Winter sale edition
Previuos Thread >>126124984
>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370
>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://www.pd2skills.com/
>Skilltree Guide (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png (embed) (embed)
>Perk Deck Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png (embed) (embed)
>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png (embed) (embed)
>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt (embed) (embed)
>Big Oil Engine Calculator:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2
>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620
>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair
>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn (embed) (embed)
>Daily Dose
http://fewes.se/pd2g/
is this the end?
>>126237132
You fuck up the OP every single time
daily dose should be http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
>>126237887
>is this the end?
Last thread died at 172 replies, so yes. What the fuck is there to talk about?
>>126238419
Would you fug Sokol?
rip /pdg/.
you won't be missed.
let's talk about what overkill will do next
GET DA FUCK UP
>See thread dying
>Don't give a fuck and don't bump it
Feels good
>>126241845
1) Be greedy
2) Be incompetent
3) Be insulting
i haven't played in a very long time, is there still a dlc unlocker? do they ban for it now?
>>126242534
No but you get a cute red cheater mark forever
>>126242693
thats it? it doesnt do anything?
>>126243097
You are going to be always host because you are going to be automatically kicked from every game, face it, no one ever turns off that
>>126243304
i actually disable the auto kick cheaters from my lobby becaues they are the people that know what they are doing instead of the fucking kids that go NOOO dont pick up the code bar in hotline miami y like to smell my own farts
>>126243783
That doesn't make sense
You OK brah?
>>126243304
im too lazy to take it off.
>>126243979
like we use to bump the threadsYEAH
>>126245347
for fire starter guys please keep this thread bumped i was the last op and you guys did a shit job
>>126247891
See >>126242054
You fags arent even in the steam group
Should I buy Jiro and Chivalry/Overkill DLC or one of the heist DLC (Bomb, Alesso, GGC)? I have like one and a half steambux.
>>126249457
The char and weapons DLC
So my planned build for when I get my sunglasses.
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/eSPkHIEFgBDa:gECa:fQKMJEGCDa:ia:pO8::w36-6-3-5:s32-34-15-43-3-5-38:a3
Mostly plan to play on ovk. I know crook is shit for DW but besides that is there anything that needs changing?
>>126251882
>Modding the Mosconi
>FLECHETTE AMMO ON BOTH SHOTGUNS
>1 fucking infamy
Not even looking at the rest and I can tell that is shit, shitter
>>126242349
>people still shitting on Overkill after more or less redeeming themselves
??
>>126253554
Just because they didn't something right, doesn't mean they didn't fuck us all.
>>126256182
did*
27th for Sociopath LBV being the most underrated build of the game.
Also SwedishCuck > Krinkov.
>tfw getting cuffed by a random guard while ecm rushing jewelry store normal,
>>126258232
>>126258397
god I miss the old handcuff animation
>there are people in this thread who are not slapping ammo total bonuses on all their sniper rifles,
Daily reminder that the snipers already have max accuracy and stability is a myth on this category of weapons.
>>126258724
>+2 total ammo
It's like like a whole new experience. What a time to be alive.
>>126258724
>use ammo boost instead of accuracy
>snipers already have max accuracy is a myth
>>126258724
>is a myth
They USED to have max accuracy, that's slightly off from being a myth.
>>126259016
>he doesn't know about the hidden stats in this game,
>>126259016
When ARs got nerfed, snipers were too. Standing still while scoping no longer is perfect center of screen accuracy.
Are Erection day warehouse and The Diamond heist the best heists to farm cops ? I'm looking for the 200 kills with lmg achievement..
>>126260260
Santa's workshop is good for farming cops. The map is relatively small, and you can make 100 bags while you're at it.
>>126260260
The Diamond is actually a very good cop farming map because of the endless rappel spawns by the first timelock door (just watch out for cloakers if you have bots on).
You could double a long-ass achievement to go along with it.
e.g. infinite heists, Dr. Miserable, cooking 7 bags of meth, slaughterhouse cables, OVERDRILL, etc.
You easily break 200 kills in that timeframe. Though I think you have to finish the heist and leave to get the achievement, I forget.
So I got a weapon boost from a card.. Can't figure out how the fuck I use it. How the fuck do I use it?
