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Evil boobs edition
>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit
>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.
>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1
>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.
>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5
>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.
>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).
>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!
>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
REMOVE GODDESSES
DEICIDE ROUTE NOW
>>123655025
agreed
remove deceiving bitches
>>123655025
>>123655190
Don't listen to them, Revelators!
>>123655190
>>123655025
What are you gonna do? Proceed without exp cards and bonus stats?
>>123655397
junkie whore
I hope in endgame you get to choose between fighting Hauberk or not.
I hope he gets a boss card.I hope he gives you his when you side with him
>map error
>three times
>when awakening
2 potential left for boots, thanks imc
godbless wizards dont actually need gems in their boots
>>123655535
I want a Gabija card, complete with the Riding skill
>>123655535
The game is basically Gesti's kingdom of semen demons vs Goddesses vs Hauberk. I'd probably side with Hauberk if they didn't give a choice to ally with Gesti
>>123654162
>Someone ask to duel me
>I cast zaibas below him two times
>Accept duel
>Win
That wasn't so bad.
Reminder to feed your popolions fresh meat!
>>123654162
>with little regard for honor
For shame, my good man. For shame.
>>123655025
I will join Hauberk and gain enough demonic power to tentacle rape all the Goddesses. It will either be the worst animated H ever, or the best doujinshi in existence.
Priest or Krivis?
Zaibas was pretty cool but its kind of annoying how all of my damage is stuck in just Zaibas.
>>123656584
depends what class you want to go later
>>123656638
I only care about Monk/Sadhu.
I need help. Can't decide if I should go
Archer -> Archer -> Archer -> Scout -> Rogue
or
Archer -> Ranger -> Ranger -> Ranger -> Rogue
I'm really helpless when it comes to theorycrafting.
Help, somehow I'm missing the unicorn bones for Riena Pants.
gone back to check if I missed the quest, cant trigger the abandoned bag
wat do?
>>123656913
first one
Say I do this http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/4006y5h9oq/
How fucked am I?
>>123656913
If you hate yourself pick the first one.
>>123656913
>ArcherC3
Multishot doesn't work with sneak hit, you don't really need the swift step crit because sneak hit
>>123656913
your first mistake is picking archer
Is Wugushi2 enough?
>>123655570
>godbless wizards dont actually need gems in their boots
Shitter detected
>>123657113
Man, you dont really have a focus.
I guess once you reach Fencer, nearly all prior skills become useless with the sole exception of Swashbuckling and Squire utility skills.
>>123657367
oh please, enlighten me what do you use
>>123656913
ArcherC3 is stupid.
It's the Archer Tree equivalent of going Wiz3 to be future proof
Before I go too far, can someone tell me if Monk is any good?
>>123657367
I'll shitter you, nerd.
>>123657728
its a halfassed dps class that also heals people
>>123657728
subpar dps, okay healer. Depends on what you get for c2-c3-c4, which most is priest c2/c3 or pala c1.
>>123656913
archer > ranger 2 > scout 1 > rogue 2
is the typical progression. Ranger 2 will get you decent mobbing, scout 1 is all about getting cloaking (which honestly ought to be a rogue tree skill anyway), and when you hit rogue, the pain train pulls out of the station and it's buttstab city.
Archer will give you a relatively strong multishot and passive crit bonus from swiftstep, but you can make up for having less of that my making use of cloaking to get your backstab bonus, which applies to all attacks.
Why are potion prices crashing so hard? Too many alchemists?
HP and SP both around 600 for level 5
>>123656913
Archer2->Sapper2->Rogue2
>>123657853
>>123657827
So basically, I'm better off going Sadhu instead?
I was thinking of sneaking in a Zalcai buff to help out with the physical crits but if that's the case then Sadhu it is.
>>123657929
I already said it before but potions aren't going to be profitable in the long run since more and more alches will pop up and eventually try to undercut each other.
Hell I didn't even think it would've happened in this beta but I guess the extension and double exp event helped with that.
>>123657975
You can go priest c2 > krivis for autoattack + crits if you really want a crit monk.
Haven't seen enough high level sadhu's in a party with me to tell how it is.
>>123657421
I just want to be a mounted Fencer.
>>123657864
You either go Ranger 1 or Ranger 3. Ranger 2 is a very bad circle to stop on.
>>123658064
>>123657929
same shit as GemJobs
>more alchem
>some of them are fags
>undercut eachother like some niggas
>they cant even jew properly
the Mat for Gems is 3k each. and i saw 3-4 alchem with Gem shops in chan1 town yesterday. with like 9k 8.5k 7k 6.9k
wtf these stupid niggas
thanks BeeGoddess i dont really need much moneys anymore
>>123658225
Then go ahead and become the new meta
Levelling from rank5 to rank 6 will be your hardest challenge Because that's there you grind the most.
I really hope that your Highlander1+Cata1 skills can pull you through.
>>123657113
Costume PARTY!
>>123657113
Lolipantsu's level of retardation.
>>123657113
I'd actually do this just for the sheer number of costume I'd have.
>>123658417
You could leave out scout and go ranger 3 for some of the best PvE damage an archer can achieve, I suppose.
Sapper2 will leave you with gimmicky double-broom build that doesn't have much else going for it until you max vendette, IMO.
>>123658659
Please don't bully Loli. He's going to ascend to a higher state of being in release
I'm paying up to 400k for a superior scale mail awaken on gabija
please
>Hauberk in the Maze
This quest is bugged right?
>>123659068
1M and i will do it
Broom trap needs to be nerfed
>>123659098
There's nothing bugged in the Demon Prison quests
>>123657975
Monk is pretty good, it's not top dps but it's pretty reliable and if you manage to stack stamina you can punch pretty much forever.
I personally went priest2 > krivis > monk and I absolutely love it
>>123659116
>One shot per 60s
>Needs nerfing
Are you a Wizard by any change?
So things bought from the market are untradeable huh
FUCK
>>123659205
>kills entire rooms of mobs every 60s
No you don't need to be a wizard player to see how bullshit that skill is
>>123659113
650 and you do the dungeon yourself and I buy the finished product
>>123659164
I cleaned the whole zone and nothing happens.
It's when you have to push Hauberk into the solitary confinement thing.
>>123659259
Nice try jew.
Zemyna chat is such a toxic place
>>123659259
>sell item to npc
>logout
>log back in
>check buy back options
???
>Wendigo Searcher
WHAT the FUCK
>>123659271
It's fine to be honest, the cd is high and it doesn't hit flying targets.
Why is shota filtered
Where the fuck are the lvl 10 weapon buff jewquires in Gabija.
>>123659279
name ?
It ends the 9th, right? I'm starting to feel ToS's hold on me fading.
>>123659581
There's a level 10 weapon buff outside legwyn.
>>123659812
thanks
>>123659746
Yes. Not the case for me, but I'm forcing myself to do other things more often. I haven't done my dungeons today because I promised a friend I'd do them all with them later, but if I log on now I'll want to run them or grind class levels.
>>123659581
Where would you like a weapon buff shop? I'm undecided, my usual spot at the 90 dungeon is taken today.
>>123660091
theres nobody in fried or klap
Where is that Shanton Reservoir map again?
I have not played it, however is path of exiles temple area (not quite sure of the name) not similar to the royal mausoleum?
>>123657056
please
>>123659529
lewd
>>123660295
You'll get to it if you warp to Greene Manor and go past Shaton Farm
http://www.tosbase.com/game/world-map/
>>123655397
>Giltinė – goddess of death, also The Reaper. Other names include Kaulinyčia, Maras (black death or the Plague), Maro mergos, Kolera, Pavietrė, Kapinių žmogus.[2] Her sacral bird is the owl. Sometimes she was considered to be a sister of Laima (luck).
Remember all those owl statues? They're giving you EXP cards on behalf of a demon.
>>123660490
I mean the map with the underground tunnels senpai, shit's confusing and I've seen it posted here at least twice
>magnetic force
any psychokino c2 here? how many hits it does?
>>123659116
Yes, let's nerf the only reason to go sapper. The archer tree as a whole is full of overpowered bullshit though, seriously. Can you believe I saw an archer actually doing DAMAGE to something? I got so triggered I immediately ran to my other swordsman friends and we beat him up to remind him that only one class is allowed to be useful.
>look at market in fedimian
>can't find what I want
>go to klapedia ch 12
>4 pages of them
this game
>>123656584
well, zaibas at c2 gains the splash attrib
i rather go krivis c2 or remake intro priest c2
>>123657638
red for hp regen or yellow for max hp, it's up to you.
2 yellow gems on your meme scaleboots and you'll be fine
>>123660832
Thanks
After playing through the game's story line a second time, I am 110% sure Laima is evil and the game will pull a Monster Girl Quest on us at the end.
>>123660934
i'm most sure that the final boss will be one of the goddess. my beats it's on Gabija with a 'phoenix ressurrection' armageddon plan to clear the world and start a new circle.
>>123659885What killed my drive is the fact I'll lose all my cute characters when the wipe comes and it is soon.
>>123660695
Archer feels like the only balanced archetypes if they really wanted classes to have forte and drawbacks.
Meanwhile clerics.
>>123660209
I don't like setting up shop in town for whatever reason, it's too crowded. I may be a retard, that's okay.
>>123660865
>hp regen on a wizard
>not buying/crafting your own hp pots as an alchimist
>max hp
>being a "need"
And that anon was the shitter, wew lad
>>123661494
So its not an logout shop? you actually have to stand there online?
>>123659116
>this jelaous of double broom trap
kek
Is it possible to change your pets name?
>>123661650
not him, but i think it is
>>123661689
No.
>someone calls your char cute
t-thanks it's not like there's other 200 people's chars that look exactly like mine
>>123659696
Police
>>123661494
Jude, The weapon buff money is near the repair npc.
>>123660865
Don't answer a question that isn't for you, shitter. We're all anons here, it's easy to mistake people.
How dead is the game right now?
>>123664038
It's much more active on SEA primetime than it is NA.
>>123664038
its pretty much over
>>123664038
Everybody died
Reminder this exists.
>>123664038
Still see alot of people in the 200s.
I'm currently a Full-INT Cleric1/Krivis2.
I have no idea what to get for the next rank.
I was thinking Bokor 2.
What are your suggestions, /tosg/?
Someone told me 7:1 str:dex is gud for archers. Sounds like bullshit, anyone tried it?
>>123664895
maybe early on, but later you'll want to crit
>>123656583
You better believe if I could draw I'd make an alternate end doujin for the Demon Prison storyline where you join Hauberk and rape the SHIT out of Vakarine and the Kupoles.
>>123664489
I thought the limit was 20
>>123664489
+400 matk
kek
>>123665145
Known limit is about +40.
>>123664997
Or you lend your body to Hauberk's possesion so he can revenge rape Vakarine
>>123664489
Even if it was no failures that shit costs a fucking ton.
>>123664213
>primetime
>morning
>>123664489
i wonder how much upgrades start to cost
>>123664614
bokor is a dex/str class, not int
>>123663120
So, you want to receive a 'like' or a "upvote" for your posts? What about a nice profile with your own nickname and avatar?
You're in the wrong place, son
>>123657307
Please respond.
>>123665452
Patk not dex/str.
>>123664895
i go 60/40 Dex/Str with some points into Con and I do just fine
>>123665394
Doesnt a failure rest your item to +5?
>>123665326
That's hot too. I hope this shitty game is a freaking hit on Japan just so we get some sick doujins.
>>123665717
It's already a hit in Japan. The japs are already making their own guides.
>>123665717
>popular in japan
>game has waifu
Do you really need to ask anon
>>123665717
Game needs more hats/costumes for it to become a hit.
>>123665713
nope
Fail after +5 = lose one + and lose one Potential
>>123665713
No just makes you lose 1 level
Item at +9
fail
Item is now +8
>>123666276
Kek, just means that given enough money anyone can actually get a +30weapon
They said I should buy a Legwyn Gloves.
Nah, this will do for now.
>>123666465
potential
hello?
>>123666510
What you cant buy another one?
>>123666465
this >>123666510
Fail when u have 0 Potential = item breaks
will be a pain as long as we dont have a cashshop with "Potential restore item"
This game get any better after the first couple hours?
I enjoyed RO for the aimless exploring, not going through hallways.
