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>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui
>BETTING
Cosmetic items: http://dota2lounge.com/
Previous Thread: >>123525031
>20 memes early
>>123561269
actually this >>123561373
just take kotlguy for example. kotlguy is a man who is objectively bad at dota, not a good caster, and someone who has 0 game knowledge. reddit literally whined to valve until they put him in TI and the majors even though he is bad at every aspect of it. reddit for some reason hates it when objectively good caster/players/panelists do well over bad ones.
my guess is because reddit is a hug box where people legitimately ask how to get out of 1k mmr and dont want to admit they are shit so they want to surround themselves with shit
>tfw you have a quarry to settle
nth for holy shit ppd is balding hard
The only positions I understand is support and offlane. I can't mid and I can't carry. What the fuck is wrong with me? I have no concept of farming. I just like to support and fight heroes. I dislike farming a lot.. It feels very not helpful to me. Like if my team gets gone on.. I don't want to run away and into the jungle to farm. I want to fight with them and try and win that fight. However, I have grown really bored and need help branching out. Maybe its because I play the same heroes? I hate like 3/4 of the roster though.
HELP!
>>123561716
You cracked the code Johnny
>286 days since last hero release
>In the darkest of hours
>whenever Secret - Team GigaReddit - is about to win a Major
>or needs to be shut down in TI
>the ourrest of our guys always strike sthem down
>the heart of the gulag ALWAYS kills the team of incarnate redditors
>First is was based our canonical namesake guys slavs, based VP
>now it was our canonical guys O.ur G.uys with our guy N0tail
We should never doubt our guys to triumph over Reddit.
>>123561785
just play flash farming mids like SF, you farm for like 20 seconds then fight
When the motherfucking cocksucking FUCK is the next patch??????????????????
Akke deserves better!
>>123561716
B-but Kotlguy works hard and says memes sometimes...
>>123561785
let me help you
you dont understand shit, just get carried.
end.
you CANNOT be a good support without being a good core player, and offlane is just hardmid literally.
2
>>123561813
>1 hero PORT a year (not even a new hero, like Riot does 4+ times a year, a fucking PORT of a hero that has existed on WC3 already for a decade)
lmao, just fucking lmao dotards
What do? Should I join them?
Wow!
Frankfurt.
What a ride, huh?
Well, now that its over, remember to keep an eye out for deprecated memes on the gulag such as
>n0lans
>secret will never lose / any variant of secret is good
>honeypot lans matter
>chinese dota is good
>anime makes you better at dota
>>123561904
hard work != success
nth for ppd
>PPD predicted the Centaur pick by OG this game
PPD already has OG figured out
Didn't S4 only drafted solid picks in Secret? Why is he doing memepicks now?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zwZQrH
Look at this build and tell me what's wrong with it dotards
>People are blaming reddit when the reason for things like Region Lock is because Finol is an SA Goon, and SA Goons, as the originators of all SJW'ism on the internet [SA = SRS], want integration and forcing people of different cultures to play and hate each other in dota
Region Lock = Problematic = Finol removed it
Anyone else happy all of these garbage casters and analysts are getting replaced once the pro players retire?
How much would it cost to rent a patch on EG's sellout suits? Can't be that much now that they've been exposed as a fluke.
>>123562089
It's really shitty bait.
>ppd only shows up briefly in between games for 5 mins
>have to listen to some 3k shits cast the actual games
FOR
WHAT
PURPOSE
Reminder that Secret will never lose desu.
>>123562089
>AMD
no point in even looking at the rest of it, its shit
>>123562040
Reminder ppd let OG through to beat secret
he couldve won frankfurt if he wanted to
>>123562089
your pc doesnt matter becuase even players that get sent 20k machines for free have issues with fps thansk to stillborn
thanks valve
SECRET
WILL
NEVER.