>>126261129
Some boosts apply to specific weapons. They're just basically their own weapon mod category.
If your gun doesn't have a BOOST section in its mods, it can't use it, if you got a boost but your gun doesn't have it, the boost is for a different weapon.
Hey guys, can't do the weapon skin customization with Goonmod. I try to apply materials, colors, patterns, combinations of the two or all three and nothing. What might be the problem?
>>126261741
You dumbass, YOU BUY THEM, use Gagecoins and change the prize to 0
That way you can buy all the shit that you don't have and buy more of the ones that you haveCan't buy shit that you haven't unlocked until you unlock it, but it only applies to achievement related masks, materials, patterns and weapon mods
>>126264026
You absolute fuckwit, it was because I didn't have the extra stuff installed in mod_overrides.
I have it figured out now. This is fun.
best way to grind exp?? thats how you get infamy right?
>>126264771
Best way to get XP?
Heisting
So uh. You don't get a cheater tag for custom HUDs do you?
>>126264607
yeah, i had this all fucked up for a while. now happy fun times
>>126265394
Nahh son, things like hox and poco are all kosher
>>126265429
I like it. I've been doing custom character-based builds for the gang, and making weapons to boot. Ultra-heavy Techforcer with CAR-4 and a Glock for Chains, light-fast aggressiveOverkill-onlybuild with AK andMP7for Sokol and things like that. It's kind of my only way to have fun anymore.
>>126265394
Why would you get tagged for it?
>>126264771
Rats PrOVK/Pro DW
FWB OVERDRILL
Infinite bag heists / achievements like the 100 bag Santa's Workshop
HB is alright
FWB DW is alright if you speed stealth it
Do whatever you find fun on PrOVK/DW, it should net you plenty of exp as long as you don't fail it and collect all the loot bags. Loots bags give more exp so try to get them all.
Special exception at lv 0: DW Jew Store gives the most exp at lv 0.
is infamy level 1 always those glasses?
>>126266961
Yes.
Yes, you have to start from that point but you're free after this to rush for other infamy points if you prefer to get the balaclava or baneposting mask first instead of the skill point reductions.
>>126265394
No, you don't get shit from Overkill, only from hipster players.
>>126267210
It's like you're stupid or something. You can't skip the skill point reductions before you chase other infamy points. Center and at least one skill point reduction infamy is mandatory.
>>126268229
sell it
>>126268336
As said before, I got this, I just fucked up my spoiler tag because 4 AM 2 days before Christmas like a good lad
>>126268229
>>126268373
Ctrl+S highlighted text to spoiler if you're too stupid to spell the spoiler tags.
>>126268906
(you)
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mda:eqopkHIjEFgbDa:tda:gKhIECDa:fqroKmJEGCda:ibcdea:pR8::w36-6-3-5:s49-2:a1
Opinions?
Do you think I can get Grinder instead of Rogue for DW and bring something actually useful for my crew instead of fak?
>>126269736
If you actually wanted to be useful you would get something like inspire
>>126269736
You already have like a 20% base dodge just with your suit and sneaky bastard, you should really pick grinder for maximizing your defense considering how the rogue bonus is rng based and not that reliable.
Also try to move some points in the ammo bags. Masterfug players can't go on this territory because of their build so try to make yourself more unique.
>>126269964
Yeah, I didn't take the ammo bags since I have to take fak with Rogue.
>>126261741
Did you put the mod_overrides folder in, too? Cos there's more than one.
http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=14855
FUCKING FINNALY SOMEONE MADE THIS
Why didn't Overkill allow us to drop drills through weekly/monthly jobs?
Are they that jewish?
Do they think it would break the "economy" or something?
>>126270048
Then you can remove your four points on the saw because it will be more of an handicap on your SB/LB build and that's not even talking of the lack of ammo to open all the deposit safes on a H&T run
>>126271709
People would just write up a lua that "finishes" weekly and monthly jobs instantly.
And if OVK sucks at coding, let them redeem it multiple times at once.
They had Valve come in and help them implement that shit so most of the mechanics and drop rarity are all dictated by Valve.
>>126271709
Apart from the fact it would lower the prices of the drills too much for them, the devs consider they've done enough for the community by making they droppable and making the stat boosts free for everyone, killing the prices of the stat boost skins until they find a stattrak feature or something to make them feel unique again.
