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No one knows how to make OPs edition
Last Thread: >>123809530

>ARG Patch
Added The Keeper (unlocked by donating 1000 coins to the greed machine) and new items:
Keeper now holds... a single fucking penny
Rib of Greed
Keeper's Store Key
Karma
Sticky Nickels
Deep Pockets
And more co-op babies, yay.

>Nerfwatch patch
Stopwatch is now only on-hit (still special)
Punching bag can die and has a long respawn time.
Kamikaze is now shit again.
Mega blast only gains 3 charges from batteries.
Alt+F4 exploit fixed.

>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/

FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki

>What's that HUD that people are using?
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2

>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush

>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.
Pretty much a bullet sponge though, so have fun with that.

>How to unlock The Lost?
1. Unlock Missing Poster.
2. Die holding Missing Poster in Sacrifice Room.
3. Congratulations, you have now unlocked The Lost in a fraction of the time of everyone else.

>How to unlock The Keeper?
Donate 1000 coins to the greed machine.
If you're not up for autistic level of grinding, use cheat engine;
1. First scan for the value you have in the greed machine.
2. If only one result, change it to 999.
3. If not, donate one coin and try again.
4. Repeat step 3 until it works.

>The Keeper has no sprite and dies instantly!
Remove players.xml from your resources folder.
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how the fuck do i run missinghud
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>>124053614
Click the .exe file in the download while you have Isaac running, it's really not hard.
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Finally finished my steak, getting to Mega Satan as Keeper was probably the least fun I've ever had playing a game
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>>124054860
I've been trying to do this for the last six hours. It's all I have left. It's driving me nuts.

I keep getting so close to a breaking run, blank cards, jera, d12, 48 hour energy pills but never anything in the right combo. Fuck and its so hard to get angel rooms as keeper. Guess it's time to do floor 1 for hours till I get another swallowed penny.
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>>124055830
Yeah, it's so insane that taking any damage at all as the Keeper counts as red heart damage. At least there's the off chance of getting Dad's Key or a Get Out of Jail Free card
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Everyone is invited to post character tier lists.

>D6 Tier
Isaac

>Great
Azazel
Eve

>Good
Judas
Cain
Lilith

>Okay
Samson? Not sure since a lot of people like him, but I'm not a huge fan
The Lost
???

>Bad
Lazarus
Maggy

>Oh god please no
Keeper

Steam achievements seem to go: Isaac>>Azazel>Judas>Cain>=Eden>=Maggy>=Lilith>>???>=Samson>=Eve>Lazarus>The Lost>>>Keeper
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>>124056836

>I want to micromanage rerolls the whole time tier
Isaac

never get hit tier
Judas
Eve
The Lost

>2ez tier
Azazel
Samson

>everything except bosses is pain tier
Lilith

>I will never 100% this game tier
Keeper

>best tier
Cain
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>>124054860
Join the club.
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>>124056836
>Platinum God Tier
D6 Isaac

>God
Razor Blade Eve

>Great
Eve
Lilith
Samson
Holy Mantle Lost

>Good
Judas
Paperclip Cain

>Normal
Isaac
Cain
Eden
???

>Shit Tier
Lazarus
Maggy

>Platinum Shit Tier
Lost
Fully-upgraded Keeper

>Swallowed Steak Tier
Keeper

>Boredom
Azazel
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>>124056836
>Not sure since a lot of people like him, but I'm not a huge fan
Arcades are your best friend. If you can get an IV bag, you're set for damage for the rest of the run.
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>sack boy
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>playing with ???, get to Isaac for the first time
>4 spirits hearts but I know his attacks due to plenty of videos, I can do it as long as I don't fuck up
>two first phases go by with 2 minor fuckups
>then in the last phase he starts the light beam sweep from the corner I was walking towards two times and kills me
Well fuck. Maybe I should have used that dice room with a 6 before the fight, even though I didn't want to do it because I found Cricket's Head in it and my damage was already doing well enough.
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Why does keeper even exist ?

It is completely worthless.

Not a single redeeming factor.