EVER
E V E R
WIN
A
NON
HONEYPOT
LAN
PPD NEW INCONTROL
RE: 123562089
>AMD
end your life
I hate this meme meta of ebin mid carries.
wait, ppd is casting with synderen?
>>123562040
>>123562120
>>123562175
How can you still show face after the huge dissapointment EG has been since they kicked their only good player?
Show some fucking shame for god's sake.
>>123562334
>I hate this meme meta of ebin mid carries for the 3rd patch in a row
ftfy
>>123562334
I hate that 95% of dota lewds are fucking shit
IS OUR GUY CASTING THIS SHIT?
>>123562090
>Region Locking the majority of the player base
>>123562334
It's been this way since like DAC.
Maybe earlier if you think of post TI4 meta.
why is empire winning with anyone
they are at their alltime worst and literally swithc rosters every week
>>123562128
the funniest is that its really not
i have never ever built a pc in my life
i just want something very cheap and and especially form factor to move around to play doter on and normal computer use
>>123562381
ya
>>123562420
synderen or PPD? either way yes
>>123562452
Why are you even trying then? Just get someone on reddit to make one for you based on your budget and needs. Much better than asking people to correct your build when it's all shit.
>>123562452
you have to be 18 to browse 4chan
>>123562534
you have to be 18 to post not browse senpai
>>123562334
>>123561887
Reminder Goodkind is jealous af of axe and his affairs.
Reminder Axe only love is for battle and this is your average shoujo love story.
>>123562597
Our guys are actually the best team in the world.
What a time to be alive.
>>123562597
M-Mirana?
>valve rigging the game so OG wins
epic, miracle got like 3 invis in 12min
EIGHT THOUSAND
>>123562509
Can you do it for me anon? When i build the pc i willsuck your dicksupport you in 10 games with abaddon
>>123562434
Actually i think funnek could be the player they are looking for. Stable core player who is not very egocentric and does not farm a lot..
>>123562416
at least we have that flash of ww getting fucked by phoenix
>>123562729
I'm not joking when I say go to reddit. They have subreddits where people will jump over themselves for a chance to show off their epic pc building skills.
>>123562757
stfuj funik
>>123562729
www.logicalincrements.com/
they literally have a guide for dota2, one of the creators was shilling here way back
if you dont live in burgerland the prices may be way different tho
>>123562940
>being a NEET is a good thing
>being the king of a bunch of losers is a good thing
>>123562940
But EG is the NEET team artour, stop trying to deflect.
>NEETs
>>123562940
>won a certified fluke lan on a fluke
Yeah, that doesn't mean shit honestly.
>pick luna
>lose
why do teams keep doing this
can you post some mmr grinding tunes?
>>123563261
You get to look at her ass while playing
>>123563279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrO9PTpuSSs
fucking youtube removed like half the other things he has, god damn jews
>>123563261
>pick luna
>don't farm ancients
>don't skyrocket
>lose against flashfarmers heroes
So how hard will he get fucked over in 6.86?
>>123563261
they don't know about mid luna
>>123563380
if SF isnt nerfed into nothing after the like 4th straight patch of him being first pick first ban then im done with dota. so fucking tired of this hero
Our guys win yet again
>>123563279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPzEi8UHJJ0
literally who can stop them?
>gg
>WUVWUVWUVWUVWUVWUVWUVWUV
are these guys for real
>synderen dying inside as OG keeps winning
>Draskyl looks like he's 50
Isn't he actually like 28?
b-big daddy...... two lans????
>>123563454
>>123563380
>nerfing one of the few remaining mids that's actually fun
nice
soon playdota will realize its dream of having the game be 5v5 drow ranger.
>>123563380
NothingMap changes are going to fuck him though
>>123563561
he is just bored with the patch like everyone else. imagine having to cast essentially the same game 80% of the time for almost a year
Will SF get a much deserved nerf in 6.86?