>>126271709
>drill 0,50€
>>126270578
>mfw gonna have another year for a crimefest reward that add an infamous filter into the game.
>>126272176
>implying OVK will ever add the Infamous filter
So is there anything viable that's actually faster than OVERDRILL and Rats Pro DW in terms of money earned over time?
Assuming a fast and efficient run, OVERDRILL would get ~$50 million in payout for 1 hour of shooting. Rats Pro DW, about $28 mil for 35 minutes of shooting. That'd be an approximate $50 million / hr of heisting pay.
Most of the other loud DWs take like 20-25 minutes for a $15 mil payout which isn't as optimal. Cook Off OVK pays at about $20mil-$30mil / hr, so Cook Off DW is only going to be like 10%-15% better than that, nowhere near the $50mil/hr mark.
I just want to fill up my safehouse vault but if only OVERDRILL and Rats are my only options, that'd translate to 50 *successful* hours of OVERDRILLing or cooking meth which is pretty bad if you ask me. Also it relies on finding that many extra people to do OVERDRILLs with.
The only other option I can think of would be ECM rushing SR DW ($8 mil per 5 minutes, near $100 mil / hr) but nobody does that shit anymore after 2 months of spamming that shit after Infuckupy 2.0 came out in March. Also same problem with OVERDRILL, requires extra people who probably don't want to put up with so many hours of ECM rushing. I know I wouldn't.
>>126273010
What about mallcrasher with saw is that still a thing?
>>126273249
It's still a thing yes but it's not the most optimal.
8 ATMs * $300k = $2.4 mil each on DW (+ Jewelry) for 3-5 minutes doesn't match up to $50 mil an hour. If the chopper actually shows up within 3 minutes of starting consistently, sure, but that is not the case.
>>126273867
I forgot about Dead Pres but it's still not good enough.
8 ATMs * $390k = $3.12 mil on DW + Jewelry per run. You need to average like 17 runs under 4 minutes per run per hour to match it (including finishing and re-buying the contract) but that chopper loves to take its time.
Payday 2 mod idea:
Pub gets auto-kicked for Joker'ing your hostage(s).
>>126273010
A friend of mine is bitching about making money to me and I dont quite know what we could do, if he would git gud we might do more RATS.
He is like an addkid who wants it now, and thus some days ago he forced me to stealth bank gold 3 times in a row.
>>126275226
>Pub gets auto-kicked for Joker'ing your hostage(s).
Found the shitter.
>>126276090
>Kicking shitters for wasting hostages with Joker is bad
No Anon, you are the shitter.
>>126275226
>8 ATMs * $390k = $3.12 mil on DW
Wrong, Overkill put a cap of 2,8 millions on the loose money on this job. If you try to take more, it doesn't count.
>>126276262
Why is there a cap on loose cash? I don't understand. What possible valid reason could there be?
>>126276343
Maybe it's old protection against hackers spawning money, maybe Overkill doesn't want people to get too much money on a simple four minutes job but that would go in total contradiction with their recent decisions to make mallcrasher a farming money job or maybe they're just clueless about anything in this game.
>>126273010
Aftershock DW is like 19 millions for 11-13 minutes of gameplay but open-maps are not that popular considering how the cops have almost perfect accuracy.
there's a mod now to get 6 people in one game. when will the cheating end
>>126277064
>fun mods,
>cheating,
pick one and only one.
>>126276982
Ahh right. I got $25 mil from my last successful run on Aftershock DW. That actually sounds better than Overdrilling or Rats.
I guess I'll have to learn to solo carry pubs on that map. My only gripe with that map is that the train cars are the only cover while sawing the trucks open and cops basically just spawn next to them and shoot into the cars. It's annoying.
>>126276174
>not constantly spamming F all the time
LMAO SHITTER
>>126279501
>dom more cops
>pubs joker more cops because the previous ones are already dead
>nothing changes
???
>>126260260
I killed over 1000 cops last night when we did the 100 bags achievement for the reindeer mask.
Hello heisters!
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Keep The Party Going (bring the Nightclub DJ to the escape)
- Speedlock Holmes (tag the right truck and leave in 60 seconds)
One of them is labeled internally as slakt_1 and one of them is slakt_4. Don't know which is which.
