Visual Novel General #913
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5. Google it
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(archive.moe is down)
Previous threads:
>>123087165
http://pastebin.com/zeiYgLrs
This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels. Some untranslated discussion is allowed in moderation, but please keep in mind that the primary purpose of this thread is for translated games, and anything else will only be tolerated for as long as it does not hinder this purpose. If you see a blatant shitposter or someone being rude, please REPORT and ignore.
Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.
Thank you.
New thread? We're over the bump limit.
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I've been away for a little while. Is the Koichoco translation out yet?It isn't, is it?
>>123243661
Not yet, but I saw this with 0 trace of memes - soon.
>The plan for this month is to get the latest state of the translation ingame, wrap it in a nice and easy one-click installer, and bring you the patch. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’ll be released this month (if we find any major issues for example), but it does mean that there will be no more major changes.
>>123243782
das it mane
Also what's the site where it has the news and where it'll be released first? I've learnt the hard way the VNDB is very slow when it comes to updating what is translated and what-not. Been out of the VN loop lately but heard Koichoco trans' soon.
>>123243887
Just google basic translations.
>I've learnt the hard way the VNDB is very slow when it comes to updating what is translated and what-not.
When? Usually vndb is lightning fast, I think.
>>123243887
Try reddit.
>>123243887
As one of the guys who tries to keep VNDB up to date, I like to think we do a pretty decent job. It's usually within the same day, at the very least. We sometimes miss stuff, though it's usually the shit no one is paying attention to, like Ace Academy. I'll try to update VNDB the moment I see the patch just for you, anon.
>>123242546
Glad to hear you have time to waste.
Be honest, how mad are you that the Clannad retranslation is decent?
>>123243887
Most recent update was this on the editor's twitter:
>eltony @elpwny Nov 18
>Bugswatting operation was a succes. Now only manual binary editing, creating even more bugs and then some arbitrary waiting. (ETA: never)
>>123244246
Not mad at all, I don't have a hateboner for sekai project, but I do regret that what solely amounts to editing of the fan TL is going to be called a re-translation by people like you
>>123244246
I don't see any reason to be mad. I'd be more annoyed if they actually tried to pass off the old one unchanged. Either way they're not getting a penny of my money though, those guys have to make a hell of a lot more progress with their general attitude and business practices before I even think of supporting them in any way.
Still, the existence of a better edited translation hurts nobody, so as I said I'm not upset about it.
>>123244239
No no, it's that I've checked a couple times in the past and it was at least 24h late. No big deal, just wanted to know the source site (who is translating this title)
I can't stop listening to subahibi EDs someone please help me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjQx4sI8bdY
>>123244239
>We sometimes miss stuff, though it's usually the shit no one is paying attention to
It took like a month before anyone added https://vndb.org/v18552 and even then I had to do it myself
>>123244374
Forgot to link, https://basicvntls.wordpress.com/
>>123244246
I'm only angry because of how inconsistent Sekai is about quality. Sometimes it's okay and sometimes it's a trainwreck. Given how much they have under their belt supposedly, and some of which I LIKE, I have serious concerns when they get to it.
>>123244441
I was mostly coming from the standpoint of translation projects, since that's what I edit. Although looking at that VN, it was added to the database the day before it came out so at least it got its time in the new releases list.
>>123244246
Don't care, already read it.
Sekai Project is shit in my book until they start producing new translations for visual novels.
>>123244961
But this is a new translation.
>>123245045
That's not what I meant and you know it.
>>123245045
>But this is a new translation.
>>123218783
![通心ぼ_Version_1.0.0.0_[data_ver1.00]-2015-11-24_01-58-16.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jisAMss.jpg "通心ぼ_Version_1.0.0.0_[data_ver1.00]-2015-11-24_01-58-16.jpg")
>can't even play lolige without chuunishit
DISAPPOINTMENT !