>>123666571
yea and how is that any different from failure resetting to +5
>>123666673
It's a hallway game
>>123664997
>>123665326
Why not both? Was it Hauberk and Vakarine that were the pairing before?
>>123666683
You get another 10 chances to succeed on a 51% chance to upgrade to 30
>>123666673
it's just one huge hallway game
aimless exploring is suicide as mobs 10 level higher than you will hit 20x harder than they're supposed to.
>>123666732
thanks anon
>>123666865
who cares
given enough money it literally doesn't matter
>>123666951
How much is "enough money"? Is it feasible to acquire "enough money" with a substantial number of hours played?
>>123666883
>aimless exploring is suicide as mobs 10 level higher than you will hit 20x harder than they're supposed to.
What the fuck. What do they have against fun?
>>123666951
>given enough money it literally doesn't matter
That argument is retarded though, because that goes for any game, any system.
>oooh item is destroyed upon failure on RO
>well given enough money you can just keep buying new ones until you reach +10/+20
>oooh Aion has no upgrade limit but anything past +15 goes back to +15
>well given enough money you can just keep trying and get a +50 item to one shot everyone
>oooh x game has y system
>well given enough money you can just keep trying forever until that one in a trillion chance happens!
>>123665567
So, only pump STR?
Or get full Con/SPR and Patk from items?
What about the Krivis spells that scale with INT?
>>123667189
yes, good job sherlock, i was exactly pointing out that the first post you/he made is retarded
>>123667078
Don't ask me.
I find it ridiculous I'm using level 15 gear and I'm surviving easily on 200 enemies yet before I would get hit for 9k and now I get hit for 700.
>>123667253
Well forgive me for not detecting your incredibly well put sarcasm through the internet.
So let me get this straight, as a Priest, I'm supposed to burn almost all of my money on Blessing?
>>123667350
>using Blessing non-stop for 12 hours costs something around 15k
TRULY A MONEY SINK THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP UP WITH
>>123667252
I did 3:1:1 int/con/spr. The patk came from upgraded weap/subweap
>>123667075
Considering that if you focused on farming rares selling it at the market, then focusing on farming easy to make recipes then farming them i'd say 50-100 a week isn't a pipe dream if you play 6-
8hours a day
Does anyone have a list of Hauberk's crystals in Mage Tower? I think I missed at least one, because I get to the 5f and I the lamp doesn't do anything.
Also, was Hauberk boning one of the Goddesses at one point? Who was the progeny?
>>123667856
grita
>>123667856
Archmage Fire Lord was
Has anyone figured out if Chapparition is on a timer or special summon?
I have brain problems, where's the Alchemist Master?
>>123668267
Miner's
>>123668267
Miner's Village
>>123666490That's a mistake anon
>>123666673
This is a literal hallway game at the moment, we'll see if it graduates within a year but it doesn't look like it yet. Hopefully they'll be adding hidden cla'sses and other fun little areas, there's definitely the graphics for special areas and getting there, they're just not implemented yet (AS FAR AS I CAN SEE)
>>123667856
a lot of people missed one in 3F so you might want to check there first
I finally made it.
>>123668307
>>123668329
>>123668482
>the alchemist master is Vaidotas
EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW
>>123668693
Anyone have a list of where that goddess talisman works? I've only ever seen one map where it does.
>>123668649
Alright, thanks.
>>123668396
>That's a mistake anon
What? It doen't work properly or not buying Legwyn's is a mistake?
Because of magic amp I can't even test if it works, I just believe
>>123668915
The seal of space? There's a lot of secret areas but only a few of them work.
West Siaulai and Apsimesti Crossroads off the top of my head.
>>123661782
Funny how you could change character name and lounge name anytime
>>123667456
I think he was talking about the attribute
>>123667856
>Also, was Hauberk boning one of the Goddesses at one point? Who was the progeny?
We don't know if it was Hauberk but it doesn't seem to be the case, since in his full form he is a huge goat demon Baphomet lookalike, and the one in the stone pictures looks like a cultist with devil-like wings and horns.
I compiled the ones in the Mausoleum, and as the story seems to go so far:
1 - Some Demon (demon lord? demon king?) has a baby with Some Goddess
2 - the Demon and the Goddess meet up with some cryptic tree like gigantic entity
3 - they seem to be fleeing from a horde of hard-to-distinguish beings. I say "fleeing" because the Demon seems to be shielding the Goddess
4 - at 5F there's a huge mural with a last-supper-like event attended by demons, including, to the left, the Demon we've been following. Maybe suggesting he was once important in the demon world before meeting the Goddess?
5 - finally right behind the King's tomb there's this last one with a being bearing the Demon's clothes and horns, but the Goddess' wings. I guess we can safely assume this is the son shown in the first panel, now grown up. It seems to be looking up to a floating pair of gigantic, imposing eyes. In defiance? In allegiance? Who knows!
The only thing we know for sure is we should TRUST NO ONE NOT EVEN HAUBERK
>>123669034
Actually, I just tested it
No gear, auto-attack with 525-525 magic attack + 25 magic amp
My attack range then its 525-550
Vs Kepa (6 mdef) so it's 519-544
Any value above 544 is the +14 ice damage.
And it does happen.
So I think it does work properly
Maybe you meant not buying the legwyn's then
>>123667740
Makes you really rethink your views about silver.
>>123669945
nice story bro
buti do not trust you
>>123664489
And my lapis fail 3 times going +8 nice game
>>123669945
DEMON COCK!
DEMON COCK DETECTED!
>>123670278
That's the spirit!
Giltine is a goddess too, right? Seems like she lost to demon cock.
>>123670558
She most likelyrecieved the demon cock
>>123670558
She has the same hairstyle than the godess in the pictures.
>>123670558
shes kinda dark, maybe she was >>123669945
>>123670038
I meant not buying the legwyns, yes.
Sorry for slow reply.
>>123670807
Yep. Other goddesses mention her too, saying she's involved in the whole demon invasion / world tree mess.
I was told this didn't work. Was I being rused by people that wanted to be snowflakes?
>>123670564
Was I disappointed when I found out cards in this game is the one thing you want to avoid in drops.
Seeing a card in the floor after killing enemies was almost orgasmic.
>>123671061
cards = monster gem
>>123670986
Now find a gold one and see the magic happen.
>>123669945
>a demon and a godess fuck
>tree thing doesn't like demons and goddess banging
>decides to fuck up the world
>half breed son wants to take up on tree thing
>>123670876
don't worry, that actually made me want to test some things
we know already that +8 AoE awaken necklance doesn't work, so I tryed another necklace
Superior Ritual Necklace = +14 Dark attack
Doesn't work too.
I now believe that necklaces awakenings dont work at all, might test one more necklace soon
>>123671158
not so, considering they just level up one skill, and they will be untradeable in the future.
threaly reminder ToS is shit and you should play RO
>>123670986
The day will come when this thread is filled with Thaumaturge waifus and it will be a glorious day
>>123671538We need an RO pServer up for when ToS beta finishes so we can have fun.
>>123671658
Believe in Zinnia!
>>123670303
http://strawpoll.me/6124239
Important poll
>>123671431
ops, it's 15* - still doesn't work at all, no damage bonus at all
And it doesn't even show up when you press F1.
I won't even bother awakening necklaces anymore
>>123671538
>tfw between all official servers the least ruined by cash shop is one of the fucking brazillian ones and I ain't playing that
>private servers are ALL WITHOUT EXCEPTION complete garbage and if you believe otherwise you're just delusional
>>123671843
>there's one person on Demon Prison 2 Channel 2 afking with the thanks macro
It's one of you faggots, isn't it?
>>123672008
>>123671431
if ur bored.. try some bracelets. maybe they dont work too
What SP potions should I buy?
Lvl 4s often cost as much, if not more, than Lvl 5s.
>>123672114
Just buy L5s you autist.
>>123672279
THANKS
>>123672068
Hey, here's someone who's literally never seen a good private server.
Private servers with low rates not aiming for profits can be really good and there have been a few of them that have been really good.
Yes, private servers CAN run into big problems (hurr I need money better sell angel wings ingame and then start adding stuff to slowly ruin economy), but good ones DO exist you jsut have to know where to look.
If I wasn't so tired of hosting shit over the last few years I'd host an RO server myself for ToS-friendos. for 6months~ (CBT->OBT however long that is)
>>123672568
Here's the thing, you can have your dream low rate private where there's no retarded wings, it keeps up with released content and has no cash shop bullshit, but it still will be a desolated desert. What's the point of playing RO with 200 people (100 merchants, 60 members of one guild clique)
>>123672008
the def on wizard bracelets doesn't work
poison attack on vubbe bracelets doesn't work
aoe ratio on grooved bangle doesn't work
i made my plants bracelet into a linne because I'm not a sorc so I can't test that
Consider the following:
>Swordsmen
>Combine Highlander and Barbarian into the same class, since they roles/niches are overlapping
>Barblander class stays R3
>Hoplite moves to R2, replacing Highlander
>Now you can get Hop2 Cata3 and actually be a decent rider
>Extra Peltasta ranks don't actually makes you tankies
>Rodeleros aren't good enough in their niche to justify going Rodelero
>Combine both classes into one, keep them at Rank2
>Move a new class down to R5 to repalce Rodelero
Does this fix the inconsistencies in the Swordsmen tree?
>Archer tree
>A pvp centric class such as Quarrel Shooter has no business being Rank2
>Hunter needs to egt the pet sooner, the minimize suffering in equalizing player-pet level issues
>Swap Hunter with QS
>Now You can get Hunter3 and still have 2 more circles to something that actually increases your own damage
>You can get a level of Ranger or Archer before QS and it's not as much suffering anymore
Archers improved, even if a little bit like this?
>>123673275
>the def on wizard bracelets doesn't work
yep, i got that too
looks like no bracelet/neck work
>>123672568
I remember hotshotgg hosted a pre trans ragnarok server for nostalgia purposes. Started off fun ended up dead like 90% of private servers.
>>123672113
>>123673275
Oh, was about to test with vubbe gloves, thanks anon.
Also don't have Plants bracelet, so can't test with that too, but it's almost sure that bracelets and necklaces awakenings do not work at all
>>123673295
You forgot about switching pyro and cryo with linker and psychokino.
Ah~ I really love kissing anons.
It's the best thing to do in this game~
Anons enlighten me
>be doppel
>punish only hit downed target
>no overheat
>shitty hilt bash has radial knock back
>slow and cancel by movement
>knock stuff away half a screen
>somehow worse than bash
>2buff than doesn't work
>basic attack suck dicks unless meme set+meme dagger
>only cyclone is goood
>move attributes is cd+10s
Tell me why this is even a rank6 option
>>123673747
bracelets, not gloves
Fuck I was planning to awaken my conqueror too
>>123674007
oh, yeah, that, I meant that
sorry, dont know why was with vubbe gloves on my mind
>>123673992
They probably didn't realize that only multi hits mattered when they created dopples.
slow day
What does armor mastery actually?
Something like +1% of bonus per attribute level, rite?
>>123674685
Cloth Mastery, 3-piece bonus: +10 SP per Level
Cloth Mastery, 4-piece bonus: +0.5 Magic Defense per Level
Leather Mastery, 3-piece bonus: +1 Evasion per Level
Leather Mastery, 4-piece bonus: +0.5 Evasion per level
Plate Mastery, 3-piece bonus: +34 HP per Level
Plate Mastery, 4-piece bonus: +0.5 Stamina per Level (not sure about this)
>>123674789
thank
>>123669945
One of the angel-like things in Demon Prison said that "Hauberk was also a sinner".
inb4 Wanting to live with humans and goddesses is a sin.
>>123673797
Cryo x Pyro is a good choice for R2. Haven't played Wizard tree yet, but I do know Psychokino is trash, and totally unnecessary.
Does monster gems stacks? Like, if I get two block pawnd gems and put them on my gloves, would my meteor up to lv12?
>>123674789
Plate Mastery stamina bonus is inconsistent among levels, it starts at 0,2 and later is as high as 0,33
What matters is that at level 50 it gives 16 stamina
Anyone up for 130 dungeon boss rush or merc missions?
>>123675016
Monster Gem effects don't stack.
How do you open the pet menu outside of a town?