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
>>126281360
i think keep the party going is newer than speedlock holmes so slakt 1 might be speedlock
>>126281360
>caring about side jobs ever,
Shit, this is not like GTA online where people are literally begging for money or xp, here their usefulness is really limited, especially for veteran players who have no point doing them, except maybe farming Led Combo mods for future meta builds.
At least, it ain't a failure like the monthly jobs where people can get their "special rewards" from just playing a normal heist.
>tfw playing "Three way Deal" on Rats day one,
>>126282850
>not Home Invasion
anime skins when ?
>>126279501
HANDS UP
PUT YOUR MOTHERFUCKING HAND UP
HANDS UP
PUT YOUR MOTHERFUCKING HAND UP
>he uses the JP36,
>>126284959
Who?
OH WHAT FUN IT IS TO RIDE IN A PIMPED-OUT GETAWAY
>>126286785
daily reminder to not act dumb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCeBoH3zdl4
>>126284959
Literally no one does that.
>>126287405
What an EPIC track. Thank you based Reddit.
>>126282850
>>126282993
>not playing with Home Invasion on day 1 then Three Way Deal on day 2 just to finish with Stone Cold on day 3 with Double Cross on Escapes
Are we back yet?
>>126290239
>tfw no heists under the rain like in P:TH
Even the snow effects are almost unnoticeable.
>>126291452
Nope, ded game, ded hector, ded M308/deagle meta.
>december 2015,
>still no art of chains answering a pager, talking about big spiders with the giant one of Lab Rat just behind him.
2tricky4me.
>still no shotgun silencer with 0 concealment loss,
>still no ergo grip for the JP36,
>still no drum mags for Assault Rifles,
Gage Courier mod 02 when ?
HEY YOU GET ON YOUR FEET
>>126295795
ON THE GOD DAMN GROUND
>all those spawns of special units at the beginning of Lab Rats,
Ovk confirmed for being unfun.
>>126295987
>Blackdozer traveling with a headless dozer.
Shit like that is Cloaker levels of "Fuck you, you lose".
>>126295987
Lab Rats is a shit heist.
yeh
rrerr
>>126264771
Find a buddy and speedstealth Bomb:Docks/FF norm+pro/Election Day norm+pro
Bomb Docks 8 minutes
FF 8-10 minutes
Election day 4 minutes
>Have gotten two stat boost mods.
>Game didn't tell me which guns they're for when they dropped.
Well I guess I can find out easily what guns they aren't for.
>>126298817
GOONMOD
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>tfw trying to fix bots teleporting on Birth of Sky
Only the first two bots are teleported, the third bot is left behind on the airplane. It's so fucking baffling. They had to have specifically made it only for two bots, it doesn't make sense.
>>126302702
They expect someone in the wreckage
>>126302702
>They had to have specifically made it only for two bots
Master of the obvious.
One.
>>126306182
Just one
Fellow heisters, i'm looking into the whole masterfug shebang, could you fellas sugest me a build?
>>126307532
Yeah.Just play Techforcer instead.
>>126307532
something like this http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mrSoLhIjEGcDa:eIFDa:tda:ghEgCda:froKhiEFGCda:ibcdea::w84-1:s9-3-21:a1 but i would think having a good drill is better than 10 dodge http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mRSoLhIjEGcDa:eIFDa:tJGDa:ghEgCda:fEGCda:ibcdea:::
>>126306181
But it doesn't make sense. If they set it specifically for two bots, then there must have been a conscious effort to keep people from using three. Otherwise, they would've just set it so all bots present are teleported. Why? Do they think three bots is cheating? BB and other mods that increase the total to three have been around for ages without incident, why start now?
>>126311672
maybe because in some maps if you are only with bots you have 2 bots instead of 3
>>126311672
>then there must have been a conscious effort to keep people from using three
Or they never cared enough about other people to support more than 2 bots. Remember, they're shit devs. They probably do "Teleport Bot1, Teleport Bot2" in every instance instead of "for $bot in botlist; do Teleport $bot; done" because they're lazy bums.
>>126311912
Birth of Sky is the first and only heist I've come across that causes problems for three bots.