>>123245380
I think they retranslated some parts, where the original was obviously unworkable. But yeah, it's also obvious that too much of it is way too similar in wording to have been a totally new translation
>>123245541
>playing lolige
you should be ashamed of yourself
>>123245541
>>123246006
この掲示板は伴天連の基本に踏まえる
小児愛者ども帰れ
>>123246315
Love knows not the bounds of age. To admire the beauty of prepubescent girls is entirely healthy, unlike feeling such hate for people online. You have my pity.
>>123246451
>>123246451
やれやれ
貞操観念の背徳そのもの
>>123246592
私には貞操観念ZERO
>>123246575
Pretty much. At least it's good to know that most people spouting this stuff don't really mean it, since they just want to fit in and continue the loli meme.
>>123246637
>loli meme
>>123246006
>>123245541
>Posting VN only you can read
No translated lolige.
>>123247243
>No translated lolige.
https://vndb.org/v16006
>>123247293
As much as MangaGamer likes to promote themselves as committed to bringing over completely unadulterated content from Japan, they're still not willing to bring over games like Monobeno. That too is censorship of a sort; it's just more insidious because you can't point a finger and say, "That title was censored!" No, the title wasn't censored, but the idea was.
The funny thing is that DLsite are the ones truly pushing boundaries. They're even selling loli sex simulators like Park Toucher Fantasy on their English site, and they do so openly and with frank descriptions targeted right at their intended audience.
>>123247293
mangagamer translated a loli eroge?
that's pretty fucked based to be honest.
>>123247390
Go talk to lolicon. Actual lolicon, not just fans of token lolis. See what they think about how loli content has been handled over the past 15 years. See if they think MG will be their new champion. I think you'll get a lot of cynicism, because lolicon fans know there's no one on their side.
>>123247382
Direct censorship would be MangaGamer's fault, whereas omission is not. If you want to point the finger at someone for omission, blame our prudish society.
>>123247539
That's some pasta from reddit, don't respond seriously to it
>>123247539
MG has drawn a line in the sand and said that certain types of content are off-limits. I don't understand how people can contend that's not censorship. You can blame whoever you want, but censorship has occurred, and anti-censorship activists that tie companies' hands by preventing workarounds only make the problem worse, not better. Imagine that JAST had declined to license Shiny Days because they knew that content would have to be cut from the official release, even though the content could be restored through unofficial channels. MG boasts that it never has and never will cut content, but that sort of absolutist stance can end up limiting freedom of speech rather than promoting it.
Whats your favorite character archetype?
>>123247729
The "interesting and well-written character" archetype.
>>123247693
Pushing the fault onto companies that handle localization only deepens their stance. Why are you trying to make them out as the enemy? It's a symptom, not a cause.
>>123247729
Unforgiving lolicon who everyone hates but is actually has remarkable feats of capable when said lolis are endangered, but otherwise completely comedic.
>>123247936
Here's your problem: You're removing the human element from the company, expecting them to localize anything and everything you want, which is an extremely entitled attitude. Is it a disappointment? If you're not being catered to, yes. But they don't have to localize anything they don't want to. Alternative companies can pick it up - that's the nature of the free market.
Of course, you could always stop whining here and go learn some damn Japanese instead of marinating in your own juices at your computer desk, day after day, beating off to prepubescent girls shitting on each other. Then you're free to read and even localize anything you want to - simultaneously dealing with the problems associated with doing so.
>>123248310
>>123248595
Based Sugita
norrtillsoder @twitch
Check us out, drinking coffe and talking about life!
>>123248760
Shill your channel someplace else
>>123248760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dbR2JZmlWo
>>123248994
>filthy frank
>>>/reddit/
>>123248760
>norrtillsoder @twitch
Wow 8 viewers
New meme, drinking coffee.
>>123249680
I asked them about visual novels but they seemed confused this seems off topic
>>123250939
Visual novels? You're in the wrong thread, mate. This is the shitposting general.