I want to pet my strange animal thing. He deserves it after tanking all the Necroventer skills.
>>123673992
This anon here.
I feel like doppel is highlander c1 all over again
5 lv in class and u already unleash all your power
>>123673992
Well they have really good base damage at max (3.5k Punish, 3.1k Mord) but that just isn't worth a damn with this damage formula.
It's pretty funny, everyone was whining about HighlandBarb back at the start but just as expected they're accepted as trash now. They need to either change the damage formula or, more likely, go and give every single hit skill some sort of scaling to let them keep up.
>>123652051
Wouldn't the "best" linker build be something like wiz > pyro > linker > linker > sorc > linker?
>>123673992
Cyclone alone makes it worth it. Better than most R6 classes have to offer.
If Deeds of Valor worked, it would be broken as fuck.
Punish needs to do 5 digit damage to be worth it. Mordchlag is garbage any way you look at it, though.
My guess is that Cyclone will be moved up to C2 or C3 after beta. There's no way they're letting us have lvl 15 Cyclone.
>>123675692
>>123673992
deeds of valor does work, what are you people smoking?
when I'm with 6 stacks of deeds, my stabbing hit goes from 7k to 11k+
>>123675831
It's supposed to increase attack speed. Nothing that's supposed to increase attack speed works right now.
>>123675831
>When taking damage your attack speed and attack are increased
At this moment it only gives attack.
>>123675908
>>123675945
It would be broken as fuck, true.
but right now it's still probably the best self buff.
I feel like these things really pale in comparison to Temple Shooter, and won't contribute much since he's already killed everything. How's Salamion?
Can you aim long stride? I always jump to the wrong spot.
-WARNING, BLOG POST-
Well, this morning was pretty damn good. I finally got my third Rubblem Core so that recipe can never haunt me again. There was just a bit of EXP left to go on my class level, so before I left, I said "what the hell" and decided to top it off. Maybe get more Drake Film. Maybe a FOURTH core.
In the first area with a billion drake spawns, I make a run around with the zombie train. Avoiding hits pretty well. After I make a full circle, I see something. Two of my zombies have been rendered useless with someone else's cure spell. Well, maybe it was an accident. After a second circle, I decide to restock my zombies, then I see some Krivisfag just doing whatever he can to leech off the mobs I've softened up. Whatever.
Then I see it. Blue Drake.
Krivisfag sees it, too. Fuck Krivisfag. There are no dibs here, that fucker is mine. And I would've destoryed it instantly if not for that bug that's ruining all the fun for Bokors. Fortunately, the drake is sperging out and doesn't know where the hell it wants to run/who to attack. Then I hear it.
"Cure."
Krivisfag was the asshole who did it. I did absolutely nothing to him earlier, and he still tried to take a shit on me. His aim was shit this time, though. I fucking bag that Drake. Wasn't even impressive exp for my level.
Then the three sweetest words come up: "i report you" This br tried to sabotage another player by exploiting a bug, and he still has the balls to talk shit.
Also, I got 4 Drake Films in that session. Feels good.
>>123676485
No.
It would be a good skill if you could, but right now it's just horrible both for pvp and pve.
>forest of prayer warp
>legwyn warp
Why did they think putting warps near each other was a good idea.
>>123675169
Thanks.
>>123676713
And then none until ballsdeep into main chamber holy fuck. Disregarding roxona since that would be suicide at that level.
at what levels does xp reset again
>someone lists an expensive weapon with 3 gems slotted on the market for 1 silver, which is cheaper than the cheapest listed megaphone, so it gets listed first
I don't even know what they were thinking, but hey, free money.
>>123676208
Worse.
Get Familiar because Salami suck major ass.
My actual build is:
Summon 5
Hold 1 (for awaken dungeon spawn camp)
Attack Ground 1 (for dungeon aggro pull)
Riding (for movespeed and funsies)
Servant 2 (buffs)
Familiar 5 (because nothing else)
>>123677156
If you want a good laugh then keep an eye on le tos reddit for the inevitable "I listed my weapon to trade to my main and someone STOLE it and it's not my fault!!!" post.
>>123673992
It is meant to complement your build with Cyclone, which is one of the highest damaging skills in the game right now. I would even say the best under certain circumstances.
Deeds of Valor does increase your attack, so high STR builds gain a lot of physical attack from using it, the difference is pretty noticeable.
Double Pay Earn works, but only 1 point is more than enough so you last hit and get the bonus.
Punish is meh and Mordschlag should have faster animation, it does deal some decent damage as a Strike skill though.
>basic attack sucks dicks unless meme set+meme dagger
Not really, it just depends on your build. I think that Doppel is much better for builds with lots of STR, as Deeds of Valor doesn't really have much synergy with dodge builds and it gives you higher numbers the more STR you have.
Cyclone and Deeds of Valor alone make this class a really good pick, and it is gonna be even better when they fix the increase in attack speed for the game.
>>123676534
Good job. I wish there was more we could do the deny those monkeys access to exp.
>>123677147
86 136 186 are what I know about. There might be more.
>>123677409
Alright, thanks. Is it just the AI or the damage of the salami?
>>123677147
This link is better:
http://www.tosbase.com/game/exp-tables/base/
>>123676485
>>123676537
Yes you can. With mouse+keyboard you can aim it, and if you are using keyboard alone then you have to lock targets using CTRL.
>>123664489
Non Alchemists hate this trick.
A Grita
>>123677147
46 86 136 186
>>123677710
>cropping sexy grita feet
WOW
>>123664489
>Kada in shout
Disgust.
>>123677424
>>123677598
>>123677724
Thanks boys.
>>123677710
What's so great about her anyway? I didn't see it. She's useless and I kept clicking on her in the middle of combat.
>>123677564
>Is it just the AI or the damage of the salami?
everything
>>123677601
I found a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_POIFYFIkA
>>123677951She's hot.
>>123677409
Salamion is actually a pretty good addition to your "dps" and can save you from a few aggro.
Remove Attack Ground, get Salamion 1, AG is absolute TRASH. Hold is enough.
>>123677951
>She's useless and I kept clicking on her in the middle of combat.
This. She's the only npc who I wanted to kill
>>123675831
Wish I went hoplit with my doppel. Since deed only stack if u take damage and hoplit has skill to lower dodge. Also piece feels like having a better advantage than slashing with shitty 2hand sword
>>123677710
I need this hairstyle option.
>>123678323
Prepare your shekels.
>>123678323
You don't deserve it.
>>123678291
Yeah, I think Doppel has more synergy with Hoplite right now, because of those reasons and because it gives the Hoplite slash and strike.
While Fencer has more synergy with Barb, as it gives them pierce skills.
Corsair has synergy with both.
When are you supposed to get your first Lv3 chest key?
>>123677469
I might try going full strength some con and use my awaken aston to see if this work. But without some critics rate I doubt the damage potential be any better tho
>>123678796
I got my first few Lv 3 keys from bosses in Kateen Forest.
>>123677409
You don't actually gain any movespeed from riding, which disappointed me.
>>123678269
That made you want to kill her? The fact she despawned if you used a teleport quest return pissed me off to no end, personally.
>>123677710
How are you doing superzoom?
>>123678053
holy shit
>>123677951
>>123678269
>Using mouse mode.
How embarrassing.
Is it posible to enter Sentry Bailey?, it always says the channel is full.
>>123679328
I'm forced to. I'm anAutistic Archer
>>123679106
You do need some DEX, maybe something between 50~100 and get green gems on your weapon+offhand (or main weapon if 2h) to get more critical rate. You will still have a decent critical rate while your white numbers will be pretty high, since at rank 6 you get a lot of bonus points the more you put into STR.
If you are a barb, Cleave helps a lot too, it gives you 10 seconds of +50 critical rate which makes it really good if you use your heavy damage skills right after it.
>>123679274
>How are you doing superzoom?
<HotKey ID="ToggleFlyCamera" Name="" DownScp="_cam=(not _cam);camera.ChangeCameraType(_cam and 1 or 0)" UpScp="None" Key="F11" UseShift="YES" UseAlt="NO" UseCtrl="NO" OnEdit="NO"/>
WASDQE
>>123679274
>she despawned if you used a teleport quest
this never happen to me, thankfully
>>123679474
You're right about the autistic part. You can get by just fine with Keyboard or Controller.
>>123679718
Archer plays so much better with mouse in my experience
Why are us Revelators such sluts for cards?
>>123679895
Only if for some reason you use autos. A lot of the Archer skills work based on the direction that you're facing or are manual selection.
>>123679895
For controller I had to make my own custom profile. The default setup is so awkward. Swapping target lock to a more easily accessible button in particular helps quite a bit for archers.
>>123678140
Nah, I like to control where my summon goes to actually pull aggro without locking him in place. I duo a lot, so being able to actually send my summon to tank for me is actually nice.
I still use Attack Ground way more than Hold.
Salami lv1 is even more shit because its duration is 60 sec, he hardly helps at all, but I guess that's a player's choice then
>>123677710
Why does she have soulless eyes?
thaum is pretty based here
every tree is 19k xp
webm is shit quality and cut off because 3mb limit on vg
>>123680589
Coz she's a bird and birds are dicks.
>>123678140
My fire salamion lv1 loses 1v1 against wendigo archers.
I still have him because he's cute
>>123680064
I have more skills that makes you target an area.Don't ask
>>123664614
Could go sadhu.
>>123680865
i`d give that bird my dick
>SP pots @ 800 shekels
'no'
>Decide to go Priest after Krivis 1
>Its actually not that bad because Blessing makes up for the loss in Zaibas levels.
What are the best option for Awakening gears within Leather? Almost all the good stuff seems to be Cloth.
For an Archer.
>>123678140
Salamion is pretty worthless in most situations. Especially if you are low-manning/soloing stuff you are never going to just stand still long enough for him to actually do anything at all. Your fucking bats are going to contribute more than Sala and you can only call on those every 35s.
>>123681727
>archer
>dps
lol
>>123681727
Leather, cloth, plate, it literally does not matter 99% of the time.
>>123668691
So how's Bokor? It seems incredibly good and fun. Mind posting what all you leveled?
I was thinking about going Cleric>Priest for late game, but do you think Krivis is necessary to get through the tough early Bokor circles? And what's so great about Druid you think?
Sorry for so many questions, I'm just strongly considering doing Bokor3 for the release game
>>123681727
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p4Fp2oeLPr8aY0P7YjcDmodmvcP3bEhexZqHsKio4PU/htmlview#gid=577998103
Fight the system
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/is-there-a-way-to-sign-up-without-facebook-or-google/122217
Remember to trust no one, not even yourself.
So many sorc experts here. A while ago it was archer experts.
Everywhere I go I run into people from /vg/. This is fun.You've all been really fun. I'm looking forward to full release autism guilds
>>123682252
I look forward to release with you nerdlings, too. You're so enjoyable to play with
>>123682252
A /tosg/ guildhall where everybody practices kissing!
>>123680064
it's just way easier to target oblique which is your only skill
>>123659427
>Lizardman Magician
WHAT THE FUCK
>>123681916
I want the 4 piece leather bonus.
>>123682028
I've looked at this, and I already have a 4x Cloth set. This list doesn't let you sort by armor types, though.
So how do I finish this quest? Do i kill more monster? Wait until a specific time? or Is it bugged?
>>123682020
If you're going straight for Bokor, making Krivis your first job class change will make your first 80 levels a trillion times easierm since non-int builds for clerics is straight-up suffering.
However, Priest works way better with what Bokor does.
Also, I expect them to continue shitting on Bokors even after the actual launch. The bugs have stopped being annoying and have become just plain spiteful.
>>123682967
Huh, a repeatable in poslinkis? I missed that.
Is this quest broken?
http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/70125/
>>123682967
this is broken btw
only take ones that say talk to
watcher erra, bokor master, commander uska, sorcerer master, coben
they are the easiest and the fastest
you can get a new quest by remaking the party
>>123683124
it's a mercenary post quest
>>123681616
>no zaibas splash
that's the problem
priest 2 or krivis 2, man
>>123670564
The most attractive piece of pixel ever made
>someone heals me and runs away before I can do anything
No, please wait!
>>123652051
Quickcast don't share on spiritual chain.
>>123681727
This is the dream set. You don't need all leather.
