cares if some people have to die? THAT'S SHOWBUSINESS!"

Thoughts?
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>>127378813
>/hmg/ posters
Is this a new buzzword or something?
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I think I'm the only one who wants to boop his snoot, and tickle his feetsies, and hug his tum tum
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>>127378993
Shit chart, very very shit!!
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>>127378750
>>127378926

Thanks, I'll do that.
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>>127378813
I'm pretty sure that was a GTA online joke, anon.
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>>127379174
Th-Thanks for sharing your opinion.
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>>127378993
I hate seeing Asgore not on the side of good, but he belongs there. The alignment chart was never meant to be a perfect method of category, but I think you got them in the best places they could be. Well done
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>>127378664
Bloody wankas cant even stealth a small bank.
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>>127378423
I'm sorry, so I'm not allowed to leave my impression of the game in its general? No wonder generals are called circlejerks.
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>>127378993
DnD alignment charts are always shit because that's not how morality works in the real world
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So how come the goats have fangs?
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>>127379152

You have 0 situational awareness huh?

Where the fuck do you think you are.
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>>127378993
isn't the whole "trying to kill you" thing just a ruse?
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>>127376803
>>127376571
>>127377282
Yall niggas are gonna make me die of heart problems.

>>127377443
>>127377943
Partner is for being spared of suffering.
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>>127378993
Toriel and Sans should be switched, maybe switch Flowey and Chara? Other than that, looks pretty good
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>>127379152

Not really, theres tons of people as lewd as you in this joint.
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>>127379280
it makes them extra kissable
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>>127379280
They are never called goats in game.
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>>127379309
Why switch Flowey and Chara?
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>>127379152
I'd do all of those things, but I'd also cuddle up to his adult self, falling into his soft fluffage
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I just did a neutral then pacifist ending and am reading about the genocide ending. How is Chara reincarnated I don't get it
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>>127379280

Same reason they have paws instead of hooves.

They're fantasy creatures.
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>>127379385
Well. they look like goats. Then what are they exactly? Some hybrid?
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>>127379280
Because they're not goats, they're goat monsters.
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>>127379280

Because they are monsters and not actual animals, you dunce.
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>>127379291
Well, it is, until he decides that he'd prefer to just kill you, take your soul and become a superstar on the surface.
He learns his lesson after you beat his ass at a dance-off, though.
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>>127379480
monsters
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>>127379487
They're more like horned Mimiga.
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>>127379424
Not this anon. I think Chara has a purpose, and Flowey does it for lolz.
>>127379385
Frisk asks Gerson at the end of the TP if Asgore is a goat.
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>>127378993
Stop using D&D 3.5 terms when you don't understand what those terms mean.

Lawful - In general, you believe the good of the whole comes before the good of the individual
Chaotic - In general, you believe the good of the individual comes before the good of the whole
Good - In general, you believe the good of others comes before the good of yourself
Evil - In general, you believe the good of yourself comes before the good of others

And for all of the above, it has to be enough that you're actively harming the latter to benefit the former. Average looking out for himself isn't evil, it's when he's knowingly and actively harming others that he becomes evil.

Asgore is lawful good by definition. If you disagree with this, you don't understand D&D morality.
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>>127379480
boss monsters, did you not play the game
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Friendly reminder that any "vs." arguments are pointless as the sense of power scale in Undertale is completely retarded and has no internal consistency.
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>>127379424
because, in a way, you as the player affect chara's actions. In pacifist, they never show up, but they do in genocide, making you able to influence them, to an extent. Flowey just does whatever the hell he wants because he's bored. If that's not the definition of chaotic, I don't know what is.
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>>127379649
Wouldn't Asgore be more lawful neutral because he compromises his own morals while a lawful good person wouldn't do that?
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>>127379689
can someone explain to me what the story is of the left image
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Post Spider. no pusspuss
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>>127379297

Chara never getting to apologize to the only family who never loved her!
Chara always feeling regret for being a huge dork who got her brother killed!
Chara wanting to change but it's too late because she's dead!
Chara..

Chara..

Chara wanting to be SAVED.
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>>127379480
They are boss monsters.
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>>127379689
Power levels are bullshit.
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Why does this show up every time I quit?