死よ 死の幕引きこそ唯一の救い
Ahh, moe is me.
>>123252482
shitposting
>>123255139
47 seconds.
>>123255146
37 seconds.
You cunts just couldn't wait to release your autism on this thread. We could have had a perfect hour between posts, but you had to fucking ruin it.
Fuck you both.
jesus christ, after finally finishing AA investigations 1 (the last case being longer than the rest of the game) i finally started with investigations 2
and holy shit
this is the best of all the ace attorney games, only the first case is already a top tier in the whole series and Edgeworth is actually doing investigations and deductions that make sense in real life.
Anyone has that picture that I saw once that was the the cases of all the cases ordered in tiers? I'm going to revise it
>>123256020
I still don't understand how it's possible tokill sombody by landing a hot air balloon on top of the person, while said person is perfectly aware of your intention. Like, just take a step to the right.
>>123256406
anon, I'm still on the second case, now I'll never be able to take that out of my mind
I hope that wasn't spoiler from the last case...
Who else is hype for Euphoria?
>>123256584
I saw people talking about it on /v/, I was surprised
>>123256686
Why? They also had starless threads. As long as a game has elements SJW would disapprove of, I wouldn't be suprised if it's popular there.
>>123256830
Assumed they were more normalfag over there. Though I don't actually go to /v/ much.
>>123257209
People boycotted Bravely Default on /v/ because the cleavage of 3 job-costumes on the chibi characters were censored. The mindset is the same as on weeb boards, probably because there are a lot of cross boarders too.
>>123257367
I did too. I don't like it when they needlessly censor shit. I'm not playing shit like that.
>>123257367
>muh censorship
>>123257493
to be fair, Bravely default's censor is a fucking joke, I don't even get why people got buttblasted
>>123257842
If it's the case, why censor it?
>>123257491
I heavily agree.
>>123257842
When I ask for something localized, I essentially want to play the Japanese version of the game in English. Not a lot to ask, right?
It's less the loss of content and more the principle of giving money to people who think they can tell me what to like and what not to like.
Just look at the Blade & Soul censorship. I actually agreed with the censorship, mainly because of the shitstorm that would probably result from leaving it in-tact, but then they went and gave reasons such as "it's disgusting" and "our whole team was uncomfortable
>>123257873
because the company is fucking retarded, there is nothing that can be done about it
but what's more retarded is to complaint about such a minimal thing and boycott an excellent game for it
Don't get me wrong, there are games that don't deserve being censored and that it was a bigger deal, but bravely default's censorship? Fucking nothing
>>123256584
I am, can't wait.
>>123258023
Completely agree with you anon. The SJW thing in video games is getting out of hand.
Seisai no Resonance translation when
>>123258023
>but then they went and gave reasons such as "it's disgusting" and "our whole team was uncomfortable
This pisses me off too.
If you're going to localize a game then make sure you like the whole game.
It's like going to the theaters and having them cut out parts of the movie because the staff was uncomfortable with it.
Best girl imo desu.
>tfw h-scene never
>>123258023
In the case of bravely default, i doubt censoring the bikini was such a huge change
Also, you are going full philosophical with "people telling me what to like and what not" I sincerely have no fucking idea what do you mean because I doubt censorship is made with the purpose of washing your brain into disliking fanservice, specially if we are talking about japanese developers.
I'm talking about Bravely default here, a game that let you play with japanese voices, surely the censhorship in other games can be a big deal, but I insist that in this example it is a fucking disgrace to complain (a game that doesn't have cute girls as a selling point)
>>123258203
When will Reiji die?
Just let him rest with his waifu.
>>123258203
Maybe in the 3rd one.
>>123257493
Why did /v/, and by extension you fags, decide to make censorship a hot topic all of a sudden? This shit has been going on for years now.
>>123258903
>all of a sudden
You new or something?