>>123684112
I meant the attribute damage. I need sleep.
>>123684240
Isn't sissel bracelet broken?
other than a blue gem on my rod what other gems do i want as an int class (krivis-sadhu-druid)
>>123684518
It works. The translation is wrong. What it actually does is it activates when YOU miss attacks, and not when you dodge. But the effect doesn't matter, its the crit rate that makes it so good.
>>123684240
this is beautiful. how's the dps of this on bosses
>>123684240
how much is this neck
>>123684654
err, and have you missed any attacks recently? your accuracy is larger than mine and I almost don't notice a miss.
>>123684780
5.5 - 6.2k Oblique shots at lv. 89 attribute. Multishots hit for 4.2 - 4.7k each hit, 67200 - 75200 dmg on 2x overheat every 17 seconds.
Are archers going to be good by release?
I desperately want to play a cute musketeer but the state of archers in this beta makes me upset.
>>123684240
mfw i need to awaken my leather gloves for that delicious crit attack
>>123685067
Beyond fucked in early level, beyond broken at later levels
>>123685010
Imagine Spiral Arrow 100% with it
>>123685010
>People didn't believe me when I said Archer's are top DPS endgame cause of oblique basically being a faster, stronger autoattack with 100% dmg attribute
Lol.
>>123685010
Are you a rogue?
>>123685202
People won't listen. don't bother explaining it to them. I stopped trying to tell people of a demon prison grind alternative
>>123684936
Pistols have an attribute that gives 25% accuracy. This is a full strength build and I have never missed. The sissel bracelets aren't used for the frenzy effect at all.
>>123685202
People just fell for the first week memes like full dex memelanders and shit like that. Mages also have insane dps later on.
>>123685342
What is a demon prison alternative?
>>123685341
Archer 3 > Wugushi 2 > SR
>>123685341
>Schwarzer reiter
Most likely not
>>123685419
Exp/card management from level 1, class specific calculations on where to grind to maximize exp gain potential.
>>123685371
How do you have 347 crit rate with no dex? doesn't add up from items alone.
>>123684654
Gladiator band better?
Is this quest bugged?
http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/40660/
Also why doesn't the long lanky tombstone let me interact with it
>>123685615
Probably just bragging and has buffs up
>>123683476
I'm not at Rank 4 yet to take Priest 2.
>>123685615
Swift Step gives 25% crit rate.
>>123685621
Gladiator band is not better. The 37 crit rate is essentially 37 dex that you add on to strength instead multiplied by 1.6 because of the 60% class rank bonus.
>>123685765
The only buff i have is swift step.
>play swordsman character for a couple days
>log in back into mage main
>can't stop trying to dash
>>123685615
>>123685901
Forgot to mention i have 4 lvl 5 green gems in both my weapons. Its not included in the picture.
>>123685901
>>123686090
You'd still only have like 224 with your gear and stats, am I missing something?
>>123685991
They really need to give other classes an exclusive basic ability.
I mean, other than archers. Fuck archers.
>>123685991
Dash being Swordsman only is really annoying after while. The fast movement is really useful for running through big areas.
>>123683080
works better how? So you think it's a good investment if I can just get past the early suffering?
what'd you level in Bokor?
>there are people that will go wiz3 at x1 exp rates in open beta
laughingwhores.exp
>>123683650
tfw do that all the time
but sometimes i get caught and they like me before i can run away in time..
>>123686327
Other classes already do. Wizards get completely fucked over by the basic ability of "every weapon gives a magic attack with a retard slow animation", Clerics get the ability to heal.
>tfw it's never gonna worth it with 2hand weapon
>less gem slots
>with more gem slots mean more potential loss
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP F.A.M
Does anyone know if there's a way to set it so you can use riding abilities with a controller?
Time for another question that's no doubt asked every thread: How many level 7/8 exp cards are there?
>>123686970
infinite
>>123685991
>main swordie on laima
>decide to roll with mage on gabija
>go into melee atack range and try to dash when dying
Kill me
>>123684240
Whats your damage? Hope you dont suck cock with that gear. Some webms would be nice.
>>123686970
I think I remember someone saying they had 149 lv7. I haven't used any and I'm at hauberk maze (2) with 139.
>>123687189
The monsters are certainly trying
>>123668691
i'm thinking c1 k3 b1 d1 or c1 k2 b2 d1 for hexing(buff cure, zaibas, carn) and effigy (0 cd filler)
however, with effigy being bugged and zombies probably worthless with only magic/ele damage gear I'm not quite sure
>>123685581
>class specific
You, for instance. Where did you grind during these levels?
>>123686532
not that bad if they keep the characters.
also, considering ranks going up to 9, every endgame build will have wiz 3. you don't necessarily need to go straight wiz 3 anyway
People fell for these memes:
>full dex builds
>str is the worst stat in the game
>memelander
>sword2/3
>quarrel shooter
>wizard2/3
>cataphract
>archers and mages don't become any better late game
>full spr mages
>full con swordies
>save ALL your cards until 165
what other memes am I missing?
>>123686970
there's 149 level 7 cards and 190(?) level 8 cards
>>123686320
This is my crit rate with my two weapons off and no swift step up.
>>123687919
erp?please?
Why is Cryo so shit?
>>123687279
I haven't seen any other build with more dps than my archer. The small caveat with this build is that it is full glass cannon. You have no evasion and your hp pool comes from petamion and red gems. You will also have 100% boss aggro on field bosses with 20 other people attacking it once you stack your poisons and blow all your cooldowns.
>>123688006
How's Reiter? Can you give some insight into each of the four skills? Their descriptions don't clarify much and the videos don't really help.
>>123687919
>>wizard2/3
This one blows my sides
Every
Fucking
Time
>>123687730
I didn't do any dungeons since that would mess up my calculations. I had exactly 0 exp cards by the time I reached 200. I'm a Archer>QS3>Rogue2
>>123687919
To be fair, according to the exp chart, I can leave demon prison at 161 with the amount of saved level 6 cards I have. I skipped almost all 1/2/3's, got all the 4/5/6.
>>123685342
yes, there's alternative to demon prison griding, but it's not that bad. the reason you grind at dp it's because of the exp/hour you get.
by the end of the day, what matters if the amout of total exp u need to get to the lvl 200.
why manage your cards since level 1, waste long hours grinding on "bad" (in comparison to dp) exp/hour places just to avoid... the best grindind place the game has to offer atm?
and i'd rather grind with my rank 5 char almost full geared than before at lower ranks, specially on some builds that shines only later
>>123688165
Cryo Linker Cryo Cryo x
Link your icewall (and mobs in groups since Psycho is a waste and linker always stays relevant)
Collect mobs (and pyro fireballs) with Snow Rolling.
Frost Pillar + Ice Blast Spam.
Cryo is underrated in my opinion.
>>123688272
I think people are definitely overshooting the 165 thing, 165 is just the level at which the EXP gain is still 100% (4 levels above). You should be able to leave at 161-162 and reach 175 just fine. Not sure if you'll run out of steam before 186 though but you've got a dungeon you can solo so whatevah
>have to check the market on every channel to find your items
Shieeeet I literally get rectoraped by corrupt revelators. The shitters come in groups of 3 and you can't kite them.
>>123687919
>swordsman class is op
Literally a full 200 swordsman party get no loots in dullahan
Why the FUCK is swordsman so shit. I wish there are 2hand hammer I could use even tho 2hand get fuck over
>>123688264
>dat pvp build
How did that work out for you, senpai?
>>123688576
the only op swordsman is corsair come endgame, the rest fall off hard cause of skill cooldowns and lack of multihits.
though they are still way better at mobbing than most.
>>123688218
Retreat shot is definitely the strongest skill provided you have a wall to run into. It's aoe and does more damage than my C3 ele frost cloud with the same cooldown.
Concentrated fire is like a weak multishot but is stronger with equivalent levels I'm sure since it's max lv. 5 right now.
Caracole has a wonky hitbox and doesn't seem to do much damage. Probably more of a pvp skill to escape gap closers.
Limacon is like oblique shot but you get to move at full speed. The sp drain is much higher and does less dmg. Again, more of a pvp skill imo.
>>123688647
Stunlock crit meele with dagger
>>123688165
cryo is ok, what's your problem with the class? tell me where it hurts
>>123688473
>Ice Blast Spam
>>123688712
Isn't doppel good for solid dps?
>>123688273
I also tested a grinding while not grinding leveling, It usually ended with me grinding 15-20 minutes per map though i skipped specific maps, nuoridin falls is an extremely comfy place to grind
>>123688165
because it's a blue class
>>123688957
DPS? No, cooldown on cyclone is too high.
>>123688712
>>123688957
Yes, cyclone has insane damage.
>>123688923
With tree it works.It's still 3 charges targets multiple enemies and can get to a high attribute damage.
reminder that Cryo C3 is a meme
>>123687919
I still see retards trying to justify their stupid logic using builds RIGHT NOW by saying that the game will have 500~600 levels when it comes out. When in reality we will have a 300~350 level cap and it will slowly get increased through updates as years pass.
>>123688792
>>123688473
Damage, control, really everything, just seems super shit compared to the Pyrolinker I played before. I'm only Cryo C2, Psycho C1 right now so maybe C3 will be absolutely amazing, the skills look fun at the very least, but right now it feels pretty bad to play.
My only real damage comes from Ice Wall and that's on a 1m CD. Ice Pike is nice but it's not enough and my Ice Blasts really just fucking blow.
>>123688473
Why is Psycho a waste? Doesn't Psychic Pressure set off ice wall shenanigans? I thought that was pretty decent deeps when I messed around with that combo a while back.
>>123689019
Good thing I have Stabbing and Pierce to use in the mean time.
>>123687824
>every endgame build will have wiz3
hahano
>>123689275
>I'm only Cryo C2
Faggot.
Cryo C2 is shit and C3 is amazing.
Pyro C2 is amazing and C3 is shit.
>>123686841
yea it really is unfortunate I just don't like dual wielding at all
>>123688473
>Ice blast one has 1 hit
>good
>>123689252
>>123687919
yep, add
>muh 600 cap
to the meme list
>>123688165
I highly disagree.
I have been in a party with lots of level 200 builds using many different classes, and the damage builds with Cryo3 can deal always blows my mind. Plus they are one of the most useful classes for grinding 2nd demon prison or mobbing in general.
>>123688727
Good to know, thanks mate.
>>123687919
You forgot the spr archer meme
>>123689394
And then do nothing for like 40 seconds cause you have nothing else.
The build is good right now cause bosses will just die in 1 rotation, but in non-levelling content it's going to suck and you'll see a lot of mage/archer compositions cause they can get 100% uptime on their big DPS.
>>123689387
You can do the same shit with linker albeit not as effective but Linker will always link 5 (6 with 1 gem) enemies and is useful outside the 60s Icewall cd.
It enhances your other spells and gives you better party synergy.
>>123689387
Psychic Pressure has an AoE Attack Ratio of 4, the Ice Wall segments have a Defense Ratio of 1, so without any extra stats it can hit 4 segments which is already pretty nice. If you are using equipment that gives +Attack Ratio it gets really insane really quickly. Ice Wall is still on a 1min CD though, so it's not going to be up too often and it's kind of a pain to set up while you are just mobbing. Crazy for bosses though.
>>123689714
Why not both?
>>123689728
>Psychic Pressure has an AoE Attack Ratio of 4,
It's 5, but yeah.
>>123687919
>what other memes am I missing?
it's just a beta bro!
Cryo needs lower cd at C1, frozen target should take some kind of dot (like it would add 3 hits over the whole duration), and frozen should work on boss but only apply the dot and the strange damage increase.
Ice blast needs a complete rework.
There, i fixed cryo.
>>123689843
Because 3 out of 4 psycho c1 spells are shit and do you want to waste an entire rank for just one shitty spell whose role can be fulfilled by linker?
>>123690170
Yes.
>>123690240
Enjoy your shit build then. Might as well go Wiz C2 while you're at it. :^)
>>123689728
PP hits 5 walls at the best, 4 if you level the skill to 10+ (like if c3 psychokino was not bad enough)
>>123689275
well, i feel you, man. that's the worst part of going cryo kino, but it's not that bad.
you already have a good spell rotation.
big mobs: icewall + pp.
small mobs = bolt/pike (respec that ice blast out of your build, for god's sake)
another small mob = pp. yeah, you can use psychic pressure alone to kill.
proceed with pike/bolt again.
wow look at the time! wall + pp is avaliable again, proceed to the big mobs.
repeat. also, you can still use letar+quake to finish some things.
what's your level and current gear?