Anyone else get it?

It's like HL2 all over again
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>>127379689

Shut up and ruin this general with pointless arguing like everyone else.
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when sans calls you a dirty brother killer, he isn't talking about frisk killing papyrus (well maybe he is )

he's talking about chara killing asriel
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>>127379794
facebook meme
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>>127379480
They're just boss monsters, but I always headcannoned them as being a cross between goats and rabbits

again though, they're just a fictional species
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>>127378993
what did chara even do that was wrong? Wasnt frisk controlling their actions all along? i mean you could step off the genocide path at any time without Chara stopping you.
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>>127379893
But Chara only kills Asriel after Sans is dead.
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>>127379893
but chara is a human and asriel is a monster
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>>127379941
>what did chara even do that was wrong?
Destroyed the world
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>>127379941
Yeah, Frisk was controlling Chara to suicide-pact with Asriel and kill all humans
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>>127379246
Thank you very much for the kind words.

Do you think there's anyway I can improve the chart? Something direct that still directly mentions the DnD system?

>>127379649
I'm aware of those. His "good"ness is impacted by the direct fact that he knows that the humans aren't necessarily evil.

Besides, he constantly breaks his own morals and does what he knows is "bad stuff" to eventually reach his result: Helping the Underground.

He cared very greatly for his people and the underground, but his methods were terrible. So terrible that he broke your Mercy button so you could never spare him.

I think he belongs in Neutral.

Lawful because he fights solely for his kingdom.

Neutral because he's incredibly aware of what he's doing is reprehensible, but knows it's the only way, so bites his tongue and does it anyway.

I'm aware of the system, else I wouldn't use it anyway.

>>127379941
Not Chara us, or Chara the person who fell into the ground. Chara, the demon who comes when their name is called.

Destroyer of games, yo.
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>>127379893
There would be more credit to that argument if he said it every run, but he only says it to you on runs where you kill Papyrus.
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>>127379807
Okay.
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>>127379780
>>127380062
Alignments are generalizations. A lawful good character and end up in a position where they're influenced into compromising their personal morals while still staying lawful good. This is the crux of the "lawful vs. good" conflict, where a lawful good character is forced to choose between a lawful but nongood course of action and a good but nonlawful course of action. Asgore isn't lawful neutral, he's lawful good but conflicted.

Remember too, not all lawful good characters are paladins.
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the only thing i can do to ease this pain is write about snuggling the goat and giving the goat weed for the first time
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>>127379820
This went dark quite fast.

>>127379842
MTT Brand joke.
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>>127379926

Floof the bunny-sons tail!
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>>127379807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms2klX-puUU
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>>127379941
Chara did some fucked up things but people vastly overstate Chara's evilness. They only become a world destroying demon because of your influence.
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>>127379794
/tv/ meme having to do with Brendan Fraser's alimony payment.
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>>127380062
Compromising he morals makes him Lawful. The fact that he does it for the benefit of other makes him Good. Dont worry about it anon, Like i said its not perfect. No one is going to accept your chart, Im sorry to say. DnD did away with the morality system anyway so I think you should save your creativity to maybe some more productive efforts. I look forward to seeing what you can come up with.
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>>127377632

Mettaton is a dom though
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>>127379941
You sound like those people who ask the question of why the monsters don't just leave through the hole Frisk fell down in.
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>>127379820
They wouldn't want to be saved.

They'd be happier if they were, but they wouldn't want it.
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>>127380163
Sounds like a fun read
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Still requesting Burgerpants, Mettaton Ex, Monster Kid
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>>127380229
>They only become a world destroying demon because of your influence.

You could just as well say

>They only failed to destroy the world because of your merciful influence

Stop assuming things about the character.
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>>127377634

At least you're an edgy greentexter
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>>127380315
>>127380124
What about the fact that he could have just taken one soul then left? Wouldn't that effect his morality in a way?
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>>127380178
oh hello again
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>>127380175
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Would you fuk Rule 63 Edgegoat
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>>127380376
is this the original
who is the guy that draws these anyway
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>>127380001
chara kills asriel in 201X

sans dies much later
>>127380002
adoptive
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I beat the game after 2 plays as a true pacifist but now I cant play again because ill reset and take away everyones happiness


i dont want to do a genocide, I just want to play some more cuase its fun
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>>127380178
>>127380567
You, uh
forgot to remove your name, son

nice try though
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>>127380657
don't respond
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>>127380124
A good idea of what a Lawful Good character would be Superman or Captain America or something.