Two threads ago someone was saying he didn't want to play a VN because all the h-scenes was removed. There was a discussion about pies and shit.
>>123258203
His notes say she killed her child in a fit of insanity, but when was this ever mentioned? Replayed the original too but there's also nothing
>>123259198
Yeah when that line was mentioned I thought I missed something in the original.
I think it's something they added in 2 to give her character more backstory, because I remember nothing of the sort in the first one.
SEIZON SENRYAKU!bump
Took me a whole month to finish White album 2 and damn was it good. Setsuna is love, Setsuna is life.
I don't quite understand all the Kazusa fags who keep pushing Kazusa true as the true end though. That whole cutting off everyone else seem way too overboard and Haruki remains a coward to the end. Only in ST did he confess before it was too late and that changed everything. Best route with best character development.
>>123261265
Are you a neet?
>>123261559
>reading obscure porn games
Yes he is anon, yes he is.
>>123261559
>Asking people on /vng/ if he is a neet
>>123261630
Speak for yourself, nerd. I only read porn games when I want to jerk off. That's why it took me a whole month.
>>123258203
>tfw h-scene never
>>123262205
Seems like her head is twisted a bit too far.
>>123262205
http://exhentai.org/s/ce1035c29c/523604-93
Anyone got a link to download the KNS 2 OST? There's an old ASL torrent but no seeders.
Also, Michiru best girl, Toko doesn't count since she's Tokisaka-san's p a r a n o i a.
Do you guys try to get all the bad endings in a VN or just go for endings with new CGs?
>>123264485
I go for the endings where my character doesn't lose unless I happened to end up in that bad end without knowing.
墨痕淋漓
>>123264485
I only play VNs once (or until I get the "true" end). I don't get off getting every single ending.
>>123264485
I go for all the content. Why even bother reading a VN if you're not going to 100% it?
I can't imagine reading Kara no Shoujo or F/SN without going for all the bad ends.
>>123264485
for some games the bad ends are the only good ones.
>>123264485
The only one I completed 100% was F/SN because people kept saying that even the bad endings were good (turns out they weren't).
>>123265428
Sometimes it's hard getting the bad end. Like in a VN where the romantic interest confesses to you and you have the choice of accepting it or rejecting it. And since you're already invested in the girl then rejecting it feels off. I can't really explain it but it's like I don't want to undo the choice of accepting it in a previous run just to see the bed end.
still no Clannad torrent?
>>123265793
That's why you get the bad ends first
>>123265856
I know. I learned my lesson but I just want to fuck the girl really quickly. If I get bad ends first then I might get bored and quit.
Best bad end of all time?
Grisaia's Sachi for me
The irony in it was pure pottery
>>123265915
Fate/SN Sparks Liner High
What a big smile.
Ohaaa, /vn/
>>123267549
Ohaaa, /jp/
>>123267549
Why are you posting a VN only you can read?
>>123268342
Why are you memeing a meme only you can meme?
>>123268342
>>123268903
Why are you posting a VN only you can read?
>>123268935
>>123269028
Why are you posting a VN only you can read?
So I copied the Eiyuu Senki english patch files over to the installation folder but when I ran the game, I got script/load errors. How do I fix this shit?
I think Phorni is my favorite SR girl.
>>123269169
Only works for the all ages version.
>>123268903
>>123268935
you two should just fuck already.
>>123269278
But we both have a penis. How would that work?
>>123269532
You have assholes. Reverse piledriver with each others dicks in each hole.
>>123269532
>posting on /vn/
>not being a faggot
get out of my general normies.
>>123269242
Damn, do you know where I can find a torrent of that version?
>>123269921
I lied.I thought you were talking about a different game.
Eiyuu Senki has two version, the normal version and the gold version. Make sure you're using the correct english patch for the correct game since both has translations.
>>123269169
The game has to be updated to version 1.05 before patching I believe.
