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Old thread >>124012829
Dominions is a fantasy turn-based strategy game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.
It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a strategy game.
>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya
>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795
>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki
>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf
>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/
>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551
>Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JMmSrpdE
>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod
>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is ded.
Conquest of Elysium 4:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/t3dkv8r7wucae1f/coe4_4.0_money_fastbattle_2res.7z
>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the pastebin
>Read the memes
>I want to play X
Heavy infantry nations with simple magic for noobs: MA Ulm, Abysia, LA Man
Human nations with a lot of diversity: T'ien Ch'i (any age), Arcoscephale (EA and LA), EA Ermor
Giant nations with a major bless: Niefelheim, Fomoria, Ashdod
Necromancy: C'tis, Sceleria, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Lemuria, Nazca
Sneaky Nations: Vanheim, TNN, Eriu, MA Man, Xibalba, Caelum
Edgy Nations: Lanka, Sauromatia, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Hinnom
Custom UI
https://mega.nz/#F!slcSECKR!3w21BNllKxxEZOXgC--41g
Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform
Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
>>124223250
h-hey thanks
really, though. If you've played a game, know who was in it, and know who won, submit it. It isn't hard for me to clear up duplicates, and there aren't many /domg/ games right now anyways.
>>124223603
No problem, I was reposting the custom UI and your post was one up from it.
>>124223250
>>124223603
List of all /domg/ games submitted:
GlamourAndFlyingFags
SmallGods
Mors Principium Est
AttackOfTheCrones
trueslothstories
noobonly
Gudclub
domgMAgame
Chalice Of Salt
RandingAndRaving
4ChanFlustercluck
AttackOfTheScrubs
ItsNeverEarlyToGoAI
Scrubland
NoModOrBuddha
Truescrub
LegendarySnailTales
Fartganos
WorldWarCrone
BigBlogClub
AINTRAND
WirelessWizards2
LuxInvicta
WorldWarEnd
KurgiOnMyWaywardSon
UnorthodoxScrublords
LetSliptheHogsOfWar
VidyaVici
EASports_dEAd_game_edition
FreakyCrones
Persia
Is 15 provinces in the first year a good expansion speed?
>>124225073
It's solid. It's considered good for newb games; vet players or early-game focused builds do better.
Time to shill for my game again http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/0/492379439668654437/ its a regular PBEM but with highest sites and very difficult research. oh and a blind banlist. We have 5/8-10 players signed up.
>more fucking earthquakes
So much for income and having mages.
Will levitation save people?
>>124193967
>>124195750
I might lose, but sitting around and letting you get an even larger advantage would make me lose for sure. At least I'll have an ally if I fight now.
>>124230358
No hard feelings I'd have done the same in your shoes.
Here's some food for thought. I counted the number of wins per nation from this file, and here are the results for non-disciples games.
EA Fomoria 8
EA Lanka 8
EA Ulm 6
EA Agartha 5
EA Caelum 4
EA Berytos 4
EA Xibalba 4
EA Vanheim 4
EA Pangaea 3
EA Marveni 3
EA Niefelheim 3
EA Mictlan 3
EA Yomi 2
EA Tien Chi 2
EA TNN 2
EA Ur 2
EA Arco 2
EA Ermor 2
EA C'tis 2
EA Therodos 1
EA Oceania 1
EA Pelagia 1
EA Abysia 1
EA Tien Chi 1
EA Atlantis 1
MA Ermor 10
MA Ulm 7
MA Agartha 5
MA R'lyeh 4
MA Sceleria 4
MA Pangaea 3
MA Asphodel 3
MA C'tis 3
MA Agartha 2
MA Jotunheim 2
MA Atlantis 2
MA Nazca 2
MA Vanarus 2
MA Vanheim 2
MA Machaka 1
MA Mictlan 1
MA Abysia 1
MA Ashdod 1
MA Pythium 1
MA Man 1
MA Eriu 1
MA Shinuyama 1
MA Pelagia 1
MA Tien Chi 1
LA Ragha 4
LA Bogarus 4
LA Midgard 3
LA Xibalba 2
LA Lemuria 2
LA C'tis 2
LA Patala 2
LA Atlantis 1
LA Arco 1
LA Pangaea 1
LA Ulm 1
LA Caelum 1
LA Tien Chi 1
LA Gath 1
LA Jomon 1
>>124229704
Considering that bats and birds are dying, no.
>>124230704
I'm surprised that Sauro hasn't won anything yet. They seem like a top-tier nation, great research, communions everywhere, death, some blood, powerful big mages and good archers in EA. What's their problem?
Actually, it's easier to post the table here.
>>124230704
Jesus tien chi never does good it looks like
>>124231585
>One nation has positive wins to losses ratio.
>>124231585
>>124231750
Therodos nerfs when
Looking at these graphs shows that LA is played half as much as MA and EA I wonder why
From our analysis of these stats we have a few incontestable conclusions:
1) Kill Ermor first. Always. No matter what it has, no matter what you have. If everyone start killing Ermor when they see it, the world will be a better place to live.
2) Same applies to Fomoria and Lanka.
3) People don't like to play LA for some reason. Create more LA games, you scrubs!
>>124232527
My war is now backed by statistics, with those on our side our cause must be just!
>tfw you main nations with 0 wins
>>124230704
>I counted the number of wins per nation
Why? The tabs on the document already count it all for you.
>>124233143
Because I'm an idiot.
>>124231826
>>124231750
Therodos is starting to look like a fantastic small-game nation. Can't be rushed if its the only water nation, good rushing/sacreds, popkill doesnt get a chance to be really dangerous
>>124231269
They're kind of a scrub trap, like giants. They have this huge beautiful toolbox that you want to use all of, but in truth you can't, you have to focus on what you want to do most instead.
They also have almost no diversity and that hurts them a lot too, no F so no flaming arrows, no A so no Wind guide, no W above 1 so very little in the way of water shit, no E so no fun E things or E buffs, what S they do have is very low too (S1 is their best outside of heroes), their communions usually end up killing off huge numbers of slaves since people tend to use Enaries as masters (a huge mistake outside of putting up battlefield buffs). Overall they look great on paper and in truth they are, but they tend to get played by scrubs who can't figure out how to play them from what I've seen.
Oh and you can't do blood well at all, their blood mages are expensive and unreliable or StR and expensive as hell.
Not sure why this guy staled, but he actually had one of the same commander hotkeys that I use (I started using it reflexively and only noticed when I got to the troops that those were different), so I'll be sticking with it for now.
>>124234520
Thanks. Glad you decided to sub in. He lost a battle to AI Agartha I think might have been the problem.
I assume he lost his pretender too, since the scales and bless lead me to believe he took something awake.
>Ermor wins more games than any other nations
>>124237692
speaking of ermor, pan didnt you say hes to your south? if youre planning on stomping him before he ruins the world then im fine with peace.
>>124239160
I've sent a message out next turn saying were my scout found their cap.
Japan, I have no idea how much I owe you, I know I paid you some, but not if it was enough.
>>124241328
dispel when?
>>124239786
cool. i think we can all band together and agree to not backstab each other until the Burden Of Time Nigger is wiped from the world.
Fuck you too, R'yleh. When's someone gonna make some sushi? Who do I have to pay?
Anyone remember who won Peanut and Butter? I know Atlantis won Jelly
>>124241468
tried this turn. lets see if 100 overcast is enough to work.
>>124242619
Agartha won the MA game, but I don't know which that was
>>124242787
That was Butter
>>124242770
Fine, it's not like my S4 would have a better chance at all, also your payment was enough.
Is there any item that negates fear? Testing out a 1v1 assassination battle and my 17 morale assassin is fleeing from an unconscious unit with a fear 9 aura that he would otherwise kill.
>>124246817
High fear just means more spread. Use morale boosters if your base morale is shit.
>>124247156
It's higher spread and higher intensity. This is trivially easy to test. The exact numbers are what everyone is ignorant about, but it is known that higher levels of fear are more likely to cause a rout
Why is Fire such shit? It's got some of the most widespread resistance items, gets countered absurdly hard by rain/storms, and has next to no boosters, and it's one non-crosspath one is ass.
>>124247156
>if your base morale is shit
Just said he has 17 morale, which is fairly high and already boosted.
>>124247347
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/the-fear-effect
Fear strength is boosted every 5 levels. So a Fear 10 unit would force checks against Morale 12. But unless you have absurdly high death magic it's not really an issue.
>>124247607
he could be taking forever to kill it. Over time fear drops moral, so if he takes 20 turns to kill it, he's going to fail unless it's mindless.
>>124247813
or 30 morale (not mindless, but only routs to HP/turn limit)
>four attacks
>easy to mass (apparently, considering how many I see)
Imagine if it was a sacred with F9W9.
>>124239786
>>124241556
Ermor is in #90. I'll see you guys there.
>>124247469; _ ;
>>124247469
Uh, yeah. Fire is shit. A lot of the 'weaker' nations are weak solely because fire is shit. If fire were strong, Abyssia and Marignon would be top tier nations. But it's not, so they aren't. I fucking hate fire, it's the worst path, Mokou a shit.
I know Midgard has been staling but I still want to gloat, since his army was fully scripted.my god followed his script like Bill Murray follows a script. at least he cast Flaming arrows though.
>>124248329
shit. forgot picture.
>>124248183
Fire is shit, but there's no need to be rude.
>>124247469
>>124248183
Fire isn't necessarily bad. It does what it's meant to do quite well in burning things in mass numbers. It just can't really effect fire resistant stuff at all.
>>124248329
Is this the midgard who was bragging earlier? That's rejakor. He just staled out of some desura games, too, and he really likes playing Midgard and (EA) Vanheim.
>>124248145
that's to my east, let's remove skeleton from map
>>124248569
no clue.
>>124248567
Except if anyone has any method of getting water in the air it becomes shit at that, too.
I guess it's got lightless lanterns and a nice shield going for it.
>>124247813
He routed third turn into the battle, second turn after reaching the target. Has been happening pretty consistently too in testing, the assassin just routs without ever getting hit a few turns in.
Jotun I gave you 12, gonna do my turn and go to sleep, if I happen to notice your turn isn't in near turn timer I'll extend up to a full 24, past that we'll see.
Well 100 gem overcast failed to work.
Fuck.
>>124250210
Fire Storm will still kill chaff just fine even if it can't light stuff on fire.
Asphodel - was your attack there on the assumption that Marignon was going to continue staling / go AI, or are you invading me?
I really do not like Peliwyr. There's too much terrain clustering.
Following players have 3+ reported FFA pbem wins:
Ben_sphynx; Caldius; dgently; fungalreason; Hegemony_McNickles; Johannes; Josh; Malakal; Massque; Onard; Red_Rob; Shatner; ssslock; sum1won; Zramble
Just started adding dom4mods games, (and /domg/ and other smaller communities) so expect to see some names proliferate
>>124247916
What unit is this?4 attacks per square isn't that great if it's size 4+
>>124254589
>considering how many I see
It's
>>124223171
>>124248562
>>124248567
hellfire bombs are the best though, also fuck da mokou haters
Remembr /DOMG/, the answer to the age old question of 'how do I make sure my ally wins in a war' is to be allied to both sides.
>>124247916
A fire bless is still only six fire damage if on a no-damage attack.
>>124257002
Enough to kill a human.
>>124255714
This. Sell to both sides and there'll always be a demand.
Who in Stalewarriors has high earth access? Need to discuss something.
>>124257976
I do.
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Wild_Hunt
Anyone have any specifics on this? Trying to insure all the globals have their flavour text recorded somewhere, and am sorta struggling with what some of them actually do.
>>124258091
Don't gotta be so sassy, mate.
>>124258116
The one line description is accurate, but you're right that it'd be nice to have the exact units that show up. If the Horned One pretender thing is killed, the global is also ended.
Would EA agartha be benefited by taking a W9 bless to make its olms paralyses faster? Does quickness affect the mind blast attacks
>>124258615
It does not, no. W9 doesn't affect ranged attacks.
>>124258371
I have up to 8 earth. Or I guess nine if I use copper arms for dual wielding staves of elemental mastery. What do you need to discuss?
>>124235251
the faith men had a green dragon leading them
>>124248567
In my last turn I watched an army of humans walk through firestorm for ~10 turns, and take effectively no casualties. NFI idea why, the infantry were in plate but the mages were naked (although ethereal, but it's fucking magical fire damage).