>>126312072
I've been looking at the commit documenting the changes from before and after update 90 and I just can't find where the game is specifying two bots and only two bots, that's what is really annoying me. I'll keep working on it because people have been asking for that fix for a while, but the whole thing is a real head scratcher.
>>126308421It's my main skill build :^ )
poorfag here.. i only have enough for one 1.24 dlc
what should i get?
>>126319625
Which one you don't have
>>126319625DLC Unlocker
Hello heisters, new side jobs are out!
Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Mass Murderer (any_300_kills)
- Target Practice: Assault Rifle (assault_rifle_100_kills)
Keep those helmets flying! ;)
Jesus, the population here's really taken a nosedive since overkill went full retard
>>126327437
Of course. What did you expect would happen?
>>126319625
BBQ is the only DLC you need.
How do I change the language of the game?
>>126307532
Take anything you need as long as it has inspire aced, Sneaky bastard and low blow.
Also ex-presidents > rogue.
>>126334621
Steam -> right click Payday 2 -> Properties -> Language
>>126330778
Why?
>>126298817
Yeah, when getting a damage, concealment or accuracy boost, a lot of people get confused at first since some are specific to shotguns or bernetti/gruber but all the other apply to all the arsenal of the game so you get used quickly to the system.
So this can happen...I thought they were omniscient.
>>126337403
nostalgia?
>>126336305
Molotovs will save your life on Deathwish.
Dragon's Breath will make Overkill seem like a joke.
Flamethrower for the lulz and critz.
>>126336305
It's a pretty diverse pack.
All sorts of CC, like the flamethrower, molotovs, hell, they even give you a fucking grenade launcher on top of all that.
And an AA12 with Incendiary Rounds you can put on. Is there more you'll ever need?
>>126238393
It's pure fucking top dollar!
TOP DOLLAR!
>>126342252
>Is there more you'll ever need?
Buffing the dragan's breath shells would be a good start, the fact they're lowering your ammo pool, removing the headshot damage is really weak for DW.
>>126343386
>using shotguns unironically on deathwish...
>>126343386
>still bitching about lack of headshot damage on a CC ammo type
/gtag/ here. How's your Christmas gaming going, /pdg/?
>>126344173
I was doing the monthly and internet went off, I was doing the achievement on framing frames for the safe, mid of third day planting the coke and the PC froze.
No money no friends, life sucks buy me the helium canister asset.
>>126344173
All this money and nothing to spend it on...
>>126344173
wish i had your criminal mastermind challenge to have something to be proud about but things are fine. Think our devs secretly want to become the swedish rockstar so the future is not that bright.
Daily reminder to buy that spotter asset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvBfLuFdAAo
How can I solo with cloakers downing me?
>>126348434
By just keeping the friendly bots. Clockers in this game won't jump on you only if you're the last heister alive, the others in custody.
>>126348184
>>126348184
Jesus
>complextro style,
>there are people who aren't playing Go Bank, White Xmas and Santa's workshop and listening to Hoxton's christmas album to celebrate christmas,
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjnJk5V9nSM
>>126349094
Dont make me feel bad about being italian, anymore than I already do.
>>126349095
any news on his CSGO kits? Literally the only reason I bought that shitty game.
>>126350741
>CSGO
>shitty
u wot
>>126342053
Followed your advice. Fun as shit. Thanks anon
>doing hoxton breakout solo
>finally get the Dozer without expecting it
>get in as he gets out
>get downed because he hits me through the wall
THANKS OVERKILL
I like how they made it so you cant get bags through walls but they can hit you through walls.
>>126351386
>not stunning the dozer as soon as you spot him,
Whats best
>SMG
>Rifle
>Melee
>Pistol
>>126351704
>SMG,
Depends on your difficulty and dlc you own, the micro-uzi being the best choices for Overkill with its 40 damage while the Jacket's piece (modded for 46 damage) and Krinkov can be really useful for DW.
>Rifles,
For the Battle Rifles, M308 is an excellent choice, outclassing the DMR kits. For the snipers, the R93 is the most balanced.
>Melee,
Katana, pickaxe or buzzer, everything else is shit.
>Pistol,
Baby Deagle or Stryk 18c if you have gunslinger aced.
>>126351704
>melee
Buzzer has the most utility, especially if you're rolling Dominator. Aside from that I'd go with the shovel or razor bat for knockdown.