>>123690074
Cryo isn't a red rank, it's working as intended
>>123690170
That doesn't really answer the question. You're still thinking of either/or when you say can be fulfilled by linker.
Why not both?
>>123687824
If the quick cast buff actually affected the power of your summons as sorc/necro, maybe, but if it only works on skills that have a charge bar it's fucking worthless.
>>123690405
Are you retarded? because you can pick a better class.
I want reddit to leave.
game sucks
>>123690528
What would actually be a better class for world bosses? That should be significant deeps gain.
>>123690405
found the salty psychoshitter
So which skills from Rank 5 and 6 classes do you guys think will get shuffled higher up when those classes get more circles?
I doubt they're going to let us have lvl 15 Cyclone, for instance. C1 Doppels will probably keep all the garbage skills.
>>123690581
I'd suck a Thaumaturge's magic amulet.
>>123690804
Sorc will lose the cat and Necro the skeletons, pretty easy guess to make.
>>123691007
Considering how fucking awful skeletons are in the overworld (they're fine in dungeons this would be fine
Reminder that most amulets are meme
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/?edit=of6te8mrue
What should I end with? Priest to help buff my zombies/resurrect and buff party members?
Are my Bokor points distributed well?
Do you actually lose stats points when you use a stat reset scroll? I read some people complaining about it
Is there some way to cancel a duel during the fight?
>>123690074
Dots are a pyro thing thematically cryo can have a shatter effect when frozen targets are being hit by multiple ice attacks.
>>123691395
oracle and rape everyone on duels after u get max level. hex + effigy = complete bullshit since ffigy has no cooldown and scrol can't dispell the curse
>>123691395
Build does not exist!Druid
>>123691553
lol, no. what happens is the bonus u get from huge amounts of one stats is "lost" when u reset.
the common guy see his build and says: nice 300 dex, i will respec to 200 dex 50 str, 50 con!
and well, that's not going to happen.
>>123691569
I dunno if I'm really interested in dueling. Is it useful otherwise?
>>123691603
Druid seems like complete trash besides Carnivory and Sterea. Are they good enough to justify the entire class? One point in Chortasmata and the rest Carn/Sterea?
>>123690074
Buff Ice Bolt damage a bitAnd give it a better animation, make it an icicle instead of a boring light ballMaybe have it slow movement speed by a good amount after freezing. Give it an attribute that also causes attack speed to be slowed by a small amount.
>>123691567
is also good.
Ice Pike is already a pretty good ability, Ice Wall is the most interesting low rank ability. I have literally never used Ice Blast so I can't say how to improve it. Other than everyone saying how pointless Ice Blast is I feel like it's Ice Bolt that's the weak link. It doesn't do much damage, has a moderate cast time, and doesn't bring too much else to the table. A build up burst effect would be fun.
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/ueiplhu114/
What stats should I get?
>>123692165
>sword c2
>>123692072
Carnivory is one of the highest damaging spells in the game.
Psychokino is fine. I don't understand how anyone can think its shit and then also go say all the other mage classes are shit too.
PP is an amazing skill just by itself. It does a lot of damage and it does it really fast. It does it to strong things, it does it to groups, it's less powerful alone on bosses but still strong. Its only downside is that it kills things too quickly, so it sort of feels like a waste to use it and then have to wait for the cooldown..
Swap is a great skill too, although it can't stand on its own. But even if you had nothing else, the ability to swap yourself behind a boss is good. It could use a wider range though, if it's going to affect up to 15 targets, but I admit I haven't seen if it does increase in range. 15 targets is too many though.
Telekinesis is fine. It just needs a shorter cooldown, like 20 or 15 seconds to be better. Maybe limit it to 3 or 4 hits with higher damage too, or give its impacts splash effects. You can't hate being able to hold something in place though.
Teleport is the only lame one, even though it gets you out of being swarmed sometimes. Should just be combined with swap. Why do you even need two teleport spells anyway? Raise should be on this level or something.
Magnetic Force should also have a shorter cooldown to only hit once, but pulling things together with damage is always useful. Maybe making it an overheat skill so you could shoot 2 or 3 off and then keep the same cooldown.
It's a really good offensive CC class. It's too bad it doesn't have anything at C3 worth going into it for. They should give it some sort of offensive knockback attack, like a stronger earthquake or something.
Thaum -> sorc -> necro -> featherfoot is going to be an extremely popular build.
High int summons, swap to con, life leech back to full. Best of both worlds. High damage self healing tanks that bring their own off-tanks.
Balance is shit but synergy is realbut only for wizards
Will we be able to have sex in this game?
>>123692590
>using health and life leech as a measurement of strength when lvl 15 alch pots exist when featherfoot is a thing
>>123692727
Yeah, sure
>>123692590
Why the fuck would you only get one circle of Thaum? If you just invest one more circle into Thaum you get +226 more phys/magic attack.
>>123692305
I suffered through early game when the highlanders were overkilling everything then suffered mid game when I saw how useful peltasts taunt was in demon prison. All this time I was like I wish I didn't take sword2 all the while going c2 barb c1 corsair and feeling like just a barb with inferior seism with a shitty flag and a shitty pirouette. Come c2 corsair holy fuck that damage I regret nothing I have become farmed up antimage the c2 sword especially adds to the DPS because my job is not to pull shit and tank them nor is it to charge my memestroke but to spam stamina pills while mashing the z key while holding down c to give myself hand cramps dealing a disgusting amount of damage. I might literally go sword3 and hoplite1 just to finestra and pierce debuff and use spears because swords not named trinity sword are all ass.
>>123693478
Because sorc+necro summons, or either one on their own, easily beat that out by a mile.
>>123692585
>cd need to reduce by half
>need overheat on another
Yeah psycho is fine
>>123693835
literally everything in this game needs to have a shorter cooldown and all single hittin gattacks need to be on overheat.
>>123693595
That is just Corsair2. Sword2 really adds nothing to it. Hoplite's spear lunge is at cirlce 2. Meanwhile you could have been far more useful with something like peltasta.
>>123688197
The highest dps isn't usually the best in boss battles in mmo. Controlled dps to not draw aggro is optimal.
>>123693595
yeah I'm sure that flat 20 damage addition made your dps go insane
>>123692305
>sword2
Please stop this meme. It doesn't have good synergy with barb because you will be mostly using skills with barb+corsair.
Frenzy is more useful than warcry.
You want a high evasion build or a hybrid build.
>>123692585
my main concern with psychokino it's really magnetic force. they should buff this shit, give it a better duration and some mult hits, 5 would be fine.
>>123693773
Yeah, but one circle of thaumaturge is such a waste. Might as well go pyro pyro linker sorc necro or cryo cryo cryo sorc necro
>>123694228
threat does not exist in this game and I cannot think of a major mmo that doesn't make it piss easy for a tank to maintain hate
Cata bros, you can help people finish the 200 dungeon with impaler.
>All my friends play this game
>Ask if the game is good
"No the game is broken the company cant code for shit and theres bug everywhere and the grind is horrible and the instances are boring"
>Ask why they keep playing
>They say idk
hey i'm new what's the best wizard based class progression
Is it normal to get a huge urge to cuddle everyone when I visit this board?
>>123694715
>Double drops/exp
>Synergy with featherfoot
>5/5 left hand is still a large buff
>Shrink I guess
thaum 1 is really good. 2 feels like more of a waste since you can keep left hand up 99% of the time with just 1, reversi has yet to see much use (though that could change) and both swell/shrink are perfectly fine at 5. Transpose is good at 1 or 2.
Right hand is good, but its usefulness is heavily based on how good Arde Dagger is right now. During full release it won't be that great. Keep in mind we're all basically making twink characters at the moment. Hunting the best low level gear we can and treating it like end game.
>>123695157
wiz > pyro > linker > linker
>>123695157
wizard pyro linker pyro linker pyro
>>123695157
Wiz->Pyro->Link->Pyro->Link->Sorc for soloing
>>123694964
It does you just can't test it on f.o.e's atm since every fight is one big cluster fuck, test it out on a small group
hey guys, that memeeffect of the awakened superior scale mail:
atk on large+97 affects spells or wizards autos?
>>123695134
I don't know either
To see the kinda dumb story? To fuck around with skills?
>>123695225
Transpose will only work well with featherfoot if featherfoot's healing is percentage based.
>Just made it to Fletcher c1
How do i make it not suck
>>123695134
cause it's fun and problems can be fixed!
also the grind is fucking easy as shit casuals get out
>>123695249
>>123695338
>>123695534
thanks a bunch anons
demon dick=conquered
Now time for more Wendigo Searchers
>>123696009
You go fletcher c2!
>>123696009
find a flying cloth type mob and spend 200 hours killing them
>>123695157
Wiz > Cryo > Psycho > Linker
>>123695724
Is cleric healing percentage based? I think it will be good regardless unless it's very small amounts. All the heals we've seen so far are very strong.
>>123696261
Yes
>>123696012
Worst meido
>>123696152
>not grinding out another level or two
>>123696765
you are the worst meme
Reminder to invest 1 point in "Flare" if you're a Pyro for easier mobbing.
It's like a mini version of Swash Buckling.
>>123696009
Fletcher C1 is still way better than Rogue C1.
>>123697002
Pyro3*
>>123697191
No, you should get it even if you're Pyro C1.
>>123691395
>>123691395
>>123691395
sweet, no one said it was shit
that means it's good!
>>123696152
>Actively seeking Wendigo Searchers
Are you insane?
>>123696684
remind me of her name?
>>123697002
range is kinda low. i rather pull with autoattack or Joint Penalty
>>123697438
b-but my exp cards
>>123697517
Don't do the quests in that area yet with the wendigo searchers. I didn't do them until I was level 179. Do Glade Hillroad and those other quests and use those cards you already have to level up so you can do them. They are much easier and more fun areas.
>>123697438
some ppl justwant to watch their own ass burn
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/5aj8re0yy5/
Can't decide on a rank 6 for this build. Not sure if Thaum2 would be worth it and not keen on Pyro3 either. Wish Elementalist wasn't so bad.
>>123697487
Epsilon
>>123697594
Are Templeshooters really worth 2m? I have a spare one that I want to sell.
>>123697857
I see. Thanks for that
>>123697594
Oh, I saw that. I asked him if you scammed him or something at first, seeing how it's trust for them to not steal your card or money. I was always thinking of buying your card, but I can't really trust people. I have shit luck too and probably won't win the card.
>>123697991
He has a maxed out one.
>>123697776
>falling for the linker meme
>>123698168
>can go to rank 11
Oh yes, someone deliver. I am legitimately curious if you can go beyond the card.
>>123698260
No you cant. People here really have trust problems.
>>123697991
I have a lv10 shooter to sell as well. Does the 2nd card slot add stats to main card?
I think I'm starting to get a hang of Demon Prison. It's just boring to grind in the same place for so many levels, are there really no decent alternatives?
>>123698168
>>123698438
Are you guys on Laima? Where did you guys get all those cards anyway to level it past 10?
>>123698412
Trust no one, not even yourself.
>limp past Wendigo Searcher
>there are Lizardman Magicians in the next map
okay
>>123698835
How much con do you have?
>>123698835
there are OP mobs like that in almost all 165+ maps
have fun
Heres a crazy idea, what if they made an Archer type mob that hasHigh hpandpoisonedfreezingarrows
>>123698953
30 + equips, gonna reset for 50 CON after I guess
>>123699019
I won't ever understand people that complain about poison and freeze when dispellers and antidote exist
They're only having problems because you're ignorant
>>123698675
Because it's not Ragnarok Online.
>>123698835
prepare your anus for goblin magicians
and then pumpkins
and then velfigis and sockets
>>123699240
didn't mean to use "you"
>Hey Anon! You're playing the ToS beta too?
>Yeah it's fun! Dullahan hasn't given me anything nice in a while sigh
>Oh... you're not Rank 6 yet?
>And why are you playing a girl character?