>>124258723
Hit me up at [email protected], need your access for a shitty pipe dream plan.
>>124259345
>>NFI idea why
>>NFI idea
>>NO FUCKING IDEA idea
>>NO FUCKING IDEA IDEA
>>124259434
Uh, no.
>>124259550
>discussing shitty pipe dream plans in public
What's the best generic SC chassis?
>>124259715
>not willing to talk about silly pipe dreams in public
Then send me an in-game message.
>>124258473
Did some more testing, editted it some more. Am particularly interested if the Horned One is always a N5E1, if it always has the same gear (an enchanted spear, a wall shaker, and a amulet of resilence), if it always has 5 earth gems and 1 nature gem, and if it's affected by dominion/blessings/etc? Does it work in Ctis territory? Will it get diseased?
>>124259910
Mate I was going to, but you ain't put up what nation you are and I figured it was a time-sensitive issue anyways.
>>124260129
You should know who in EA has deep earth anyway.
>>124259812
It depends. Golems are great if you have N9 and are much cheaper than virtually any other option. Elemental royalty can be good as well. Stuff like Seraphs and Chayots are incredibly strong, but you'll need Wish to get them (or pay even MORE pearls, but also get a supporting cast of angels). A Tartarian with the right paths can be good but gets hard countered by certain units/items.
>>124259345
Was that my troops?
If so, the reason would be that they all have native fire resistance.
>>124260175
There's maybe Van and Ur, but I haven't heard shit from them in the thread and it's a 1/40 chance, there's Agartha who I don't trust after utterdark shit, there's Kailasa who doesn't have what I'm looking for, there's Hinnom, Niefelheim, and Xibalba who all might have gotten deep earth from a lucky grigori / demon lord / hero, there's Theredos who's questionable and pretty small, and there's Marverni who could have just gotten unlucky from cap-only 1/16 StR mages.
>>124259223
Can whoever wrote the Marignon 'strategic overview' please create a new guide page, paste it in there, develop it further, fix the glaring issues, and/or hang themselves so that they can write a competent Helheim guide instead of the useless Marignon guide? People believing this garbage is why Marignon doesn't win any games.
>>124262190
>>124259223
sorry, didn't mean to reply to you.
>>124262190
whats wrong with the guide?
>>124262793
It got basic facts wrong (knights of the chalice are not cap only), it calls its heavy infantry / fire magic approach "strong," it contains no information or thoughts on mage recruitment (using cheap initiates for lab rats vs the expensive, but actually useful witch hunters which you want en masse for combat), no actual discussion of scales other than implying that they're nice to have, states explicitly that you want to recruit shieldless infantry without saying why or what to field them against, shit about paths being either underdeveloped or outright misleading...
>>124261386
I have earth 7
Is that deep enough for you, onii-chan?
The Space Pope!
>>124261386
>there's Agartha who I don't trust
;_;
Well, you shouldn't trust anyone though.
>>124261386
What do you need the earth magic for?
A cool artifact?
>>124254857
Hellfire is ok
>>124259345
Chaff is usually garbage like skeletons or bugs. Ulmite Infantry or Tower Guard isn't exactly chaff though.
>>124259473
have you never had an idea idea
it's the idea about how to get more ideas
>>124260749
KONBABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
not sure why it still didn't harm the robed mages, though.
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ErfSnekPlsGo
For a change of pace, how about a game that bans erf sneks(and nothing else)? Currently only four players have signed up, possibly because I've only posted this link once and haven't posted on Steam at all.
Also I haven't decided on the map, just put a shitty random map in as a placeholder. We could use something prettier.
>>124267553
>implying I won't purposely go for Erf Snek
>>124263143
Just replace it with this thing orion wrote. It has the usual desura problem of talking about the tools you have too much and not enough on how to actually use those tools, but it's not the worst of it's kind.
>>124263143
>>124267713
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/nation-guide-marignon-fiery-justice-compiled
Nevermind my stupidity, here is the link.
>>124267553
I'd join a game that required a snake pretender, but banned erfsneks. I don't think i'll join a game that only bans erfsneks.
>>124267539
I lost 5 so it was killing them, just not fast enough. Maybe a little unlucky, but it was only 1 damage and only 50% of the time.
I think some of them self-buffed with luck/twist fate so that probably helped too.
Is using an alchemist with alchemist stone to cast transmute fire for around 50 gold per gem worth it?
I can't really use fire gems in other stuff, and i don't think a Flame spirit is worth 1500g
>>124269504
Fire Snakes might be worth it (they're worse than really elite troops like Revelers that you could recruit with the alchemized gold, but better than many national troops), Lightless Lanterns are superb if you still need research and some items like Fire in the Jar might be worth it in certain situations (in this case having a lot of F1s, which can cast Phoenix Power with this free gem and become F2s)
>>124261386
I've got E6 at the moment and will probably get around E7-E8 in the (possibly near) future. HIt me up if you are interested or something.
>>124269504
Nearly always.
Unless your recruitables are absolutely useless, summoned mages are not better than 10 of them. Earth gems are extremely valuable for warfare, and occasionally fire ones are too. But summons? No. Summons are nearly never better than building more units with gold. If you can gems into gold in any good way, that's generally a good trade.
But if you are casting Summon Fire Elemental enough times that you need those fire gems for that? Fire elementals are pretty boss, so is Heat From Hell and Fire Storm, etc.
>>124270216
If i were you i would keep some gems just in case r'lyeh casted utterdark again. If he does and you don't have enough pearls, we will waste a turn again before dispelling. Even if the globals we casted the last turn were overcasted, there is a chance mother oak isn't overcasted enough and utterdarks goes in that place. Also any other meme global that r'lyeh casts.
I don't know, just keep an amount you think will be enough.
>>124270405
but i'm getting 28 fire gems per turn, I can't use enough combat spells to spend them all.also i'm not at war right now and my fire gem pool is at 60 at the moment
Would battlefield spells like Mist and Darkness stack?
>>124270630
I mention this specifically because with Fire magic you actually want to use the gem requiring stuff because evocs often won't cut it, but a bum rush of fire elementals will.
If you have a shit-ton though, just turn it into gold and then into mages. I forget how the scaling works though, maybe you're better off saving them up or something? Dunno, go look it up on desura.
>>124270731
thanks for the info, anon <3
>>124270546
Until Pan (and other people, but mostly Pan) withdraws his S gems I'm sitting on enough gems to drop any Utterdark overcast reasonably possible (probably like two of them), even if r'lyeh alchemizes all of his gems (and he's not) or gets a lot from outside sources.
Probably like twice.
I have just sent my turn.
How many armaggedons do you think he has left? 2-3? I'm too lazy to count the gem income he has or could have.
>>124272680
4-5, I'd bet.
>>124273109
is llamaserver okay? I sent my turn some time ago but it didn't send me the "turn received" email.
>>124275560
nevermind, it was outlook's fault.
>>124273109
Ay yo, just realized I lost W3 access in the Armageddon, any chance I can buy a robe of the sea off you?
>>124276509
I think i can get you one. Do you have nature gems?
by the way, do you have any air queen?
>>124276509
It's a bit dangerous to produce W3 items for me at the moment, my W casters are dropping like flies. So the prices are a bit high (25 gems - base price + chance of booster loss + overcharge). If bats can offer you W robe cheaper I don't mind it at all.
>>124276675
Yeah, I'll pay you 20 nature gems for it if you're good. And yeah, I don't think there are any left if that's why you're asking.
>>124223250
Added three games: two that I won and another one I was in somewhat recently.
I'll add more when I have access to my laptop which has more of my final game files on it.
>>124276938
If you'd prefer to pay in water gems I can also send you one for 20 gems, friendo.
Does friendly PD dying contribute to the HP rout limit?
>>124277964
It works like skeletons.
Fake units they don't cause routs.
>my research has been suffering because of me having to fight 5 guys
t. Orange (who's for some reason teal on the graphs)
>>124277753>>124277753
Sure mate, thanks for the offer. I'll send you the gems this turn.
>>124276675
Sorry, have to leave for class in a bit and don't want to come back to find the turn's gone through before I've made a deal.
>>124278053
Alright, I'll revise my turn and send it on.
>>124278034
I told you he was lying about pretty much everything.
>>124278159
I guess we have no choice but to destroy him.
>>124278034
>I've been wasting all of my limited gems on fighting off invaders
t. Orange
>>124279083
Ceterum censeo Aurantiaco esse delendam.
>>124279418
>I barely have any units left because of all the fighting, I'm forced to scrounge for every last unit to defend myself
t. Orange
Also it should be noted that Pink is helping Orange.
>>124279517
>I have barely a shekel left after all the fighting, please believe me, goy
t. Orange
>>124279614
>You're as big as I am, I barely have any provinces and didn't blob all over the place at all, why won't you believe me?
t. Orange
>>124259345
Firestorm does AP, not AN damage, so if you have tons of armour it won't hurt very much.
>>124270657
They should.
Storm plus Darkness usually results in 0 precision for everyone involved.
>>124279848
What about undead? They don't get affected by Darkness, right?
>>124279919
Undead, demons, anything with 100 dark vision.
>>124279919
Undead and demons always have 100% Darkvision even when it doesn't show on their stat page.
are ctis poison slingers any gud
>>124280389
Not really.
>>124278053
Sorry man, I had to go and couldn't answer you.
I'm glad you made a deal and you are happy with it.
>>124278053
Well, I kind of need the nature gems.
Can we have a deal if I send you this turn the Robe of the sea I have in my lab?
If therodos doesn't have one you would be getting a free turn (and I'm not going to use it right now anyway).
Does that sound fine for you?
>>124281115
>, I kind of need the nature gems.
He's going to cast GoH
>>124281348
nature's bounty
>>124281348
>>124281370
That's not me, I want to summon the 4 Balams and I have near to no nature gem income.
>>124248329
>>124248569
doesn't look like it is chain staling, but let me know if it is causing an issue for games
>>124281115
Don't want to make Theredos revise his turn again for me, but if you're down I could use some astral or death gems to grab summons as well. Also have shit earth income, so I wouldn't mind earth gems if you would prefer.
Got about 50 nature gems I'm willing to trade right now.
>>124282376
I understand it.
So, how about 40 earth gems and 10 death gems for your 50 nature gems?
holy shit its finally happening.
also, how the fuck is sceleria still around
>>124281396
Also, admin of TornVale, are you here?
If you AI'ed yourself, or you're not in the game, I can be the admin from now on. I intend to finish this game no matter what. I reckon, it's going to be a giant battle vs R'lyeh as it tries to reach land thrones.
>>124282596
Sounds good, I'll revise my turn.
>>124282703
Nice. I'm doing it right now too.
>>124282607
Pythium AI'ed himself shortly after you left.
It's a clusterfuck. I can't even count how many AIs are around me right now.
>>124281396
Nice one, though you make it look like everyone went AI because of your global, when it's not the case.Also hands off the thrones, before I go deep in your bony ass
>>124283239
I doubt you can do anything to stop me.
I mean, all I have to do is use Stygian Paths a few times.
But honestly, I don't even want to win (I dont even know how many thrones I need). I want everyone to go AI so I could expand my undead empire all over the world.
>>124283313
You got what, 8 points on 15 ? That's like, halfway there. I wish I could say that for myself.If it comes to that, I'll oppose my best men against the undead hordes. The ones who haven't deserted at the very least
Are there any good, detailed and 3d maps like Valanis?
>Fagmin still didn't take his turn.
>>124284440
Better spam 50 turns at him.
>>124284440
Up yours, I'm doing it.
Also, I messed up who ordered what from me.
ded
>realizes I'm playing assassins with skull talismans the game
Because anything less than 100 units patrolling apparently has 0 chances of finding them, and guard commander has 0 chances of showing up to fight.
>>124291406
>tfw your main mage defaults to Horde of Skeletons spamming
Bring on the assassins.
>>124291804
well that would be nice.
instead I get a 300 gold mage fresh recruit, ie no chance to set a script, who's default script can't handle 1 skeleton per turn.
Of course every game were I try this I get a 1/3 chance of hitting a mounted commander who charges up and kills the assassins, but the rng hates me whenever I play mictlan apparently.