/d2g/ you lied to me this isn't ppd, you said ppd was casting with synderen
>>123563583
Bigdaddyn0TI
Can the meme of inviting goofy accented yuropoors and gooks to be casters and on camera personalities end please? I am sick and tired of having to listen to these mush mouthed retards on every fucking stream. Fuck off.
>>123563635
I bet you want WR nerf too fellow reddit bro #supportplayer :^)
>>123563584
i want them to bring back other fun heros i just want SF gone, he has been in about 70% of my games for like a year. i want verity back in my games and not LoL esque metas where only 15 heros are not auto lose heros
>>123563635
no he wont mr redditor
you screamed enough about storm, you wotn ruin ANOTHER fine hero with your retarded 3k game knowledge
>>123563584
>fun
>shadowfiend.
FUCK off. Storm Spirit is and was fun. Timbersaw is fun. This hero is cancerous shit, and also broken - requiem not breaking invis is retarded.
eight thousand
SF doesn't need nerfs
>>123563356
already heard the whole album hundreds of times
>>123563728
Speaking about Storm.
He is getting nerfed again because Sumail trashed Secret again with it
BUFF ARROW CAT LADY, I MISS HER ;_;
>>123563737
reqyiem not breaking invis is not even a problem with him. it takes like 3 seconds to use, if you are in a place where he can ult on top of you you either need to learn how to buy detection or not be out of position so he can ult on you
the problem with SF is if you absolutely shit on him in the early game he can flash farm back to top of the net worth in no time at all. hell if your team is even a little bit smart they just stack the jungle for you and you will never be out of the game cause you can clear a quad stack in 3 razes for barely any mana and then just ult if the enemy comes to gank you for a double kill
>>123563737
>people who think SF is op are 3k unranked players
color me surprised
>>123563905
But that is it is also a weakness, IT IS FUCKING PREDICTABLE. if you shitted on him then go to his jungle and shit on him more while taking the stacks and blocking the camps.
>that tfw when this patch is so shit I find chess more exciting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHkW8yCcrI0
>OG wins a non honeypot lan
>forgets the Law Of The Honeypot and starts winning honeypot lans too
NO
STOP
NOTAIL
STOP MEMEING
STOP
FLY
YOU'LL GET MORE MONEY LATER IF YOU WAIT
CONTAIN YOURSELF
dota is so fucking bad stale and boring man
ADELAIDE?
I've always wanted to be Tresdin's squire. I always enjoy fantasizing about entering a tent with her after a long battle and slowly removing her armor, starting at the helmet and making my way down to her boots. At that point she sits down on a stool and commands me to kneel down and remove them one at a time. "Squire, must you pitch another tent so soon?" she says to me. I try to cover it up out of embarrassment, but she kicks my hands away. "You haven't finished yet." I don't understand because I had already removed her armor, but after she gives me a look I realize that she wants me to remove her shoes as well. I take off her shoes and reveal her gorgeous feet, surprisingly soft despite her being a strong warrior, and extremely sweaty. "Lick the sweat off my feet, squire," she commands me. I happily endulge until my raging boner begins to hurt from pressing so hard against my trousers. "Alright, squire, stand up and remove your clothes." I do so while she does the same. Then, all of a sudden, I feel an inescapable desire to stand still. "FIGHT ME" she screams as she pushes me to the ground and gets on top of me. It's only now that I notice she's holding Aghanim's Scepter, and I understand that she won't stop until one of us cums. Her technique gets more and more intense until I am unable to hold back. I cum inside her pussy with the force of a hundred megacreeps. She gets off of me, and as I lay there quivering in pleasure she gets dressed and begins to chuckle. "Only 9 inches? Pathetic."
>>123563728
What the hell are you talking about?
Storm Spirit DESERVED his nerf - he's still a good hero though. Shadowfiend deserves a little nerf too - he'd still be a good hero if his abilities had a slightly higher mana cost. But he's not fun to watch, or play against, and Storm Spirit WAS. It was annoying how fucking overboard Icefrog went - basically made a hero unplayable.