No fun here, only tears.
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>>124061623
cry some more pls
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>>124058638
>mfw IV Bag + Bloody Penny
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>shit damage
>1 heart
>this fucking room
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>>124061623
the lost 2: the search for more money
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>small room double stain
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>>124066673
But the lost is actually fun with holy mantle, it took one year for eggmund to buff him after it was obvious that was the only thing he needed.
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>guppy's tail
>paper clip
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I'm kinda tempted
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>>124054860
Its time to move on to other games.
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>Isaac to clear Hush, Chest and Mega Satan in one run
>Have the key
>shitloads of good items, quadshot and doubleshot plus lots of damage ups and tears ups
>slaughtered by Hush's transdimensional shot

I don't get the point of this. Are you supposed to avoid it or is this the "rogue-like" elements of the game seeping into the combat? As in, complete randomness.

This was the last straw, I deleted the game. Feels like a huge burden has been lifted off my chest.
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>>124070813
Literally stand still nigger.
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>>124070864
Where in the game do you learn this? I don't constantly browse the wiki, I try to "learn" what things do through the game.
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>>124070813
It's not that bad. Stand close to where he's shooting there are visible open gaps. If you aren't getting hit just stand still until he changes direction and then find another safe spot and stand still. It looks menacing but it's not that bad. You may still get hit but you shouldn't take more than a few shots.
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>>124070930
You don't move at all because nothing else has worked.
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>>124065848
Those fucking spiders. Also the room with a couple of the grey ones that shit little black spiders. Usually I just reset unless I have a good damage up.
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>>124070930
I usually try to move as little as necessary to dodge shots so that was easy to find out
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>>124070989
Nope, you can dodge them, just have to completely get out of their range, since the shots fall eventually. This is what I did every time.
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>>124071083
>dodge them
>just back off
I want to see you fight in a ring.
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>>124060280
You mean Isaac since he does the light beams. Just position yourself near the middle of the room when he teleports giving you enough time to run to whatever top corner the beams didn't start from. You have more than enough time unless you have shit speed in which case you gotta get creative.
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>>124071227
Arguing semantics. "Avoid" them.
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>>124058564
Good tierlist, desu.
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>take 8 minutes to beat boss rush because shit items
>get this
I thought it was supposed to give me good shit
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>just had curse of the blind
>3 floors in a row


FUN GAME


FUN FUCKING GAME EDMUND


REALLY


FUCKING


F U N
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Yesterday I got a room with four gaping maws in the middle which sucked me in and didn't let me go. Only reason I got out is a had dr fetus and could explode my way out of them. If I didn't have that I'd be stuck and would have had to restart the run. I've experienced some bullshit in isaac but that took the fucking cake for me.
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The keeper should transform into super greed when you have 50 coins, giving you a quad shot and an additional heart coin.

He also should have Money=Power
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>tired of trying with the lost
>decide to kill mega satan with azazel
>first devil room has brimstone
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>>124072306
Meh, I just don't go to Afterbirth boss rush anymore. It drags on forever and the items aren't worth it most of the time anyway.
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>>124073336
But then it might be fun playing as him. You don't want that, do you?
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>>124073951
>last run as isaac to defeat hush and mega satan
>get knife in an item room
>brimstone in first devil room
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>Red chest drops on first floor
>Teleports me

Welp.

Oh well, I can use either drop, at least, and he won't show up later
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>>124058219
whats the point of achievements when you cheated your way through getting the keeper though?
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>>124077619
if you can't kill a scaled down krampus on basement I you are bad as fuck
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>>124078250
That's not the issue.

I just wanted a proper deal.
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>Curse of the Blind on Blue Womb


why is this allowed
I desperately needed some good items
Instead I got Headless baby

and fucking Technology 2
which together with My Reflection (fuck you it's fun) caused it to bend around me retardedly, causing me to not be able to hit the middle of the fuckhuge boss room unless I walked up to Hush so I could get hit in the face by all his tears

not that I would've made it with the huge DPS down anyway
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>The Keeper
>Inner Eye in item room
I knew I'd get a tears down but damn.
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FUCKING
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>>124080916
Take everything faggot
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>>124082620
I did.