Both characters where something happened in their canon to make them enemies of the states at least once. Does that make them Chaotic? No, the issues lied with the state, not them.

Being lawful is not necessarily the character agreeing without compromise with the majority, it's just maintaining stability. Enforcing older laws that worked instead of maintaining new ones that cause instability. Fixing a broken system for example.

If the laws change around that character and they eventually attack those laws, that doesn't make them Chaotic.

>>127380315
What do you suggest other than Morality charts?

Say what you want about its imperfections, but it's still a good system to get responses and opinions from.
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>>127380649
some guy from /fit/ does one every new year
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>>127380650
Chara doesn't kill Asriel in 201X though. Asriel commits suicide by human in an attempt to stop Chara's plan. If Asriel let Chara do their thing, he'd been fine.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diOhwvRYlsU
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This thread is terrible. Fix it.
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Has someone ordered a fresh fish? No? Well, I'll just leave it there, then.
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>>127377672
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>>127380003
but there was nothing left for chara in that world since you killed all the monsters, Chara hated humanity but they loved all the monsters or atleast the dreemurr family. and cmon, if someone killed all of humanity wouldnt you feel like just ending the entire world right then and there?
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>>127380229
>people vastly overstate Chara's evilness
That was fun.
Let's finish the job.
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>>127380175
I wanna touch his paw pads.
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>>127380631
I'd ask him to turn back into a boy again so his boobs don't get in the way of our cuddling
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>>127380361
Not him but

>wiiu drawing
Go back to FA homo
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>>127380807
Fix you say?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t1fZQvueaM&feature=iv&src_vid=c4ckxE0rISw&annotation_id=annotation_3743572451
This just happened and I'm still pissed
(Regardless me killing Sans right after)
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>>127380807

Dont make me shove a peach in your mouth you fidgety fuck.
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>>127380851
Stuff like this goes into my Fusion Folder.
Thanks anyway.
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>>127380946

>Wii U

Flockdraw, bitch tits

Try again
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>>127380445
i'm having a hard time keeping sans in character

he's like 30 in my headcanon so writing him getting stoned with frisk nightly seems weird
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>>127380554
And then what? He'd still need 6 more souls to break the barrier, so either he kills 6 humans on the surface, which makes it more likely that humans get pissed off, or he just abandons his people underground without returning.

A lot of people are understating how much Asgore did to mitigate his actions:
- Only killed humans who were fucked anyway, since none of them could have left without killing a boss monster and stealing their soul
- Knew very well he could've left the barrier and murdered humans whenever, but didn't
- Ordered research into soul power in the hopes of breaking down the barrier without having to kill more humans

Asgore did what he believed to be the least evil course of action while still benefiting his people.

>>127380737
Alignments are generalizations. Not all lawful good characters are going to act the same as paragons like Superman. By the same logic he isn't lawful neutral either because he doesn't act like Dredd.
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>>127379608
True has asks him that, but gerson changes the subject and they're monsters anyway, not actual animals.

Snails are just snails though, or else they would turn to dust when you eat them.
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>>127378993
>The other option was to just not use her at all and put Frisk in True Neutral, but that's boring.
It's not only boring but in True Pacifist and Genocide runs it's flat out wrong, Frisk would be Neutral Good and Chaotic Evil in those, respectively.

I like your chart even though Asgore really is a good guy who chose to do what's right as a king over doing what's right as a person.
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>>127380807
>>127380950
Let's try that again.