Valve listening too much to reddit is a big problem in dota but it's inarguable that a 7-8K networth hero should never have been able to delete a 12K networth carry from existence for daring to show his face to farm a creep or two for 1-2 seconds.
Shadowfiend is now the strongest hero in Dota by a long way and takes so little skill.
>>123563584
Yeah this is quickly becoming one of my major problems with this game.
Not only do we never get any new heroes or regular content patches, but when any of the few heroes that aren't WC3 copy/paste hackjobs become popular, they are overnerfed by icefrog to appease reddit/playdota.
Really thinking of finding a new moba, this game has been mismanaged into oblivion, and was never even better than HoN.
sf gets like dd for free in lane
why?
>>123564029
Are you fucking retarded?
>>123564121
seeya next week
>>123563635
I don´t play sf but I´m shitting on all shadow fiends with fucking TA. You are just shit mr redditor desu baka senpai
>>123564034
>not watching dreamhack meme stone
>mfw TI are the true honeypot LAN because any team that won them became dogshit
>>123564110
>Storm Spirit DESERVED his nerf
>Statistically outclassed by a support
>HE DESERVED HIS NERF GUYS
>>123564170
just gank his jungle
>>123563905
That's why you need to nerf the mechanic of stacking, not heroes who benefit from it. Make the maximum amount of times camp can be stacked for example.
>>123564198
proven wrong
see: eg
SF isn't even OP
The only "nerf" he needs is map changes to make mid easier to gank
Reminder that shadowfiend has 100% pick/ban rate and 100% winrate on this memelan.
>>123564029
predictable doesnt matter if its predictable in a ton of different ways. if you shit on SF he basically has 3 options: fight, flash farm lanes, flash farm jungle. you cant be prepared for all of those options at once. also if you ward up the jungle by the time you get from lane to gank him he has already cleared his stacks. also if your spending on this time on 1 hero the rest of the team is going to destroy you.
SF needs an early game nerf i personally dont know how to do it but his early game is WAY too strong for how good he is in the rest of the game. the flash farming later isnt even that big of a deal but he should not be able to go from 6th net worth to 1st once he hits level 7 as fast as he does
>>123564110
What deserved the nerf and get kicked out of the game in general is memeback
Storm and such heroes were never a problem because you could shut them up early
Since memeback makes them even with you after a couple of kills you can never acomplish this and ends up being OP
>>123564325
the term is honeypot lan anon
>SF Aghs idea: SF now has an infinite soul capacity
There fixed him
>>123564170
Dude its ballanced its not like he has 900dmg nuke that costs no mana lol xD
6.85
Reduced Shrapnel delay from 1.4 to 1.2.
he's slowly creeping back and I can't wait
PEEPERS UNITE
>>123564290
>lost to Secret
>have RTC, the team destroyer, in team
>not dogshit
>>123564459
agi gain still garbage
>lpq
>3 people abandon at first blood
>the other two get a forced win due to lmao 1500 gpm before cs or tower gold
truly a meme for the ages
>>123564176
Think about it anon (it is not fucking hard)
Assuming worst case scenerio (Radiant SF) and you shitted on him in lane, HE WILL ALWAYS GO TO THOSE CAMP(You know which one)
>>123564170
Just jungle his wards
WORST FUCKING PAIRING REE
>>123564510
>getting lpq
kill yourself, if you have LPQ you already ruined the game for other people, it should be ruined for you back in that hell
>>123564510
(you)
>>123564585
saying that turkey > russia hardly ruins games though
and the same thing would happen in ranked if 3 people agandoned at first blood and the other two stayed for some reason
>>123564369
>Juiceshitters still mad that they can't 1v9 by suiciding to towers with only economy in their side
>>123564520
>hero is good laner
>hero is also good jungler
this is weakness because its predictable xD
>>123564680
thanks for typing that out, made me feel special
>dazzle slardar
just gg out
>>123564507
>3rd place at major
>shit
So everyone but Secret and OG are shit huh
>>123564510
thanks fammy im gonna use 'meme for the ages' in the future, that's a keeper
>>123564825
>secret
>not shit
>>123564825
>>123564507
non honeypot lans won since TI4:
EG : 2 - more money than any team in the history of esports
OG : 1
Secret : 0
>>123564825
We don't call them shit, just Tier 5 Dota.