>>126352126
Who the fuck aces Gunslinger, we're not all masterfugs here. Just roll with vanilla Deagle, it'll take care of everything with basic GS (leaves some point over for Pistol Jebus).
Last night I got drunk and made some builds that I saved to my bookmarks with names and short notes. I'm going to share these with you, /pdg/, because they are nothing short of amazing.
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mda:eomhIjEFGbCDa:tJefgcDa:ghIEgCDa:froPMJeGCDa:ibcdea:pI8:::
>m,eeelee build
>bring a tiny gl40 named samson for shields bc iron man is for fags
Why Samson? I have no fucking idea. Apparently I was going to focus on melee entirely except for dealing with shields. Kinda reminds me of how I used to play Left 4 Dead.
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mGDa:eoLIjEFDa:tJeGbDa:ghECDa:fRKhieFGBCDa:ibcdea:pb8i8g8N8:::
>sniper grinder
>matke the nugg small + black, brung a judge dozerfucker"
As far as I can tell, built around the concept of making a Dodge/Grinder build running a Nagant. My favorite part is the perk page, where I was apparently too drunk to click the right perk set. I've tried this one out, and it's not actually that bad - I prefer it over my old techforcer so far.
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mGDa:eqokLHIjeFDa:tJGDa:ghEgCDa:froKheFGbCDa:ibcdea:pb8i8g8N8:::
>FORCE OFNATURE
>mosc small and play like a fucking scout
Because drunk me is an asshole and didn't fill out any weapon information, I can only assume "mosc small" means doing an ultra concealed build for the Mosconi. Which, considering that makes it look like the Force of Nature from TF2, makes the name and "play like a fucking scout" make more sense.
>>126353757
Drunk builds are gud builds
>>126350328
I wish I had a team of 4 to do Sewer Rats with since it's a weekly job.
>>126353170
>vanilla deagle,
Rules changed, it's not meta anymore. Baby deagle is on top now.
>>126352126
>M308 is an excellent choice, outclassing the DMR kits
Actually the amr16 can get higher damage, more ammo, and a larger mag, with max accuracy with the single fire mod.
How does a single shot Krinkov like this looks?
>damage 106,6 (thanks to silent killer)
>Accuracy 84
>Stability 72
Otherwise, 86, 80, 80 without the silencer.
>>126353757
Gave "m,eeelee" and "FORCE OFNATURE" a try.
Melee is what you'd expect from a melee build - short range, easily fucked by Snipers. Surprisingly viable outside of that, though, thanks to the meme machine that is Jiro's Katana and the GL40 being able to obliterate things that the Katana can't handle.
Copyright Infringement, on the other hand, is less impressive. If I was going to do anything to it, I'd swap out the Mosc for something better for general use (like the Raven with Flechettes), but I'm not sure how I'd tank Detection Risk hard enough to get away with that. Oh well, 2/3 isn't bad.
>>126258084
My nigger. I use Socio LBV on most indoor heists. Going fast, getting nearly the full benefit from the armor regeneration, and looking good as Jacket. I usually pack a sniper rifle and Jacket's Piece, but do most of the killing with the Katana.
>>126291543
It rains in Meltdown.
>>126358087
Just post the pd2skills build.
>silent killer
Automatically shit.
>>126360478
Everytime I see someone using sociopath he's laying on the ground
>>126358087
>caring about 106 damage,
The next big breakpoint for DW is 121 damage for killing grey units in one headshot, getting less than this is really little to no rewarding on the long run.
Damage are already fine enough like this, just focus on the other stats
>>126362119
Well they ain't using it right, then or they're using it on something like Forest which is dumb in any case.
>>126351704
SMG: who cares
Rifle: who cares
Melee: Buzzer
Pistol: BRONCO
Been trying out an Inspire-less build after being a career inspirefag for the past couple years and it's so fucking frustrating. I can't res pubs from stupid shit anymore, I can't move my bots past the SWAT turrets (because they die), and I just get this really strong, anti-social "Fuck everyone" attitude because the only thing I have to offer to the heist is killing all the cops and risking my neck to res an idiot manually doesn't feel like it's worth it 80% of the time. I'm getting horrible bouts of deja vu of the old days where I'd be the only one left and the host eventually ragequits after 60 seconds instead of waiting for the assault to end so I can hostage him back.