I soy milked myself and spent 5 minutes on Blue Baby.
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>>124082673
Ah, the classic curse of the blind soy milk
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I can use my D6 once and I have the choice between rerolling tammy's head from a golden chest or another use item from the treasure room. Which one do I reroll?
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>>124072306
What ever gave you that impression?
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>>124084640

LOL! FUNNY XD
Fuck this shitty game and Edmund's shitty ass steak.
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>>124072957
>playing easy to find the remaining items I need
>barely ever any cursed

Actually feels great. I wish hard mode made things harder. Playing easy again made me realize how much I fucking hate curses.
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Here I go
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>>124086734
I Rule with awesome tears, Mega Satan here I come
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does little baggy work with ace of spades to create extra pill drops? or should i go for this fish
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>>124070813
A simple guide, because people bitch about this all the time.
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>>124089348
exactly

Hush cannot hit you if you stand still
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>>124088476
yeah it should
i don't know where you are but i'm guessing depths, fish isn't worth it when you have bottle of pills/little baggy
good luck man
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>>124086978
He didn't stand a fucking chance
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>no holy bum that eats spirit and black hearts and spits out eternal hearts

though for that to be not complete shit, full red heart runs would have to be viable again
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>tfw broken watch
gud run, pills for life
found a black market in depths 2, but in my glee managed to run right into the fucking tunnel to womb, and i had 12 heart containers
still fun
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>Broken Watch now better than Stopwatch

Ha.
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>>124091741
It is funny that someone would think that.
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first azazel run
basement 2
which if any
pls advice
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Why is the Key Beggar item pool so shit? For taking arguably the most valuable resource in game they could pay out with more than fucking flies.
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>>124092462
None look really good. Lord of the Pit is redundant on Azazel, so unless you want a buddy, id say pass.
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>>124092462
Guppie's hairball if you plan on trying to become guppy.
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If I cheat the greed machine with cheat engine, will I unlock everything at once when I hit 999 or do I have to do every milestone?
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>>124093070
Edmund comes and smashes your keyboard with a frozen steak.
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Reposting cause why not. This general is near it's death till the next update anyway.

>The Apple
Gives Compass+Treasure Map+DMG Up+Challenge Up
>Demolitions Expert
Every bomb used increases the damage of the next one
>Angelic Robes
Faith Up,+1 DMG, 3 soul hearts
>Searing Light
Holy Brimstone, Issac fires it from his hands and it removes his face. Killed enemies leave fires
>Lab Coat
Pill Effects doubled
>Strange Tubing(looks like a condom)
Shots can latch enemies together stunning them
>OMG IT'S HIM(Gives isaac shades and a smug mouth)
Upon entering a room each enemy has a chance to become immediately non hostile
>Tremor Control
Charge and Release fissures
>Bounty Hunter
Press space to track an enemy, killed tracked enemies have guaranteed drops
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Is there a way to unlock Godhead with Cheat Engine?

I've put about 400 hours into the game and know I'm not going to get any better or unlock it.

I just want to have fun with doghead
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Does the Black Market deals count as Devil Room deals if I want to get Angel Room to spawn?
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>>124093964

Yes, taking a black market item kills your angel chances.
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>when your doing some runs as he lost and your first two devil deals after the boss fights are filled with spiders, black hearts and imps
>get a joker card
>The Lost vs. Krampus
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>>124093964
absolutely, as long as you pay red hearts it's "devil deal"
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>>124093964

Yes. Anything you get that you had to pay for with life is considered a devil deal.
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>>124094027
>>124094052
>>124094060


WHY CAN'T YOU LET ME BE HAPPY FOR ONCE EDMUND

JUST FUCKING ONCE
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>>124093757
Are we posting item ideas!?
>Liquid Courage
Upon activation Isaac takes a heart of damage, and gets a shield like the Book of Shadows does. Can be used as much as you like.
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>>124094336
so literally breath of life
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>>124093757
I'm assuming there's no more content with patches?
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>>124093757
>High Roller
Replaces Isaacs tears with cards which fire faster and have a chance to drop a card on hit similar to penny tears
All cards are possible to be dropped as long as they've been unlocked.
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>>124094403
Without the chargeup, with a lot longer invincibility, and you're guaranteed to take the damage. The idea is that if you're about to take damage you can use the item instead for a lot longer of an invincibility period.
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>>124094992
then it's not that bad, but still an item that nets you damage wouldn't see much use amont experienced players
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>>124089348
>>124089436
This is somewhat deceptive he absolutely can hit you if you're standing still. He changes direction of his shots, shots can come up behind you depending on where he is facing and also you may just be standing in the way of a bullet before you're actually in a safe place.