>>123564951
>EG : 2 -
Which lans were those?
>>123565008
>Nato
>not terrorists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDFhgpidzNA
>>123565123
DAC, TI
also; reminder Secret has never won a non-shit lan
Why does fitjew look so unfit today?
That fucking hair...what is that guy even thinking?
>>123565318
nvm i had read since TI5
my cukolding girlfriend
>>123565564
why
Oh jesus I just played slark for the first time in my life
>over 100 stolen agility
>everything blows up when you rightclick it
>>123565637
build LMAO 2 hyper stones and you hit the AS cap after a bit
>>123565735
When I got moonshard my damage output looked like it got multiplied by 5, I killed everyone and we won.
Pretty good hero if you don't run blindly into the enemy secret shop under a sentry ward lel
2 POPULAR TEAMS ARE PLAYING I NA (honeypot) LAN
and the thread is completely dead
>fast blink on ES would be good
Mastermind.
Why is Elder Titan so good?
TELL ME ABOUT VIPER
WHY DO PEOPLE PICK THIS BADHERO
>>123565936
i just wish slarks early game wasnt so bad so bad
>gyro and disruptor both die because the disruptor is too shit to time his static field
how the fuck
>>123565637
yeah slark is fun in 2kmmr
any new sheevers
>>123566215
dominates lane and naturally builds into a mek
its a hero thats supposed to be picked in win in 30 minutes or lose line ups
Wyverns are for ___ING
>Pro Vipers always maxing corrosive first
>Nethertoxin is ludicrously powerful early game
Hate this meme.
>>123566393
banning
dude, rate my moustache collage.
holy shit that fight
>this game
Fucking tier 5 Dota.
>cosmetics makes rubick's stolen spells different from the originals
Why is this allowed? I thought cosmetics didn't alter balance?
>cr1t rubick
why are gods allowed to play with mere mortals?
Inb4 honeypot tournament cus OG getting smashed
ingame i cant stop telling people to kill themselves
and since reborn im not even getting muted for it
help
>OG trying to teamfight when they have 0 fighting heroes
???
>>123566426
>do not max nethertoxin
>oh wait FUCK thats the only reason why I have any tankability at all with my 335 ms
>die after hitting twice and using one ult
Why does empire only show up at literal honeypot LANS?
oh lmao turkey playing with fire i see
hopefully russia genocides them in the future
>"""""""""worlds best team"""""""""" losing to the Empire at their worst since like 3 years now that literally changed rosters like 3 days ago
smells like honey
>Synderen
>Sucking off OG's dick when Empire clearly won that teamfight
"hurr durr OG so good against a tier 3 team"
They won the major so now Synd has to suck their dick every chance he can?
you FUCKING offlane nigger jesus christ
>teams keep giving Fly Dazzle
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN?
>>123566789
>go 1/4/2/1 at 8
>make mek
>shit out damage and be unkillable
what don't you get
adelaide?
>>123566976
lmao I meant to say corrosive
hehe my bad :d
>>123566861
>revealing your strats and power level in honeypots
???????????
did you miss frankfurt??
>>123567026
adelaide.
Given infinite funds, which hero would be the strongest by themselves?
>>123566976
You forgot
>Fail to snowball and take all objectives
>Have only a Yasha by 30 mins because you can't farm for shit
>lose
Disliked Shitpire already, but since they added Feed1k, I now completely detest them. On the other hand, they have to plya Alliance, another team I despise. Fuck, that's hard.