It feels so wrong. Like I've transcended what I thought was the maximum of hating pubs into a whole new tier of hate that I didn't think was possible.
I want to go back to inspiring but I also get the feeling that I've been clinging to Inspire like a crutch that's been keeping me going all these years and that going back to it is an admission that I'm shit. I think I'm in hell.Also Techforcing doesn't make Ex-Pres tolerable. Going back to Armorer and Muscle.
>>126365530
I kinda feel similar like that, but is rather how so few seems to inspire.
>>126365530
If you don't use inspire, you have to be a killing machine and always be the best killer in your crew.
I've been using an inspire-less build for a while now and it doesn't really bother me, I can carry DW with too much problem actually.
>>126366085
Yeah, I don't mind staying around shooting cops for hours if I actually get shit done (e.g. overdrill, meth cooking) and I'm used to just screaming at pubs non-stop as they trudge through the bullets so that I can get paid and get out, or running all the way across the map just to res the one idiot who decided he wanted to camp in some coverless corner instead of following the group.
Now I just sit on the side and shooting cops and wonder if/when the pubs will actually try to do objectives so we can move assuming that they're still alive. I'm basically alone on the map and so I ask myself what's the point of playing MP when I'm the only one left all the time.
Anyone wants to join a rats projob overkill? (see group's chat)
>>126365530
>I just get this really strong, anti-social "Fuck everyone" attitude because the only thing I have to offer to the heist is killing all the cops
That's funny, that's the exact feeling i have when playing with silent killer players. It's just so much of a waste, at least the masterfugs can pretend to be optimal.
I don't understand silent killer builds.
Do people actually waste 12 points for an extra 30% damage, or am I being meme'd on?
>>126366784
basic should be enough to let you one-shot tans on DW.
>>126366784
There's a small but loud faction of players who unironically believe in the "stealth in loud" school of thought where some stealth mechanics still come into play in a loud heist, like aggro'ing cops based on the noise you make from your guns and getting visually detected based on your detection rating. They believe that by avoiding cop attention with suppressors when they shoot cops, they can stay safe in their hole without worry about cops aiming at them while the rest of the team have to play as if they don't have a fourth person.
Having ghostfug "stelf" pubs with silent killer and suppressors in your heist is a genuine handicap.Also they spend 24 points to ace The Professional too, not just Silent Killer. muh armour penetration because headshotting tans is soooooooooooooooooo hard.
Mosconi a best.
>>126369016
It's the best SB/LB primary boomstick although the lack of ammo pool mod like with the joceline make the metafags run for the this one instead.
>>126369016
>That guy that mods his macaron
>>126367218
>like aggro'ing cops based on the noise you make from your guns
that's partially true though
see decision to shoot in long guide
>>126369895
I rarely run out of ammo with it actually.
I usually get ~90% accuracy with it and it's always one shot one kill, so I can still survive even if I'm low on ammo. I can always switch to my HE Judge anyway. I've always been fine as long as at least one person bring ammo bags.
The other option is to use Grinder instead of Rogue and bring ammo bags instead of fak, it works too.
>>126370459Sorry
It looks so much better without the sawed off barrel mod.
>>126370459
>he doesn't want to gull gangsta with it,
Daily reminder that chain's canon loadout is the mosconi with the blaster 9mm
>>126366784
It makes some of the faster-firing bruiser weapons (aka shotguns and sniper rifles) more viable. The Rattlesnake is a good example, as Aced Silent Killer pushes it into 200+, meaning it can bodyshot tans (and therefore make it much easier to get multiple kills from a single bullet). It also makes it easier to kill things in general, as headshots become less important.
Not saying that it's a GOOD idea, mind you - there are always better weapon setups that don't involve burning 12 points and slapping on a suppressor. It just is what it is.
>>126370459
>2015
>Wanting accuracy on a shotgun.
>>126366784
actually 24 points on the professional aced if they don't understand how to meta their weapons. They do believe that this skill help to kill ennemies faster even if the last rebalance update made almost every single weapons good.
Think it's safe to say it's a dead skill, just like memezerker aced
>>126372050
Berzerker isfun
>>126371960
Accuracy is important if you're using the AP Slug, anon!