Basically once you find a safe spot stand still but yes you still have to move around to find safe spots.
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>>124094672
How about
>Card Shark
Adds +1 to the special item count. Replaces Isaac's tears with cards that can have a chance to have one of the following effects:
>+1.5 damage (empress)
>+2 damage (devil)
>explode similar to fire mind (tower)
>drop a red heart when hitting an enemy (lovers)
>drop a soul heart when hitting an enemy (hierophant)
>homing (magician)
>display a "helpful" hint on the screen (rules card)
>spawn a poop (card against humanity)
>have the D6 + D20 effect when hitting an enemy (dice shard)
>summon 1 mom's hand to grab an enemy (emergency contact)
>1/1000 chance to fire a piercing chaos card shot that 1HKOs anything it touches
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>>124094532

There's a second dlc planned, but that's all they've said.
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Has 1001% been fixed yet?
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>>124097307
What's broken with it? Pretty sure people have it
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>>124097496
The only people that have it are people that took forever to get all achievements. If you met the requirements before a certain point then it's glitched and you can't get it.
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>Encore
3 baby followers all together sitting in a row of seats when hit by a tear they give a paralysis effect on all enemies in room.

>Broken Toy house passive
randomly shows the way by doorway markers which tell you where to go.

>Toy house passive
Will light up each room to tell you where to go.

>Strange Mag passive
Chargable 2 tear eye blast

>Pit Maneuver or Pot holes
Shoot holes at enemies higher luck guarantees instakill

>Plant food active
Brown poop effect

>Fake vomit
Trinket chance to cause a fear effect on enemies that get close.
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>>124094031
The game is punishing you for your horrible grammar desu senpai.
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>>124098034

>Encore
Sounds ok, encore means repeat though so what it does and what it's named isn't 100% coherent

>BTHP
Where to go? To the boss room? To the item room? To the secret room?

>THP
Same as abovve

>SMP
Sounds like a worse 20/20

>Pot Holes
I like this

>Plant Food
I don't get it

>Fake vomit
I like this
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>>124098034

>Yan
Passive chance that 1 enemy of the room will attack other enemies, and have a fear effect when near it.
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>censer better than stopwatch
>no 999 coin unlock
>not a special item

Also i love how after the ARG bullshit edmund/tyrone haven't done or mentioned anything about isaac. No balance changes, no bug fixes. Same fucking thing they did with afterbirth.
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my favorite part of the hush fight is when he goes invincible for 30+ seconds but keeps spitting bullets at you
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>>124098437

>Sounds ok, encore means repeat though so what it does and what it's named isn't 100% coherent

I tried to make a name that would make sense when it comes to stage fright.

>Where to go? To the boss room? To the item room? To the secret room?

Yeah you know how there is a light in the doorway to the angel room after you defeat the boss? well I wanted that kind of effect for every doorway a light that appears, and is the color of the place you can go to. the broken toy house would look like a lighthouse you know what used to guide ships.

>Sounds like a worse 20/20
Strange mag is an idea I thought up of when it comes to japanese manga, and anime when they cry, and whatnot. it's a chargable beam of tears, but with the effect of 20/20 mixed with brimstone

>I don't get it
Think bag of stinky ass fertilizer.
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>>124099128
you mean the fucking part where he digs underground and shits out literally unavoidable bullethell while chasing you around?

Yeah I love that part too.
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>Double Frail fight

Oh wow, that's actually really annoying.

Not as bad as Bloat, but they have a nasty habit of sending their brimstone shots in opposing circles
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>>124100076
yeah fortunately they're weak enough you can usually kill them before its a problem. Low damage though and you may take a hit or two.
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Well okay then
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>tfw seen mega blast more times in afterbirth than brimstone
>almost all the interesting new interactions are for brimstone

this fucking game.
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>>124100771

Has NL gotten mega blast yet? I want to hear his reaction.
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>abel doesn't count for the conjoined transformation
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>tractor beam overwrites 20/20

ed what the fuck
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>>124102161
does it actually override it or do the two tears just fire ontop of each other looking like one tear?
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What if you die as the lost with missing poster, is it basically 1up?
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>>124102854
missing poster death/lost respawn only counts if you're isaac and iirc it has to be in a sacrifice room. So no.
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>>124102954
Only isaac or you mean all characters?
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>>124102954

Only Isaac? Cain with the poster won't trigger it?