>>124292040
>ie no chance to set a script
That doesn't matter. Assassination events ignore scripting.
If you have spare gems you can give some to your mages and hope they default to elemental summoning. It's pretty effective depending on what paths they have.
Goats: I took Northern Granmarch because Mictlan had a huge stack of jags there (I assume they took the province from you), and I didn't really want to chance them crossing behind my lines.
I'd like to pay you for it and Hookhill, the province north of it, as it links my territory together across those mountains. If you want it back though just go ahead and move some troops in, there's only 1 PD.
>27 morale assassin at full health fails a morale check against a fear 9 unit and routs
Well, that's nice I guess.
>>124292167
so scripting doesn't work, guard commander doesn't work, and patrolling with less than an entire army doesn't work.
I've been trying to resist going AI out of saltiness, but this isn't helping.
>>124293065
Guard commander does work, it just has a %-based chance to work. Same with patrolling.
>>124270405
Unit gem summons you mean.
>>124293061
High level fear is broken as shit.
I've had counterthugs rout after killing their target because fear aura lingers and overpowers their 20 morale easily.
Just letting you guys know, the /vg/ League has started. The current game is /vitagen/ vs /mgg/ and after that we'll be having /domg/ vs /utg/. If you want to watch, head over to the 4CC thread: >>124281532
>>124293065
Guard Commander works, as does putting up the PD/Patrolling with a shitton of slaves you free spawn. Give your mages some gems, some skull talismans, some skullfaces, lifelong protections, handfuls of acorns. The key to winning any duel is to bring friends.
>>124293193
>it just has a %-based chance to work.
It also depends on the quality of assassins. If you are fighting patient assassins without bodyguard bonus, you are fucked.
>>124293193
let me rephrase, guard commander with less than 20 troops has little effect.
So basically I can't have armies out because I need all of them to patrol my forts to stop the assassins, and I need to have half the army set to guard commander otherwise I'll lose the commander before the patrol goes off.
I wish I was exaggerating, but I'm not. It could be the rng fucking me, but that basically mean that if the rng doesn't like you there isn't a way to stop this, and I should just quit now because I've been trying all the techniques to stop assassins since the turn this started, and the rng has just said no.
>>124293496
>with less than 20 troops
It doesn't matter how many troops you have guarding commander, there's only one check and it allows for 4 bodyguards (unless items are involved)
Guarding with 2 and guarding with 40 is the same shit.
>>124293356
I've noticed how fucked up it is in testing this, had consistent routing against my test target at 17 morale until I swapped some items to up it to 21, but I would have never expected a rout at 27 fucking morale.
>>124293445
Fuck of, Boksi.
>>124293496
Stop being a whiny bitch, and read the fucking manual/do some fucking research.
Guarding with more than 5 troops, 10 if your commander has that ring of warning, is a waste against assassins. You'd know this if you did even cursory googling, you fuckwit.
The RNG ain't doing shit, you're just a fucking retard.
>>124293496
give your mages blood slaves, they'll usually spam imps.
>>124293731
I suspect it doesn't really matter how much morale you have (as long as it's below 30).
Fear keeps ticking morale checks, so if failure is possible sooner or later you -will- fail. This isn't as big an issue against large numbers of units because they won't be affected by the fear all at once and morale works in averages, but for a lone assassin a single failure means you're routing, so you get fucked pretty hard by fear unless you get really lucky with your morale checks.
>>124293643
so even more, if the rng says no, there is jack shit you can do about it.
I normally try to resist raging at randomness playing a part in game, but when there is an entire strategy whose counter depends on the rng being friendly the rage rises.
>>124294067
>whose counter depends on the rng being friendly the rage rises
The counter to assassins is to expect them being deployed by a very few nations that get them and come prepared.
>>124293872
>read
hits freshly bought mages. so no chance to give slaves
>>124293815
read the fucking posts.
I was wrong about how many to set to guard commander, but that was out of desperation because setting 5 to guard, patrolling, etc wasn't doing shit because yes the rng was fucking me.
I've had 30+ troops patrolling every places the assassins have been hitting, found nothing till I up it to 100.
Equiping items wasn't going to work, because the rng has them hitting the other mages, so I'd need to forge 10 items for every 1 he forges.
and lastly guard commander didn't fucking work, because they've shown up once in 20 assassination, despite having them on every important mage after the first turn of assassination, because the rng decided to fuck me.
I've done everything the manual and research says I should do, but every one of those depends on an rng going in my favor.
I'll stop bitching the minute someone suggests a counter that satisfies the following two conditions.
1) doesn't require a favorable rng result
2) doesn't require me to forge 10 items for every 1 that my opponent would forge.
I am honestly listening.
>>124294379
>be prepared
HOW?!
that's my fucking point. I've done all the things that everyone has or is saying to be prepared, and they all require the rng to not say 'fuck you'.
>>124294006
Finally, a use for slave collar.
>>124294067
There is fucking plenty you can do about it, or else every game would just be fucking Abysia shitrolling over everyone, with MA Marignon, EA Ermor, and LA Pythium being banned everywhere.
Patrol. Take an army. A big one. Full of slaves and cheap shit. Don't just recruit a bunch of your best units and upkeep your shit to death. Use that army to patrol. You'll probably need more than the two dozen units you're using right now. In fact, you know for a fact that you do. Because you've done that. So keep doing that. You fucking child.
Gear up your important mages. Handful of acorns. Skull talisman. Skullface. Anything that spawns units. You'll lose some, but eventually he'll hit your geared ones, and get buttfucked. maybe stop recruiting mages in the fucking province where he's assassinating everyone.
Bodyguards. Use a ring of warning. Use troops with the bodyguard ability.
Give your commander some amount of gems. They'll shit out elementals/skeletons/swarms/imps/etc.
Start a war with the person with the assassins, and be fucking agressive. Bring more fucking troops/commanders than he can assassinate. March on his capital, pillage everything.
You know, it also might help if you could fucking tell us what age mictlan, and what is assassinating everything, you fucking baby.
>>124294636
Mind hunt works, and assassins generally have 60 stealth so you have to have a patrolling force of 60 to have a 50% shot at finding them. 30 ain't gonna cut it.
>>124295046
>slave collar on counterthugs
Do you want to get charmed, senpai?
>>124294636
You need 50+ units patrolling in order to have a decent chance of catching an assassin, so just use the cheapest units you can get. Summon some wolves if you can, those are pretty efficient patrollers and don't have an upkeep.
The match is starting, bois.
>>124295558
Fuck off, Boksi.
How do you kill it, /domg/?
Hardmode: no instakill spells
>>124294748
>I've done all the things that everyone has or is saying to be prepared
You haven't done anything to an extent needed. So you are not prepared.
Mictlan shits cheap patrollers, most of your mages are going to default to summoning shit when given gems or slaves, you can easily produce items that guarantee you bodyguards in combat. Basically you've failed at the planning stage and are now blaming rng.
>>124295990
Just domkill it.
>>124295990
24 W9 thugs with rune smashers under mass flight.
>>124296235
Normal smashers I mean.
>>124295046
>what age of mictlan
like that would matter. and I did say what's doing the assassinating.
As for your solutions, look at them again and ask yourself, 'could the rng fuck that?'.
Or that your saying spend 5 times what the assassinating player is spending, and hope the rng doesn't fuck you.
or just look at the fact you are recommending mictlan forge skullfaces to counter skull talisman and realize that you aren't paying attention to what you are saying.
I've tried the exact same assassin strat, but the rng went the other way, and I lost. That's what's getting me. It's too fucking random unless the defending player can massively outspend the assassin player. Not too good, too random.
>>124296582
>like that would matter
Of course it fucking matters, dumb newfag.
>>124296582
If you can't deal with a bit of RNG, just go play checkers or something.
Just stop whining about being a bad player and blaming it on the RNG.
>>124296582
Trade for the items. Patrol with wolves. EA/LA has blood, summon some cheap shit.
As for your bitching, look at them again, and ask yourself, "maybe I'm just bad."
As a sidenote: rng is a specific term in dominions, and you're not using it right.
>>124294636
If you're giving mages gaurds it's obviously not solely hitting those mages.
Also stop recruiting your cap onlies and switch to the priests for a while to save yourself all this salt, they're still incredibely useful and none of your cap onlies are str.
Also you can literally make free troops to patrol with why aren't you?
>>124295990
>amphibious
What's the point if it's immobile anyway?
>>124297129
So UW nations can have it too.
>>124296582
>'could the rng fuck that?'.
It can't fuck that if you are applying all of it to the needed extent.
>spend 5 times
He's spending gems, fort production turns and commander turns. Your are using clearly not enough troops and whining about RNG.
>or just look at the fact you are recommending mictlan forge skullfaces to counter skull talisman and realize that you aren't paying attention to what you are saying.
He listed them amongst everything else that summons extra troops. You are fucking mictlan, it starts with vinemen and imps and yes it ends with skullfaces for cruicial commanders.
>>124297129
So underwater nations can use it.
>that forester bob goal
>>124296582
You tried patrolling with 30 units against a 60 stealth unit. You didn't get fucked by RNG, you're just fucking retarded.
And equipping your commanders with magic gems is an incredibly efficient way to defend against assassins, considering you're spending 1-2 gems per dead assassin (which are equipped with 5 gem items and would otherwise be a mage for him), and you can recover your gems from all the mages that didn't get an assassination attempt once your assassins are dead. Mind hunt is also a decent alternative.
If that one faggot wishes Armageddon one more time I'm just going to quit
He's literally one of those kids in highschool that nobody likes and nobody wants to play with because they do retarded, faggy shit like this when everyone's trying to have a good time
>>124296582
Fine, forget skullfaces. get imp familiars, handful of acorns. Finding a D1 maybe tough for certain ages of mictlan, but some indy's have it, and those can shit out skull talismans. If you built a pretender for Ozes, you can probably craft that cursed contract that shits out imps. Get some bottles of living water out there. Gear up your important mages.
the only way to win a duel is to bring some friends, homey.
>>124297840
Git gud and stop being salty.
If he wins because everyone else is a bunch of quitters like you that'd be hilarious.
>>124298067
it's not winning if everyone quits because you're a faggot.
>>124298178
ablooblooo
git gud
>>124298178
Yeah, it is, quitting just because you're losing is being the faggot.
>>124298418
perhaps rather than shitting on the game board and claiming you've won the game because no one wants to play anymore, you should try actually playing the game?
>>124298178
Except it is. If the enemy gives up, you win by default.
Everyone knows you can Wish for armageddon, and everyone knows that there are a handful of nations that have a good reason to use it. In big games, the chance that someone starts spamming it is almost 100% Git gud and learn to deal with it, or just stop playing.
>>124298178
Eh, don't bother, the autists won't understand
>>124298691
>>124298587
>I refuse to play games when I'm losing!
>everyone else isn't playing correctly!
Please leave /domg/.
>>124298587
so if I beat everyone else because when I go to war with them they start stalling/go AI then I'm not the winner because they didn't want to play anymore?
how about you stop being a salty little bitch and man up
>>124298775
except I'm not losing, or quitting, I'm just sad that someone shit all over monopoly.
>>124298856
>except I'm not losing, or quitting
Giving up is far, far more pathetic than losing.
>>124298856
>it's not losing or quitting because I say so
>>124298948
I'm not Pan, nor do I intend to go AI, I never said I did. I just didn't want R'lyeh to believe that just because no one wants to play with him he gets to claim he wins.
>>124298856
>a bloo bloo someone used a spell I don't like
Stop playing Dominions forever.
>>124299120
if you enjoy playing against AI so much why are you playing MP?
>>124299064
If nobody wanted to play before the game got started, that's not a win.
But if you're in the game and he's beating you so hard you're not playing anymore, he won. Simple as that. Doesn't matter if you're dead, or AI, or just stopped playing out of sheer butthurt. He beat you. You got outplayed. He won.
>>124299245
If you get this mad over losing why are you playing games at all?
>>124299389
I'm actually not mad, I couldn't give two shits if I have no income, hell I can actually still win with 0 income.
>R'lyeh
>widely considered the worst nation in the game
>wins a big game because /domg/ is filled with scrubs who have no idea how to play
This is delicious. I'm rooting for you, squids!