>>126372050
>Not running yakuza deck + acedzerker techforcer
>Not going completely gorillas on specials while embracing the god of dead at x1.95/2.0 boost.
>gitgud
>>126371960
>>126373189
Having 0 accuracy on a shotgun is as retarded as having 100 accuracy though. Most people still want to hit stuff past ten meters.
>>126373840
Judge still has perfect center of screen accuracy when scoped.
What Primary shottie to run in DW?
Havn't done jackshit since crimefest, currently testing Steakout.
>>126375839
That weapon is shit
>>126367218
I have a build with it because if Im stealthing and shit goes loud then its just business time. Restarting is for faggots, man-mode through that shit. I wont ever have a build that isnt in some way combat viable.
>>126375839
Mosco if dodgefag.
Jocelyne for everything else.
>>126375839
>using a shotgun primary in DW
get out
>>126376146
Nobody cares what you do on Normal.
>>126376146
This. >>126376923
>>126376662
>>126375994
>mfw I'm still using Reinfeld with buckshot
>>126377421
literally a straight downgrade to loco
>>126377951
Yeah butthe legendary skin is stylish.
>>126377421
>using Reinfeld
>EVER
>>126377951
>>126378097
it's better than M1014 after rebalance (haven't compared them after rerebalance though), with underdog can one-shot grays. Plus, I'm running Infiltrator so I can afford not having much in terms of ammo.
>>126378331
How the fuck do you think of yourself as credit to team?
>>126378774
I do objectives while they sit on their asses.
>>126378930
ah... methcook logic.
>>126371810
>not mosconi mac 10 and lucille
for ultimate gagnster build
What's the most viable shotgun in DW for armorfags then? (inb4 gitgud embrace deagle culture durr hurr)
Also, prim or second?
tell me f a m, had average/good results with Judge/Jocelyn so far, but idk about the rest.
Running HE whenever possible, also average acc.
>>126381442
HE Judge to stun dozers/cloakers.
Otherwise use a real gun to do the killing. If you're not going for headshots you shouldn't be playing DW at all.
>>126381442
Macaroni.
Loco.
When are we supposed to get the next classic map?Never?
>>126385723
Whenever they think that we've forgotten about the fact that they originally were going to release FWB and Slaughterhouse as more paid DLC during Crimefest.
>>126383907
>>126385709
>>126382214
Zenks f am.
Guys, I want to buy the Sokol DLC just for the Grinder perk deck. Is it worth?
>>126388025
Yes, grinder is fun.
>>126388025
Grinder can be fun, but Muscle is still the most OP deck.
Is explosives build possible in this game?
>>126389671
For Overkill, sure, just know you'll be raising a few eyebrows.
>>126388025
>buy
>>126389671
if you're talking of GL40 builds, yeah, they're insanely great for techforcer or masterfugs.
Piglet a shit
>>126389630
>muscle is the most OP deck
>he still believes this
all the health in the world isn't gonna save ya from that cloaker kick, anon
so when you farm jew store do you do it on normal ? also all the perk decks give you the same chance of loot?
>>126391570
>he gets kicked by the cloakers
>>126388025
>insane health regen,
>health bonus so you can't get one shot by snipers if you have full health,
>armor penetration bonus because why the fuck not,
yeah, it's really OP at least
>>126393280
Difficulty does not affect card drop chances or quality.
So yes, normal jew stores.
All perk decks have the same infamous chance modifier when maxed.
>>126393280
the description of the sociopath perk deck has a different infamous bonus but it's really unclear if it's a good thing or not but other than that, all the other perk decks have the same boost.
>>126385723
when the sydney character's pack comes out ;) .
>>126373579
>not using armorer instead of yakuza.
hope the 20% speed bonus was worth it.
and there I was expecting a slow evening
>>126398576
>In my opinion Suits are just OP
>OVK focus to mutch on this Players
>I want to give Armor Players a Lobby
I'm a dodgefag and I think this guy's retarded.
>>126398576
What?
>>126398576
https://steamcommunity.com/id/ganja
>that profile
jesus christ
>>126398576
>1 member
As a heavy armor player with more than 500 hours and a public profile I would much rather heist anywhere but that lobby.
>>126385723YEAH
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