>>123567105
can you give multiple aghs to people as alchemist?
if yes, alchemist, since you have 200 hp +10 stats x infinity
PLEASE GIVE ME A RIKI BUILD
>>123567091
>Implying secret strats to play standard dota against T3 and not feed
>>123567105
pudge becaus ef le infinite scaling
pudge le hardest carry guise give me upboats now
can you go bnack to reddit already and stop asking for shit that has nothing to do with any real game of dota?
>bbbbbut muh deadliest warrior dota edition, who would win 1v1 a carry venge or faceless void??????
>>123567105
spectre or dusa
>>123567297
oov
>>123567331
Don't you have a sheep to fuck, Ahmed?
>>123567309
Honestly I just want a hero that I can carry my trench games with
nobody ever knows how to end
>>123567181
>he builds yasha first
LAMO
>OG Are bad
-d2g
>>123567493
no matter what you build as viper you will lose unless your team joins up with you and you manage to take favorable teamfights from min 10
>>123567331
>>123567534
can you all fuck off
this is a sheever thread
>>123567105
A hero in a complete vacuum with any items, what a pointless scenario.
Discounting pudge/silencer/legion with 10000 stats/duels, either void or LD. eaten aghs and shard gives void 8 slots, and he has scaling evasion, bash, and a super hard CC. LD because when both him and the bear are 6 slotted, you win if you ever hit the other guy since you can alternate bashes and literally stunlock anyone to death.
how toxic is sing_sing?
Even Bamboe can be on a top team
quick post that webm. you know which one :^)
>>123562389
oh it's a reddit user
tell me what autism_2k has done after EG?
Is not qualifying for LANs an achievement?
remember when WW ult went completely through bkb on everyone and didnt give damage reduction while her arctic burn did pure damage?
>>123567493
ITT redditors question an 8K players build.
Yasha into Manta is LEGIT on Viper, you 1K tard.
>>123567769
Funn1k is so fucking bad
Why'd they pick him up
FUNNEK
>>123567769
>funnik
why is he still playing this game
when earth spirit eventually gets added to CM do any pros actually play it?
>>123568096
jerax
>>123567653
7slotted alchejew with battle items comes pretty close to unmanmodeable too, unless it's vs a maxed FV or 13slotted LD. The BAT reduction he gets from lvl3 ult is fucking insane if you don't build badnaga.
>>123568096
>no pro practices ES since he is not in CM
>ES gars added
>pros try it
>fail horribly
>they abandon it since they are mindless sheeple
>top pub players forge the meta
>ES gets nerfed
>pros start to pick him
like poetry
>>123568096
Earth Spirit has a 57% winrate at "very high" skill levels.
I'm gonna say it's probably 1st pick/ban material.
how the fuck are OG struggling so hard with this?
>>123568402
adelaide
>>123568402
They arent
They have like 20 mins to win this before Empires support get refreshers and other shit
>>123568086
Dota used to be popular back in the day but Riot actually spent a lot of money on marketing in Turkey, set up Turkish servers and Turkish LCS. So LeL is definitely bigger but Dota 2 still has a significant player base.
So this post got deleted while I was typing this. Why?
>>123568393
>>123568096
>>123568289
>pros dont know that es is good
this is one SPECTACULAR meme
>>123568393
I play in VH and I'm complete shit at this game. Competitive dota and pubs are two different things.
I love notail
He's a beatiful flower
>>123568520
I deleted it because the rest were deleted, the root was a non-reply to the pol stuff going on
C R 1 T
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>>123568393
>>123568541
its not 'VH', he has confirmed 58% winrate when the game average is over 5 k
>yfw the state CIS Dota
>>123562427
the majority of the palyerbase can just play with themselves. if it truly is the majority it shouldnt hurt them at all should it?