Can this work with seeds?
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>>124103089
>>124103107
actually I may be wrong there the wiki doesn't specify character but someone in one of these threads said isaac before. It does have to be in a sacrifice room though.
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>>124069213
That and Spectral Tears. Why the fuck he didn't already have that is a mystery.
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>>124097496
If you managed to pick up every item, AKA mega blast, before they fixed it, you can't actually get it from my understanding.
Because ?????
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>playing as the lost, before holy mantle
>curse of the maze teleports me into a curse room
>"jokes on you, I got the hermit card!"
>get out of the shop
>get teleported into the curse room again
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Kidney Stone + Dead Eye = Fun
I D100'd into this build and it was so fun I threw out the dice. The only downside was that it came with Proptosis.
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Why is the general dying
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>>124103578
Because the Lost is supposed to be HARD
DUH
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>>124106179
Because the expansion was really lackluster, we've already seen everything that's going to come from it, and now there's nothing to discuss
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>>124106359
I find it kind of sad how the Lost is at this point unironically better than characters who weren't even designed to be complete shit (Lazarus and Maggy at minimum)

How will Ed make the Keeper not shit come the next DLC

And how will he make a character that makes Afterbirth!Keeper look good in comparison?
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>>124106638
Maybe the next expansion will finally give us the customizable character that was promised for vanilla afterbirth.
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>>124106894

I REMEMBER THAT PROMISE
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Any of you play Nuclear Throne?
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>>124107013

not for fifteen dollars I don't

do the devs hate sales or something?
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>>124106638
Lost is not better than either Maggy or Lazarus. Lost has a better early game but having 2 health is a huge liability in the late game.
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>>124106179

Nothing left to talk about, the expansion that was hyped for a year turned out to be really hollow and lackluster.

When modding tools come out, if they ever do. We'll probably thrive again.
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>>124107080
The devs have stated that they don't want to put an early access game on sale or whatever. I don't agree with it but there it is.

I only ask because I main NT and I can't get used to dodging in Isaac. I have no idea where the enemy bullets are going.
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>>124107087

>Starts with holy mantle, flight, spectral tears and D4
>Starts with D4
>D4
>That's what he starts with, the D4
>Gets free devil deals
>Not better than a failed tank concept and selection screen padding
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>>124106638
>making keeper not shit
Let him get more than 2 heart coins at a time, give him innate power = money, done.

>making an even shittier character

The Maiden: Dies upon being hit by any enemy attack and cannot have this be prevented in any way (i.e. no Holy Mantle) but other sources of damage like curse rooms/spiked chests do not affect you, cannot gain any further extra lives but starts with 3, any item remotely related to health does not work at all (so for instance Whore of Babylon is always off, grabbing the Meat does not give you increased damage, using Glass Cannon will instantly kill you), can't buy anything from shops ever, never has black markets/devil rooms/angel rooms spawn, and if you somehow get in anyways, taking anything from them kills you, starts with 3 bombs and soy milk + triple shot, cannot do more than 3 damage per tear under any cirucumstances, anything that would modify the tears from base triple shot + soy milk functionality will not work at all.

Guess what dumb bullshit game I've been playing instead of Binding of Isaac that I got into because Afterbirth is cancerously bad.
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>>124107887

what game? I legitimately do not know but that sounds hilariously bad
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BASED GNAWED LEAF
Ultra Greed tried to rush me down the entire fight and went down in about a minute and a half. Nerf when?
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Reminder to sexualize little horn!
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>>124108192
NO
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>>124108306
No means yes.
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>>124108120
>gl+daddy
lucky bastard
i just tried to take on hush with proptosis black judas and an invuln rune, lost with about a tenth of his health left after killing it lives and the first phase in about twenty seconds each
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>>124107705
D4 just removes his survivability. Maggy and Lazarus can up their stats like every other character but aren't saddled with only being able to take 2 hits.
>but devil deals
Every character except Blue Baby can consistently take every devil deal with minimal risk. It's not an accomplishment.
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Does anyone know if the messed completion marks from importing the save/unlocking Lilith actually erase unlocks (or the opposite, unlocks things without completing the game)?
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>>124110045
They don't.
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>fight the Bloat
>lose six full spirit hearts
how do I git gud
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>>124110796
Shoot from above, when he jumps run diagonal down all the way and wait until he jumps again.