Let's fix this thread.
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>>127380490
its my headcanon that Chara is just a lost child with way too much power(the resets) and that they have the capability to do good if someone just became their freind and believed in them!
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>>127380970
God, finally surviving that attack after dying to it well after 20 times was so damn satisfying
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>>127381027
Just make Frisk like 30
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>>127380631
Yeah probably.
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>>127381091
Fix.
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>>127380795
>chara dies
>chara possesses asriel
>chara forces asriel to provoke the humans
>asriel resists chara and doesn't kill anyone cause he's a good gote
>asriel dies

his death is 110% chara's fault. and it's not even accidental or something. Chara took asriel's body and used it to start a war with humans, and lost. daily reminder to execute chara.
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>>127380829
Thanks, it's for me.
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>>127380781
that hugbox
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>>127381027

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chVi7TMOPbo
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I made one as well shortly after completing the game. Though I'm afraid I didn't manage to work in Muffet or Mettaton.
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>>127381183

>execute chara

you wouldn't even meet chara unless you were just as evil as her you psychotic fuck
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>>127381170
Broken
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>>127381183
>chara dies
>chara possesses asriel
>chara provokes the humans
>asriel stops chara from fighting
>asriel dies

It was entirely on Asriel's hands. Chara is a little shithead, but its his fault he died.
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>>127380904
Its Flowey that says that you big bada-dumb
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>>127380490
Chara presumably 'comes along' with Frisk in Pacifict play throughs, I kinda like to think that does pacify them in way, but I know that's just a headcanon.
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>>127381170
I don't know what you're doing but I think you are trying your best! You can do a little bit better though, we can fix this thread!

This thread just needs some...COOL DUDES!
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>>127381272
I don't know how I feel about Toriel being Lawful Neutral, whats your logic here?
Seems to me she defined 100% by her morals to the point she ditched her people to uphold them
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>>127381272
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Asgore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lawfulgood
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>>127381272
I was going to put Undyne in my list back where I put Asgore: Lawful Neutral.

In my opinion, she is a paragon of that role, as she serves her monarch without question. Doing good when she can, and when she's asked to kill, she does so without mercy. She is not evil, but she is determined and uncorruptable. No amount of conversation or begging will tear her from her target.

Also I consider Toriel to be Chaotic, as she left her kingdom when it needed her most. She's also a good character.

Sans as Chaotic Neutral is rather... off to me.

>Asriel Twice

Nah
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>>127377976
>korean
ケック
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>>127380781
Well post the rest son
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>>127381421
Cool Dude is here!
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>>127381408

chara is long dead you idiot

chara was the 1st human in and is dead

you can see their coffin before the throne

frisk is the 7th human to come down fuckin mnany many many many years later
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>>127381371
>red text
>Flowey
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>>127381127
frisk and az are mid 20s

im setting it like, frisk and sans have been smoking since frisk graduated high school but they left az out of it and they're bringing him into the tradition
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>>127381371
>red text
>flowey

anon please
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>>127381421
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>>127380829
That's some good fish anon, thanks.
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Asgore sacrificed his own morals to protect his people.

Toriel sacrificed her people to protect her morals (meaning that she shirked her duty to the throne and make sure Asgore's decisions werent retarded).

Discuss
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>>127381091
>>127380807
I want to read something in which Asriel meets Papyrus and tells him something nice, reminiscing their weird relationship when he was a flower.
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>>127381421
do you think even the worst person can change...?
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>>127381589
He meant as a ghost, it's part of the charrator headcannon
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>>127381713
I agree
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>>127381276
genocide to draw chara out

kill chara

reset

happily ever after

>>127381294
yeah that'd hold up in court
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>>127381646
Oh, that's not so weird then

just make it so Frisk has never smoked out of anything more than a pipe, and Sans whips out a gravity bong or dabs
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>>127381694
That Undyne has the eyepatch on the wrong eye tho.
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>>127381713
He also sacrificed six kids, for the cause of genocide, no less
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>>127381276
I completely agree with you. Alot of fanfics say that Chara posesses Frisk for the genocide route but if thats the case, why would they even care about selling the world back to them for one human soul? that would be like forcing someone to send their kid away to an orphanage and then selling it back to them for a wad of dosh.
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>>127381801
Why would it need to hold up in court? Chara went to get the souls, Asriel stopped them from being able to fight back once the fighting began, Asriel died because of it. If he did nothing, he'd have lived. Its his fault he died.
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>5 pages of what was going to be a small fic about cucking
>now its turning into psychological manipulation and torture porn

welp
im going to grillbys
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Post hot fish

Please
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>>127381713
Yes.
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>>127381847
*to protect AND free his people
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>>127381931
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>>127381905
who is the cucker/cuckee?