>>124299546
>if he wins I'll refuse to accept his win because I'm a huge faggot
>oh im not mad
>I could win but I don't want to
>>124299546
Then why are you whining this much?
>>124299609
>I'm going to act like a huge prick until everyone quits
>L-look mom I w-won
>>124300105
Git gud, goat.
>>124299837
when have I been whining?
I've stated my opinion that shitting on the board while playing a game is not winning.
I've said that winning by default because you're a fag who can't into armies and fighting and shit.
I haven't accused anyone else of being salty or whining perhaps it is you who are salty because I'm denying you've won games?
>>124299769
you have no reading comprehension do you? I said I wasn't going AI. whether I win or not depends.
We need 1-3 more players to start this shit game, join up if you want to ban ermor and win a game because ermor being played is the reason why you dont have 90% winrate across 420 PBEMS
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/0/492379439668654437/
>>124297840
>If that one faggot wishes Armageddon one more time I'm just going to quit
He's going to wish for it more than once, I'm pretty sure.
>genocide
>a reason to quit
Really faggot? You can still have lots of fun with magic and everyone has full diversity at this point.
>>124300257
>>124300105
>if you don't play Dominions the way I tell you to play, you're a faggot
>if you win by playing smart instead of just throwing armies at me, you're ruining the game
>if you're beating me, I'm quitting
>If I quit before I lose, that means I never lost a game
>everyone who disagrees with me is R'lyeh
Seriously, stop playing Dominions forever. If you're this resistant to gitting gud, you should just go play something else.
>>124300442
>slow research
No thank you.
>>124300257
>you have no reading comprehension do you?
>I haven't accused anyone else of being salty or whining perhaps it is you who are salty because I'm denying you've won games?
the projection is real
>>124300757
so no you don't can read.
>>124300725
Slow research means no ebil globals and armageddons isnt it great?
This whole "if I quit I didn't actually lose" attitude is why we've got so many faggots chainstalling and going AI for the most pathetic of reasons on /domg/.
>>124300920
atleast I can write lmao
>>124301076
Did you do that on purpose?because I did.
>>124300587
>Ruin game people were enjoying for practically everyone
>lol r u quittin bcuz i m beatin u ;)
>>124301037
This.
Either wait until you got only your capital, and it's sieged, and you can't hinder your opponent much more, or shut the fuck up.
Nobody's going to sympathize with pathetic crybabies who blame MUH RNG.
I remember a game where a fag left after the restart because before it he had good paths on his first caster which disappeared after a restart.
Shut up with your whining and either play DOTA or man up.
>>124301282
>if you win by playing smart instead of just throwing armies at me, you're ruining the game
Git gud.
>>124301282
>I'm too bad to deal with an extremely straight-forward strategy
>OH NO THE GAME IS RUINED
top kek
>>124301426
>>124301585
It's that Pan furry gay, don't feed him.
Nearly done with mod
>>124303048
What mod?
>>124301282
This.
R'lyeh ruined the fun for everyone. Let's just kill him and cancel the game, in my opinion.
>>124304104
Git gud.
>>124304104
Flatus admin pls go.
OP really couldn't have picked a better picture for this thread.
>>124304104
Stop suggesting this shit and not writing your nation in the name field.
I disagree with that. Let's just continue the game in the post-income world.Next Oeridia game should be with Cataclysm and extremely slow research though.
>>124304367
Cataclysm is awful.
>>124304486
Yes, and?
>>124304194
>>124304307
>i cry because the other players don't play the way i do
We are just going to beat him and do what we want to do.
Genocide every turn isn't a bad strategy, but he is the only one having fun.
Doing something and calling people that disagree with you "salty players" is retarded aswell.
So if genocice spam is reasonable, allies vs Fishes is also reasonable.
It jsut has new rules: if r'lyeh dies all of us win.
>>124304747
Git gud.
>>124304747
Hai guize whats going on ITT? :3
>>124304367
the same for you. Stop samefagging already, R'lyeh.
All of the comments like this one are either R'lyeh or players that aren't from this game.
>>124305020
Whatever helps you sleep at night bby
>>124305129
you aren't even the real R'lyeh, anon
>>124305020
Happy now?
How about you tell us who you are right now? What's the matter, McFly, chicken?
>>124305218
Oh the irony
>Be me
>Be the real R'lyeh
>Come into the thread
>Shitstorm
>People claiming every commenter is me
>I post
>you aren't even the real R'lyeh, anon
Top kek
And honestly guize, I'm not doing it to troll, just trying to throw a curve ball.
I'm the evil monstrosity of the deeps that you didn't stop in time despite the signs, now you have to adjust your strategies to the brave new world.
Everyone is in the same boat, do you sink or swim?
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ErfSnekPlsGo
ErfSnekPlsGo is a LA game looking for players. No erf sneks allowed, but other sneks are fine.
>>124305815
>world is changing
>everyone is in the same boat
>I can't even pull a berserk joke about that anymore
Dark times, I tell ya.
>>124305815
You're doing a good job. EA R'lyeh is terrible, and cheeky shit like this is pretty much the only way they can compete, especially in a big game like this. Wether it;s for roleplaying reasons or you're actually trying to make people ragequit, you're using one of the few viable strategies R'lyeh has to actually win games.
It's no surprise that everyone is mad at you because casting Armageddon basically means you're attacking everyone at once, but just ignore the pussy faggots who quit because of you and those whining about how you're not playing the game right, because anyone who actually knows their shit realises that's scrubby bullshit.
I'm gonna kick your ass the first chance I get, but I'd never suggest you're ruining the game by using a perfectly legal (if ultimately self-destructive) strategy.
So, who are you?
Please, post a screen of your event list, or shut up. You might as well not be in this game.
>>124306057
A few months from now they're going to find out they're on the wrong island after all and get back on the boat.
A big issue is people joining big games and not expecting bad shit to happen. While I'm enjoying the sim sity aspect a lot, I've been preparing for mass murder even for the entire game.
Even considered a few possible options myself.
>>124306669
Pretty much.
In a huge game like this, you have to plan for Utterdark, Arcane Corruption, Burden of Time, Armageddon, and all that kind of shit. If you lose because of any of those, you simply failed to prepare for the obvious.
>>124306402
>Elf island
> I S L A N D
>implying they're not going to get back on the boat regardless.
Yo Marverni, you here?
>>124306932
>Berserk turns into One Piece
>they hop around on the boat, going from island to island
>each trip takes years of serialization time
>>124307305
Honestly, the fact that we got as many chapters out recently as we did is already a miracle compared to the eons of waiting we already suffered. It's like the editor finally hunted Miura down and he had to throw some pages at him in order to escape.
How the fuck?
>>124307947
Event
>>124307947
Event chain. He's almost certainly hostile.
>>124307947
Random event?
>>124307947
I think it's from a story event.
>>124307947
A random event, maybe?
>>124307947
1337 |-|@><0Rz?
>>124307947
He probably attacked another player's province as part of an event.
>>124307947
I'm just guessing here, but there's a small chance he spawned from an event.
>>124307947
It was probably an eventful occurrence
>>124307947
well, at least the temperature effect was counterbalanced on the same turn
>>124307947
EBENTO DEEEEEESU
>>124308808
But I like it cold.
>>124309748
You know who likes it hot?
Bats.
Do you want to be like Bats? Of course you don't.
Is NoWeebs Pangea here?
>>124310708
Hello soon to be neighbour
I am. On a phone at the moment though.
>no turns
>no cute battle reports to read
Take your turns or post about the turns you've taken.
>>124312185
I'll take your mom you nerd
>>124312250
Hilarious insult, friend! Keep it up!
>>124312134
Alright. I'm willing to give you 104 and 91, but nothing else. I know you're making good income on your provinces already,considering I have dominion in them, and asking for anything more is just silly. I'm only doing this because I would rather get rid of the skeletons before wasting my resources on a war with you.
>>124312535
Considering it at the moment, but let me actually get to a computer to look at the map. Will give you an answer then. If you put in you're turn before then, since you're the last one, shit will get awkward.
The struggle continues.
>>124312781
I haven't submitted my turn yet. If you have any troops invading my lands next turn I expect that you'll tell me. That is, if you accept my offer
>>124306989
Yes, ish.
Also who was the missing order for? Agartha got the wrong stuff.
>>124313186
I did have stuff invading, but considering that you're willing to split the farmland, I'm okay with the deal. If I were more confident in my ability to win for certain, and I didn't have a certain cancerous dominion on my border, it might be different. But considering the existence of Ermor, I'd rather not smash our troops together.
As of now I've put in a different Turn, nothing should be moving through your territory minus the possible scout.
>>124313664
Alright
>>124313621
>undermeming
As I'm not next to the skeletons, I will start with offering a 1 gold bounty on each skeletons of Ermor's that is killed. It's not going to be a massive amount but would urge others whom are not near the skeletons to offer a similar amount to help fund an early end to the skelemenace.
I'd like a sufficiency of proof that it is in this game and so such.
>>124314314
that could potentially be a great deal of gold.
you should offer two for every ghoul, they're his castle defenders.
>Luck 0
pffffft
>>124313181
I made a slight whoopsie that time, but at least my Jarls made it out again
What's the cheapest summonable commander that won't die from armageddon? Big guy?
>>124314724
Sleeper? Armageddon is only 15 AP damage.
>>124297840
good, you're annoying as shit.
>>124315004
its 20, also drn.
>>124314314
Make that 1/3 gold/skeleton, but significant bounties for Sacreds and dusk elders.
>>124314632
Over 5000 gold worth of giants lost isn't a slight woopsie, but whatever, C'tis will get me eventually.Then probably get you as well
>>124314632
You've made a whoopsie by recruiting shit giants and I'd bet fighting in heat 3.
>>124316436
15 AP + DRN
>>124314724
Sleeper
>>124316530
the outcome of the fight isn't what I mean, every fight is a learning experience
it's more like the dubious scattershot suggestions in >>124316647:
learning how to use wolven winter, where fights take place when both armies move etc.
I wouldn't keep throwing armies into the grinder if losing them was super critical; I want to learn how to use them.
So, wait, is Lanka in a bad position right now? Because that's just glorious.
>>124317779
It's not as though I would have a good chance of winning anyway even if I didn't start next to a massive wasteland
>>124307947
Bets on the demon lord killing everyone?
Also, R'lyeh was the only one to respond with ideas for the Ocean Alliance chat thing, let's have a roll call of whom is in the thread for it.
Also Satan (Yomi) is needing to drop out, any volunteers as a sub?
>>124317779
C'tis and whoever started in all the other farms are probably the only ones left in the running. Fomoria might if he can clean up Machaka/Yomi, arco seems like kind of a scrub and is struggling to beat EA Ulm AI. Maybe Vanheim is doing better?
>>124319692
Formia lost his god, prophet and over 100 Nemedians vs me, I'm pretty sure he can't kill me and machaka in any reasonable time frame.
>>124319807
He's been kicking Machaka's ass though, thunderstrike outranges any of the shit Machaka has been throwing out and their troops are just no where near as good.
china you would have won this battle if you scripted your archers to attack his archers
you also put your plague carrier hero in the middle of your mages
baka
>>124319662
I'm in the thread, but ain't really got a whole lot of ideas.
>>124319807
>Formia lost his god, prophet and over 100 Nemedians vs me,
How did that happen? Pretty much any setup yomi can do is better done by fomoria.
>>124320171
Well, huh, that sucks....
>>124320352
He tried to storm my cap, without mage support. Ate fireballs from Hannyas singing 'Do you hear the people sing?'
Just lost my highest income province to that travelling band of indie faggots who immediately sniped my commander and routed 30 PD. What's the hardest you guys have been fucked by random events?
>>124313426
Any chance you can do that for me if I give you the gems, or is it a no go?
>>124320372
I'm essentially just going to have to stall him until I can get Banefire online. The only counter I can think of atm for Tstrikers put in the far rear are to put everything forward and mix in Boudas/hyeanas with temperflesh or some other lightning resists and skelespamming
>>124320739
In actual games Bogus landing on 200 gold income province while I was gold starved as fuck is probably the worst.
But I've run multiple test games where I got my capital sieged by 40 trolls on turn 3.
>>124320818
Birds, you plan is silly and I can't really see how it's going to work. How are you going to target it?