Alt: pick up The Wiz.
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>>124108306
>not wanting to sexualize little horn
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>double boss room
>quad black champion gurglings that drop troll bombs when they charge
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>>124111331
But the bomb gurgling variant is the easiest type, they kill themselves and don't leave creep behind during their charges.
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I got Diplopia and Jera... does this mean I can potentially have 4x items in the devil or boss rooms?
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Is there a good reason to pick Isaacs Tears at all? Animation frames are too long.
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>>124112858
Jera doesn't double pedestals, but it can double chests that have items inside them.
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>>124112864
Apparently if you never let go of the attack button with chocolate milk you can bug it out to basically wind up with infinitely strong tears. Other than that, no, it's trash.
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>>124106978
As I recall, the idea turned into Eden, which is why he's got so many different hairstyles. Instead of a customizable character (with certain limitations) we got a randomly generated character.
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>>124112864
nope, it's straight trash
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>>124112858
I just alt-tabbed and accidentally hit the activate button.
Time to ALT+F4.
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Thanks
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>die to devil beggar as the lost epic fetus run

FUCK;LKJDFA;LKDJF;LAKJDHFS;LAKJDFH;ALKJDJHF;LAKDJFL;AKDJF
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>>124114710
if the room is dirty, there is no crawlspace
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>>124114292
Alt+f4 doesnt work anymore.
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>Health Down pill with Keeper
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>>124115745
If you find strength card, it can be used to restore health down.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCJOfXBoorY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAbk4k2BnhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd6cZB6ql6c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6c7l-mHH6A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpdUAFc5uaw
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>>124116083
HOLY FUCKING SHIT HE DIDN'T GET HIT BY LARRY JUNIOR
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>reroll via 6 room on womb 1
>find another on womb 2

dare I? I'd be losing tough love cluster tear bombs
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>>124115334
I meant as in ragequit.
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>>124116083
Stop shilling your channel, Noah.
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>>124116916

>20/20 loki's horns dr. fetus with mega hot bombs

HELP
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Anyone able to explain to me why Taurus isn't working in greed mode, no matter how long I stay on one wave?
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>>124106638
maggy is only shit in terms of being boring as fuck to play
if you can get her fat ass into a couple angel rooms she's basically unkillable (yum heart/habit/wafer/car battery can nullify 100% of the damage it takes)
if maggy had a bit more base firepower that'd help a lot, maybe purity

lazarus was a good idea but ed fucked up the execution
give him suicide king instead of stat down pills and maybe give revived a soul or an empty red on respawn, and let anemia activate on the respawn hit

making keeper not shit:
>health mechanics changed:
>keeper always starts with 20 coins
>keeper doesn't have a normal health bar, but dies instantly when he runs out of coins and loses 5 (10 from womb on) when hit (they are fully destroyed, unlike when you get hit by greed)
>devil deals cost 15 coins (1 heart deals) or 25 coins (2 heart deals)
>hush reward changed to starting with head of the keeper
>cannot receive items that would not be of any use to him (max health increases, health-modifying pills, etc. will automatically be rerolled if you are the keeper)
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How do I get gud with Lilly
I want to unlock those sweet items
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>>124117937
Because it only activates in rooms that already have enemies in them. It also won't work with challenge rooms or Boss Rush.

In Greed Mode, it's literally just a speed down and nothing else.
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>>124117937
Taurus is fucking trash in Greed because it never works because of how it's designed
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>>124118125
>get as many battery items as you can
>???
>win
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Eden shouldn't have a constant jam %, due to how the character works. Agree or disagree?
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>>124117937
Taurus only activates if there are enemies in the room when you enter it.
In Greed Mode you start in an empty room and have to press a button to spawn enemies. Taurus doesn't work in Challenge Rooms or the Boss Rush in regular runs either.
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>greed mode
>curse of the maze
>exit the shop
>end up at the floor exit
Quality game design, Ed
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>>124119065
Dont hate on curse of the maze! Curse of the maze is your door unlocking friend.
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>>124119065
Better than ending up inside the curse room.
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What's that one boss you actually feel relieved to fight?