>>123271157
>>123270197
Yeah I got the VN from here https://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=127808
I then installed the 1.05 update and copied the patch files over after that. Here's one of the errors that pops up when I boot up the game
>>123271554
I haven't seen this before.
Try asking /hgg/ I think they should know a fix.
>>123266504
for you
>>123272745
>>123272745;_;
>tfw no imouto to sleep with
>>123259198
Because of Rokushiki Makoto maybe ? I don't remember something like that in the first one.
>>123273753
Last time my sister asked to sleep with me was 6 years ago.
She was watching a scary movie.
She took my blanket.
I got sick.
>>123273753
>>123269198
As she should be
>>123274267
Her tits are pretty big.
>>123264485
I hope i'm not the only one who just reads the good endings.
I always skip bad ones because you never really miss out on anything. It's usually just a slightly different ending.
>>123273915
>misaligned text
>huge vertical spaces between lines
Shit typography is shit. Also:
God, the art is horrendous.
>that anime tier shading
>that blur to hide the lack of detail
>>123274447
I hated how all the bad endings were pointless in ef.
>>123274526
This meme isn't funny, kill yourself
>>123274561
same thing in grisaia. It's like the exact same ending except one thing is changed. Like what's even the point of having seperate endings?
I think hoshizora had the right idea in just giving you one end per route.
>>123274805
Joke bad endings in moege, which are usually ones for rejecting every girl, are fine as well. Does Hoshimemo have one if you reject every girl before the true route is unlocked, or does it default to Asuho?
what kind of fucking style is this? Like what were they even trying to go for with such a fucked up head shape?
Is the story good enough for me to look past the art? Also does it havesexual content?
>>123275037
You search for the dragon balls to revive your dead wife. You get those by fucking other girls. That's what the story is about.
>>123275037
>on steam
>does it have sexual content
>>123275037
>steam
>key
>sexual content
even if there was sexual content it would be shit because >key
>>123274398
>>123274267
How old was she during the flashback ? 16yo ? Dem boobies though. Fumiya is living the dream.
Oh shit. I didn't expect that.
hoshizora spoiler
>>123275250
tf2 has loads of sexual content
>>123275362You literally sticks his blade into Kosame later on
>>123275250
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=551445644
>>123274771
It's so funny that people associated with fan translations even meme it up.It ironically describes the screenshot accurately, though.
>>123275262
18 obviously, you should know the drill at this point.
>>123275693
That looks fucking awful.
>>123275756
I really like Koichoco's art.
Release when?
>>123275756
This meme won't make it past this thread.
>>123274965
It goes to Asuho.
will sekai have to start another kikestarter to translate the other grisaias?
>>123276957
The first campaign was for the trilogy.
>>123244367
Personally my main problem with the Steam version is that the price is unrealistic for a VN, and unrealistic for a game that's so old, and double unrealistic if you factor both of these and how anyone interested in the game has probably already played it.
>>123277116
Yeah seriously. I could see Umineko (all 8 chapters) or something like that deserving of a "real vidya" pricetag, but Clannad? Come the fuck on.
(I like Clannad but still. It's 2015)
>>123277116
well they set the price to what people will pay, and it's still in the top sellers. They have no need to lower the price yet.
>>123277269
Do the top sellers take into account people activating the keys they got from Kickstarter?
>>123277374
i wouldn't think so. It probably just goes with store sales.
...Hey!
Koichoco soon fellow neets
>>123278107
Why are you posting a VN only you can read?
>>123277459
If it really is in the top sellers not counting keys, then maybe they're right and it's not unrealistic.
Honestly I don't dislike a world like that, tho, Clannad might have been popular, but at least it would prove there is a market.
Mind of Steel guy here. I have my endurance and fitness tests tomorrow, wish me luck.
>>123278392
if anything it would have been pretty great if the sales went through the roof a exponentially more than expected so devs know that there actually is that market.