>>124320968
shhhh, I'll pay you for it and fail, just tell me if you'll do it or not
>>124320818
Do what for you?
>>124321402
Sent you a message in game.
>>124321395
Your confidence won't save you.
>>124321396
Post your plan and pictures afterwards.
>>124321735
That's insane, send me the payment next turn, I'll send the goods, and if it works I'll at very least buy you whatver the equivilent of a drink is.Or a ring of wizardy.
>>124322031
Don't worry, my plan will go down in a glorious ball of very expensive fire.
>>124322420
Here's future theme song for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW-BU6keEUw
>>124319662
Is anything going to be done about our other chain stallers, notably Hinnom and to a lesser extend Lanka. They've stalled 4 and 3 times respectively.
>>124323856
They're treading close enough to the due turn time for now, but I'll keep a closer eye
>>124323856
If the admin is around I can set someone AI.
>>124320739
Getting a barbarian invasion on the province where in the turn before I had started constructing a 1000g fort. I had luck 3.
>>124324195
As I understand it you can keep constructing the fort, right?
>>124324152
does anyone need to be set AI, yet?
Apart from perhaps Yomi if a substitute isn't found today
>>124324741
Nope. It was gone.
how does a commander benefit from having the Formation Fighter ability?
>>124321395
woah, N9B9D9 sacred cavalry won a fight versus an expansion force. youre the best ermor ever dude.
>>124325167
He's just salty I put a bounty on his skellies, amoung other stuff in the thread showing he's about to be dicked on.
>>124325560
yeah. like im getting the province back in a few turns anyway when hes forced to run his sacreds back to defend his capital so it's just a minor setback. what the fuck are you even gonna do from here ermor. go for the nearby throne just to clear it out before i take it from you? siege my cap for a few turn w/ a force thatll never break it just to gameshit? park the units there as a big useless lump?
>>124324836
Looking at stales (I'm the guy who offered to AI ppl) you could probably safely AI Hinnom, potentially Lanka as well. Unless you know something I don't.
>>124326178
probably not, but I'd just prefer to AI nations only when they causing disruptions or long delays. We've been getting a turn a day, but like I said I'll keep an eye on things.
daily reminder who the real power behind MA ermor is
>>124320739
Back in my day, Ancient Presence was the worst event that could hit your cap.
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>>124328303
You moved your immortal pretender supermage outside of your dominion?
Bold.
You're a bro, Asdod.
>>124321395
Just you wait, demon.
>>124326686
You're getting a turn a day because of a 24hr turn timer.
Just post in thread when you need someone to AI them.
>>124293445
Where's the stream?
>>124328303
So the different varieties of longdead appear as one group of units originally then separate out into different types when you use undead mastery on them?
>>124297840
Good, I want your provinces.
>>124329294
I choose "Useless Dominions 4 Facts" for 300, Alex.It seems so.
>>124328540
Now I'm on the defensive, so I can cast Master Enslave or just retreat the very first turn. He's welcome to try to teleport on top of me though.
>>124329268
I see what you mean now. I'll give it a turn or two, then designate AI as necessary, and let you know accordingly.
>>124330372
So I can steal Hinnons cap then?
>>124320273
An IRC would work, but first we need to find everyone, R'LYEH I KNOW YOU'RE PROBBLY ASLEEP OR AT WORK BUT COME ON MAN.
>>124331105
I can be your replacement Ry'leh water nation. I have mind blasters too . . .
>>124331636
Shoo land things, we'd need to decide if you meet the requisit water-ness to join.
>>124331105
Just set one up and message the password to everyone in game who needs it.
>>124332173
That's a great idea.
Or more to be precise I'm only respondng to it so the other water nations can see that that's what I'm going to do.
Peopple just fucking hate income, don't they?
>>124332364
Don't worry, I'm removing squids now, and Cealum has what must be the best plan ever.
>>124332263
A password protected dropbox with the logfiles would work to help with those who can't attend meetings by the way.I desperately wanted to do something just like this but haven't seen a chance to yet.
>>124332548
I also am invading squids. I've got two small expansion forces right now but I'm working on finding summons worth putting UW, we'll have to talk when I get out of that inlet between us.
>>124333023
Do you want to buy any of my 'getting underwater' gear? Like chalices and shambler skins?
And I went into the other sea, so you might not get out of the inlet.
>>124333202
Well shit. Is there space to go around you?I might buy them at DorfHammer prices if there is. That's still a hefty W profit for you, while justifying my buying them from you in the first place.
Ahahahahaha
Pythium tried to suicide a diseased mute Theurg, but he cast Frozen Heart a few times and killed the 1 PD instead.
Well played
>>124333581
Both of the diseased thaumaturgs I tried to get off the pension plan survived their battle too, but luckily one of them at least had the good grace to die to his disease this turn.
>>124319692
Vanheim has occupied most if not all of the birdlands and is/has taken their cap. He also has a few farms in the southeast (if not all of them).
>>124337430
True but he was complaining earlier that Caelum put him waaay behind, I took him at his word.
>>124337834
Around elves watch yourselves.
>>124338582
Ehh missing research as Vanheim is pretty bad, considering how poor their research is.
>>124331636
shut it.
>>124331105
I'm here.
>>124261386
Van here, I have E6 and E7 for forging-related purposes.
>>124297129
>what is teleport
>>124345032
>can't move even with magic
OH GOD MY INCOME
WHY DID YOU THINK THIS WAS OKAY SHILLWINTER
>>124345668
The global earthquake really should murder less of an absurd amount of population.
>>124346657
It's a magical attempt to end the world, using a spell that can warp reality to the desires of the caster. You can also wish to kill enemy pretenders, or steal their unique summons and items. It's great.
Ermor has agreed to settle our differences with a Magic Duel. Our pretenders will do battle directly. May the true heir to Ermor win.
>>124347316
Wait, you can kill enemy pretenders via wish?
I did know you can wish for friends or babes.
Though babes mighta been ADOM.
>>124348224
You can try to kill them, but it might not work on resilient chassis.
Bob should've bobbed harder
>>124351959
If only 2000 ghosts in a fort were a better ghoulkeeper
>>124351096
he'spretty good
So domg what kinda design would you like to see for new pretenders? I personally would love a pretender item that granted what ever commander its equipped to its magic levels/candles and was a good item besides. (maybe the old pantokrartor's sword)
Okay, there's only three non-AI nations, and I'm stuck underwater.
Great.
>>124354571
>MA Pelagia
>Stuck underwater
You have amphibious sacreds and massable RoS casters. Figure something out.
>>124354669
My start was terrible, R'lyeh had an awake pretender and made tonnes of chaff to pillage every province he could.
I'm so far behind it's not even funny.
>>124354854
as they say in fish language "glub glub" which means "acquire higher skills levels"
>>124296582
>>124295046
>>124294067
>>124291406
Hello yes I am the one assassinating mictlan.
He caught 3 assassins by simply setting a single army to patrol last turn, so i'm not sure why he's complaining in the thread. If he'd done that, like, 5 turns ago, he'd likely have overrun me by now.
>>124303389
Finished spriting for the unit mod I was doing. Just going to finish the code and writing then I"ll release these five nations.
Also addressed Abysia's units being a bit lame. The boring Lava Warrior with a Holy Flail got replaced by the Hell-Born which has a Hell Sword instead. So you have a berserking 6 dude with life drain.
>modding for an unpopular game
kek'd desu
>>124356389
It's more fun than playing it :^)
>>124355520
hahahahahahahahaha
this is better than i could've ever hoped
i was thinking he was at least being destroyed by ea abysia, or ea ctis.
but ea ermor's podunk human assassins blasting the shit out of B/N mages with easy answers to chaff just boggles my mind
>>124351959
The goal was pretty fantastic though, he gore'd the ball with the helmet like is life depended on it. Too bad about the other attempts though.
>>124356389
People still play it so who cares?
>>124356337
The hell-born looks ninja as fuck.good job modder-kun
>>124357328
Have you ever seen a PBEM with mods (excluding balance mods and nationgen/cataclysm)?
>>124358063
Cataclysm and a few nation mods, yeah.
>>124358150
>excluding balance mods and nationgen/cataclysm
>Cataclysm and a few nation mods, yeah.
>>124358225
But yes, I have seen some games with various nation mods.
>>124358335
I bet if you're not lying, they were a complete disaster.
>>124358521
No, not really. On Desura and SA at least they were pretty fun.
>>124358583
Oh, really? Can you tell me what nations were used? I'm genuinely curious, never been to SA and have never checked Desura games.
>>124358697
CoE nations, Warhammer nations, and some of Globu's and Sombre's nations.
Warhammer nations tend to be really OP though.
>>124356337
I can't wait for what you can come up with for Micltan. I would like to see elite units for the cap only of each era (so something unique for jags in MA and something unique for eagles in EA LA)
>>124358762
Warhammer tends to be played against other warhammer nations, but they vary pretty widely in power. I remember Skaven being fucking stupid even at a glance, but the knights and dwarves were pretty cool.
>>124358762
Neat. I thought Warhammer nations to be the most balanced ones though.
>>124358841
Sun Warrior elites :^)
>>124358891
See
>>124358882
They're really in a class of their own. Skaven and Lizards were infamously OP
>>124358986
he can make them elite by making themmap move 2
>>124358841
>>124358986
>top tier magic equipment for Mictlan is just a normal iron sword
>>124359064
Still no reason to ever get them over jags, pretty much. They're a mediocre infantry sacred in a faction with shapeshifting infantry sacreds.
>>124359162
easy solutionmake sun warriors shapeshift into jaguars with awe
>>124359004
>>124358891
>>124358882
I played a warhams game in dom4, skaven and lizards are op, some of the chaos ones are op, nehekhara is weird (tm), but otherwise it's alright. Elves, dwarves, humans aren't weak, but they aren't top tier either. Weirdly vampire counts are probably one of the weaker ones.
>>124356337
^ i'd play that abysia, and take a bless
>>124359671
Warden Ascendants (basically Wardens with Glamour), Jade Guard (40 AP 4 Attacks), and the Hell-Born as I already mentioned are the ones that are sacred.
My personal favorite are the Champion Longbows with 50 precision.
>>124359843
Ah, but do they use bodkins to pierce armour
and robin-hood style fire five arrows at once
>>124359923
No, but Horde Vessels which I planned for LA Tien fire 25 at once.
>>124359843
>Jade Guard (40 AP 4 Attacks)
What are they equipped with?
>>124360009
Just two falchions and two hooves to represent the fact they're quickened.
>>124360009
My guess (not that guy) is lance, sword, hoof hoof.
>>124360109
But wait, if they're sacred and get w9, what happens then?
>>124360109
>Just two falchions and two hooves to represent the fact they're quickened.
Consider just giving them the quickened tag then, since otherwise they're going to get quickened and be kinda stupid. Honestly, even F9 alone is already insanely strong with 8 attacks / square
>>124360240
They get 8 attacks. But the other nations also get crazy stuff like Ulm' Forge Brothers with heat shield and their black steel, Gehenna Anakites with fire brands, and Machaka's Death Light Cultists with banefire shield and fear.
>>124360559
They're still quite vulnerable to evos and arrows, so I don't think it's a huge issue. You can't give units quickness either unless it's a commander set to cast quickness.
>>124297840
stop being so damn retarded.
building a strategy around armageddon IS the right choice in that map and whoever did it is doing the right thing in its interests. he is playing the game right.
now you could just look at your nation and realize that, supposedly, you should have lot of N gems with mother oak and spamming transformations on Pans(preferably with GoH on, but you can see arguments for it anyway) is going to give you fat advantages in a gold-poor world.
>>124360592
I'm pretty much all for more interesting/better sacreds. Hell, i'm for better everything really. Easier research, better spells, cheaper mages, everything except mundane infantry could easily get better. Midgames where mundane human troops are relevant as anything but chaff is lame as fuck as far as i'm concerned.
>>124363079
^ this
wait, pan was the one spamming that 'ugu~' shit all over the thread and claiming other people were lying shitters or something, right? They went AI at the first reverse? Unsurprising.
>>124363830
He didn't actually go AI, just said he would.
Why do people say R'lyeh sucks?
>>124364930
EA sucks because everything good is aquatic and is really hard to get on land.
LA sucks because their dominion kills population and freespawn eat gold.