Personally I'd have to say the hollow.
>predictable as fuck movement pattern
>no shots if you're lucky with the variant
>made significantly easier with poison since each individual segment takes poison damage and he's long af
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>trying for Boss Rush
>necro 2
>curse of the lost
I literally can't count on my fingers/toes the amount of times this fucking bullshit has happened to me
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>>124119875

Hollow is by far the easiest boss in the game. He's a free item.
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>>124119875
Pin.
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1 month later since asking for the last time
has everything been released yet?
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Mega satan with keeper is all I have
>Finally got the perfect run.
>Ipecac first floor.
>Swallowed penny second floor with devil room.
Chocolate milk third floor. Humbling bundle in shop. Infinite money. I can now kill all bosses in one hit.
>Mulligan fourth floor. Angel room.
>Guppy's head with the battery on fifth floor. I don't even have to shoot because all my flies are as strong as however charged up I am. Bosses just die. No holy room.
>Floor six. Fucking devil room.
>WOMB XL LOL NO HOLY ROOM NIGGER
>Clear every room looking for Dad's key or joker card or get out of jail card. Please no.
>Sweep up every room in the cathedral, nothing.
>Jera the chests in the chest. Nothing.
>Key begger in secret room holy shit please, I have 99 keys.
>Stupidly open chests one by one, first red chest is troll bomb har har. Goodbye chences at angel room from a chest.
>Clear every room, nothing, nothing.
>Teleport 2.0 one room before blue baby fight.
>Holy shit can this take me to the mega satan.
>Kill blue baby in one hit.
>All rooms clear.
>Teleport to devil room only a battery in it.
>Teleport back into the same devil room
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>>124121479
You're chewing too fast.
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>>124121479
RS3V
HVXE

If anyone wants to have a fun keeper run
If you don't fuck up and self damage as much as I did you might get to big stanley.
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>>124119875
Hollow
Brownie
Daddy Long Legs
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>>124121856
>Brownie
After this I am always scared to face him.
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>>124121479
Why didn't you do the Angel Room continue shit?
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>>124121415
Supposedly so. Ed joked about there being an unfound ending left but who gives a shit.
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>>124122005
The whatnow.
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>>124117029
ok dad
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>>124122005
The angel what?
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>>124122162
>kill the angel
>exit game
>continue game
>voila, another angel statue spawned
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Why do people hate Lazarus? I've had nothing but good luck and good runs with him, as opposed to a character like Cain or Lilith.
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>>124122381
Jesus christ really. REALLY

I CANT WAIT TO PLAY BASEMENT FOR HOURS AGAIN.
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reminder that ed will never fix angel rooms

they will always be shitty
they will never show up when they're supposed to
you will never be able to reliably fight mega stan

enjoy your three spirit hearts
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>>124122381
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>>124122430
>RNG is working in my favor so this character is actually good instead of just being situationally good
You're an idiot.
Lazarus is easily 3rd worst character in the game.
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>>124121987
What the jesus fuck happened there
I don't remember brownie ever taking off like that
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>>124123076

he sure fucking does

maybe not every time I fight him but it happens decently often
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>>124121987
lol! Wtf
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>>124122381
If the angel room does not close. Re-enter, then there is an other angle. But your trick is a lot better
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>>124119875
larry/hollow (slow, predictable, splash damage kills them easy)
widow (predictable with fairly low health, as long as you can kill the summons quick enough you'll win without a scratch)
turdlings (gurglings minus the sponge power/blood creep)
polycephalus (can be manipulated easily, much easier to dodge than stain)
gurdy (notorious sponge, but it sits in one place and can be dodged easily)
blastocyst (spends more time in its death animation than it does being a threat)
satan (fallen and phase one can be bombed for a gigel and phase two is basically red mom)
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>>124119875
Pin, Monstro 2 and Hollow are all super easy.

The biggest threat is monstro 2 and that's only because of the mosquitoes he spawns
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>play as keeper
>first floor
>soy milk at shop
>whatever he fires slowly anyway
>next item available is godhead

holy shit did it help me a lot through this shit, knockback went huge and ultra greed didn't stand a chance
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>>124108096
Touhou. Someone said it made Hush look like a joke in comparison, I took it as a challenge, and now I'm stuck in what appears to be some sort of bullet paradise in which everything shoots 50 million bullets and you die in one hit.

Also everything is in Japanese so I don't know shit of what's going on, but fuck it the music's surprisingly good and I'm having more fun with this than Ed McMillen's pile of good game design so fuck it
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>>124122162
>>124122359
see >>124086734
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>>124123915
Download an English patch.
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>>124123915
There's a fanmade translation for pretty much every game here:
https://thpatch.net/wiki/Touhou_Patch_Center:Download
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>>124123915
There are times you literally cannot dodge every shot.

You have to use a bomb to get through.

You have a limited number of bombs.