>Uh, I have to go my roommates need me... bye!
>>123698675
there's Dina Bee Farm if you're an archer, just park yourself in the center where the mushrooms constantly rain down.
>>123699701
You realise everyone here is a faggot right? Post it with a man next time.
>>123699701
>in a while
field bosses doesn't have good drop from their cubes
I refuse to believe they're supposed to drop something
same goes for dungeon shitters
God, I hope they drop this shitty cube system.
>>123699778
>Has swashbuckling
>we archer now
>>123700047
it's like 0.5% to get something, ofcourse you don't get fuckall.
>>123700172
yes, there's a minimal chance of getting anything decent, and it contests with a almost 100% chance of getting one fucking shitty joke drop.
with a system like this, there's actually a chance of you going through months of grind for nothing.
>>123700137
>Hoplite can now throw spears as a basic attack
How mad would archers be?
Is there any reason to level Bokor's "Zombify" past like 5? I'm not really sure how often I'll need to be using it
>>123671658Isn't somebody working on a ToS pserver?
Would anyone actually pick Sorcerer if IMC decides to nerf Templeshooter and don't buff/fix other summons?
>>123700534
I wouldn't. Also I might not play them unless they do away with the dumb SP degen mechanics. Especially on Riding, for what purpose does riding increase the SP degen?
>>123700513
That'll take ages, nigger.
Anyone have the 2nd demon prison map guide
>>123700980
dont be racist
>>123691395
>>123691395
also, QUICK QUESTION, what stats would I level with this build? Just INT and SPR early I imagine, but at what rate?
>>123698168
See, the only issue with that card I have is that it has 50 exp. not 100 (since cards give 100 exp on grind). If it had 100 I could believe it was done legit.
>>123695651
asking again
>>123700534
Honestly they are going to have a very hard time making sure that every single boss card is balanced. It's never going to happen. they might nerf Temple Shooter but as we get more bosses and more cards something else will pop up that's ridiculous again. Sorc is one of those jobs that's potentially going to change quite a bit with every new content they implement, just because new summons are such a huge deal for them.Watch them shit on Sorc and give it the Shoggoth treatment. That'd probably be the one thing that would turn me off the class completely
>>123700332
>there's actually a chance of you going through months of grind for nothing
oh boy it actually sounds like a mmorpg how terrible get your shit together imc
Only 65 minutes until I get maxed out Left Arm. Now I only have to spend another week maxing out Right Arm.
>>123700534
Yes, simply because Cerberus and Chapparition are still pretty good by themselves. Chapparition's S-attack and Cerberus's F-attack both put them pretty high. Even without dual-hitting Templeshooter and his S-attack, a sorc wouldn't suddenly be crippled it'd just be a nerf. If they buffed either of those cards then it's easy to see them coming out about equal.
Reduce Temple's actual damage value per crossbow so it's not two Shadowgalers in damage, and increase the damage of Cerberus, Chapparition and Cyclops's autos and it's fine. Also obviously fix the two bugged cards.
>>123700929
Riding raises you above several attacks that would otherwise hit you. Unless your summon dies to the attack, you completely dodge it just by standing still in front of the boss
>>123700428
probably not worth it to raise it that high since you won't be making that many zombies out of the circle
>>123701830
how much did the last attribute cost?
>>123701887
Also give more summons sounds like Fire Lord. Not because it's particularly important, Fire Lord just sounds adorable
So what is the veredict /tosg/? ToS is the savior of MMORPG?
>>123702714
It's shit, inferior to RO in every way.
Well actually no, that would be an insult to RO.
>>123702714
Needs polish in few aspects, but a solid game from what we've seen so far.
>>123702714
i want to fuck grita
>archer as my first character
>people told me it was suffering
>having an ok time I think
>get to level 70
>make a cleric
>just 2 shot the first boss with a healing ability
>>123702196
43k.
>>123701806
Most other MMOs either give you some legit chance like 20% or so on the best drops of the bosses, or you get a roll on each one of the drops each boss.
Here you get one chance.
It's like if you went to go MVP in ragnarok and instead of it dropping it's shit on the ground it would drop one cube and in that cube it had a 0.01% at dropping his card competing with each other fucking drop
>>123703262
On this note. Question to the players here.
What was the longest you have farmed an item for, and which item was it?
>>123697594
I'm still laughing because of this, that global killed me.
Why no one teach me those funky exploits man?
thank god for Fade
>>123698721
Nah, they are from Zemyna, they fuck up public boss sheets so they can kill every boss, then pump the cards to the temple shooter and sell it
There are two groups that do this, theirs and a brazilian one
>>123699240
Huh, antidotes are a thing. You never get given any so it's quite likely most people overlook them entirely. Dispellers aren't available directly to purchase from a npc so there's a legit complaint in that.
>>123703985
Prepare your anus for istora ruins sameish quest.
>>123701628
that can happen if you feed a leveled up card to it
>>123704105
you really think people are going so far as to sabotage spreadsheets to get cards from world bosses? something you would have to do like 50 times to get a 10 star card to sell for a couple of mil?
>>123704105
you know if you really wanted to just pump cards into Temple Shooter, they should just make new characters and run them through the Cathedral. By the time you finish you'd have like 10 cards and it only takes a few hours. RNGtrade the Temple Shooter back and forth while feeding it should work
>repeatable quest keeps taking me past bots camping Kepa spawn
>none of them actually pick up the loot
>>123704526
>Saving cards at 22
Literally why
>>123703131
If you make a highlander you'll probably quit the game.
>>123704449
They also get the other loot, obviously.
It's that the card, of anything, has the biggest chance to drop.
>>123704637
Because you would be over leveled for most early areas if you use cards right away
How much would a level 8 or 10 card sell for?
>>123701887
My biggest problem withs sorc summons are:
While riding you're far more likely to die due to enemy attacks bypassing the summons hp and directly hitting you instead.
The attacks (both normal and special) come out awfully slow and are cancelled if you move ever so slightly while keeping the skill cooldown, when combined with situations that they'd be useful (ie. the wide aoe F attack of temple shooter), you're probably going to get murdered before the attack actually comes out due.
There's absolutely no way to improve your targeting ability for moves, so it's entirely possible you'd attempt temple shooter's S attack only for it to fire in a completely different direction that you had intended for zero reason.
There's a couple of other things I dislike, but those are the biggest ones. Also if you removed temple shooters double attack/halved it, chapparitioni would instantly become the best due to the wide aoe swipe.
>>123704637
Its not about saving them, you just level up just by questing. Using the them would just overlevel you. I usually just use mine to be within 5 levels within the map
>>123704637
desu I just save them at any level and when I run low on SP I just spam cards til my character or class level goes up.
>>123704637
Double exp
I'm overleveled just from questing
>>123704637
With double exp you level so fast you will actually just straight up end 20+ levels ahead of the areas after running the lv50 dungeon. Popping your cards feels kind of like a waste if it means the mobs you have to kill for quests anyways will just give you less and less exp because of the penalty
>>123705006
This is the only good reason
Corsair C2 or Doppel? I went from Pelt/Hop2. Honeslty neither of those two really look appealing
>>123705280
You went corsair c1 instead of hop2, so corsair c2 is your only option.
>>123704932
Nah, Cerberus has more going for it than Chapparition. Chapparition vs Cerberus only has the multi-hit S-attack. Cerberus's auto attack is a fairly wide pounce, which matches Chapparition's cleave. Cerberus is one of the few cards in the game with three Riding-exclusive skills, not two, much like Templeshooter. Its F-attack is an incredible floor AoE with a persistent DoT in the area.
His other attacks come out about equal to Chapparition's Chain Lightning (D) but Cerberus also has a gigantic amount of HP compared to Chapparition, Cyclops and Templeshooter and a good STR stat.
Nerf Templeshooter and I'd sooner take Cerberus over Chapparition, as much as I really, really like Chapparition
>>123704449
I'm the only one still updating our boss spreadsheets.
our spreadsheets were getting pretty fucked and they even seemed not to work, many of the normal 4h timer bosses weren't found in the time they were supposed to, so someone was certainly screwing the times up.
And I've seen the circlejerking faggots that used to post in our threads in all the bosses I found.
So yes, I do believe there are some huge faggots around fucking spreadsheets to keep the bosses to themselves.
THE GRIND, IT'S FINALLY OVER
>>123673448
Of course, most people who are going to play one at this point, won't be playing forever for the grind and all that, we did it once why do it again? Personally I got every cla'ss trans and 75 except dancer I think it was.
>>123700350
depends if it becomes a missile attack or stays pierce, single target or aoe
>>123705942
>cla'ss
did you do that on purpose
>>123705585
i know they are
but they are fucking around with necro, cerb, and mineloader
no one is trying to hide a glackuman spawn so they can farm cards like this super retard thinks
>>123705939
You're still gonna get stuck at 185 if you leave now, unless you get lucky with bonuses.
>>123705978
Spear throwing is pierce?
Should I use those 109 lvl 6 cards now with 144 or can I get an advantage if I use them later?
I don't know for example if DP1 or 2 is more relaxing to grind.
>>123705939
>Those level 6 cards
Hahaha, you couldve saved time, and sure you will need to visit the 175 dungeon a bit but damn, seems you wasted quite some time grinding to 165.
>>123689416
Sorry but PyroC3 is not shit, C2 is generally enough, but C3 is not shit. More points in hell breath, lets you have a respectable firewall with 100% uptime on flame ground and gives you some free points for fire pillar's CC. If hell breath is fixed the DPS on it is huge too.
>>123706573
>hell breath
>firewall
it's shit
>100%uptime on flame ground
You achieve that with c2.
>>123687919Quarrel Shooters are worth it just for outfit baka
>>123706237
well the super retard didn't specify boss, but you're right in the card matter.
better to run the 50 and 90 dungeons and you should get enough cards for getting a max level card.
>>123705483
Oh, I see. I don't have a cerberus card yet (Do I obtain one through story question eventually, or is it "I never appear" mausoleum cube drop only?), so I can't comment on its usage. I kind of want to use chapparition (that I have) really, because the aoe swipe seems more useful as far as mobbing goes than templeshooter's single direction double. Does deathweaver drop a card, and if so, how is that one?
>>123706428
It only took like three evenings of casual grinding and doing the quests of the pre 175 areas
Started grinding at 146 or 148, I don't remember
~20 of the level 6 cards are from the merc post missions
And btw, the 2nd Demon Prison is way better and less crowded than district 2.
What am I gonna do with this Sakmoli Gem, I don't have cloaking
>>123695534
>Not taking sorc ASAP
Wow, a fucking idiot.
>>123706573
>>123706683
yea, hell breath and wall are shit.
pyro 3 isnt awsome but also not shit. ball/ground15 are pretty nice
>>123706428
I'm in a similar situation to him, but I'm only going to grind to like 161 because I'll be free after that due to card amount.
>>123707051
Ground 15 is a waste since you achieve 100% uptime with 10.
You absically take Pyro 3 for 2x 5 fireball ticks. You could take something else and achieve better results.
>>123700513
Yes, and it's actually pretty well along.R1EMU
>>123706204
Jesus christ it's second hand nature at this point, sorry.
>>123706935
Well in the end, it depends on how you feel. I wasted time inside prison 1 and still having some problem grinding/questing now at 181, still got around 50 level 8 and 40 level 9 cards though.
How do I level past 177?
>>123707026
Honestly I think Linker C2 will help you more grinding during Demon Prison than Sorc if you mainly solo. It lets you pull entire rooms of trees in the 2nd Demon Prison and kill them extremely easily all on your own. The extra damage from Temple Shooter won't help you speed things up much there, it'd just be overkill on the linked mobs and leave the unlinked ones for clean up, but an extra 3 links definitely will.
>>123707161
i took it for dmg and its alright
what else to pick ?
i dont want summons or pets
elem without wiz2/3 sux
chrono is shit
dont rly like thaum skills
cryo/psycho1 are not so good with pyro. and at c1 they hit low
pyro3 was ok
>>123707161
>Ground 15 is a waste since you achieve 100% uptime with 10.
But you can have 2 out at once...
>>123707560
>I don't like these superior choices and therefore think my inferior choice is the correct decision and therefore not shit
It's okay if you enjoy Pyro C3 it doesn't make it good though.