MA can be decent, but I've heard they lose easily to a blessrush by either of the other MA underwater nations.
>>124364930
Shit troops, mediocre mages.
Underwater patch helped a bit since their slave mages no longer lose paths, but they aren't great either way since W2-3/S1 is not the most potent combination and their other paths aren't strong enough for more than little utility.
>>124351959
/domg/ always does absolutely awful in this shit.
Boksi is a fucking incompetent.
>>124368609
We did kind of good last time though. Perhaps Boksi got better with time.
>>124368694
>depending on a furry avatarfag
>>124368609
>>124368694
It's not a 6-1 at least. But I did fuck up somewhat because I had completely forgotten how to livemanage.
>>124368978
Monster girls aren't furries, anon.
>>124369078
>literally being the jobbers of the entire board
>tfw you've been talking trash to an enemy all game lone and now you're only one turn away from the decisive battle
>>124369561
>talking trash in a video game
Are you Russian or are you 12 years old?
>>124369646
>can't handle the banter
Cyкa блять.
Are you done possturing now, Machaka?
I ssaid I would recognisse your right of conquesst if you won, but you losst ass hard to me ass you did to the indiess, sso I conssider thiss casse clossed.
Anime is life.
>>124372521
Conquest of Elysium mods when.
>>124373659
Dominions mods when.
Are the Dom3 maps from llama compatible with Dom4?
>>124370617
By which you mean equal losses (though you lost PD where I lost mercs)
Still have hundreds of spiders, come at me bro.
>>124376336
>equal losses
>230 vs 60
Amussing way to do math.
How does one Monkey?
why don't we have a webm yet of forester bob's goal in domg vs utg
>>124375896
Partially. The maps with random elements are, but scenarios aren't. There are also no "nothrones" variable in Dom3, so expect thrones in random places.
>>124377551
Also no caves.
>>124377551
Is there a dom4 map repo of sorts?
>>124377672
I don't think so.
I got most of my maps by searching on Desura forums.
>>124377634
Yeah, and no rivers/mountain passes.
P.S.: my Mother Oak was overcast to 300N
>>124377445
That would be great. I'd like to see that
>>124377935
For what purpose?
Are Monster Toads still a good idea in MA as C'tis?
>>124377935
>overcasting earliest global by that much
>overcasting a weak global by that much
>going AI instead of adapting
>>124378718
I cast that global as early as I could, and it had given me plenty of returns, and I doubt it's going to be dispelled or removed by another global any time soon so it would have given me even more if I stuck around.
And no, I don't play with faggots. I let faggots play by themselves. The rest of you can enjoy the game if you'd like, but I refuse to let R'lyeh the autist think that his actions are in any way acceptable.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have turns in other games I need to make.
>>124378932
Ain't you a salt powered robot.
>>124378932
Can you explain, without whining or using meaningless buzzwords, why you're making up arbitrary rules of whether or not casting a simple spell everyone knows is in the game is "unacceptable", other than that you're the sorest loser on /domg/?
>>124378932
>And no, I don't play with faggots. I let faggots play by themselves. The rest of you can enjoy the game if you'd like, but I refuse to let R'lyeh the autist think that his actions are in any way acceptable.
You are by far the worst player in recent history and your behaviour is not acceptable.
>>124376430
Less than 60 of my dead were non-merc/hired on the spot, given the amount of PD you bought and how much chaff is worth to either of us, yeah.
Still wasn't exactly as I wanted, I was hoping to get lucky with either a fireball or the Zotzs and kill some of your casters or your Snek.
>>124378932
You joined an all nations EA game on a giant map with a side that via transformation and freespawn can survive armageddom fairly well.
Basically you're a wuss whom at the first hint that you couldn't just sit in your corner spamming furry shit in the thread has gone AI, good riddance.Not that I'm saying what R'lyeh did was a good choice, personally I'd have started wishing for population, slowly building R'lyeh itself into a megaprovince of billions whilst drowning random armies of other people.
>>124378932
>Stale Pan
>Calling other people faggots
Kek
>>124378932
Scrub
>>124379817
Ssure, keep acting tough even though you firsst losst to indiess twice in a row, then tried to bully me into giving you sstuff for free even though I already gave you a free province ass a gessture of good intentionss, and then losst an entire army failing to follow up on your petty threatss.
You're more than welcome to try again and prove you're not full of sshit, but otherwisse I ssugesst you drop the act.
You're not impresssing anyone.
Enjoy the rest of the game :o)
>>124380310
I'm pretty impressed.
>>124380446
Literally the saltiest /domg/ player ever.
>>124380446
:o) Familia
>>124380509
You forgot Noobaloo's Helheim.
>>124380310
I haven't been trying to act tough, I've tried to be fairly forthright in what I've done and said.
>>124380446
thanks R'lyeh for making these keks this salty
>>124380546
I wasn't in Noobaloo, what happened to Helheim?
>>124380597
He blessrushed Bob and AI'd after failing.
>>124380446
You seem to be under the assumption that Dominions 4 is a cooperative game.
A better analogy would be starting to indiscrimatingly flinging nukes in a cold war game like Defcon. Nigh garunteed to make you lose, but perfectly within the games rules and possible expectations of other players.
OP image turns out to be very appropriate to the topic at thand
>>124380054
>Not that I'm saying what R'lyeh did was a good choice, personally I'd have started wishing for population, slowly building R'lyeh itself into a megaprovince of billions whilst drowning random armies of other people.
It's not worth it, really. Simply impossible to have enough wishes like that do do any significant impact.
>>124380054
>He doesn't know pop caps at 50k
>>124380310
You seem to be confused about the way /domg/ plays its games. You see, most people here have a very one-track mind when it comes to war.
Once you've started a war, you must absolutely, at all times remain at war. Even when you're losing, you either gotta keep pretending you're winning, or else give up and go AI. Diplomacy is for weenies.
>>124380446
>mfw 50 resends and genocide spam is a new meme
We're making history boys!
Welp. Hello darkness, my old friend. Welcome to post-income world.
>>124380864
I guess, just seems like a fun idea.
>>124380907
Well, no, I didn't. Thanks for telling me.
>>124380446
Except he didn't do anything like that. The game is still extremely playable.
You could have at least waited till inevitable astral corruption.
>>124380990
I'd be fine with a temporary stoppage, but the problem is once you have been at war with someone that border is the most unsafe one, and antagonising someone else might just get you bangganged.
>>124381059
This is it, the apocalypse
Whoa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIW_Ca8OWTo
>>124380446
Resistance to change is a symptom of autism
>>124314314
Ok, As I do border the skellies can we have peace in our time for the time being?
Vanhiem, same thing?
>>124380446
You know that reactions like these only serve to ensure that people repeat exactly this behavior in all future games, right?
It's like you have no understanding of human nature at all. I don't know what you expected in a game of this size, anyway.
>>124381792
>It's like you have no understanding of human nature at all.
He's not human, he's a memegoat.
>>124381158
What happens when you press π?
>>124382649
Something intelligent
>>124382702
But pi is irrational.
>>124383473
It transcends such concerns.
>>124380446
But anon, please dont go :(
I kind of think you are a cool guy (even if you sometimes tryhard too much at memeing).
Just think that if you leave R'lyeh is winning. Also anyway a meme annoying strategy is still a strategy.
I can feel you, brcause both of us cant reach r'lyeh so we can just soak genocides and wait for it to finish, hoping his neighbours will kill him.
Just stay, anon! You can play as a puppet nation for me if you dont feel like thinking anymore, but if you leave you are letting memers and meme enablers win.
Lets build a society in post-income world.
>>124384423
He already went. You got a deathbasket.
>>124359571
I actually made the dark elf and orcs & goblins one. I collaborated with another guy on OnG but the sprites were mostly me. Have any advice on how to modify them?
>>124381735
Yeap, but the forest throne is mine.
>>124384423
>I can feel you, brcause both of us cant reach r'lyeh so we can just soak genocides and wait for it to finish, hoping his neighbours will kill him.
I can offer you a landing spot on the central portal island if you care enough.
I just want gems generated by that area to be compensated and i might need it from time to time.
>>124384889
That island will soon be surrounded by me, via boar submarines.
>>124384889
Throwing your armies away trying to fight me is an irrational, emotional action which will spell your doom in the wars to come.
It will not stop the apocalypse, and your cunning neighbors will take advantage and invade.
Now is the time where the true strategists will be revealed, are you one of them?
>>124385467
Fuck off R'lyeh, your terrible scales alongside your armageddon seals your fate. Before everyone didn't care enough to kill you, now they do.
>>124385650
He's actually enjoying pretty positive scales from his neighbors. His dominion was contained to the core region.
>>124385650
Make no mistake, I don't care if you invade or not, whatever happens will amusing regardless and I can hold out almost indefinitely.
I certainly don't expect you to be able to withdraw now that you have committed yourself to an invasion, that would be inconsistent and thus you will rationalize it to the end, to your doom.
My message was more of a broadcast to everyone in hopes it would stir the cold calculating strategist within.
There are paths which lead to victory and paths which lead to death, the void is ready to embrace you.
5! random indie attacks in one turn under luck 3.
along with 35 gems, but still! 5 god damned indie attacks under order0 luck3.
>>124381243
I'm cool with a ceassefire ass long ass you keep to the DMZ I ssuggessted before you threw your army away.
>>124386102
Throne of bones, friend.
>>124386101
Your message is a last ditch 'Oh fuck I thought I was safe underwater.
I've attacked people and settled on peace before, what incentive do I have to go to peace with you? You'll continue to attack me.
>>124386557
as your neighbor I can assure you are borders are safe.
>>124386761
*our borders are safe
>>124386557
That is your rationalization at work, I am safe under water, a lot safer than you are.
I will continue to wish for Armageddon until I have no more pearls, and there is nothing an invasion will do to stop that.
By all means, waste your troops and lose the game. You know I speak the truth.
>>124386907
You're deciding to exclude one important thing, if we continue to let you survive you will cast wish every time you are able, correct?
The best move is to rush you in any other game you start in, as meta as that is, because I'm pretty sure you've done this ilk of thing in two other games I know of.
>>124378932
>>124380446
What a fucking baby. At least I can eat your land now.
>>124387124
If you're thinking of Haerland, then no, that was me. We just happened to name our pretenders similarly.
>>124387391
Nah,Smallfish
>>124387124
True, I will keep casting wish at the very least until the world is completely depopulated.
And rush me in other games if you can figure out who I am, I'm not worried.
>>124387124
>>124387391
>>124387438
>>124387630
He only needs 8 or so wishes to kill so much population that future wishes wont even matter. Once it begins it cant be stopped.
>>124388000
I'm ready for the post-income world
>>124388000
When I think 8 wishes mean 2000 blood slaves ( and 0.4*2000=800 Ozelotls) I die a little bit inside thinking he is wasting that much potential for a meme. Or well, probably you can get a lot of cool stuff with 800 astral pearls.
At least he is trying to roleplay instead of plainly memeing on us.
>>124388405
>>124388000
Also, check those repeating digits
>>124388525
Its a perfectly viable strat for Rlyeh tho, it kills the pop stopping blood, I won games this way myself.
>>124388405
Everyone should be, it happens in most late game large games.
>>124358063
Vegetable Warriors series here. They use a mix of modnations.
>>124376772
>Monkey
>Posts apes
>>124388000
That's why you get a gem economy running beforehand. Armageddon spam isn't anything new, you just need to prepare for it.
>>124389376
Bandar Log has both monkeys and apes.
40 /domg/ pbems played to completion, 134 desura pbems, 37 dom4mods pbems submitted. I suspect that's most of them.
>>124390426
There's a fuckton of older games that aren't included, but I don't remember the details of them so I suppose it's pointless to add them.
>>124388525
mate do I have to spell it out for you what you need to do?
Cast astral corruption. R'lyeh's pretender will be attacked by a doom horror, and if you don't want AC up afterwards, suicide for him or pool astral gems from everyone to dispel it.
>>124390671
>R'lyeh's pretender will be attacked by a doom horror
Depending on doom horror, he won't have any issues surviving.
>>124390617
A fair number have been added. I went and pestered a couple less-active dominions players and they submitted a dozen or so. A lot of the other nonsubmitted games were those with no clear winner where everyone just kind of went ai.