Get ready to git gud.
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>>124123915
Touhou has literally the best music of any video game ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyBamiPO0oM
All the remixes also push it even FURTHER over the number 1 spot.
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>>124124331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5FwAsufdQE
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>>>/jp/

back to your containment board
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>>124124728
As if this wasn't one too.
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>>124123652
Keeper+ Damage Up+ Soy Milk is actually pretty fun.
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can someone upload the undertale music mod to mega or something please
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>>124123915
Which one has better game design anyways?
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>>124123915
The space between hush's bullets is so huge because your hitbox is so huge.

You see that tiny white circle sliding between those blue bullets? That's your hitbox.
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>>124119875
Monstro and Pin.
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So are we all in agreement that Pin is the easiest boss in the game by a huge margin?
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>>124127510
Pin and Monstro IMO.

Pin catches me sometimes if he leaps out at a weird angle near where I'm running.

Monstro I just commit seppuku if I ever get hit by since he's so fucking easy to dodge(multiple Pink Monstros notwithstanding).
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>>124125881
Go ask the undertale general you fucking retard
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Has the giga bean always shot off a ground shockwave along with the poison fart?
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>>124126559
What have I gotten myself into

Why is it so bullshit on normal and why are there two difficulties above that

Did I open Pandora's Box
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>>124129160
>Did I open Pandora's Box
Because you already have a spacebar item and can't be assed to bring it to the womb I/cathedral/sheol
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>>124129043
Never mind. The Mega bean is a completely new item. I mistook it for one of the countless shitty beans and thought edmund buffed something.
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>>124130223
>thought edmund buffed something
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>>124130315
On the plus side, I never thought Id see a bean that I actually enjoy using.
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>>124129160
>mentioning Touhou

You have opened Pandora's Box, and the evils within it cannot be sealed that tightly.
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REMOVE SCOLEX
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>>124131207
>3 charge item
Hopelessly outclassed
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>>124132491
Haven't found anything better yet, and still helps take care of mass enemies.
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>>124107087
Holy Mantle is easily one of the best items in the game.
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why is edmund such a c︂︂u︂ck?
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>long leg spider with repel aura

R
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I just got Everything Is Terrible, what does it actually do?
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Why are dips so cute? I'm not even mad.
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>>124133547
increase in difficulty.
I don't know for sure exactly what it does, but I imagine it increases the frequency of champion enemies, as well as curses and the harder bosses
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>>124133547
Fuels Immigration crisis in Europe, makes Sweden HDI drop to a 3rd World country level, causes riots all over United States, gives control to Cultural Marxists and pushes anti- white male agenda into literally everything it can be shoved into.
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>>124133547
More champions, the alternate floors show up more often, curses happen more
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Bumbo is probably fucking your girlfriend RIGHT NOW.
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>>124133547
makes the game terrible t︂b︂︂h
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>>124133863
what if bumbo is my gf
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>>124093757
>Clipper
A space bar item, it's a pair of nail clippers that, when used, removes all flying enemies' wings for the room, immobilizing them
>Fizz
A passive speed up item, visually looks like a can of soda. When hit you explode, and injure nearby enemies
>Carrots
an HP up that makes you immune to Curse of the Blind and Retro Vision
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>after a -40 streak on keeper, try to remind myself that the game can be fun by playing Eden
>get starting godhead and red candle, and 1 hp
>not a single fucking hp up or soul heart drop the entire run
>die on hush

I used to enjoy playing this game.
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>hotfix patch
>mega stan got changed
>the waves of sins, horsemen and angels all happen immediately before mega stan appears
>the waves measure your damage
>mega stan now has scaling hp as well
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>>124135186
Stupid frogposter.
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>>124135186

>it doesn't matter because you still won't fight him in 99% of runs

fucking rework the angel rooms ed
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Tammy's Head + Brimstone is still the best synergy in the game.
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>get Triple Shot as Azazel
>can shotgun everything to instant death in at most like 2 shots
>takes a good 3-4 seconds to charge my shot
fugg
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>First run of a new game is always the best one

Every damn time.
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Is it really possible to skip an entire boss rush by exiting and continuing?
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>>124137549
you have to beat the first wave first
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>>124136973
So you haven't had Isaac's Heart + Blood Rights, then.
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>>124137941
Let me know when Isaac's Heart _ Blood Rights can one shot bosses aside from Larry JR or Hollow
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>finally unlocked Ipecac
oh baby
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>>124119875
The Forsaken, holy shit that guy is easy.
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