>>123707560
>believing the elem needs wiz3 meme
What are good combinations for Pries c2 ? I was thinking of going Paladin c3 but now unsure.
>>123706683
Ball 15 alone is pretty tits and will stay relevant to grinding for quite a while longer.
Firewal is not shit at all, go use it at bosses and group it properly, it does almost as many hits as keeping lvl 15 fireball up does to the boss and much much quicker at it too.
C2 - 30 points
10 Fireball
10 Flame Ground (Keep it up)
5(or 6 if peasant) Enchant Fire (Keep it up)
5 left between fire pillar/wall, wall isn't worth it without 10~ points in it
C3 - 45 points
15 Fireball
10 Flame Ground
5 Enchant Fire
1 Fire Pillar
10 Fire Wall
1 Hell Breath (after bug is fixed)
3 points left (Wall or Pillar)
Sorc is obviously best, but if you don't want to, pyro3 is good mileage if not going Linker3
Linker1+Gem = 6 targets
Linker2(+Gem) = 8 targetsThaum1 might be keen tho
>>123707737
It's okay if you dont enjoy Pyro C3 it doesn't make it bad though.
>>123706897
I've never had Deathweaver drop its card, unfortunately. You can get Cerberus's card in either Mausoleum from the world boss or from the 190 dungeon
>>123707560
Going wiz3 for elem is trash sorry bud, you can do just fine with pyro linker ele3 or pyro2 ele3
The only thing wiz3 brings to the table is that damage and CDR which is somewhat future proof, but chances are not worth it.
>>123707737
Not that guy, but there's only one superior choice: Sorc.
It's pretty much 100% at this point that temple shooter will be nerfed, they might also nerf the runner up card, leaving sorc in an area where it MIGHT be able to compete in OBT.
>>123707859
found the salty pyroc3shitter
>>123707826
>everything is a meme
ikr
even if, elem1 is shit
>>123707961
I had just synthesised a deathweaver card one minute ago. Has any sorcerer tester it?
Anybody know what to do with this guy?
>>123708016
ok niggas. sorc is good. but i still dont want pets
>>123708296
Just keep going
>>123708296
Further on he triggers a fight with a large golem IIRC.
lmao
if you are going for pyro full dps, you should take only pyro c2 and go straight to thauma c3.
you u want easy grind go linker, but thauma is way stronger, and there are so many linkers that having you as a thauma AND a linker from someone else will make things way easier. and don't forget that everyone enjoys thauma buffs in any situation.
c3 pyros loses on dps to c2 + thauma 1 alone, just imagine going c3
>>123708720
pyro3 link1 is still fine. i got to 200 fast+easy and melt stuff good
Any decent places to afk farm as a Necro?
>>123708296
Talk to him 3 times.
>>123708720
No need for thauma not that it's not good.
I'm going alch so thauma c3 is out of the question for me, c2 doesn't look great, c1 seems good and the targets on it matches linker which is good.
Taking thaum1linker1 seems like it will be better than linker2 if they fix the gems not working on the second list slots (Can't put in gloves if it lists weapon/gloves).
Probably end up being PyroLinkerThaumSorcAlch as a good option for leveling and usefulness, let someone else do the main linking if there's a problem, your main point being DPS/support.
>>123708296
Spam interact, eventually it will trigger a boss fight. Takes a while.
Looking for a specific video/webm of ice wall psychokino combo if people have any.
>>123709676
No one here has any. No one here plays that. Meme Pyros only.
>>123708910
>pyro3 link1 is still fine
>I get to 200 as wiz c1 and no other advancements
>It's therefore fine
nice argument redditnigger.
>trying to get used to going slow again after being a cataphract
Well at least I can deal damage now.
>>123709781
wtf u even mad about nigger ?
i didnt even say pyro3 is 'best' or 'optimal' or 'better' or anything.
but its not shit.
>>123709939
>but its not shit.
It is. It's a completely worthless rank.
>>123709793I'm assuming you're The Protagonist
If you go druid at the end of your cleric build you can transform into a panto for a crazy good speed buff, I think it makes you faster than a cataphract.
>>123710003
care to explain ?
>>123707850
Why would you even bother keeping enchant fire up? The 5 second debuff only applies when you cast it, not on hit with the an auto, and the add hits do absolutely nothing for your damage.
Where are the best grind spots here? I haven't been here before.
Are Hoplites really shit to go with Fencer? I thought both having Pierce skills would go well
>>123710172
>the add hits do absolutely nothing for your damage
hahahahahaha
>>123709946
>that sp drain
never playing archer
>>123710210
Demon prison 2, any of the rooms. It has crazy high spawn rates, unlike any other area of the game.
>>123709946
I want to see Reiter skills
>>123710156
Read the thread.
How to motto under char name?
>>123710003
It's only worthless in that it doesn't match up with sorcerer which guess what, at rank 5, nothing does.
When sorcerer is brought down a bit by temple shooter being nerfed, although they'll probably just do a wide sweeping nerf and keep him #1, pyro3 will actually be a good choice.
As it stands now if you went Pyro2Linker it is actually a fairly attractive choice as Linker is either 1 or 3 due to gem shenanigans with the level (If this changes Linker2 is very attractive)
Thaum is also a pretty attractive one.
>>123710271
15 fire damage isn't going to magically make my moves instantly obliterate anything.
>>123710323
You 100% need lv.5 alch pots. This is 15/15 oblique.
>>123710172
For the 2nd line on all your auto attacks? That's a shitload of damage even solo, in groups it just gets straight up ridiculous. Why wouldn't you keep it up 100% of the time?
>>123710629
I feel like joint penalty should've had a direct scaling benefit for the amount of links (though this is technically a bad move until you get 5 points in it, as level 1 would give one link, which is as good as no links at all), rather than going full retard as soon as it hit 6.
>>123710856
>autoattacking as pyrolinker
Can't find a Dratt Spear, help
>>123709946
How do you rebind keys like that?
>>123710967
You have loads of downtime where you definitely should auto attack. CDs are super long.
>>123710967
Oh so you're a complete moron.
>>123710632
are u retarded? i do 1200 autos + 600 from memegear, enchant fire is like a cafrisun
>>123711050
for me, not really.
stuff dies fast or i kite them in/around my balls/ground, which hit a lot more then silly autoattacks
>>123710967
>not autoattacking as pyrolinker
come on, thats just being retarded. you lose so much damage by not constantly doing stuff and your pyro cds are fairly long. its not like you are an archer that can spam their abilities with zero downtime
>>123711050
>15s Fireballs
>super long
>100% uptime on fireground
Did reddit invade?
>>123710172
1)Arde dagger, those second hits are stupid strong with it, it adds 200~ damage, if you have full meme set maybe 300-400~, that's a lot for an AA
2)Party with a priest, second line adds another blessing tick to proc it through faster for your party assuming you can get the cunts to lineup with you enough to share it with them.
>>123711050
Not that anon but depends on your rotation really to be honest. I've tested using firewall similar to RO sages in some places and it can be quite useful that way also +25 fire attack, sleep is useful if it's a high density area (think 2nd pison), got pillar.If they're linked and grouped Energy Bolt is actually legit
>>123709946
Archers can ride mounts?
>>123711191
You realize you can auto-attack while moving around if you jump, right? You should constantly be auto-attacking while kiting.
>>123711263
>did reddit invade?
i guess so. all this shitposting
>>123710979
yesterday in Gabija there are 3 of them in market for 150k
>>123707850
>10 Fire Wall
>>123707850
>1 Hell Breath (after bug is fixed)
still shit
Pyro c3 is a waste.
>>123711287
look through the game classes again
>>123710856
And as a wizard, your auto attack is fucking TRASH because of the fact it's a mandatory magic strike. If they changed it so that rods and staffs were given the property of "magic" rather than "strike", and all classes could use it with that effect, then i could argue that you'd have a good argument.
As it is when you factor in ping into the equation, it's near on worthless. It's what makes the wizard blade seem like a nice idea at first, until you realise the physical attack is a waste of time because you can't utilise it.
>>123711148
What level are you at? my half complete memeset doesn't do anywhere near that much for an add hit (~850/230).
>>123692590
and what before that? pyro>linker?
>>123711287
SRs can
>>123711356
i know. i sometimes do, but not so much.
my auto, with arde+memeset, does a lot less then any skill
>all these lvl 200 people grinding shit tier instances for no reason
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU AUTISTS YOUR CHARACTER IS FUCKING DONE GO MAKE A NEW ONE OR STOP PLAYING
USELESS FUCKING AUTISTS
>>123711263
That's 15s where you don't have anything to do. What are you going to do, run in circles and look at the pretty numbers? If you auto attack while your CDs are going shit will die faster, that's all there is to it.
>>123711457
Wizard autos are all considered magical. In the question of this particular argument with Enchant Fire they are actually Fire property as well.
>>123710361
Short vid, getting killed by upload limit.
how hard is to understand that what u gain from pyro c3 is way weaker than your c2 ball/ground with +300/500/800 matk from thauma's ranks?
>>123711415
You still haven't given a legitimate reason as to why where as I have given several reasons as to wh it's not.
Firewall melts bosses the CD isn't terrible
Hell Breath ticking 4 times a second is insane damage, only big issue is the bug and CD
>>123711560
What a fucking moron you are
>>123711683
>where as I have given several reasons
Haven't seen one yet. But try harder pyro3 shitter.
>>123711721
THERE
IS
NOTHING
TO
DO
YOUR
CHARACTER
IS
FUCKING
FINISHED
OVER
FINITO
GO
DO
SOMETHING
ELSE
AUTIST
SHITSTAIN
What is the minimum lvl for demon prison 2 groups?
>>123711671
where did i say pyro3 is better then thaum ? its not. but its not shit
>>123711730
I literally just did in that post.
Please stop this bullshit.
>3man the level 175 dungeon twice at level 175
>only gained 1 level
IMC is going to pay for this
>>123711913
>but its not shit
it is though. Stop trying to say otherwise. It's completely worthless.
>>123711969
It's shit m8. accept it.
What does it say about a person if they're wearing a costume that shows their feet?
>>123711457
Not that guy, but I have the full memeset (except neck, I have a Max Peta instead because of Sorc) and my autos on the average mob without party do around 1200+580.
I mean autos aren't super amazing compared to your actual spells, sure, but when I linked everything up and my Fireball, Flame Ground, Fire Pillar, my bats, and Temple Shooter's S Skill are all on CD there is literally nothing else I can do anymore. If you are going through dungeons quickly and don't rest after every pull that will quite often be the case. Your autos are nothing to scoff at, they might only do half of what Temple Shooter's hit for but that still speeds shit up
>>123712085
why is it shit
>its not better then x
does not make it shit
>x is better
does not make it shit
>x gives more
does not make it shit
tell what is bad about it ? if you can
>>123711913
If it isn't 100% optimal, its shit.
Haven't you learned this by now?
Who invited reddit in here? All this shitposting.
>>123712268
You already stated 3 reasons why it's shit. Good job. You finally accepted it.
What do I do in this quest? The guy it says you're supposed to protect so he can remove the barrier does nothing. He just sits there.
>>123712380
no nigga
>>123712369
ikr
>>123712450
fuck off redditnigger
>>123710217
Fencer can be anything on its own, it doesn't matter what you take before. Stabbing and Pierce might be good with Attaque Coqulle
is Quarrel shooter as bad as everyone says?
Pavise and that ranged stun seem legit as fuck.
Does the shield block magical attacks?
>>123712436
It bugs out pretty often, just abandon the quest and redo it.
Why do you guys choose to play as filthy whores instead of cuteboys?
>>123712604
everything is bad and shit and a meme
>>123712268
>I'm taking an entire rank so I can have 5 more skill points in fireball
>pyro c3 is legit good xD
I want reddit to leave.
>>123712034
2man next
you're in for a surprise.
>>123711623
How long does Retreat shot actually last?
>>123712687
Don't forget stacking flame grounds
>>123712687
> xD
>I want reddit to leave.
yes, you better go back to reddit
>>123712754
For 5 seconds. Awesome!
>>123712818
Fuck off redditnigger.
>147 lvl 7 cards
i missed something?