>>124390861
Sure. I added a couple myself as well. But /domg/ has been around for... what, 3 years now? We've had WAY more than 40 games in that time. Even discounting the ones that didn't end with a clear winner.
>>124390724
He'll be attacked by a doom horror every turn with a 100 gem cast, and you can easily lower the dominion of his god's province with a few melancholia casts or some false idols to drop his health to manageable levels.
>>124391249
>He'll be attacked by a doom horror every turn with a 100 gem cast
He only needs to do like two-three more armageddons. Hell, even if he doesn't get them, world is already down to 30% of population.
>drop his health to manageable levels
Things that stop doom horros are not related to god's hp.
>>124387391
>At least I can eat your land now.
This to be honest family.
Mictlan's out too, which is a boon for me as well. Looks like R'lyeh has actually preserved the aspect of peaceful landgrabbing, at least in the west, by giving us more AIs to go for.
>>124391976
Eternal expansion is wonderful.
>>124378932
I'm not even in the game, but holy shit aren't you a gigantic faggot
>>124391030
It also doesn't count "meme" games (ie, those that are heavily modded), and /domg/ tends to play a lot of those. I know there are games not on there, but of the dozen or so games I've played with /domg/, 1 was deleted early, one had everyone stale/ai in the first thirty turns, two more were heavymodded memegames, and I think another 1-2 that I exited early didn't have a real winner, but just a bunch of abandons.
>>124384780
Git gud at shading.
Is there any reason to not have him in Corruptor form?
Also is he LITERALLY the most EDGY hero in the game?
Pangaea goes AI
>immediately attacks me
Goddamnit.
>>124392627
>warlock has dark vision but no dark power
>corruptor has no dark vision but does have dark power
BRAVO ILLFRAUD
>>124392789
Demons have 100% dark vision.
>>124392715
>attacks me
Literally who?
>>124393018
Me.
>also have undead up in my shit thanks to throne of bones
>and I have not the gold to make a good army to kill either of these things, and if I use summons and gems I need to divert my research core, just to play whack-a-mole against enemies that aren't even people
The game isn't fun any more, guys. I might be the next Pan.
So what're the new power rankings now that the whole world will soon be dead?
>>124393242
>I might be the next Pan
You really wanna be a huge saltlord ?
>>124393242
>just to play whack-a-mole against enemies that aren't even people
Mate, most of us have been fighting Ai for the last 30 turns.
>>124391376
Got curious, did some testing, and the eater of dream's MR negates attack seems to have had his attack value added to the MR roll. Is that just how MR-negates weapons work?
>>124393528
No, I acknowledge that R'lyeh's strategy is a legitimate way to win.
>>124393634
>damage value 1010
wew
>Win
Dominions isn't about winning. Fuck off to CSGO if you want to brag about your rank.
>>124393634
>I want to believe
>>124392627
Seems more like his ability to transform into a warlock is more for lore reasons than gameplay reasons.
>>124393631
Well I have too, but expanding is different compared to having giant fucking goat armies rampaging about your (now fucked) core provinces just because all your armies were doing more important shit.
>>124381792
I'll be sending you more water gems this turn. You can pay me back down the road, any gem type but fire.you can also return them or whatever if I sent too much
Turns out I've got no use for them while R'lyeh is nuking all of my water mages, I've got almost none of them left now.
>>124393930
Spam flying thugs.
>>124393786
?
Most games have winning as an objective. Sure, there are games that do not have "winners" but Dominions is not one of those. Sorry you're bad.
>>124390426
I have like another 6-7 or so that aren't on the list but I keep forgetting to add them when I'm home.
>>124390426
>tfw my very first game, BullyBootCamp, isn't on the list
Does innate fear stacks with item fear?
>>124395295
Yes.
>>124395075
>my game isn't on the list
Enter it yourself. People who weren't in the game can't do so.
>>124395407
I would, but I don't remember who won because I was killed before it ended.
Vanheim do you need an extension? If so how long?
>>124395983
Yes. About 6 hours
>>124396079
Alright
>>124396261
Admin, you're a cool dude for checking, noticing and asking.
ded
>stall warriors turns into economic autism simulator with people just fucking around
>R'lyeh trying to push the game back into some sense of competition and using intelligence and strategy
Thank god for R'lyeh, This shit might actually end sometime soon now, now I just wait for argartha to break the seal
>>124401530
There's absolutely no reason to stop playing economic simulator.
Actually now there's more reason to do it.
>>124393634
I'm pretty sure it's just 999 +DRN aka 2d6, exploding 6, -1 to total.
llamaserver should collect more stats about games hosted on it so we don't need to manually report our games.
A bunch of shit could be collected, too - turn each nation goes AI, are defeated, average game length, wins, how many games are completed, etc.
Somebody make them do this.
>>124380446
Quit whinin' and make some fucking sushi. You're barely hit when you get transformation on fucking everything and are drowning in N.
Does Wind Ride have a chance of failure against size 5 units and E3 or lower mages? The manual only says size 6 for the size and E4 for mages that can't be affected. Is that the hard limit, or is it a % based thing?
I want to play a multiplayer game.
>>124406562
Then do it.
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/where-did-the-pantokrator-go/page/2
Caldius is right
>>124406902
wew lad I barely know how to play singleplayer game
>>124407246
I've won several games on /domg/ and while late-game turns can indeed take a lot of time, I've never, ever spent more than an hour on any one turn.
Sure you can test out every possible scenario, but you quickly run into diminishing returns. You simply cannot test for every possibility, and unless you're completely retarded you'll quickly learn what does and doesn't work in a certain scenario. Sure, your opponent might do something you didn't expect, but if that's the case you're not going to be able to test for it anyway.
People can test all they want, I don't care. In the end it's just a massive waste of time, and certainly no substitute for gitting gud.
>>124407696
I don't think any of us know how to play.
>>124407696
Same can be said about most people on /domg/
>>124407729
Testing can be incredibely useful, I've lost armies due to leaving my script the way it was and someone running multiple tests against it.
I've also won against people who tested a ton and found interesting ways to beat my army because I threw in something unexpected or my luck beat their statistics.
>>124408357
I'm not saying testing is never useful, but spending 2-4 hours testing every turn, like that guy suggests, is a huge waste of time for very little benefit.
>>124407246
He may be right, but that's the try-hard method for people with way too much time on their hands. Pouring 2 to 4 hours in every turn ? Testing and predicting everything ? That's nice, but I'm not even sure getting a win is worth that 'price', as he calls it.
That said, I totally agree when he says whatever you learned should be reused in the next game. It might seem obvious, but that's a legit way to git gud. And it actually works without the player needing to test everything all the time.
>>124408234
To be fair, it's pretty fucking hard to git gud at dominions given how it's such a massive timesink and the variety of opponents you go against.
>>124347976
Ermor has expressed his cowardice and cancelled our magic duel. The stadium construction has been cancelled, and the Scelerian m-sports commentators have been whining loudly about the loss of the event.
He didn't fly sso good.
>>124409192
>BUT I GOTTA SEND 99 THAUMATURGS THERE TOO
>JUST TO MAKE SURE
That wouldn't be a fair duel anyway. Come on, you're a nerd, just figure it out. It's not that difficult.
>>124408754
Okay. I just wanted to make sure scrubs understood that some testing can be vital.
>>124409192
Magic duel would be the worst sport to watch ever. Even worse than Curling.
>two dudes enter
>10 seconds pass
>one dude's head explodes
>polite applause
>>124409823
The audience is all skeletons. They're easily amused.
>>124409823
think of it more like the ending of Scanners
Does fool's luck protect against armageddon?
>>124410280
I'm not sure, but I think it only works in battle.
Has anyone played the werid assassin pretender in a multiplayer game?
Did it hurt your diplomacy or make it better?
Is it just a shitty gimmick?asking for a friend
>>124410813
I've seen it used once by Ermor. He did the whole rush BoT and get everyone to invade you thing and then assassinated the commanders invading him. It was effective for that, but that's more of a troll strategy than a winning one.
>>124410896
>He did the whole rush BoT and get everyone to invade you thing and then assassinated the commanders invading him.
>>124409823
Put them on roller skates and I'd watch it.
>>124410896
Thanks anon
Different endgame but that's basically what I had in mind besides early game cheese assassinating neighbors expansion partys.
>>124411965
Sit on their cap and assassinate every turn while dom killing.
>>124412142
>sit in the center of hostile dominion and get patrolled out
WEW LAD
>>124412358
If you find them early enough they won't have any commanders who can lead troops in their cap.
New game up, entertaining map with plenty of caves and water.
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Gopher_Holes
age is EA. settings are standard. Fun is optional, saltiness is mandatory as always.
>>124412903
>new game
>already has 5 players
It's at this point I admit to having no clue how to run an IRC, and didn't only forget to send the messages but forgot the channel name and password.
>>124412903
>map download on some shitty freemium site
>download contains only the .map file. no .tga
>>124413240
>tryharding this much for some basic collusion
Just use steam.
>>124413478
Maybe that's the sensible option, it's mostly so I don't have to write messages out four times each turn.
So, Yomi/Hinnom/Lanka are at it again. We just gonna have free spaces on the Eastern Side of the map to expand into, or will replacements/AIs be found?
Have any of you autists played Solium Infernum? I thought I remember way back a discussion about it here, and if not it seems like something that could be what people here like.
Was wondering about opinions and whatnot - also interested in knowing what DRM it has, if any (Can I buy it and share it with my friends and all play together?)
>>124412903
>>124413340
download link fixed. that will teach me to google 'file upload' and use the first result.
>>124413682
You can set up a private steam group and send invites so that you have a steamchat only people in the group are allowed to enter.
I only suggested IRC because of the anonymity.
>>124413903
if anyone not in the game is up for it, we can set them AI
>>124414440
ask for subs in thread and steam first, AI-ing them really changes the game balance.
>>124414440
I can do 1.
Give me a minute to set up a throwaway email.
>>124412903
Oh, great, another EA game.
>>124409302
Africans on death watch
>>124414275
5.0 is not the latest.
5.3 is.
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/worthy-hero-53
>>124409302
>Agrees to peace treaty
>Attacks and uses assassins
Also you got lucky with the domspread there, but when you were saying why people never trust any diplomacy, you now know why.
>>124415770
>5.3
try again nerd
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2631
>>124416023
It's not my fault that faglord can't into a simple update strategy.
>>124416023
Honestly, the introduction of the Telkhines killed Ohlmann's sense of discretion and caution and he started trying to use their titan-tier power level as the new standard for hero strength. Stuff added in the latest iterations is kinda busted.
>>124416431
Call out specific instances. He generally responds to criticism.
So what you're saying is you two are at war?
>>124416617
Meant for
>>124415956
>>124414275
>>124415770
>>124416023
I will change the version of worthy heroes if
a) it is asked, and
b) if people agree on the version number.
I'm always worried about the balance levels of mods I haven't yet personally inspected.
>>124416934
Pretty much, unrelatedly want a dwarven hammer?
>>124415956
I offered you a ceasse-fire here >>124386330, but you never ressponded to that offer. In lack of evidence to the contrary, I ssimply asssumed that meant you were going to keep purssuing your pointlesss war of aggresssion againsst me. You cannot posssibly blame me for your own failure again.
>>124416617
Do do not know, to be honesst. Machaka threathened me, then attacked me, and now that he got hiss asss kicked and hiss pretender killed he claimss we're not at war at all. Hiss wordss do not sseem to match his actionss.
I've been nothing but cordial and even gave him a free province before he attacked me, but for ssome reasson he sseemss to have in in for uss humble ssnakess.
>>124417265
>>124416934
The friendly ssnakess can forge hammerss ass well, sshould anyone be interessted in dealing with someone... more reliable.
>>124417267
'Nothing but cordial' You've been a lieing boasting piece of piss.
Given that my post was the suggestion, yours was the acceptence. And despite my agression you attacked in advance, a prudant move but makes a mockery of your tale.
Taking a province I lost to indies and then returning it isn't giving me a free province, and the entire issue over the throne, while it isn't clear cut, paints you in a poor light, one of grabbing what you can when you see the opportunity.
As to reliability, ask Jotun if you need any evidence.
I can sell Dwarf Hammers even cheaper.