I only like fics where asgore gets cucked by Asriel
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>>127381849
I can only come up with one theory about this.
Chara is either:
1) Lonely, Same as asriel. Where he tells he wants you to keep resetting so he won't be alone.
2) Wanting to make you suffer cause you are a terrible human and chara hates humans
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>>127381820
sans and frisk have a dickbong that they try to get asriel to smoke out of after they've hit the pipe for like an hour
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>>127381905
no you're not, you're going to hell, you fiend.
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>>127381836
Yeah, shame the artist didn't notice that.
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>>127381905
It better not be what I think it is
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>>127381057
True. I was thinking of putting Chara at Chaotic Evil and Frisk at Neutral Good, but Neutral good was taken by Sans.

I couldn't bring myself to call sans Chaotic. He may never do his job, but that's only because of the promise he made to Toriel. He has a standard to uphold, after all.
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>>127381931
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>>127381736
Of course I do! You can do better! All you need to do is try! And I believe in you! And if you need help, I will guide you. After all, I am very great!

Through my guidance I'm sure you will also be very great! Not as great as me of course, but still!
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Does anyone think Toriel is kind of a cunt?

She finds you and immediately says she'll raise you and love you, but the second you go against her word (as simple as not going up stairs and just wanting to hang around your new mom while she seals the door) she knocks the shit out of you?

What kind of horrific domestic abuse is that? And god damn, her husband. He decided to not leave the barrier, kill a ton of humans, and come back to free his people so they could commit genocide, and instead decided "Hey, lets just try to live in peace here and make what we can out of it." And because of that, Toriel went apeshit and now wont talk to him

holy god fuck that goat cunt
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>>127382062
I worry about you, anon

yet I need to read this
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So, Papfriends and Charafriends are arguing which one should be posted to save the thread.
But don't worry, brave anons!
I found a solution!
Posting both!
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>>127381931
Anon, you didn't get the memo, did you?
Fish is not for sexual, you perv
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>>127381664
"Lets finish the job" was said by flowy i think, anyone got a screencap or something as i am beginning to question myself.
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>>127381895
he could have prevented his death, that doesn't mean it's his fault


any reasonable person would blame chara
>>127381963
threadly reminder that asgore was just pussying out and everything he did was just to maintain morale, nothing more
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If monsters don't have weewees and stuff. Would you trick Toriel into reducing your "swelling"
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Holy shit I just realized.

In the genocide ending, Chara kills and betrays Asriel AGAIN
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>>127382138
Pajama Sam?
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>>127382145
I guess I can try
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>>127382171
Is it still Furry if you sexualize a fish?
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>>127381589
Frisk sees Chara's memories at various points in the game, pretty sure there's a reason for that.
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But remember that Undyne spearheads a rebellion against Toriel if you fail to befriend her before Asgore. That's a very Chaotic Good thing to do there.

When Asgore declared war on the humans, Toriel packed up and left because she would not concent to being part of murder. She follows her own code of good, rather than the laws of the Kingdom of Monsters.

Sans is... not really motivated to give a shit about you. He's supposed to be on watch for humans but he doesn't care. He's only forced to act when you are feet from Asgore's throne room and even then his appearance is half-assed by his own admission.
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>>127382041
sorry
its skeletons
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>>127379280
They're Turians in fursuits.
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>>127382285
First time they did it though.
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>>127382203
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>>127382342
L-like both of them?
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Morality is complex and people do things for more then one reason
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>>127382285
Other way around kiddo.
Asriel and Chara came up with the plan together. But Asriel didn't stick to the plan, so Asriel betrayed Chara.
Genocide is Chara getting revenge.
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>>127382314
I... guess so? I was told yesterday that it was called "scalies", and it was a branch of furry, but then, another anon told me those were monstergirls and not furry at all
Honestly, I couldn't give less fucks.
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