>bored
>check fuwanovel
>check the hottest current thread
>guy from company translating a title posts a YT subbed preview of what they have so far
>desu is actually used in the english translation as a character trait
>everyone flips their shit and go full autist for like 3 fucking pages with no end in sight because of this
Classic FuwaNovel.
>>123278107
Why are you posting a VN she can't read?
>>123278475
Hope you fail, you will have more time to play
>>123278912
>check fuwanovel
You reap what you sow
>>123278912
The actual news here is that their translation, which they're paying well above industry average for if you go by their kickstarter plan, is shit. But if people want to focus on desu...
>>123278912
link?
http://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/11746-onomatopes-lastest-title-kyuuketsu-hime-no-libra-is-coming-to-steam/
>>123278912
The quality of discussion on that board and this general are pretty much the same. Seriously, if the exact same shit was posted in /vn/ I wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Isn't there supposed to be a cg of me pinning a guy with a hawaiian shirt? There is on the steam page with this exact line
>>123279620
>>123280630
Did you get the steam version?
>>123280630
the all ages version has some different cgs
>>123280691
No I torrented it from here http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=1809410 since it's supposed to be the h version but with better translation
so it's missing the extra cg?
>>123279253
>The actual news here is that their translation, which they're paying well above industry average for if you go by their kickstarter plan, is shit.
Seems like it. "です" is basic grammar used to make context present tense. People would pick up on it being used as a cutesy character trait without having it awkwardly spelled out for them.
Confirmed to be a shit translation before the Kickstarter even starts. Doomed to fail at this point.
Is this desu Libra game good? Seems to be an extremely new release and doesn't even have game length on vndb. First time I see something being translated so quickly after release
>>123278912
~desu
>>123281537
>>123280458
Pretty sure half the people here are Fuwa regulars.
4chan, where every other community is criticized and everyone suspected of being from them even though it doesn't matter at fucking all in the end
>>123283082
Shut up, Meg.
>>123283082
>4chan, where every other community is criticized for things we do ourselves
fixed
>>123283931
>and taking credit for doing it in the first place
Mothshiro
>>123283082
Hello Reddit!
>>123284863
Forgot pic
>>123285057
>>123284863
a shit
>>123285057
Monshiro's voice actor is great.
>>123285057
what's with japs and head patting?
>>123286384
>dem fingers
>>123285579
Her laugh an her 'humu' is fucking perfect. I wished her route was longer.
>>123286384
>dem fingers
>>123286384
>dem fingers
>>123286384
It's an affectionate gesture. It's not even a Jap thing. It's just a general "good job" thing. Usually done to children and people equal to children, mind you.
>>123286384
>dem fingers
>>123286384
>dem fingers
>>123286384
>dem fingers
>>123286384
>tfw one of the only decent cg of best girl has fingers as fucked up as clannad's heads.
>mfwdem fingers
>>123286762
I guess it's just a less popular gesture over here. not something I ever really see or hear about being done.
>>123287082
Artist is trash.
>>123287564
still better than you
>>123287694
Good thing it's not my job to be an Artist, I can still critique that dudes shit Art.
>>123288137
I'm sure your opinion means the world to him.
Anyway, is this english patch for eiyuu legit?
>>123288410
Of course it does.
No.
Furi Furi
Post what VN you're reading
>>123290175
I would but then all the EOP whiners would start spamming "why are you posting something only you can read" again.
>>123290454
Be bold
>>123290454
why are you reading something only you can read?
>>123290175
>>123290175
Chinese is a weird sounding language. Everyone sounds vaguely depressed.
>>123290661
w-what game is this?
>>123291202
Majikoi S.
>>123290675
I don't know, man. Jackie Chan didn't really seem too depressed in all those old movies I watched.
>>123291892
Haha, shit, I was thinking the same thing. Police Story, specifically.