>>123711815
>>123711560
Daijoubo~
>>123712648
My character isn't filthy
>>123712034
Every person in a party adds an extra +50% exp to every mob but since it then gets split evenly you will actually get much less. You are only getting 66% of the exp you would solo with 3 people. That place is super easy for almost every class too, just fucking solo it
>>123712883
Fuck off redditnigger.
>>123712754
i dont even care about that
>>123712883
>implying +skills doesn't exist
>>123713041
>that you can use with c2 and get the same benefit
Thanks for proving my point.
Druid GET
What are some fun transformations? I could the Panto can run really fast
Now that the dust has settled, can we fucking make some goddamn chart that ranks classes in tiers, judges their earlgame/lategame potential etc etc
>>123713234
nope
>>123713210
>and get the same benefit
Technically, but not functionally. Thank you for not understanding how the game works in practice, only on paper.
>>123713234
lol this nigga
>>123710039Can't a guy animepost in peace?
>>123713223
I heard the Panto*
>>123713371
Thanks for proving my point that you have no clue how the game works.
Now fuck off to >>>/reddit/
>>123713234
Considering most people here don't even understand how any of the classes work, it'd be a clusterfuck.
If you link 5-6 enemies, then cast swell body on one, do they all get affected by it?
>>123713453
>he thinks 2 seconds of overlap is the same as 7 seconds
kekleos
guys, help, a good place to grind lv 185
my friend's stuck and I want to help her
>>123713629
yes
>>123713223
red panto
>>123713642
>7 seconds
Wait, you went Pyro c3?
KEK
When will we start seeing remixes and rearranges of this game's soundtrack?
>>123713695
>a good place to grind lv 185
dude 175 instance roflmao
haha only 2 per day :D
save up le cards xD
>>123713695
>her
yeah fuck off
>>123713746
Where does one find this monster?
>>123713742
So basically the ideal combo would be something like linker3 thaum+rogue2 (for that super backstab one hit damage overkill) or doppel for max exp?
>>123703131
Archers are bullshit until Rank 5
>>123713787
solo the 175
good exp
even before 2x event
or Roxona Market. Roxo West/East
>>123713234
>my build > your build
>>123714167
Why do you always play hard to get?
Just fucking erp already you double slut.
>>123713695
>she didn't save cards
kek
>>123713875
the regular Panto works, just go to Strautas Gorge and transform one on Megusta Slope
>>123709946
>All that potential
>Didn't pick Ranger C3 master race
>he hasn't kissed yet
Holy shit, people. What were you going to do if there was no extension?
How do people make custom character titles?
>>123714426
Party names?
>>123714387
Be just like I am in real life.
>>123714387
I was planning to find a different MMO to kiss in and never let anyone know. Still probably not going to kiss in ToS, not the beta at least.
>>123714387
Not be a fucking gay roleplaying slut in an online video game? Probably just go on about my business as usual, comfortable with the fact that even if my life is fucking terrible, at least I don't hold any value in pretending MMO roleplaying relationships mean anything. I don't understand how you get any enjoyment at fucking bowing at someone's avatar online and pretending to kiss.
>>123714808
You're reading deeper into this than anyone else in the thread.
>Pixels are doing something so it means there's a relationship
Druid is pretty underwhelming. It wasn't what I thought it would be at all.
>>123714926
Then why are you asking me how I'm going to deal with my lack of a pixel relationship? You already know that answer you fucking (You) baiting piece of shit.
>>123715028
Wrong person, genius. Just because someone calls you a fucking idiot doesn't mean they're the person you were responding to
>>123712746
It lasts 10 secs at max level
>>123715083
What does it matter? One kissposting retard is no better than another.
>>123714270
She said she just wanted rank 6, then she used all lv 163.
Now she's stuck at 185 60% and need to grind to get to 186
>>123715181
>Implying I'm a kissposter
No, you're just stupid enough to imply pixels "kissing" means there's a roleplaying relationship.
>>123715183
>>123714159
40% at 185 isn't even much
>>123714808
>this mad that he couldn't find someone to kiss yet
>>123715083
Well, not that guy, but you're the one defending some insane ERPers for no fucking reason.
>>123713695
Solo/Duo the Lv175 Instance or just grind in that crypt with the Candle Spiders. Just one level until the exp curve resets so it isn't going to take long though. Maybe a couple hours of actual grind, probably a tiny bit more than Demon Prison would have taken but not much.
>>123715364
I'm not defending anyone, I'm calling anyone that seriously sees pixels kissing as "roleplaying relationships" an idiot
>ERPers
Things seem to have escalated real quickly
As I said, you guys are the ones reading more into the stupid act of "kissing" someone else in this game than even the people posting about it
>>123715264
If you don't think that the kissposting is just thinly-veiled ERP then I guess we can just agree to disagree.
>>123715287
I know, just thought that could be a good place or something.
Well, whatever then
>>123715396
Oh, nice, thanks
>>123715532
>>123715264
are you saying those people are just pretending to be erpers then?
because to start with, to interpret that gesture as kissing isn't normal.
Are there any other Armor-y helmets like Gilt? I'm so sick of it
>>123715596
It's cuteposting. Kissing in this game is cute.
Now if you want to get erotic, you can bend yourself over ledges or against walls and someone can do "that" with you.
>>123715834
>Do a gesture close to another character
>Call it kissing
>They go about their business after making a single post calling it a kiss
>You guys argue they're ERPers
Look, somewhere in this you've escalated things and not them
>>123711407
Fuck. There's one up for 300k at the moment. I guess that's a ripoff
Why the fuck did the thread suddenly just go to shit? Who are all these shitposters?
Are there any auto clickers or something that people are using? I keep seeing sorcs auto pot.
>>123715834
other anon here
>interpret that gesture as kissing isn't normal
>isn't normal
>isn't normal
>isn't normal
>isn't normal
AYY LMAO
>>123713234
Most classes have some mechanics that you don'tknow about until you pick the class and little subtle parts to how they play, unless you have played most of the classes a ranking is going to be in most cases false, in the best cases still a bit off.
There's also a large difference in classes and what you picked up to it, it's almost pointless to attempt a serious ranking.
>>123715532
>They go about their business after making a single post calling it a kiss
Are you fucking shitting me right now? They shit up every single thread every day.
>>123716225
Each poster that does it makes very few posts compared to the other 740+ posts in a given thread.
>>123714387 made one post and if you seriously don't think >>123714808 is an overreaction created by actually calling pixels "kissing" an "MMO roleplaying relationship" then I don't even know what to tell you
>>123713629
No, but if you group them up you're probably going to hit them all with the aoe of swell body, given it's high enough rank.
Does anyone have any info on the new classes? What do they do?
magic autoatk test
target: siaulogre: lv 161 184 mdef
i'm level 166 and my matk is: 767 (no magic amplify for acc test)
with some memegear: + 214/+45/+42 and +9 from cryo rod mastery
results:
>870 auto
>1044 with letargy (looks like the attrib only works for the first 20%)
>1218 with frozen status
>1392 with frozen and letargy
just for information
>>123716636
Back to reddit, ok?
>>123713234
My wizard rank, since it's the only shit I know
Templeshooter > pyromancer > sorcerer > linker > alchemist > thaumaturge > elementalist > necromancer > cryomancer > psychokino > wizard > chronomancer
That's ranking everything: damage, utility, support, how it handles solo/party play, necessity of niche builds, etc
I'm only not sure about necromancer though. And cryomancer is a special case, if cryo3 it goes up 2 ranks.
Elementalist is obviously 3
>>123715834
>two players make an effort to line up with each other and use a gesture to make their lips touch
>interpret that as kissing isn't normal.
What?
>>123716014
>They go about their business after making a single post calling it a kiss
If only, I wouldn't give two shits about this.
but it's in every single thread.
Considering it's always the same people in this general, no, it's not a single post.
Thaum is one of the most balanced classes in the game. Discuss.
Semen Demon Miku
>>123716791
Necromancer's Decay reduces the target's maximum HP, and merely summoning Shoggoth is a guaranteed application of it, with Flesh Cannon having a chance to inflict it on every hit of its attack and Dirty Pole having the ability to inflict it, too. Just Decay's existence should raise Necromancer.
>>123716860
>but it's in every single thread.
Pretty sure that didn't change anything. A single post in a thread is a single post in a thread. Multiple posts in a thread are multiple posts in a thread. Multiple posters in a day are not multiple posts in a thread. I don't see you complaining when I call Thaumaturges waifus almost every thread
>>123716791
>elementalist
>above cryo
>linker below anything
>sorc without templeshooter above linker or alch
>necro below ele
There's so many more may may arroz I could toss out but nigga you FUCKED UP
Red or Yellow gems for top and pantsu?
>>123717171
you're alone on your stupid posting about thaumaturges.
they're not.
big difference.
>>123717572
But it's always the same poster, just like it's always the same posters there. Just because there are multiple doesn't change what I mentioned just now. A single post is a single post. Whether three people make one post each, each person still made one post. Nothing changed
>>123717708
so many words, yet they mean nothing.
what are you even trying to argue here anymore?
well, shouldn't expect much from someone that's taking writing about thaumaturges in every thread as some kind of job.
>>123718072
>They go about their business after making a single post calling it a kiss
>Considering it's always the same people in this general, no, it's not a single post.
>A single post in a thread is a single post in a thread.
Your argument ended up being "multiple people do it, so even though the other point was referring to individuals it's multiple posts"
My response was that nothing changed; one person making one post is still one individual making a single post. And it being repeated does nothing to change it. It's still one post and then that person usually runs off doing their own thing while the other 749 posts in the thread exist. Even in this thread, the aforementioned poster was still 1/793 (this post included)
>shouldn't expect much from someone that's taking writing about thaumaturges in every thread as some kind of job.
You already know what could be said to this.
>>123718606
You didn't answer why polluting threads with inane bullshit that means nothing is okay.
and multiple posters is still a problem, after all the kissing thing got to where it is because it does make up for a big chunk of what's posted in here.
And neither about the erping stuff, after all, just because they don't do it in the thread, doesn't mean they don't do it in the game, and I don't think I need to remind you about one single retarded attention seeking white haired cleric.
>>123719328
>doesn't mean they don't do it in the game
I shouldn't really need to remind you of how this chat works or what it censors. If you truly believe someone posting two characters kissing, if even that and not just posting it one time, means they're ERPing then yeah you're reading further into it than anyone else does.
>because it does make up for a big chunk of what's posted in here.
Go back through these 795 posts anytime you want and identify this big chunk. If you don't want such an isolated example, go to the previous thread and do the same. Then again to another. When you get back, remind me of how big that chunk is.
You are exaggerating and you're so fucking determined to claim you aren't that you're making ridiculous claims to support yourself
that's how "1circle" ranks:
linker>TEMPLESHOOTER>thaumaturge>necro>pyro>cryo>elementalist>psychokino>chronomancer>wizard
alchemist is a 'endgame' money maker only atm
but ofc, the beauty is in the combinations, like how psycho and cryo get's better together or elementalist makes uses of the extra circles of wizards like no one else, but this list here is pretty solid in termos of 'solo' and combinations.
>why necros are ranked so high
because it's a r6 only, with means that you can't fuck up a lot and reach here since u have 5 ranks before to do something and he has some nice stuffs. please, don't come with "wiz 2 > pyro 1 > ele 1 > chrono 1 into necro".
So I finished demon prison (non riding demon dick version) at level 154. Do I proceed to story more until I run out of quests and then ride some demon dick until 161, or do I ride demon dick some more to level up to be an appropriate level and then go story more?
>>123719646
Are you talking about the ingame chat?
I don't get were you're going talking about the chat.
It censors many things, that's it.
and I'm not saying every single person that ever posted about kissing is a erper, but those those that post about it at every thread and it's fine to have suspicions.
I've checked the last two threads, and I must admit there's isn't as much posts about that, mostly thanks to the fact certain people stopped going on and on about it.
On that account, I will agree, maybe I shouldn't speak further or else they might start again.
I don't like any of em.
What should i take? Going for Schwarzer
>>123721665
Take Quarrel Shooter for max single target damage.
>>123725410
Well, i don't leveling Stone Shot. It's still 1lvl for 22 SP cost. At lvl15 it cost 93 sp, a can't afford so much sp. So it's useless. Though, im not sure how's "Running Shot" works