13 E per or various other gems.
>>124417817
Would you accept death?As in death gems. Or pearls?
>>124417817
I'm interested, but I don't have much earth (and probably won't until I conquer Agartha). I can send you the 8 that I have, but would need to send you another kind for the last 5. Do you want water, fire, or pearls?
>>124418062
>>124418212
Pearls and Death are both very welcome.
Pearls prefered.
>>124416561
Honestly, the big thing is that he adds paths that nations don't have native access to on their heroes. Seriously, you can go down the list. He's giving out new paths to like a quarter of them. Sceleria gets blood slaves of all things.
>>124418723
Gewd. Expect stuff soon.
>>124418723
Ok, I'll send 8 E and 5 S this turn.
>>124418737
Sceleria breaking into blood is scary. They have free chaff and outside of making more mages don't give two shits about gold.
>>124418763
Alright I don't know who you are so I'll send it when I get my 12D
>>124417791
I have not lied once. Thiss iss a basselesss and unacceptable accussation, esspecially ssince you cannot back it up. Boassting, yess. I admit it'ss hard not to boasst when you beat ssomeone's invading army 230 to 60, or when you kill ssomeone'ss immortal pretender with a humble little asssasssin. You sshould make an effort to, ass they ssay, handle the banter.
I did not take your posst ass a ssuggesstion, ssince it wass not directed at me and expresssed clear doubt at the posssibility of a ceasse-fire. One doess not make a ceasse-fire by telling a random sstranger that you do not trust ceasse-firess. I made my kind offer in the hope of removing your doubt, but with that offer ignored the messsage sseemed clear.
My initial "attack" came only after I had called you out on your obvioussly aggresssive troop movementss, after which you admitted openly in thiss general that you intended to invade me. An attack made after a formal declaration of war can hardly be sseen ass pre-emptive. I do not care in what light you sseek to paint me, becausse your actionss speak louder than your wordss.
You are dessperate to make me look like the bad guy becausse you sstarted a war you now realisse you cannot win. I offered you two sseparate opportunitiess to sstop this nonssensse, but you attacked me right after the firsst and ignored the ssecond.
Do you have any good reasson why I sshould give you a third? If sso, I would like to hear it.
Speaking of assassins, I'd like to purchase two skull talismans to get a use out of the assassins that my predecessor recruited. I'd be happy to trade 7 water or fire gems for each.
>>124420481
Send them to [email protected]
>>124420707
Sure. Which type would you like?
>>124419005
Send the hammers there as well
>>124420707
>>124420767
JUST
>>124420860
>JUST
Uh, what?
>>124420937
Do you use this website often?
Give me whatever type you want the least.
>>124420860
How many do you want?
It appears the indies didn't like Agartha and I bickering. Must be the game telling us to destroy the cancer skeles
>>124421105
2. I sent you 12 + 12 S and D.
>>124421075
Ok, sending 14 water for 2 skull talismans.
Yo TC. Last chance to not stale before I replace you with somebody else/the AI.
>>124419783
Honestly I'm tired of talking to you, first it was not replying at all to my posts then claiming ignorance, then misundersatnding everything, now boasting and trying to frame me in as bad a light as possible.
Anyone interested in knowing what you and I are like/have said can easily look back through the posts in the archive.
>>124421379
That would just leave the two of us.
>>124421172
Completely true, although I might have gotten the shorter end of the stick. I'm in a position that I could reclaim your province this turn and let one of your scouts cap it or whatever. Could you do the same for my province? You can keep all of the items you get too. I just don't want to divert my skelefucker army and waste 3 turns getting there.
>>124421379
That'd leave me and Ermor.
Honestly? Asside from R'lyeh fighting to the pretty much last, fuck all all those other people who joined.
>>124421667
We can always settle the game in the duel of our pretenders.
>>124421804
I hope yours is mobile and can come underwater, mine has a small case of not being able to breath air.
>>124421639
Why does 4chan default your name to the last one you used?
>>124421898
Joke's on you, I have demilich.
>>124421981
Well, we seem to have reached an imp-ass. And I thought MA was meant to have the least demons.
>>124421493
Iss it really that imposssible for you to admit you made a misstake sstarting thiss war? Enough with your accussationss. Go on, name one thing I've ssaid that wassn't the truth. Sshow me one posst or messsage in which I lied to you, or sstop making sshit up.
But fair enough, if you're sso determined to keep up your aggresssion, I ssupposse I have no choice but to oblige you.
>>124422168
You don't have to worry. I'm going to take 3 thrones after 2 turns and win.
>>124422185
You're not the only one that does this, but honestly, I'd appreciate it if y'all could just say "I have defeated your army, so I am taking your clay"
>>124422185
>>124421493
>this is what happens when you ban MA ermor from the game
>>124421639
I'm clearing 1 Province to my south first, but then yes I can do that if you haven't already taken it. The items are enough enticement that I'm willing to do that much for you.
I can reclaim my province on my own this turn though, had some of my ponymen in the area. Would prefer for our armies to not clash again.
>>124422185
Did I say that it was a wise move? Did I praise my tactical accumen for doing this?
"Machaka threathened me, then attacked me, and now that he got hiss asss kicked and hiss pretender killed he claimss we're not at war at all. Hiss wordss do not sseem to match his actionss."
1. I didn't claim we were not at war, I mentioned that the promised ceasefire didn't happen, which isn't even an end to a war properly.
2. Missing out the you attacking first, regardless of it being entirely justified on your part still a deception.
Want me to go further back, post by post?I really should stop replying at this point, but it's too funny.
>>124422342
That is undoubtedly the way thiss will end. I ssupposse I'm ssimply letting mysself get baited too much by Machaka'ss whining. In thiss, the fault iss mine.
>>124422652
I appreciate it.
>>124422462
The same thing that happens in almost every game?nerds arguing that is.
>>124422772
I'm fine with just being at war, as I said from the start. Anyone with scouts can see what's going on and who's got what forces, so Idon't need to respond to your claims of massive whipeouts vs chaff being destroying my only army.
>>124423119
this is kinda why I prefer blitz. Instead of posturing all I do is PM some guy and ask him to attack this other guy with me. it's fun to read the wall of texts though
>>124423435
That's all I've ever done in Pbem and it works great for me.
Simple logic almost always outweighs posturing.
>>124422763
>1. I didn't claim we were not at war, I mentioned that the promised ceasefire didn't happen, which isn't even an end to a war properly.
There wass no promisse of ceassefire. The only posst you made concerning thiss was >>124381243. Telling ssome Anon that you do not trust ceasse-firess is not the ssame thing as promissing me a ceasse-fire. Even you sshould be capable of realissing this. If you wanted peace, you sshould have told me. You never did, sso you cannot claim good intentionss after the fact with a sstraight face.
>2. Missing out the you attacking first, regardless of it being entirely justified on your part still a deception.
You declared war on me in thiss general, after which, yes, I attacked you. I do not undersstand how any persson can be sstupid enough to expect me to ssit idly by and let you attack me, or to conssider an open attack after a public declaration of war a "deception." It iss quite the oppossite.
I would not like you to go further back. Firsst of all becausse thiss iss pointless, ssince you obviously have no intentionss of sstopping thiss war and the claim that you ever had ssuch iss a flimssy excusse at best. Ssecond, I don't particularly enjoy lisstening to more of your pathetic accussationss, and neither doess, I asssume, anyone elsse here.
>>124424020
>neither doess, I asssume, anyone elsse here.
No, no, we love it. By all means carry on.
Tell Me /Domg/ what is best in life?
>>124423435
The funny thing is these things only happen in anonymous games. I've never seen people sperg out like this in Steam signup games, but I've seen them several times for anonymous games.
I wonder if either Machaka or Ctis is that autistic Russian guy from a while back. He seems to fly off the handle every other game.
>>124424675
To cast BoT, wish for Armageddon and see scrubs broken and driven before you!
>>124424782
Has anyone in StaleWarriors cast BoT yet?
>>124424675
to become allies with all my neighbors, position my armies near them, then set myself to AI
>>124424730
No, he has a distinctive writing style.
>>124424675
To cast gem generating globals and Vengeful Water and grow in power relative to your opponents, knowing that they will lose if they try to attack you, yet will fall further and further behind if they do not.
>>124424782
Spoken like a true Undead Overlord
I'm worried.
Should I be worried?
I feel like I should be worried
>>124424730
Unfortunately, it seems there several players who can't contain their salt levels, or can't resist getting into pointless arguments. That or there's one guy who signs up for most games organized here.
>>124425134
Devils and imps aren't that dangerous, but the Goat Sun is pretty stronk to encounter, especially with him appearing during the first year.
>>124425286
I know someone in literally 19 games, but most of them are not played on /domg/
Surprisingly, he almost never stales, but unsurprisingly he does very poorly since his scripting is generally not tailored for what he's fighting.
>>124425406
If I understand correctly most communities outside of /domg/ have much longer turn timers than we do. Still, 19 is a fuckload even if you're NEET.
>>124425134
The Goat Sun is definitely very powerful, yes.
>>124425542
They start with 24 for expansion like we do, but most go to 48 much more quickly and get as high as 60/72 in the late game whereas we tend to cap out at 48 barring specific needs for extensions.
>>124425661
>>124425331
Will I get something cool if I kill it?
>>124425960
I doubt it.
Do I need a lab and a temple in a province to build sacred mages?
>>124426117
Yes.
>>124425134
>>124425661
Do you know if it moves around? Or is it just going to sit there?
>>124426206
Should sit still. Your goal should be to charm/enslave/hellbind heart it
>>124425960
Enslave it with enslave mind and you get a demon lord for 20N
>>124418737
>more stuff
Seriously, tell him instead of bitching to me about it. He'll change it or at least explain why he won't.
>>124424020
FWIW, which isn't much, your posts have been more convincing than his.
I think the goatsun is a sign.
Stale Pan's stream of furry, salty faggotry has angered pankoman
>>124430275
wrong game
>>124430540
He's angry at all of us.
>>124430275
Nice meme, actually.
>>124412903
Hey Stale Pan, are you in this game? I'm considering joining it.
>>124430540
>>124430717
It's the only possible explanation.
All Yesterdays is another massive EA game, with every nation represented.
The first year isn't even over yet, and we've got 3 stalers already. Goatsun landed right between two of them, possibly between all 3 if yomi's capital is where I think it is.
The signs are all there.
Pankoman is fucking mad as hell guys.
>>124431895
>if yomi's capital is where I think it is
It's in Japan.
The map All Yesterdays uses has fixed starting positions, so it's not hard to figure out who goes where.
>>124421667
H-hey, I tried ok?
I just failed hard -_-
>>124432237
you didn't try hard enough if you left before your entire country was reduced to your Capital and you were sieged and dying to the last man
>>124431895
honestly, I think a certain proportion of dropouts has to be expected in larger games
>>124432135
>>124433309
Its worse than I feared
>>124433690
Forgot pic
>>124433896
Nice map
where do i procure such a fine map?
>>124433896
Is the goatsun really a replica of that stupid ass DnD monster?
>>124434767
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buer_(demon)
Educate yourself.
Also, we'll need a new thread soon.
>>124434902
Fuck that's a dumb ass demon
>>124435018
That's just a dumb illustration. Come on, man, you gotta respect guys who know natural philosophy, logic, and other nerd shit.
>>124435018
Baby, you ain't seen nothing yet.
>>124434767
well, I'm a believer
>>124434723
name's in the pic
>>124435424
Ahhh dident see it at first
thanks
Will whoever makes the new thread pls add the custom UI link?
I don't mind posting every thread mind you, but still.
>>124432735
Actually I lost my entire bless rush army due to an assassinated commander and fled into conquered land, followed up by a sieged cap.
This was like turn 4 or something.
>>124436436
Sorry, not enough room.
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>>124435164
Sexy
Any more demon porn?
>>124437684
Ahh well worth a shot.
>>124418737
mehhhhhhh
sceleria gets a hero that gives 2 blood slaves a turn.
there are sites that break you into blood easier than that.
hell there are thrones that break you into blood easier than that
fuck you can probably convince a blood nation to give you two slaves a turn.
Waiting 2 years to empower a scout, and then another year to start having a small scale super shitty blood economy isn't breaking into blood. especially if you have to wait for a hero to show up. which isn't guaranteed.