OG OG OG
GO GOGO
OG OG OG
BEST
E
S
T
TEAM
E
A
M
IN DA WORLD
CONFIRMED BY THOUSANDS OF DOTA EXPERTS AND SYNDEREN
>>123568532
do they? thats why im asking, i dont know. who does?
How come Dazzle is allowed to be tier-1 support hero (first pick -tier) for 14 months straight?
Void was nerfed in two months.
And only one player was good with it (Universe)
Everyone picks Dazzle first and everyone makes game living hell with it and no nerfs.
Why
>>123568764
Supports cannot be OP
SF and WR are the problems, no way can ES and Dazzle be OP
>>123568734
if they are the majority,shouldn't they be the ones that take that decision
>>123568764
>a support is OP
look at this KEKold
>>123568764
>Support
>OP
pick 1
>>123568764
bh had like 78% winrate last patch
ALL of reddit cried to nerf storm, no one cried about bh becuase he doesnt make le flashy plays so he cannot be op
>Notail interview
and muted
>>123568748
every pro player complains about him in their pubs, and several don't want him to ever be in -cm
just because most pros don't play him doesn't mean they are blind to his potential. once he's in -cm i expect he will be highly valued after a few weeks of adjustment, maybe less if pros know ahead of time he's getting added and get a jump on learning him.
>>123568764
Dazzle doesn't have goodcrystalnova, goodfirefly and goodhalfcdblackhole.
>>123568868
>SF and WR are the problems, no way can ES and Dazzle be OP
>Storm and Lesh are the problems, no way can ES and WW can be be OP
>Sniper and Troll are the problems, no way can Venge and Lion can be OP
Every fucking Patch
>>123568885
>should not be the ones that take that decision
I take it english is your 2nd language?
this thread has gone to shit
post ppd
>>123568948
>Playing Alch as BadNaga
>>123568948
It's just a game, anon. Remember that. It's supposed to be enjoyable. Make it so.
I'm going to marry N0taiL!
N0LAN
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>>123569101
I fucking hate how Sniper was butchered. That hero actually is complete wash with the incredibly high CD Shrapnel reload.
and Troll was a fucking melee hero that just built tanky, just fucking Roar him and kill his team not fuc-
>DAZZLE GRAVES THE PERSON YOU ATTACK IF YOU ROAR TROLL AND DONT ATTACK HIM
:V)
>>123568948
same shit applies to any hero when some subhuman shitter stuck in 2013 or earlier do outdated item builds and feeds
>>123568998
A lot of people here and maybe on lebbit(?) talked about how bounty is definitely too strong, and then at the later part of the patch it was just accepted pretty sure
I didn't see many people arguing that bounty isn't at least a bit OP
>>123569190
wow bro easy with the hacking you might get on the news haha dont ban me haha
>>123569085
ok so who plays him?
>>123568764
Because the game is supposed to be balanced for spectators
Any heroe whose purpose is to facilitate fights must be strong
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>>123569113
DID SOMEONE DELETE MY FUCKING POST?
Okay fine.
ALWAYS go the full cancer build on alchemist. The build is radiance+octarine+manta style. Quit being shitters and not going it. Your ult is up nearly all the time. MANTA will be up nearly all the time.
Quit being SHIT. Don't ever buy anything else besides radiance+octarine+manta as your CORE items on alch. Quit being DOG SHIT.
So sick of shitters going battlefury and AC and what not. What the fuck is that going to help you do? AC does nothing if you have 1000 life. FUCK you.
>>123569313
as of now, only jerax
if he gets added to -cm i expect most 3/4 role players will at least try to learn him.
just because no pros play him doesn't mean they don't know how mindshatteringly good he is.
>I want to see Alliance back!
I don't think i could be a bigger n0tail fanboy if i tried
>>123569313
no serious pro trains something knowing it will get changed
there is no point trying to learn heroes not in cm, all it will do is make playing them later awkward
"damn i thought i could do it, last patch i could for sure o well another feed"
-every kaolin shitter next patch if he gets nerfed