>>123290175
>tfw you will never have a collection such as this
http://imgur.com/a/3DS8r
>>123291892
Guess it's just the voice actors in this, then. It's really weird. All except 1 character sounds really deflated. I guess they're either new actors or this is how children in china act.
Also this VN sucks.
>>123292120
Probably not no. Very few titles are things i want to physical own.
>>123292120
>that girl on last pic
I know this artist.
>>123292120
>wasting money on weebshitI wish I had a high paying job. I'm honestly jealous.
>>123292238
You should watch Drunken Master II. It's awesome.
>>123292313
Everyone who jacks off knows the artist. You're nothing special.
>>123292120
I can't have this shit on my room or else it will be a fucking social suicide
Fuck being social, I want to live the NEET life
>>123292531
So be a neet. Nothing's stopping you if that's what you really want.
>>123292531
I'm a neet and it's really not that great.
but then where will you get your funds? neetbux?
>>123292120
My first ever weeb thing I'm going to buy in December is going to be this http://www.amazon.com/KIZUMONOGATARI-Wound-Tale-NISIOISIN/dp/1941220975
I like it because it looks kind of classy and it's more fun to read something like this physically. Also has the advantage of only being a single volume, whereas most manga/LN have dozens and that gets really expensive / takes up a lot of space.
Don't think I'll ever buy a VN / game though, since it literally feels the same as torrenting it.
>>123292665
As a neet: You are fucking delusional. This is a god-damn paradise. No stress - wake up, 4chan, read VNs, eat, masturbate, sleep. Fully content. No dealing with rude people, no spending hours at a stressful job, no homework/projects... just peace and hobbies.
>>123292790
As another neet there's plenty of stress to it.
>>123292120
What are those books next to Hakomari?
>>123293089
That depends on, I suppose, whether or not you're leeching off your parents, and whether or not your parents are "cool with it" so to speak. Mine are, so no stress.
>>123292120
>How many government watch lists are you on?
>>123293089
This.
First off, I have no insurance. I also have no money to buy the things I want. My laptop is breaking and needs replacement soon, and I also want an external HD to store my downloads.
If you ever had money before and run out then you're going to be stressed so don't tell me it's stress free.
>>123293350
That's financial stress, not really NEET stress so to speak
>>123293350
You could just learn Japanese and move into the /jp/ mansion.
>>123293520
But that's the most important part. If people had unlimited money, there would be a lot more NEETs.
>>123293189
I leech from the government, and am pretty much enjoy my time for the most part but I still have to stress about paying bills, and most other uncertainties to life. Welfare could dry up tomorrow and I'd be shit outta luck. Even in your situation your parents eventually won't be able to work, and an example I've seen first hand they may have to sell their house and the child, ie you, would be homeless.
Like being a neet is relatively stress free but uncertainty and how fragile our existence actually is in the wake of it.
>>123293606
The difference being NEET specfically refers to people not in the labour force, i.e. not even seeking work, so mixing in financials with it is kind of misleading. Like, EVERYONE is hits by financial problems, it's a universal problem of a capitalistic world, it's not a NEET problem specifically. It's like saying "I'm a NEET and it sucks because my legs hurt from lack of exercise". It's just not very focused and relevant.
>>123293821
>and an example I've seen first hand they may have to sell their house and the child, ie you, would be homeless.
I'm prepared to die, I will just enjoy my time here while it lasts.
>>123293871
You are poor because you're a NEET. Your body is shit because you're a NEET. These are all directly tied to being a NEET. Yes, these aren't issues unique to being a NEET, but because they can be caused by being a NEET they're still part of the stresses of being one.
>>123293871
You don't have to be in labour to get money. Autismbux, welfare etc. And there's a difference between "I can only buy myself something if I skip food for a week" and "Shit this 30 room villa is drilling a hole in my bank account, I should downgrade to one with 29 rooms". Obviously the former is more stressing.
>>123293871
It's a universal problem not specific to just capitalism.
>>123294204
Not all countries have neetbux.
